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Speaker 2: I don't know if they call it Dallas Stadium or

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Speaker 2: Texas Stadium. We got to get rid of the sponsorship,

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Speaker 2: so it can't be at and T, it can't be

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Speaker 2: Sofi Stadium. It's got to be Boston Stadium. It's got

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Speaker 2: to be Dallas Stadium, Los Angeles Stadium.

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Speaker 3: But France against.

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Speaker 2: Spain, now this reminds me of OKC against San Antonio.

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Speaker 2: Most people thought, well, that's really the finals, and then

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Speaker 2: we found out what happened in the finals. These are

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Speaker 2: the two best teams in the world, They are the

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Speaker 2: two favorites to win the World Cup, and they go

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Speaker 2: against each other. France and Spain. Three Eastern in Arlington,

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Speaker 2: Texas All Star Game also coming up tonight. Home Run

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Speaker 2: Derby was fun last night. I first of all, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't find it and I couldn't imagine being at home

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Speaker 2: with Fritzy because Fritzy you sounded like apoplectic. You were like,

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Speaker 2: I can't find it, I can't find it. How do

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Speaker 2: I find it? And then we realized it was on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Why did they get so nervous?

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Speaker 4: It's not on Fox, It's not on ESPN's not FS one,

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Speaker 4: it's not ESPN two, it's not ESPN News.

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Speaker 3: Is not an MLB network. It's on Netflix, where you

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Speaker 3: like watch movies and The Handmaid's Tale or whatever.

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Speaker 2: What I know they had, uh, you know, the opening

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Speaker 2: day Netflix, and then they gave us the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: They got to do a little better publicity. It just

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Speaker 2: feels like, you know, Bonds and pooh Holes were there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see.

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Speaker 2: Any of this, and I'd like to think that I'm

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Speaker 2: at least socially aware of sporting events.

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Speaker 3: But I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, it's like Netflix and

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Speaker 2: then you had Will Ferrell showed up. You had Bonds

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Speaker 2: and pooh Holes, and I'm like, Okay, they're trying. Netflix

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Speaker 2: is trying trying different things now. Sometimes you can try

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Speaker 2: too hard. Sometimes you can try to dress something up

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Speaker 2: and you really don't need to. You know, there was

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Speaker 2: drama there, there was some star power. I thought the

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Speaker 2: Philly fans were great. I love that they were booing

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Speaker 2: Jordan Walker. I loved it because Kyle Schwarber's in the

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Speaker 2: finals there, so they're backing their guy. So it had

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Speaker 2: a real something to it. And here's another thing. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the NBA will pick up on this,

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Speaker 2: but when you realize the winner got a million dollars

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Speaker 2: last night, that's more than Jordan Walker makes this year.

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Speaker 2: I think he makes seven to ninety. He got a

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Speaker 2: million dollars last night. Slam Dunk Contest the winner last

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Speaker 2: year one hundred and five thousand dollars, Three point Shooting Contest,

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Speaker 2: sixty K Skills Challenge fifty five thousand dollars. If you're

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Speaker 2: the NBA and you say we're going to put out

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Speaker 2: a million dollars for the Slam Dunk Contest, I gotta

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Speaker 2: believe you're gonna get some players that you've heard of,

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Speaker 2: because as it is now, this is a meaningless moment.

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Speaker 2: Now three point shooting contest. Will watch and you will

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Speaker 2: get names in the three point shooting Contest, because to

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Speaker 2: be designated as the greatest shooter, or at least in

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Speaker 2: that moment, means a whole lot more than being the

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Speaker 2: greatest dunker. These will be marquee guys who will still

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Speaker 2: compete in the three point shooting Contest. We've seen that before.

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Speaker 2: But man, I'd up the antique just a little bit

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Speaker 2: based off last night. Now, Jordan Walker is not a

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Speaker 2: big name. He is twenty four. He's in the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: organization now. He's kind of been up and down, but

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Speaker 2: he's a former first round pick. He's supposed to be

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Speaker 2: really good and he's having one of those seasons that

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Speaker 2: you would expect from somebody in the Cardinals organization because

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Speaker 2: they normally have a Hall of Famer in the lineup

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Speaker 2: down through the years. I'd like to know how many

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Speaker 2: years the Cardinals didn't have a Hall of Famer future

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in their lineup, because it feels like

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Speaker 2: it's every year they have somebody there. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals haven't been the Cardinals for a couple of years here.

