WEBVTT - Sticker Shock 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.520 Hey there, everybody freshesh off the Q train from downtown 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.360 Ropes and TJ coming to you from the iHeart Studios 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.720 in Midtown man Hattan. Wherever you are, glad you are 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.360 with us, and this is going to robes be the 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:22.239 final podcast episode that we're recording before your birthday. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.119 Oh that's right, you will. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.960 Be a new woman and the next time we work 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:27.880 in studio to get. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.840 Wow, I'll be officially in my fifties. Oh that sounds 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.800 different than saying I just turned fifty. I'll be in 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:34.479 my fifties. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:35.280 Is that different? 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:41.720 Yeah, I'm in the thick of it, like I'm emergency. Yes, yes, yes, no. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.640 This is birthday week, so it's exciting. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.120 What are you really what are you looking forward to? 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:46.559 Then? 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.800 For the new year, the new you know. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.960 Fifty one, I'm looking forward to looking forward to things. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.040 And that is actually true because last year was a 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.400 tough year. It's a big birthday, but it was a 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.160 tough year, and so I didn't feel like I even 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.360 had the bandwidth to hope and to dream and to 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.920 be excited and to look forward to. When you're stuck 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.399 in something and you're overwhelmed by circumstances, you don't necessarily 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.440 think that's one of the losses, is that you kind 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.240 of lose hope and excitement about what's coming. And I 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.240 feel that now, So yes, this is I'm excited about 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.560 turning fifty one and Birthday week is probably going to 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:24.680 turn into birthday month. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.720 Just letting you know I will be by your side 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.399 the entirety of it. But it's so cool. It's one 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:30.960 of the things I say about you all the time, 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.200 and I say it to you privately, but it is 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.720 one of the cutest things about you is that you 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.720 get giddy about the smallest thing. No matter how old 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.600 you get, you you have this kid like exuberance about 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.759 the smallest of things. And it's fun to watch. Everybody 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:46.399 should be like that. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:47.200 Ah well, thank you. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:48.520 Cool to watch appreciate that. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.360 Now we are turning. Now we're here in New York. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.520 But we got into it about a story out of Florida. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.400 And I say got into it because it's just I 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.200 guess it's polarizing and you're you're going to have an 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.480 opinion about This story has to do with a mom 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:05.720 down in Florida who's she hasn't been banned from her kids' 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.680 school necessarily please explain. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.560 Well, her vehicles have been so that might be the 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:11.440 best way to put it. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.440 Yes, Florida Mom and this we. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.680 Were kind of laughing because we've been re immersing ourselves 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.400 into headlines now getting back into the news cycle, and 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.040 this one really stood out and was a talker. Michelle 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:28.360 Klein's kids go to this private Christian school, Liberty Christian Prep, 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.000 I believe, And for a couple of years now she's 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.920 worked at the same place, had the same decal on 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.000 her car highlighting where she works, and it didn't seem 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.799 to be a problem until it became one. And it's 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.800 because of where Michelle Clein works. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.520 Well, she has like millions of people do actually and 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:54.480 OnlyFans dot Com page. She goes by Piper Fawn and 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.480 the decal on the back of her vehicles says just that. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.200 It doesn't have anything elicit like that, it doesn't have 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.960 any images of any kind. It just says OnlyFans dot 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.160 Com slash Piper font that is on the back of 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.320 her vehicle. She has been dropping her kids off at 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:15.600 this school and only recently now has the school told her, uh, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.480 do not come onto campus or in front of campus. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.200 We'll get specifics because Michelle Klein is standing by to 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.800 talk to us here. Don't bring the vehicle on campus 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.200 to where the other kids can see it. You need 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.280 to go across the street to drop your kids off. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.120 Which Michelle says causes some safety concerns for her with 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.239 her kids crossing the street. There isn't a crossing guard, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.680 There isn't a place where she feels comfortable. So there's 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.720 several issues at play here, but a lot of people 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.360 questioning why now it's not okay for her to bring 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.120 her vehicle on and what harm does it actually do? 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.520 Where does the school get to say, hey, this is 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.640 what we want, and you know, does majority rule here? 