1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: We're back and guess what. It's officially NBA Clutch Week 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: and we'll be discussing some all time clutch moments and performers, 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: obviously the latest with k D and the Nets, among 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: many many other things, with the hosts of Hardwood Knocks 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: and Bleacher Reports damp the Valley pulling up in the clutch. 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Miles and Jack. I'm boom. Whoa. I think we Oh, 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: we kind of kilded on that one. Sink on that one. 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna nailing nail then, oh man, let's welcome 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: our guests, damp a Valley. You are lifelong lifelong Knickspan, 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: not lifelongs Nick fan, but lifelong Knicks fan. Welcome to 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: the show. Dan, a lifelong Knicks fan who said we 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: would never make it to episode twenty one of this show. Well, 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: who's laughing now? Damn? Exceeding expectations in the face of 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: birthday and my criticism the utmost diversity, Dan, where are 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: you coming to us from? You You're out in New York. 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm on Long Island, New York. So please don't hold 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: that against me. If you'd be so kind but a 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: strong island. Yeah, I honestly I hate it here. It's expensive, 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: it's not really nice. Um. If I didn't have like 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: family ties, I wouldn't be here right now. Got you, 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: got you? Got you? Uh? So does your family ties 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: have something to do with you your lifelong Nicks dum 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: fandom or is that just where you like grew up 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: in a Knicks house or you kind of the first 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: of your of your kind in your home. So I 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: grew up in a household where no one likes sports, 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: but I had some like extended family members that like 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: brought me into Knicks fandom. So I clearly don't talk 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: to them anymore for the havoc that they've breaked upon 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: my life. But that's how I got I got into it. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: But the other people in my household were smarter. You 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: seem like a young man. So when did you start 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: being a Knicks fan? Like? What what was your era? Uh? 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: My era was like those late nineties Knicks like the 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Some of my fondest memories are like that nine team 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: that was the eight seed and uh managed to get 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: out of the East. Um. But I'm like, I remember 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: watching it so young where I didn't understand the game 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: or like percentages or anything, and getting so mad that 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan would never miss. Like it was that type 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: of like fast the AGAs at and like that was 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: a fun time to watch though, because it felt like 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: it was so unfair and the deck was always stacked 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: against your team because he would just never miss. It 46 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: was like that kind of experience. Yeah, that was the 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: I think the fun part as a kid watching and 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: having no concept of how good he was and like 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: and when he shoots it, he makes it kind of 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: like my mindset watching him, like yeah, and that just 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: happens because it was the last dance. Was great for 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: that for me because like I didn't understand what was 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: happening in those like those later years, like all the 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: drama behind the scenes, and like to sort of be 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: able to see that was super cool and it made 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: me think, like they had social media back then, that 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: team would have been like the most polarizing thing that 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: we've ever seen in the end probably has um. Yeah, 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: just just looking at the way Lebron was was treated, 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: I just learned some of my good friends were Lebron 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: haters in the early days. I'm not not pointing any 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: fingers look, I'm salty because I also graduated class of 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: two thousand three, and he said a very high bar 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: for me. I was like, man, I thought I would 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: be the coolest person to oh three, and meanwhile it's 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: one of the greatest athletes of all time. It's such 67 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: a juvenile way of thinking though too. You know, you're like, well, 68 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: who's in my grade? So I'm not saying I was 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: a fully formed adult with that opinion. I was a tiny, 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: tiny child based on who I thought I was. But yeah, 71 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I graduated in ninety nine. I couldn't 72 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: believe he was already better than me. It was like, 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: come on, many like this eighth grader is killing it anyway, 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: But let's talk about what's happening. You know. I think 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the big news, uh, Kevin Durant, the Brooklyn Nets. They 76 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: have agreed to remain together make this thing work. This 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: is why I was distracted before we started recording, because 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: we started having the conversation. Wait a second, so, Katie Kyrie, 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: you put four shooters around Ben Simmons, which was always 80 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: my dream as a Sixers fan in the early stages 81 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: of the Ben Simmons experiment. I don't know, man, I 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: started getting excited about Ben so as I started looking 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: up some likeen articles about Ben Simmons, you know, like 84 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: when he was like winning Rookie of the Year and 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: the Sixers were winning sixteen in a row while Embiid 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: was hurt, I was I was flying high. Uh, nothing 87 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: could stop us. So I don't know that that excites me. 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: The Nets are probably the team I root for the 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: most after the Sixers, just because I want to see 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: them succeed. I want to see Kadi succeed for the 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: same reason I wanted to see Lebron succeed, because because 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: you like him. I like him. I like watching him 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: play basketball is the thing. Now, what is it about him? 