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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob

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Speaker 2: Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and we're back with

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Speaker 2: our fourth Godzilla movie here on Weird House Cinema. And man,

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Speaker 2: it's an entry that introduces one of the King of

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Speaker 2: Monsters greatest rivals, Mecha Godzilla, who also happens to be

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Speaker 2: one of the most iconic mechs of all time. I

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Speaker 2: think it's pretty safe to say, yes, we're talking about

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four's Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla.

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Speaker 3: What technically constitutes a mech? What makes a mech different

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Speaker 3: than a robot just size is, if it's a big

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Speaker 3: enough robot, is it a mech?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're probably going to summon some some pedanic corrections here,

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Speaker 2: which we invite from mech fans. My understanding, which might

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Speaker 2: be flawed, is that a robot is entirely like off

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Speaker 2: Where's a mech? I think more tip typically has someone

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Speaker 2: inside it controlling it, or you might apply some sort

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Speaker 2: of like a remote control scenario. I realized that with

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Speaker 2: Mecha Godzilla. The lines are maybe a little blurred here,

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Speaker 2: and by some people's definition, Mega Godzilla might not be

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Speaker 2: a pure mech, but I also don't think mecha Godzilla

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Speaker 3: By this distinction, Robot Jocks is actually despite the title

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Speaker 3: about mechs.

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Speaker 2: I think so yeah, I think Robot Jocks is definitely

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Speaker 2: mechs mechs and maybe text mex right, because there's some

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Speaker 2: there is a character named text yeah yeah, whereas yeah

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Speaker 2: Mecha god I don't know. At the end of the day, though,

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Speaker 2: Mecha Godzilla is just mecha Godzilla, like it is what

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Speaker 2: it is, and it towers over so many things, like

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Speaker 2: you know, we just have to respect the mecha mecha

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Speaker 2: g here and h But certainly, folks out there, if

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Speaker 2: you have because people have had obviously decades to argue

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Speaker 2: about this, If you have thoughts on what exactly Mecca

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Speaker 2: Godzilla is and how we should classify it, well write

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Speaker 2: in now.

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Speaker 3: One quick note that's unrelated to the content of today's episode.

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Speaker 3: I just had to say something about it because I've

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Speaker 3: noticed this. Since we're on video, we don't coordinate ahead

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Speaker 3: of time about what we're wearing. So the last two

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Speaker 3: weird house cinemas. I think we ended up wearing black

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Speaker 3: T shirts. We're not doing that on purpose, We're not

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Speaker 3: color coordinating, but I feel like Rob, this is an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: at least for the people watching on video. What's on

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Speaker 3: your T shirt? Show it off?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's one of my many bar kindred shirts. Here

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Speaker 2: my favorite vegan restaurant, slash bar in San Diego. Oh.

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Speaker 3: Nice, I've just got a hammer horror T shirt.

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Speaker 2: Nice. Nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not doing that on purpose, but I guess maybe

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Speaker 3: we both have a lot of black T shirts that

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Speaker 3: come out for the movie days.

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Speaker 2: A lot of black T shirts. Yeah, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: try and spice it up and get some colored T shirts,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of black T shirts in the drawer.

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Speaker 3: So Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla is I think one of

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Speaker 3: the most fun Godzilla movies of the early films. When

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Speaker 3: I first saw this, I did expect a giant robot

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Speaker 3: version of Godzilla shooting missiles out of his fingers, so like,

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Speaker 3: you get what you pay for in that regard, but

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Speaker 3: I did not expect many other things about this film.

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Speaker 3: I did not expect, for example, the scene where a

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Speaker 3: Gorilla Mask is uk uking while he throws folding chairs

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Speaker 3: at our hero on a boat. This is to say,

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Speaker 3: there is much more than just a mecha Godzilla to

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Speaker 3: this mecha Godzilla movie.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. If you think that it's just going to

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Speaker 2: don't worry. There's more to it. But if you were

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Speaker 2: opposed to the idea of a mechanical Godzilla, this movie's

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Speaker 2: probably not for you, because it still very much the

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Speaker 3: So by nineteen seventy four, we're a good ways into

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Speaker 3: the Godzilla series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're almost i would say terminally into the franchise

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Speaker 2: at this point. As we'll discuss, there were concerns about

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Speaker 2: where we were with the franchise. This was the fourteenth

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Speaker 2: Shoa era that of course went fifty four through seventy five,

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Speaker 2: so as you might imagine, a number of the elements

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Speaker 2: A lot of ideas have been deployed over the.

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Speaker 3: Years, taking many different things off of the shelf and

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Speaker 2: Like alien invasion threat that had been used before. What

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Speaker 2: I think sixty four is Godora the Three Headed Monster,

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Speaker 2: as deity, that had already been deployed in sixty four

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Speaker 2: Authora versus Godzilla the fourth film, which we previously covered

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Speaker 3: Though different in the sense that in Mathra Versus Godzilla,

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Speaker 3: divine Kaiju. So Mathra is the divine Kaiju that has

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Speaker 3: to be summoned by rituals as kind of a good

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Speaker 3: god who must defend the people against the ravages of Godzilla.

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Speaker 3: By this movie, Godzilla is firmly.

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Speaker 2: A good guy, absolutely and had been for a while,

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Speaker 2: had certainly had kaiju triple threat battles before, so Godora

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Speaker 2: Both of these film featured team ups and multi monster battles.

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Speaker 2: Battle Royals if you will, and then Yeah, Godzilla as

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Speaker 2: since the second film, fifty five's Godzilla Race Again. Yeah, but,

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Speaker 2: as the title suggests, Godzilla versus Mega Godzilla is the

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Speaker 2: on the growing mech and giant robot craze in Japan

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Speaker 2: at the time. However, it's worth pointing out that, you know,

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Speaker 2: we certainly had giant robot films before Godzilla. Original Godzilla

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Speaker 2: director Ishruhanda's nineteen fifty seven film The Mysterians is a

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Speaker 2: great early example of a giant robot in a Japanese film.

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Speaker 3: Right, But that's not a Godzilla movie. That's just a

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Speaker 2: Right now, Technically, Godzilla teamed up with a robot jet

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Speaker 2: And then some of you might be aware of mechany Kong,

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Speaker 2: the mechanical like essentially what Mega Godzilla is to Godzilla.

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Speaker 2: Mechanic Kong is to King Kong, and the Canny Kong

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just find out there was a King Kong

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and sadly though, to my as far as I'm aware,

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Speaker 2: Kong and Godzilla versus McCanny Kong and Mecca Godzilla. If

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Speaker 2: I can seek it out immediately.

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Speaker 3: That would be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Also, I think this is the first Godzilla film to

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Speaker 2: involve Interpol. Generally, I would say giant monsters trying to

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Speaker 3: What is going on with Interpol. In this movie, Interpol

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think a part of it comes

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Speaker 2: Any good giant monster film has to be some sort

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Speaker 2: Oh, and it does a pretty good job with that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't make the super crime connection, but you're right.

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Speaker 3: The Interpol agent who is revealed later in the film

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Speaker 3: He would like he looks like a character from that movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He just wandered in and and and his detached

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Speaker 2: all right, what's he gonna do? Is he gonna jump

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Speaker 3: It's kind of juggling a few too many characters, I think,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but it is. The human plot is not bad.

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Speaker 3: Godzilla excellent. Actually, I have not seen that one.

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Speaker 2: So Honda comes out of retirement to direct that one.

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Speaker 2: So into the Showa era, so it's an important one.

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Speaker 3: I'm licking my chops, but I thought it might be

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Speaker 3: by the journalist and author Steve Rifle, that are included

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Speaker 3: in the Godzilla Showa era film's collection from Criterion. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll come back to that release here in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But Steve Rifle has written multiple books about the Godzilla franchise,

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Speaker 2: So if you want to dive deep, have some maybe

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Speaker 3: So the immediate previous Godzilla film, Godzilla versus Megalon from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. I don't really have an elevator

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Speaker 2: I have not been myself yet. All right, if you

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Speaker 2: that Criterion Collection book set Godzilla the Shoa Era Films

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Speaker 2: on Blu Ray. It's a little bit pricey if you

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Speaker 2: at Criterion Channel currently offers this among many other Godzilla films.

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Speaker 2: and I will agree with you once more. We do

433
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: have I think too many human characters. I feel like,

434
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: why do we have two professors when we could have one?

435
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: Or they were like no, no, no professor could have

436
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: an expertise in both physics and archaeology. I think they

437
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: could for a Godzilla film, just to move things along.

438
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: I don't think we need two professors. I don't think

439
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: we need the professor's daughter. I don't think we need

440
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: the second Interpol agent.

441
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah. A lot of moving pieces here,

442
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: but at any rate, let's start at the top. The

443
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 2: director and one of the writers on this one is

444
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: Yun Fukuda, who lived nineteen twenty three through the year

445
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: two thousand, Japanese director, best known for his work for Toho,

446
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: and especially in the Godzilla franchise, of which he directed

447
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: five Ibirajara the Deep from sixty six, Son of Godzilla,

448
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: sixty seven, Godzilla Versus Gigan seventy two, Godzilla Versus Megalon

449
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: from seventy three, and of course Today's movie, his last

450
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: in the franchise. He also directed seventy seven's The War

451
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: in Space, but otherwise seem to have directed a lot

452
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: of espionage and comedy films, kind of like groovy spy pictures,

453
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: and these seem to have been his preference in comparison

454
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: to the Kaiju movies, films such as the esp espionage

455
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: thriller sp In nineteen seventy four.

456
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, esp and spy in the same word.

457
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like esp spy. Yeah. So it's not like

458
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: it's not like he was later trashing the Godzilla films,

459
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: but I think late later on people interviewed him and

460
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: he was like, I don't you know, He's like, I

461
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: don't really like to look back on those so much,

462
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: or maybe he had mixed feelings about his time with

463
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: the Godzilla films but still appreciated that people still love them.

464
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: Well, you can feel his love for funky spy subject

465
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 3: matter in this movie because it's half of what the

466
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: movie is is spy stuff.

467
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there are three other credited writers. I'll

468
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: try and roll through them pretty quickly. Here we have

469
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: Misami of Fukushima nineteen twenty nine through nineteen seventy six,

470
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: Japanese sci fi author who was known as the Demon

471
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: of SF and apparently played a big role in popularizing

472
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: science fiction in Japan and translated many popular names such

473
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: as Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clark, so forth into Japanese,

474
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: and he also wrote various works of short fiction. Shinichi

475
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: Sekizawa nineteen twenty through nineteen ninety two a frequent Godzilla scribe,

476
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: beginning with sixty two's King Kong Versus Godzilla, and this

477
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: author's Godzola credit stretch from there to nineteen eighty nine's

478
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: Godzilla versus Bayolante story credit there. And then we have

479
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: Hiro Yasu Yamaura born nineteen thirty eight, Japanese screenwriter who

480
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: worked on various sci fi and kaju projects, with this

481
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: being the biggest. All right, now let's get into we

482
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: have factions at play here. Let's start with the humans.

