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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jacob Schick and I'm joined by my co host

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Speaker 2: and wife.

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Speaker 1: Ashley Shick.

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Speaker 3: Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm a

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Speaker 3: gold Star granddaughter. And we work together to serve military veterans,

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Speaker 3: first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families with mental

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Speaker 3: and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy.

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Speaker 4: At One Tribe Foundation.

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Speaker 2: We believe everyone has a story to tell, not only

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Speaker 2: about the peaks, but also about the valleys they've been

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Speaker 2: through to get them to where they are today.

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Speaker 3: Each week, we invite a guests to tell us their story,

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Speaker 3: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shaped

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Speaker 3: who they are and what they're doing to pay it

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Speaker 3: forward and give back.

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Speaker 2: Our mission with this show is to dig deep into

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Speaker 2: our guest's journeys so that we can celebrate the hope

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Speaker 2: and inspiration their story has to offer.

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Speaker 4: We're thrilled you're joining us again.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Good Stuff. I am so fired up

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Speaker 2: about our guests today. Three time Super Bowl Champion, five

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Speaker 3: Four time first Team All Pro, Dallas Cowboys, all time

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Speaker 3: leading tackler, and Cowboys' Ring of Honor honoree. He's a father,

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Speaker 3: a husband, a businessman, a mentor, and he's a leader.

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Speaker 1: Our guest today is Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 2: Our good friend is here to tell us the story

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Speaker 2: of growing up in the projects in West side Phoenix, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: and how he became a champion at life.

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Speaker 4: The great Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 3: Oh, welcome to the good stuff, Ashley.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you having me. I don't know so much

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Speaker 5: about this dude over here sitting to my left, that

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Speaker 5: guy guy, and that guy got a little upset because

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Speaker 5: I'll sit at the head of the table.

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Speaker 1: I know I can tell listen.

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Speaker 5: Set his bottles down, he sat his drinks down right

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Speaker 5: here front. I knowingly sat here all the guest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, games have already started and started.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Here we go. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Ready.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I got more mind games than Milton Bradley compliments

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Speaker 2: of states.

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Speaker 5: And I've dealt one of the So you finally got

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Speaker 5: to win.

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Speaker 1: I finally get one win.

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Speaker 4: Exactly what I'm going to let you have it?

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Speaker 3: So relation Darren Woodson father, husband, Dallas cowboy, Alum, you

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Speaker 3: played your entire career the boys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was blessed to just to play with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: and actually I was one of the time. I retired

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Speaker 5: as one of four or players that had never experienced

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Speaker 5: free agency.

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Speaker 1: Wow, never saw it, so no sign.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you were there during the Golden years ninety

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Speaker 3: two to two thousand and four.

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Speaker 5: Yes, ninety two, yes, well, the beginning of those years

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Speaker 5: ninety two through ninety five were really strong years, and

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Speaker 5: then we fell off a cliff right at zero leadership

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Speaker 5: from top to bottom, and we were five eleven five.

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Speaker 1: Were averages average could ever be. It's who we were

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Speaker 5: Until Parcels came in later and that one snapped back

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Speaker 3: It's ironic you say that, because average is not at

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Speaker 3: all what describes you and your work ethic and your

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Speaker 3: story and where you came from. We'll talk about all

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Speaker 3: your accolades in a little bit, but for now, why

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Tell us about Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So I grew up in Phoenix. I was

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Speaker 5: the youngest of four kids. My mom was a single mom.

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Speaker 5: We were project kids, and we grew up in Hintson

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I know who I am based on the

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Speaker 1: work ethic of my mother.

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Speaker 5: She got up every day five twenty five am, every

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Speaker 5: for thirty eight years as a clerk at Akopa County,

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Speaker 1: But Monica ran lead.

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Speaker 5: Made sure we got up in the morning, made sure

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Speaker 5: After school, we had all had to get back on

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Speaker 5: the reason why I'm here right now because of Imcas

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Speaker 1: Yeah, king pong game. Things got a little sideway. Sometimes

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Speaker 5: How I learned how to play football right and know

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Speaker 5: how to play at a high level.

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Speaker 5: But my mom had this process that she instilled in

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Speaker 5: idle hands of the devil's works, you do not if

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Speaker 5: kept us busy and it allowed us. I was the

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Speaker 5: Monica followed me after, but both of us have our

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Speaker 5: college degree. That was the happiest day of my life,

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Speaker 5: wasn't that I got drafted by the Cowboys. Happiest day

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Speaker 4: Well absolutely.

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Speaker 3: How old was Monica when she was given all of

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Speaker 5: She was seven years old. She was that's crazy, man.

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Speaker 5: I used to catch the bus. Oh yeah, I'm serious.

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Speaker 5: My sister was catching the bus like no, not the

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Speaker 1: Bus was it.

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Speaker 5: Transfer, getting the transfer to get on another bus, I

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Speaker 3: So what was it like growing up in that house?

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine your mom working a job or how

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Speaker 4: Two jobs, two jobs to feed five miles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and keeping the lights on, keeping the lights on,

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Speaker 5: And again, look, I had no idea that I was poor, Like,

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Speaker 5: I just thought that this was life.

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Speaker 1: And we lived in such a bubble.

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Speaker 5: And the fact of I didn't go to certain areas,

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Speaker 5: Like I had no idea what Scottsdale.