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: Because he's so smooth with it? Dan, how do you 95 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: feel about them? Well? Is it you think this is 96 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: just something on paper? You think it's there's some potential there. Yeah, 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Like they're if they're gonna stay together, their highest end 98 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: outcome is win the title. That team is talented and 99 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: this is the best defensive team just because Ben Simmons 100 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: is there. They've put around during the Katie era. Um, 101 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm probably just I'm a little bit more worried about 102 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: the offensive fit than anything aside from health that's combustible 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: and everything. But Ben Simmons is we've never really seen 104 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: him set a ton of screens or do anything like 105 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: in the dunker spot. And if you're taking the ball 106 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: out of his hands, how are you going to use them? 107 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: And if you're putting the ball in his hands like 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: you are taking out of Kyrie and Kat's hands, and 109 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: they they are super malleable. But I'm not a big 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: supporter of anything that begins with, well, if you take 111 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: the ball out of Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving's hands, right, So, 112 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: I actually I feel like offense is more complicated, even though, um, 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: like you said, like they do have a ton of 114 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: shooting around Ben Simmons, which is what we've been waiting 115 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: for for over a half decade. At this point, um, 116 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: it feels like, I guess the best way I could 117 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: frame it is there the team. I could see them 118 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: winning the title, but this also feels like it could 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: be a play in team. And so they they have 120 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: like the most bizarre range of outcomes of any team 121 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: in the league right right, because it feels like it 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: is a lot hinges on a lot of things coming together. 123 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: It's like well, if every single player plays like this, 124 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: if Warren comes out of you know, playing like he 125 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a bubble, then you're like, oh yeah, maybe, yeah, 126 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: you got something. I'm so I want to I want 127 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: to see the health reports on him, because how did 128 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: he get signed at the minimum? I was like, I 129 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: would have just thrown a one year a bunch of 130 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: money at him because he was so good in the bubble. 131 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: He was just absolutely tearing it up. Um, so like 132 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: that was a great flyer. I'm also just skeptical. And 133 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: you guys can tell me if I'm an idiot here, 134 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: But Katie's asking for Steve Nash and Shawn Marks to 135 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: get fired. That's very public, and then all of a 136 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: sudden it's just super cool and everyone's just still together. 137 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: I just I remained a little bit skeptical that this 138 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: pans out for the entire year. Yeah, I mean that 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: makes sense. You're you're just asking about like we've never 140 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: really seen it. For Ben Simmons watched that sixteen game 141 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: winning streak. My friend from his rookie season dialing dialed in. 142 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: My friend, I think I, for one, you know, I 143 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: was counting on this trade to create a lot of 144 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: movement of other players and see what's happening things would 145 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: be very exciting. I'm also curious now, like with all 146 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: the teams that were geared up to make a play 147 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: for Kevin Durant, what kind of permutations are we looking 148 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: at now? Like yet, what what other things can we see? 149 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Probably Donovan Mitchell's the biggest thing that's moving. Yeah, I'm 150 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: wondering if the Knicks will have like actual competition aside 151 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: from themselves for his services, just like if you were 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: involved in the Katie sweepstakes And I don't know that 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: there are a ton of teams that would want Donovan 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: Mitchell after missing on Katie, but like the Raptors or uh, 155 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the Heat if they're like they've been tangentially mentioned to 156 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: Dono Mitchell's, Like do any of these other teams like 157 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: trying up their offers for that or does this still 158 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: leak into the regular season? But I am expecting, like 159 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Pat Bev kind of alluded to this on Twitter, like 160 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: does the free agents that are left, I'm assuming like, oh, 161 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: we'll see a resolution of what's going on with Colin 162 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Sexton unless the Calves are waiting on a Mitchell deal. Um, 163 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: maybe we'll see something with you know, Dennis Shrewder At 164 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: this point, I think the biggest team to watch um, 165 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: or maybe the two biggest teams is like, do the 166 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Suns maybe finally like someone else? And then the Lakers 167 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 1: have been kind of sitting on this kyrie that offer 168 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: with Russ and two picks forerever do they explore other 169 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: avenues of trade. I saw that they were mentioned that 170 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: they were interested in reuniting with Dennis Shrewder, and so 171 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: I do think the movement picks up here. But there's 172 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: also probably the element of some of these teams might 173 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: still be waiting to see where Donovan Mitchell lands too. Right, 174 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: there's like a potential Pacers Lakers deal. Is that a 175 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: thing that could happen? Um? I feel like Lakers fans 176 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: make a lot of noise about like, well, there's just 177 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: like some there's some interest in Russ and the Russ 178 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,119 Speaker 1: contract and the it's been it's become the Russ contract 179 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: at this point, that's the business paper. Well, yeah'd be 180 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: two first round picks and Buddy healed to Miles Turner 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: and I know, like last season a lot of people 182 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: were like, we need Buddy, Hell, we don't need Russ. 183 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: But you know, hindsight, how's eighties health looking? Like? What 184 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: do we what are we see him from him this offseason? 185 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: That's my that's my big question for the Lakers. It's 186 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: the off season. So he gained ten pounds of muss 187 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: old single digit body fat. At this point, it is 188 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: ready to go, like we're in We're in August, so 189 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: that's got to be the status. Would you guys give 190 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: up two first round picks for that trade if you're 191 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers, because Lakers Twitter is like very much against it. 192 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: They think Miles Turners like worth a kind of good 193 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: second rounder at this point for some reason which I 194 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: don't understand. Yeah, it's just a lot of future to 195 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: give up. It's hard to know. Like we're sticking with Lebron, 196 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: what's our like long term plan. I'm really curious because 197 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I know we were all about winning now, but the 198 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: follow years I can definitely see those on the horizon 199 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: years and I'm like, well, okay, that's that's uh, that's 200 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: our new reality. Yeah, I feel like something's got to change. 