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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome in. Kevin Clark from The Ringer.

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Speaker 2: We'll stop by for a twenty minute chat on our

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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning podcast. It is great to be here. There's

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Speaker 2: some college football news today that I want to discuss

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Speaker 2: three things. Number One, SEC Commissioner Greg Sanke says the

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Speaker 2: entire playoff structure, which is going to expand to twelve

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Speaker 2: teams in twenty twenty four, needs to be reconsidered because

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Speaker 2: of expansion. And I absolutely agree. This is what I

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Speaker 2: have proposed, and this is what I believe is the

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Speaker 2: truth of the playoff structure. I think it needs to

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Speaker 2: go to sixteen, eighteen to twenty four teams. I think

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Speaker 2: there is so much money left on the table in

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Speaker 2: college football because of so many of these dreary, small

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Speaker 2: town bowls that nobody attends, nobody really wants to play in.

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Speaker 2: It's just a way to get practices for some of

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Speaker 2: these coaches that you know half of them. Nobody shows

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Speaker 2: up to the games. They're awful, they're optically bad, players

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Speaker 2: could get hurt. Great players go into the NFL, don't

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Speaker 2: want to play in them. Get rid of those things.

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Speaker 2: I think we now have to consider, not just twelve teams,

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Speaker 2: to take a page from college basketball and have a dramatic,

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Speaker 2: long playoff scenario to cap off the season. It's the

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Speaker 2: icing to the cake. College Basketball's primary issue is the

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Speaker 2: cake isn't very good anymore. The best players don't want

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Speaker 2: to play college basketball, and if they do, it's briefly

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Speaker 2: one year and they're gone. College football will maintain a

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Speaker 2: high level of integrity and competitiveness and quality because you

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Speaker 2: have to stay in college football minimum three years. Most

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Speaker 2: players stay four, some even five with red shirting. So

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Speaker 2: I mean you see some of these quarterbacks coming out.

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Speaker 2: They're twenty four to twenty five years old now, and

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Speaker 2: so the quality of college football will remain high. I've

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Speaker 2: never bought into this argument that it'll kill college football rivalries. Really,

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Speaker 2: Auburn Alabama both know they're getting into a twelve to

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Speaker 2: sixteen team playoff. You're not going to watch the game

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Speaker 2: in Alabama. That game won't mean anything. You'll just skip

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Speaker 2: the next day. That's so stupid. You love college football

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Speaker 2: or you don't. Rivalries will always matter Douke. Carolina is

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Speaker 2: still a great rivalry, and we know they could meet

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Speaker 2: again and again and again down the road. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Great is great. So Greg Sankee, who is the most

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Speaker 2: powerful person in college football, the SEC Commissioner, says, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're expanding all these conferences. Let's reconsider the playoff structure.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for it. What the SEC has done better

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Speaker 2: than any conference. They've been willing to evolve, be aggressive annually.

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Speaker 2: And Greg's right. Secondly, Jim Harbaugh self imposed three game

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Speaker 2: suspension at Michigan. We heard it was going to be four, right,

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Speaker 2: and then Harbaugh and his guys couldn't agree with it. Right.

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Speaker 2: Then it was none. Now it's back to three. The

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Speaker 2: NCAA has always been fairly toothless. They depend on the

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Speaker 2: reporting of newspapers and media to up end programs. They

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Speaker 2: really don't have the ability, very rarely, the staffing or

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Speaker 2: And now with name, image and likeness, what's cheating. Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: can be a difficult personality. He's strong willed, he's forceful,

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Speaker 2: I think in the end, this is probably self imposed

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Speaker 2: three game suspension is probably those are weak games. Michigan

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Speaker 2: old roll. The big picture is it. Harbaugh's just not

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Speaker 2: somebody you can push around. When his athletic director a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago asked him to take a pay cut,

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Speaker 2: what did he do to the staff? Interviewed with NFL

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Speaker 2: teams and has had back to back great seasons. So big,

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Speaker 2: willful personalities are not to be eft with. And Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: the toothless NCUBA, I will always defend these coaches. They

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Speaker 2: NC DOUBLEA deal with boosters. Yes, they're highly compensated, but

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Speaker 2: there's a reason they're highly compensated. They create ninety one

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Speaker 2: Michigan's athletic department has been revamped due to Jim Harbaugh's

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Speaker 2: recent success. There's a total momentum shift, there's a total

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Speaker 2: of Jim Harbaugh. I think the self imposed penalty is

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Speaker 2: time and time again. Don't try to push around Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: He's going to have a strong opinion. Another story, Jen Cohen,

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Speaker 2: the highly capable athletic director at the University of Washington,

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Speaker 2: has taken the job at USC. Several years ago, a

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Speaker 2: I didn't know him. I wrote down six or seven

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Speaker 2: One of them was Jen con at Washington, highly capable,

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Speaker 2: and so now she finally gets the USC job. They

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Speaker 2: have wanted Gen Cohen for years. The challenge Jen Cohen

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Speaker 2: will face is one that Pete Carroll never had to face.

