1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm Kaylie Short and this is too much 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: to say, but don't go in question now turn it 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: out you. On this week's episode, I'm going to drag 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: you all down a rabbit hole that I have not 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: been able to find my way out of for the 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: past two years. But I think it's led to a 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: lot of reflection and growth and um learning how to 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: make fun of myself, which I think is very important 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: and um a huge component of learning who you are. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: So I got really into the angiogram. I don't even 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: remember how I found out about it. I think it 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: was a Instagram post or something like that. I think 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: it was this Instagram account called Aniogram and Coffee. They're 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: super funny, highly recommend starting there. But they posted this 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: thing about sevens and I didn't know my aniogram type yet, 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: but I read the description and it said something like 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: constant fomo buys it, the plane ticket, figures the rest 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: out later, lots of small plates, and I was like, oh, 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: I feel attacked, And if you feel attacked, that's how 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: you know you got the right anagram type. So I 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: go and I look at my type and I'm a 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: hard seven could not be interpreted as anything else, and um, 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: it's been really eye open anything to learn my anagram 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: type and learn both my strengths and weaknesses and why 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: I think about the things I do and the things 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: that drive you. Each anagram type has a basic fear 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: and a basic need, and for Aniogram sevens, for example, 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: their basic desire is to have freedom, um and to 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: find joy, and their basic fear is of being deprived 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: or in pain. So that leads to a lot of 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: unhealthy coping mechanisms which are very clearly documented on my 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: album Open Book. I I think that the instagram has 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: been a really cool personality test type thing, but I 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: do think it's more than that because it's so thorough, 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: but it's still it's very distilled. Like I personally felt 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: like the Myers Briggs was a little bit exhaustive and 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: people can change Myers Briggs types, which doesn't really make 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me, because you know, your 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: personality is kind of your personality. You grow, you mature, 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: you get rid of bad habits, whatnot, You have ups 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: and downs, but like you are who you are, and 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: if you look back at who I was when I 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: was in elementary school, I mean, I'm literally the same 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: person now just a little bit more refined sometimes, So 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: I think that it's my favorite personality test. I would 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: highly recommend checking it out. But it's it's really cool 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: because there's different types. So there's nine different types, and 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: it's like in a circle. It looks very like sacred geometry. 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: It's really cool and it goes like they found the 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: shape on like cave walls and stuff. And there's no 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: explanation for why. I'm not even going to try to 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: go down that rabbit hole, but it's cool. That's all 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: you need to know. And the types are all intertwined, 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: so you have, you know, the numbers going in order, 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: and then each person will have a wing on either side, 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: so you can only wing in the direction of the 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: left or right of your numbers. So for being a seven, 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: I could either be a six or I could be 59 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: an eight, like seven wing eight, and that's what I am. 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: The eight is like the very bold, brazen says what's 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: on their mind kind of thing, and the seven is 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: like the life of the party. So it leads to 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: a lot of I think, at least to a lot 64 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: of drunk texts that say exactly what I'm thinking, because 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't have impulse control, and I I want to 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: get my feelings out there, but I do feel like 67 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: your wing is not going to be the foundation of 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: your personality at all, Like you'll definitely know which ones 69 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: you're wing and which one is the basis of your personality. 70 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: Sevens have an antithesis with the four, Like the four 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: is like kind of the poetically melancholy individualist type and 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the seven is the life of the party. But they 73 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: do have so much more in common than you would think. Um, 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: but for is kind of like they like to sit 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: in their pain and sevens like to freeze it as 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: fast as possible and just I skate right over that motherfucker, like, 77 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: just get rate past it. It can be interesting to 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: kind of try to understand these people who's you know, 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: basic fears and basic needs are completely different from yours. 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: But we're going to find out that the four and 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: the seven have a lot more in common. And those 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: are the two types we're really going to cover on 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: this episode. But I highly recommend taking a test. There's 84 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: some online that you can pay for, but my personal 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: favorite one is nine types dot com. At the end 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: of the episode, I'll give you like a really comprehensive 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: breakdown of how to interpret those results, and I'm really 88 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing your thoughts. But without any further ado, 89 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: let's get in to interviewing my favorite for Candy Carpenter. So, 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: if you've been following my podcast, you know all about 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: our drunk living room sessions. Um. She also just last 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: week debut her brand new band Church of Roswell with 93 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: their debut single, The Witcher, and it is so fun. 