201 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: I could talk myself into like Miles Turner could be 202 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: like a Wiggins type reclamation project for the Lakers and 203 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: then suddenly, like the Lakers are looking good and like 204 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: a D he comes back and he's healthy. This is 205 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: why I love the off season as somebody who only 206 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: looks at like the positive. The only thing I route 207 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: against and the NBA is the haters, which is part 208 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: of the reason I root for like k D and 209 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: Kyrie to like do something just like I'm rooting against 210 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: the people who are like, look at this clown like 211 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Like that's that's what I get most 212 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: excited about to seeing the the haters disappointed when Lebron 213 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: or k D or Kyrie like actually succeeds. But that's 214 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: what's great about this time of year is like everything's golden. 215 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: A D s in great shape. We we don't need 216 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: Miles Turner. We don't need to make a trade. We're 217 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: just gonna as the Lakers. We can sit pet I 218 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: think we're sitting on some chips the people are undervaluing. 219 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, Jabari, you're bringing up a 220 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: good point. It's like, if we really think A D 221 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: and Braun are going to be healthy, then why not 222 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: back that to the fullest extent and and just go 223 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: pedal to the metal with it. It's just everything can 224 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: be a bit of a risk. But I think at 225 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: a certain point, like, yeah, why put these pieces together 226 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: and not go for it. I mean, I definitely feel 227 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: that there's part of me that does would be like, 228 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: all right, fine, yeah, okay, Jennie, I see what you 229 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: did there. I know you said you absolutely didn't want 230 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: to do that, but I also see you saying, like, 231 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: we need to win now. M I would trend towards 232 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: that too, And I mean, like, I guess that could 233 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: be a callous, distant way of looking at it, but 234 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm just oh, you have Lebron, and Lebron is still 235 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: like one of the five best players in basketball, Like, 236 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: just do it and you're gonna have to worry about 237 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: the fallout later. And I do think that like Turner, 238 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm I guess I'm like higher on him than consensus, 239 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: but just his like rim protection and then floor spacing, 240 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: pairing out with a D. I think him alone would 241 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: make the Lakers like if a D and Lebron are healthy, 242 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: that inserts them into like a different tier in the 243 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: West than they're in right now. Yeah, I think this 244 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: imaginary deal is worth it for the Lakers to do fantastic. 245 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come 246 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: right back to talk about just some of the top 247 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: clutch plays because it is clutch weak in the NBA. 248 00:11:52,040 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, And we are back, and it's 249 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: time to talk NBA Clutch Week. Great branding for Lebrons agency. Uh, 250 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: but probably probably unintentional spelling is different. Yeah, it's stylish 251 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: amongst Uh. You know the State nerds to be like 252 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as like plutch players, or like 253 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: momentum or you know, it actually equals out over time. 254 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: That's my impression of a State nerd. But I think 255 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: that's simply not true. Uh. And let's give our top 256 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: clutch players of all time guests. First, Dan, how about you? Uh, 257 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: this is like such a cliche, but just what I 258 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: was talking about, you guys at the top of this 259 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: is Michael Jordans. For me, like I don't remember from 260 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: my youth when I was actually young at one time, 261 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: like I don't ever remember him missing. And I think 262 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: one of the earliest like memories I have of understanding 263 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: basketball what was happening was like his shot over Russell 264 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: and like to have that type of moment and to 265 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: go back and look at and read about, like all 266 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: the other shots that he hit earlier in his career, 267 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: before I was understanding what was actually going down. There 268 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: was just something about him where he just had that 269 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: like it factor in those moments. And I don't know 270 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: that there's anyone else in NBA history. I'd rather put 271 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: the ball in the hands than than just Michael Jordan. 272 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what rules we're talking about, either today's 273 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: rules the rules back then. I think it would still 274 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: be him for me. Yeah, I've heard of him. I 275 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: need to go back and watch the tape he's I'm 276 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna watch this clip just to get from it. You said, 277 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: this is over someone named Russell. What's his last name? Russell? Oh, yes, 278 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: this is coming up. Yes, Okay, let me just check this, Okay. 279 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: So it looks like he stole it from someone named 280 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: mal One. Oh, Malone, Okay, number six, Michael, I guess 281 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Russell seconds. That is like that is one of just 282 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: like you know I mean, and and it's also putting 283 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: together like one of the most clutched defensive plays of 284 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: all time with one of the most clutch shots of 285 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: all time from somebody who did it from the start. 