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Speaker 2: LA is now the economy's never been bigger because of

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Speaker 2: The market wasn't nearly as distracted. The Lakers were great,

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Speaker 2: The Clippers were a doormat. The Clippers are now viable.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers are still viable. The Dodgers have never been

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Speaker 2: people in southern California. People travel more, have second homes,

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Speaker 2: some third It's harder to get people into the coliseum.

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Speaker 2: That's why they shrunk the profile of it. They dropped

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Speaker 2: realized it they weren't going to fill it anymore. They

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Speaker 2: also realized they had to go big on the coach.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just that Clay Hilton was struggling. They had

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Speaker 2: like ann Arbor, Austin, Texas. California is the biggest economy

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Speaker 2: there's just a lot to do here ninety minute drive

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Speaker 2: north or south. I think Jen Cohen's struggles will be

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Speaker 2: things that have culturally changed in the city. A more

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Speaker 2: to choose Saturday or Sundays. You know, if you're in

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Speaker 2: You don't get Saturday or Sunday, and so now you have,

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Speaker 2: you know, justin Herbert Matt Stafford Rams Chargers games. There's

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Speaker 2: with name, image, likeness, money. Is that you're asking boosters

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Speaker 2: a lot of distractions. This is not the biggest game

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Speaker 2: I think Jen Cohen and anybody running USC. It's a challenge.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it can't be accomplished, but asking for money,

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Speaker 2: so many other options. The new movie Grand Tuismo is

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Speaker 2: based on an unbelievable true story about a team of

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Speaker 2: unlikely underdogs. A struggling working class gamer, a failed race

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Speaker 2: in the world. It's a great, compelling story. It's some

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Speaker 2: they are recreated through the use of actual Nissan gts

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Speaker 2: and practical effects. It's really cool. It's really a movie

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Speaker 2: that needs to be seen on the big screen. A

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Speaker 2: pack story that proves that nothing in life is impossible.

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Speaker 2: Grand Turismo based on a true story, exclusively in movie

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Speaker 2: this Thursday. Get your tickets today. Read in PG. Thirteen.

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Speaker 2: All Right, you know him, you have to. It's essential.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Clark, senior football writer, analyst at The Ringer, host

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Speaker 2: of the Slow News Day podcast, a friend of the Herd.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna throw something at you. Years ago. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure who said this. It could have been Jerry Seinfeld.

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Speaker 2: He talked about He called it the comedy jet Stream, Seattle, Minneapolis, Boston,

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Speaker 2: places where the weather's lousy because life's too easy. It's

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Speaker 2: life's too easy in Miami, Tampa and Phoenix, right, it's

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Speaker 2: always sunny. And so I've always had a little bit

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Speaker 2: Chicago's had multiple options in their franchise history to draft

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Speaker 2: But that's my theory on the Bears inability to land

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Speaker 1: I buy it? First of all, do you know who

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Speaker 1: the single season passing leader is the Chicago Bears all

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Speaker 1: So there is a high floor here. I interviewed Justin

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Speaker 1: put more pressure on you the fact that there have

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Speaker 1: been these big misses and they passed on Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, all these guys who could have been quote

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Speaker 1: He said to me that, however high the fans expectations

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Speaker 1: I think that people say, oh, well, Luke gets you

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Speaker 1: guys like Bond Millwerre we shouldn't have. And so if

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Speaker 1: I'm the Bills, I'm standing pat. I'm doing everything I can.

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Speaker 1: I'm putting in it on Josh Allen to make it work.

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Speaker 1: Everybody needs to be happy because Stefon Diggs is a

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Speaker 1: type of talent you have to have if they're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly in the AFC, where Calvin Ridley now in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, he'll be one hundred and twenty catch guy.

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Speaker 2: I just view the NFC so much differently than he'll

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Speaker 2: cuff see, like Jared Goff would get lost in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: I look at him and I think I've seen him

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Speaker 2: go toe to toe with Mahomes on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 2: There will be Sundays. He's absolutely the best quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the NFC. Absolutely, And it's like, so when people say

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Speaker 2: to you buying too Detroit, I'm like, kind of there's

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Speaker 2: a lot. He's like, yeah, GoF so let's talk about them.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, I was saying to Jason McIntyre today,

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Speaker 2: I said, one of the things I have such great

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Speaker 2: sympathy for young people is I was very lucky in

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Speaker 2: my career. I got a couple of great first bosses.