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Speaker 1: Arizona was until I went to Arizona.

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Speaker 5: State and I was, yeah, it's right down the street,

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Speaker 5: And why does everybody go and those oh, those are

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Speaker 5: I'm twenty five minute drive from Scottsdale.

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Speaker 5: We just lived in this bubble, and I just felt

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Speaker 5: Fathers weren't involved, or fathers were they weren't living in

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Speaker 1: I knew he was.

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Speaker 5: We saw him every once in a while, but he

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Speaker 1: He definitely didn't play an active role. He didn't play

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Speaker 5: But you know, and he had his own issues he

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Speaker 5: But my mother was he played that big of a role.

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Speaker 5: I had the happiest childhood. We played basketball, played every

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Speaker 5: that's the way life was. Yeah, it was simple.

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Speaker 3: When the street lights come on, yeah you better be

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Speaker 5: No, here's the one I this is the time I

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Speaker 5: did realize that I was poor. So again, my sister Monica,

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Speaker 5: I was seven years old. My mom used to play

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Speaker 5: So sometimes electric bill. Sometimes well I can't make that

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Speaker 1: Whatnot. Well, this time the electric bill won. She paid

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Speaker 5: Water bill was off, so we couldn't shower back then

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Speaker 5: it was a bathtub. Later, so my sister, just me

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Speaker 5: and her. She takes me across the street. It is

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Speaker 5: And she had this powder soap and took me across

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Speaker 5: I knew I was poor. I'm walking to the bus

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Speaker 5: all the soap off of me, right, And my buddy says,

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Speaker 5: That was that was my reality, and I didn't know

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Speaker 5: Yeah? There was a time when I got into high

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Speaker 5: I knew I was going to do something, Jake. I

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Speaker 5: Differently, and I know I was different. You woke up

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Speaker 2: I'm oh, yeah, there isn't it. Yep, there isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's this spark right, And it's hard to describe it,

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Speaker 2: You have this unbelievable self conviction already that I think

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Speaker 1: I don't know what limits are. Those are man made.

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Speaker 5: God's going to give you some of that skill set

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Speaker 5: if you want it, you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Go get it. Ye gotta go get it. So nothing's given.

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Speaker 4: And if you didn't have that fire in your gut

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Speaker 2: It yea yeah, then what you gotta have the conviction

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Speaker 3: How did you channel that on your path to life

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Speaker 5: I gotta admit, like, I was really good at certain things,

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Speaker 1: So here is my strength.

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Speaker 5: My strength was you give me the football, or you

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Speaker 1: I really didn't.

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Speaker 5: I knew my sister was highly intelligent, my mom's very

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna make it. We're not gonna give you

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Speaker 5: I ended up going to Arizona State because all the

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Speaker 5: If I would have went to a Juco, I would

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Speaker 1: No on either way, I know, I don't I don't.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because I'm an extremist in a lot of ways. Right,

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Speaker 5: So my mother had a conversation with me, and there

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Speaker 5: You're talking about people that pour into you. That is

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Speaker 4: Dude, don't crying about You're good deeper hey.

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Speaker 1: But gradually for being human.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, Man Baki, don't run from that.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna let you get away with that right here. Man,

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Speaker 5: I know, but look emotionally, he was so special. He'd

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Speaker 5: So my mom and coach Baki had a long conversation

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Speaker 1: You're going to go. And I couldn't play my first year.

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Speaker 5: Right. My entire focus was school. That was it fish

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Speaker 5: Going there because I couldn't be around the football program.

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Speaker 5: So my first year, every Friday, I had to report

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Speaker 1: I'd see players, I see guys that I played with

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Speaker 5: Yeah you can't get right. Right, you get all that athleticism,

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Speaker 1: Right. And see, guys, they give me that little look.

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Speaker 1: And they probably weren't even giving me the look, Jacob,

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Speaker 5: I know I look it that way, right, Yeause, I

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Speaker 5: It just had this chip on my shoulder that I

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Speaker 5: got to get better. I got my first year. I

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Speaker 5: utilized it. But I had nothing. I had nothing. I

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Speaker 5: How about going to school? And Baki helped me in

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Speaker 5: so many ways, like the little things when you go

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Speaker 5: you have time in between, you took notes, rewrite your notes.

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Speaker 1: Like I learned so much.

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Speaker 5: I learned my deficiencies of like I could hear a

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Speaker 5: that's how I learned. I didn't know that's how I learned.

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00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 5: I just figured it out along the way because Baki

444
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 5: told me to do this right, and I overcame so much,

445
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 5: like my confidence in self and just me shot through

446
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 5: the roof once I got those good grades. And then

447
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 5: when I got the okay the season ended, I got

448
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 5: the okay to go.

449
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 1: Everybody stand by to the first day of practice field.

450
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I'm bringing it, everybody. It's you

451
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 5: who called me those days. I'm just making up stuff

452
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 5: in my.

453
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: Own Mind's your eyeboss, look at me. I saw you

454
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: on campus. But I think I just grew so much

455
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: in that one year.

