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Speaker 4: What happened with the Roya Wall situation? What ended the relationship?

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Speaker 4: Was it business finances or was it personalities clashing?

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Speaker 5: All of it combination it probably all of it all.

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Speaker 4: Do you think you had some level of responsibility to

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Speaker 6: It was my job to lead it, and it didn't

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Speaker 6: I don't want to speak for anybody else, but looking back,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my graduates from my school being forced.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, welcome back, e y L. Were playing

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Speaker 6: They've been away for the last nine months. It feels

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Speaker 4: This is a conversation that we've been waiting for almost

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Speaker 4: We got it, so Joseph. But first and foremost, these

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Speaker 5: You couldn't be better. You look good out there. I

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Speaker 4: Now, but crats man, you know, it's always good to

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Speaker 4: see you on your trajectory upwards. I like the new studio,

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Speaker 4: I like the new vibe.

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Speaker 5: Thank you man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate you talk about the tiny colch no

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Speaker 8: more he has. This has been an elevation at a

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Speaker 6: I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't

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Speaker 4: last five years of your journey, and from an educational standpoint,

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Speaker 6: Put the height of the negotiation. I'll be a little transparent.

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Speaker 5: Like That's what it felt like. It was very abrupt.

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Speaker 5: None of that has happened.

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Speaker 4: So the issue that they you felt that the number

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Speaker 6: Something that ended up being close to twenty million with

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Speaker 9: Oh no, that wasn't that. I was never want to

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Speaker 6: But there's this thing going on in the industry where

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Speaker 5: What are y'all talking to?

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Speaker 4: Like any kind of ad?

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Speaker 6: They wanted anything they wanted anytime? Just plug it in. Hey, y'all,

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Speaker 5: Give us all the videos. Are they wanted all they

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Speaker 6: The videos, Give us all the videos, all the bills,

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Speaker 6: because that's what they did with Y're broken and don't

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Speaker 5: They're doing it publicly. Hey, we Spotify buyers this advertised

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Speaker 6: By they buying the companies to come so they could

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Speaker 8: Yeah, being being that you come from the music industry

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean we in America, it's a story

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Speaker 6: Which took the plan off the table. I took a

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Speaker 8: So when when you were coming up with the division

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Speaker 5: But ye know what division for the network?

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Speaker 6: Let me let me, let me, let me let me

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Speaker 4: It was just a show.

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Speaker 6: But once you start getting us a lot of things

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Speaker 8: But when Spotify came to get it, it's two hundred

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Speaker 8: he must be seeing the same thing. Were you going

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Speaker 4: When he saw it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 6: I say it every single time I see allfoud I

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Speaker 6: don't be joking that. I have to see it's inevitable.

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Speaker 6: It's not a jinx, It's inevitable on that path. So

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to see how the financial people deal

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Speaker 6: It happens every time, but you're all smart, brothers.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think some of the issues was

468
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Speaker 4: with the with the network?

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Speaker 6: Was it too many females, too many to name, way

470
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Speaker 6: too many to name? Oh my god, fucking shoot me.

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Speaker 5: To get me a cigarette? What you want me to say?

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Speaker 5: What do you want me to say? Buddy?

473
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Speaker 6: I can't say too much because I still have a network.

474
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Speaker 6: It's just ran differently. It's just ran differently. But I

475
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 6: don't think that I was staffed in a way to

476
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Speaker 6: deal with ten or more creative people at a time.

477
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Speaker 6: I think I underestimated the staffing that needed to be

478
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Speaker 6: in place to really do that the right way. See,

479
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Speaker 6: because I keep thinking, we fuck up, thinking that we're

480
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Speaker 6: all so similar, and it takes a while for you

481
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Speaker 6: to realize, oh shit, everybody ain't me. We ain't thinking

482
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Speaker 6: the same on everything. I'm thinking, Hey, I was in

483
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Speaker 6: a basement doing cooking this up.

484
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Speaker 5: I can cook this up. I can cook this.

485
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Speaker 6: Up forever as long as I'm okay, right like I can,

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Speaker 6: I can fight the war.

487
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Speaker 5: I can fasten my.

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Speaker 6: Belt and get this done with a greater, greater vision

489
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Speaker 6: in mind. Everybody don't feel like that, and it's nothing

490
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Speaker 6: to be bitter at like, you can't resent that.

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Speaker 5: You gotta respect that. Right.

492
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Speaker 6: So you're working with girls, they're girls. Girls might have

493
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Speaker 6: a different vision than you. Nothing wrong, none wrong, everybody.

494
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Speaker 6: There's no one way to do this shit. And I

495
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Speaker 6: think I took that for granted coming in. That's just

496
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Speaker 6: that's just one It's just one of the things.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that the expectation of work was a

498
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Speaker 4: little like I look at our situation kind of like

499
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Speaker 4: as an independent label, where the people on a network

500
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Speaker 4: produce their own content, They produce their own on social

501
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Speaker 4: media clips. We give them a voice, we give them

502
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Speaker 4: a platform, we promote it, but and they get a

503
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Speaker 4: lot of the lion's share of revenue that comes in

504
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Speaker 4: as a result of that. It's like coch Records. But

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Speaker 4: I could see it being extremely difficult if somebody's expecting

506
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Speaker 4: you to produce content for them and you to do

507
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Speaker 4: social media clips for them. Was that part of a

508
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Speaker 4: problem or.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't want to say that.

510
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Speaker 6: What I will say is this, right, if I'm the

511
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Speaker 6: label and you're the artist, and you feel that you

512
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 6: went and made ten amazing songs at some point, if

513
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Speaker 6: you don't hear those songs or you don't see the

514
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Speaker 6: songs happen in the way it's supposed to happen for you.

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Speaker 6: You come into the label, You're come into the label

516
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Speaker 6: to say, hey, the fuck is going on? I don't

517
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Speaker 6: have enough spends, my video, ain't playing my mixed show?

518
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Speaker 6: Then that fuck, I don't have no shows my public

519
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 6: I don't have nothing lined up, and the labels looking

520
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Speaker 6: at you like the fuck are you even talking about?

521
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Speaker 6: Like did you do what you had to do? Like

522
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Speaker 6: I know you made some shit, but did you do

523
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Speaker 6: everything thing you had to do? It becomes that. It

524
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Speaker 6: becomes that.

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Speaker 8: So even now like you had shows, is the what's

526
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 8: what's the vision now for it? Is it to find

527
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Speaker 8: more voices, more creatives, to create the plans. Like you said,

528
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Speaker 8: you're gonna be running it differently. Now, what what's gonna

529
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Speaker 8: change now for Joe Butt Network?

530
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Speaker 6: That I don't need to be so front facing in

531
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Speaker 6: everybody's in everybody's journey. Like I kick it with a

532
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Speaker 6: bunch of podcasters. They don't all need to come kick

533
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 6: it on my network. I don't need to fucking fund

534
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 6: all of them and sit in on the think tanks

535
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Speaker 6: and fucking like that.

536
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Speaker 5: I don't need to do all that Like, as.

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Speaker 6: Long as everybody's doing what they gotta do, I'm always

538
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 6: feel like we're gonna be right.

539
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: Like the plan is still the same.

540
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Speaker 6: If you happen to bump into somebody that you got

541
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Speaker 6: chemistry with and you're compatible with, they want to get

542
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Speaker 6: that done.

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Speaker 5: Eventually, I want to get off the couch.

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Speaker 6: At some point, I'm getting the fuck off this couch.

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Speaker 6: That is gonna happen, But for now, na, I just

546
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Speaker 6: wanna keep drilling. Any niggas, I'm gonna keep drilling. I'm

547
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Speaker 6: never gonna stop. Niggas can't stop me. I saw when

548
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 6: nobody can stop me. Nobody, none of them can stop me.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because I just feel like your work ethic is

550
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 8: just is just different bar none.

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Speaker 5: I feel like people homeless, they take it.

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Speaker 8: They take this for granted, right, like like we see you,

553
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 8: we know we're going to see you twice a week

554
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 8: every week, and so people take that for granted. But

555
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 8: the process of being getting prepared to do this, Like

556
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 8: what's that life for you?

557
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Speaker 5: Because like what you've mastered is great questions?