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Speaker 2: Let me make mistakes, let me grow. Jared Goff was

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Speaker 2: a bust with Fisher and then got to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: His career was over like it was done with Fisher.

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Speaker 2: He didn't know east from west, where the sun set.

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Speaker 2: It was like embarrassing when he was on hard knocks.

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Speaker 2: And I always think to myself in basketball, in soccer

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Speaker 2: or basketball, talent is talent. Kobe would have found a

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Speaker 2: home if he stayed in Charlotte. They didn't trade him

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Speaker 2: right like he was too good international soccer, there's not

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Speaker 2: many messies you'd find a club. So I look at

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Speaker 2: Goff and I think to myself, we're undervaluing him. He

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Speaker 2: was a number one pick. He throws one of the

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Speaker 2: best deep balls in the league. At the end is

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Speaker 2: he got two hundred and forty throws without a pick.

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Speaker 2: It's something absurd, like where do you land with golf?

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Speaker 1: I'm higher on him than most people. I didn't I

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Speaker 1: want to build Simmons podcast this time last year, and

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Speaker 1: Brad Holmes said to me, Jared Goff is not a

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Speaker 1: stop gap, and people were killing me in the quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the Twitter mentioned say, no he's not. They're gonna tank,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get you know, they're gonna get Bryce. They're

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Speaker 1: in the sweep six cans. And I promise you guys,

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Speaker 1: they want to add quarterback last. They'd rather be like

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Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Eagles type team where they build the stacked

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Speaker 1: roster and let the quarterback developed kind of later, and

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Speaker 1: then they're ready to go in year two of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback in three or four years. I really like Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know you mentioned, you know, situation matters.

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Speaker 1: I've always said that's about the quarterack position. Geography is

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Speaker 1: destiny man like Drew Brees ending up in New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: that was written in the stars, Patrick Mahomes ending up

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City like that. This stuff matters. This stuff matters,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid solved each other's problem. Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: couldn't finish the big game because of clock management. Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes said, I will put you on my back and

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Speaker 1: make sure that never happens again. I win two Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls late in the fourth quarter. It does not matter

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Speaker 1: right for me. Jared Goff executes the offense. That's the

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Speaker 1: one thing we always overlook. When I was on my

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Speaker 1: camp trars talking to guys, and you hear things about

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Speaker 1: like Desmond Ritter, You, I don't think that highly desnim Ritterer.

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Speaker 1: But guess what he can do. He can run on

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Speaker 1: the Smith's offense and then that's a pretty good floor.

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Speaker 1: He can hit these blind throws. He can just fire

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Speaker 1: it in there. Coaches love Kirk Cousins. They just love

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. And when Kirk Cousins is available after this year,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of Shanahan treated guys

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Speaker 1: spending a lot of money to get him in that building. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is another one where coaches just love the effect.

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Speaker 1: He can just fire a ball and they can run

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Speaker 1: the offense. Jared Goff ran Ben Johnson's offense. Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: is one of the best young offensive coordinators of football,

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Speaker 1: one of the best play callers, and he will be

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Speaker 1: one of the best head coaching candidates this time next

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Speaker 1: year if he wants to leave, and the fact he

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Speaker 1: can do that, the fact he can take advantage of

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Speaker 1: the talent there. Brad Holmes is very quickly a very

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Speaker 1: good roster. I didn't love the draft, but it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Someone the other day in the NFL coumped Dan Campbell

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Speaker 1: to somebody thought was funny. They said, he's got the

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Speaker 1: chance to be Midwest poor Man's Mike Tombin, which is

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Speaker 1: tough team every single year, always competing. Maybe in Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell's case, especially with the quarterback, there's a ceiling. They're

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Speaker 1: probably not gonna win fourteen games, but you know what

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Speaker 1: else they're again not gonna do going forward. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna win four they're gonna win a bunch of games

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Speaker 1: not supposed to. They're always going to be competitive. They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna quit. They're gonna have an identity. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's the most interesting thing about this Lions team.

