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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katy Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Ghosts Planets,

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Speaker 1: Haunted Guys, everybody off, from ghostly worms to eight armed

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Speaker 1: specters to ghost bats far scarier than any vampire. We've

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Speaker 1: got a passion for possession when it comes to these

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Speaker 1: cute hauntings. Discover this more as we answer the agel

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Speaker 1: question what are ghost dogs? A very import taste sequel

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Speaker 1: to air Bud joining me today to gab about all

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Speaker 1: things ghostly is corporeal being and host of the Small

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Speaker 1: Beans Podcast Network show Rough Stuff Bridget Greeberg. Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: me not a ghost. Yeah. I like that you're not

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Speaker 1: a ghost because that I can always say that whenever

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Speaker 1: I walk into her room. I just want people to

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Speaker 1: be sure. No, it makes me happy. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's Bridget and she's not ghost. Hey what about that?

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Speaker 1: How about that? I like to make people feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: around me. Yeah. Yeah. I like to assure people of

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Speaker 1: my tangibility whenever possible, Like I'll just touch their face

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Speaker 1: like see tangible, tangible, tangible. Yeah, no, you you never

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Speaker 1: know in these days, and like you got to make sure, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't throw me into a wall. I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 1: through it, right right, Yeah, And it's like I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna Bruce Willis yet in the sixth sense. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna like develop a relationship with me and then be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: but I'm a ghost the whole time. Whoops, can't pay rent. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm very right about Sorry only ghosts books. We call

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Speaker 1: them boo books. Yeah, I don't have anything better than that.

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Speaker 1: It seems like there's got to be something better. Podcast

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Speaker 1: over we did it, We did it, We did that

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Speaker 1: says that's the highest part we're gonna get. Are you

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Speaker 1: scared of ghosts? Bridget Uh, I don't think I believe.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I believe in ghosts, is how I

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Speaker 1: put it to say, no, because I'm a big brave girl.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard not to believe in ghosts, like at

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Speaker 1: four in the morning when like you're like woken up

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Speaker 1: by a creek but generally not like an otherworldly person. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm the same way. I You know, I'm very open

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Speaker 1: minded about the universe, but I don't I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in ghosts as sort of like what what we describe

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Speaker 1: as a ghost, like you know, a spectral being that

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Speaker 1: haunts the earth and floats around, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like like maybe there's some weird secret of the universe,

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Speaker 1: like supernatural, but some science thing that we haven't discovered,

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Speaker 1: when its just some sort of like energy kind of thing, right,

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Speaker 1: like time and time and space salt, like a space

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Speaker 1: ghost host discost coast space coast space space ghost. I

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Speaker 1: love that showing as a kid. But yeah, uh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: but I don't really believe in the hauntings of specters. Um,

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Speaker 1: but when it is the middle of the night and

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Speaker 1: I wake up suddenly, I do believe in ghosts. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I even get sleep paralysis where I'm like, oh it's ghosts,

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Speaker 1: not a person who would be like that, that's a ghost.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's a ghost. But yeah, I think when

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Speaker 1: I was when I was a kid, my my mom's

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Speaker 1: they they were there. Vermont is super haunted, very haunted. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, there's no internet and it's pitch black there.

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Speaker 1: So if sure, if there's a ghost there, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe these animals could prove me wrong. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't like dark, long hallways at night because that's

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Speaker 1: speaking of Casper, though, you get a Casper. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about let's talk about the friendly little ghost that was

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Speaker 1: Casper octopus because it looks like Casper the Friendly Ghost.

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Speaker 1: Casper the Friendly Ghost, he was that ghost with the

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Speaker 1: add because he'd scare people. But then in the end

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Speaker 1: he usually made friends. I think, yeah, he made friends

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Speaker 1: with Christina Ricci famously. Yes, yes, I used to watch

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Speaker 1: It's murdered. The little baby Fox gets murdered by a hunter,

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Speaker 1: and Casper goes to the baby Fox's grave and cries.

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Speaker 1: And then in the end, the baby Fox's ghost comes

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Speaker 1: a what a weird story for children's cartoon? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it has a happy ending, but at what cost? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like the happy India is that the baby fox dies,

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Speaker 1: but at least it's tortured spirit lives on with Casper.

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Speaker 1: and the Casper logic is that your ghost because you

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Speaker 1: have unfinished business. Well you know what that means, right,

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Speaker 1: He and Casper, the baby Fox, ghost, and cap Sper

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Speaker 1: gonna hunt hunter. You know what you did? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I think there should be there should

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Speaker 1: be a Disney movie that's just all the dead mom's

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Speaker 1: ghosts coming back from Avenge. Yeah, ghost avengers, ghost avengers,

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Speaker 1: all the dead moms, but not the Avengers. They'd have

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Speaker 1: to figure out a different name, right exactly. But we

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Speaker 1: were going to talk about octopuses. Uh, so let's do

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Speaker 1: that is that is that? Is? That? Is that right? Octopuses?