456
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Speaker 5: I mean just because I got knocked down mentally, I was,

457
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 5: you know, but at the same time I had to

458
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 5: fight It's either I crawled up, I fought up out

459
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 5: of that, or I just remained a victim and you

460
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 5: just cried about it. Why blame someone else? The only

461
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 5: person to blame was me. My mom told me, hey,

462
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 5: this ain't on me. She told me, hey, I worked

463
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 5: two jobs.

464
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: Good on her.

465
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Speaker 5: This is on you. Good right and accountability. Account That's right, son. Three.

466
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Speaker 3: Every day we have a choice, yes, every day. And

467
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Speaker 3: I mean that was your tipping point. I just got

468
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 3: chills when you said that, because as soon as you

469
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 3: stepped on that field, well, I mean it was game

470
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: on from there and you had so much to release. Yeah.

471
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're playing football, the school wants you to

472
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 5: be focused on football, like they always tell you're.

473
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 1: A student athlete.

474
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 5: It should be athlete students because honestly, you make You

475
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 5: are a commodity and you make a lot of money

476
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 5: for the school, right, So what do they want your focus?

477
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: They want your focus on the field, right, and.

478
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 5: Just past the class that's it just passed. We have

479
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 5: all these resources who would get you to all this.

480
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 5: You get to see you're playing, right, And my mind

481
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 5: really flipped when I didn't have football, because I started

482
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 5: to think, okay, I'm gonna be competitive on the field,

483
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 5: but I'm also going to be competitive in that classroom, right,

484
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 5: super competitive. And it took me three and a half

485
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 5: years to graduate because I was that competitive. Every summer

486
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 5: I took the maximumount of summer at school classes.

487
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: I didn't go.

488
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 5: I mean I was from Phoenix, I didn't I'm going

489
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 5: to go to West Side, stayed on campus, got my classes,

490
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 5: many classes I could take in the summer, and I

491
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 5: was just like, oh, man, I didn't do anything special.

492
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 5: Lovey Smith was my position coach. He made us all

493
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 5: everyone that was on that position, you didn't go home.

494
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 5: You're from Jersey, New Jersey, or you're from California, you

495
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 5: did not go home any off season. You stayed stayed there,

496
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: and you maxed out summer school. He was so serious

497
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 5: about education, which I just fell on line. I was like, hey,

498
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 5: I wasn't the only one. I didn't do anything spectacular.

499
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 5: Other guys are doing it as well. I just had

500
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 5: a focus. Man. I just didn't want to just go

501
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 5: to summer school to just get through. I want to

502
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 5: go to summer school. I'm gonna get that A. Yeah,

503
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to get that A. Half the class.

504
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 5: I didn't get a but I was trying. It was

505
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 5: just a different mindset. You can be competitive. And it's

506
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 5: the same reason why today I'm a partner in the

507
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 5: commercial real estate firm. I have a software company. That's

508
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 5: the reason why. Because when football ended, my life wasn't over.

509
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 5: What I knew I could do this on the outside, right,

510
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 5: I knew I could do it because I've done it

511
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 5: in school.

512
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: It gives me chills to think of the beautiful life

513
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: that you've built at this point.

514
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 4: But tell us about your football career.

515
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 5: I mean, there's not a lot my football career. I

516
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 5: tell you what it was a dream coming true. First

517
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 5: of all, I get drafted by the Cowboys, the team

518
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 5: I hated when I was a kid, the Cowboys. Freaking

519
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 5: hated the Cowboys. I was a.

520
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: Challenging to be a Cowboys.

521
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 5: We didn't have a We didn't have a team in

522
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 5: Arizona at the time. With the Cardinals didn't come in

523
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 5: until I.

524
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: Was a sophomore in college.

525
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 5: Well maybe it's a junior year in high school or

526
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: something like, but by that time I didn't have I

527
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 5: didn't I didn't have no affiliation to him, right, But

528
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: my team growing up with the Steelers. Was my sister Monica.

529
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: Loved Lynn Swan and Terry Bradshaw. I had a ton

530
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 5: My best friends are all Cowboy fans. Everyone in Phoenix

531
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 5: was a Cowboy fan. Still his day, Cowboys one of

532
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 5: the two. Right. All my buddies were Cowboys fans, and

533
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 5: the Steelers were the only team that was they getting

534
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl boom. Steelers would win those games and

535
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 5: so I became a big time Steelers fan.

536
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: So I get drafted by the Cowboys and.

537
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: I was like, my god, the only team I hate

538
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 5: freaking draft me, right, but okay whatever, But I walked.

539
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Into a locker room.

540
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, thake thanks to Dave Campo who came out and

541
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 5: worked me out. He showed up to a linebacker, didn't

542
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 5: Yeah you know, he showed up to watch my best

543
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 5: friend Sparks, who was a cornerback. So that's how so

544
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 5: Dave Campbell. So I'm we're getting it's our pro day.