483
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: We have basically, our star is our human star is

484
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: Masahaki Daimon, playing the character Kasuke Shimuzu. He was born

485
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: nineteen forty nine Japanese actor. Best known for this film,

486
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: but his credits also include seventy three's Lady Snowblood that's

487
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: a cult favorite Ladies Samurai movie, and the TV series

488
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: Ultraman eighty. I this guy does, he does a fine job.

489
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to be mean here, but he he

490
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: kind of mugs like a grumpy toddler the entire film,

491
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: and he's kind of just sort of your cookie cutter,

492
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: good guy. I don't know, I he bored me a

493
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: little bit.

494
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: He is surprisingly action oriented, given that his character is

495
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: not supposed to be some kind of secret agent or whatever,

496
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: and yet he is always like bristling for a fight

497
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 3: and ready to you know, ready to tackle the bad guys.

498
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 3: So he he comes off like he's supposed to be

499
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: just a tough guy. He's a tough, tough guy.

500
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when he's actually in action, it is entertaining.

501
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: I really like the sort of spy fisticuffs and like

502
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: and crime sequences. Yeah. And so when it's action oriented, yeah,

503
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: he's great. But the rest of the time, there's a

504
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: lot of him sort of like reacting to things, and

505
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: I just don't get a strong sense of reaction from

506
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: this guy.

507
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: You can. He feels like the kind of character who

508
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: makes a tough, frownie face when he's getting his picture taken. Yeah,

509
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: and people are like, come on, you can smile.

510
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's tough because we have some other character

511
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: actors in this film that are far more charismatic.

512
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, this character in the movie does have a brother

513
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: who is less grim than case A k.

514
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has his more handsome brother. Is the character

515
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: Masahiko Shimuzu played by Kazuya Aoyama born nineteen fifty one,

516
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Japanese pop musician turned actor turned Seaweed corporate ceo apparently

517
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: as a family business. Wow, So he didn't actually have

518
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: that many acting credits. I think he was just you know,

519
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: getting out there and exploring his creative side before stepping

520
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: up and being the seaweed corporate overlord that he was

521
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: born to be.

522
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: Does he specialize in a particular kind of seaweed or

523
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: is it? Is it like I think it's kombu or

524
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: I don't knowri or.

525
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: I didn't have the fortitude to really research the business

526
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: that much. I was just like, okay, seaweed, all right, good,

527
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: good going.

528
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: It's an important business, it is. I love some seaweed products.

529
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Yeah that's where he That's where

530
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: the true colling was. He's out there doing good.

531
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: Work supply us with our precious MSG.

532
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: Yes, okay. We also, if you've seen enough God's Ola movies,

533
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: you might ask be asking, well, where's our photojournalist? Well,

534
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: we have an archaeologist who is sometimes mistaken for photo

535
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: journalists and basically fills the same the same character profile.

536
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

537
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the character Seiko Kanda Gosuku played by

538
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: Raiko Tajimia, and she was born in nineteen forty nine

539
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: Japanese actress who I think she did other live action

540
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: acting work, but she also did a great deal of

541
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 2: voice work in anime, so her other credits include and

542
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: this is voice work, I believe seventy nine The Roses

543
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: of Versailles. All right, now, let's get instant to some

544
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: people that or maybe a little more recognizable and also,

545
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: for my money anyway, more charismatic and entertaining on the screen.

546
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: The first of two professors we have Professor Miya Yajima.

547
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: He's a physicist and he was played by Akahiko Herrada.

548
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: Lived nineteen twenty seven through nineteen eighty four. Hirata was

549
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: a Godzilla in Toho veteran at this point, having appeared

550
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: in the original nineteen fifty four Godzilla film. He's the

551
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: guy with the ipatch in that.

552
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: He's the important scientist in the first one who comes

553
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: up with the oxygen bomb, who sacrifices himself.

554
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, so key role in that. But after that

555
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: he was in various other related films. He was in

556
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: fifty six is Rodin. He was in The Mysterians, sixty

557
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: one's Mathra, sixty two's King cong Versus Godzilla, sixty three's Atragon,

558
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: which we've watched on the show. Sixt Godora, the Three

559
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: Headed Monster, Ibira, Horror of the Deep. Let's see Son

560
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: of Godzilla, and then he's also in the follow up

561
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: to this film, Terror of Mecha Godzilla, which would prove

562
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: his last Sozilla film before his death in eighty four.

563
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: So he's a great presence in this film.

564
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: His character has one of the most hilarious Chekhov guns

565
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: in movie history. I can't wait to talk about that.

566
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: He does. He does? Yeah, all right, there is another professor.

567
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: We also have Professor Wagura. He's an archaeologist, a various

568
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: deemed archaeologist, played by Hiroshi Kozumi. He was also a

569
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Godzilla and Toho veteran at this point. In fact, he

570
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: played professors in both sixty four's mathra Versus Godzilla and

571
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: Godora the Three Headed Monster.

572
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: This character is absolutely useless in a flight.

573
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, but now we're getting to get into

574
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: a really cool character and actor here. Let's say I

575
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: don't want to spoil who he is, We'll just say

576
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: he's the guy with sunglasses.

577
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: At this point, I'm gonna in our early version of

578
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: the plot summary, I'm going to be calling him the

579
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: rock and roll spy.

580
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, rock and roll spy. Here is played by Shin

581
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Kasheita born in nineteen thirty nine. Died in nineteen eighty two.

582
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: He just oozed as cool for much of the film

583
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: and walks a nice morally ambiguous line where again we're

584
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: asking ourselves to is he a hero? Is he a villain?

585
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: Is he with the aliens? Is he with the humans?

586
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: When's he going to do something? I can't wait?

587
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: Is he going to keep wearing those sunglasses no matter

588
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: how dark the environment.

589
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: Is, going into actual cave in cave, still.

590
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: Wearing in an unlit cave with aviators on.

591
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: That's how cool he is. Yeah, he's not going to

592
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: take those off, So.

593
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: I mean that must be some hangover easily.

594
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: With Well, you might think he's a vampire, and based

595
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: on some of his other credits, you might be right.

596
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 2: Very distinctive looking character actor here that earned him a place,

597
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: an endearing place in Japanese Cinnamon TV coming off stage work.

598
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: He had the stage background, very well regarded actor whose

599
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: short career leaves us wondering, like, what else where else

600
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: we might we might have seen him if he had

601
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: lived longer. We've actually covered a Kashida film before because

602
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: he played one of the masters of death in nineteen

603
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: eighties Showgun Assassin. Oh, so I believe he was the

604
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: one with the iron fist weapon. Each had like a

605
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: signature weapon that they used.

606
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 3: Were these the guys with the big straw hats that

607
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: come down way over their heads and kind of.

608
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: Swoop out exactly? Yeah. These were in the original nineteen

609
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: seventy two Lone Wolf and Cub Baby cart at the

610
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: River Styx, which was one of the two films incorporated

611
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: into Showgun Assassin. These are the Hidari brothers, and so yeah,

612
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: he's one of the Hidari brothers that ended up being

613
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: called Masters of Death that of course end up inspiring

614
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: the three storms in Big Trouble, Little China. Yeah. He

615
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: also appeared in seventy two's Lone Wolf and Cub Baby

616
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Cart in Peril in a different role. And he appears

617
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: in two films in the nineteen seventies Toho Dracula trilogy,

618
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: seventy one's Lake of Dracula and seventy four is Evil

619
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: of Dracula. I believe he plays the vampire in both

620
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: of them. These have been on my list for a while,

621
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: but I haven't checked one out. But just visually, I

622
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: would say that Kashita makes for a great Dracula or

623
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: a great vampire.

624
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at the screenshots you got here. I

625
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: want to see it now.

626
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and his other credits include Lady Snowblood two Love

627
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: Song of Vengeance from seventy four, among other pictures. So yeah,

628
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: really cool actor cool. All right, let's talk briefly about

629
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: the alien faction here. There is an alien supreme leader

630
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: by the name of Kurnuma, and he is played by

631
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: Goro Mutsumi, who of nineteen thirty four through twenty twenty

632
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: one Japanese actor whose other credits include sixty six is War,

633
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: The Gargantua's nineteen seventy Stray Cat Rock, Delinquent Girl Boss

634
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: said to be a fun film, and he also pops

635
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: up Lone Wolf and Cub nineteen seventy four's White Heaven

636
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: and Hell. He's also in the War in Space and

637
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: returned in Terror of Mecca Godzilla the idea I think

638
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: playing a different role. This guy's pretty terrific. It plays

639
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: the leader of the alien invasion from black Hole Planet

640
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: three like a mob boss with a cigar, or like

641
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: a in at times, also like a Bond villain, you know,

642
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: gloating and boasting about his plans.

643
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: The aliens here feel like a mafia which is an

644
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: interesting choice.

645
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why Interpol was involved. I guess, like

646
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: the alien invasion. Yes, they have a giant robot to

647
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: destroy a whole cities and take out our natural kaiju

648
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: protection system. But they are they're essentially a criminal organization

649
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: that has to be rooted out at that level.

650
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's true they could not have built the

651
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: base that they did without doing some smuggling, and that's

652
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: interpolse Turf.

653
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was discuss they built it in Mount Fuji,

654
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: which is just fascinating to think about.

655
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: Did they I thought was in Okinawa because don't we

656
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: see don't we see the characters like running out of

657
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: the base onto the beach in Okinawa?

658
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: Hmmm?

659
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: Oh man. No, matter what the answer to this question,

660
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: I would say there is definitely some geographic contraction taking

661
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: place in the film. We do see Godzilla I think,

662
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: get launched out of Mount Fuji at some point.

663
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe I'm right on this. I think Mega

664
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Godzilla appears from Mount Fuji, but describe but disguised of

665
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: course as Godzilla, as we'll discuss. Yeah, but it gets

666
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: complicated too because there's the Black the Black Mountain that

667
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: is kind of like the black Mount Fuji that is

668
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: a symbol in the clouds of the coming prophesized monster invasion.

669
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: So there's some interesting, maybe not even fully formed Mount

670
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: Fuji iconography going on in this movie.

671
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: Yes, there is a vision of black clouds above the

672
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: white clouds, and that looks like Mount Fuji. You're correct

673
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: that Godzilla is well Mecca. Godzilla disguised as Godzilla is

674
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: launched out of Mount Fuji. But then I think, I.

675
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: Mean, there's the bass. The base you're right might be

676
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: in a different mountain.

677
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: I mean, you could be right, But then I don't

678
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: understand how the characters who like run out of the

679
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: base are in this Like they get to the base

680
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: from the cave in Okinawa.

681
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: Remember, Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right, because there's

682
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: a Yeah, there's like a hidden button that they push. Okay,

683
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: so I think you're correct on the location of the base.

684
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: It's I think it is fast and loose with where

685
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: the places are.

686
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Oh we also have an alien henchman.