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Speaker 1: It's not all his octopuses. It's not octopi actually, because

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Speaker 1: something about the Latin whatever. Nobody's gonna judge you for

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Speaker 1: sounds cute I octopi, Yeah, setway octopi. But yes, it's octopus. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But the ghost octopus is a ghostly pale octopus that

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Speaker 1: lives in the deep sea. It was discovered off the

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Speaker 1: a big, big old head. Technically that's called the mantle

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Speaker 1: which is interesting because that seems to indicate it probably

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Speaker 1: where it will, right, a big lebowski, Yeah, yeah, big

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Speaker 1: And while uh so, it has no pigment and it

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Speaker 1: although again we don't really know that much about them.

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Speaker 1: There are octopuses who do frequent the deep ocean, but

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Speaker 1: they often have fins or wing like protrusions from their mantle,

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Speaker 1: like the dumbbo octopus. Have you ever seen the dumbo octopus? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is a pretty unique discovery for octopus scientists. So

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Speaker 1: Like this guy has a different strategy from the Dumbo octopus,

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Speaker 1: So that's very interesting. And I'm guessing this guy doesn't

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a testament to how unexplored the

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Speaker 1: with your weird math, and get down there and find

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Speaker 1: us more octopuses. It's just so hard to map the

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Speaker 1: It's like there must be so many other things we

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Speaker 1: big old blob. He's a little blob. He's Casper, the

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Speaker 1: friendly blob with eyes. For some reason, the eyes thing

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Speaker 1: you do know? Is it fast? Because I feel like,

419
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, you hear something so far away. I feel

420
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: like this guy has just said dart. I don't know

421
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: how fast they are. My guests would be like, you know,

422
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: relatively fast, because they do sometimes drop from the tree

423
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: like down onto their prey, so probably they get to

424
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: they get that speed of like dropping from thee and

425
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: then unflfurling their wings, so they kind of dive bombed

426
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: their prey sometimes. So yeah, I think, uh, maybe not

427
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: like the fastest of all the bats or because they

428
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: seem to rely on the element of surprise to get

429
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: their prey, but probably faster than they you want them

430
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: to be if you are a small mammal or a

431
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: locust or have your reptile. Have you ever like I

432
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: had to run in with a bat. I have never

433
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: physically made contact with a bat, but there was a

434
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: bat in my sixth grade camp dormitory room that freaked

435
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: out all the girls and there. Yeah, yeah, they're they're

436
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: horrible token. I had had a run in with a

437
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: batwall camping. I was like leaving the camp bathroom at night, uh,

438
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: the campground bathroom and like walking back to my tent

439
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: and I got like dive bombed by one. And it's

440
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: like getting attacked by the biggest bug you've ever seen,

441
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: like a big furry bug. It's horrified, it's startling. Yeah, yeah,

442
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: and you don't know what it is. You think, like

443
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was the biggest bug in the world,

444
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: like the world's ever seen, had flown into my head.

445
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: And then I found out it was a bat, and

446
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: it got so much worse. Yeah. I actually read a

447
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: story about a woman and we'll talk about this in

448
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: a little bit who had a bit of a raby

449
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: scare because she thought it was like a moth. Uh

450
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: that like a huge moth that hit her face. But

451
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: then she turned on the light and it was a bat. Horrible,

452
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: a ghost bat. No, she'd be dead. These those teeth

453
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: are no joke. They are no joke. They actually so

454
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: this might not be something that bird lovers really want

455
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: to hear, But they love to eat budgies or as

456
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: we know them in the US, parakeets. So those cute,

457
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: little colorable, those cute, little colorful birds. I've had them

458
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: as pets. Lots of people have had them as pets.

459
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: They're adorable and sweet. These ghost bats love to eat them.

460
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: Where where do they live? They live in like a

461
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: tropical in Australia. This, Yeah, they yeah, they zero in

462
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: on the birds chattering in their roots. Like if you've

463
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: ever had like a parakeet, you know, they make that

464
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: cute little like, yeah, yeah, they're a loud and so

465
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: the ghost bats will hone in on them and just

466
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: like snatch them up and they eat them head first

467
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: and discard the feet and wings like their pistachio shells.

468
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: It's drying. I mean, I would imagine those are the

469
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: gross part of the parakeet. Oh, the head probably isn't great. Yeah,

470
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how because like I read this source

471
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: and then saying they eat them head first, it's like

472
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: what do they do with the beak? You know what

473
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, the head feels like it has some

474
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: most bone, right, And I mean I guess the brains

475
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: are meat. Brains is meat. It's true. Brains is meat.

476
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: But in a bird that's that's a very little piece.