545
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 5: So I go to the combine. I have a really

546
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 5: good combine. I ran really good, worked out well, and

547
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 5: then we had a pro day at Arizona State. And

548
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: when we have these pro days, you have all the scouts,

549
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: every team comes out right and Dave Campbell ended up

550
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 5: coming out to pretty much watch Felipe because Felipe was

551
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 5: a guy they needed to they needed a cornerback, and

552
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 5: he came out to watch him. I ran a really

553
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 5: good time, ran a four three five on that field man,

554
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 5: and then I worked out that was what they call

555
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 5: a tweener. I played linebacker, safety, and no one knew

556
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 5: where to really play me, and they saw me run

557
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: and Campbell was like, he's a safety. Jimmy's the one

558
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 5: who ends up pulling the trigger to draft me. And

559
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 5: then I get drafted and I still really don't know

560
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 5: what position I'm going to play with the Cowboys because

561
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 5: they're still like nose, I don't know if you were

562
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 5: a corner, and say they brought me in in the

563
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 5: safety room. We get the mini camp and we do

564
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 5: what we call one on ones, like you got to

565
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 5: cover the receiver, whoever the receiver is, you.

566
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: Cover them right.

567
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 5: And I covered in college, and the Lovely Smith made

568
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 5: me play multiple positions. Right If I played safety, linebacker,

569
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 5: sometimes I cover running backs or tight ends or whatnot.

570
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: So I knew how to cover. They didn't know.

571
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 5: I knew how to cover, and I got out there

572
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 5: and we're covering one on one and Jimmy was like,

573
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 5: you're my nickel guy. Not like the nickel guy is

574
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 5: not the safety or the linebacker. The nickel guy, it's

575
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 5: your third corner. Wow. I became a corner. Basically, I'm

576
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 5: covering tight ends and I'm covering running backs and every

577
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 5: once in a while I cover a slot receiver or whatnot.

578
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: I became that guy and I ran down the field

579
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 5: on special teams. And I tell you this because my

580
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 5: first year, of course, I wanted to be the guy.

581
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be the dude.

582
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 5: Man.

583
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to play safety every game.

584
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 5: I wanted them to say my name at the beginning

585
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 5: of the game, or when John Madden is calling the games,

586
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 5: my face shows up as the starting safety or whatever

587
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: it is, right, And it burned me.

588
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: Man. Now, whoever's listening to this, it's okay to be

589
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: upset for not.

590
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 5: Whatever whatever your goal you have, you don't reach it,

591
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 5: or if you got a little animosity about it, it's okay.

592
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: I should burning you.

593
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 5: Right. So I would be at practice and I'd be

594
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 5: so upset that I wasn't the start of safety. There

595
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 5: were multiple times that Jimmy would walk up and he

596
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: tried to, hey, just waste your time, be patient, and

597
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 5: I was like, damn patience, I'm on the start. And

598
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 5: Jimmy loved that about me. I know he did, because yeah,

599
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: he knew it meant something to me. Campbell to saying

600
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: they knew it meant something to me. And every day

601
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: I'd go out there, I just wanted it.

602
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: I wanted it. I wanted it, wanted it.

603
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 5: But I grew so much because now I'm playing, I'm

604
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: covering all the time, I'm doing all those little things

605
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: where you know, a lot of safeties weren't doing that,

606
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 5: they weren't covering at all. Basically, I became the hybrid guy,

607
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 5: now the nickel guy that they call today the nickel

608
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: I was one of the first guys to ever do that, right,

609
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 5: But I cut my teeth because I had to cover,

610
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 5: had to cover at the cover. And then when I

611
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 5: became the starter at safety, I played multiple positions. And

612
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 5: those multiple positions because I could cover, allowed me to

613
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 5: be a guy who never experienced free agency because they.

614
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Knew the value absolutely.

615
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: And it's crazy how it's like a vicious circle. Man,

616
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to go through. You never put your

617
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 5: fire out. Never put the fire out, That's right.

618
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: I kept burning hot, just kept burning hot, and it's

619
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: paid dividends. Yeah, I mean it was all sudden. Actually,

620
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: I just like, man, some players that are just fun

621
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: to watch. You were one of those dudes. I appreciate it. Yeah,

622
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: you appreciate it.

623
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of that fire, because of that hood, because

624
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: of everything.

625
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: It was like you knew, I don't know what's going

626
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: to happen.

627
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna get teed off on right right now. You

628
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: would probably be objected from the game.

629
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 6: Games fun and exciting, and dude, I'm telling you, I've

630
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 6: seen you work out even now, and I'm like, I mean,

631
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 6: I would like to see you just sit up this

632
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 6: one time.

633
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: See that ain't happen.

634
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 5: You would cuss me out watching me play now, trying

635
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 5: to backpedal, giving like, come on man, let that guy

636
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 5: run by you.

637
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: Hey, I know where I stand now.

638
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: You know what, though, it was this conviction that you've

639
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: had in you, and that was instilled in you rather

640
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: that was from your mom and clearly is an angel,

641
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: or your uncles who were just two salty devil dogs trying.

642
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: To figure it out.

643
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: It taught you how to make a point, yeah, exactly,

644
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: colorful point yeah, and drive and drive I mean from

645
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: your sister who I know you, But I learned.

646
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: From so many people like I'll give you an example.

647
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 5: So for the longest time, when COVID hit like, I'd

648
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 5: work out like you just mentioned. I work out a

649
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: lot before COVID happened, and we were like three months

650
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: before there was a shutdown. I was ordering equipment. I

651
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: was going to a gym to work out. The gym

652
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 5: started getting packed and I couldn't get to the weights

653
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 5: at six o'clock in the morning. I couldn't get to

654
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 5: the squad rack.

655
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't get to this. Yeah.