286 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: Of their career as a freshman in college to the 287 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: end of their career that I acknowledge because the end 288 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: of his run with the Bulls. Yeah, Jordan's Jordan's a 289 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: good one. I did not see that one coming. I'm 290 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: not gonna lie I did it. Uh wow. So I 291 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to go first. I wanted someone else to 292 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: pick him so I could get creative. You know, I 293 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are gonna expect me. I'm 294 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna go Secon about the way. I'm sorry about that. 295 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna expect me to say 296 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Robert Ory because he's our best his best friends. I'm 297 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: gonna go Lebron James because huh have you guys heard 298 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: of Lebron? I think? And I get a second to 299 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: google yah, one sec one Secon because coming into the league, 300 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: everybody was mad at him for not always taking the 301 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: big shot and sometimes passing it to a obscenely wide 302 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: open teammate while while being mobbed by three people, and 303 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: everyone was like, that's not how you do it. As 304 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: a look at look at Yeah you got you gotta 305 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: be tough, you gotta be the hero. And throughout his 306 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: career was just a basketball computer that was incapable of 307 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: making the wrong decision with the ball. But then once 308 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: he got dominant enough at scoring like he had that, 309 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: he had that run. Like when he was going to 310 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: the finals every year with the Calves, there was that 311 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: one Toronto series where he was just like you knew 312 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: he was going to hit a game winner every time 313 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: against the Raptors and it just didn't matter, Like he 314 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: just he hit like step backs. He hit one where 315 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: he was just running out of bounds the opposite way 316 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: off one foot, like fading away like and just banked 317 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: it off and it was really like a run that 318 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: I feel like people just because of branding, because when 319 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: he was first coming into the league, he was not 320 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: associated as like a hero ball type. He doesn't get 321 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: brought up as much in these conversations. But I'm gonna 322 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: give it to my you know, I'm not his best friend, 323 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: but we're pretty tight, so I'm gonna yeah, my very 324 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: good friend, Lebron James. Well, I'm a good friend and 325 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: a loyal Laker fan, so I would There's only one 326 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: person for me, and that's Robert keith Ory. But there 327 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: is something when I look at these clutch shots. There's 328 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: also something that I have a good feeling about Ray 329 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Allen as well, because I think about that corner three 330 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: in Game six of the Finals, the forced overtime, and 331 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: the manner in which he has to score, like to 332 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: get that shot off is I feel like the definition 333 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: of clutch, Like are you so locked in that you're 334 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: like scrambling to get your feet right, your everything right, 335 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: and then you still get the shot off and make it. 336 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: There's something to me about that too that I'm like, Damn, 337 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: that feels like a truly like one of these just 338 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: like things where you're like, oh, you gotta go out 339 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: of body to coordinate everything to get that done. So 340 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: out of loyalty, respect, Robert Keith Thori honorable mentioned ray Alan. 341 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: James Catchers puts up the three don't go blocks that 342 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: catch such it's not on a time. I also gotta 343 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: give it up to Joe Johnson, who's not necessarily somebody 344 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: who is on the same level as these folks, but 345 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: like did have an absurd run there for a while 346 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: where he was just like get him the ball, get 347 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: out of his way. Mr. Also, what about block what 348 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: about the defensive side clutch defense? I mean, that's another 349 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: argument for Lebron. Super producer Jabari put together a list 350 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: of like the biggest like clutch blocks, and he's on 351 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: here twice. One for a black guy had forgotten but 352 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: when he blocked Splitter coming down the lane, he came 353 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: off of Kauai and blocked Splitter violently. But then of 354 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: course he has the most famous clutch block of all time, 355 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: has chased down a biggy. But yeah, the Splitter dunk 356 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: is just pretty dope focker video to shoot great paths 357 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: from Carter splitting the Dolts. Okay, so Splitters, this is 358 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: the great block that's truly broke watching that. Yeah, Yeah, 359 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: it's like it was almost as if like if Lebron 360 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: wasn't there, if you're able to like photoshop him out, 361 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: you'd think he tried to dunk on an invisible wall, 362 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: like he just all forward progress stops at Lebron. He's 363 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: like here it goes. No. We We've had some pretty 364 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: great chase downs of late, but like that chase down, 365 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: it is at another level for like a defensive highlight 366 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: that that chase down block and the whole finals like 367 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: puts him on another level. Where did he come from? 368 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: You can watch a three hour highlight film of him 369 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: doing that people every his career, just coming out of nowhere. 370 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: You see him change his feet a little bit where 371 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: he goes, oh wait, nope, you have to readjust because 372 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take off for a block now, best chase 373 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: down blocker of all time. It's really a shame it 374 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: happened in those jerseys that moment. I know that's just 375 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: time topic, but such a kind of point. Yeah, people 376 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: don't talk enough about how bad those jerseys were that, Like, 377 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Cabs had some dope jerseys throughout their career, 378 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: like those blue and orange ones. Those are sick. You 379 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: don't like the kind of T shirt one most of all. 380 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know what. I don't know what people 381 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: were thinking about that. Those were just they couldn't even 382 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: make them, at least make them like creative in the 383 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: design if you're gonna have them more T shirts, but 384 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: they were just so plain and hideous. Like that was 385 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: just the Christmas Day Do you remember those Christmas Day 386 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: uniforms to that year? That was just atrocious. Yeah, this 387 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: is more. Less is more, folks. We had a rough 388 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: run there for a little while where the almost T 389 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: shirt was like like a trend someone was chasing right. 