687
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: That's pretty fun. Digo Kusano, who lived nineteen thirty nine

688
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: through nineteen ninety one, plays this alien agent Number one,

689
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: and his credits include a couple of Lone Wolf and

690
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: Cup movies. This guy has great minion energy, clearly. Okay,

691
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: we also have the Okinawans. We have two main Okinawans.

692
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: Of note. We have this character Nami a Kunagami. She

693
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: is the Azumi Royal Family princess and she is played

694
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 2: by Bell Bello Lynn born nineteen fifty one, South Korean

695
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: born singer, one of only four film credits. Her song

696
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: in this film was released as a single by Toho Record,

697
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: so you can look it up on discogs.

698
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: Yes, there is a musical number, a full song performed

699
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: in Godzilla Versus Meca Godzilla.

700
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Yes. And then there's also this old man. He's the

701
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Azuomi Royal Family high priest and I think he's like

702
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: your grandfather too, right, Yes, or is referred to as grandfather,

703
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: and he is played by Maseo Imafuku. Lived nineteen twenty

704
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: one through twenty fifteen. He was only fifty three at

705
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: the time. I kind of I don't know that I've

706
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: seen other films with him, but you get the impression

707
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: that this is maybe one of those actors who made

708
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: a lifelong career of playing old men, you know, with

709
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: some help from makeup, but His other credits include sixty

710
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: eight's Kill and seventy one's Demons.

711
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: Think to notice if his long white beard was stuck on,

712
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: but it may well have been.

713
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very much that. Yeah, he's a lot of fun.

714
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, it may have been a stuck on beard. Yeah,

715
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: all right, And then we have the monsters. We have

716
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: to give credit to the people in the monster suits.

717
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: They're doing a lot of the heavy lifting here playing Godzilla.

718
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: We have Isao Zushi age unknown as far as I

719
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: could tell now, retire Japanese monster suit performer here in

720
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: his only performance as the King of Monsters. Original Godzilla

721
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: actor Hero Nakajima had retired by this point. I think

722
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: it's seventy two. Zushi otherwise worked in Tokosatsu Kaju TV programs. Okay,

723
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: playing Mega Godzilla. We have Kasunari Mori, also unsure on

724
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: this actor's age, Japanese suit actor best known for his

725
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: performance as Mega Godzilla in this film and its follow up,

726
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 2: seventy five's ter of Mega Godzilla, otherwise worked in TV

727
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: and then playing King Caesar and and Giris. We have

728
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: Kenichi Kasumi born nineteen fifty, Japanese actor who started out

729
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: in these varias Tokusatsu you know monster suit pictures, wearing

730
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: the monster suits on TV shows such as seventy two's

731
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: Red Man and Go god Man, possibly Mirror Man as well,

732
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: But by the late nineteen seventies he slouched off the

733
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 2: chrysalis of the Kaiju suit to assume the birthday suit

734
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: of numerous Japanese erotic and sexploitation Pink films, apparently appearing

735
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: in a variety that included both horror and LGBTQ themed pictures.

736
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: He also has writing credits on eleven Pink films active

737
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: through about twenty sixteen. Interesting Yeah, And then finally the score.

738
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: This is the score by Masaru Saito nineteen twenty eight

739
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: through nineteen ninety nine, Japanese composer who also worked on

740
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: numerous Kurosawa films, including Throne of Blood, as well as

741
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: several Godzilla films. Joe, you might have more to say

742
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: about this than Mason Ship. You know the gear in

743
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: the makings of music more than I do. But there's

744
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: a particular guitar sound that pops up throughout this picture

745
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: that I think is fuzz tone guitar distortion, And I

746
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: pretty much only know this because of time of the apes.

747
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: A film cut of the Japanese TV series Saru no

748
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: Gunden that was, you know, featured on MST three k it.

749
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: It has a similar sound, different composer, but it provoked

750
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: a Joel MST three k riff that says they've entered

751
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: the valley of the fuzz tone guitar, and that always

752
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: stuck with me, even though I know really have never

753
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't have a clear idea of what a fuzz

754
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: tone guitar is, but I recognize the sound.

755
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: Well, you're probably right. I can't recall, just sitting here

756
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: the moment in the soundtrack that you're thinking of, so

757
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but you're

758
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: probably correct. Fuzz is one of the main distortion effects

759
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: that people apply to guitars, you know, the standard ones.

760
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: People think of a like overdrive distortion and then fuzz

761
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: and I think, yeah, they're probably going fuzzy here for

762
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: a very boxy, squared off sound.

763
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so that's us a rundown of the

764
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: people and some of the factions here. Okay, let's get

765
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: into the plot of this bad boy all right.

766
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 3: Well, so you get a bit of pre credit stuff

767
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the movie with these cool like

768
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: hollow drums and jazzy horns, and then the action opens

769
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: with a pan through a dark, spooky landscape with big

770
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: crags of volcanic rock. Those are sticking up everywhere, and

771
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: then from a hollow in the earth, we catch a

772
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 3: glimpse of something moving. It is a big thorny plate,

773
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: and then we see that that plate is the back

774
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: of a monster that begins to trundle about through the

775
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: rock field, and then we can see it's Angiras. This

776
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: is the Toho kaiju that is kind of based on

777
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: a type of dinosaur called the ankylosaurus. Right, it's not

778
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: exactly an ankylosaurus, but it's pretty close to that.

779
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: And then if you're thinking about it just in terms

780
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: of kaiju movies, like this is a crawling suit. There's

781
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: a dude in there on all fours crawling around.

782
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. We may have mentioned this earlier, but

783
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: Angiras was actually the first monster Godzilla ever fought. That's

784
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: kind of weird to think about. You might think of

785
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: like King Kong being first, but the first Godzilla movie

786
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: has no other monster. It's just Godzilla versus human ingenuity

787
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: versus science. But in the second Godzilla movie Godzilla Raids

788
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: again from nineteen fifty five, we meet this guy and

789
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: they throw down, and Giris appeared in many other movies

790
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: of the series, first as an enemy of Godzilla and

791
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: then later as an ally. By this point they're positively chummy.

792
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: I think.

793
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can imagine how this basic design was picked

794
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: for Godzilla's first enemy, though, because if you're looking at

795
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: a bunch of dinosaur like paleo art representations, you often

796
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: see a t rex, a bipedal dinosaur battling four legged dinosaurs,

797
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: often like a triceratops or something. So it made perfect sense.

798
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: It's like he should battle something on four legs.

799
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: So and gear Us lumbers over the rocks in the

800
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: twilight and then lets out this sad wail at the sky.

801
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: It's almost like he's calling to someone, a long lost friend. Maybe.

802
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: Then we see a mountain in the distance with dark

803
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: ocean waves in the foreground, and suddenly the mountain starts

804
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: exploding with sparks and lightning. A Godzilla squeel plays you

805
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: know that sound, and then title Godzilla versus Mecca. Godzilla.

806
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: Oh man, this title comes strong too. It's like the

807
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: text is just coming at you multiple times, and then

808
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: you got like the two colors looks amazing.

809
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: Then a very abrupt change of tone. Suddenly we're hearing soft,

810
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: whimsical music that's playing while we see it's playing over

811
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: pretty scenic images of historical buildings and nature scenes in Okinawa.

812
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: I assume all of the shots here are Okinawa.

813
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they filmed in Okinawa. And just a geographic

814
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: reminder for folks out there, the Okinawan Islands are a

815
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: cluster of islands making up Okinawa Prefecture, the southernmost and

816
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: westernmost prefecture of Japan. It's essentially roughly halfway between the

817
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: four main islands of Japan and Taiwan. It's a two

818
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: and a half hour to three hour flight from Tokyo.

819
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, much further south than the rest of the Japanese islands,

820
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: warmer climate. I think within Japanese culture, the sub regional

821
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 3: culture of Okinawa is considered kind of the island version

822
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: of Japanese culture. It's like tropical weather and a more

823
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: relaxed attitude I think is commonly what's thought there.

824
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and of course there's you know, a lot

825
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: of other ins and outs concerning the history of Okinawa,

826
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: some of which they actually into in this film. I

827
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: was rather surprised at yes, you know, talking about like

828
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: historic independence of these islands.

829
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. So after the credits in Okinaware, we are at

830
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: the ruins of an ancient stonecastle overlooking the coast, and

831
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 3: a priestess dressed in brightly colored ceremonial robes is in

832
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: the middle of performing a ritual song and dance in

833
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: front of a crowd. And I hope you like her

834
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: singing because again later in the movie, actually during the

835
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 3: climax of the action, everything will stop to give her

836
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: a three minute long musical number.

837
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: Gewhige I'm here for. I think that's probably what's lacking

838
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: with the more recent Godzilla films, especially the US versions.

839
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: That is true, Yeah, they could use musical numbers where

840
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: we've got to summon the monster with the sweet song.

841
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: And like monsters, they don't just want to fight all

842
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: the time. Sometimes they want a sweet song.

843
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: So visiting the area are the brothers Massahico and case K.

845
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: I think at first they're portray as being like tourists.

846
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: They're here taking pictures and watching, you know, visiting the sites.

847
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: But kese K says he is working on an upcoming expo.

848
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means, but we do see

849
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: him later at either a construction or excavation site, so

850
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: he's some kind of boss of some development.

851
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's probably much to be dissected here about

852
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: like the positioning of a like just sort of a

853
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: corporate suit as your main hero in a Japanese film

854
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: from this era, you know, like I'd have to read

855
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: up on that, But so much has been written about

856
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: Odzola films. I'm sure someone has has had a feast

857
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: of this.

858
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why Massahiko is here. Maybe he's just

859
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: visiting his brother while his brother is doing this project.

860
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's younger, maybe a little more happy

861
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 2: go lucky. Maybe he hasn't had to like settle into

862
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: like a salary man position yet.

863
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. So they're watching the performance when suddenly the priestess

864
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: stops in the middle of her dance and she gasps

865
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: and looks into the distance terrified, And then we see

866
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 3: inside her head as she has a terrible prophetic vision

867
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: and she faints. The vision is, of course, a city

868
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: under attack by a giant monster. The buildings are crumbling,

869
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: the skyline is in flames, so she collapses and the

870
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: two brothers go to her side. We learn that her

871
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: name is Nami, and her grandfather, the priest, comes running

872
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: out of the castle concerned for her. She explains what

873
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: she saw. She says a giant monster is going to

874
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: destroy the city. All who flee will be crushed under

875
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: its mighty feet. And then later the brothers are traveling

876
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: along a coastal highway together by truck and they're talking

877
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: about what happened. They mentioned that the woman and her

878
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: grandfather are descendants of the royal house of Azumi, who

879
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: once ruled Okinawa, so they're not just like you know,

880
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: performers at at a tourist festival, like they're actually the

881
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: inheritors of this great royal line. Kaisek drops Masahiko off

882
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: at a local cave so that he can go spelunking.