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Speaker 8: I mean you've mastered something, right, Like we got abduel

559
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Speaker 8: out here. Every time you put out an episode, even

560
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Speaker 8: my sister in a little time. You're like, it's three

561
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 8: hours of content. It's tough to get people to listen

562
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Speaker 8: to ten minutes of content, but you've mastered it.

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Speaker 5: People will.

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Speaker 8: It's part of their daily lives twice a week on

565
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Speaker 8: the way to work, and it's after that they listen

566
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Speaker 8: to it. It's a discussion after like Yo, you have

567
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Speaker 8: with Jersey he said, Yo, you have with Jersey Yo,

568
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Speaker 8: Joe Messenger.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, this is like entrenched.

570
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Speaker 8: Like so, what is that preparation like to get like

571
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Speaker 8: to this level of just consistency.

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Speaker 6: I guess it's deep. It's way to keep it in marriage.

573
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 6: It's not being married to it. Like most podcasters, they

574
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 6: come in and they work today or they worked the

575
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Speaker 6: day before, and then they come in and they have

576
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Speaker 6: to lose zoom meetings or whatever the fuck they do.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. This is literally my life. It makes it,

578
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Speaker 6: It makes it easy. Like Kevin Lewles told me a

579
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 6: long time ago, when we were arguing about image versus reality,

580
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 6: he was like, no, when it's not image, when it's

581
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Speaker 6: just reality, when it's just you, then you're not froning.

582
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Speaker 5: It's not a fascant. My entire life is dedicated to this.

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Speaker 6: Meaning the people that love me and the people that

584
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Speaker 6: I love like the most, to my family, my kids.

585
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 6: They know what I'm on. I'm on a mission. They

586
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: know my goals. They help me in that, they support

587
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: me in that, they know if I hear something, they

588
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 6: know how it's going through my brain. They might have

589
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 6: to tell me, hey, keep this shit private.

590
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 5: Like my entire life is this.

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Speaker 6: Niggas might fuck more than me, Niggas might vacate more

592
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 6: than me. Like we work, work a lot. These niggas

593
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Speaker 6: keep asking me, now, yo, we're all Friday nigga.

594
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

595
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Speaker 4: Why why would we be all Friday?

596
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: Yo?

597
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Speaker 6: You know what people would give to wake up, go

598
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 6: down the street, sit on a counch and talk to

599
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 6: their friends. And that's work. I can't compute it. When

600
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 6: people start talking about what happens. Problem didn't move good, good, good,

601
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Speaker 6: I'm glad. I mean you ain't figured it out, you

602
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 6: ain't fell down enough, you ain't get the scrapes on

603
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 6: your knees, you ain't put the work in. That's happening

604
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 6: a lot in podcasts Land too, man. Niggas buy a

605
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 6: couch by Mike says, yo, what.

606
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Speaker 10: Man, would you pay for the day or would you

607
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 10: would you go yoe? That's what they're doing out there,

608
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Speaker 10: the great value ass.

609
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Speaker 6: Oh my god, these niggas are discussing out yet.

610
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Speaker 5: So all right, so let me do you look at

611
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 5: yourself polluting the water? Do you look? Do you look

612
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: at yourself as as.

613
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Speaker 4: The Dame dash for the space?

614
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Speaker 5: No, me and Dame always been similar.

615
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Speaker 4: You say, You're not similar? Always been similar, you know

616
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Do you look at yourself as kind

617
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Speaker 4: of similarities and what he did to music for what

618
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Speaker 4: you're doing for podcasting, as far as the rebelliousness of it,

619
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Speaker 4: the independence of it, the going against the system. I

620
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Speaker 4: kind of see similarities in you guys.

621
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Speaker 6: Well, we're similar at our core, which is ownership and

622
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 6: what that fight really entails. It's always been like that.

623
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Speaker 6: I'm glad that he has been such a such a

624
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Speaker 6: mentor in that regard, Like he's probably the only one

625
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Speaker 6: for the last thirty years that's just been on that

626
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 6: and showed you how to do it. Fashion music brought

627
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 6: my niggas on. We got alcohol, he showed he showed

628
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 6: us how to do it. The fact that they might

629
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Speaker 6: not speak anymore. I don't have nothing to do with

630
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Speaker 6: what they already showed us.

631
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Speaker 4: That's the fact.

632
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Speaker 5: You can't up with Dan, I always always with So.

633
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: What's the blueprint to make money in a podcast? Let's

634
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: get to this. We can say our blueprint if you're interested,

635
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: But what's your blueprint?

636
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: All right, So let's start, niggas.

637
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Speaker 4: I look at I look at podcasting as like a

638
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: bully pulpit to build your your reputation, to build your

639
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: your name, to build trust. So you it's the easy

640
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: ways to make money, of course is on the audio side,

641
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: Apple and Spotify from audio ads, and then you know

642
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: YouTube you get paid from assence. That's you know, it's

643
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: kind of like low hanging fruit. But then from there,

644
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 4: for us, the live event space has become pretty big

645
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: for us.

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Speaker 5: No, that's your all, that's all bad right there?

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, shout out. You mentioned fourteen times account with that.

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on, we appreciate that the live event

649
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: space has been very good for us. You know this

650
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: talk of a paywall. I want to talk to you

651
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: about Patreon. A lot of creators are trying to pick

652
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 4: up because a lot a lot of creatives are trying

653
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: to figure out how to separate content that's free and

654
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: content that's paid for. So like the patres, good luck.

655
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: But it depends on what space, and so it's like

656
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Speaker 4: for us, we're in an education space.

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Speaker 6: So don't pitch me to death right now. No, you

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Speaker 6: asked me, ask me down your fucking pr a little

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Speaker 6: tablet in the education space and the life touring space.

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Speaker 5: I w w me, I know what your niggas is

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Speaker 5: out here. So that's that's another revenue model.

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Speaker 4: Right. Then you can through merch you can do collaborations

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Speaker 4: different so it's a variety of different things.

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Speaker 5: What's your revenue model? Wait, one last thing?

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Speaker 8: One last part of the revenue model is that we

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Speaker 8: bring people on who have information about industries, and so

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Speaker 8: based on the information, we could look at it and

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Speaker 8: say that's a viable business. We should do that business.

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Speaker 8: In fact, you should help us do this business. Shark

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Speaker 8: tank pretty much, it becomes that.

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Speaker 6: Running around shark that's a good way to do it,

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Speaker 6: though it's another way.

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Speaker 5: I like that, all right, what do you want to

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Speaker 5: know from me?

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Speaker 4: What's the revenue? What's the revenue model for podcasting?

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Speaker 5: One on one?

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Speaker 4: Professor Joe Biden is teaching, Well, we also are in

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Speaker 4: the educational we like to do university your semester?

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Speaker 5: Can you do it? In that voice?

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Speaker 8: This is because you got like we always talk about

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Speaker 8: this like yo, Joe has probably degree not because.

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Speaker 5: This is what the people want to know.

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Speaker 4: This is what they want to know, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of people have not figured out how to make money

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Speaker 4: from podcasting.

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Speaker 5: Most people.

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Speaker 4: Most people have not figured it out.

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Speaker 5: We said, what do we say about good? Were talking

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Speaker 5: about why is that good? Please? Why is it good?

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Speaker 5: Why is it not?

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Speaker 4: Because it's an industry where people are getting involved in

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Speaker 4: while you know you just said Dada showed you the blueprint,

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Speaker 4: how he showed it?

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Speaker 6: You just said an action, he showed it exactly and

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Speaker 6: if you missed that, then you missed it. So what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, what I'm saying is this, I've always felt

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Speaker 6: like there needs to be like a hip hop s

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Speaker 5: Test that you take before you could get a record. Heal, yop.

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Speaker 6: Some of you niggas got to answer some questions like

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Speaker 6: how do you hold a microphone because some of the

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Speaker 6: beer basics you gotta know. If everybody just know everything

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Speaker 6: with no no consequence, no trials and trial and error,

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Speaker 6: like then everybody's just doing the same shit. No, and

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Speaker 6: then you muddy in the water. No, because that's what happened.

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Speaker 6: All of these all of these fucking insects came in

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Speaker 6: here right said yes to everything, said yes to everything.

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Speaker 6: They said yes to everything that was put in front of.

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Speaker 5: Their face shorts.