390 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: What about you, Dan, do you have a favorite clutch 391 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: defensive play, favorite clutch player clutch shot Like we didn't, 392 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: we didn't really dig in on clutch shot. Uh. If 393 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to go full Homer for this, I think 394 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: my favorite clutch shot of all time is either between 395 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Lj's four point play against the basers or that um 396 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: Alan Houston shot on the heat where it bounces off 397 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: the back rim and then like drops in with pointing 398 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: seconds left about we all up, but only four seconds 399 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: to shake and four point five left to my game. 400 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: That was not a good step and Knicks have to 401 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: get themselves two champs is to tie or win the 402 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: ball game four seconds. Fan Guandi calls a play a 403 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: triangle that usually means something for you. Dumps under lap. 404 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: I remember watching it hit like the back room like 405 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: that going up and like my heart probably had to 406 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: had to stop. So it was two moments we are 407 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: being the deadly disenchanted Knicks fan and I am Those 408 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: two stand out just Yeah, you were clinically dead for 409 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: that little space when I was young enough to still 410 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: have hope. Yeah, that's what made it so exhilarating, is 411 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: that the biggest four point play, like in terms of clutch, 412 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: I feel like there's gotta be Crawford has to have 413 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: one of them, right, Yeah, yeah, he was. He was 414 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: an artist of it, But like that was at a 415 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: time when I feel like four point players were. It 416 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: was like a triple play in baseball. It was like 417 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: it never happened, you know, And now like people I 418 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: feel like they're there are the four point play artists 419 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: who like figured out how to draw the foul and 420 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: get it to go pretty regularly. But that that truly 421 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: felt like an anomaly. That was like one of those 422 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: NBA plays that I feel like stopped everything when when 423 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: it happened, I lost my mind when he hit that shot. 424 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: And then years later and even now I think about 425 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: I remember I interviewed him about it once and I 426 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: don't remember his response because it was when I first 427 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: started in the industry, but I was like, how do 428 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: you go and then just hit a free throw? After that, 429 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: like like I'm watching and I lost my mind, And 430 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: so I just couldn't believe that he went and then 431 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: was able to hit that free throw. Still, I guess 432 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: that's why he's the professional basketball player, right, Yeah, there's 433 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: some damn shots that felt like there were a couple 434 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: of years there that similar to what I was talking 435 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: about with Lebron when it was just like he couldn't 436 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: be stopped by anyone that was coming out of the 437 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference in the in the playoffs, and he was 438 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: going to hit a game winner. Dame has had like 439 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: some some games in particular in the playoffs, but just 440 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: it truly felt like out of body, uncanny valley stuff 441 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: that I don't have any like queued up, but true 442 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: pretty well stuff. Yeah, I mean Dame ended, okay, see, 443 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: didn't kind of like end that Dwight Howard Houston era too, 444 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: Like he just like ended entire windows with his shots 445 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: hitting that side step three from the logo like which again, 446 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: like the LJ thing, feels a little bit more common now, 447 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: but at the time was like, how's he shooting from 448 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: out there? Like that? Like, Yeah, so in modern times, 449 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: active players, who are you picking now to take your 450 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: last shot? I think this might actually be an unpopular pick. 451 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: I would go with Steph I think in part because 452 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: he has one of the most brazen like game winners 453 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: in memory, like that mid February game and okay, see 454 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: it was on a Saturday night. He just pulls up 455 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: from basically half court in overtime, and just like the 456 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: audacity that he has, I would go, I would Scott 457 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: a Demon game. That was my favorite tweet from that 458 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: live Someone was like, steps got a demon. That's it. 459 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: I've never seen that and that's spectacular. Yeah, that was 460 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: so cool. They do have a time out, decide not 461 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: to use a Curry quite dot shop Curry what six 462 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: steps in a second reminding what probably is showing a 463 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: stepand Curry continues and he ties the NBA record with 464 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: us twelve three pointer of the games. I think that 465 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: is a Yeah, that's a great point because it's like 466 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: part audacity, part skill, part self belief. But yeah, you 467 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: almost you need to say no, I'm gonna take this 468 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: shot because I see it going in. Yeah, yeah, okay, 469 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm going Vinnie Johnson today. I think I think Vinny 470 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Johnson still got it. Um now, you know Vinnie Johnson. 471 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: We we gotta shout him out for ya back in 472 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: the day, but um yeah, today, I mean we we 473 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: haven't talked a lot about k D. But you know, 474 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: dark Horse p the greatest offensive player to ever play 475 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: the game, might be my pick and Kevin Durant. Do 476 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: you think he's the greatest offensive player, like not even 477 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: just score, just flat out offensive, may be the greatest score. Yeah, okay, 478 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: that's that's a better wade. He said he was about 479 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: like hold on what my god, threw his chair across 480 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 1: the room the zoom screen. Yeah. I think I've been 481 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: such a fan of Damian Lillard. The thing that I 482 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: love is to see players that will devastate the fans too. 483 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: And there is something about some of those shots he's 484 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: hit where I'm like, oh, that must have been terrible 485 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: to be in that arena like and to be on 486 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: the opposite side of that. So I think that one 487 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: game against Houston, I think it was the first round, 488 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: but it was a deciding game against Houston where he 489 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: was playing out of his mind and then got that 490 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: open look and I just remember it was like dead 491 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: silent in Houston and you just heard him do that 492 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: and they threw it right to him and it was 493 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: like you knew, I turned around like before before even 494 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: took the shot, because he just like Harden, had given 495 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: him a little bit too much for him. Speaking of 496 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest, because you were just talking about Portland's 497 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: Seattle had a bit of a treat. The crossover was 498 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: going down over there and they got to see the 499 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: likes of Lebron James, Isaiah Thomas, Jayson Tatum light up 500 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: the court and there are a few highlights that were interesting. 