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.120 There's a lot of questions, a lot of people have 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.000 been mulling around, and so let's bring Michelle Kleine onto 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.040 the podcast now. Michelle, thank you for joining us from Florida. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:02.120 What of the past? 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.520 I was going to say a few days, what have 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.320 they been like for you? With now national international intention 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.920 focused on you and your vehicles decals. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.560 It's funny because I think the perception of how we 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.080 would be or what we are is different. We're just 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.560 normal people. We're just a family of five living doing 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.680 our thing and yeah. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.800 Okay, let's get some of the timeline right you how long, 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.520 First of all, have you had an OnlyFans page of 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:28.920 your own? 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.599 I've had the page for probably three years. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.960 Okay. Now, I know some of our folks that don't 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.800 know it is. It is a site that's geared towards 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:42.400 creators who want to use more explicit or sexually engaging content. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.040 But it doesn't mean that everybody on the page has 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.159 something illicit explicit on their particular pages. So you tell 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.520 us what types of things you do have on your 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:53.160 Only Fans. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:54.080 I mean, I'll be honest. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.520 Mine is definitely explicit, and I was, you know, I 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.360 told the news that as well. It definitely is. It's 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.279 I'm not on go and make cookies, so it's definitely 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.560 explicit material. However, I guess however it can be looked at. 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.680 I mean, I'm sure there's every point of view we 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.240 could always give on this, But for me, it's just 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.159 like it's just my husband and I. I don't have 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.800 anyone else joining us, never have, never will. That's not 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.960 saying we're not into like swinging or you know, sharing 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.279 and swapping. Like it's just the two of us and 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.039 before we got into the site. It was always something 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.280 we kind of did for fun, you know, just the 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.760 two of us. We'd send pictures back and forth, videos, whatever, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.080 you know. And then I had you know, people around 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:32.800 me that were talking about it a few years ago, 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.080 and we were at first we were like, I don't 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:35.760 know if we want. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:36.280 To get into that. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.240 So then it was we would you know, edit my 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.719 pictures and I would hide my face, cover my tattoos. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.039 And then that just became so much time in editing, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.800 and we kind of had this idea and this comedy's 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.320 meetings to speak ironically, and we were like, you know what, 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.039 let's just kind of make it to where we're you know, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.320 like it's either put our foot in and go all 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.920 the way or don't. And so we just did it. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.080 And then I got to Decal probably about a year 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.159 and two. We got the details on the cars, and yeah, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:06.560 drove for two years in the school. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.080 No one had an issue, and then all of a sudden. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.359 So then, at what point did you find out that 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.640 someone had an issue? How did you find out there 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:16.440 was a problem. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.920 It was approx. With me three weeks ago roughly, it 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.320 was pretty recent. A angry mom h sent me a 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:27.400 Facebook message, and at first she was just, you know, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.080 saying I saw this behind a car on Tuesday. It 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.680 was a couple of days prior, and she's like, I 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.200 just I don't think it's appropriate for you to put 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.560 this on there. And my responsor is, you know, basically, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.560 mind your business. I feel like she was saying, I 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.200 was livid. I saw it. I had a problem, I 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.920 I I. But she never once said my kids questioned it, 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.360 my kids want to know what it was. She never 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.040 once brought up the kids having an issue. It was 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.960 just her having an issue. And I feel like I'm 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.599 not saying kids will know what it is. But my 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.520 kids don't get in there and look in, you know, 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.200 at cars when I'm pulling up for drop off. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:58.000 We don't have time to do that. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.520 We drop off, we're there for five minutes, and we're like, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.160 they don't sit there and look at cars and what morning? 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:03.159 What's that? What does that mean? 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:03.359 You know? 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.880 We don't do that? And then pick up bline. The 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.560 kids aren't there. It's a mom's sitting in the car, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:08.960 so they don't see it until. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.040 I drive away. You know, I really feel like it's 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:12.760 started from that. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.480 Oh no, how long have your your kids have been 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.320 you said two years. You've been doing drop off pick 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.400 up this school for two years, right, without a problem. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.200 What are your kids? How old are your kids? 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:23.720 So? 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.680 I have three? My oldest is fourteen. She doesn't go 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.520 there anymore, she's home school. Does don't think she's actually 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.720 like ahead of herself. She's going to graduate in like 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.640 two years, like she's crazy ahead. Other two are eleven 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.680 and twelve, so they're elementary and then middle school. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.680 Okay, have they had any issues at school? Is anyone 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.280 picking on it? Have they complained at all? 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:43.520 To you? 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.400 My fifth grader had more talk in her class than 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.640 my eighth grader did, which to me, I think is 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.560 kind of crazy because that tells me that I feel 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.880 like that's parents complaining about it and the kids are 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.760 passing on. Because my fifth gradermar I can tell you 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.360 right now, she doesn't have a clue about what's going on, 0:07:58.480 --> 0:07:59.800 like than what I tell her. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.160 Like they don't talk about it. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.320 I feel like people around them bring more light to 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.600 it and discuss it way more than we do. They 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.680 just don't really care, you know, until it's brought up 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:09.960 to them or thrown their face. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.560 They don't care. And I've just instructed them, like if 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.280 get th rob at school, we don't talk about it. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:15.720 We just say we're not going to discuss it. We 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:16.480 just let it be. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.320 You know, everyone's going to have an opinion. We just 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.960 we don't discuss it. And so far it's been okay. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.040 Well, that's really good to hear, because I was going 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.640 to ask you, Michelle, how much do your kids know 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.200 what it is that you do for a living, Like 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.440 what do you tell them? And has that changed? 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:35.280 Thus all of this sounds funny, But the kids, we 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.720 just say a sexy time because they started calling it, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.600 so they know that it's sexy time between mommy and daddy, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.520 and they know that we like to film it. They 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.560 do think it's like, eh, gross, you know. Of course, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.640 because we're the parents. Of course they don't think it's 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.240 like funny or love it, you know. But at the 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.480 end of the day, like they know that, and I'm 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.959 honest with them about what it is, and that's all 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.960 we really say. And we do have a studio that 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.120 I do outside of the house, so I don't do 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.000 any filming. It's not like you walk in my bedroom 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.080 and the tripods and cameras and lights set up, you 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.400 know there's something like that. My house is very normal, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.400 we have a normal household, normal daily whatever. I know, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.400 when they go to school, I go to work for 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:10.319 a couple hours, and. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.520 That's how I spend my time. So I mean, so. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.839 Far they really, I mean I was. I had to 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.559 be honest with them and tell them because I look 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.839 at things where the delivery of things means a lot, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.199 and I feel like if they delivered this by a 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.520 classmate versus hearing it from me, you can come out 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.600 differently and they can have a different perspective on it. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:30.440 So I feel like if I kind of told them 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.280 ahead of time before it ever got brought up a 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.080 couple of years ago, you know, when I got the 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.360 decals in my car, that's when. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.680 I let the kids know. So but they handled okay 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:39.559 so far. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:44.040 So obviously you're not doing anything illegal. Obviously the site 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.440 is up and wildly popular. I've read that only fans 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:53.720 brought in five plus billion dollars in revenue from users 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.320 get twenty two the last time. Its twenty two when 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.880 they last reported. So this thing is popular. You can 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.680 make money doing it. A lot people do it, so 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.160 that's that's not the issue. So it is the issue, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.520 in your opinion, not really a disapproval of the decal, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.160 But all of these people are really expressing a disapproval 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.079 of you and what you do and how you're making money. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.480 I think it's funny that just now it's coming out, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.480 Like I understand, if I'll be honest, if I would 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.080 have had on for a month and I had this 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.800 kind of blow, I probably would have taken it off. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.160 I probably like, okay, clearly that the people are really offended. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.160 This is not going to be okay. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:26.960 I got to remove it. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.560 But I went a solid two years and two almost 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.000 two full school years and no one said a word 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.840 to me. I mean, and I've actually had meetings with 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.840 the principal about completely different things just grades or whatever. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.840 Behavior nothing else knew bad and every one since it's 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:44.560 brought up, not one time. And so that's why I 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.319 can tell the school didn't have the issue. Wasn't the 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.000 school of the problem. It was a parent to just 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.000 complain and got her viewers, you know, talking. And at 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.559 the end of the day, I don't care about being 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.920 on campus. It's not really a problem for me, to 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.600 be honest, to walk my kids across like I've heard 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.439 a lot of misconciption's like, oh, you're too lazy to 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:01.280 walk your kids across. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:02.080 That's not the point. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.280 The fact of the matter is that since August, there's 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.880 been three wrecks right there at this intersection where the 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.520 people pull out of school. The last one was right 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.040 before Christmas, like a gentleman with a seven year old in. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.720 The car got ta bone and it was a pretty 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.640 severe accident. So my thing. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:20.120 And there's multiple neighborhoods nearby the kids walk from. So honestly, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.280 it's not even just about my kids, because whether I'm 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.040 there or not, that's irrelevant. I just think there's other 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:25.599 kids that are here that we should at least in 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.600 place like a pedestrian crosswalk. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.120 Something along the lines right here. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.720 You know, they do it in downtown, and they do 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.800 it in bigger areas all the time. Why how hard 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.640 would it be to put the little flashing light where, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.040 you know, recognize that someone there, people stop and let 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:38.800 a kid cross. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.600 What has the school specifically told you, what do they 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.640 want from you? And what have the conversations been. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.160 Like so other than the first couple of emails that 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.400 I got just basically telling me not to come on campus. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.800 I haven't heard anything since the brokeround the press and 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.840 everything we haven't discussed. I've respectfully not even mentioned like 0:11:58.880 --> 0:11:59.760 the principal's name. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:01.680 I just I'm not out. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.680 To badger them or to complain to them. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.120 And honestly, I didn't ask for this fight, and I wasn't. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.520 I just feel like I've come three years into it. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:10.920 Why back down at this point? 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:11.080 You know? 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:12.720 If I backed down this point, that's like everything I've 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.120 ever done, all the hate I've ever put up with 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.160 this for for nothing. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.679 So why not? Like, I'm not going to stop now, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:18.080 you know what I mean. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.280 I've already had it out there, so now I'm not 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.840 gonna quit just because when Mom got mad and got offended. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.800 But there is other issues you know, that are I 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.840 think that are deeper for her. I think hers honestly 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.120 started out was she supposedly had been complaining about this 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.240 for a while, and I just got told three weeks ago, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.040 and that's where she was telling me, you know you've 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.040 been asked multiple times to take this down. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:38.880 Well no I haven't. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.840 I mean I have the one email that got sent 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.680 literally approxiing three weeks ago and just said we asked 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.000 that you don't bring your car on canvas anymore. And 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.200 then he The words they used were it was causing 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:50.520 disharmony in the school. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:56.280 So you you mentioned this, uh, this other parent, this mom? 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.320 Is this someone you had a relationship with prior to 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:00.000 all this happening. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.280 I had never met her and knew of her. It 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.560 was funny last year my son and her son actually 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.080 ran cross country together, and they were really good buddies. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.480 He's a year younger than my son, but they're really 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.240 good buddies and really good terms. And I'd always met 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.040 the dad, but the mom was never there, so I 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.080 had no idea this is even the mom. And even 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.160 when I lashed back at her, it wasn't really honestly, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.319 until we saw in the news and my son said, oh, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.760 that's so and So's mom, Like I know her, and 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.280 so that's kind of how I even realized that our 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.800 kids were friends last year. And what was funny is like, 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:32.960 when I'm going to track meets last year and all 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.600 these cross country meets, I had my car then with 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.200 the liggo on it, and her husband was freely speaking 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.640 with us and talking to us and friendly and kind 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.960 and never said a word. But then now this year, 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.120 she sees it and it's the world ends. 