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Speaker 6: You niggas sold y'all asked for chocolate chip cookies.

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Speaker 5: That's what y'all did. Yes. So then the companies put.

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Speaker 6: Their pants on, and they put their their teflon vests on,

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Speaker 6: and now it's a.

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Speaker 5: Cap on it. Yeah, because and now because it's.

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Speaker 6: A cap on it, Rasha got to sity in and say,

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Speaker 6: how's everybody making money?

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Speaker 5: No, everybody ain't.

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Speaker 6: Only the niggas that figured out and had some balls

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Speaker 6: and moved.

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Speaker 5: With a certain machiese mode figured that out. So if you.

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Speaker 6: Niggas got talking about, oh no, would you better go

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Speaker 6: on a date with jay Z, which one of the

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Speaker 6: more parts are you?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not sharing none with them. Get the fuck

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Speaker 5: out the studio. Get out of the studio right now.

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Speaker 5: I'm making a song, I'm making art.

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Speaker 6: You microwave manufacturers have come here, and now I got

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Speaker 6: to have tough conversations with the companies, so they feel like, oh,

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Speaker 6: we got to dining.

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Speaker 5: You know the fuck you.

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Speaker 8: Don't you got that? We gave twenty people that while

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Speaker 8: we giving you got that. But let's talk about that then,

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Speaker 8: because and if there was some unity involved, then you

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Speaker 8: might be able to.

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Speaker 6: Come to the God with my unity, come to the gunfighter.

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Speaker 8: That's exactly where I wanted to go with you, because

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Speaker 8: like what you're saying is absolutely correct. Like we talked

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Speaker 8: to people in the space and you know, a lot

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Speaker 8: of times people don't share their deals, but some people

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Speaker 8: have what us They looking like it's like, oh, you

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Speaker 8: guys are the finance guys, what do you think of

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Speaker 8: this deal? And we're looking at it like that's what

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Speaker 8: you really took, Like did you know did you know

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Speaker 8: the business bond this? And I feel like nobody shares

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Speaker 8: the information, which leads to people taking the bad deals,

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Speaker 8: which now when it's time for some of the people

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Speaker 8: who have really figured it out. What you're talking about

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Speaker 8: that cap, Yeah, that twenty million or thirty million dollar

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Speaker 8: offer that could have been there. When one hundred shows

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Speaker 8: take the one hundred and twenty five thousand, it brings

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Speaker 8: it the value down of.

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Speaker 5: The space you're writing, what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: This is how I know another side exists because I

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Speaker 6: have looked too many of these people, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 6: in the.

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Speaker 5: Face, in the eyes, and said, that's a mess.

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Speaker 6: That's a mess. Deals that I had no horse in

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Speaker 6: the race telling you this, because that is a mess.

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Speaker 6: Take it to your trusted people and do something different.

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Speaker 9: And they take it every time they signed it anyway,

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Speaker 9: take it every time because I have spoken every time

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Speaker 9: I spoke to Matt Barnes about this, and I'm like,

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Speaker 9: there needs to be some level of a summit coalition

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Speaker 9: amongst podcasts.

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Speaker 4: It's not every podcast, but you know top podcast is

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Speaker 4: in the space to understand, Okay, what are they offering you?

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Speaker 4: What is this? What is because it's like there's not

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Speaker 4: a level of shared information. Like Troy said, it's like

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Speaker 4: the NBA, right, you know, Steph Curry signed for thirty

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Speaker 4: million dollars a year, So now if you're lebron you

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Speaker 4: can kind of base it off of this is makes sense?

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Speaker 4: This doesn't make sense, right, But nobody knows anything. And

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Speaker 4: a lot of these guys are my friends and I

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Speaker 4: ask them questions and they don't fully give me an answer.

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Speaker 4: Either they just don't want to tell me, or they

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Speaker 4: don't actually know themselves. They're not fully educated enough themselves

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Speaker 4: to actually articulate it. Either way, it's not been official

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Speaker 4: to the space.

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, now you just got a bunch of

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Speaker 4: people just like in the wilderness, not knowing how much

782
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Speaker 4: they should charge for AD, not knowing what industries. There's

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Speaker 4: no industry standard because we don't know what the industry

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Speaker 4: is doing. Like you know what I'm saying, So do

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Speaker 4: you think that that could be beneficial?

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Speaker 6: As far as that would be beneficial? But I mean,

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Speaker 6: you're right, I learned that people don't. Most people ain't

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Speaker 6: coming back to share the information. The people that's up up,

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Speaker 6: they just give it. They just willingly give the information.

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Speaker 6: But when it's that fight, when it's that fight to

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Speaker 6: get there, niggas ain't sharing shit. It's a lot of

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Speaker 6: ego and pride involved. I ran around for three years saying, hey,

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Speaker 6: I think my deals up, when your deals up. I

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Speaker 6: think your deals up when your deals up. I think

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Speaker 6: we should all talk just so we are aware. It's

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Speaker 6: three difficult. I did that end up being what all

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Speaker 6: niggas I did it with? We end up with every

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Speaker 6: single person that I did that with, save exact thing.

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Speaker 6: But we haven't beached with them.

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Speaker 8: But they're looking at us like, wow, you guys are

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Speaker 8: sharing all this information Like wait, I'm glad I know

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Speaker 8: this now.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, did you sign this yet?

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Speaker 8: Like we're about to we're about to renegotiate, but again

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Speaker 8: we just don't know, right, Like I can't I can't

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Speaker 8: help if I don't know. And then when, like you said,

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Speaker 8: when we go to negotiating table, the company knows because

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Speaker 8: they're looking at the deal. It's like, okay, well if

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Speaker 8: we give them this, then everybody else is worth this

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Speaker 8: and it's.

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Speaker 5: Only a few Like how many how many profitable shows

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Speaker 5: you think there are in the space? And which space? Five?

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Speaker 5: Five or less?

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Speaker 4: Five? That's less less? That's crazy that when you say profitable.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean think that they make money off amount.

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Speaker 4: Of money like a dollar or a million dollar? Like

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Speaker 4: that's that's a relative million.

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Speaker 6: Let's says, let's put budget.

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Speaker 8: Let's put a million as a threshold. Yeah, net yes,

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Speaker 8: you think show you five?

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Speaker 5: Wow? Yeah? Okay.

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Speaker 6: I mean when you say in the space, I'm excluding

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Speaker 6: the television shows that have made themselves podcasts, yeah, not

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Speaker 6: in the news shows that have made earners.

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 4: POD tradition shows it's not a lot.

877
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: No, no, wow, I don't know if I say five,

878
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 5: but I don't know that I can get to turn.

879
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: Well, this is why, and this is why I have

880
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 4: no problem sharing the blueprints like here lay it out

881
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: for you, because the odds are already stacked against you anyway, right,

882
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: so if there's some level of help that can be provided.

883
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 6: But look at this, right, some of these people start

884
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 6: their pod, they see the Google AdSense thing and they're thrilled,

885
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 6: so they just look to double and triple down in that,

886
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 6: and they focus so much on that that they're content.

887
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 5: It's more money we ever made. Even the ads.

888
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm getting a thousand dollars ad let's say fifteen

889
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 6: nights doing two of these are pod I'm just gonna

890
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 6: take my calculator and oh shit, I can make ten

891
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 6: grand a week or whatever if I'm not doing it.

892
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 5: But some people are happy in that.

893
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 6: Some people always look to the future and just want

894
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 6: it differently and want more. Right, So I can't speak

895
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 6: to that person that is only doing it this way.

896
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 6: I mean, you named a bunch of right, there's what

897
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 6: let's let's go through. It's merchandising. There's live touring. There's

898
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 6: live touring slash speaking engagements. Those can be two different things.

899
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 6: There's advertisements slash integrations. Right, there's paywall slash there's pay

900
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 6: per view somewhere.

901
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: What else is there? What else is there?

902
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, all of them is there now, all of them

903
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 6: is doing that. So you should be set up on

904
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 6: all of these places because they all pay out. Now

905
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 6: the fucking TikTok, snapchats, Instagram, Facebook, all that shit.

906
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 5: See.

907
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 6: So now there's a bunch of people that's gonna hear

908
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 6: those things. And there's some more I'm leaving out, but

909
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 6: there's a bunch of people that's gonna hear those things.