883
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: Masahiko explores the cave and inside he finds a weird

884
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 3: metal scale on the floor. The scale shines like the sun,

885
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: and when Massahico gets closer to it, we hear a

886
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: rapid clicking sound, a bit like radio static or like

887
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: a Geiger counter going nuts.

888
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: And this is a real cave location I didn't look

889
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: up to see where they actually filmed it if it

890
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: is indeed an Okinawan cave. But it is a real

891
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: cave and it looks really nice, nice formations.

892
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Ksek goes back to this dig site that he's

893
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: in charge of. Again, I don't know whether this is

894
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: an excavation or a construction site. Maybe they're digging a foundation,

895
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: and his workers have uncovered a different cave with a

896
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: megalithic stone frame around its entrance. Case K goes inside

897
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 3: and he finds a room with ancient paintings on the wall,

898
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 3: and there's a shrine holding a statue of a four

899
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 3: legged creature.

900
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: Yep, and as we'll learn, this as a shiza, so

901
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: the find.

902
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: Is a sensation. The dig site is flooded by reporters

903
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: who want pictures of the artifacts. Case K is joined

904
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: by a woman named Seiko, who is an archaeologist specializing

905
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: in ancient Okinawan's. She studies the artwork of the cave

906
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: and determines that the statue of the four legged beast

907
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: must be King Caesar, the guardian deity of the Azumi monarchs,

908
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: and she says that the Azumi house has a legend

909
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: quote long ago, mainlanders came here to Okinawa. They tried

910
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: to destroy the House of Azumi, but a monster appeared

911
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: gleaming like copper, to save the royals and their subjects.

912
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: Its name was King Caesar. So she takes the statue

913
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: away back to her office at the university to learn

914
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: more about it. And at her office at the university,

915
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: we see her translating. In her office, she says, a

916
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: black mountain will appear in the sky, and when it does,

917
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: but then meanwhile so that like trails off And meanwhile

918
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: we see out in the hallway a creepy guy dressed

919
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: all in black spying on her. So this movie is

920
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: going to have multiple different guys dressed in black spying

921
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 3: on our main characters. So I'm going to distinguish them

922
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: first as Mustache Spy and rock and roll. This guy

923
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: is the mustache spy. He is small framed, nervous looking,

924
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: with a thin mustache, kind of a bony face. He

925
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: peeks in through her office door while she isn't looking,

926
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: and he's about to slip inside and do something we

927
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: don't know what. We don't find out because suddenly this

928
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: spy gets spooked by a noise down the hall, and

929
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: he runs away, and then who shou'd come around the

930
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: corner but the other man in black. This is the

931
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: rock and roll spy who is bigger. He's taller, He's

932
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: got shaggy hair, aviator sunglasses, and a long black coat

933
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 3: with a big dracula collar. Once again, this guy would

934
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: fit right in in Danger Diabolic. He just he's got

935
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: that funky cool seventies look. Absolutely, this guy smokes a

936
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: lot too. He comes around the corner smoking a cigarette.

937
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: Then he swaggers down the hall and then also leans

938
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: into Seko's office and we get a close up of

939
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 3: a ring on his finger. It has a black rectangle

940
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: and the camera focuses on it like it's some kind

941
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: of device. Must be doing something. Next scene is we

942
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: have some characters on a plane to Tokyo. So on

943
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: the plane, case K and Siko happened to bump into

944
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: each other again, so they met at the dig site.

945
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 3: Now they're meeting their meeting again by accident. I noticed

946
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: this is a This is a roomy flight. People are

947
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: just walking around. The aisles look very wide. People are

948
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: freely changing seats to talk to each other.

949
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much of this is just

950
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: the this was the golden age of of sort of

951
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: a luxurious flight, or if this is the course a

952
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: fake airplane where everything's faced out a bit more for

953
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: filming purposes. But everybody's smoking too, or a lot of

954
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: people are smoking.

955
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: Yes, So Siko explains that she has deciphered the mural,

956
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: but she still doesn't understand what the statue of the

957
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: lion dog monster represents, so she's taking it to another

958
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: professor named Wagura for help, and their conversation is interrupted

959
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: by the rock and roll spy who's also on the plane.

960
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: He's sitting on the road directly in front of them,

961
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 3: chain smoking cigarettes, and he winds up and says, oh,

962
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: you know, professor Wagura, he's the famous archaeologist, isn't he.

963
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: And when they ask who he is, he claims to

964
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: be a freelance reporter, and then he laughs at himself,

965
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: almost like a freelance reporter. That's a good one. So

966
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: they're they're talking there, and then suddenly everybody on the

967
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: plane starts freaking out and pointing out the windows. We

968
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 3: look out the windows too, and we see a giant

969
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 3: black cloud shaped like a pyramid hovering in the air

970
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: and case K says, it looks like a black mount Fuji.

971
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 2: Which again is kind of neat, you know, the Mount

972
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: Fuji being this, you know, an important symbol of Japan,

973
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: and this cloud being like a black, black evil inversion

974
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: of it. And of course that's the whole dichotomy between

975
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: Godzill and Mecha Godzilla as well.

976
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 3: Right totally. Oh, and here we get finally the first recitation,

977
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: full recitation of the words from the mural, because Siko

978
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: repeats them. She says, when the black mountain rises above

979
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 3: the clouds, a great monster will come forth and destroy

980
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 3: the world. But it doesn't stop there. There's a second half.

981
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: It says, but when the red moon sets and the

982
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 3: sun rises in the west, two monsters will join forces

983
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: to save the world. Then also, once they get to Tokyo,

984
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: Kisek and Seko share a taxi and so they're taking

985
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: a taxi from the airport and then it stops at

986
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: the professor's house. Seiko gets out because this is where

987
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: she's going to talk to Professor Wagura. Kaise K gets

988
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: out too and goes up to the door, and it

989
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: turns out he this professor is kase K's uncle, so

990
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 3: he didn't say anything about it because he was quote

991
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: having a bit of fun. Okay, so this is like

992
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: a theme or running theme. This guy loves to deceive

993
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: Saiko the archaeologist.

994
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, good natured deception.

995
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: Yes, so they are on. They're now on the quest

996
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: to understand the statue. But they're they're not the only

997
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: ones in research mode. Kese K's brother Masahiko is also

998
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: trying to figure something out. He is visiting the laboratory

999
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: of the great scientist Professor Miyajima to understand the scale

1000
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: of metal that he found in the cave in Okinawa.

1001
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: Professor Miyajima takes a look at this piece of metal

1002
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: and he concludes space titanium.

1003
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: I love this good, especially because Masahiko then follows up with, like,

1004
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: you mean titanium that comes from space, and the professor

1005
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: just kind of grunts. It might be a very grunty high,

1006
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: but it still made me laugh.

1007
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, exactly, titanium from space. In this scene, we

1008
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: get some charming little effect. There are some lasers in

1009
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: the lab and I think they're represented as red ink

1010
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: drawings on the film cells. We also meet Professor Miyajima's

1011
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: adult daughter, Ikuko, who will of course be coming along

1012
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 3: for subsequent monster related advance.

1013
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because why not.

1014
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: It does not seem like a very necessary or consequential

1015
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: character to me. Ye, suddenly there is an earthquake, and

1016
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: I thought this was funny. The ground starts shaking, and

1017
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: of course everybody, the three characters are in the room,

1018
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: and everybody grabs hold of something to study themselves. But

1019
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: one of them grabs hold of the microscope.

1020
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Unless that that the microscope is like bolted to

1021
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: the floor, you're not really going to get much out

1022
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: of that.

1023
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an earthquake in my kitchen, and I grabbed

1024
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: the blender, and we find out that earthquakes keep happening.

1025
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: The news reports, we actually hear them talking on the radio.

1026
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: The news reports say that nobody knows what's causing the earthquakes,

1027
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: but quote some say a huge creature is burrowing underground.

1028
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: Perfectly reasonable in the Godzilla film universe, because again, this

1029
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 2: has happened like pretty much every year for over a decade.

1030
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, it's seasonal, seasonal Kaiju attack.

1031
00:56:59,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1032
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: So that night, Seiko and kse K's uncle are studying

1033
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: the inscriptions on the statue while Ksek is unpacking his things,

1034
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: and suddenly there is an attack at the house. The

1035
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: mustache spy breaks in through the window and he's pointing

1036
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: a pistol with the silencer at the two professors. He

1037
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: demands the statue at once. They do not hand it over,

1038
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 3: so he tries to take it by force, but then

1039
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: kse K intervenes, so he bursts into the room. He

1040
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: disarms the spy and they're they're wrestling on the ground,

1041
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 3: and uh, and it's a tough fight, like the spy

1042
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: at various points is like, you know, he gets it,

1043
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: gets him on by the neck and there it's it's

1044
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: looking dangerous.

1045
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1046
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: Case K is really a man of action in this movie.

1047
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 3: The first time I was watching it, I was trying

1048
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: to remember what his job was and I didn't remember.

1049
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 3: They said he was running an expo, So I was thinking,

1050
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: is he supposed to be a secret agent or something.

1051
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: It's like a James Bond type job. But I don't

1052
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: think so. It just seems like, for whatever reason, he

1053
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: is completely fearless and an expert hand to hand combat.

1054
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah, But I will again

1055
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: say that in these moments with this kind of like

1056
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: close knit spy crime action. I feel like that it's

1057
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 2: very enjoyable. I think the movie does a good job

1058
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: with it, and we also at times get some like

1059
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: frantic camera work to sort of heighten the sense of

1060
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: like confusion and action. Yeah.

1061
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: I mentioned this earlier, but in this scene, case K's

1062
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: uncle is absolutely useless, Like they're fighting and the gun

1063
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: is on the floor. Case K is fighting for his

1064
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: life and the uncle just stands there watching like, oh,

1065
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: what do I do?

1066
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: Probably one of the more realistic moments, maybe, yeah, as

1067
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: opposed to your random salary man having this like background

1068
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: and action. You know, yeah, most of us would probably

1069
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: be paralyzed with fear in this scenario.

1070
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 3: But try to remember, two against one is good odds.

1071
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: If somebody is viciously attacking your friend, go and grab them,

1072
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: try to help your friend. Y.

1073
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: Yes, do the maths professor do the Yeah.

1074
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: So eventually he does pick up the gun, but then

1075
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: he still doesn't intervene to help in any way way.

1076
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: The fight comes to a draw and the spy jumps

1077
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: out the window to escape, So Ksek runs out after

1078
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: the spy into the dark, but cannot find where he went. However,

1079
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 3: we see the other spy, the rock and roll spy

1080
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: looking on from afar, smoking a cigarette and yes, wearing

1081
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: the aviator. Is in the dark, it is to pitch

1082
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: black outside.

1083
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, people, he does eventually take them off, but yeah,

1084
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: not for pretty much anything.

1085
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is a good little action and intrigue scene.

1086
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: I liked it.

1087
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Twinly runs out in the street trying to

1088
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: look for the assailant. That we get some of that

1089
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: frantic camera work that I thought was pretty nice.