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.320 Well, Michelle, have you all talked? Have you actually talked 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.000 since all this has gone down? Okay, do you want 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.559 to talk to her? And do you think you should 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.360 right parents setting an example maybe through the kids that yay, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.880 we can work out our differences kind of things. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.679 I had a third lady from the school that I 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.880 actually have dealt with by volunteering and things of that sort, 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.720 and she actually reached out to me and she was like, Hey, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.520 I just want to know that I may not personally 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.439 agree with you, but I also don't agree with the 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.280 school either, and she kind of turned it into twists, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.840 was like, I think you two should come together, with 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.000 the amount of social media that you both have come 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.360 together and voice the issues about the school. And that's 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.000 honestly what I ever care about. I don't need the media. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.080 I wasn't looking for like a payout. I wasn't I'm 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.760 definitely not going to try to sue the school and 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.320 never contact a lawyer. That was never I don't care 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:32.960 what's up even if I could. That's not what I'm 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.040 trying to do. I don't, that's not I'm not trying 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.960 to set that presence for anyone. I just simply am 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.880 just fighting for my rights and just defending myself like anyone. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.760 Would you know, I want my kids to understand that 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.800 they can stand up for themselves. You know, when they 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.040 feel that they're doing something right and they're not hurting anyone, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.280 then I feel like they should defend themselves. I can 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.520 respect how people feel, but I also feel like people saying, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.800 you know, oh, you're soliciting sex to kids at a school. Well, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.640 I didn't purposely put the logo on to take you 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.480 to school and solicit It's just on there permanently, and 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.880 it goes everywhere I go. I don't necessarily try to 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.600 pick up people from Walmart either, but it's on my 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:07.720 car when I go there. 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.120 Would you consider did you consider at any point saying 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.480 all right, all cover it up when I pull into school? 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.440 Was that something you ever even thought you might do? 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.040 I mean, when I first had last year put it 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.240 on and I drove in, I honestly was prepared for 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.080 this kind of backlash back then. I was prepared for 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.080 right away be like whoa, people like why you're not? 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.960 What's what's going on? You know? And then I probably 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.560 would have just removed it because it would have been 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.880 a media issue. But now the fact that it's been 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.840 so long and now just one person just wants to 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.720 say something, and I just I guess I'm being defensive, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.240 and to be honest with you, it's really not that 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:52.800 much bish. If we go to walk my kids across 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.600 the street, I don't really mind doing that. That's not 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.040 the point, the more or less the point, it's just okay, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.680 if you're going to have me do that, well, then 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.480 while I'm doing it, you should look at the safety 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.440 for all the kids crossing the street. You know, consider 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.040 this for everyone. And it's like, if nothing else, if 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.800 all this hate that I'm getting, if it comes out 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.400 to where they do put some kind of safety there 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.040 for the kids across, then I feel like I've done 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:11.640 my job and I'll take the heat for that. You know, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.160 I don't care like ultimately that's what's saving the kids. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.240 Show what does a win look like in this situation? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.720 And it doesn't have to be a win, could just 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.280 be standing up for yourself and not backing down. But 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.480 I mean, what is a resolution between you and the school, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.360 or even you and the school and this particular parent. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.480 What's a resolution that you would feel good about. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.200 I honestly am okay with the school. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.320 You're most likely playing my kids out, and I have 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.400 considered just, you know, like doing homeschooling and then having 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.440 a private tutor a couple of days a week, just 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.960 to avoid the issues. I'm not here trying to surgrama. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.280 You know, Like there's an event that's happening this week 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.360 in my kids' school that one of my daughters just 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.200