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Highly recommend checking it out and putting it on your 95 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Halloween playlists. Hi Candy, Hi, I'm so proud of you. Oh, 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: yours are cute. This podcast is amazing, Thank you, thank you. 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm having so much fun doing it. I'm so happy 98 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: with my first guests. I am honored. Okay, So, like 99 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I said, Candies of four and it is so interesting 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: to be so close as somebody whose brain works so 101 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: differently than yours, but also seeing how much you work together. 102 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: So you were kind of hesitant about the aniogram at first, 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: and it was really really funny to like watch you 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: warm up to it. I didn't want to believe it 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: at all. I didn't want someone telling me who I was. 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: And almost like fours with the individualists almost like they are. 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: And I remember reading something that you gave me that 108 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: said fours actively reject the angiogram until it becomes completely 109 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: apparent that they are a four. And when it hit me, 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: I finally felt really understood and kind of my fits 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: of depression and melancholia. As you put it, uh me 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: a little bit more sense to me. It seems seemed 113 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: somehow less unreasonable and a little bit more like, oh, 114 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: this is a part of me and not like a problem. 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: I remember once, Um, we were sitting at red door 116 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: and you caught me just staring out. I know, you 117 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: got me staring out onto an empty road at a 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: flashing red light, and I said, there's nothing more lonely 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: than a traffic light flashing alone in the distance. And 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: I was like, you're such a fucking four. I think 121 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: that I could probably take any really happy party and 122 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: find a way to make myself sad at it. See. 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the reason, even though fours and sevens 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: are so different, the reason I saw that moment when 125 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: you pointed out to me and I was like, wow, 126 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: that really is beautiful. It's because I have this childlike 127 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: wonder where I just think everything so cool, and you're 128 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: saying something that's kind of sad and lonely, and I'm 129 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: just like, that's so pretty candy. I think we've been 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: researching famous fours, and I think that Judy Garland and 131 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Edgar Allan Poe are two of my favorite personalities. And 132 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: it's because I love Judy Garland's drama uh in theatrics 133 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: and Edgar Allan pose like dark, quiet sensibilities and I 134 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: will sit alone in my room and cry to the raven, 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: but I will also get up and go forget your troubles, 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Come on good, happy, look on causly. That combination is weird, 137 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: but it's very four. Do you like being weird? I 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: love being weird the whole thing. And I remember taking 139 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: like an angiogram bingo quiz and um it's it said, 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: fours are the rarest aniogram type and they love that 141 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: about being a four. Another celebrity that I, you know, love, 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: that's an aniogram four that's super apparent when you're listening 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: to their lyrics is a lot of small set and 144 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: she's such a great lyricist, and when you really dive 145 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: into her songs, like there's just this reason's reasons I 146 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Drink is one of her newest ones, and that's like 147 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: super four. But then also thank You, which is one 148 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: of her happiest songs, also is just like thank you, 149 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: just illusionment, thank you Providence, like all these things that 150 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: like Leopork and just be like having such a good day, 151 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: they have to thank you India, thank you Providence. Well, 152 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: and you love it. You're such a big fan of hers, 153 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: and she's such an enormous influence on you and your music. 154 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of a testament to how 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: much fours and sevens need each other. I mean, you 156 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: are kind of like the Christopher Robin to my ear. 157 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: You come into my little stickhouse and you drag me 158 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: out into the world. But like I think, I mean, 159 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: I hope that I allow you to explore those darker 160 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: places and you know, get a little dramatic sometimes. Well, 161 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: the night that we wrote Escape, I think that that 162 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: was something that was really hard for me to do. 163 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: And I would say that's probably probably tied with the 164 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: World Keeps Spinning for the saddest song I've ever written. 