656
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: So I said, I'm gonna build a gym in my garage. Right,

657
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 5: So I build this gym in my garage, and every day,

658
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 5: like when COVID hit, man, I just had my garage

659
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 5: and I would work out every day.

660
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: Right.

661
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: So I've been consistently that guy, because I'm a guy

662
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: that if I don't work out, my body hurts.

663
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be weights. I can just

664
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: walk on a treadmill. Right.

665
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 5: I gotta get SOLDI I've had eleven surgeries. I gotta

666
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: get moving, man.

667
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, trust trust don't you start with me.

668
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 7: I just I know I feel don't make me cussing anyway, so.

669
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: You don't feeling like I'm hurting. I gotta get these

670
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 5: bad going. So every day I'm working out, working out.

671
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 5: And then I would say about a year and a

672
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 5: half ago, I was working out five days a week,

673
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: and I traveled and I came back from New York

674
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: City and I remember taking a day off. It was

675
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 5: like a Tuesday, right. Actually was in New York on

676
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: a Monday, got off the plane, worked out, came had meetings,

677
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: came back and the next day, instead of me getting

678
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 5: up and going to go work out, I was like,

679
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: AHM taking this. I'm seriously do I'm every day Monday

680
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: through Friday, I'm doing something, staying active. Five thirty morning,

681
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: I get up and I go do something right and

682
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 5: I just dropped the ball down. I was like, I'm tired,

683
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 5: I don't want to do it. And I'm telling you

684
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 5: to this day. This is about a year and a

685
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: half ago. I have not been that consistent up until

686
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: two months ago. See the problem I had was I

687
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: was so cookie cutter and I was so into a regiment,

688
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: regimen regiment. I took one day the coward showed up

689
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 5: and said, nah, I'm gonna take this day off, right,

690
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 5: And it took me up until two months ago to

691
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: get back on track. And we act like we're always

692
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: consistent with no, we're not like no one does it

693
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: every single the Coward's going to show up at some point, right,

694
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: And I've always been like, nah, no, it won't happen

695
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: to me. And now it happened. And then here's the deal.

696
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: This is what got me, this is what really got me.

697
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: So I'm working out. I'm in my gym, I'm in

698
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: my garage, and the doors are open right every day.

699
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 5: Five forty five, about six oh five, a lady named

700
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: Carol runs like clockwork.

701
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: Like clockwork.

702
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 5: She lives two blocks down right, and Carol, she used

703
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: to see me working out all the time. And this

704
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: is where I knew I really slipped up. I'm out

705
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: there working out one day and I'm not consistent. I'm

706
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: out there twice maybe a week or whatnot. Carol runs up.

707
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: She says, hey, you've been traveling a lot, and I'm like, no,

708
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: what are you talking about. I've been here. She's like,

709
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: I haven't seen you, And I thought, okay, Cal there

710
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: is I see how Yeah, there it goes to chip again.

711
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 5: Ye okay, I need the chip, dude, I need Oh

712
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: you're gonna see me tomorrow, Carols. Matter of fact, you're

713
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 5: gonna see me every single day. But I need that

714
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 5: right because if I don't have the motivation, if I

715
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 5: don't have something that's gonna spark me, I tend to

716
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: fall off.

717
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: What do you mean by the coward showed up?

718
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 5: The coward is that person like you work every day,

719
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 5: you wake up, you look in the mirror, right, and

720
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 5: the coward is the one who's always saying, hey, you

721
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: know you worked out last week, or you let me

722
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: worked out every day this week.

723
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Take the day off, go get back in bed. That's

724
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: that coward, right.

725
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: Coward also wants to be tumultuous, wants to fight people,

726
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: wants to argue.

727
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Hey, man, your wife.

728
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 5: She came in a little late yesterday, she said, so

729
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 5: she snapped at you a little bit.

730
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: Man. You need to take it out like you. You

731
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: need to give it back to her today like this

732
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: revenge time.

733
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 7: Right.

734
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: The coward's always the one. He's dysfunctional.

735
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: It's that dysfunctional part of you that wants to speak

736
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 5: to you and wants to have this that subgroup who

737
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 5: wants to have their largest voice just wants to have

738
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 5: this loud voice and scream from the mountains. You got

739
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: to defend your mind. You gotta need your mind. He's

740
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: the taker, he's the victim. He wants me to play

741
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 5: the victim card. Oh man, did you see what happened

742
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 5: to the black guy on TV yesterday?

743
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: Every white person should pay for it?

744
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 5: No, man, Like, let's reset, look in the mirror and

745
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: tell the coward, no, bro, it ain't going down that way.

746
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 5: It's not happening. This is how I'm gonna live my life.

747
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna live it with grace. I'm gonna live it

748
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: with structure. I'm gonna live it in Jesus' path. That's

749
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 5: the way I'm gonna I'm gonna live my life.

750
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Period.

751
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: I still need that chip because if I don't have

752
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 5: that chip on my shoulder, the coward will show up.

753
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: That's your fuel, that's my fuel. What do you call

754
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: the champion?

755
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: Dude? That dude like I got that dude, that that

756
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: dude is a guy that's like, hey man, we ain't

757
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: hearing all that. Let's go, let's go. We gotta go

758
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: choose one.

759
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: I call that that's the good versus evil.

760
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's got it every day every day wake up,

761
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: you can decide which weren't fighting for.