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Speaker 1: And Jared Goff is a part of that. There are

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Speaker 1: guys in this Lions team who were not wanted elsewhere

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Speaker 1: and they turned that into something. Jared Goff is that

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Speaker 1: I think one day, yeah, like if they're able to

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Speaker 1: get trade up and get a Drake may somebody like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know someone like Riley Leonard, you know, with

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Speaker 1: pick twenty or something. Next year, maybe we're talking about that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think they're in any rush. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because last year when I started to

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Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, he said that the rebuild and the teardown

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Speaker 1: in the first year was almost accidental. And he called

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Speaker 1: the first year of the HVAC year and the second

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Speaker 1: year of the chandelier here okay, and the third year

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Speaker 1: now is okay. We've got the house. We've got the house,

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Speaker 1: and now they're going to try to figure out what

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Speaker 1: that is. I guess what. Jared Golf still in the

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Speaker 1: house because he belongs in the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yes he need He's better in a dome. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he's not great in a muddy pocket. Folks, it's the

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Speaker 2: for years and years I defended Russell Wilson, and I

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Speaker 2: was hard on Pete Carroll. I said Pete's tone, deaf,

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Speaker 2: let's run on first and second, throwing third and five,

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Speaker 2: that he never gave Russell Wilson credit, but to his credit,

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Speaker 2: he moved off him, elevated, kind of resurrected Geno Smith's career,

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Speaker 2: and they've hit home run after home run the last

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Speaker 2: two drafts. What I think is interesting about Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: is like the whole Let's Ride thing. I'm not religious.

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Speaker 2: I'm agnostic. Okay, I've always been agnostic. I didn't grow

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Speaker 2: up in a traditional church, and so not that I'm

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Speaker 2: turned off by religion. I try to be open minded,

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Speaker 2: but it can be a tad cringe e and judgmental

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Speaker 2: to me. But when I hear that Russell Wilson is inauthentic,

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Speaker 2: I think, hold On Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, and Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson have deep religious conviction, and I think they're all

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Speaker 2: authentic to who they are. I think they've given their

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Speaker 2: life up they believe to religion. I find Cousins incredibly

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Speaker 2: likable on that Netflix special, and I really do think

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Speaker 2: this is who Russell is. He's just he's just insanely optimistic.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's so much snark media people see

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Speaker 2: it as inauthentic, and it's like, no good people who

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Speaker 2: are highly optimistic they still exist and one quarterbacks the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: That's really who he is. How do you how?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's not cool to be optimistic, right, Derek

571
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Speaker 2: Carr's not cool, It's funnier to be Jim McMahon snarkier.

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Speaker 2: I get Jake Cutler, Aaron Rodgers is cool. Where do

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Speaker 2: you land on Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I spent time with him ilimited amount of time. I've

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Speaker 1: never done, like the two hour long profile or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But he's been on my show a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: I've been some print pieces with him. I think he's

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Speaker 1: an interesting guy. I think that he's got a grand

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Speaker 1: plan of how he've used his life. And I think

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Speaker 1: sometimes players can be kind of turned off by that

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Speaker 1: if they think that there is something beyond the locker

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Speaker 1: room or whatever. But I will say this, first of all,

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Speaker 1: outside interests are frowned upon and in a lot of

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Speaker 1: locker rooms to begin with, right, if you're that's that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, and the one thing you should overemphasize is

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Speaker 1: weight room, study, habits, all that stuff. And from what

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Speaker 1: I understand, Russell Wilson does emphasize those things, and he

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Speaker 1: works his ass off and he always has and I

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Speaker 1: from from what I understand, he's always put ball first, okay,

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Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of the criticisms outside

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Speaker 1: noise that then becomes inside noise or I mean, first

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Speaker 1: of all, obviously there is some tension with the legion

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Speaker 1: of Boom, which has been well documented. But this offensive

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Speaker 1: versus defensive tension on a lot of teams, especially after

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Speaker 1: you go to something as traumatic as that line thing

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Speaker 1: that's just going to linger. I've said this a million times.

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Speaker 1: The amount of fractured locker rooms, the amount of quote

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Speaker 1: unquote distractions in every building that never leak would shock you.

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Speaker 1: You know. Somebody was talking to me the other day

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Speaker 1: actually about the DIGS thing, and I said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the only teams that really get distract there bad teams, right,

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Speaker 1: good teams. You know, the Seahawks I think had two

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Speaker 1: fist fights the week they won the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: everybody just kept it. The only time that matters is

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Speaker 1: when you have a bunch of bad players and they

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Speaker 1: start playing bad and people start to point bitter distractions, right,

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Speaker 1: And somebody from a NFL team called me and said,

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Speaker 1: you are so right, And with somebody from a good

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Speaker 1: team and they said, the amount of times it'll be,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, you won't believe what happened to four

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Speaker 1: in the morning with these three players, and then they

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Speaker 1: win about forty points. Happens all the time, never comes out,

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Speaker 1: never comes out, And so your problems and your distractions

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Speaker 1: only become an issue once you become bad. And that's

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Speaker 1: bad for Russell Wilson over the past twelve twelve months,

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't have the legs hold onto the ball anymore.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the athleticism that he used to, can't

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Speaker 1: go downfield, and so now it becomes, oh, Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: doesn't fit in the locker room because he has an

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Speaker 1: extra office. Or Russell Wilson is going through his own

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Speaker 1: walkthroughs without the coaches, and that's why he's bad. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: He was doing all sorts of weird crap in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: He just got away with it because he played well.