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Speaker 2: But Jordan Walker last night, that was a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of fun. And I love watching Schwarber. I truly think,

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Speaker 2: like in my mind, I think he's the kind of

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Speaker 2: guy that will go, hold my beer, let me go

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Speaker 2: hit some dingers.

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Speaker 3: Right. He'd be that.

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Speaker 2: Guy the twelve in softball, maybe even sixteen in softball.

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Speaker 2: You know that he would be just hitting bombs. Here,

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Speaker 2: hold my beer, let me go hit some home runs.

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Speaker 2: I'll be right back. That's the feeling you get every

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Speaker 2: time I watch him. Swing, but it was good last night.

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Speaker 2: And Bonds is there. Granted, you know there's baggage there.

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Speaker 2: Who holes is there, but still Bonds has that ability

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Speaker 2: and so does a Rod. You know, a Rod's there

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Speaker 2: with Fox, but you know, you get these guys who

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Speaker 2: bring baggage, but they are also very very smart. Bonds

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Speaker 2: is as smart as any player who's ever played the game.

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Speaker 2: Like the analytics of watching, you know, he was he

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Speaker 2: was seeing these hitters do things that we didn't see

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Speaker 2: and he'd go look at the wrist and you know,

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Speaker 2: and Jordan Walker said, you know I didn't want them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure I was not over using

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Speaker 2: my swing, you know, the energy there. But Bonds was

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Speaker 2: picking out just little things that I thought really helped

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Speaker 2: the broadcast. Some of the camera angles I could do without,

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Speaker 2: Like I didn't see the pitch and not just see

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Speaker 2: the swing and I go home run, okay. But sometimes

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Speaker 2: you want to try to put your stamp on something.

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Speaker 3: And I think we've grown up with the back back

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Speaker 2: Back gone, and we were used to that with Chris Berman.

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Speaker 2: This is something different, and look, I'm all for trying.

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Speaker 2: I just think sometimes you have to look at this now.

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Speaker 2: I love Will Farrow. I didn't need Will Farrow on

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Speaker 2: the broadcast last night. Okay. I think that they tried

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Speaker 2: too hard in what they were trying to do there,

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Speaker 2: but still you're trying to do new things.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just good the way it is.

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Speaker 2: Like March Madness, nobody asked, No one said we got

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're expanding, but we don't have to.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you look at this and like World Cup. World

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Speaker 2: Cup's going to expand, it's going to guaranteed. It went

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Speaker 2: too well, too many storylines and of course more games,

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Speaker 2: and that means more hydration breaks because that's what we

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Speaker 2: need and that's not going away either. Uh, there's too

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Speaker 2: much money attached to a hydration bring all right, well,

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Speaker 2: come up with a poll question, here, play the day,

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Speaker 2: stat of the day, all of that forthcoming. I thought

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Speaker 2: Netflix did okay, right. You know, look, I'm probably in

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Speaker 2: the minority when it comes to assessing these things because

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna look at the minutia, whereas the overall fan

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Speaker 2: is probably just saying, yeah, okay, it was fun.

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Speaker 3: Now they had drama.

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Speaker 2: It helped being in Philadelphia, it helped having Kyle Schwarber there.

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Speaker 2: That would have been great. It'd been nice to see

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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper against Kyle Schwarber. Now, that would have been

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Speaker 2: fun to see how the fans would have reacted. But

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Speaker 2: for Jordan Walker, you picked up a million dollars. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: All right, Dylan, let's pull question today. Well, we've got

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Speaker 2: a couple of Derby related ones. Then PAULI sent this

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Speaker 2: one over. If I were in the home run Derby,

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Speaker 2: hat forward or had backwards. Now there's an entire.