910
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 6: And now say, how do I fill those buckets the

911
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 6: same way I did with my account and said that

912
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 6: you need seven eight strings or whatever to be a millionaires, Like,

913
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 6: get there, I got one nigga. A bunch of people

914
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 6: going to try to fill those buckets. It's somebody else's

915
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 6: job to go create more.

916
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I e.

917
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 5: Combat Jack, Joe Budden, y'all.

918
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 6: Somebody has to go add more buckets. So that's really

919
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: the answer to this. The traditional ways to get paid

920
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: is all right there. Everybody's value is going to be

921
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 6: different because everbody numbers is different.

922
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 5: We all do different things.

923
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 6: But who's going to add to the pot instead of

924
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 6: just getting robbed or fucking the ass?

925
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 4: What's the deal with what's the deal with Patreon?

926
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: You? Jack Jack?

927
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: You my guy over there? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

928
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: You you have equity and Patreon.

929
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 6: You are asking personal questions creator equity, you are asking

930
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 6: that's that's not that's public knowledge. That was the titlehead

931
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 6: of Yeah that was all some people thought. I just

932
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 6: wrote it there, so.

933
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 4: You're working with If anybody doesn't know, Patreon is a

934
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: site that you can pay like different tiers for added

935
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: content pretty much right like A five.

936
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 6: Dollars was a site made by a gentleman who is

937
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 6: a musician and got ran through the ring like most

938
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 6: musicians did, and was on YouTube. And he went home

939
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: and he said, hey, this is fucked up that this

940
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 6: is all creators are making over here.

941
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 5: I need to find a way. See finding a way

942
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 5: adding a bucket.

943
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 6: So he went, there's Patreon. Patreon pays out more than

944
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 6: everywhere else for your content. So yes, there are different tiers.

945
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 6: You are in charge of those tiers. You slaught them

946
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 6: how you want to slot them, and your fans come

947
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 6: and it's your ship.

948
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: And you put out an episode every week for Patreon.

949
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 5: Oh I do buddy?

950
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: How much? What do you do?

951
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: I do this week on Patreon?

952
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 6: On there has been a Monday drop, a Tuesday drop. Uh,

953
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 6: there will be a Wednesday drop. We'll skip Thursday. There'll

954
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 6: be a Friday and Saturday drop.

955
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 4: So how have you how have you been able to

956
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: balance that? With YouTube? Is a lot the free versus

957
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 4: how you? How you balance the free verse?

958
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 5: Move time? Time? Time? Is my inventory?

959
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 6: That that hour and ninety minutes to and from Queens?

960
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 6: No we need that?

961
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 5: No I didn't.

962
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 4: How did you? How do you balance free YouTube versus paid?

963
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: Patreon one is a one is a public commercial and

964
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 5: the rest at.

965
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: A public commercial for Patreon.

966
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 6: No, no, no, the regular pod that goes on YouTube,

967
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 6: is it, that's that's for that's for the love here

968
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 6: that's a sample.

969
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 5: That's when you walking by the food.

970
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 6: Court and they got the little terryockey here you here,

971
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 6: you go, it's like, damn, make some rice.

972
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: That's that's that's that. Let me go get that.

973
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 8: Padreon, it's a little more loose when you set up

974
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 8: your tiers for Patreon is something that we had to

975
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 8: go through. I'm sure creators are doing it creating the

976
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 8: price points that make sense, and so that was like

977
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 8: something we had to figure out.

978
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 5: I know, I started it with one dollar.

979
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 8: Then it was like five dollars and ten, and I

980
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 8: think the highest tier was like one hundred.

981
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 5: Like what is that sweet spot when you're doing it?

982
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 8: Or do you look at it based off the value

983
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 8: or the incentives that you're given that goes with.

984
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: The vice Poe?

985
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: I based it off the amount of work, the amount

986
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: of work, amount of content that I'd be able to provide.

987
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: It really wasn't a money thing to me that you

988
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 6: could change. However, you see fit right, Like you could

989
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 6: start one way next month or next two months, you

990
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 6: could change it. That didn't matter to me. We started

991
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 6: one way and kind of kept it that way, which

992
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 6: was three different tiers. It took me over a year

993
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 6: to add a part of the show tier and try

994
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: to make it an interactive thing when I was had

995
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 6: a little more faith in the VR being more prominent

996
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 6: right now, but still want to keep interactive.

997
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 5: Are there different seriess on your Patreon because obviously you have.

998
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 6: The Anything Joe Biden is going to Patreon, Okay, any

999
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 6: series I do, we did Journey put on Patreon.

1000
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 8: So that's what I'm saying, Like journeys on there. That's

1001
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 8: that's a little bit different than.

1002
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, just like that was a Patreon exclusive, right, you

1003
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Yeah, anything I do is going

1004
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 6: to hit Patreon. Even what's going to YouTube, We'll go

1005
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 6: to Patreon perks, Like there has to be some perks here. Yeah,

1006
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 6: it has to be able to get you some viazine

1007
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 6: or something if you need it or something weird, you know,

1008
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 6: you call down there with a weird chust.

1009
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1010
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 8: So I mean, what's the retention like for because you

1011
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 8: do obviously millions of.

1012
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 5: Listeners out of their minds, out of this world.

1013
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, they can't fuck with me on Patreon no period

1014
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: in general, my retentions out as world.

1015
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: But you have a you have a very cult following,

1016
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 4: Like people really listen to it.

1017
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: They don't play about me. They just they don't play

1018
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 6: about me. They're there, I want to say, from eighty

1019
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: percent of the time.

1020
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 4: You don't. You're not You're not into live shows anymore.

1021
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 5: Huh. I hate them.

1022
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 6: Why it's my reaction to it's my reaction to them

1023
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 6: capping the market because all the fuck tards went and

1024
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 6: fucked it up. Who because the fuck tards fucked it up.

1025
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 6: They're not gonna pigeonhole me into what they do with

1026
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 6: the rappers, which just go get your money on the road, No,

1027
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 6: because that's the way, right, that's the music way. Yeah, No,

1028
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 6: not tricking me in this space.

1029
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: But you just don't like traveling, and I.

1030
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 6: Don't mind traveling at all when it makes sense, it

1031
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 6: makes sense, right. You always want to see the fans,

1032
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 6: You always want to see the fans, you always want

1033
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 6: to speak to them.

1034
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 5: But I'm an introvert at my core.

1035
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 6: If there's a way to get this done and not

1036
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 6: be in front of so many people, then I'm gonna

1037
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 6: always prefer that. And then when you get in a

1038
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 6: road and just see what they do with some of

1039
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 6: the expenses and the costs and get expensive. We were

1040
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 6: traveling with a crew of what ten or twelve? I

1041
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 6: was traveling with a crew of twelve. And there's a

1042
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 6: lot from the fact I put you like this. The

1043
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 6: tour that I canceled was guaranteed money seven figures pre pandemic.

1044
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: No just now, just now recently.

1045
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 6: And I didn't go just because, not just because, I mean,

1046
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 6: there was reasons in that, but one of them was no, no,

1047
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 6: we don't have to we don't have to do this.

1048
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 6: We don't have to do this right now, right like

1049
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,959
Speaker 6: we're a year and a half and you can't sleep

1050
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 6: on the process. I'm a year and a half in

1051
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 6: with Ice and ish Ice just quit his job. It's

1052
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 6: just still running his business. Like when me and the

1053
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: old crew went on tour, I ain't gonna hold you.

1054
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 6: We was busting our ass to do two podcasts a

1055
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 6: week and tour.

1056
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 5: How we never skipped the podcast sensitives, so you record

1057
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 5: we were landing. It was days.

1058
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 6: Ericsson flew into Florida, filmed the Pond, and flew right

1059
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 6: back while we stayed in Like, it's just a lot.

1060
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 5: It's a lot. So you got to be ready for that.

1061
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 5: You gotta know, I would say, that's the part that

1062
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 5: people don't even realize.

1063
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 6: You got to be built for that. It's not just

1064
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 6: about money at that point. Yes, the extra to tour

1065
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 6: money is nice around the holidays when you get that

1066
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 6: extra little bumps like oh all right, let's rock and roll.