1090
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. After this we get the movie's first monster attack. So,

1091
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: a volcano erupts. I guess this is supposed to be

1092
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: Mount Fuji.

1093
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. An out comes kind of like

1094
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: a big rock, right, It kind of ejects what seems

1095
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: like a rock.

1096
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: And then the rock turns into Godzilla. Is that right?

1097
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or yeah, maybe it was Godzilla along or hatches Godzilla,

1098
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: but now suddenly, oh it's Godzilla.

1099
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: So our characters watch on TV as Godzilla marches across

1100
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 3: the countryside, heading toward the nearest city. Kisek's uncle is

1101
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: reminded of the prophecy when a black mountain rises over

1102
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: the clouds, a great monster will come to destroy the world,

1103
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: and then Seko had a line that made me laugh

1104
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: out loud. She said, yes, but I never imagined that

1105
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 3: monster would be Godzilla, So that was funny at first.

1106
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: But then when I thought about it, I thought, actually,

1107
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: at this point in the series, what she said makes

1108
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: perfect sense because at this point Godzilla is not here

1109
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: to destroy. Godzilla is a friendly, a protector monster.

1110
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe she doesn't even remember the first Godzilla,

1111
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: which I guess was like technically a different Godzilla monster.

1112
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: I think maybe, yeah, And then we see other reactions.

1113
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: Back on Okinawa. We see the priestess and her grandfather

1114
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: talking about how the only thing that can protect the

1115
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: world from Godzilla is their own monster, King Caesar. But

1116
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: where is he. He We don't know. Maybe he'll maybe

1117
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: he'll come forth, but he's not appearing yet. Also, the

1118
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: grandfather seems pretty keen on letting Godzilla stomp the mainlanders.

1119
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: He sees this as fitting revenge for their invasion of

1120
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: Okinawa many centuries ago.

1121
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was kind of surprised at this this part

1122
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: of the plot, but yeah, grandfather is like, yes, it's

1123
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: almost like he is praying to Godzilla at this point.

1124
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, crush them. So Godzilla stomps around and smashes

1125
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: some buildings, not as we occasionally see Kaiju movies by

1126
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: like accidentally walking through them and just haphazardly causing destruction.

1127
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 3: He is actively malicious. He pounds down hospitals with his

1128
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: fists on purpose, and he's making a face like yeah,

1129
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: take that. And then suddenly a new monster shows up,

1130
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: and Giris is here. He tunnels up out of the

1131
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: ground like a graboid and starts fighting Godzilla, and Kesek,

1132
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: who just happens to be driving nearby, says to himself

1133
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: and Giris attacking its friend Godzilla, it doesn't add up.

1134
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, these two are friends, these are known friends. Why

1135
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: are they fighting?

1136
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: And this fight is brutal. Godzilla fights like the devil.

1137
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: I feel so bad for poor Angiris. This Godzilla grabs

1138
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: Angiris by the tail, slams it on the ground, takes

1139
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: hold of its snout, and then pries the jaws back

1140
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 3: until blood and gore squirting out of the corners of

1141
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 3: its mouth. And then at this point, the first time

1142
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: I watched it, I thought, oh, okay, Angiris is dead here.

1143
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 3: But then when I watched it the second time, I

1144
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: realized there was a thing I hadn't caught. The first time,

1145
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: we see Angiris kind of scuttle away into a hole

1146
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: in the earth. So maybe it's supposed to be that

1147
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 3: Angeris survives.

1148
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: That's good because both times I watched it, I felt

1149
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: like I just witnessed a murder. Yeah, Godzilla just murders

1150
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: this poor poor Kaiju, who just is like, where is

1151
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: my Why is this thing that looks like my friend

1152
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: killing me?

1153
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 3: Why has my friend betrayed me? Yeah, but in this

1154
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: fight there is a clue that all might not be

1155
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: as it seems. One of Godzilla's scales gets knocked off,

1156
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: revealing underneath it a kind of gleaming reflective metal Casek

1157
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: goes to survey the battlefield right after the fight. At

1158
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: one point he says, what a mess, and he finds

1159
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: another piece of space titanium. This time it's a brick

1160
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 3: of space titanium, and he takes it to Professor Miajima.

1161
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: In this scene, we get the I mentioned this earlier.

1162
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: One of the weirdest Chekhov guns in any movie I

1163
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: can think of it is Professor Miyajima's super magnet tobacco pipe.

1164
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 3: So he's got a smoke pipe clearly for tobacco use only,

1165
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: which separates into two pieces. It's got the bowl and

1166
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 3: the mouthpiece, and the professor explains that when the two

1167
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 3: pieces are separated, they can be activated to generate an

1168
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: extremely powerful magnetic field that destroys any positive and negative

1169
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: electrodes in the area. And case k says, that's some pipe.

1170
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: That is some pipe seems like it has a very

1171
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: specific purpose. I wonder if it will factor into the

1172
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: plot later on.

1173
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I just wanted to make

1174
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: a pipe that destroys electrodes. So then we cut to

1175
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: Godzilla breathing fire on a factory. This whole part of

1176
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: the city is in flames. Godzilla is smashing it up good,

1177
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: and our heroes drive out in a car to get

1178
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 3: a look at Godzilla, when suddenly, in the middle of

1179
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: the rampage, the earth shakes and a second Godzilla comes

1180
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 3: up out of the ground, busting up through the roof

1181
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: of a warehouse, and case Key says, two Godzillas, what's

1182
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: going on?

1183
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: An interesting little little fact. Here is the murder Godzilla

1184
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: that we saw, the one that has already lost a scale,

1185
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: and there's some suspicious metal underneath. This is apparently apparently

1186
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: used like a promotionary Godzilla costume, like one it was

1187
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: worn at events and all I read separate from the

1188
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: updated Godzilla costume that's used for the true Godzilla. So

1189
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: I think this maybe helps to establish something feeling not

1190
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: quite right about the doppel ganger.

1191
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and I think the director was not happy with this,

1192
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: like they wanted to be able to or maybe the

1193
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 3: effects director. They wanted to have the specially made suits,

1194
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 3: but budget constraints meant that one of the Godzilla suits

1195
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 3: had to be the one that they used for public

1196
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: public events.

1197
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: But I think it kind of works, you know, I

1198
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like it would be unfair if

1199
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: divine forces allowed a perfect Godzilla facts simile to be

1200
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: unleashed on the world. True believers should be able to

1201
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: tell this is not Godzilla.

1202
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: So we're about to get a big reveal. We cut

1203
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: away while this fight is going on to somewhere else,

1204
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 3: which I originally took to be a spaceship, but we

1205
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: will actually learn it's an underground bunker. We've already had

1206
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 3: the discussion about where exactly is this unclear, But we

1207
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: meet a new character, a guy who comes off like

1208
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: a mix between Clawtu and Tony soprano. He's in a

1209
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: silver space suit but no helmet, with a big silver

1210
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: smudge on his face, and he is smoking a big

1211
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: fat cigar. So he is like an alien mafia boss

1212
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 3: who loves stogies and green wine.

1213
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: Where does his green wine? I guess probably comes from elsewhere,

1214
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: assuming he's not drinking absinth. But the cigars are these

1215
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: space cigars or theace tobacco? Is it space tobacco or

1216
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 2: is he a big fan of tearing tobacco? And if

1217
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: that is the case, like, what's the big plant? Like

1218
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: are we still going to grow tobacco? Are we only

1219
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: going to grow tobacco? Like? What is the long term

1220
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: plan for planet Earth? Here?

1221
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 3: Unclear? Yeah, but they do want conquest. We will learn

1222
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: in just a few minutes. So this guy says, I

1223
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: didn't expect the real Godzilla to show up so soon.

1224
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 3: The Earthlings must be surprised, so they're not leaving us

1225
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: in suspense about the other Godzilla tremendously long here, but

1226
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: here we get to see the second monster fight of

1227
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 3: the movie. This is now Godzilla versus Godzilla. We already

1228
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: know one of them is fake, but they both still

1229
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: look like Godzilla at this point, it's kind of like

1230
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: in Mortal Combat, in those matches where you have to

1231
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: fight yourself near match. Yeah, but our heroes look on

1232
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: while the two Godzillas bash each other in the middle

1233
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 3: of this exploding industrial area, and one Godzilla loses a

1234
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: big chunk of skin, revealing a patch of metal underneath,

1235
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: and then Professor Miyajima says, that explains it. The Godzilla

1236
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 3: from Mount Fuji is a cyborg. They say it's body. Oh,

1237
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: he says, its body is made of space metal. Meca

1238
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: Godzilla would be a fitting name, so they name it

1239
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 3: in the film.

1240
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: But then yeah, shortly after we'll hear the aliens refer

1241
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: to it as Mega Godzilla as well. So I know,

1242
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: this just shows you how how good the professor is.

1243
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: He's like, Mega Godzilla is the fitting name for it.

1244
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 3: That's what aliens would call it, if.

1245
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 2: They would call Yeah. So the two.

1246
01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 3: Godzilla's trade blasts of radiation breath at each other, but

1247
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 3: the Alien boss laughs while watching the fight on the screen.

1248
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: He says, Godzilla, you're a fool if you think you

1249
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: can beat my cyborg, and he presses a button and

1250
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: a mecha Godzilla's fake Godzilla skin burns off, revealing the

1251
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 3: full metal body underneath. So now we see its true form.

1252
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: Here the soundtrack changes to a jazzy, drum heavy kind

1253
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 3: of club number. And here Rob, do you want to

1254
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 3: describe the look of mecha Godzilla once it is revealed

1255
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: and it's true and horrifying glory?

1256
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean mecha Godzilla is amazing looking classic

1257
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: mega Godzila here, more than just a Godzilla terminator indoskeleton

1258
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: or just a mach version of Godzilla. First of all,

1259
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: his face is just pure mechanical malice. And then also

1260
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier about how they looked at the way

1261
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: like a European soldier in armor would have moved in

1262
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: like the Middle Ages. You can clearly get a sense

1263
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: of that from the design as well. Looks like body armor,

1264
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 2: looks and looks like a big suit of armor. But yeah,

1265
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: just an absolutely demonic face, just a silver icon of

1266
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: pure world cleansing destruction.

1267
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it has car tail lights for eyes

1268
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 3: that orange, that orange kind of plastic with the the

1269
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 3: I don't know, some kind of internal textures that diffuse

1270
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 3: the light in a certain way, as metal shark teeth,

1271
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 3: like real triangular teeth, finger rockets. That man, it shoots

1272
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: off more than ten rockets, so they must be self replenishing.

1273
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 3: Like it shoots its fingers off as rockets, and then

1274
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: it's just got more finger rockets to go.

1275
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: It's just got coils and coils of finger rockets inside

1276
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: of it.

