WEBVTT - See the People Not the Papers | Angela Rye SoloPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native Landpod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Reason Choice Media. Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome Home.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is his Native Lampod. I'm your host, Angela Raie.

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<v Speaker 1>I am with you all today to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>really important pressing issues. I want to just spend a

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<v Speaker 1>little time talking to folks in my community about our

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<v Speaker 1>posture around immigration. We are witnessing people being deported in

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<v Speaker 1>public spectacles. People are being arrested and put on buses,

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<v Speaker 1>put on planes, deported to places that they did not

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<v Speaker 1>once call home. One of the most recent examples is

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<v Speaker 1>about a man named kilmar Abrago Garcia. And this man

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<v Speaker 1>was deported, uh. Nobody knew what happened or why he

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<v Speaker 1>was said to have been a gang member, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump A Minute stration is fighting to prevent him from

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<v Speaker 1>being brought back from an Ol Salvador prison. And the

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things that they're saying in response to the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court ruling around kill mar Abrego Garcia's return to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States is insane. There's a court document that

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<v Speaker 1>was filed. This is the defendant's response to plaintiff's motion

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<v Speaker 1>for additional relief and one of the things that is

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<v Speaker 1>listed here is that as they say that the court

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<v Speaker 1>should deny the plainiff's request, the planeff would be kill

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<v Speaker 1>mar Abrego Garcia for further relief, because the relief is

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<v Speaker 1>inconsistent with the Supreme Court's instruction requiring this court to

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<v Speaker 1>respect the President's article to authority to manage foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are making the claim that you can deport

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<v Speaker 1>someone on US soil who has not done any of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you alley, You wrongfully targeinated him, targeted him,

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<v Speaker 1>you wrongfully deport him, but he should stay in custody

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<v Speaker 1>in our Salvador and he should not be returned because

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<v Speaker 1>it is an affront to the president's foreign policy powers.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was ever a time to think back to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we talked about the constitutional crisis that

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<v Speaker 1>is upon us, the constitutional crisis that we are now

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<v Speaker 1>living in, this is now. That is what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's not a court decision away. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to the Supreme Court and the president and his cronies

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<v Speaker 1>are testing whether or not they could actually overrule the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court. They don't have to comply, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you put someone in the White House

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<v Speaker 1>who was alleged to have ninety one felonies. When you

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<v Speaker 1>get a crook, you get crooked behavior. So you're curious

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<v Speaker 1>about why someone with all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of these.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to say alleged because they're litigious even though

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<v Speaker 1>they don't follow core orders, but alleged felonies, why they

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<v Speaker 1>would break the law. Why do you think a fela

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<v Speaker 1>gonna break the law? Like, we have to buy into

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that when someone shows us who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to believe them. So that's the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>I want to put on your radar. The second thing

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<v Speaker 1>I want to put on your radar is Madawi most

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<v Speaker 1>of Madawi is an organizer, a pro palac Citian organizer

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<v Speaker 1>who supported demonstrations last year at Columbia University. According to

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times, he was detained on Monday. He

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<v Speaker 1>was detained while at an immigration meeting to secure his citizenship.

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<v Speaker 1>This man has been a resident of Vermont for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>While he was at his citizenship meaning meeting, he was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested or detained by ice. Right, this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of new world we're living in. This is most In

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<v Speaker 1>Madawi Again, his mother's his lawyers, his sister nobody could

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<v Speaker 1>find him. After he was detained in Colchester, Vermont, his

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers requested a tro which is a temporary restraining order

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent this government, if that's what we're gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, this fascist regime, from sending him anywhere. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. I want us to examine why this

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<v Speaker 1>is so problematic. A lot of us in my community

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<v Speaker 1>believe that an immigration problem is not our collective problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That could not be further from the truth, because at

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<v Speaker 1>some point or another, at some point or another, these

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<v Speaker 1>folks are gonna come knocking at your door. Let's roll

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<v Speaker 1>the clip of the immigration attorney. This happened to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Really care who they're trying to deport or ask to

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<v Speaker 2>leave the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>When Massachusetts resident Nicole Mitcerroni received this email on Friday

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<v Speaker 3>telling her to leave the country, she was baffled.

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<v Speaker 2>At first. I thought it was for a clients, but

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<v Speaker 2>I looked really closely and the only name on the

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<v Speaker 2>email was mine. Said that my parole status had been

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<v Speaker 2>terminated and I should leave the country within seven days.

