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Speaker 1: So Steve Gregory's here. It's my first appearance on the

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Speaker 2: Welcome. Well, it's good to have you, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: And this is an intriguing story because the police chief

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Speaker 1: DACA recipients. You remember the DACA kids who are now adults.

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Speaker 1: These were children taken into the United States illegally by

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Speaker 1: And now they are adults, and they're old enough to

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Speaker 1: and Steve Gregor is here to tell us about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was tipped off about it last week, and to

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Speaker 1: It was signed into law last September and it became

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Speaker 2: That was part of the condition.

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Speaker 1: So that somehow sort of expanded into other jobs and

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Speaker 1: It now, you had said that in the constitution, California

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Speaker 1: now we can have non citizens sworn in as police officers.

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Speaker 1: The first one happens tomorrow at the LAPD Academy. So

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Speaker 2: It's just starting to come out. It hasn't been made public.

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Speaker 1: I mean, again, just to your point earlier, I had

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Speaker 1: Because this is a few years ago that this provision

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Speaker 1: They amended their rule to be able to allow a

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Speaker 1: Pay, the stress is less, but you still have young

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm so good at that, Steve. I never make

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Speaker 2: A very dispensal family. We really do. Yeah, nobody never

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Speaker 1: LAPD recovered a half million dollars worth of stolen items.

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Speaker 1: a fine for LAPD Half billion dollars worth of stolen items,

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of good stuff on the show today.

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Speaker 1: Blake Trolley. Blake is covering LAPD story. Apparently they found

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Speaker 6: Yeah, John, What's actually really incredible about this is the

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Speaker 6: So what a mess for retailers. Their products are being

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Speaker 6: And I wasn't even thinking about this also without tax

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Speaker 7: Laptop computers that we believed had been stolen, and at

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Speaker 6: They actually brought retailers out last night, John, so reps

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about the west Lake district in LA

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. Yeah, years ago.

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Speaker 6: And now one thing that I did, and I want

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Speaker 6: asked investigators today are they actually prosecuting these cases when

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Speaker 6: these end up in Gascon's office? Are they actually being prosecuted?

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Speaker 6: And I was told yes, that the attitude in La

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Speaker 6: Now things have really tightened up, so they've been hit

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Speaker 6: And that was i know, a part of this organized

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Speaker 6: Retail Crime task force. You know, prosecutors were brought in

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Speaker 6: on this and they vowed that they would take these seriously.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope they give maximum sentences if there is

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Speaker 1: such a thing anymore. I was looking at the video

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Speaker 6: And it's not the items that you usually see, right,

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Speaker 6: It's not like when I first saw the headline, I

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Speaker 1: What you heard.

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Speaker 6: There were TVs and laptops mixed in there, But then

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Speaker 6: you just start seeing these everyday grocery items. There were

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Speaker 6: palace it's a monster energy drinks on the laped had

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Speaker 6: posted photos though.

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Speaker 1: Cases of soda. It looks like cases of coke or

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Speaker 1: something similar.

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Speaker 6: Well, one thing that could get Sacramento's mind, you know,

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Speaker 6: on quelling some of this retail theft, especially as it

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Speaker 2: Forty seven.

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Speaker 6: Is as it was made evident to me, I didn't

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Speaker 6: even think about this, is that this is creating competition

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Speaker 6: for retailers, right because these other stores are opening.

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Speaker 2: And they're not paying any taxes. Exactly, there's no sales

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Speaker 2: tax on any of this.

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Speaker 1: There's so many crimes that go downstream from the original thefts.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good, Blake, Thanks thanks very much. Blake

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Speaker 1: Troley CAFI News on the half million dollars at least

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Speaker 1: of stolen items that they seized in the Rampart division

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Speaker 1: in the Westlake District of Los Angeles. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: they pass a law. It's so crazy what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: They pass a law anything under nine fifty. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to enforce the law anymore. Right, just steal it,

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Speaker 1: you can have it, go ahead, We won't. We won't

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Speaker 1: bother with you. So these guys start stealing compulsively. They

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Speaker 2: And so you get whacked twice. If you're a legal.

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Speaker 1: Business owner, you get your stuff stolen, then a new

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Speaker 1: pop up opens up near you, they undercut you in price,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to pay taxes. And then the stupid

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Speaker 2: It really is misleading to say the crist.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not down. Everybody's given up reporting this for

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Speaker 1: the reasons Blake said, First of all, you don't want

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Speaker 1: increase insurance premiums. You might as well just eat the loss.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you know, the cops generally don't do anything.