1277
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and shoots rainbow eye lasers. So the two Godzilla's here,

1278
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 3: the mecha Godzilla and the real Godzilla, do a lot

1279
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 3: of beam versus beam in this fight, Like Godzilla is

1280
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: shooting his radiation breath and mecha Godzilla is shooting it

1281
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: it's eyeball lasers, and there are explosions. Eventually, the real

1282
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 3: Godzilla is wounded and falls into the water of the

1283
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 3: bay and we see blood frothing in the in the

1284
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: churning water. Mecha Godzilla is also wounded and falls down.

1285
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 3: Inside the alien Mecha Godzilla control room, they announced that

1286
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: Mecha Godzilla's head control has stopped working and they need

1287
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: to recall him for repairs. So the boss admits, we'll

1288
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: have to postpone our attack on Tokyo, bring him back

1289
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 3: for maintenance, and we'll attack Tokyo later.

1290
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: So a stalemate, a rare sort of stalemate here between

1291
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: Godzilla and antagonist.

1292
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 3: Right, Mecha Godzilla fires up his feet rockets and then

1293
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,879
Speaker 3: flies away kind of iron man.

1294
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: Like, oh man, and I love love love Mecha Godzilla's

1295
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: flying form. You know, he looks like this super heavy

1296
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: chonky jet.

1297
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: Yes, doesn't really have wings, like the arms go sort

1298
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 3: of straight back.

1299
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the arms are kind of they are sort

1300
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: of like swept back wings. I'm not saying it makes

1301
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 2: aerodynamic sense what we're seeing here, but I love the presentation.

1302
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 3: Professor Miyajima deduces that Mecha Godzilla must be under alien control,

1303
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: and he tells mass he Go that they'll have to

1304
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 3: fly to Okinawa to investigate, to go to the cave

1305
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 3: where he found the space titanium. So that's what they're

1306
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 3: going to do. Next, we get a scene of the

1307
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: aliens doing maintenance on Mecha Godzilla and inside the way

1308
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 3: the lights are put together, with all the reflective surfaces,

1309
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: it looks like Saturday night fever.

1310
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 2: It's, yeah, I like to say, kind of a funky

1311
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 2: vibe here the aliens have.

1312
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: So the aliens determined repairs are going to take too long.

1313
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: They don't have the specialists they need. So the alien

1314
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: boss says, I know what we'll do. We're going to

1315
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: kidnap the greatest Earth scientists to do the repairs for us.

1316
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: So ohen. He also at this point says send Agent

1317
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: R one to steal the statue of King Caesar. We

1318
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 3: can't have King Caesar getting woken up in the middle

1319
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: of all this.

1320
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: So the Aliens have things scouted out pretty well. They

1321
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 2: know exactly what are the main Kaiju threats to their

1322
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 2: Mecha Godzilla plan, and indeed, like what monsters is Mecha

1323
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: Godzilla intending to take out? Clearly Mega Godzilla here is

1324
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: mainly deployed to destroy Godzilla, and once Godzilla is destroyed

1325
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: then they can just eradicate the Earth or whatever their

1326
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: exact plans are.

1327
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 3: I was thinking about how, as is often the case

1328
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 3: in movies like this, the Aliens are able to watch

1329
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: events on TV in places where there's no conceivable way

1330
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: there are cameras there. So I don't know how their

1331
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 3: TVs are working, but they just kind of have omniscient television, the.

1332
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: Spy drones and deployed in ways we can't imagine.

1333
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, there is more archaeology research. The two

1334
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: professors put together that in order to wake up King Caesar,

1335
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: you have to put the statue they found on the

1336
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 3: stone shrine at Azumi Castle, and the statue is key

1337
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 3: to summoning the monster that can protect them from Mega Godzilla.

1338
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 3: Now that Godzilla appears to have been defeated, so their

1339
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: only hope now is King Caesar. So case K and

1340
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 3: Seko are sailing to Okinawa. Also, so all of our characters,

1341
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 3: I think are going to Okinawa. And so for me,

1342
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 3: there was a genuine laugh out loud moment here where

1343
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: it cuts to the two of them, cuts to Ksek

1344
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: and Siko leaning on the railing of an ocean liner

1345
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,440
Speaker 3: and saying, I doubt the aliens expected us to change ships.

1346
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean also actually trying to get to

1347
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: Okinawa in a hurry, Like I mean, I know that

1348
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: going by ship to Okinawa's is always an option, But

1349
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: this looks like more like a cruise liner. This doesn't

1350
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: look like a pleasure ship is Yeah, looks like a

1351
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: pleasure cruise. It doesn't look like its main purpose is

1352
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: to get you from point A to point B or

1353
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: like really quickly.

1354
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 3: It feels like a line that was inserted to untangle

1355
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: some kind of plot pacing problem. But I'm not sure

1356
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: what that would be. Yeah, anyway, it can't have worked

1357
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 3: too well throwing off the tail because both of the

1358
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: spies are on the boat peeping at them.

1359
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: They see Yeah, they were not able to shake a

1360
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: single follower here.

1361
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, both the spies are here, and we see the

1362
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: rock and roll spy just slamming cigarettes on the upper deck.

1363
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: So Massahiko, the Professor, and the professor's daughter Ikuko go

1364
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 3: to the cave in they go to the cave where

1365
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 3: the space titanium came from. And then while they're in

1366
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 3: the cave, they get ambushed by aliens in silver jumpsuits.

1367
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 3: Aliens take them at gunpoint to the secret mecha Godzilla layer,

1368
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,560
Speaker 3: where they meet the Big Boss, the guy who likes cigars,

1369
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: and he explains to them who the aliens are. They

1370
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 3: are a strike force sent by black Hole Planet three

1371
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 3: and he is their leader. Their mission is what else

1372
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 3: they got to conquer Earth?

1373
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 2: And I thought about this a little bit. I assume

1374
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: black Hole planet three is the third planet orbiting a

1375
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: black hole of some sort. Yeah, I guess, yeah, okay.

1376
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 3: It's like an interstellar you know.

1377
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is time like for them?

1378
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 3: They're from the matt Damon planet the Professor. The Professor

1379
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 3: when he gets this speech, he says, space aliens, as I.

1380
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 2: Suspected, always correct the Professor.

1381
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: The cigar Boss gives them a pitch. He's like, we

1382
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 3: need mecha Godzilla working so that we can conquer Earth

1383
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 3: on schedule. But his head got dinged up in the

1384
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 3: fight with Godzilla. Since you are the greatest scientist on Earth,

1385
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 3: we need you to fix him. And first he appeals

1386
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 3: to the Professor's pride and curiosity, like wouldn't it be

1387
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: an honor to work on such a project of great

1388
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: alien technology. The Professor is stonefaced, and then he goes

1389
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 3: for a new tactic. They take Massahico and Ikuko away

1390
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 3: to what they call the death Chamber and say, okay,

1391
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 3: well now you've got to repair our mech or your

1392
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 3: daughter and her friend will die, and he reluctantly agrees.

1393
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: And all through these scenes, the boss alien is drinking

1394
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: green liquid green wine. I guess is what it seems like.

1395
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: Somewhere else, on a dark and stormy island, we see Godzilla.

1396
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: Godzilla is not dead. Godzilla clon's ashore. The wind is whipping,

1397
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 3: there's a storm in the air, it's dark out, and

1398
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: he stands up on the beach and starts absorbing lightning strikes.

1399
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 3: This seems to be now how Godzilla powers up and

1400
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 3: he gets so powered up his body is emitting sparks.

1401
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: It feels like, what's one of those great power up shows.

1402
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: I get the feeling. I never really watched Dragon ball Z,

1403
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 3: but I get the feeling that this is a lot

1404
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 3: of what dragonball Z is. Like.

1405
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I forget that there's a particular term

1406
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: for this in Japanese media, but yeah, the power up

1407
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: scene where one even often changes form. There's not really

1408
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: a form change here, but it does feel kind of

1409
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: like the Godzilla quickening, Yes, absorbing all this lightning energy,

1410
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 2: And I also liked it how it like in this

1411
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 2: film anyway, clearly establishes Godzilla is kind of an elemental force, yes,

1412
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: which is nice, whereas King Caesar is more of a

1413
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: clearly divine element with some other attributes we'll get into.

1414
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: And then of course, mecha Godzilla is alien technology.

1415
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, okay, well, the way Godzilla is absorbing lightning

1416
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: strikes here ties in. I think to the vision of

1417
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: Godzilla in this movie as having electromagnetic related powers, which

1418
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 3: is fairly new as far as I recall, we.

1419
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 2: Can going up against a metal adversary.

1420
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 3: So back on the pleasure cruise in the middle of

1421
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: the night, the mustache spy sneaks into Seko's room in

1422
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: the middle of the night and steals the red box

1423
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: with the King Caesar statue inside, and he gets away

1424
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: with it, but then he is surprised in another room

1425
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: by kase K and they fight again. It's a fisticuffs rematch.

1426
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: Kasey K tries to get information out of him. He's like,

1427
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: why does he want the statue? Who is he? The

1428
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 3: spy draws a knife and attacks, but case K manages

1429
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: to shoot the spy in the face with his own

1430
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: silenced pistol. However, the spy is not killed. This was

1431
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: one of the weirdest parts of the movie for me.

1432
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 3: Instead of dying, the spy collapses and then undergoes a transformation. He,

1433
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 3: like the other aliens, has looked totally human so far,

1434
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: but once wounded in the face, he goes through a

1435
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: were wolf transformation effect. Except he's not a were wolf.

1436
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: He is a ware gorilla with a gorilla mask like

1437
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: they used in Planet of the Apes, but only for

1438
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: half of his face. The half that got wounded. So

1439
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: now he has a Phantom of the Opera style half mask,

1440
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: but it's a gorilla mask.

1441
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some they're basically space gorillas. Yes, whish I.

1442
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 3: Love and he at this point does not speak human language,

1443
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 3: but starts grunting and making uk uk sounds like a

1444
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: movie ape amazing, So Keisek chases the gorilla spy out

1445
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 3: onto the deck of the ship, which is completely empty.

1446
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 3: There are no other passengers. The ape man throws some

1447
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 3: deck chairs at him and they catch up and end

1448
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: up fighting again. And just when it seems like the

1449
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 3: gorilla alien has the upper hand and is about to

1450
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 3: shoot case K, someone else off screen shoots the alien

1451
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 3: and then the alien tumbles into the ocean, clutching the statue.

1452
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: So like, oh no, did we lose the statue? And

1453
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: who did the shooting? Might not be hard to guess

1454
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: at this point, but somebody, somebody saved our hero here.

1455
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 3: But so obviously we're in suspense for a moment, like,

1456
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: didn't we need that statue to summon King Caesar? Is

1457
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 3: there any way to get it back from the bottom

1458
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 3: of the sea. I was thinking, oh, are we about

1459
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 3: to get a submarine plot where they send a submersible

1460
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: down to find it. No, Fortunately, case K deceived Sakoh

1461
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,879
Speaker 3: yet again, hiding the real statue in the ship's safe

1462
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 3: and leaving a fake decoy statue in her room without

1463
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 3: her knowledge. When she finds out about this, she says,

1464
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: you made a fool of me, and and then case

1465
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: K says, it sounds like he's reciting a proverb deceive

1466
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: your friend to deceive your foe, and then they both laugh.