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<v Speaker 3>But the forty year old is a US citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's most likely a mistake and they're just

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<v Speaker 2>casting a really wide net, but it's a little concerning

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<v Speaker 2>that these are going out to US citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>Mitcarroni is an immigration attorney working with many clients facing

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<v Speaker 3>possible deportation issues, so her name and email are on

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of paperwork and a statement. A senior Department

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<v Speaker 3>of Homeland Security official told US Customs and Border Protection

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<v Speaker 3>is issuing notices terminating parole for individuals who do not

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<v Speaker 3>have lawful status to remain. If a non personal email,

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<v Speaker 3>such as an American citizen contact, was provided by the alien,

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<v Speaker 3>notices may have been sent to un tended recipient.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really scary that this is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It says that they're not being very careful. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a scare tactic. I think they want people afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so here's the thing, and Nicole, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just acknowledge you and thank you for your courageous work

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<v Speaker 1>in this time. It's a really dangerous, challenging, overwhelming time

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<v Speaker 1>to be an immigration law So Nicole, who is based

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston, received an email that says it is time

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<v Speaker 1>for you to leave the United States. If you do

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<v Speaker 1>not depart the United States immediately, you will be subject

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<v Speaker 1>to potential law enforcement actions that will result in your

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<v Speaker 1>removal from the United States. Let me tell you all

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<v Speaker 1>why this is a problem to me. I was recently

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<v Speaker 1>on a television program and I said some things that

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<v Speaker 1>people did not like. Their immediate response to me on

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<v Speaker 1>social media platforms, particularly on Twitter, was if I hate

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<v Speaker 1>it here so much, I should leave right. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who is working to protect people's First Amendment rights,

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<v Speaker 1>or their Fourteenth Amendment protections, or their their Second Amendment rights,

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<v Speaker 1>or their Fifth Amendment rights. Anyone who is opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>what this administration is putting forth is being threatened. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>those threats come from Twitter trolls. Now the Twitter trolls

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<v Speaker 1>have taken residents in the Trump administration. That is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with. So why I started where I started

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<v Speaker 1>with the two people who have, for all intents and purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>been disappeared. That many other folks who we've seen be detained,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of their background, Palestinian or Arab American, as someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is a Latino. Right, at some point, black folks,

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<v Speaker 1>white folks, it's going to come knocking at your door.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole is an example of that. Sure they can say

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<v Speaker 1>it was a mistake, but you. We all would be

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<v Speaker 1>foolish if we don't believe that this scare tactic is

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<v Speaker 1>by design, and it's something that we've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to. When you get an email that says

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<v Speaker 1>you should immediately leave the country, the country where the

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<v Speaker 1>only country that you've known to call home, not only

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<v Speaker 1>is that scary and intimidating, I don't think it's by

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<v Speaker 1>mistake that they would have sent it to an immigration attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I want to just tell you about why

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to tap into our humanity in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment. I'm sure there are people at home who

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<v Speaker 1>are watching, who are saying, you know, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to care about what's happening in immigration, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make ends me. I just am trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I have enough money to pay my light bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to make sure I can afford these

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<v Speaker 1>expensive ass eggs. I'm just trying to make sure I

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<v Speaker 1>can buy gas from my car. I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I can buy clothes for my kids. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to make sure I can pay my ties

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<v Speaker 1>at my church. Whatever your set of circumstances are, there

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<v Speaker 1>is something that binds us all together. There's blood that

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<v Speaker 1>runs through our veins. Right we wake up in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>we blink, hopefully, we can move our fingers if we

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<v Speaker 1>have the activity of our limbs. We can hear, if

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<v Speaker 1>we have the ability to hear, smell, see taste, if

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<v Speaker 1>we have those abilities. But if we are breathing, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's buy an assisted device or not, humanity, that is

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<v Speaker 1>the common thing that binds us all together in this

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<v Speaker 1>moment where people are feeling attacked on every side, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to lead with our humanity. We've got to lead

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<v Speaker 1>with our humanity because the moment we prefer ourselves over

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<v Speaker 1>someone else, the moment their struggle, their trial, their issue

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter to us. We are essentially doing the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I don't know if you all have ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen someone trip and fall, right, just so, say you're

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<v Speaker 1>outside and you see someone trip and fall. Imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>number of people that stop to say, hey, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I help you up? Is there anything you need?