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Speaker 5: Generation sort of my realm that as Ken Griffy Junior

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Speaker 2: I would do hat forward because I would let Ken

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Speaker 2: Griffy Junior stand alone with that. That was one of

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Speaker 2: those Now you had old school. Well, see Donie's disrespecting

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Speaker 2: the game like it's a home run Derby. I think

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Speaker 2: it's okay. Now it's on a formal you're not, you know,

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Speaker 2: going to the prom or a wedding. You're up there,

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Speaker 2: you're swinging. It's okay. I always when I think of that,

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Speaker 2: you know it's Junior standing alone.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Mark speaking to Can Griffy Junior. I kind of

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Speaker 3: wish his plaque in Cooperstown was him with his hat backwards. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would have been appropriate. Now, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: he had to say in that. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know that your football bust. I think in Canton

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Speaker 2: you can ask for certain hair or how it looks.

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Speaker 2: I think a little bit more than baseball because that's

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Speaker 2: know you have your plaque, that's his dad, it's right

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Speaker 6: Yes, So this became a topic a decade ago when

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Speaker 6: Griffy Junior was up for the Hall of Fame. That

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Speaker 6: shows like ours and other said, could you put him

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Speaker 6: in on this plaque hat backwards? Jeff Idelson, the Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame president at the time, said he was open

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Speaker 3: Griffy did not ask for it. That's cool that they're

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Speaker 3: open to it though. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't been to Cooperstown in a long time.

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Speaker 2: I got to get up there. I got to get

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Speaker 2: up there again. Going to Saratoga in a couple of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got a friend who's got a horse. He goes, hey,

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Speaker 2: where do I have to go? He goes, Saratoga. I said, well,

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Speaker 2: Is he out back? I'll go watch him out back? Yes, Todd,

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Speaker 3: They've updated the signage. And I know we have GPS

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Speaker 3: systems now, but when I was a kid and we

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Speaker 3: if you're going in the right direction. There was nothing

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Speaker 3: that suggested you were heading towards Cooperstown. Thank you, Todd.

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Speaker 3: Well any other poll questions there? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Todd actually said this one over.

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Speaker 5: Are you okay with Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez being

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Speaker 3: I guess so sure? Or I am not?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I gotta be the get off my lawn guy.

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Speaker 2: So you're asking me, Look a Rod and I don't

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Speaker 2: have a good relationship, but that's on him. But as

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Speaker 2: a viewer, I still think he can teach you things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's very knowledgeable. And there are times when I'll watch

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Speaker 2: and I'll go, Okay, that's interesting. Bonds, I think has

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Speaker 2: don't know if he wants to do it. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to know what they paid him to do that. But

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm okay with it. Like if Bonds wasn't there,

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Speaker 2: I was still going to watch, and because he was there,

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Speaker 2: I was still going to watch a Rod, you know,

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Speaker 2: depending on the game.

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Speaker 3: Now, then you know, I'll watch.

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Speaker 2: I feel that show is really forced, that they really

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Speaker 2: want those guys to like each other and have fun

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Speaker 2: and give each other grief. I just know that Jeter

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Speaker 2: and a Rod that wasn't good when they were teammates.

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Speaker 2: But Big Poppy, he's always fun, always in a good mood.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know how many times do you tune.

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Speaker 2: In because of who is either the pre pre game

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Speaker 2: On, also The Seattle seahawks being sold for nine point

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Speaker 2: dropped all of THAT nfl information with. Rankings we love

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Speaker 2: our Quarterback King's, Jeremy how long were you working on?

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Speaker 4: Great to be with. You the process really starts at

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Speaker 2: Often what about the anonymity of, this of trusting, you

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Speaker 4: try to keep it simple and then narrow the focus

433
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: and ask questions about somebody's game and break ties that. Way,

434
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 4: yeah THAT i would Say mahomes would still be really.

435
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: High he'd maybe be.

436
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: One.

437
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: STILL i think people just trust.

438
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: Him, yeah.