477
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: He mean I mean no, but you're right, you're right,

478
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: physically small amount. Yeah, I got I got tiny brains.

479
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: So uh it's it's I guess is that just like

480
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: maybe it's a humane kill. I don't think they care.

481
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the intention. I think it's to

482
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: kill it as quickly as possible so that they don't

483
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: have a bird you know, yeah, because like what's the

484
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: alternative eating them like cloaca first? No, because like I

485
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: don't know, as as discussed, I don't think the head

486
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: would be where you really get the nutrients of the bird. Um, well,

487
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: brains are pretty they do have like brains do have

488
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: a lot of good nutrients in them. Technically speaking. Yeah,

489
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean I eat bird uh right, but you know

490
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: my bird brains. I don't eat bird brain eat you know,

491
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: I eat the body of the bird, right, well, they

492
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: do eat the body of the bird. They just like

493
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would think if I were this bat

494
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: to get the most to be the most conscious about

495
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: using because like what, you you chomp the head, then

496
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: the body falls for some reason, I'm imagining this all

497
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: happening mid air, because we're talking about birds probably hanging

498
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: upside down with this poor poor dead burden there. You know. Yeah,

499
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: it's probably a dive bomb because I just imagine then

500
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: the body drops and then you've got to find you

501
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: gotta find it. It's a mess. It's not a clean kill. Yeah,

502
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, I wonder if it's sort of

503
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: like a banana situation where they kind of like chew

504
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: off the head and then kind of go from there,

505
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you have to split the

506
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: top of the banana to get run into the banana

507
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: and maybe it wraps it in its wings, which is

508
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: another thing I do not like about this bat. Oh

509
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: the wings is the wings I don't I don't like

510
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: that I can see through them. You don't like how

511
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: membranous they are? Yeah, yeah, that I can see, like

512
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: like they look like spider webs. Pretty venous. Yeah, but yeah,

513
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: see right through them and all the like tendons and stuff.

514
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: And I don't like that. Well, you know, like everyone's

515
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: at critic when it comes to see through venous wings,

516
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: I guess. But in terms of like should we be

517
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: scared of these ghost bats? Are they a threat to humans?

518
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: And I would say, generally speaking, no, We're too big

519
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: for them to consider us prey. Uh. In fact, according

520
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: to some sources I read, they are rather docile and

521
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: hesitant to approach humans little alone attack them. Like all bats.

522
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you should handle them. You should not

523
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: just pick up a bat. Don't do it less in

524
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: the hard way. This year, let's stay away from batspeople

525
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: stay away from bats, of them their space. It's interesting

526
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: because it rabies is not really problem in Australia, does

527
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: not actually naturally occur in other animals in Australia. That's shocking.

528
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: But the Australian bat Lisa virus actually does exist, and

529
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: so it's that the Lisa virus is similar to rabies,

530
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: but it's technically different virus than rabies. Um, So, while

531
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that the ghost bats have rabies, they

532
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: may carry Australian bat lisa virus. That sounds bad. Yeah,

533
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: it's deadly. Only three cases of human infection have occurred since.

534
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: So I don't want people in Australia to panic, although

535
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I feel like people in Australia are probably pretty unflappable

536
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: at this point. Like, yeah, I don't think they're a

537
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: panicky people. No, I don't think, Well yeah, still don't.

538
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Still don't mess with the bats. It's rude to the bats.

539
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: But also, you know, you don't want to be one

540
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: of the few you people who get Australian bat lice virus. So,

541
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: like I read this this thing from an Australian zoo

542
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: talking about how like their handlers for these bats need

543
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: to get a vaccine for lice virus because like, while

544
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: it's extremely unlikely they're gonna get it, why risk it us?

545
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, um, um, but also you can be afraid

546
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: of this thing's giant boner. And the thing is I

547
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: shared this picture with you because I had to. But

548
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the context is

549
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: for it. I don't know why this bat is understoodation.

550
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's got a big old morning would.

551
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I don't have any answers. I

552
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: just thought you might want to see it. Yeah, I

553
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: do like it's little helmet. I do think the anesthesia

554
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: helmet is kind of yeah, it's because when also like

555
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: usually when you get anesthesia, right like you get uh

556
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: maybe like an injection of something like ivy or like

557
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: if you're getting nitrous oxide, you get a little nose thing.