762
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what would your daily affirmation be to yourself as

763
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: you're looking in the mirror?

764
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 5: How many people I touched in that day? The one

765
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 5: thing I do have. First of all, I have three

766
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 5: four kids. Three of them are out of the house.

767
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: One that I got a seven year old. Right, So

768
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 5: I try to get that work out in the morning

769
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 5: every day and my son goes to school. I take

770
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 5: them to school about seven thirty. I'm gonna have breakfast

771
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 5: with them. Wow, every single morning, right, it's just hands down,

772
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 5: there are no meetings. If I'm in town, I'm having

773
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 5: breakfast with him. I'm sitting down just here, and my

774
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: wife is usually either working out or she's doing her

775
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 5: own thing.

776
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: Right. I get him dressed, feed them, take them to school.

777
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: That's a win for me.

778
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: I got workout in, I took him to school, spent

779
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 5: time before seven thirty in the morning, got that done.

780
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 5: Those are two wins, and I count wins. I'm sorry,

781
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 5: I just have to That's what I do.

782
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: Right.

783
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: But then on the way to work, daily affirmation is

784
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: basically on the way to work. Again, I'm always in

785
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: these modes, right, Like I can be.

786
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: Up and down or whatnot.

787
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: And I'm always trying to shake that mode of because

788
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 5: I can be confrontational on certain things, right, shake the

789
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: mode of, hey man, instead of being confrontational, what are

790
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 5: you gonna bring?

791
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: Like, what positiveness are you gonna bring?

792
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: I love those guys Like he walks into a room

793
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: and then he lights the room up. However you want

794
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: to take it like he's gonna be a charge. He's

795
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 5: super charged all energy, right, And when Jake walks in

796
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: the room, You're like, Okay, herey comes. I don't know

797
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: how he's gonna go, but here comes that energy, right.

798
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 5: And I think special people have that, and I want

799
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 5: to be that person. Like I want to walk into

800
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: my office and I want people to look at me

801
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 5: and say, man, you dude the energy because I hear

802
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 5: that all the time from me when I walk in

803
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 5: my office, hey man, you bring that positive energy because

804
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: I walk in, I'm smiling. One that's one is I

805
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: always tell myself, you're gonna smile when you walk in

806
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 5: the office, regardless of what's happening. The admins whomever You're

807
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: gonna walk up and say what's going on?

808
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: Yes, talk loud. Sometimes when I walk in the office

809
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: and like good Marning Darren, that's a response. I'm like,

810
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: you better hear yes, good, Yeah, here we go right good.

811
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: I want to bring that energy because I think there's

812
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 5: something about it.

813
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: Right. Who wants to hear that guy? Yeah? Who wants

814
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: to be that guy? They walk in the room and.

815
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 4: It's just like, don't be the one that drains it, just.

816
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: Suck the light. I don't want to be that guy. Yeah,

817
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: be a soul feeder. Short you only get one shot, man, Yeah, exactly.

818
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you who's watching all the time. Your

819
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 5: kids are watching. Jackson's watching.

820
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely, they're watching it.

821
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: Like, if you don't have that energy, if you don't

822
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 5: have that pop when you walk in the room, they're probably.

823
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Like, that's right everything you do.

824
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: Did those voices the coward and the dude? Did that

825
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: start early in life?

826
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

827
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: I did. It started when I was a kid.

828
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: I went to junior high and I remember being on

829
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: a bus and something it went down the day before.

830
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: It was a little scrap right on the basketball courtiods

831
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: playing basketball. One guy says something I said something. We

832
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 5: went back and forth. Gang member. He's a Hispanic gang member.

833
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: School was half black, half Hispanic, and sometimes there was

834
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 5: went down sometimes playing basketball. If we got into it

835
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 5: didn't even It's like, oh whatever. So I remember the

836
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 5: next day, I'm on the bus and I'm getting off

837
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: the bus and I wasn't even thinking about it.

838
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: And I'm getting off, about to get off the bus,

839
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: and I remember the bus stopping.

840
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: I look down and old boys with his whole you

841
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: got his whole posse right there.

842
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: Right, I'm by myself.

843
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 5: Right, my boys are already they've already been dropped off, right,

844
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 5: my bus stop. So I remember here it goes right,

845
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 5: you better not back down. You better not like you

846
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: cannot they if your boys see you, coward back to dude,

847
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: you couldn't do it right. So that coward was in

848
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: my head, the hole. Don't get off that bus. Don't

849
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: get off that bus. Don't get off that bus. I

850
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: mean he's just talking to me, and dude, it's like, now,

851
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 5: you don't give it to his ass today. You're gonna

852
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 5: get to do that today.

853
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: Right, And I remember sitting there in the bus driver

854
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: sitting there, what's it?

855
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 5: I can hear him waiting. He's waiting, and he says, hey,

856
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 5: you ain't got to get off. You ain't got to

857
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 5: get off.

858
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Brother, dude, black dude, big heavy dude named Ernie, you

859
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: ain't got to get off. New you knew you got

860
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: that bag. We don't get.

861
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: But that's one where I'm like, that sucker was there

862
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 5: right back.

863
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: And forth and the way back then. Look, we weren't.