439
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: If you take the durability out of. It With Joe,

440
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 4: burrow people trust him in big. MOMENTS i don't Think

441
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: Josh allen would be, one just because of what's, happening

442
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 4: like The denver game and what you've seen in the

443
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 4: playoffs a little, bit even though he's had good, MOMENTS

444
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 4: i don't think he would be a clear cut. One,

445
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah Jalen hurts will be. INTERESTING i still go back

446
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 4: TO i just people inside the league are not as

447
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: high On hurts as fans of media Are it's just

448
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 4: kind of the way it. Is it's not this isn't

449
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: an accomplishment. Award this is who's the best right now

450
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 4: with the ball in their. Hands but you can't deny

451
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: he's been great in big. GAMES i mean he was

452
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 4: the best player in The Super bowl probably. Twice, yeah

453
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: you can't knock. THAT i just think people who are

454
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 4: game planning Against philly specifically will, say you, know you're

455
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: dealing with a bottom third passing. Offense you're dealing With

456
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 4: Saquon barkley in the running, game and you're dealing WITH

457
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: Aj brown or used to be dealing WITH Aj. Brown

458
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 4: those are tops on the scouting, report not the. Quarterback

459
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 4: they feel like that's that's more a reflection of winning

460
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: with a quarterback as opposed to winning because of the.

461
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Quarterback AND i think that's. Fair ARE nfl people all

462
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: in On Drake May.

463
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: YES i got some skepticism been pushed back from, coaches

464
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: WHICH i was a little surprised. By maybe that's just

465
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: more like a rite of, passage like, hey you got

466
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: to earn it over. Time but then some of those

467
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: same coaches were, saying, Man Jayden daniels last. Year he's.

468
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 4: Unbelievable he's a top five quarterback now as a, rookie

469
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 4: so they cherry picked that a little. Bit there's some

470
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 4: gatekeeping that goes on on. OCCASION i, Mean Jayden daniels

471
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 4: went from five to, twelve but he's so. Good if

472
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: he can fix the, DURABILITY i think he'll be. Back

473
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 4: and that twenty twenty four draft class has a real

474
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: chance to be an all, timer And Drake may is

475
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: right in the middle of. That SO i will say

476
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 4: he's gotten a lot of. Respect most people really admire

477
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 4: how he won with really not a great offensive, line

478
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 4: not great weapons around, him and he was tops IN

479
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: qbr and yards per attempt and completion percentage and so mostly. Sold,

480
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 4: YEAH i was a little surprised he wasn't ahead Of.

481
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 4: HERBERT i Thought Drake may would be more in that

482
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 4: six to seven. RANGE i was a little surprised that

483
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: he was. Eight BUT i think some of that is

484
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: just old fashioned. Gatekeeping C.

485
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: J stroud's a mystery to and maybe to The. Texans

486
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: certainly cooled off a. Lot what was the general consensus of.

487
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: Him you, KNOW i didn't get enough responses ON. Cj

488
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: stroud to get a ton of feedback because he really

489
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 4: just wasn't a factor in the. Voting BUT i think

490
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 4: With stroud it's.

491
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: And maybe that's the point of, it that you didn't

492
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: get responses that says a.

493
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: Lot kind OF i, mean, HONESTLY i think he got one.

494
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: VOTE i want to say it just Wasn't he wasn't a,

495
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: factor but the abilities, there you know what happened last,

496
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: year especially in the, playoffs it's certainly a. Concern you,

497
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: know some people wonder, like, okay is that a byproduct

498
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: of something that was going on behind the scenes all,

499
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 4: year or just wasn't comfortable in the. OFFENSE i know

500
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 4: was reigning that day And New england played, well but

501
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 4: some of the decisions were. Odd it's, funny, though he

502
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: has a chance to be a fast riser because the

503
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 4: tools and the skill set are, there and you talk

504
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: about quarterbacks being able to throw over the middle of

505
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: the field with. Accuracy he can do some of the

506
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: things where some of the quarterbacks ahead of them aren't as.

507
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: Good SO i don't necessarily think like people are really

508
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 4: down on him where he's not a starter or he's

509
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: his jobs on the. LINE i don't feel like it's

510
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: that it's just maybe more of a little. INDIFFERENCE i

511
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 4: just didn't get a lot of responses on. Him, HONESTLY

512
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: i think the offense he's had. Changes you go FROM

513
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 4: Oc Bobby slowick To Nick, Kayley, like they need to

514
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 4: be able to run the ball and simplify some things for.