558
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: But animals too small, these they're too small for stuff

559
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: like that. So basically they just put a big cone

560
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: over their head that's like full of the the feel

561
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: good sleep gas. And then it's like so funny to

562
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: me to see various surgeries on tiny animals like I

563
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: saw I think a goldfish surgery and they just had

564
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: this like helmet of I guess anesthetic for the goldfish

565
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: and we're doing surgery on a goldfish. Is like what

566
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: how is this And what is the point of doing

567
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: surgery on a goldfish it's got three more days to

568
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: live with anything, like even if those three more days,

569
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: it's going to live its life to the fullest in

570
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: those three days. I don't it really seems like a

571
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: waste of money to do you want to you want

572
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: to tell that goldfish that just because it's got a

573
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: torn a c l that it can't compete in the

574
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Olympics bridget athlete. I don't think goldfish have a seals. Actually, no,

575
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: that's a that's in your knee. Yeah, I don't think

576
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: they have knees. They have joints, but they don't have knees,

577
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: so yeah, they have joints. That's it. I I what

578
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I like about this helmet is that it kind of

579
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: looks like the catwoman helmet because it has like little

580
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: it seems too from the angle have little uh like

581
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: flaps for like a little space for its ears. Nice

582
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: and I like that a lot. Yeah, Wait, there's a

583
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: catwoman helmet that has space for her ears. Well, the

584
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: the catwoman um helmets the wrong term, but mask she's

585
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: got yours as earsh If Batman's in space, does he

586
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: have to have a space helmet that's got space for

587
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: his ears, like a little ovens for his ears. I

588
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: I would imagine he has designed alf I'm sorry, I

589
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: Lucius has designed some some cool like cowels space helmet. Hey, so,

590
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like I imagine like a NASA

591
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: space helmet with like two bulbs room for his ear

592
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: point ees and then it looks if if we know

593
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: anything about Batman, it's got ears. He has artists, could

594
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: you guys, if anyone could do art of what you

595
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: think of bat Man in a helmet would possibly look

596
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: like if you agree with my version, which is Batman

597
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: in his bat mask, but he's also in a NASA helmet,

598
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: but it's got two little points, two little nuvens for

599
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: his ears to fit in. I think it's also funny

600
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: if he's in a space helmet but still wearing the

601
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: cowl too. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, right, Like, so,

602
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about designing a space helmet

603
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: that looks like the cowl. No, no, because like if

604
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: he's at the super space station, right, he's got to

605
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: go in and out like he's doing a spacewalk punching

606
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: space Joker. But then he's got to go back inside

607
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: of the superhero a space station, and then what's he

608
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna do? Take off his entire secret identity helmet. No,

609
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: because like he's got to take it off in front

610
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: of other superheroes while still protecting his identity. So he's

611
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: got to have a mask under the helmet. So what

612
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: is he gonna So it's more bizarre to have a

613
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: space helmet shaped like a bat mask and you take

614
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: it off and there's another bat mask underneath. I say

615
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: he should wear the NASA bubble helmet with ear with

616
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: ear space space for his ear ear accommodation, uh nodules.

617
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: That yeah, that makes sense because like also if the

618
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: if the villain was inside the space station, he would

619
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: have to take off the helmet, right And honestly, I

620
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: don't trust the Flash either, he's a gossip. But you know,

621
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, these bets, these real life bats, much cooler

622
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: than Batman in my opinion, not just because the big boner,

623
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: but they're willing to kill, right, Like if the Joker

624
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: had an actual ghost bat, like a man bat, that's

625
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: like bitten by a radioactive ghost bat, and the now

626
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: is like man bat Joker would be so screwed. He

627
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: just like like the Joker would be like, I have

628
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: devised a posson for you to save God, oh God,

629
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: and he just like grab him and eat him face first.

630
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: Ghost Bat doesn't hesitate. No, Ghost Bat doesn't. Ghost Bat

631
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have like a complex about his parents. Ghost Back

632
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: just kills for the fun of killing. And ghost Bat

633
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: is obviously played by Steve Busching, obviously perfect. We did it,

634
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: so bridget ghost dogs. Yes, ghost dogs. I'm surprised that

635
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: ghost Dog isn't a movie. Actually, I'm gonna google it

636
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: ghost to be a ghost dog movie. What's that? Well

637
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: that I mean inherently means it's a movie about a

638
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: dead dog, which is yeah, I mean there's a crime

639
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: crime film, but I don't think it has actual ghost

640
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: dogs in it, so it doesn't count. Mm hmm. I

641
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: would like to see like a sequel to what's it

642
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: called the one with Kiana Reeves where it's just a

643
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Kiana Reeves killing people. John Wick john Wick, Like a

644
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: sequel to john Wick where it's like John Wick Ghost

645
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: Dog Protocol and it's the key little Beagles ghost coming

646
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: back to life, sort of like when we talked about

647
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: earlier with a caspar the ghost and then the little

648
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: baby Fox comes back to life as a ghosts Beagle

649
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: comes back as a ghost, but it has ghost guns

650
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: and ghost powers and so it fights alongside John Wick

651
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: on Wick and oh and it's crossover with Constantine because

652
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: like now John Wick is Constantine also played by Gary

653
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Reeves and fighting bad guys and demons. Yes, and also

654
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: the ghost dog can then fulfill it's unfinished business at

655
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: the end of the movie, and like they can have

656
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: a nice cathartic night of like ghost Dog, you've fulfilled

657
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: your unfinished business of vengeance, right, you have more unfinished business?