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<v Speaker 1>Versus the person that just walks by. And I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the parable in the Bible of the Good Samaritan, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the person that just walks by. And then finally there's

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<v Speaker 1>that one person that stops to say, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>We have to be in an era, even with fascism

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House, We've got to be in an

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<v Speaker 1>arrow where we stop to say, but are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you need? How can I help? If you're

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<v Speaker 1>too busy, if you're too overwhelmed to just say are

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<v Speaker 1>you okay? We've got some we got to redoce some

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<v Speaker 1>things because we cannot leave our humanity at the door

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<v Speaker 1>when people are suffering like this, because how would we

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<v Speaker 1>want someone to show up for us? I think my

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<v Speaker 1>trauma response in this life is often overperforming and doing

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<v Speaker 1>because I just want somebody to do that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that in my darkest moment,

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<v Speaker 1>in my most challenging time, I'm not by myself, else

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<v Speaker 1>that I can stand together with other human beings who

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<v Speaker 1>have the same need or a different one, to pitch

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<v Speaker 1>in and say are you okay? Or how can I help?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm telling you all this, I'm starting to tear

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<v Speaker 1>up because I'm thinking about these images. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>put up the images from the El Salvador in prison

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<v Speaker 1>so we can look at something that looks very familiar

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<v Speaker 1>to that in history. We can put that image up

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<v Speaker 1>there's an image of men being brought into prison, being tied,

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<v Speaker 1>their hands being tied behind their backs, their legs overlapping

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<v Speaker 1>with one another, their faces in mass in masks, with

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<v Speaker 1>their faces buried into the small of the back of

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<v Speaker 1>their neighbor. And there are rows and rows and rows

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<v Speaker 1>of these men whose heads have been shaved. And it

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of something very very traumatic in my own ancestry,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the image of people who were forced

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<v Speaker 1>out of their homes, snatched from their loved ones, from

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<v Speaker 1>the continent, the motherland, Africa. And so when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at this image of the belly of a slave ship

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<v Speaker 1>and you think about the image of these men who

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<v Speaker 1>are shackled together the same way our ancestors were shackled together.

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<v Speaker 1>When we say never again, that never again can't just

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<v Speaker 1>be about black people, That never again has to be

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<v Speaker 1>about all people. Nobody deserves to be treated like that nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I would ask us to dig deep, to

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<v Speaker 1>think about what we need to be able to lean

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<v Speaker 1>into these moments, to stretch ourselves to be there for

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<v Speaker 1>our neighbors. The one who helps us to check out

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<v Speaker 1>our groceries at the grocery store, the one who sits

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<v Speaker 1>next to us in our places of worship, the one

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<v Speaker 1>who teaches in our classrooms for our K through twelve students,

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<v Speaker 1>or the ones who might be the teacher's assistant at

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<v Speaker 1>our college was our favorite professor. I want us to

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<v Speaker 1>think about the elder who's taking care of his aging life.

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<v Speaker 1>I want us to think about the cancer patient that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have access to resources if we don't lean into

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<v Speaker 1>our humanity. Y'all, we got to do different. We know better.

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<v Speaker 1>We cannot turn a blind eye to this crisis. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care who you voted for. You know this is

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<v Speaker 1>not right. And for the church leaders who continue to

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<v Speaker 1>amplify this man and pray for this man and lift

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<v Speaker 1>him up, I'm noting not saying pray for his mental

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<v Speaker 1>health and his state of mind, like, please pray for

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<v Speaker 1>that right. Please pray that God visits him in his

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<v Speaker 1>sleep and does not let him rest until he does

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<v Speaker 1>right by humanity. That should be the prayer. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just would ask our church leaders to think about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible you read and the God you serve, and if

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<v Speaker 1>this is really it right when you think about for

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<v Speaker 1>those who are read letter Christians, you got the red

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<v Speaker 1>letter Bible, the King James version or the New King

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<v Speaker 1>James version, whatever you have, the red letters, because you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know for a fact what Jesus said in

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<v Speaker 1>the New Testament. I want you to find the places

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<v Speaker 1>where Jesus ever recommended it behavior like this, or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the prayer, the beatitudes, where the beattitudes

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<v Speaker 1>where he talks about how we should treat our neighbor,

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<v Speaker 1>how we should love our neighbor, how we should visit

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<v Speaker 1>the sick and feed the hungry. Right, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>God I know. And so this version of God I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recognize. If you're telling me that this is Christianity

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<v Speaker 1>embodied in the federal government, I don't know that Christiananity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the Christianity that I'm a part of. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the Christianity of overseers and plantation owners and enslavers. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the Christianity that I ascribe to. So with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to just show you what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>elect someone who is an aspiring dictator and how they

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<v Speaker 1>talk to someone who is an abusive dictator. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what happened just the other day when Donald Trump met

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<v Speaker 1>with the Al Salvador's president Naive Bikela, and they met

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<v Speaker 1>in the Oval office, and I want you to hear

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<v Speaker 1>what Donald Trump has to say about homegrowns. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to go a step further. I mean, I say I

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<v Speaker 1>said it to Pam. I don't know what the laws are.