515
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: Him and once they, do his arm talent and his

516
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 4: ability can take. Over but let's be, Honest, DAN i,

517
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 4: Mean houston And i'm doing this top ten. Series they

518
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: have the best defense in the. League they have talent on,

519
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 4: Offense they've rebuilt their offensive. Line if they can run the,

520
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 4: ball they probably. HAVE i, MEAN i think they'll win

521
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 4: The Super. Bowl, LIKE i think they have that kind of.

522
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 4: Team and if they do, that then that changes things FOR.

523
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 4: Cj stroud in a big.

524
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: Way wait a, minute you got The texans winning The Super.

525
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: BOWL i think if they can run the ball a lot, better,

526
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: YEAH i think they. Might, yeah because the balance of the,

527
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: team the defense is so.

528
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: Good look at was their last year hot take, Here

529
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: jeremy a hot take In.

530
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: July i'll take Artists. DAY i was at That Buffalo

531
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: Houston thursday night game last year and they just Destroyed Josh.

532
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 4: ALLEN i mean it was Like you're sitting there watching

533
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: And i'm on the sideline in the, game and this

534
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: is the top quarterback in the league and couldn't do.

535
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 4: Anything and they didn't even. Blitz they didn't have to.

536
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: Blitz they just have these pass rushers that get after

537
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: you and destroy, you and they have elite players behind them,

538
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: amazing so they can keep games thirteen to nine or

539
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 4: seventeen to ten like they're. Winning So stroud just needs

540
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 4: to do just. Enough so that's what's crazy about these

541
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 4: quarterback rankings is the strength from ten to twenty is

542
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: as good as it's ever been Since i've been doing

543
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 4: this since twenty. Twenty like you can be the twenty

544
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: best quarterback technically and you can win A Super bowl

545
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: And Sam darnold just did and he's, eleven And Jalen

546
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: hurts just did and he's. Seventeen so but people when

547
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: they were doing the, rankings they were feeling, that like

548
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 4: there's good. Depth, Now Bryce young's a pretty good. Quarterback

549
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: he's not in the top. Twenty he didn't get a

550
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: Single oh so you, Know Kyler murray once by a

551
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: time was good and it can still. Be The vikings

552
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: could win twelve, games and they don't have a good quarterback.

553
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 4: Picture so the game is changing in that. Way you

554
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: have retreads coming back and performing. Well, Baker, Mayfield Dale,

555
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: jones all those. Guys so the quarterback POSITION i think

556
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: is in a good.

557
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: Place do you find that people are rooting more For

558
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: Josh allen Or Justin herbert IF i was going to

559
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: just those, two AND i Know josh has done, more but,

560
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: man it feels like there's always been this ground swell

561
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: of Man Justin herbert. Man just like last, YEAR i, thought,

562
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: well this is the Year Justin, herbert And i'll probably

563
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: say it again this. Year BUT i don't know if

564
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: there's a consensus of people are rooting For Josh allen

565
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: to get over the hump Or Justin herbert to prove

566
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: that he can, be you, know an elite.

567
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: Quarterback he can be A Josh allen.

568
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: Type it's probably. Both Dan With, allen you, know the

569
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: skill sets so undeniable and his will to win and

570
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: he elevates. Teammates didn't have a great supporting cast last,

571
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: year kind of a weak receiving, corps didn't, matter force

572
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: in nature win, games. MVPs like at that, point he's

573
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: he's got proof of concept Justin herbert has been productive

574
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: but doesn't quite have. That SO i do think the

575
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: love For herbert will start to fall this year if

576
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 4: he doesn't. PRODUCE i think he's in an inflection point

577
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: in his. Career you Have mike McDaniel there should get

578
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: you easy, layups you, know easy first downs for the most.

579
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: Part the fact that they didn't have both their tackles last,

580
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: Year joe Alt, Ray Shawn, slay those guys are both,

581
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: stars and they're both out for the majority or all the.