658
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: Or let me get some poopy bags, will go outside.

659
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: But ghost dogs, they're real. They're real. But it is

660
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: actually just a real animal, corporeal animal, and it refers

661
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: to a secret society of canids living in the Amazon basin,

662
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: So secret dogs. And I don't mean domesticated dogs or

663
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: domesticated dogs that went back out into the wild. But

664
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: this is a genuine wild canid species distinct from wolves

665
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: and dogs, and they are the only member of the

666
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: genus Attila kindness. They are also known as short eared dogs,

667
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: so they look very distinct from domesticated dogs and from wolves,

668
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: so they have short, stubby ears and ash brown, short

669
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: smooth fur. They don't really look like a dog to me.

670
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: They actually look more like a faussa, which is that

671
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: strange kind of philoforma carnivore endemic to Madagascar. I think

672
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: we've talked about the fassa before on the show, but

673
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: if you google fassa you'll see what I mean. It

674
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: is almost like how to describe these guys. It's like

675
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: you took a mongoose and tried to run it on

676
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: a dog operating system. Well, the first and second picture

677
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: look very different to me. The first picture looks like

678
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: it's a dog bear. M hm, dog Uh is how

679
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: I describe that guy. But then when I see it

680
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: on this from its profile on its side, for you,

681
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: it's it's more ferret like, right, It's like a ferret fox. Yeah,

682
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: that one might be. It looks a little skinnier too,

683
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: so that one might be like a younger one because

684
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: in the bottom picture goes back to looking kind of

685
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: like a dog bear again. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's

686
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: like a mongoose dog and a bear fox. Yeah, yeah,

687
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: it's I mean, they're lovely they're lovely beatle animals. I'm

688
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: sure they would kill me, but I want cuddle. I mean, well,

689
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: the thing is they are extremely elusive, so they'd probably

690
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: sooner run away from you than kill you. They are

691
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: so secretive and shy. There is very little information known

692
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: about them, especially for such a large animal. Usually we

693
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: are pretty good at studying the larger animals, but these

694
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: guys are very hysterious. We hardly even know their dietary habits.

695
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: So from scat analysis, they seem to be omnivorous, eating

696
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: meat and fruit. So scat analysis is you know they're

697
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: going in there poop uh and and looking for stuff,

698
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: and they found some meat and fruit. And there are

699
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: some recent video documentation from November that showed a ghost

700
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: dog scavenging and armadilla carcass, which some people say maybe

701
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe that means that they're a scavenger, but we just

702
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: we literally have so little footage of them and evidence.

703
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: Who knows, like this could just be a one off behavior.

704
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: They could scavenge sometimes and hunt other times, like lots

705
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: of animals who are hunters also scavenged, So it's like

706
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: even the minimal amount of video footage we have of

707
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: them doesn't really give us a whole picture of what

708
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: these mystery dogs are up to. Huh, that's that's cool.

709
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: I respect that. I like an elusive dog. I know

710
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: they're off the grid. They're like the Jason Bourne of

711
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: the animal world, just like spy dogs, off the grid,

712
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: eluding researchers, having a low profile. Yeah, I like that,

713
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: just like off the grid in the Amazon, live in

714
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: their lives, don't want to be found. Yeah. No, they're

715
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: not interested in all not interesting. Look, I've seen what

716
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: you did. I've seen what you've done to dogs in

717
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: the above, and that's that's embarrassing. One look at the

718
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: ship soon and it was like no, no, not for me, thanks, no,

719
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: thank you, no no. I saw one dog in a

720
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: Halloween costume and they're like absolutely not. I saw a

721
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: pug dressed as a weener dog like Chris is a

722
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: as a hot dog and they're like, no, no thing,

723
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: opt out. Yeah, you're not going to breed me. You

724
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: can't tame this beast. I'm gonna just hide in the woods.

725
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: That's very sweet, it's yeah. Another behavior they've been seen

726
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: to do is they use the burrows of giant armadillas

727
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 1: as their own, so they just kind of like find

728
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: a burrow that another animal has dug, and they'll go

729
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: and seek refuge in that. They seem from the limited

730
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: information that I found about them, they just seem very resourceful,

731
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: secretive and clandestine. And yeah, that's that's like a Tom

732
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: Sawyer of dogs. Like you, you built this fence for me?