864
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 5: Fighting with guns and all that stuff, right, he knew

865
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: it was gonna be. He was going and I got

866
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: off the bus. Did nothing happen. No, I got the bus,

867
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: got my bag, started walking. He just looked at me,

868
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 5: said a few things, kept on going. But that's one thing.

869
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 5: That's one time I remember, like, you know how mad?

870
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 5: Honestly I didn't know, but I was just having his

871
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 5: battle of it was going back and I don't know

872
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 5: how long.

873
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: Dude was holding the door, like, hey he had the

874
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: door closed. He didn't. He was like, hey, that was

875
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: a test. Yeah it was a test, dude.

876
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: But I know where that guy is cause it's the

877
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 5: same thing that happens to me when I'm sitting there

878
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: and I know I got a prep for an RFP

879
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: or whatnot. Because the Cowury is gonna say, you got this.

880
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: You just wing it, just wing this thing. You know

881
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 5: you got Walmart tomorrow, just wing it. No. The dude's like, no, No,

882
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 5: we're gonna get down. We're gonna get dirty today. We're

883
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 5: gon we're gonna learn something. We're gonna learn something.

884
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: All right, talk to us about the triumph of winning

885
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: not one, not two, but three Super Bowls.

886
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 5: You know, winning Super Bowls was first of all, it's

887
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: people see us play these games and they think, oh, man,

888
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 5: you know, you guys are so talented and blah blah blah.

889
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 5: What people don't see is the time that goes into this. Right,

890
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 5: So the season ends, let's say the Super Bowls played

891
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 5: in I don't know, February ninth or tenth. Right by

892
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 5: the end of March, you're back in the gym, right,

893
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 5: So that's when it starts. It's a little different now,

894
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: But when I was playing, it started like the end

895
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 5: of March. You're starting to get back in the gym.

896
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 5: I say, like March twentieth, you take some time, and

897
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: then March twentieth you get back in the gym and

898
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 5: you have these times where.

899
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: You work out together.

900
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: Right, So it's defensive backs, linebackers that work out at a

901
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 5: certain time on the line and they work out of

902
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 5: side and it's usually our group was usually going.

903
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: At seven am. That's when the groundwork started.

904
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: It start right then you start to set the tone

905
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: of Okay, March twentieth, and then you get into April,

906
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: we get the you have the NFL Draft, and there's

907
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 5: guys that are coming and going, they're chopping, they're firing,

908
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 5: they're cutting.

909
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Guys, they're bringing in new guys.

910
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 5: And then by the time you get into May, you

911
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: kind of know who's going into training camp, right, but

912
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 5: you're still building this team. And like for me as

913
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 5: a captain of the defense, I'm always engaging with the

914
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 5: young guys coming in or trying to engage with people

915
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 5: to say, Okay, we gotta do this, and I'm trying to.

916
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: Keep my own job at the same time.

917
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 5: Right, But that's when it starts, so people don't see

918
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 5: all the things that take place. And then you get

919
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 5: into training camp. And then when you're in training camp,

920
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 5: you get guys coming and going in. Then you have

921
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 5: injuries throughout the season, Then you have big wins throughout

922
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 5: the season, then you got these big losses throughout the

923
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: seasons like a roller coaster ride, Right, emotions are just

924
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: going up and down, and then you get into the

925
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: playoffs and then it heightens itself even that much more. Right,

926
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: There's so much that goes into this because you set

927
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 5: these goals early on and you're trying to get there,

928
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: and you have these ups and downs and valleys and

929
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 5: those and you eat this a long season and coaches

930
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: that are talking about getting fired and all the things

931
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 5: that are going on, and then you finally get there and.

932
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: You get into the playoffs and you're like, man, we're

933
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: in the tournament. Now.

934
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 5: We got three games, three games, and here we are.

935
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 5: And that is what people don't see. They don't see

936
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 5: the fact that every morning on Monday, I can't walk.

937
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 5: I can't walk Monday morning, I gotta get nice up.

938
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: I'm struggling to get to Wednesday's practice. Right Monday, I'm

939
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 5: beat down. I'm just trying to stay a little lose. Tuesday,

940
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't even get out of bed. I

941
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: don't want to do anything.

942
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Isn't it weird? It's always two days later?

943
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know, especially if you play

944
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: on turf, play on turf, bro, it is a beating.

945
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: You know, you got turf burns that you don't want

946
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: to get, staff infections and all. I mean, there's so

947
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 5: much that goes on to this. So but hey, again

948
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 5: I ain't whinting because paychecks are nice.

949
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: Hey, there's a give and take here. Now I'm not

950
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: whining about it.

951
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: And then again, so now you're trying to get there.

952
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: You're in the playoffs, and it's one game at a time.

953
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 5: There is no seven game series, five games series. It

954
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: is one game you gotta win. And when you do,

955
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: when you finally get there to the pinnacle and you

956
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: win that championship, it's unmatched. The feeling of victory, the

957
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 5: feeling of walking into that locker room, because I could

958
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 5: care less when we won the Super Bowl, I can

959
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 5: care less what was going on outside that locker room.

960
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 5: That locker room was hot. It was just dudes are

961
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 5: crying emotionally, you're spent, but you're just like we did it.

962
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: It's special.