1467
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't know where that proverb was from.

1468
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 3: I looked it up. It seems just based on a

1469
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 3: quick googling, it looks like it might be an adaptation

1470
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 3: of a saying of sun zoo.

1471
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.

1472
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,799
Speaker 3: Anyway, they they have a whole conversation with the captain

1473
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: of the ship about how their voyage was so pleasant,

1474
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: and then they kind of show a sizzle reel of

1475
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 3: the ship coming into the harbor and dropping anchor, and

1476
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 3: it again kind of feels like a part of the

1477
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 3: movie sponsored by Okinawa Cruise Lines.

1478
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 2: It really does.

1479
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 3: But when kaise Ke and Seko arrive at the hotel,

1480
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 3: they find that their friends have been missing for several days.

1481
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 3: Uh oh, So kase K goes to the cave to

1482
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: see if he can find any clue about what happened. Meanwhile,

1483
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 3: we find out that inside the secret base, the Professor

1484
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 3: is finished with his repairs on Mecca. Godzilla. The big

1485
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 3: boss alien, is very pleased with his work invites it's

1486
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,959
Speaker 3: the professor to drink green wine with him and celebrate

1487
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 3: the glorious rebirth of their cyborg. But the Professor is

1488
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 3: not interested. He just wants the prisoners freed, and the

1489
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: Stogy boss is like, okay, yeah, come on, follow me.

1490
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 3: But what do we think are these aliens going to

1491
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 3: keep their word? Of course not. They just open the

1492
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 3: door and they chuck the Professor into the death chamber,

1493
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: along with his daughter and with Masahiko, and then they

1494
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 3: turn on the heating elements and the steam jets. So

1495
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: it seems that the death chamber is basically a bakery oven.

1496
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 3: It's a steam injected oven.

1497
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: At least they'll get a good sweat in before they expire.

1498
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 3: It'll give them a nice crispy crust. So back in

1499
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 3: the cave casek is looking around and he finds something.

1500
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 3: It is the Professor's monster magnet tobacco pipe.

1501
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: Yes.

1502
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 3: He then gets held up at gunpoint by an alien

1503
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 3: in a silver jumpsuit, and case K asks where are

1504
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 3: my brother and the professor. The alien says, you'll be

1505
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 3: joining them soon as a corpse. But before the alien

1506
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 3: can kill Casek, someone else shoots the alien from off screen.

1507
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 3: And who is it? It is, of course the rock

1508
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 3: and Roll Spy, the one who has been saving Ksek

1509
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: the entire time. So he hops into frame with his

1510
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 3: glorious shaggy hair. He's still dressed in the black outfit

1511
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 3: and yes, wearing his sunglasses in the cave, and the

1512
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 3: rock and roll spy transitions from guns to melee and

1513
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: beats up the alien. At one point he does a

1514
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 3: is it called an elbow drop? What he does on him? Ye?

1515
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think so that's that drops the elbow.

1516
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 3: So the unconscious alien's hand then like he falls on

1517
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: the ground, and we see the alien and his hand

1518
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 3: warps into a hairy gorilla hand, but the rest of

1519
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 3: his body doesn't transform yet. The spy finally introduces himself.

1520
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 3: He tells Ksek his name is Nanbara. Who is he?

1521
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: Is he another alien from a rival planet? What's the deal? No,

1522
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 3: he explains, he is with Interpole. Yes, the International Criminal

1523
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 3: Police organization. He says, quote, we got wind of their

1524
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: strange activities six months ago, we cast a net to

1525
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: apprehend them. You and your friends got caught in it.

1526
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 3: I was really confused at this point. So does that

1527
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 3: mean that Interpol planted the King Caesar statue in the

1528
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,839
Speaker 3: cave under the expo site?

1529
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't get that from it. Okay, yeah,

1530
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: I think I just assumed it was more like, Okay,

1531
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: we have alien invaders working to some degree like a

1532
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 2: criminal enterprise, so it falls under Interpol's jurisdiction, so it

1533
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: must be an international effort as well, right, I'm assuming

1534
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: otherwise it would be purely like a Japanese police effort.

1535
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 3: I don't know much about Interpol. My understanding is that

1536
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: they are mainly a sort of information sharing organization. Like

1537
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: I did not think Interpol had enforcement capabilities of its own.

1538
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, because when they were h Hannibal Lecter, then

1539
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: they leaned on Interpol for information. But in this case

1540
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 2: they're deploying agents. Maybe it's it's different if it's a

1541
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: If it's Hannibal Lecter, you just let other authorities know

1542
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: about it. If it is alien invaders, well then you

1543
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 2: have to send out your super cool agents to deal with.

1544
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 3: It, Sonnbara. Here the the Interpol agent, also like, what

1545
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: is the our Interpol agents in this world generally understood

1546
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: to be cool, like like rock and roll kind of

1547
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 3: lifestyle or yeah, I would think of them as being

1548
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 3: a little more I don't know, bureaucratic office dwellers.

1549
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 2: But well, the field agents I guess are cooler.

1550
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, sonn Bara. He interrogates the defeated alien and demands

1551
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 3: to be taken to the secret base, and so they

1552
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: go there. They find a secret button that opens the

1553
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 3: door hidden inside a stalactite that's like a breakaway yeah. Yeah.

1554
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 3: There are more scenes, of course, of the steam jets

1555
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 3: going in the death chamber, and I noticed that the

1556
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 3: people in this steam injected oven are hugging too much

1557
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: for a room that's supposed to be too hot. They're

1558
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: all clutching each other, and this goes on for a

1559
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 3: long time. I started to think the death chamber is

1560
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: feeling a bit like padding, like, yes, we know the

1561
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 3: steam vents are blowing. It's hot. So Nanbara in case

1562
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 3: K discovered that there is a password to enter the base.

1563
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: The password is you say the people inside say alpha,

1564
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 3: and then you say, Centaurus. So our heroes go inside

1565
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: and they beat up some aliens, put on alien jumpsuit disguises,

1566
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 3: and they set the prisoners free. They escape the base,

1567
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: they leave the cave. They go to the car, but

1568
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: then Ninbarra thinks, wait a minute, this car might be

1569
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 3: booby trapped, So they leave the car and trigger it remotely.

1570
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: And yes, indeed, while they're in the cave, the aliens

1571
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 3: put a bomb in their car. Well, don't usually think

1572
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 3: about that happening.

1573
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, these are very criminally aligned aliens.

1574
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 3: So there's another It feels again like a mafia theme,

1575
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 3: like Mafia once again, almost inspired by The Godfather, one

1576
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 3: would think, because there's a car bomb in the first

1577
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: Godfather movee too. Yeah. Anyway, so the plot the plot,

1578
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 3: there's there's another plot going on at the same time,

1579
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 3: which is we see Seko, the archaeology professor, at the

1580
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 3: hotel with the King Caesar statue, and she looks out

1581
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 3: the window and sees a red moon outside, just like

1582
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 3: in the prophecy, remember the red Moon. So we have

1583
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 3: the characters kind of all splitting up into different factions

1584
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 3: for the final mission. The professor, Nanbara and Masahiko are

1585
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 3: going to go back into the alien base to destroy

1586
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 3: Mecha Godzilla's head control. Meanwhile, Kaseke, Ikuko and Seko are

1587
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 3: going to meet up and take the statue to Azumi

1588
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 3: Castle and perform the ritual to summon King Caesar. You

1589
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 3: got all that straight?

1590
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it might just be enough to pull this off,

1591
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 2: because we can we can maybe stop or at least

1592
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 2: least weakend Mega Godzilla and hopefully summon a creature to

1593
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: battle it.

1594
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 3: Right, So, the latter group they go to the castle,

1595
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 3: which is now shown to be on the beach. They

1596
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 3: meet with the priestess from the opening scene and her grandfather,

1597
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 3: who are being held hostage by another group of aliens

1598
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 3: from black Hole planet three, but they are saved by

1599
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: the intervention of a second Interpol agent. Let's get another

1600
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: one in there. The prophecy comes true because remember it

1601
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 3: said that the red moon would set and the sun

1602
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 3: would rise in the west. How is that possible? While

1603
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 3: they see a sun rising in the west and it

1604
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 3: turns out it is some kind of reflection or mirage

1605
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 3: in the sky, and then the sunlight reflects off of

1606
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: the jewels in the eye sockets of the King Caesar statue,

1607
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 3: and this creates laser beams that blast a hole in

1608
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 3: the side of the mountain opposite the bay, revealing the

1609
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: face of the actual giant King Caesar. But he's not

1610
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 3: awake yet. He is slumbering inside the rocks. He must

1611
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 3: be awakened by a descendant of the Azumi royals. So

1612
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 3: here we get the movie's musical number, sung by the

1613
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 3: priestess Nami rob I took a I found online. Somebody

1614
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 3: claimed this is an English translation of the lyrics to

1615
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 3: the song. I don't know if any of the lines

1616
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 3: really stand out at you. It says, even the great

1617
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 3: burning sun pierces through the curtain, beautiful morning sun. From sleep,

1618
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 3: the star wakes my Shisa, beloved star of the beach.

1619
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 3: We are waiting for you to be here.

1620
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 2: It's kind of beautiful.

1621
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,839
Speaker 3: That's not the whole thing. There's a lot more entreaty,

1622
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 3: just begging for Shesa's help. But we strongly implore you

1623
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: that sort of.

1624
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 2: Thing, beloved fruit of the coconut tree, We are waiting

1625
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 2: for you to be here.

1626
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 3: She says, strongly help. But okay, this does succeed in

1627
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 3: waking up King Sisa, who comes out of the Mountain

1628
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 3: to defend the world from the Mega Godzilla attack. Of course,

1629
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 3: the Aliens are sending out Mega gods Mecca. Godzilla is

1630
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 3: going to do the rampage rob Would you like to

1631
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 3: describe King Chisa here? Yeah, sorry, they call they call

1632
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 3: him King Caesar in the movie. But also there's some

1633
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 3: king shei'sa I wonder if you do. They pronounce it

1634
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 3: differently at different times.

1635
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always sort of pronounced. I mean, I

1636
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 2: have more recent history with the with the Japanese language version,

1637
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it always sounds to me like

1638
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 2: they're saying, she's a but it is very widely uh

1639
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: translated as King Caesar in English. So I mean, can

1640
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 2: you I think, as as English speaking fans of Godzilla,

1641
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: I think you can use either, as long as you

1642
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 2: don't get too wrapped up in the idea that this

1643
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 2: has any connection to Roman Caesar or anything. But yeah,

1644
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: so at first she's a king. She'sa is of course

1645
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: in the rock and there's kind of this idea and

1646
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 2: the alien boss is referencing this that, well, we'll go

1647
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 2: ahead destroy King Chiza before it can even climb out,

1648
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: but eventually she'sus going to get out and we see

1649
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: more of it. As we mentioned, certainly a lion dog

1650
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 2: feel a little bit like a werebat in its furriness.