501 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: But the one thing that really blew my mind was 502 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: seeing the line of fans trying to get into the 503 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: gym when they heard Lebron James and Tatum we're gonna 504 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: be playing. Have you seen this then? Yes, I did 505 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: see it. People were calling for him to like move 506 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: the venue now, and he was like, no, I loved 507 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I love Jamal Crawford, I love that, dude. The line 508 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: of people for people haven't seen it. Someone took a 509 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: clip on Twitter, uh, just going down all the people 510 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: waiting to get in, and I'm not joking. It's like 511 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: a minute and twenty second clip that's spun like sped 512 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: up from like maybe a one and a half times 513 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: and people got chairs, people got tense sleeping bags, sleeping pads, blankets, 514 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: Like there's some good tents out there too, some really 515 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: good tents, some really good chairs too. But all this 516 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: to say, I'm like, man, this is all this sort 517 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: of for me just underlines the fact that I'm like, man, Seattle, 518 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: really they deserve a team, Like they need to have 519 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: a team. I was so broken up, even as like 520 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, like part of my idea of what the 521 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: West is is playing the Sonics, and to not have 522 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: that is like a huge hole that I forget is 523 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: there in my bands soul. But to see like the 524 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: people packed that gym out to know, the gym was 525 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: so crowded that like the floor was getting condensation on it. 526 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: You're like, yep, this is the man. I'm like, let's 527 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: let's get them a team. I miss those Sonics jerseys too. 528 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say the color way is missing 529 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: from the NBA that green and yellow, Yeah, green and yellow, 530 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: green or the green and like maroon sort of late 531 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: ladder day Sonics I think, Yeah, they didn't have bad 532 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: jerseys and one of the best names, like you know, right, Yeah, 533 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: just a lot of fun. They need a team. They 534 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: need to be named the Sonics. But yeah, there's a 535 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: there's the fan base for him for sure. Yeah. The 536 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: fans in the Pacific Northwest are just so loyal and dedicated. 537 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like the second any team goes up in 538 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: that area, like the games are sold out, like no 539 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: matter what the sport is, Portland's fan base like rather 540 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: to like they're really into it, like they have one 541 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: of the best like calm court advantage in the league. 542 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, for sure, we had to show up 543 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: there and you could just like ask a cab driver 544 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: about like most towns, like you ask a cab driver 545 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: something about the local NBA team and like you'd like 546 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: maybe gonna get like somebody who who knows anything. In Portland, 547 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: you ask a you ask a cab driver and they 548 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: like no everything. They're like, well, Dame's hurt. But I 549 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: think when he comes back, like we'll give you an 550 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: in depth answer and will like no history about the team, 551 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's dope like that it is an actual culture. 552 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Remember that you were just kind of like, how do 553 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: you feeling about the Blazers and then suddenly like we 554 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: were on this dude's podcast and he is the same 555 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: thing happened when we did a show in Minnesota too. 556 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: I remember when we were driving to the venue to 557 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: the the cab driver we were talking to was just 558 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: going off about the war. He was like, I'm actually 559 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: a Bucks fan, but so much to say and I 560 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: was like, I gotta love it, gotta love it so 561 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: one detail because my first question after it was like, 562 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: well did you put on a show that Lebron put 563 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: on a show for the for the people of Seattle, 564 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: And unfortunately it was a skating rink in there because 565 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: the venue was not ready for that many people in 566 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: a closed in a closed environment. It looked like when 567 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: I would play sock basketball with my friends in socks, 568 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: using a sock to you know, dug it in the 569 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: thing um like that like that. That honestly looked like 570 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: they were sliding around out there, so they I think 571 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: they cut it short. He still had a like a 572 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: couple of dunks and Tatum to Lebron on alleu, which 573 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: was fun to see. But the best moment is him 574 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: just walking through the crowd. Yeah, man of the people. 575 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like the closest it feels like a 576 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: superhero film. Yeah, you know, because he's already, you know, 577 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: he's big, so already he's like towering over all the 578 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: like adoring people. But just like, yeah, the way he 579 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: was moving through and just watching the magnetic energy of 580 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: wherever he was just watching the crowd like slowly drift 581 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: towards him was a very nice moment. For sure. I 582 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: think we need more pro am coverage. I think this 583 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: needs to be the off season of any professional sport, 584 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: but like even more the NBA, because it's so fun 585 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: to watch them against people who aren't NBA players, and 586 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: just like how good that. It's a good level setting. 