963
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 5: It's special, yeah, and you never lose that, right. There's

964
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 5: a certain camaraderie that's a super Bowl winning team and

965
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 5: you stay together all these We just had a reunion

966
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 5: two months ago. Troy set it up and man, we

967
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: had a great time.

968
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Like that's we look different, we all looked different, but

969
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: we still tell them lies. We teld all these lies.

970
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: But it's just you, just that fraternity you'd never forget.

971
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 5: And it's just a special moment, it really is.

972
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: What would you say to that young man back in

973
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: Phoenix if you could talk to him today?

974
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 5: Who if I could talk to him today, I would

975
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 5: probably say, it's okay to cry, It's okay, yeah, because

976
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: I didn't have I mean, there was so many times

977
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 5: I just want to be hard.

978
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: I had to be hard.

979
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 5: I had to you know, I didn't have my father there,

980
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 5: I didn't have all those little things. And it's okay

981
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: to just let it go and just yeah, be human

982
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 5: and just and move forward because I just I held

983
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 5: on to so much negativity. There are times where I

984
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: probably just wouldn't let it go. Yeah, it would have

985
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 5: made for better me at a younger age.

986
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: But it's okay to have the chip, but don't let it.

987
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't let it consume you.

988
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, bro, thank you for sharing that.

989
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

990
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean I was just gonna ask a questions, but

991
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're done.

992
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: Actually be the tea like I want to know, and

993
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: you can't say. We can say whatever you want, but

994
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: what do you do to recharge? What do you do

995
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: to put soul food in you to get back up

996
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: and get back out there and to continue to pour

997
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: in to make people and businesses and teams.

998
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: And man, dude, you hit. I'm glad see you brought

999
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: some value today. You do. Absolutely, that was that was

1000
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: a great, great question. So every day I had talked about.

1001
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 5: When I get up in the morning and go work out,

1002
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 5: all right, there's this minute like I usually have like

1003
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: these three minutes where I just go, man, and I

1004
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 5: go into my closet. I got my shoes on and

1005
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But I'll usually go, I'm looking for

1006
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 5: a shirt, do it, and I get on my knees.

1007
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 5: Like every single day, it's like the recharge, right, and

1008
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm laying down flat and I'm just telling God, I

1009
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 5: ain't worthy. I love you, Please pour into me because

1010
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 5: I know I'm not worthy. That's like my recharge time.

1011
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: For some reason. It's just that feeling of and sometimes

1012
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 5: I don't even say anything. I just sit there and

1013
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: just try to listen, and I'll do it for like

1014
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 5: three to five minutes in my class. My wife has

1015
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 5: come in so many times, like we've had workouts and

1016
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: she'll come in and I've seen her turn the lights on.

1017
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: And be like, walk right back out.

1018
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: She knows, that's my timetime, that hey, my time. Oh

1019
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 5: she knows, she knows. But I just every morning, I

1020
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: just need it. Every morning, I just need it.

1021
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: I just continue to love you more every freaking time

1022
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: we're I'm around you, I'm.

1023
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: Like, God, that's just that's good. That's good ship right there.

1024
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 4: That's the good ship. Or we're changing the name of

1025
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: the podcast.

1026
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's the first time I've cussed

1027
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: on the podcast people.

1028
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: I mean, Darren Woodson, thank you so much.

1029
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for your.

1030
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: Time, thank you for your vulnerability, for telling us your

1031
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: story and your truth and everything that you do to

1032
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: practice and rest assured.

1033
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 4: You are the good energy in the room. When you

1034
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 4: walk in, everything elevates, and it does.

1035
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 5: I love you, of course, I love y'all too, And

1036
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: we've known each other for a while. But y'all just

1037
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 5: good folks, sharp and good folks. And he this dude

1038
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 5: ain't gonnaver let me drop the ball. He's gonna make

1039
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 5: sure I got it right. But I also want to

1040
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 5: thank Nick. Right months ago, Nick Rock, I had a

1041
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 5: long conversation out and actually I was sitting in the

1042
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: gym when we had that conversation, but it was it

1043
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 5: was a deep like he asked me some questions that

1044
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: I was like, Man, that's very inquisitive. That really got

1045
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 5: me to thinking about a lot of other things. So Nick,

1046
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: I know you're listening. Man, appreciate you.

1047
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: Brother.

1048
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 4: He is the best.

1049
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Couldn't period, no Nick, no good stuff. Yeah, that's simple.

1050
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: There's a reason he's he does what he does. He

1051
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: is a solid, solid human being. Well, thank you.

1052
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: I tell you know how I feel about you anytime.

1053
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: Anytime, anywhere, any day, no questions, time and place.

1054
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm there back at you, bro, I know I love it.

1055
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening today.

1056
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: If this episode touched you, please share it and be

1057
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: part of making someone else's day better.

1058
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Put on your bad ass caves and go be a

1059
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: champion today and remember you can't do epic stuff without

1060
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: epic people.

1061
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the good Stuff.

1062
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: The Good Stuff is executive for used by Ashley Shick,

1063
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: Jacob Schick, Leah Pictures and q Coode Media, Hosted by

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Speaker 3: Ashley Shick and Jacob Schick. Produced by Nick Cassellini and

1065
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Speaker 3: Ryan Count's house post production supervisor Will Tindy. Music editing

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Speaker 3: by Will Haywood Smith, edited by Mike Robinson,