582
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: Year the line was so. BAD i do think that's

583
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: Why herbert gets a little benefit of the. Doubt Greg

584
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: roman was his offensive coordinator the last two. Years one

585
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: of the best run game coordinators of the last. Decade

586
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: really good in that, regard but the passing game took

587
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: him back seat a little. Bit so he's Had he's

588
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: had some extenuating circumstances THAT i think people do give

589
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: him benefit of the. Doubt still think that changes this, year,

590
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: though it's time to. Produce Caleb williams mixed. Reviews mixed,

591
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: reviews but he was a pretty hot. NAME i, MEAN

592
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: i think some people are. SOLD i will SAY i

593
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: got pushed back from specifically some defensive coaches that are, like,

594
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: hey if you look at What Ben johnson was doing

595
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: With jared Goffin, detroit you know a polished player who

596
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: can do everything you, need like expands the. Offense where With,

597
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: caleb they felt Like chicago probably had have done it

598
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: down a little bit just because he hadn't mastered the position.

599
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: Yet and it is a little, erratic But chicago pushes

600
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: back on that when you talk to People, chicago they, said,

601
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: no he was doing a, lot and he was handling

602
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: all the checks and nuances of the position and he

603
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: was really coming along in that. Way and you have

604
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: the upside and you have the traits and the talent are.

605
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 4: Enormous so even though he's a, radic he does things

606
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: that two or three people on earth can. Do and

607
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: SO i think a lot of voters like that and

608
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: will take that all, day knowing that you can coach

609
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: him up and fix some of the. Issues so he

610
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: was a hot, name but he Was it was. Him

611
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: Jordan Love jade And Daniel Sam darnold were essentially tied

612
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 4: for the ten, spot so they were all deserving of

613
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: being in the top.

614
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Ten, Yeah i'll Face Caleb williams in the first three.

615
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: Quarters the fourth quarter is when he might make me nervous.

616
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: There, yeah but that's that's a thing like some people love,

617
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: closers you. Know that's a OH i do talk about

618
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: game on the, line, right you were talking about that.

619
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: EARLIER i, Mean, caleb it was pretty darn good in that.

620
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: Way is there a dog in there with?

621
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: You, Yes rosie my boss And terror came to say,

622
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 4: hello BUT i. COULDN'T i tried to pick her, up

623
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: get her in the, shop and she she. Left So, Rosie,

624
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: rosie come.

625
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Here she's a got a mind of her. Own but,

626
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: yeah we got a full house over. Here thanks, again

627
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: congrats on the. Article it certainly came out at the right.

628
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: Time i'm sure there are a lot of radio AND

629
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: tv shows that owe you a debt of gratitude there

630
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: to give us. Something when does the next position come?

631
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: Out so today it was, Linebackers, yeah thank You dan very.

632
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: Much day was. Linebackers it's eleven days Wide receivers will Be.

633
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: Wednesday that's a good. One it's always a hot. Topic

634
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: and then safeties are the last day On thursday and

635
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: the we're. Done so eleven, days eleven positions. That you,

636
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: know when everybody takes off In july's that's WHEN i,

637
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: shine you, know and give you got something to talk.

638
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: About let me know when you do long, snappers we'll

639
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: have you back on.

640
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: Again probably probably won't be doing, that you, know for

641
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 4: you if it's a special.

642
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: Quess thank, You. Jeremy great to talk to you.

643
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Again Jeremy, FOWLLLER Espn SENIOR Nfl national.

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Speaker 3: Reporter.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i heard a little bit of her AND i, thought,

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Speaker 2: uh and THEN i saw him put his hand down

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Speaker 2: as if to kind of show the dog.

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Speaker 3: AWAY i didn't get to see a Little rosie. There.

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Speaker 3: Yeah MORE i want that dog that came around and

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Speaker 3: sniffed And. Tahoe that dog Was. Maggie dog was. Gorgeous

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Speaker 3: was that A german short?

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Speaker 1: Hair?

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Speaker 3: God she.

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Speaker 2: GORGEOUS i looked forward to having that dog. Bombs There's

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Speaker 2: rosie right.

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Speaker 3: There look at. That look H, rose how are? You

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Speaker 3: what do you think? Of what do you think Of Caleb?

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Speaker 1: Williams who's your top?

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Speaker 4: Quarterback there you, go you heard it here. First thank,

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Speaker 4: You bud All.