587 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: You really see how big Lebron James is and how 588 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: fast he is, or even when him playing at half speed, Yeah, yeah, 589 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: to not injure himself. Wow, But yeah, I think that's 590 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: I really love watching that too, because other sports don't 591 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: really give you something like this or like it sort 592 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: of distills these people back down to their essence. It's 593 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: just like Hooper's and they're like where's We're like, where's 594 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: the next game at? And like oh, over there and 595 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: suddenly it's Lebron James, Jayson Tatum, like in this gym. 596 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: Then it's so sweaty and there the floor gets slick, 597 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna get that same kind of interaction 598 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: like with other athletes or fans like that in another sport. 599 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: But I think it's it's so fun to watch because 600 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: it kind of helps me realize how much you love 601 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: the game. And how much they love the game too. 602 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I like the abruptness of it too, like all of 603 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, Jayson Tatum is gonna play in the Cross 604 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: like that was not like I think twelve hours before 605 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: it happened. Like it's cool finding out about stuff like 606 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: that so close to tip off. And then it's like, oh, 607 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: let's get our tent because we're gonna have to sleep 608 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: the time to see them play and then bring that 609 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: level of connection and commitment out from the fans too. 610 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: It's just like beautiful, beautiful. And then sometimes you get 611 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: a little spicy hometown rivalry where it's like, oh, you 612 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: were the best player of the last five years from 613 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: this hometown, and now this is the best player of 614 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: the next five years. May and Paolo you know that 615 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: was that was interesting? Yeah, I don't know, it's fun. 616 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Let's do it up more pro ams and do goofy 617 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: stuff in the pro ams, like you know, four point 618 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: shots and stuff like that. Thank you, all right, let's 619 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: take another quick break. We're gonna be right back for 620 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: the famous rapid fire round of questions. I'm so sorry, 621 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: and we're back, and guess what damn FA value you 622 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: are in the hot seat because it's time for the 623 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: rapid fire round of questions. Holy Calmn. In this case, 624 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: we are asking you a question. Whatever your first responses, 625 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: you're an instinct tells you just give us that. Don't 626 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: think it has to be quick, quick, quick, that's the 627 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: whole point. Question, question, answer, question, answer. Okay, do not 628 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: slow it up with anything. Okay, we could like to 629 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: be really clear about that with the guests up top. Wrap, 630 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: So take my time, take it through, explain it, got 631 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: it exactly, exactly? All right? Right? Oh, first of all, 632 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: well here we go. Start the clock. Okay, now, Jack, 633 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: do you want to go first? I would let you. 634 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: I was just gonna like table put put a notion 635 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: on the table that you started asking that in a 636 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a nicer way because uh, super producer 637 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Jabari and sup producer Brian, I feel like deserves just 638 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 1: a little more respect. They are starting the clock. They 639 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: heard you. You don't need to scream it rude. Please 640 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: begin to countdown, saying you, Uh, okay, so far, we're 641 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: so good. We're staying on track to be one of 642 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: our fastest segments. Uh so, I'm sorry, did you want 643 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: to go first? We didn't. We still didn't work that up. 644 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: I said you could go first, man, Okay, this is 645 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: do you want me to go first? I don't know, 646 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: you're humiliating me in front of the game. Okay, here 647 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: we go. I'm so sorry about that, Dan, rapid fire, 648 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: start the clock, keep the clock going, all right? Keep 649 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: going Dan? Carl Anthony Ounds or Larry Bird in a 650 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: three point competition? Oh god, Carl any towns Wow? Okay, 651 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean controversial take in Boston. I feel like people 652 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: in Boston might not appreciate that. Um, but in any 653 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: other town question. Uh. We do make a little time 654 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: for word play like that little phe We do like 655 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: that get ready boom three point stance? Which team wins 656 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: a postseason series? First? The Nets are the Knicks? The Nets? Okay? 657 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: And so you've totally given up on the Knicks or 658 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: have you given up on the Thibodeaux era? Where where 659 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: are we at with your with your knick? Uh? It's 660 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: I think everything they've done is fine to just be 661 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: in the middle and not win any playoff series at 662 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: this point. And the Nets, at least we just talked 663 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: about them before. There's there's like an outcome where they're terrible, 664 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: but there's an outcome where I'll take that. Yeah, right, okay, okay, 665 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, rapping rappid. Here we go, Dan Pizza style, 666 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: Who's on top? New York Detroit Town? It's it would 667 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: be New York for me. There's a bias there, but 668 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Shy Town Pizza is like a cake. It's just the 669 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: like the so I don't know how it would be then, 670 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: but I've I've never had it. I've heard very good 671 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: things about Detroit Pizza, so oh yeah, okay, they're pant pizza. 672 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: And also follow up question, where's the best slice in 673 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: New York City? Uh, there's this place called like Joe's, 674 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: I think in Rockefeller Center that's like technically underground and 675 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: it's like really, it's the best piece I've ever had 676 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: in my entire I haven't been there in years since 677 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: the pandemic started, but it was just so good. But 678 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: you can't I don't know if you can get a 679 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: bad slice anywhere. And like the heart of New York City, 680 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Joe is also my favorite, and I've never heard anybody 681 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: else go with Joe's really shout yeah, Joe's on h 682 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: I used to live in the West Village right by 683 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: the West fourth Street, stop. That's my favorite plane slice. 684 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I have a favorite Sicilian slice Leaker Street Pizza, but 685 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: my favorite plane slice in New York City is the 686 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: Joe's Plane Slice West Forest Street. Okay, well Jack, the 687 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: question was for Dan, but I let's keep it rapid. Sorry. 