165 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: And I needed to like sit in it and like 166 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: pull myself into that feeling. And I feel I could 167 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: have only done that with you, because I, on my 168 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: own writing that song would have just tried to, like 169 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: I would have tried to somehow put a positive spin 170 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: on it, and you just can't. And we just literally 171 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: like we're like, okay, childhood trauma and do dollar wine. 172 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Let's do it well. And I used to work with 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: the team that um maybe wasn't so crazy about my 174 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: uh the way that I enjoy things that are a 175 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: little darker. I remember them telling me that I was 176 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: too gothic just because I wore a black dress. Okay, 177 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: I literally when I went to this Christian school, which 178 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to pop up so much 179 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: on the podcast because the older I get, I'm like, wow, 180 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: those three years really done fucked me up. But I 181 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: put on red eyeliner. It was actually lip liner and 182 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: my friend we were going through a fallout. Boy, I 183 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: can't call it a phase because I'm still in it, 184 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: but we're really really into like emo music, and we 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: put it on and then like we've gotten so much 186 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: trouble from the teacher because she said we looked like 187 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: a Satan worship worshiping duo I think is the exact 188 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: term she used. Well, I wrote down a few of 189 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: these quotes from this book that you made me read 190 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: because you're seven. I just need everyone to know that 191 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Kayleie Shore would not accept that I was not interested 192 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: in any because she knew I needed it. And uh 193 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: something else that's interesting with the angiograms that you can 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: have a wing. You were talking about that earlier, and 195 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm a wing three, and I think that is why 196 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: I have survived the world, because my wing three grabs 197 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: me by the hair and makes me work hard and 198 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: keeps me from getting too far down the rabbit hole 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: of sorrow and sadness and self pity. The three is 200 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: the achiever and they're very like they want a gold medal, 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: They're going to get it. They want to report card. 202 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: And three is give me miss types with sevens a lot. 203 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: But a four wing three is like very creative but 204 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: has the tools to to make a career out of it, 205 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: which is why you're here and not writing poems in 206 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: my base base. We both went right for the basement. Yeah, 207 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: it's a miracle we aren't in one, you know. I 208 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: will say though, the downside of that, even though that 209 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: my three wing has definitely helped me um work hard 210 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and keep going no matter what is that if I 211 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: do fail, my four is ready to pounce and go, 212 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: you failed, You're worthless. And I think you know that's 213 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: really not only the threes worst fear is being worthless, 214 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: but it's also kind of the fours as well. They're 215 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: kind of similar that way, where fours are so afraid 216 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: that they're not going to have an identity and they're 217 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: so concerned that their self image isn't right and that 218 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: people don't take them seriously. Um. This is a quote 219 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: from from the book called Millennial Gram that you actually 220 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: made me and my boyfriend read, did it? Says any 221 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: A Graham. Teacher Helen Palmer has called fours too precious 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: for ordinary life because how many times is something totally 223 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: reasonable happened to me and I have called you or 224 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: come over and been like this person hates me now 225 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: and I my life is over and you're like, what, 226 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: It's really just not that bad all the time. It's 227 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: pretty opted. Yeah, I'm sorry, thank you. Um, And this 228 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: is cool too. Quiet quiet as it's kept melancholy is 229 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: a sweet, sweet drug. It's just so for, it's so for. 230 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: I love growing up. It felt like I took the 231 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: rejections even harder, and you're just just slowly lose self 232 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: esteem and you want to please people. And because when 233 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: of four is unhealthy, they revert to being a two 234 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: and two's. Twos like to take care of other people 235 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: and please other people, forget about their own needs at 236 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: their worst. Yes, um, twos are also really wonderful, loving, caring, giving, 237 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: self sacrificing people. They're incredible. But you know, every angiogram number, 238 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: as you know, it's the good and the bad quality. 239 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: It has the wing or it has the line of 240 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: integration and disintegration. So when she says they revert to two's, 241 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: that's the number that afore goes to when they're unhealthy. 242 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: And then they also have the number that they know 243 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: evolve towards when they are healthy, which is really cool 244 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: and it really points to the fact that there are 245 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: upsides and downsides to every number. Well, when I'm unhealthy, 246 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: I think you've noticed this, I end up trying to 247 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: take care of everyone around me, even if they do 248 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: not need my help. And then when I'm doing really well, um, 249 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: I function with the healthy attributes of a one, which 250 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: is like being really self controlled and principled and purposeful, organized, organized. Yes, Um, 251 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: my house goes to ship when I am at my worst. 252 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: So I'm really trying more and more to be gentle 253 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: with myself when i'm fooring really hard and which is 254 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, and reward myself emotionally when 255 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I love that so much. So we're 256 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: going to talk with my other best friend, Jordan Jackson 257 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: to do that point. We're going to talk to my 258 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: other best friend, Jordan Jackson. She is a member of 259 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: this band called High Girl. They're amazing and they have 260 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: some really cool stuff coming out and it's with John Caldwell, 261 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: who wrote several songs on my album, and it's just 262 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: there amazing, she manages want to Jackson. Um, she's also 263 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: a grandmother, and you can tell because they look exactly alike. 