1067
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 6: But right now there were other things for us to

1068
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 6: focus on that that that money was, that's that'll be there,

1069
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 6: that's the eight ball by the Courton pocket. If you

1070
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 6: continue doing what you do what you do, then that

1071
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 6: opportunity will be there.

1072
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: How how is the not even the transition?

1073
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 6: But it needs to be reimagined. I feel like, imagine

1074
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 6: it needs to be reimagined. What do you mean, like

1075
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 6: what you're all doing?

1076
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 5: That is?

1077
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: That is a different spin on it, Not just a

1078
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: regular show.

1079
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 5: Not just get out there and now you do your

1080
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 5: part in front of some people and now you.

1081
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 4: Go, yeah, bring somebody else. You got to be an experience.

1082
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: It's an experience. You got to create an experience.

1083
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1084
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 8: Honestly, I was gonna say, how do you how do

1085
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 8: you feel or manage being the talent but also being

1086
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 8: the face of the brand, the face of the business

1087
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 8: cusition you said with the old cast it was one thing, right,

1088
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 8: and then the new cast looking at us, we're only

1089
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 8: a year and a half in, right, but you're building

1090
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 8: the brand, so and and I learned business and being

1091
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 8: in the business, and I learned so much from just

1092
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 8: like whatever went on with the old crew, right, Like Mike,

1093
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 8: it might have been times where the whole crew was overworked,

1094
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 8: but I didn't notice it.

1095
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 5: I didn't.

1096
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 6: I didn't see that because I'm just i'ma work all

1097
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 6: of man. So now we take mad days off, mad

1098
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 6: days off. That's something I picked up from.

1099
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 5: Then.

1100
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 6: So it's just different ways of handling. Like we're a

1101
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 6: year and a half in. I think back when we

1102
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 6: were a year and.

1103
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: A half in.

1104
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 6: Like, it's just different ways to measure this.

1105
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 5: I don't compare.

1106
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 6: It's two totally different shows at two totally different times

1107
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 6: in the world. Right Like when we started, it was

1108
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 6: still kind of the wild wild West, Like some of

1109
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 6: our early episodes probably need to be pulled, being honest,

1110
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 6: but today, right like, different times calls for different conversations

1111
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 6: to be had and yeah, that's what the part I.

1112
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 5: Think for me is indicative of. Now that's what it

1113
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 5: sounds like.

1114
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: Now, So okay, what happened with the roy and Wall situation?

1115
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 6: Unhappiness, unhappiness, egos, ignorance, you name it, and it.

1116
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: Happened from a business standpoint or from a person like

1117
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: what ended the relationship? Was it business finances or was

1118
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: it personalities clashing?

1119
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 6: All of it combination? It is probably all of it,

1120
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 6: all of it. I'm down to get specific, but it

1121
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 6: was really.

1122
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 5: All of it.

1123
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 4: But looking back on it, all, right, do you think

1124
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 4: you had some level of responsibility to play in that situation?

1125
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 6: It was my job delete it and it didn't get done,

1126
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 6: soil you failed, don't matter if you went to game seven,

1127
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 6: like if you lost game seven and the coach didn't

1128
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 6: get the job done.

1129
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 5: So it was my job.

1130
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 4: So is it a thing going forward of explaining to

1131
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 4: different people as far as this is the play, this

1132
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: is the financial play, this is the equity play. So

1133
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: it's a clear level of understanding. We see it happen

1134
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: with a lot of different shows. Right matth fIF we

1135
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 4: just did his show. He has some people that actually

1136
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: left his show. It seems like this is something that's

1137
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: a reoccurring situation, not just with you, but on an

1138
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: ongoing basis from a variety of different shows.

1139
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.

1140
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: What is the issue, because we would like to try

1141
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 4: to avoid this show. To be completely honest with you

1142
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: about it, At the root of it is trust. At

1143
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 4: the root of it is probably trust.

1144
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 6: I don't want to speak for anybody else, but looking back,

1145
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 6: they clearly didn't trust me, And on the flip side,

1146
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 6: I didn't trust them, and no relationship could really prosper

1147
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 6: right like that right, Like if I just take what

1148
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 6: I've heard them saying, Yo, we want to present we

1149
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 6: want some equity or some shit like we want to

1150
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 6: own some shit, right, And I take that at face value.

1151
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 6: The truth is if from being real, I didn't trust

1152
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 6: them in that capacity, And when you have to tell

1153
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 6: your friends or when you think trying to figure out

1154
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 6: to tell your friends, hey, I don't trust you in

1155
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 6: this capacity, it's still unfear for you to say, but

1156
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 6: I want to keep you in this capacity, Like if

1157
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 6: y'all have a way to go grow and sprout.

1158
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 5: I don't want to step on it.

1159
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 6: But by the time there's no time that information is

1160
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: never divulged because on the flip side, there was no trust.

1161
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 5: So we are already looking at you a certain way.

1162
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 6: So now at the end of the world there's two

1163
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 6: three people looking at each other differently.

1164
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, hard to prosper like that.

1165
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 8: So I mean, at the end of it, there comes

1166
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 8: a time where you have to look at yourself and say,

1167
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 8: this show's gonna go on because just the work ofholic,

1168
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 8: can you the show's gonna go on? Is am I

1169
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 8: gonna do this by myself? Or do I need to

1170
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 8: find more people that I have to now trust? Well,

1171
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 8: once you be more.

1172
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 6: Transparent on, once you once you realize the show is

1173
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 6: going to go on, then everything is open blank canvas.

1174
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 6: I can do it by myself. I can get some friends.

1175
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 6: I can sit here and hold a live audition of

1176
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 6: amazing YouTube podcasters to come sit here. I could bring

1177
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 6: some girls in here, I could call some lebs in here.

1178
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 6: Once you realize it gotta go on, ya got go on?

1179
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 5: Go on?

1180
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 6: Unless you think unless you think huh, I said that probably.

1181
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 8: Would have been live if you had, like, like pick

1182
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 8: my next Hoost type situation.

1183
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 6: Well, well, if I was VH one or somebody, I

1184
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 6: would do that right. If I was Zeus, I would

1185
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 6: do that auditions for the real Joe and it would

1186
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 6: have went. It would have went, and it would have

1187
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 6: went like I'm not a dummy, but nah nah. It

1188
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 6: was about the merit, the merit. And I'm glad that

1189
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 6: my friends were able to come through at a time

1190
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 6: where I needed them. I'm glad they were eager and

1191
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 6: willing to improve embark on this journey with me, even

1192
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 6: though this is not there if they ain't entertainment and

1193
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 6: it's don't give a fuck about the entertainment, that's what

1194
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 6: he's saying about that, But he's having good time. I'm

1195
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 6: glad they're having a good time. I'm glad I'm having.

1196
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 5: It, Like it's so much to be greatful before and this.

1197
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 6: I'm glad that, uh everybody else's eye, I'm glad that

1198
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 6: this part is able to be like some type of

1199
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 6: talent incubator, Like I'm grateful.

1200
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: Do you see people change over the court like you see.

1201
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 6: Something guarantee, guarantee. I wait for it the same way

1202
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 6: I'm telling y'all, I'm waiting.

1203
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 5: For the ship.

1204
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 6: I wait to see because it's inevitable. Yo, When I

1205
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 6: got famous or awareness or people start knowing who I

1206
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 6: was life adjusted, not because you was changing so much,

1207
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 6: but things change now. You got to realize how people

1208
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 6: look at you when you're walking in the restaurant.

1209
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 5: Little things. It's little things.

1210
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: So I look for that.

1211
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 5: And if I issues here, hey you quit your job,

1212
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 5: that means you're around people more.

1213
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 4: What's going on.

1214
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 6: Now? When when you say some shit it might come

1215
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 6: back like a boomerang from from over there?

1216
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 5: How does it feel when it happens? Right? Like? There's

1217
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 5: so much that goes in the player. That's the fun part,

1218
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 5: being able to watch other people go through this step

1219
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 5: of success, that's the fun part. How do you prepare

1220
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 5: them for it? Because this was this is your vision.

1221
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 8: They came in obviously they didn't want to do podcasts

1222
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 8: and they just were supporting their brother. How do you

1223
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 8: prepare them for What advice do you give it to them?

1224
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 8: Because you're starting at the top, right like Joe Buttons

1225
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 8: like that's the top, and they're coming in and they're

1226
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 8: starting at the top.