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Speaker 3: Live Ben horny works For Front Office. Sports a.

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Speaker 2: Reporter he covers, deals, finance private equity. Ownership, ben we

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Speaker 2: thought of you when we saw Where seattle went for

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Speaker 2: nine point six billion.

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Speaker 3: Dollars what was your reaction to that purchase?

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Speaker 8: Price, Yeah, dan thanks for having me. On AND i

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Speaker 8: wish someone told me what color shirt you were going to? Wear,

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Speaker 8: uh very you, know historic. Price my thought was that

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Speaker 8: it was in line with WHAT i. Expected you, know

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Speaker 8: it was an interesting process because depending on who you spoke,

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Speaker 8: to people thought this was either going to shatter the,

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Speaker 8: record we were going to be over ten, billion you,

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Speaker 8: know where it was going to be in the eight billion.

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Speaker 8: Range it's pretty close to ten. Billion so it's not

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Speaker 8: quite The lakers, sale but it's the second highest pro

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Speaker 8: sports team you know.

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Speaker 2: Sale adder but you get the. Building where's The broncos?

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Speaker 2: Sale they didn't get the?

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Speaker 8: Building, yes and that is A i, mean that's a

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Speaker 8: major component in any of these, deals Right AND i

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Speaker 8: think we might get into it a little bit, later

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Speaker 8: BUT i think if you're trying to prognosticate who's going to,

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Speaker 8: sell that's one of the aspects you want to look.

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Speaker 8: At you, know what's the deal with the? Stadium these

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Speaker 8: things cost a lot of. Money, Uh upgrades cost a

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Speaker 8: lot of. Money new arenas cost a lot of. Money

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Speaker 8: so having that be part of the deal is a,

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Speaker 8: big a big.

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Speaker 2: Deal, Yeah, okay is nine point six billion a good?

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Speaker 2: Investment it seems like.

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Speaker 8: It you, know from everyone THAT i talked, TO nfl

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Speaker 8: franchise valuations in, particular they're just going to keep going.

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Speaker 8: Up AND i mean the same goes for THE nba as.

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Speaker 8: Well it's hasn't been quite the same level in THE

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Speaker 8: nhl AND, mlb although people expect once there's some certainty

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Speaker 8: on this labor situation With Major.

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Speaker 4: League baseball that that will.

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Speaker 8: Change but you, KNOW i keep asking people what's the tipping?

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Speaker 8: Point when is this going to? Peek And i'm told

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Speaker 8: that that's not happening. Yet SO i would not be

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Speaker 8: shocked if there's ANOTHER nfl franchise that you, know goes

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Speaker 8: for ten billion plus in the.

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Speaker 2: Future but if that's the, case then why would anybody

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Speaker 2: want to sell the franchise if it's just going to

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Speaker 2: continue to go.

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Speaker 3: Up it's a great.

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Speaker 8: Question you, KNOW nfl franchises cost a lot of money to.

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Speaker 8: Run so to your question about whether it's a good,

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Speaker 8: INVESTMENT i mean it.

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Speaker 4: Is these are great.

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Speaker 8: Teams not only are the trophy, assets BUT nfl franchises

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Speaker 8: make a lot of. Money but you also have to

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Speaker 8: spend a lot of, money and not just on players,

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Speaker 8: salary which is a huge component of. It but, it's

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Speaker 8: LIKE i said, before stadium, UPGRADES i mean, concessions there

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Speaker 8: are all kinds of you, know it's it's complicated to

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Speaker 8: run a, team SO i think some people get burnt.

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Speaker 8: OUT i think there's tax implications for some of these

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Speaker 8: people who don't want to just leave the team to their,

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Speaker 8: family which that kind of used to be how it.

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Speaker 2: Worked so, yeah the most VALUABLE nfl team right now IS.

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Speaker 4: I, MEAN i think you have to say That Dallas.

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Speaker 8: Cowboys, Yeah i'm not GONNA i wouldn't guess what their

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Speaker 8: value is because, frankly the value is whatever someone's willing to.