733
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah, and i'll and I'll eat your carcass. Also, yeah,

734
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: the very Tom Sawyer. Yeah. I didn't finish the book,

735
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: but I assume that's how it ends. Tom Sawyer gets

736
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: the kid to paint the fence and then he eats

737
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: the kid head first. That's why that's where it seemed

738
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: like it was going. Yeah, but I know that I

739
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: don't really have to lecture uh, my audience on wanting

740
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: to say the rainforest. But if you guys want to

741
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: lecture someone else on wanting to save the rainforest, I

742
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: think that if you say, hey, there's secret puppies there,

743
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: that might convince some people that that is a good

744
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: that is a good sway. Especially this first picture where

745
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: it looks like a bear dog. It is very cute.

746
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: It's got big old pause, got big old pause, it's

747
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: got boop snoot. I do want to boop the snoop

748
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: the obviously look disclaimer, I'm not going to boot the snoot.

749
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: It's first of all, I literally could not find one

750
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: of these dogs no matter how hard I tried. Probably

751
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously you don't want to boot the

752
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: snoot of wild animal. But between you and me, Bridget,

753
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: just you and me, nobody else, I really want to

754
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: boot the snoot. It looks like it's got cold wet nos.

755
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: It looks like a scot cold windos that could boop.

756
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: It is a happy dog. It's got a big fluffy tail,

757
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: flashy tail. You give a little EGI little scratches around

758
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: the neck when it's happy. Probably wags, probably wags, Probably

759
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: does a little sniff sniffs, little sniff niffs. Can you shake?

760
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Can you shake? But very very trainable dogs. Yeah, I mean,

761
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: I am getting as much as I respect how elusive

762
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: they've been. Um, I do want to find out more

763
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: about these dogs because canines are quite intelligent, and I

764
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: am curious about like what their what their social life

765
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: is like, because it doesn't seem like they would follow

766
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: the same rules that wolves would follow in terms of

767
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: like pack structure, because their whole diet in their whole

768
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: lifestyle is probably very different. So I'm really interested, but yeah,

769
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: they they do not want me to know. It's also

770
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: so interesting that there's a dog in a type of

771
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: dog I guess in the rainforest. It's hot. It's hot,

772
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: and hume with there, and these guys look like they

773
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: have a thick coat. Yeah, it's an interesting coat though,

774
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: because it really doesn't look dog like, you know what

775
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it doesn't it's bear like or like

776
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: a panther even, you know what I mean. It's just

777
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: surprising that we just know so little about them, Like

778
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: do they have do they have like some like in

779
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the forest they have like some tree

780
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: stump that they do like some kind of paw like

781
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: pattern of paw presses and then like a tree opens

782
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: up and there's this whole like underground civilization of like

783
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: super intelligent dogs or something. I also because like there

784
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: are so many videos of dog and dog like creatures

785
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: making friends with other animals, So I just wonder if

786
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: they're like hanging out with that aunt eaters right, Like

787
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: there's probably a zutopia down there, is what I'm saying.

788
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: Because utopia, Yeah, I mean, you said they might not

789
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: be pack animals. But it's like you say dog and

790
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: you would think they have buddies, right, I don't know.

791
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: They they could be pack animals. I think it would

792
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: be a little strange for something like the rainforest. But

793
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I just I don't know, and

794
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone knows. Because they're they're Jason Bourne.

795
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: They leave no trace. Mystery dog. I like that. I

796
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: like a dog with an edge. Dogs don't have enough edge,

797
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: edgy dogs whatever, just a dog, I guess. Uh well,

798
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: I think that I'll do it for our Haunting, our

799
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: ghost Hunter part of the show. I do want it.

800
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Before we go, I had a couple of emails that

801
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: I thought were too good not to share. We talked

802
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: about the Cicada brewed X, the mass hatching of cicadas

803
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: with Mara Wilson. Uh well, I hope you don't mind

804
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: this email then, which I mean, yeah, hit me, Hi, Katie.

805
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: I experienced the Cicada brewed once during that time. Apparently

806
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: Cicada ice cream came up with it. I never tried it,

807
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: but it was a thing that some people liked. Hearing

808
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: you talk about them reminded me of it. I love

809
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: your podcast. It's so fun to listen to. Sincerely Natalie.

810
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, in uh that it seems that cicada ice

811
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: cream is a thing. Um, yeah, they're bugs, don't eat them.

812
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: There's like a ice cream shop in Cicada, or an

813
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: ice cream shop in Columbia, Missouri, which like they collected

814
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: dead cicadas from their backyards and then boiled them and

815
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: then covered them in brown sugar and basically candied the

816
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: cicadas and then put them into the ice cream. And

817
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: apparently like it was so popular it just like instantly

818
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: sold out. But then like the Department of Health and

819
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: Human Services was like the food code doesn't directly address cicadas,

820
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: but we advised against him. You can't serve bugs. You

821
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: could serve bugs. I'm not sure about this. Like for me,

822
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: the just putting candied to the kid is an ice cream.