1227
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 5: How do you prepare them for it? Mentally?

1228
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 6: What I tell them is that I am available to

1229
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 6: them twenty four seven. If there's ever a question, thought,

1230
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 6: or conversation, they want to have about podcasting ever, because

1231
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: you can never You can try to prepare somebody or

1232
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 6: you want, but you don't know what thoughts they take

1233
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 6: home with them. So whenever it comes up, let's kick

1234
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 6: it about it. I want to be that that would

1235
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 6: be nice if I had I have that way in

1236
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 6: and Corey likes people I can call right.

1237
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 5: But that's helpful, and they use that shit, they use

1238
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: that shit.

1239
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 6: You want somebody that is a w the information that

1240
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 6: you can go on, just ask some ship and I

1241
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 6: want it. You gotta trust people. You got to have

1242
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 6: people that you trust around. If it ain't me, go

1243
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 6: find to them.

1244
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: Before you wrap. I gotta ask you a few questions.

1245
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 4: It so much fun, I don't want to even ready.

1246
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 4: Let's see what time is there? Oh, kick me out?

1247
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: Do you you said something? You said something where it

1248
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 4: was in reference to content creators just making nonsense content?

1249
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 4: So do you feel like, all right, there's too many

1250
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: people making podcasts and people should not be making podcasts

1251
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: at this point?

1252
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 5: No, I can never say that.

1253
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 6: I can never say that because it's been such a

1254
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 6: great avenue for me, So I want it to be

1255
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,959
Speaker 6: a great avenue for as many people as it can.

1256
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 6: In that there's a responsibility, and I don't want that

1257
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 6: part to be ignored because if you're responsible in that,

1258
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 6: then some of the ship. What's a responsibility as for

1259
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 6: everybody to determine, it's subjective. It's subjective. But when you're

1260
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 6: responsible for some shit and invest it in a different way,

1261
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 6: then you guard it and view it and treat it

1262
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 6: and protect it a different way. The owner of the

1263
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 6: house treats the house differently than the renter.

1264
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: So but it's like rap right where you have a

1265
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 4: lot of rappers that are not good rappers. But the

1266
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: not good rappers actually kind of help in a situation

1267
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 4: because now the elite rappers, you can tell, is a

1268
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: difference without if everybody was elite, there's no levels. You

1269
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: got to have some levels in life, like you know,

1270
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 4: you got to have the bench player to recognize the

1271
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 4: greatness of Lebron. If this is just the All Star team,

1272
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 4: it's hard to really have a real appreciation.

1273
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 6: I don't look at it like that. I don't look

1274
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 6: at it like that at all. I can't rely on

1275
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 6: somebody else being trash for my greatness to be shined.

1276
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 5: Upart I look at me, Yeah, man, I come.

1277
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 6: We come from. I don't remember how old y'all, but

1278
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 6: I come from the nineties. Like everybody was great. We're

1279
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 6: say man, Barbara Walters, Hey Channel seven, they had album

1280
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 6: whoever was on?

1281
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 5: All of them niggas was great.

1282
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: From immediate from media side, it was a lot harder

1283
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 4: than the regius.

1284
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 6: They geniuses around. Fucking uh, it's my man. All of

1285
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 6: them got the shows now on Netflix. Dave let him in.

1286
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 6: Fucking they all was great. Hey, let's take it the daytime.

1287
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 6: They always great. Ricky Lake, Jenny Jones, fucking people's called

1288
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 6: every every media personality was a.

1289
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 5: Classic Richard Richard Bay Jersey.

1290
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 6: Come on, man, Maury, are you talking about people that's

1291
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 6: thirty years like?

1292
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 5: You can't Howard thirn opiate.

1293
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 6: You didn't look around and just see, Oh they're going

1294
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 6: to drash niggas.

1295
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 5: That nigga's really really, really bad. Yo.

1296
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: Even ESPN, No I love ESPN. Oh man, let me

1297
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 6: watch out say this, No I love ESPN. The niggas

1298
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 6: that ain't the greatest, they hide them somewhere. They hide

1299
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 6: him somewhere. They talk to the niggas. Radio midnight. It's me

1300
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 6: and Sam Sports. We don't give a fuck.

1301
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 5: UPPN three and Mexico.

1302
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, but hey but when you

1303
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 6: cut that TV on in the morning, Mike Greeney is great.

1304
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 6: Yeah great, he's so great. They got the other mic

1305
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 6: away from him.

1306
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 5: That's crazy. ESPN blak. Yeah, it ain't good. But there's

1307
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 5: also barriers.

1308
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: That's that's the gatekeeper era, where you have to go

1309
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 4: to an interview, you have to get greenlit, you have

1310
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 4: to do so many different things where it's already knocking

1311
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 4: ninety nine percent of the people. It would have knocked

1312
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: us out of it. Say so, I'm just saying we

1313
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: don't have a background in journalism. We don't have a

1314
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 4: background times out of ten if we didn't have opportunity

1315
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 4: to just create content just on our own and figure

1316
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 4: it out on the way.

1317
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 5: Wrong, You're wrong. It goes back to what I said

1318
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 5: in the beginning of this.

1319
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 6: Good did some of these niggas ain't getting paid good

1320
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 6: because those that's meant to figure it out, what's gonna

1321
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 6: figure out regardless, that's I don't know what the bug

1322
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 6: you said, y'all. Y'all would have figured it out for

1323
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 6: the nineties in the two thousands now. But I'm saying,

1324
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 6: don't matter your tools, but great ones adapt and use

1325
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 6: what the hell is around. But we have opportunity now

1326
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 6: to do it ourselves.

1327
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 4: You didn't have the same opportunity in the nineties and

1328
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: the two thousands. To do it yourself. You had to

1329
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 4: get put on through the ABC exactly. That democratize the

1330
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 4: whole situation, good and bad. Now the bad size that

1331
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 4: anybody can produce content, right, you gotta deal with that.

1332
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 4: You always gotta deal with the bad side with the gun.

1333
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that, And that's why when when.

1334
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 6: The would find out about a little low hot clubs

1335
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 6: and there we're coming.

1336
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 5: You gotta show the separation.

1337
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 8: You get the white couch, you get the nicest aura,

1338
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 8: and here separation.

1339
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 6: Now you're talking. I was last of the party. No

1340
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 6: people but you who was coming to my old set around?

1341
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 4: But you you.

1342
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 5: Number one show is we might spinning on my crazy couch?

1343
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 5: Is filthy? I said, y'all, y'all want to blame, you're

1344
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 5: playing playing with me. Hold, let me create the separations.

1345
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: Let me create the separate side conversation trick for y'all.

1346
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 5: Did you put that?

1347
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 4: You should have put that on Patriots, that outside conversation

1348
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: that we had for three hours about Kanye about that

1349
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 4: was great that my god, justice was this? Yeah that

1350
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 4: was That's just that's bonus episode. But you're to blame

1351
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 4: for a lot of this. Thanks you really feel because

1352
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 4: how many how many rappers? How many athletes have podcasts

1353
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 4: now have a strong suspicion that they were inspired by you.

1354
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 4: They saw your transition and like, hey, yeah, that's what

1355
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I can do the part.

1356
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 6: The rappers didn't think about these athletes. We always gotta

1357
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 6: watch these athletes.

1358
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 8: The athletes they thought they could do it because they

1359
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 8: saw you do it. They didn't realize the work that

1360
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 8: goes into it. Plus they couldn't figure out how to

1361
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 8: monetize it. Have we seen plenty of rappers create podcasts

1362
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 8: five episodes is over?

1363
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah they're not.

1364
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: And they actually had good numbers out the gate because

1365
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 4: of because of the riot, because of who they are.

1366
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, we shouldn't have showed these athletes ship.

1367
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you something, buddy, They kicking our ass athletes.

1368
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 6: Oh my god. It's just see Pat got a show

1369
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 6: with somebody. Everybody got it was on bar stool. I

1370
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 6: think I saw saw them with they fucker. Draymond is in.

1371
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 5: The that's a game time.

1372
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 6: Hell de pin, I gotta go to the park, work

1373
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 6: on my jump shot.

1374
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 5: As a podcaster, they this niggas is leaving game seven.