264 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: She's a babe, your grandma's babe. Your grandma was the 265 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: first sex symbol of country music. I mean that's a fact. 266 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: It is a fact. But Jordan's is going to tell 267 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: us about how she mistyped herself as a three wing 268 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: four and was actually a seven and define the Yeah. 269 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: So I think you know, as someone who works on 270 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: more of the business side of music or has for 271 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: a long time, it's really easy to mistype ourselves for 272 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: something that's a little bit more right brain. It's a 273 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: little more list oriented, it's a little more organized, it's 274 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: a little more let me check off the boxes and 275 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: feel these successful things happening. And you know, for a 276 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: long time, I really fit into that. And I definitely 277 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: mistyped myself as someone who was a three with a 278 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: wing four, because anyone who knows me knows that I 279 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: am never straight up three. Um, I am pretty emotional. 280 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I like to sit my emotions, like to feel them. 281 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, other best friend that Kaylee was 282 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: just talking to, Candy Carpenter, is a four. And there's 283 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: nothing that four's left more than to convince other people 284 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: that there are four's as well, because they don't want 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: to be alone in their melancholy you know, it's fine, 286 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the three of me, I wanted to 287 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: like please someone else, to be like, no, you're right, 288 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: I probably am that, and I felt that, and I 289 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think I was in a pretty repressive 290 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: kind of relationship and point in my life to where 291 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of things that other people 292 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: expected me to do rather than what I was and 293 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: what I was meant to be. Well. Also, everyone's a 294 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: form and they're depressed. Yes, you know, I mean you've 295 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: been to test this. I legit lived in a one 296 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: zie all of the winter of eighteen, like that's when 297 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: we became best friends. Like this really tough time. And 298 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: she called me to come over her house. And I 299 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: get there and she's on like she's watched like twelve 300 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: episodes at the L Word and she was in her 301 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: papasan chair in a onesie underneath thing couch with like 302 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: underneath a bunch of covers with like two dogs, and 303 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: she was just like hi, you know. And I think 304 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: after that, I started escaping all of the kind of 305 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: binds everything else in my life had put me into, 306 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: and I started rebecoming who I was and who in 307 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: my destiny and like my creative side, and I started 308 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: living in that side of me that I had been 309 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: afraid of for so long because either someone had told 310 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: me I wasn't allowed to do that, or I couldn't 311 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: do that because they were doing that. But then I 312 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: realized that that, you know, I was so afraid of 313 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: being these other things. I never gave myself the chance 314 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: to be good. I was so afraid of being bad 315 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: at them, you know, and and if you look back 316 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: at it, that's a total seven thing, you know. I yeah, 317 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: I know. I can't believe that we didn't see it 318 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: coming more because if you really look at it, like 319 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: you're like working in the film world. You act, you 320 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: manage Wanda, You're also on the management team of somebody else. 321 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: You also were in a band, you were producing people. 322 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: It's like like other artists crazy and so like, I 323 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: don't know how we didn't see that coming because like 324 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: only A seven would have that massive spectrum of jobs. 325 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I don't think a four has the mental 326 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: capacity to have like twelve different specialties. I think we 327 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: love being involved in a lot of different things because 328 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: we have such major fomo with so much stuff. Almo 329 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: is the driving force behind A seven. It's like I 330 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: there have been nights. Okay, there was a night where 331 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: I I feel like I met up with you at 332 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: some point. But I went to three different parties because 333 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't decide which one was the best one. And 334 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: the first party, I was like had to run out 335 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: and I was like not really president that party because 336 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the second one. I got to 337 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: the second one, and because I knew I had another 338 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: party to get to, I didn't want to drink too much. 339 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: And then I got to the third party and it 340 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: was so late that everybody was so wasted and I 341 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: was sober, and I was like, I went to three 342 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: parties and had zero fun. Yeah, So I don't know. 343 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: I think I thought I was a three wing four 344 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: for so long, and then I just started really learning 345 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: who I was and my beliefs and what drove me 346 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: and what made me feel fulfilled. And um, I realized 347 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm way more of a seven. If you if you 348 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: want to talk to me about anything about dating, stories, 349 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: about anything, like I have, some of the wildest ship 350 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: happened to me. Um, I think it's basically just because 351 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: I have this this kind of saying I say where 352 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: it's like I will do anything for a story, which 353 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: is the same thing which is true, which is why 354 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: we get into so much trouble. Yes, yeah, so we're 355 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: great for each other. But also sevens and fours both 356 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: resent expectations and they both love freedom, but it's in 357 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: opposite ways. So sevens want the freedom to do and 358 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: fours want the freedom to be, So they want to 359 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: be able to like lean into their individuality not have 360 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: anybody criticized them for being themselves. And SEVENS want to 361 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: be able to lean into the desires and not have 362 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: anybody criticize them for the variety that they need in 363 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: their life. The one thing that three of us all 364 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: love is cheese plates. And I have a theory because 365 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: I force like cheese plates because it's different every time, 366 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: because it's a very special thing. You're never gonna get 367 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: the same cheese plate twice. And Sevens like it because 368 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: it's like we get to try everything and you never 369 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: get to see anything, but it's like the same things 370 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: but but so different. Um. Some of my favorite uh 371 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: celebrity Aniogram sevens are I always say Miley Cyrus is 372 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: the patron saint of Aniogram Sevens everything she does. If 373 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: you've watched her, I mean I've been obsessed with her 374 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: since I was like, you know eleven, and even Hannah 375 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: Montana like she couldn't pick which one she wanted to know, 376 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Like she was like I wouldn't be a normal girl 377 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Anna Pop start, So was Russell Brand, which if you 378 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: look at their relationship makes a lot of sense. Um. 379 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Britney Spears is a seven Robin Williams an Lee in 380 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: order to Kapian. So now we're going to talk to 381 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Candy because she is actually dating a seven and and 382 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: boys seven's and girls sevens look super different, but also 383 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: dating a seven versus being best friends with one is 384 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: also really different. Candy's book. Hi, Hey, We're all just 385 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: sitting around Kaylee's kitchen table right now, and this would 386 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: feel like a totally normal conversation if we weren't directing 387 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: it into a microphone. They're very large microphone. Candy and 388 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: I when we play shows together and we've had one 389 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: too many drinks, will start like sharing just random facts. 390 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: YOU know a lot about like classic country, and I 391 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: know a lot about nineties rock, and it's just stuff 392 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: nobody asked for. Absolutely, Yeah, we tell a lot of 393 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: stories that no one's interested in about ourselves. And that's 394 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: why I love you so much. Absolutely why I got 395 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: a podcast. That's why I got a matching tattoo with you. 396 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: We have several matching tattoos. I know why you wanted 397 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: to have me on the podcast because I think one 398 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: of your proudest moments as my best friend is converting 399 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: my boyfriend to an Angiogram fan. Thousand per cent because 400 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: he is so contrarian all the time. I love him, 401 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: He's wonderful, but he's very analytical and he was against this. 402 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: He was very bro Myers Briggs. What's the angiogram? That 403 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: sounds silly? And we were fighting a lot back then, honestly, 404 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: And he knows I'm going to say this. I talked 405 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: to him about it. He's cool. This is an oversharing podcast. 406 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: It is let it, let her rip. And we we 407 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: write together a lot um. He actually is one of 408 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: the producers of my band, so we're always working together. 409 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: It's not just a relationship, it is like constantly together. Um. 410 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: And we would clash and we didn't really know why 411 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: we were clashing because we like each other so much. Well, uh, 412 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: Alton is a seven. And so my tendency to want 413 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: to withdraw and stay in bed and like of under 414 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: the covers and cry, and his desire to go out 415 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: and see the world and never experience anything negative, no, no, 416 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: and just enjoy everything. Um we how dare you? Yeah? 417 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: I know well, and I don't want you guys to 418 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: get the wrong oppressions of fours. I really enjoy life, 419 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: I really do, and I have wonderful friends who I love, 420 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: and I you know, don't want to feel bummed out. 421 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: It's just sort of this um, these these glasses that 422 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: we wear that color everything. I think that the quote 423 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: about like being precious though, is really accurate though, because 424 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: it is like you're looking at everything through the lens 425 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: of beauty, and so are sevens. Yes, but sevens like 426 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: don't want to like. Even when Jordan earlier said that 427 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: she likes to sit in her feelings, I could say 428 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: the same thing about myself, but it's because I don't 429 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: truly let myself feel them. I'll sit in them and 430 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: convince myself I'm doing something good, like you know, indulge 431 