823
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: There's something about that that creeps me out. Um, I'm like,

824
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm less sort of grossed out by just like using

825
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: bugs and cuisine when you're not trying to like just

826
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: put them in an ice cream. For some reason, I

827
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like when a bug is just randomly

828
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: inserted into ice cream. I think of like, oh, bugs

829
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: got into ice cream and that's bad. But if you're

830
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: like a pro chef and you're like, here is a

831
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: cricket taco I have lovingly crafted, Like, Okay, I see that,

832
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: not necessarily saying I would eat it. You can't just

833
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: cover things in sugar and chocolate and tell people to

834
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: eat it. It's not fair. It's not fair. It's really

835
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: not fair. It's cheating. But I got this other email

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Speaker 1: from someone who writes Hi, Katie. I was binge listening

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Speaker 1: to podcast yesterday and during the brood x episode, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about consuming bugs and how you would prefer that

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Speaker 1: over cand asparagus. So I thought I would share with

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Speaker 1: you an Instagram account that I follow, just to make

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Speaker 1: a note to the listeners. I did say that that's

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Speaker 1: more of an indictment of canadasparagus than it is an

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Speaker 1: indication of my willingness to eat bugs. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how it sounded like to me. The email continues, Joseph,

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Speaker 1: you and with Brooklyn Bugs makes Gore made dishes with

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Speaker 1: bugs and insects that I thought you would find cool.

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Speaker 1: The kimchi scorpions in deep fried cricket mac and cheese bites,

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Speaker 1: looks awesome. Have a fabulous week, Kaylee, Thank you, Kaylee. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I looked at this instagram. It is what's the instagram?

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Speaker 1: It is Brooklyn Bugs if you want to check it

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Speaker 1: out all. But yeah, I gotta say these things do

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Speaker 1: genuinely look pretty good. I don't know if I would

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Speaker 1: have the hutzpa to actually eat this stuff, Like I

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Speaker 1: would love to say like, oh yeah, I would, no problem,

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Speaker 1: Like I'll eat a bug like I wish I could

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Speaker 1: say that. No. I mean, I think it's a good

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Speaker 1: thing to start to work out, like start to eliminate

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Speaker 1: the stigma of eating bugs, because I think they are

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Speaker 1: a sustainable, perfectly fine and healthy source of protein. But God,

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Speaker 1: cultural indoctrination is so strong it's hard. It is hard

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Speaker 1: to get over. Like some of these things, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I can't. I I would have a hard time. But

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Speaker 1: some of them do look good, like the kimchi scorpion,

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Speaker 1: which is what I think I'm looking at. M I

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Speaker 1: could maybe do that. It's hard to wrap my head around, right,

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Speaker 1: it looks. The weird thing is it looks appetizing a

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Speaker 1: lot of them, But I don't I still don't know

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Speaker 1: if I could get past the mental blockade of I'm

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Speaker 1: eating an insect like it's and it's I totally admit

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Speaker 1: that's like my fault. It's not, you know, but it's

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00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: sure it's your fault. But it's like, well, not my fault,

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00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: but my own psychology. It's not that the food is

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Speaker 1: objectively gross. It's that my own psychological barriers do not

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Speaker 1: want me to eat bugs. The weird thing is ants,

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Speaker 1: Like the idea of eating ants is not as gross

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Speaker 1: to me. That does not bother me either, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder if it's because I remember as a

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Speaker 1: kid I used to just eat ants out of curios.

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Speaker 1: I think it because they're small. They're small, and like

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00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: textually there's not there's not like a big crunch factor,

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00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: but there's also not there like a sprinkle, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're like sprinkles, like you sprinkle some ants on my

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00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: ice cream, you know. I mean, I'm not gonna notice that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I'd probably noticed it, to be honest, I might

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Speaker 1: not appreciate it, but I might still eat the ice cream,

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Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. But I've definitely eaten like ants.

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Speaker 1: I've definitely been at a picnic and have eaten an

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Speaker 1: ant like right, that has been on my sandwich. Yeah.

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: But like if people people who say they like the

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Speaker 1: taste of insects, I trust them, and I trust that

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Speaker 1: it probably tastes good. I don't know. I think it

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Speaker 1: would take a lot of work for me to get

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Speaker 1: over the cultural uh, the cultural norms that I've been

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00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: taught since I was a kid of like don't don't,

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Speaker 1: oh God, stop putting that in your mouth. Yeah, it

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: would definitely. I I wonder if I looked at this

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Speaker 1: instagram and wasn't told it was bugs, if it would

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00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: bother me like my thing. I think I would. I

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00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: could eat it and like it, but you would have

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Speaker 1: to tell me afterwards that it was bugs, right, right exactly.