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<v Speaker 1>We always have to obey the laws. But we also

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<v Speaker 1>have homegrown.

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<v Speaker 3>Criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies

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<v Speaker 3>on the back of the head with a baseball bat

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<v Speaker 3>when they're not looking.

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<v Speaker 1>That are absolute monsters.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to include them in the group of people

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<v Speaker 3>to get them out of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to include them in getting them out of

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<v Speaker 1>the country. There's another clip where Donald Trump is on

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<v Speaker 1>a hot mic. If we have time to pull it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think would be good. A hot mic talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Naive Bikela and he says that he needs to build

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<v Speaker 1>more prisons. He Trump tells Bukel he needs to build

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<v Speaker 1>more prisons in El Salvador because they have more people,

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<v Speaker 1>the home growns, who they want to deport. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you all that that troubles me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of you all at home have

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<v Speaker 1>people who are in your family or loved ones or

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<v Speaker 1>friends who are incarcerated, but I do. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about who he could be calling the home growns

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<v Speaker 1>with as broad and umbrella as that might be, as

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<v Speaker 1>big of a tent as that might be, our people

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<v Speaker 1>are in direct time's way. So while you turn a

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<v Speaker 1>blind eye to this because immigration isn't your problem, or

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking your jobs, or they're creating all this violent

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<v Speaker 1>upheaval in your community, where you really can't point to

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<v Speaker 1>that as a fact completely. I'm not saying there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>micro levels of examples of that, but as state governments

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<v Speaker 1>are impacted because they no longer have those tax pay

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to rely upon, or the federal government is impacted

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<v Speaker 1>because they no longer have those dollars to rely upon.

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<v Speaker 1>As your homes may not be cleaned anymore, your hotel

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<v Speaker 1>rooms may not be cleaned anymore. There's no one to

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<v Speaker 1>pick ripe fruit or vegetables, or there's no one to

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<v Speaker 1>help finish a construction project, or there's no one to

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<v Speaker 1>help finish computer code for the latest AI development. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to think about this moment. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to think about the times where you turned a blind

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<v Speaker 1>eye because your low was heavy, or because you don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>or because there's somebody you've got to be mad at.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the moment where we have to call up

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<v Speaker 1>on our humanity and do the right thing, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard. That is what is required of us. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking you all to lean into your heart space

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<v Speaker 1>and to learn about these people. Kill maar Abrego Garcia,

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<v Speaker 1>who the Trump administration is blatantly defying the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>order for to leave him in ol Salvador. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to think about most Senma Madawi, who was getting

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<v Speaker 1>his citizen citizenship, actively sitting there right in that moment

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<v Speaker 1>to get his citizenship. I want you to think about

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else who White America might be afraid of and

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<v Speaker 1>call them homegrowns, and decide that that's reason enough to

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<v Speaker 1>deport him, to port him or her. For these folks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to think about Trayvon Martin who was

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<v Speaker 1>shot and killed by a vigilante George Zimmerman because he

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<v Speaker 1>would have been deemed a homegrown or Alton Sterling, or

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<v Speaker 1>a George Floyd, or a Breonna Taylor, because they would

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<v Speaker 1>have been deemed inadequately, inappropriately and wrongfully as homegrowns. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the people who if they were alive to tell it,

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<v Speaker 1>or am nott Arbury if they were alive to tell it,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're relying relying on citizen tips, not fact checking

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<v Speaker 1>these things, not ensuring that they have the right person

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<v Speaker 1>before they deport them. If they look like a criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>if they look like an immigrant, if they have a

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<v Speaker 1>bad tattoo or some a tattoo they decide is bad,

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<v Speaker 1>then these are the people that have to go. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what you want to be associated with? Not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I want this country to turn a page. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to turn the page on history and stop being so

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<v Speaker 1>proud of and endorsing this country's racist, evil, treacherous past.

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<v Speaker 1>And by not embracing it, I'm not talking about erasing

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<v Speaker 1>history books or getting rid of museums or banning books.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about not repeating the same mistakes. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at this picture of these men in

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<v Speaker 1>an El Salvadoran prison, and when you look at this

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<v Speaker 1>picture of these people on a slave ship and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look any different, challenge yourself to say, this cat

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the United States and it can't happen anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Challenge yourself to say, even if I don't know this person.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they don't deserve this challenge us to do

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<v Speaker 1>and be better. That's what time we're on right now,

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