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: in in you know, ice cream or alcohol or watching 432 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: TV or like some sort of reward thing. But I'm 433 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: not actually actively processing loss. Well. I feel everything too hard, 434 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: and I don't want to. That's something I'm working on. 435 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: If you have a four in your life, go easy 436 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: on them. They're doing the best they can. And if 437 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: you have a seven in your life, please tell them 438 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: to not get another credit card. They don't need it. 439 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: They're fine. The rewards are not worth it. Well, Like 440 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're dating somebody and you're coming at 441 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: them with a lot of feelings all the time. It 442 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: can be really overwhelming. So understanding that Alden just sees 443 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: things differently than I do, and that he processes emotion 444 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: differently really helped our relationship and now we can communicate 445 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: more effectively. Well, I remember you and I were sitting 446 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: um at in my living room and I was reading 447 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: these things because I was really on a mission to 448 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: get them into the angiogram, because I basically like, when 449 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: you have like a outside view of of a you know, relationship, 450 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: sometimes you can be like, oh, well it's this and this, 451 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: but you're just so like, you know, it's like a 452 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: bird's eye view almost, And I was like, well, this 453 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: is just what he's not understanding, and this is what 454 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: you're not understanding. And I was like, the angiogram will 455 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: show this to you. So I'm reading all these like 456 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: little infographics and all this stuff, and I just watched 457 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: all them slowly like Soften, and he was like, oh, 458 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: well that's interesting. He talks about it more than we 459 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: do now, and he will to go up to strangers 460 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: and go, let me help you figure out what your 461 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: aniogram number is. He's connection I make people do it 462 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: in bars all the time, so does he. He was 463 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: talking about it this morning with someone. I mean he 464 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: is really into it. He has had his parents and 465 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: his sister. I'll do the test. I think it's so 466 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: valuable to know the number of the people around you, 467 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: whether it's your friends or the people you're dating. And 468 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: it's not like you know the and I'm into astrology, 469 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: but it's not like the astrology concept that's like a score. 470 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: You could never date a cancer. It's like, no, you 471 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: you can come to find these these common threads and 472 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: then learn what these people's love languages are. It's the 473 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: love language test is also really important, um mine, which 474 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: makes sense is quality time because I want to do 475 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: stuff well and you are so social. It's so beautiful. 476 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: You have such a big heart for people, and but 477 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: you can handle having more close friendships than I can do, 478 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: like I have less. I have like less bandwidth for it. 479 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: You said the funniest thing, so I can. I didn't 480 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: know if I could talk about Andy will frequently make 481 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: fun of me, and I do absolutely understand because I 482 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: have an absolutely ridiculous number of best friends. So if 483 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: you ever on the podcast or hearing me say my 484 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: best friend, Like these people genuinely are, but they're like 485 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: like thirty. To quote the great Mindy Kaling, best friend 486 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: is a tear, not a title. I do love that, 487 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Like you don't just have like a best friend. God, 488 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: that's so limiting. I hate that I have several as well. 489 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: But so Candy needed something and I know a lot 490 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: of people and I was able to fix it. Would 491 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: you like to tell this story? Can I? Okay? So 492 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: my band got locked out of our Instagram page during 493 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: launch week. We've only officially been a band for a 494 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: couple of days. Our first single just recently dropped and 495 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: we had a whole plan and I was so upset 496 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: and I had no way back in because my phone 497 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: number had just disappeared and my email there was no 498 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: way of getting back into the account. Kaylee makes a 499 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: phone call gets me back in and I said, I 500 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: will never make fun of you again for having so 501 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: many friends and I wanted Instagram and He's like, okay, cool, 502 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: got it? You know the meaning of life and the 503 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: existence of the universe head first. Every time. I feel 504 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: like part of my foreness also helped me creatively generate 505 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: and create art that I'm really proud of. It. It's 506 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: not all that bad. You are really unique. Yeah, I mean, 507 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: and I think that this might be an example of 508 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: you being too hard on yourself, because I don't think 509 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: we've been talking that much about oh you're maybe you're 510 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: right when I think another thing fours and seven share 511 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: is we're not. It's not that we're depressed. We're just 512 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: self deprecating. Oh my god, I know absolutely, And I 513 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: think that that's really true as well. And like, that's 514 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: one thing I've loved about the angiogram is being able to, 515 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: like I think you feel less alone in your bullshit, 516 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: and also you find these things to love about yourself, 517 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Like sevens are very cerebral, and they're always thinking, and 518 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: they're always anticipating, and they can move really fast, and 519 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: they're typically really charismatic and can make friends with anybody, 520 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: And those are things I love about myself. Sevens also, 521 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: um can just go like really over indulge in things. 