1375
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 5: Let me tell you what.

1376
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 8: Don't worried about why there were points?

1377
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 5: Tell you about this future album. It's like, oh my god,

1378
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 5: Tramon crazy.

1379
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 6: And the athletes have more finances than than the rappers.

1380
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 6: So they come right off the bat red five Redcamps

1381
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 6: niggas Cain bouncing off to YouTube.

1382
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 5: If you think about all the smoke, I love them,

1383
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 5: love them. I am athlete, love them. I love them all.

1384
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 5: That's the other part.

1385
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 6: Athletes do this ship and then go get a job

1386
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 6: to network. All the networks got sports show Jail, they

1387
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 6: kick our ass.

1388
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 5: Jaylen got three shows?

1389
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 4: Is that a podcast?

1390
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 5: He has?

1391
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 6: Jail got a show everywhere? Every jailing Jacobe. They turned

1392
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 6: it into a podcast.

1393
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 5: The rappers.

1394
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: What rapper has been successful in podcasting on?

1395
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 6: Jayalen words so much. You got divorced and nobody noticed,

1396
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 6: Nobody asked about it. Let me tell you about the Celtics.

1397
01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 5: Nobody has that. That's my fan.

1398
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 8: That's I gotta go back to this because I'm trying

1399
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 8: to fathom this in my mind, you're not gonna be

1400
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 8: on this couch, father, but the show is I'm gonna

1401
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 8: buy it's a nice couch. But I don't know if're

1402
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 8: gonna say the fat but the show's imprint will be here.

1403
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 8: Do you what's the what's the future plan for it?

1404
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 8: If you're not on the couch? Do you see it

1405
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 8: as like we have this conversation sometimes I'm like, yo,

1406
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 8: want to.

1407
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 5: Park is a brand? Right?

1408
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 8: It started with aj and Free, but Terrence of Roxy

1409
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 8: was just as popular. The show went on right with

1410
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 8: you with the Joe Butten podcast, So it's like that

1411
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 8: makes it a little bit more difficult.

1412
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 5: But what what is the goal? Is it? To not

1413
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 5: be on this couch?

1414
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 8: Because hey, we might go to syndication from a TV

1415
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 8: standpoint or standpoint, let me.

1416
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 5: Tell you something.

1417
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 6: If I go unlocked ten or fifteen more boxes like

1418
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 6: I think I'm about to go do on revenue streams

1419
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 6: of this podcast, this.

1420
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 5: Is gonna be the Hector podcast.

1421
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 11: Anybody show watch this every Tuesday everyday.

1422
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 5: You can just do the show from a truck that's

1423
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 5: fucked up.

1424
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 4: How do you feel about the word podcast? I don't

1425
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 4: use it, You don't use it. I don't use it.

1426
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 4: Your name is shows show, but podcasts.

1427
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 6: I know, when do I say that, I say what

1428
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 6: I want to show, but that's in real life only.

1429
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 5: I'm a podcaster. I never say that I am.

1430
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 4: But how do you you feel like the word? The

1431
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 4: reason why I asked you is that Dane told us

1432
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 4: to stop calling show a podcast two years ago, and

1433
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 4: I got chat from eighty five South he kind of

1434
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 4: and we did stop calling a podcast and I understand

1435
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: why he said that. And wording is very important. Language

1436
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 4: is extremely important, and they try to minimize things by

1437
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 4: how they label it.

1438
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 6: You fucking right did it with wrap and now they're

1439
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 6: starting to deal with podcasts. I'm not mad at that

1440
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 6: at all. My sh it big and they can't fuck

1441
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 6: with me. So I'm not going to change this yet.

1442
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 6: But yeah, podcasts, No, I tell you I'm broadcasting. I'm

1443
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 6: in broadcasting. If I changed this, we would take podcasts

1444
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 6: off and it would be the Joe Budden Show. And

1445
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 6: now when you say that, look, even just saying things,

1446
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 6: your brain just get to go and you see start

1447
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 6: seeing things differently. I'm telling you that the lits taking

1448
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 6: the deal.

1449
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: Is that trademark it should be should be, he said,

1450
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 4: so the game the YouTube shorts, well, not for the

1451
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: people that they didn't ruin it for but polluted it.

1452
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 4: They just polluted a little.

1453
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 5: Bit muddy the water. Yeah, shout out the Redman.

1454
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 6: It's the difference in me trying to get a deal

1455
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 6: in the nineties and my son trying to get a

1456
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 6: deal today. In the nineties, everybody was nice. Everybody was nice,

1457
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 6: every raper that was out, you had not a rap it.

1458
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 6: It was nice. Today everybody in nice. But it's a

1459
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 6: trillion number. It's a different fight for him. I can't

1460
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 6: really help him. And there wasn't a trillion people on

1461
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 6: their phone with a verse. I didn't have to deal

1462
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 6: with all the girls. It's girls now.

1463
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 4: Fuck, it's.

1464
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: You get it from all angles, buddy, good luck.

1465
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 4: Do you feel music is interesting because it's like lyrics

1466
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 4: were very important in the nineties, but lyrics aren't really

1467
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 4: that important anymore. It's more of a persona who you are,

1468
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 4: what you wear, your fashion, all of that stuff. Podcasting.

1469
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 4: Do you think content is still the most important thing

1470
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 4: or people are buying into the personalities?

1471
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 9: I've been said it was personalities, personalities, personality.

1472
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 6: Give me somebody that nobody knows. But as their personality

1473
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 6: jumps off of the page and sit them ready and

1474
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 6: making them stuff.

1475
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 5: Podcasts. No, it's personalities. It's people. People drive them, people

1476
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 5: make them up.

1477
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 6: That's why the ship is whack. As you like, it's

1478
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 6: your fault. Like y'all shit, just fly y'all teaching some shit.

1479
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, but y'all too.

1480
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 6: Come on, man, we walk in, Come on, man, we

1481
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 6: walking into buy on the phone.

1482
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 5: Closing deal the skyline.

1483
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean it takes it takes some sauce

1484
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 6: to do what you do. It takes some sauce, So

1485
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 6: you better go find them.

1486
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 8: Are you in a from a standpoint where you you

1487
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 8: you tried some things and they didn't work.

1488
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 5: Come on, not the e y L sports to tone.

1489
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:25,440
Speaker 6: Holy shit, O my god, they're going crazy.

1490
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 5: How many pieces the guys got to take? Nine? Do

1491
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 5: you ever from your experience now? Right?

1492
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 8: Like I said, being from the ownership standpoint, do you

1493
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 8: look for that star? Are you in search of it?

1494
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 8: For that next person that's like, that's a star. I

1495
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 8: want to bring them over. I need to nurture that

1496
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,520
Speaker 8: person so that they could be the next.

1497
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is why this is why you This

1498
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 6: is the beauty in it I've seen that person a

1499
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 6: couple of times.

1500
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 5: Wow.

1501
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 6: And when I go to them and say, hey, why

1502
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 6: don't we do such and such and such and such

1503
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 6: and such, they're where they start and they say, I

1504
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 6: got a big dog, and you love that.

1505
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 5: You cheer, you cheer that on.

1506
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 6: That means if somebody's listening around here, I mean somebody's listening.

1507
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 5: Mhmm, Joey, what's what's what's next to you? Man?

1508
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 4: What's on your You seem like a renaissance man. You

1509
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 4: went from music to broadcasting on other people's platforms to

1510
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 4: having your own platform.

1511
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 6: You know you're not gonna make a hard left soon.

1512
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 6: My career is full of lefts. I'm gonna make a

1513
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 6: hard Hey, y'all doing.

1514
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 4: That cooking, cooking, you.

1515
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 5: Know we're gonna we're gonna spice it up. We're gonna

1516
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 5: spice it up soon. Man.

1517
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 6: I want to do it all. I want to do

1518
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 6: it all as much as I have time to do.

1519
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 6: I want to do it all. Cooking, show, fucking all

1520
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 6: the shows, travel, live, Love, Feel, Spend.

1521
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 5: I want to be Anthony Buck. We gotta get him

1522
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 5: on your love.

1523
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 4: Your love is on his way that.

1524
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 5: We got to get him on you got to get

1525
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 5: him on there. I got a girl, give me trouble.

1526
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 4: Like the voice, it's like in the background, you don't

1527
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 4: even see his face.