1651
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 2: But one interesting thing to think about is to ask

1652
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 2: the question, how are we to understand King Caesar? Are

1653
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: we supposed to think of this as a flesh and

1654
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: blood incarnation of a god? As I think has been

1655
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 2: fan speculation for a long time, or equally pondered by fans,

1656
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 2: is King Caesar a kind of golum, a statue, an

1657
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 2: artificial entity with maybe flesh on the outside, but something

1658
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 2: else on the inside, kind of like an ancient analog

1659
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,879
Speaker 2: of mecha Godzilla Joe. For your purposes, here I included

1660
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: a couple of cross sections I found online. One is

1661
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 2: definitely from an old Japanese trading card. There are lots

1662
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: of wonderful kaiju like dissection illustration showing you the possible

1663
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 2: insides of monsters, and these are all amazing, And one

1664
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: of them here definitely has like an organic inside for

1665
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: King Caesar, but another one has very almost like ancient

1666
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 2: robot feel inside like y has like bricks for bones

1667
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: and golden bones and minerals, which again we have to

1668
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: remember that they're using a statue of a lion dog

1669
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: to summon him. So there is this connection with the

1670
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: artificiality of that. So maybe on some level, this faded

1671
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 2: combatant of mecha Godzilla is like an ancient version of

1672
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 2: the same sort of thing.

1673
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 3: The ancient Holy Mech versus the futuristic unholy mech.

1674
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I like thinking about this creature like that.

1675
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 2: By the way, King Shiza or King Caesar, to my knowledge,

1676
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 2: has never really come back in a Godzilla film. There's

1677
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: there's a later Godzilla movie from a different era where

1678
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: Godzilla's fighting a bunch of monsters, and they sort of

1679
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 2: they bring back the design of King Caesar, but they

1680
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 2: don't draw in any of like the okinawa and stuff,

1681
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 2: or certainly they don't explore this creature's background or interior structure.

1682
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 2: It's just positioned as like an alien enemy of Godzilla.

1683
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 2: Though at the same time, I will say, when they

1684
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: bring the character back, they make King Caesar more curvy.

1685
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so like a kind of yeah yeah,

1686
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: but but yeah, so I think Godzilla fans might agree

1687
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: this is a character that really needs to come back

1688
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 2: in a major way.

1689
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 3: Totally. Yes. The fight here at the end of the

1690
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 3: movie is a multi stage fight. So first you've got

1691
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 3: Mecca Godzilla versus King Caesar one on one, and he

1692
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 3: comments on this part of the fight.

1693
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 2: Well, I would say King Caesar puts up a good fight.

1694
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 2: So he has no actual ranged weapons himself, but via

1695
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 2: the like the gym in his head, he can absorb

1696
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 2: and then blast back energy projections, which is a good way,

1697
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:11,959
Speaker 2: you know, making up for this lack of arranged ability.

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Speaker 2: But then the main feature of King Caesar is that

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01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: he's fast. You know, he's a lion dog, so he

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01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: can really try and close the distance between himself and

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01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Mecha Godzilla pretty quickly. But in this case, Mecha Godzilla

1702
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 2: is well prepared and has all the firepower in the world.

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01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 3: So after this, after this initial stage of the fight,

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01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 3: we get a twist, which is that Godzilla reappears and

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01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 3: joins the fight. So remember the prophecy said there would

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01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 3: be a monster that would attack the world, and then

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01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 3: when the sun sets in the west or when the

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01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 3: sun rises in the west, then the two monsters would

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01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 3: appear to protect the world from the monster that attacked.

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Speaker 3: So the second one here is Godzilla.

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01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you mentioned earlier two on one odds

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01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 2: it's pretty good, right, So you might think that our

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01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: good guy monsters have the upper hand here, but man,

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01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 2: we start seeing some amazing, full on assaults from the

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Speaker 2: ultimate mobile weapons platform that is Mecha Godzilla. My favorite

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Speaker 2: scene is one where Godzilla is coming from one direction,

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01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,959
Speaker 2: King Caesar's coming from the other direction. Mecca Godzilla swivels

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01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: its head around so that it can fire projectile weapons

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01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: in both directions, just unleashing, like a full scale bombardment

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01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: at both of its adversaries. Just an amazing moment. And

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01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 2: then later on we see a full frontal projectile assault

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01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 2: that is also just all the fireworks. Again. Mecha Godzilla

1723
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 2: has so many weapons. He's got the finger rockets. I

1724
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: think he has toe rockets, he has some other kind

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01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: of laser weapon that comes out of his chest. He's

1726
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 2: got the I beams everything in the world.

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01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 3: He can generate a force field that surrounds him. That Godzilla,

1728
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 3: you cannot be penetrated, you know.

1729
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 2: Right right, And then when he takes to the sky,

1730
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 2: he has the aerial advantage and can basically like do

1731
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 2: strafing runs on monster enemies.

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01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 3: So it looks pretty tough. But this fight reveals a

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01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 3: previously undisclosed Godzilla power. I think I can't actually verify

1734
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 3: this has never appeared in a movie before this, but

1735
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 3: I think it has not. And that power is generating

1736
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:32,719
Speaker 3: a Kaiju sized magnetic field. So we see Godzilla pulling

1737
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 3: objects to his body with this great magnetic field, like

1738
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 3: he's pulling electrical pylons into his body. And then finally,

1739
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 3: while Meka Godzilla is trying to fly around in jet

1740
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: airplane mode to escape, Godzilla pulls mecha Godzilla to himself

1741
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 3: with his magnetic power so that it cannot rock it away.

1742
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,520
Speaker 3: And then I guess comes the like the real grappling

1743
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 3: part of the fight, which is Godzilla's. That's how Godzilla

1744
01:35:58,479 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 3: gets the advantage is the.

1745
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: Grapple, and certainly mecha Godzilla can still handle his own

1746
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 2: up close and personal, but I don't think as quite

1747
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: as well as Godzilla. Like Godzilla, this is where he's

1748
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: going to have the clear advantage as a grappler. Right.

1749
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 3: There's a concurrent side plot, also involving a great magnetic field.

1750
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 3: Our other three heroes inside the alien base. They try

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01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 3: to sneak in, they get caught in a trap, they're

1752
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 3: held prisoner, and while they're tied up, they hatch a

1753
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 3: plan to use the Professor's super magnet tobacco pipe to

1754
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 3: destroy the control room and sabotage Mecha Godzilla's controls. They

1755
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 3: do succeed at doing this, but I did wonder, like

1756
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 3: it seems like Godzilla and King Caesar have sort of

1757
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 3: already won the fight at this point.

1758
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we really had that moment in

1759
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 2: the fight where it's like Godzilla can almost pull it

1760
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: off if only somebody in an alien base somewhere were

1761
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 2: to blow up a key mechanism, Like we don't really

1762
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 2: get that.

1763
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but I don't know. Maybe they just needed

1764
01:36:55,920 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 3: to destroy the base to prevent Mecha Godzilla from being

1765
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 3: repaired and coming back. Maybe maybe so. But also the

1766
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 3: bass is collapsing in flames after this, and we see

1767
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 3: our heroes trying to like run out and escape and

1768
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 3: there's like stuff falling all around them, And I think

1769
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 3: the movie leaves significant questions unanswered about which characters survive

1770
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 3: getting out of the base. Like they see the base exploding,

1771
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 3: and Kuko, the Professor's daughter, says, oh, my father, and

1772
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 3: then another character says, I'm sure he got out all right. Oh.

1773
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 3: Mentioned before the base collapses. The alien boss gets killed,

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01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 3: and when he dies, his face is not exactly a

1775
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: gorilla mask like the others. It's like eighty percent gorilla mask,

1776
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 3: but green with these yellow horns on the face. I

1777
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 3: didn't know what the difference was there. Maybe he's just

1778
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 3: kind of green from all the green wine he drinks.

1779
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 2: Or he is an elder and the elders grow tiny

1780
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 2: little spikes out of there. We just we have so

1781
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 2: many questions about the basic physiology of these aliens.

1782
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, after the fight is over, I really like

1783
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,759
Speaker 3: the way King Caesar just goes back in his hole

1784
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 3: and reburies himself. Yeah, he sucks all the rocks over

1785
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 3: his face.

1786
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean almost like he's not again, Like maybe

1787
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 2: he's a slumbering creature, a slumbering deity, or maybe he

1788
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 2: is again an artificial being that is only activated in

1789
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 2: times of great need.

1790
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. So at the end of the movie, we find

1791
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 3: that the ancestors of the Royal House of Azumi can

1792
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 3: rest in peace because everything has has been settled. Of course,

1793
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 3: the world is saved from the rampage of mecha Godzilla

1794
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 3: and from the alien plot that's all been put down.

1795
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 3: We do see Massahiko as Okay, so he was in

1796
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 3: the base, he got out, all right, we see him unharmed.

1797
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,759
Speaker 3: But what happened to the other two guys, the Interpol

1798
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 3: agent and the professor. I think we never see them again,

1799
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 3: and nobody says anything about whether they survived or not.

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01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 2: I think you're correct, because some characters from this film

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01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 2: will pop up again in the Terror of Mega Godzilla.

1802
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I don't. I don't think our cool

1803
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 2: sunglasses agent actually shows up again. I think I think

1804
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 2: he had had other cool movies to do at that point.

1805
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 3: Man, well you should do a crossover like that guy,

1806
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 3: the Interpol agent and Diabolic if they worked together, can

1807
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 3: you imagine Yeah, yeah, the adventures they would have.

1808
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, in general, I like I like the synergy

1809
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 2: of like Spy Movie and in Big Monster Battle, I

1810
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 2: think it worked pretty well here. I agree. Yeah, and

1811
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 2: and again the monster battles do not disappoint a lot

1812
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 2: of fun.

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01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I think that does it for my

1814
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 3: thoughts on Godzilla versus Mega Godzilla.

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01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same. But as you know, for your listeners

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Speaker 2: out there, if you have additional thoughts, insights, bits of trivia,

1817
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 2: interpretations of what we see in this film, right in.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to discuss it with you. We'd love to

1819
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 2: feature it on future episodes of Stuff to Blow Your Mind.

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Speaker 2: Listener mail, you know, there's a lot to talk about here,

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01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 2: and this movie's been around long enough and been a

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01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 2: popular a popular Godzilla film long enough that people have

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01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 2: a lot of thoughts. For instance, in at least the book,

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01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Ready Player one. I don't remember if this is in

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01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 2: the film adaptation or not, but the most powerful mech

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01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 2: that a player in the virtual world can take on

1827
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 2: is the mecha Godzilla, and so the villain of the

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Speaker 2: piece ultimately like takes on the form of mecha Godzilla

1829
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 2: to battle the hero again. I just can't recall if

1830
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 2: that's actually in the movie as well, but it's definitely

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