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00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean if you, for instance, like if you have

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00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: cricket meal, right, because that you eliminate the shape of

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00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: the cricket with that, you grind up crickets into a meal,

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Speaker 1: and then you make like cricket meal cookies or something,

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Speaker 1: and I eat that cookie, I'll pry enjoy it if

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm mid bite and then you're like, hey, that's made

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Speaker 1: out of crickets, I'm no no longer going to enjoy it.

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00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: It's all psychological. It's a high precent psychological. It's psychological.

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Speaker 1: I I also have like this image of and maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I'm a person who like the texture of food. Really,

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 1: you can bother me. Oh yeah, absolutely, I totally understand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: super picky because of all, it's like a textual thing

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Speaker 1: and it's got nothing to do with whether the food

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Speaker 1: is bad or good or anything. It's just a I

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Speaker 1: didn't eat mashed potatoes for years from my entire childhood

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Speaker 1: because I didn't like the grainy texture of it. Yeah yeah,

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00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: or potatoes at all. I didn't like the texture of

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00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: potatoes really interesting. Yeah yeah, I still eate potatoes, but

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Speaker 1: any yeah, anything too mushy freaks me out. Uh yeah,

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00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of the other block that

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Speaker 1: I feel like a bug an insect would have like

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Speaker 1: a deep crunch and then a really squishy inside. It

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Speaker 1: depends on the to me by Timon and Puma of

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00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: the Lion King. I don't know if that's accurate some

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Speaker 1: of I mean, maybe not, but in my head, and

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Speaker 1: I don't like that. Some of them for sure, like

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: witchety bugs or witty grubs. Do you have like cicada

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00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: would probably be crunchy and then really gush. I don't

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Speaker 1: really know if they'd have the gusher's effect. Maybe Okay,

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Speaker 1: anyone who's eating bugs right into me and give me

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Speaker 1: a full on analysis of the mouth feel of different bugs, please, Yeah,

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00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: maybe that will help us get over our mental You know,

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Speaker 1: shrimp are basically like marine bugs. But I actually don't

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Speaker 1: shrimp freak me up sometimes. Yeah, exactly like I think shrimp.

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Speaker 1: But if I think too much about what I'm eating,

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Speaker 1: I'll stop. I think this might be a you and

937
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: me problem. I think maybe we're wed. I think I

938
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Speaker 1: think calamari. I love calamari, but like the minute I'm

939
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: reminded of what calamari is, I stop eating it right

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Speaker 1: right right? Yeah? I well, yeah, I just like I

941
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Speaker 1: feel bad when I eat octopus because I think they're

942
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: like the puppies of the sea. Yeah, but it's there,

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01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: it's yeah, no, no, I'm on the same page with you.

944
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: But uh, but we we can talk. We might be

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Speaker 1: about about every food we don't like. We'll do that

946
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Speaker 1: off Mike will spare you. Guys are a long conversation

947
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Speaker 1: because I feel like we're just discovering this about each

948
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Speaker 1: other and we're excited that, Like you hate food. I

949
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: hate food too. Awesome, you're a weirdo. Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: We do that, but like I don't like the mouth field,

951
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: I also don't like the mouth field. This is great. Well,

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on bridget Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? Yeah, thanks for having me. These are

954
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: always so much fun. Um. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at bridget tweets and sometimes I even do that sometimes. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, small beans, the small beans at work.

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Speaker 1: I have podcasts on their rough Stu is one of

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Speaker 1: is the main one. And then if you listen to

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Speaker 1: the newest one coming out, We're a ou. It's like

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Speaker 1: some exciting new projects on there, so check it out.

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Speaker 1: All about the mouth field of crickets. It's about Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a mouth field podcast of bugs. Specifically. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on the internet at Creature Feature Pod on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: at Creature feet Pot on Twitter. That's f e a

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Speaker 1: T not fet that is something very different. You can

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Speaker 1: email me with all your bug mouth field stories at

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Speaker 1: Creature feature Pot at gmail dot com. Uh and as always,

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Speaker 1: I am Katie Golden. I'll be on the internet, you know,

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Speaker 1: just screwing around. Katie Golden on Twitter. UM also pro

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Speaker 1: bird rights on the Internet where I allow birds to

971
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Speaker 1: take control of my body and post whatever they want,

972
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Speaker 1: because gosh darn it, it's time for birds to have

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Speaker 1: a voice. I think. Thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to the show. If you're enjoy wind the show and

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Speaker 1: you leave a review, I am one hundred percent guaranteed

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Speaker 1: to read it because I am egotistical and self centered

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Speaker 1: and I will read every single review. So if you

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Speaker 1: want me to read the words you write, and you

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Speaker 1: write it in a podcast review, I'll read it. Even

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Speaker 1: if it's like, Hey, Katie, could you pick up some

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Speaker 1: milk next time to your grocery store. I've been trying

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Speaker 1: to get you to do that for like two weeks now,

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Speaker 1: I'll still read it. Uh, And thank you so much

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