522 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's weird because we have addictive personalities, but 523 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: we can't stay addicted because we get bored of things 524 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: too quickly. Quarantine has affected the angiogram types so differently, 525 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just like just off the cuff. Just 526 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: tell you what probably has been the struggle for each 527 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: fun Let me if I can do this, okay. Ones 528 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: are pissed because the world is unorganized and nothing is 529 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: fair and nobody has access to what they need to 530 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: and not everybody's getting equal treatment. Twos are pissed because 531 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: they want to save everybody but they can't. Threes are 532 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: pissed because they don't have a job in this have 533 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: no like self worth, and they're working on that. Fours 534 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: are are pissed because they finally have like a really 535 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: big reason to be fives. Fives are stoked because all 536 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: they've had to do is read and they haven't had 537 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: to do anything else. Six Is are wearing hazmat suits 538 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: to Walmart because they're convinced they're going to get it. 539 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Seven's have to be alone with themselves and that's the 540 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: only person they don't want to hang out with. Eights 541 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: eights are posting like really aggressive political opinions on it, 542 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: and nines are like, why can't we just don't get along? 543 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: So that was actually pretty active. That was great. So 544 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: that's the angiogram. I am a really big fan of it. 545 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it's really been great for growth, and 546 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: I would love to hear what y'all's types are, what 547 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: you've learned from the aniogram, and maybe if you disagree 548 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: with any of my sweeping generalizations about how we've been 549 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: handling quarantine, but if you felt attacked, that's probably your number. Yes. 550 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if the test works 551 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: for everybody. It didn't work for me. When I took 552 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: the test, I got numbers that definitely aren't me um. 553 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: And just reading the descriptions can really help you. Yeah, 554 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: I would say this is my advice. So my favorite 555 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: website to take it on. It's free. You can do 556 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: the twelve dollar one I did because you know I 557 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: don't do anything halfway, and but you can take the 558 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: free one on nine types dot com. And what you 559 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: do is you go to the r H E T 560 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: I Test and answer all the questions if you feel 561 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: like there's one, because they're not either orse, they're not 562 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: like a spectrum. They're not like are you this or this? 563 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: It's like which one are you most like? You should 564 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: answer as what you've been most like your entire life, 565 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: not in a season, because, like Jordan was talking about earlier, 566 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: she was going through a hard time so she was 567 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: like exhibiting for qualities, but answer like how you've been 568 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: your whole life, because your anagram type does not change. 569 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: If there's two that you're like, neither one of those 570 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: even kind of applied to me at all, don't try 571 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: to pick it. Just leave it blank. And then at 572 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: the end, it's going to tally up the numbers that 573 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: you had for each angiogram number and look at the 574 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: top three that you got, and then from there look 575 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: at those ones and see which one do you feel 576 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: most attacked by. But also an important note for women 577 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: is if you get a lot in the two category, 578 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of women that get miss typed as 579 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: twos because we are There's a lot of women that 580 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: get miss typed as twos because we are raised to 581 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: be helpers, and that's what the two is. So so 582 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: keep that in mind, and if you get the two results, 583 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: be really diligent in reading all the other types because 584 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: it might just be the patriarchy. I think it's hard 585 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: to be truly honest when taking a personality test because 586 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: we spend our lives learning to hide the most authentic 587 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: aspects of our personality from everyone, including ourselves. I struggled 588 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: to get an authentic reading from the angiogram tests the 589 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: first few times I took it because I was trying 590 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: to impress a computer program. That's so funny. I have 591 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: a happy light. Oh, I have a happy light to 592 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: the light that you just shine in your face so 593 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: you don't feel sad. You want to know the most 594 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: seven thing. I got the antidepression lamp, which is what 595 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: she's referring to, a happy light. And to take something. 596 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. As you can tell, 597 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: we're all very passionate about the angiogram. You can follow 598 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: at Jordan Bryan Jackson if you want to follow Jordan 599 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: and then her band is at High Girl h I 600 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: g r L. 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