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Speaker 1: Now they were so embarrassed by this run of smash

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Speaker 1: now they finally buckled and they're doing something. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Gascone is running for reelection. We're going to be getting

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Speaker 1: Now two thirty we're gonna have Nathan hochmannon who's running

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Speaker 1: for La County District Attorney, And I just want to

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Speaker 2: There is polling, uh.

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Speaker 1: And this looks to be a real poll done by

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Speaker 1: Remington Research Group. They surveyed nearly two thousand likely voters

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Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles as who they want as a

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Speaker 1: district attorney. And what's really interesting, it's a big field, right,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people undecided, but Gascone only

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Speaker 1: gets eighteen percent of the vote. Nathan Hockman gets twelve percent. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: the number of people voting against gascon far exceed his supporters,

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Speaker 1: but it's split up nine different ways. Nathan Hockman's at

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Speaker 1: twelve percent. John Hattammy eight percent. Hawkman, if you don't know,

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Speaker 1: is a former federal prosecutor and assistant US Attorney General,

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Speaker 1: and he's the LA City Ethics Commissioned President, so he's

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Speaker 1: a well known name. He has run for other offices,

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Speaker 1: so he's got some name recognition. So Gascone eighteen, Hawkman twelve.

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Speaker 1: John HATTAMMI a deputy DA. We've had him on the

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Speaker 1: show many times. Eight percent, uh, and then everybody else

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Speaker 1: down the line six percent, three percent, one percent. I

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Speaker 1: will go through all the names, and then there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a large portion that's undecided. So Remington jet took

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Speaker 1: those results and said, okay, if Gascone and Hawkman would

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Speaker 1: be the top two picks in the March primary runoff,

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Speaker 1: how did a general election go? Hawkman won fifty six

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Speaker 1: to eighteen. What's funny is that there was no difference

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Speaker 1: in Gascone's support between the primary and the general election,

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Speaker 1: Gascone doesn't win over the supporters of anybody else running

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Speaker 1: when it goes to round two of voting. Now, because

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people undecided, and because nobody

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Speaker 1: is significantly in the lead, I don't want to suggest

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Speaker 1: that Hawkman has this locked up, because any of these

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Speaker 1: other candidates could end up. I mean, the public campaign

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Speaker 1: really hasn't gotten going. It's going to start probably after

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Speaker 1: New Year's Day, and you're going to see and hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of commercials, radio and television commercials on this,

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Speaker 1: and there'll be more press coverage and whatnot. But at

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Speaker 1: the moment, Nathan Hockman's in a good position second to

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Speaker 1: Gascone and would beat him by almost forty points in

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Speaker 1: a general election, because you assume that most of the

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Speaker 1: opponents are going to coalesce around Hawkman or a Tommy

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Speaker 1: or whoever gets that number two position if they if

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Speaker 1: they do get Now, if some of these other candidates,

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Speaker 1: you know, dropped out, it's almost like running against Trump

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Speaker 1: if there was only if there was only one person

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Speaker 1: running against Trump, might be a much more interesting race, uh,

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Speaker 1: from that standpoint, And if there was only one person

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Speaker 1: or two people running against Gascone, but they have nine

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 2: It's split up.

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Speaker 1: The good news is there's no way gascones getting to

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent, So there's no way he would win

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Speaker 1: outright in March. And it looks like it would be

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Speaker 1: very difficult for him to win outright in November since

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Speaker 1: Hawkman beats him fifty six to eighteen. Right now, twenty

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Speaker 1: six percent said they were undecided. Even if he got

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Speaker 1: all of the undecided votes, Gasco would still lose by

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Speaker 1: double digits. So this this is great news for the

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Speaker 1: future of Los Angeles County. Maybe I have I have

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Speaker 1: sensed because of a number of stories that that woke

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Speaker 1: has peaked. And I think all this permissive nonsense when

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Speaker 1: imprisoning bad guys, I think that whole philosophy has finally

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Speaker 1: peaked as well. That and and the big pushback is

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Speaker 1: to dump Gascone, And that's going to be a big

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Speaker 1: what I want to do between the uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back from holiday break January second. Between January

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Speaker 1: second and the March election, I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to get every single district attorney candidate on the end

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Speaker 1: for a one on one interview. We're going to arrange

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Speaker 1: all that dig don't disagree very much, as you would imagine,

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Speaker 1: but at least you'll get to hear about their experience.

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Speaker 1: You get a sense of their personalities, a sense of

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Speaker 1: or not. So that's that's a promise from here that

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Speaker 1: most of them will, all right, So that that's ahead

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Speaker 1: hochmannh at two thirty to talk about this now after

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Speaker 1: Debra's News at two. Liz Landers, ABC News correspondent, this

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