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Speaker 8: PAY i have no sense That Jerry jones intends to

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Speaker 8: sell the, Team but, yeah if The cowboys ever went.

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Speaker 4: Up for, sale it would shatter the, record no.

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Speaker 3: Question the next team that you think will be, sold.

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Speaker 8: That's another great, question you, KNOW i could make a wild.

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Speaker 8: GUESS i don't have any particular, insight you, KNOW i

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Speaker 8: don't want to make a wild guest because people might

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Speaker 8: run away with. It but IT'S i THINK i would

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Speaker 8: look at the kind of components THAT i said, before

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Speaker 8: who has owned teams for a long, time who may

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Speaker 8: have reasons that they don't want to stay in this. Business,

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Speaker 8: again there's a lot of reasons to stay in THE nfl,

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Speaker 8: business but you know there's maybe some older. Owners you,

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Speaker 8: know The browns come to, minds BUT i. Don't you, know,

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Speaker 8: again these are wild.

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Speaker 3: Speculations least VALUABLE nfl team is.

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Speaker 8: Who least VALUABLE nfl? Team that's also a difficult. One

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Speaker 8: they all are multi billion dollar. Franchises EVEN i, mean

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Speaker 8: Again i'm not trying to hate on The browns, here

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Speaker 8: but even The browns who get clowned on a, lot

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Speaker 8: if they were put up for, SALE i, mean they're

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Speaker 8: most likely breaking The commander's record of six point five,

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Speaker 8: billion which now is you know that WAS i think

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Speaker 8: it's like Six this deal was sixty percent higher than

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Speaker 8: The commander, seale which is only a few years.

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Speaker 4: Ago so any of these teams are going to go for,

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Speaker 4: yeah a ton of.

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Speaker 2: Money why Would buffalo not have or you know that

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Speaker 2: you have some teams who have an open air, stadium

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Speaker 2: and it feels like when you have a dome stadium

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Speaker 2: that's year round use if you own the.

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Speaker 8: Building, YEAH i, MEAN i do think that you're seeing

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Speaker 8: a trend of more teams have domed. Stadiums it does

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Speaker 8: make sense you can have other events. There ALTHOUGH i will,

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Speaker 8: say you, know in talking to people and you, know

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Speaker 8: even just, READING i think a lot of these stadiums

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Speaker 8: people think that there's a lot more uses for them

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Speaker 8: than there. Are it's actually really expensive to put on any.

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Speaker 8: Events so sure you can Have Taylor swift, headline you,

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Speaker 8: know a concert at ANY nfl, stadium but to do

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Speaker 8: any other, events you've got to kind of do the

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Speaker 8: cost of benefit.

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Speaker 3: Analysis i'm not sure if this is. TRUE i was

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Speaker 3: told this by AN nba.

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Speaker 2: Source But seattle is going to get AN nba team

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Speaker 2: And vegas will get AN nba, Team But vegas might

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Speaker 2: cost more Than. Seattle could you see that happening of

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Speaker 2: going into the league at the same, time but you're

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Speaker 2: going to pay more for The vegas.

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Speaker 3: Franchise it's certainly.

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Speaker 4: Possible.

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Speaker 8: Now one reason THAT i think That maybe that's what you've,

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Speaker 8: heard and that's what others have said as, well is

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Speaker 8: that there's to, day there's been more interest In, vegas

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00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 8: so there's more, competition so that's going to drive the price.

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Speaker 8: Up when it comes to The seattle, franchise the group

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Speaker 8: that's led By Samantha holloway is the only one that

786
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Speaker 8: we know has expressed, interest and she's really. Aired she's

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Speaker 8: been talking about wanting this team for a long. Time

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Speaker 8: she has an arena that she, says you, know is

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Speaker 8: ready to. Go SO i think some people have been

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Speaker 8: kind of standing away From seattle because why fight a

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Speaker 8: Losing That.

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Speaker 3: Ben great to hear from you. Again we'll talk to

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Speaker 3: you the next.

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Speaker 2: Time the team spends nine billion, dollars you, know they

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Speaker 2: sell for nine. Billions That's Ben horney From Front Office.

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Speaker 2: Sports he covers all of this.

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Speaker 3: Stuff