1528
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 10: Oh he could be the Yeah, I could tell Steve

1529
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 10: Harvey got his.

1530
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 8: You know, you know why I support your love because

1531
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:33,520
Speaker 8: people forget, they forget the details, they forget the incouratacy

1532
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 8: interests of how to court a woman. Right, and so

1533
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,480
Speaker 8: if we never see it as an example a correct.

1534
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 5: Right, So the.

1535
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 8: Fact that you know, like I can say, like I'm

1536
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 8: in love with my wife, right, or you might be

1537
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 8: in love with the woman that you're didding. Now, how

1538
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 8: did you get to that point? What did it take

1539
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 8: to get to that point? You see what I'm saying.

1540
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 8: And by you showing the example, now he learns you

1541
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 8: damn that was fly what he did. Now he treats

1542
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 8: his girl a little bit different. He takes into a

1543
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 8: different spot. You see what I'm saying.

1544
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 4: I got a different vision for your love.

1545
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,440
Speaker 5: A little They got to get back to the white boards.

1546
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 4: A little more spicy on my We can have two.

1547
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 5: We got two versions I need.

1548
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 6: It's gonna be too It's gonna be y'all's version. It's

1549
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 6: gonna be loving a button, a button of love, love button. Yea,

1550
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 6: I'm gonna figure it out to it.

1551
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 4: The love buttons are, like I said, you just beat

1552
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 4: a voice. It's like, yeah, how much money y'all make it?

1553
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 4: Come on, get to the chase. Let's just get to

1554
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 4: what everybody wants to know. Are doing more than we

1555
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 4: made yesterday? So that's always good.

1556
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 5: PR team bore good over there.

1557
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 4: It's never about the money, It's about the purpose.

1558
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 5: How much value can you add to someone's life? Money?

1559
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 4: Money can't just throw every every cliche out there. N

1560
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man. Any other questions from Joe before

1561
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 4: we wrap.

1562
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 5: Anything else y'all got for me?

1563
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 8: Man, Joe nineties, you forty two. I gotta do your

1564
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 8: top five albums just because.

1565
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's have a rap conversation before.

1566
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 8: Why you think I'm gonna tell you my favorite Joe

1567
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 8: Budden song? Because you were my guy for a long time,

1568
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 8: long time. I used to I had a kid in

1569
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 8: my class he would not only think he would listen

1570
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 8: to while he would work with mood music. That's all

1571
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 8: I wasn't. Yeah it was it was an alternative class.

1572
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 8: Yeah music altern is class, I say that, but yo,

1573
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 8: it was crazy. I'm like, yo, listen to bronkay, just

1574
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 8: get the work done. Favorite favorite song ten minutes, that's

1575
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 8: one of mine. Two one of my favorites. That's one

1576
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 8: of mine too. So what's the question the best top

1577
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 8: I was one of the top five wives I was

1578
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 8: giving that while he thought of his top five best albums.

1579
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1580
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 6: Ever, man, I don't know. I wouldn't even kick myself

1581
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 6: in as trying to figure out too many.

1582
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 8: Great outs not your, not your, just anybody anybody. Yeah,

1583
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 8: I know you don't have a favorite. No, there's too

1584
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 8: many great albums that played.

1585
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 4: And let's ask let's ask them some some specific questions,

1586
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 4: which which album is better ill Madic or it was written?

1587
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 5: I always say it was written. I always say why

1588
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 5: do you do it? I didn't do that to you

1589
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 5: when they specifically told you that this is what I

1590
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 5: hold against Illmatic. It's thirty nine minutes.

1591
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 6: And this is before they changed the music limbs and

1592
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 6: all that with the streaming ship. But thirty nine minutes

1593
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 6: back then it was considered an EP.

1594
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 5: It's not LP.

1595
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 6: So it was written when that came was the like,

1596
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 6: oh ship had a full yea yeah, not short, but it.

1597
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 9: Was a short album short, yeah, well compared to today

1598
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 9: as long.

1599
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah for some of these. Yeah, but so that's that's

1600
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 5: why I put it was written over not because it's

1601
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 5: a better album.

1602
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 6: Both master masterpieces, both masterpiece, but it was written that's

1603
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 6: yours album. Yeah, that's album, and I.

1604
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 5: Played it more. I do I have an album?

1605
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,520
Speaker 8: Well, ematics the centerpiece of it.

1606
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 4: Okay, it's my favorite greatest battle rapper of all song

1607
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 4: get into that?

1608
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 6: I don't know, and you participated in it as well,

1609
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 6: But that's y'all. I don't like to box myself. I

1610
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 6: feel like only hip hop makes us do that, so

1611
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 6: I don't. I train myself not to do it anymore.

1612
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 6: That's why. So I don't can't name my five favorite

1613
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 6: I was stuck on the island. Which albums would I bring?

1614
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 5: Like? What are you taking? Yeah? I can't. I can't.

1615
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 6: As far as the battle rappers, I recognize the greats,

1616
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 6: like the greats. Who's the best? I don't know? But

1617
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 6: lux like, come on, LUs, move the guys.

1618
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 5: For me. See, I couldn't do that either.

1619
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 6: It's a red Man is from here, Trenches from here,

1620
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 6: and Lauren.

1621
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 5: Is from here. I think it was a rushmore.

1622
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 6: What do you want me to do and shout out

1623
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 6: to Ransom killing right now, I'll be out out now.

1624
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 5: So, I mean, it's just great Jersey's.

1625
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 6: Doing artifacts from from Jersey to wasn't it artifacts is Newark?

1626
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 6: It's from Jersey. Yeah, along side of the tracks we

1627
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 6: got Chill robed g. I mean, don't let me get

1628
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 6: into Jersey history. But Shack Shack, I claim Tupac even

1629
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 6: if we're not supposed to have. He was here enough, Tupac. Yeah,

1630
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 6: he used to live in Jersey outside outside of Tupac's Newark.

1631
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, the outlaws.

1632
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 6: I'll go to outside of Newark, but outlaws, That's what

1633
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 6: I meant. Jersey, Jersey, Jersey, Jersey still Jersey.

1634
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, with Jersey. It's Jersey. Man, it's nice

1635
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 8: over here. I didn't say Latifa's nice Latifa. Yes, that's

1636
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 8: that labor unit. Yeah, Flavor started all right there, Jersey

1637
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 8: City downtown. A lot of a lot of days running

1638
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 8: around there. The King of Jersey City tormenting them, the

1639
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 8: King of Jersey City easily.

1640
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 5: Joey, I appreciate that, man. I'm humble, Joe. I don't

1641
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 5: want it.

1642
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 6: That title just make niggas want yout you.

1643
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 5: I ain't the kining of nothing. I'm the king of

1644
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 5: my house.

1645
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 6: Keny Castle, gentlemen, y'all have so much fun with y'all. Y'all,

1646
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 6: Hey Nati were in a new spot. Y'all gotta come

1647
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 6: by and do all ship.

1648
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Shout out to Corey for help and put

1649
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 4: this together. Answer none of my questions.

1650
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 5: Your question.

1651
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 6: I said how much money y'all making? Y'all dip that one.

1652
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 6: I said how love life? The relationships? Y'all dip that one,

1653
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 6: didn't you information? Niggas know how to behold it. They

1654
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 6: know how to behold it too now. But I love y'all.

1655
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 4: No, I appreciate you, bro man. Anything that you need

1656
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 4: from us, feel free to let us know. Man, and

1657
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 4: thanks to the hospitality anytime. Earn your love too, Coming soon,

1658
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 4: coming soon, let's get it.

1659
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 5: Yes, there.

1660
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 7: My graduates from my school being forced back drop drop, Mike,

1661
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 7: drop back drop.

1662
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

1663
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador

1664
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas. Man of Venezuelan charged with

1665
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

1666
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

1667
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: Donald J.

1668
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: Trump's leadership.

1669
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm Christy Noman, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.

1670
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the

1671
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal aliens.

1672
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: Have been arrested.

1673
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: If you are here illegally, your next you will be

1674
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported.

1675
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:53,919
Speaker 2: You will never return.

1676
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and

1677
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return.

1678
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 2: Lee do what's right, Leave now.

1679
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:07,959
Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected.

1680
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.