688 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm happy that I'm like, not totally incorrect. So and Dan, 689 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that this is not living up to the rapid. 690 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm cool with whatever. You didn't choose the 691 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: wrong Joe's. I just had to say, but that's sorry. Um, 692 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: you make a three to win an NBA Finals game, 693 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: what does your celebration look like? Oh? Man, I'm like 694 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: a spinning leap. Oh and I don't have a vertical, 695 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: so it might just be a spin like a parouette, 696 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: Like you go up? What are you doing? Like a one? 697 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: Can you do a full three six? Do you think 698 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: I would do? I'll try to go for the full 699 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: three sixty. And I'm definitely like injuring a hamstring or 700 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: a calf, like on the way down when I'm landing. 701 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: But that's absolutely what I'm not flexing because that would 702 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: be embarrassing. I'd be very cognizant of that. With cameras 703 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: in front of me. Okay, no one needs to see that. 704 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: What would you do, Jack, I would be I would 705 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: be flexing because I would not be seen in public 706 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: not flexing. I think you know that about me probably 707 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: like I would I just like burst into tears like 708 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: I just won the title, even if it was inappropriate, 709 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: like we didn't say to win the NBA Finals. That's 710 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: in an NBA Finals game, you try an East slide 711 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: on the park. Because we we accept when a player 712 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: starts crying when they win a title, but nobody has 713 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: tested the starts crying when they win a regular season game. 714 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: I would probably drink a fans beer. Yeah, I would grab. 715 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: I would grab in a waif like whoever the opposition 716 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: I grabbed their beer after I hit it, and I 717 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: would just pound the whole thing like I drink your beer. 718 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: I would hope if I'd have an iconic stare like 719 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: how Dame has his, or like even the Tyler heroes there, 720 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to meme made out of my stare or 721 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: after I make that shot. I don't know what face 722 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm making, but I'm hoping if it gets Yeah, but 723 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: it'd be funny if it's like the most awkward face. 724 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: It's like it would be for me, like my probably 725 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: just be my big gass forehead just taking up the 726 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: am hire me with the screen. You know what'sn't underrated. 727 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: It hasn't underrated. Facial expression after a game winning shot. 728 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: Is Vloody when he hit the layup in Game one 729 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: against the Bulls and he ran down the court with 730 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: his hands on his face like and home alone was like, 731 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: oh no, what did I do? Yeah, it's a lot 732 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 1: of fun. I think something like that that's a little 733 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: bit silly would be what I would aspire to. Or 734 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: tears or did you see that one little boy who 735 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: was trying to be like Steph and he literally laid 736 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: down on the court and went good night and laid 737 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 1: on the court like disrespect. I love it. Okay, moving 738 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: on rapid m m uh is it me? It's me 739 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing or David Robinson all time? Oh David Robinson. 740 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: That hurts me. I love Pat, but it's it's David Robinson. Wow. Wow, 741 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to give wanted to give pass some. I 742 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: love Pat, but just go back and watch prime David 743 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: Robinson highlights. That dude was mesmerizing on so may levels. Yeah, 744 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: I'll take Patrick Ewing's kneepads though those things were ginormous. 745 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: Those Yeah, yeah, I love those npads. It's wild though. Two, 746 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: I think maybe I was saying this off Mike. How 747 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: my appreciation for were we saying this on Mike for 748 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: big men completely changed because when I was a kid, 749 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: I had no concept for like people who are kneepads. 750 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you can't be good if you were 751 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: napads out there, And I'm like, these are some of 752 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: the best players we've seen anyway. Moving on, Jack uh 753 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: is Donovan Mitchell in a Knicks jersey when the season starts. 754 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, I think the Knicks are gonna 755 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: like the as We're gonna try and squeeze every acid 756 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: out of the Knicks. They're gonna maintain their ground, start 757 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: the season like four and seven, and then overpay to 758 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: get him. I think that's just how this probably ends. 759 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: And finally, Dan Miles are Jack Oh, I can't you 760 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: both are equally super high on my ladder. You're not 761 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: tricking me on that one. Wow? Huge for me. Everybody 762 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: else has instinctively gone Miles, Uh, this is really uh 763 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: wow that that that means so much to tie on 764 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: this and you're fair, he's if you're a kind god damn. 765 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: And I've made a career out of copying out so 766 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: and I am putting my own idea into motion. I 767 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: am weeping openly. This. This is my friend, my big 768 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: tears off with my jersey, Damn Valley. Thank you so 769 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: much from stopping by on Miles and Jack goot math 770 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: boost teas. Man, Where can people find you and follow? 771 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: Check you out, listen to you and all that? Yeah, 772 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: they can find me in all my nonsense. Just on 773 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: Twitter at dansa Valley f A V A l e 774 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: uh and follow your own risks, but follow perfect uh 775 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: and you know where to find us? I think, right, Yeah, 776 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think I know where to find You're 777 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: at miles of correct. Yeah you're a Jack underscore, O'Brien. 778 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: I knew that. We knew that on Twitter exactly in 779 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: Instagram for me. But thank you all for listening. Guess 780 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: what episodes mony two in the books coming back with 781 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: that MJ on our back like we never left until 782 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: next time. Remember Miles and Jack got mad boosties And 783 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: that's a fact. Been The NBA has endorsed that fact. 784 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: I can get net or could get that