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Speaker 1: That's all that matters. As you've said many times, it's

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Speaker 1: the great winning is the great deodorant quarterbacks, the great deodoran.

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Speaker 1: You play well, everything gets solved and so your voidbles

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Speaker 1: come out more. In Denver, people don't know him, Munia

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Speaker 1: doesn't know him. They're not going to protect him, and

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Speaker 1: so it just comes out now that he's a weirder

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Speaker 1: guy because there's not a fan base that's ready to

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Speaker 1: defend him. I believe Sean Payton is going to help

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Speaker 1: that team. I was looking at some of the numbers.

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Speaker 1: The false start penalties were just ridiculous last year. The

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Speaker 1: pre snaps, the crazy Like, all Sean Payton needs to

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Speaker 1: do is run the offensive more tempo. Get whoever was

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Speaker 1: doing the false starts, get them out of there, or

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Speaker 1: teach them to snap count. One of those two things

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Speaker 1: and you'll be able to win a couple more games.

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Speaker 1: Clock management, decision making. I really do think Sean Payton's

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to fix the Broncos really easily. And

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Speaker 1: then the assumption then is that Russell Wilson at least

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Speaker 1: gets fixed at alongside.

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Speaker 2: Seven Clark senior football rid analyst the Ringer. Finally, there's

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Speaker 2: always a bad team that has a good year. Mine's Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I think they're front seven's really good defensively, Frank Reich

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Speaker 2: has made Andrew Luck, Philip Rivers, Carson Wentz very quickly

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Speaker 2: more efficient. I think Bryce Young's really smart and will

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Speaker 2: adapt very quickly. Small ceiling lower, really bright, high school

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Speaker 2: college figure stuff out. Wonky Division. Caroline is going to

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Speaker 2: be a wild card playoff team. That's my bad team.

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Speaker 2: That's better than you think.

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Speaker 1: Give me yours right division, wrong team. So, first of all,

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Speaker 1: the NFC South has the easiest schedule in football. Okay,

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Speaker 1: by far, the Saints are like lapping the field with

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Speaker 1: easy schedule by Vegas win total. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons who are right behind them. In easy schedule,

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Speaker 1: but are a better team, better coaching staff, better infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: more talent. Jon Robinson is a portal towards actual positionless football,

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Speaker 1: which Arthur Smith wants to build. Desmond Radder, as I

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Speaker 1: said earlier, can execute the offense. There's talent everywhere. They

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Speaker 1: took their medicine with dead cap charges, which a lot

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Speaker 1: of good teams will been able to do. In the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. They basically flushed the entire roster

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Speaker 1: and all the cap problems. So I'm expecting a huge

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Speaker 1: jump forward. I think Arthur Smith and his schemes won't

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Speaker 1: talk about a floor. His schemes and the stuff that

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Speaker 1: he's able to do with his offense that should get

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Speaker 1: you seven to eight wins by itself. The way he

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Speaker 1: runs the offense kind of what we're talking about Zach

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Speaker 1: Taylor like, he just understands how this goes, and so

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Speaker 1: now there's confidence there. I like them. I like them more.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, the track record for rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: going with winning seasons is actually quite low. I was

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Speaker 1: looking to some gambling numbers over the past couple of days.

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Speaker 1: It's not a great track record. Des Murder being in

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Speaker 1: his second year, maybe I like that a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young, I love the guy, but him just adjusting

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Speaker 1: to the league, the offensive line, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I just have more questions there, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take an extra year.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Clark, it's a pleasure. It's night where you're at

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Speaker 2: it is. We just got through in La yesterday, earthquake,

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Speaker 2: tornado warnings, and a tropical storm.

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Speaker 1: It's already sonning. It's already sonning there. You'll be happy

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Speaker 1: to know. This is the first media I have ever

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Speaker 1: done after putting my son to bed, and so I

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Speaker 1: was all dressed. I had the shirt on under this

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Speaker 1: blazer thing. But spit up, nothing but spit up. And

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Speaker 1: so that's a lesson learned. I will now be by

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Speaker 1: begetting my uh my, my, my media outfit on after

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Speaker 1: Teddy Clark goes to bed.

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Speaker 2: Good seeing your buddy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, and it tipped out. H h. The volume