1 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live, presented by Light of Health. 2 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: We welcome to a one Bill's Live Tuesday edition. Chris Brown, 3 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here with you as always, and we are 4 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: hunkering down. There are no warnings, there are no advisories, 5 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: but we're already preparing for what is being described as 6 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: a potential ice storm about thirty six hours from now. 7 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: It's about time to start talking Jay and letting us 8 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: do the show from home tomorrow. Well, I already laid 9 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: the ground, right, did you. We'll see. I'll pile on 10 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: later like I didn't know. But they're they're forecasting like 11 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: an inch of ice here in western New York. To 12 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: stay home, bro, And that is that is a prime 13 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: recipe for down, you know, for power lions going out. Yes, 14 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: And the wind is howling right now outside. It's like 15 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: blowing hard, and it's the fronts coming through, and it's yeah, 16 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: it's coming through. That's what's supposed to bring the rain. 17 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: The rain first and then yeah, overnight Wednesday night into Thursday, 18 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I guess is when all of this is supposed to 19 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: go down. We'll see if and when it happens, but uh, yeah, 20 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: so that's uh, that's what you have to look forward 21 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: to here in late February, we've kind of we've kind 22 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: of headed pretty easy to be frank. Yeah, absolutely, outside 23 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: of the two Outside of those two blizzards six feet 24 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: of snow and three feet of snow, the two generational storms, 25 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: We've already had an easy sailing over here. Yeah. So, 26 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: as far as NFL news goes, the franchise and transition 27 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: tags have been released by position. Today is the first 28 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: day you can make use of a franchise tag as 29 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: a club if you choose to do so, and the 30 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: general consensus Steve is Giants are probably going to use 31 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: it on Daniel Jones. They remain far apart on an 32 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: agreeable number for average annual value of a new contract. 33 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones wants like forty five million dollars a year. Steve, 34 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, the guy. If I told you, 35 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: if I asked you, how many touchdown passes do you 36 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones through last year? Do you know his 37 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: stats off the top of your head? How many touchdown 38 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: passes do you think he threw last season? Daniel Jones? 39 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Give you a range twenty two to twenty seven, okay, 40 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: and what do you feel would be worth production wise 41 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: in terms of passing touchdowns, would be worthy of forty 42 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year in the neighborhood of forty 43 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: forty touchdowns a season. Yeah, Daniel Jones through fifteen touchdown 44 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: passes last, come on, bro, how many run for seven? 45 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: So twenty Yeah, bottom end of the Yeah, forty five 46 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: million a year for a fifteen passing touchdown season. You're out. 47 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: You're out of your mind. Yeah, you're out of your mind. 48 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't blame Joe Shane for wanting to put the 49 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: franchise tag on him at thirty two million dollars. And 50 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you know what else he's changing agency, like, is his 51 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: agent's fault. You guys aren't trying hard enough for me, 52 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: trying hard enough for you? How about you throw a 53 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: few more touchdown passes than fifteen and seventeen games. Holy 54 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: mackerel man, come on was hes. He liked saying like 55 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm as good as Josh one kind of thing, or 56 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: because he you know, they used him a lot like 57 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: day Ball used Josh here. They turned him, They turned 58 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: him loose with the running game, they used that. His 59 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: athleticism to his man. Now he can't run like Josh, 60 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: But the offense did admittedly run through Sequon Barkley a 61 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: majority of the time, so I'll give him that. Sure, 62 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: But even in the highest rushing offenses in football, like 63 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: the Titans or the Colts. You know, when Philip Rivers 64 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: was there with Jonathan Taylor, they still threw him more 65 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: than fifteen touchdown passes. Right, come on, now, with that 66 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: forty five million a year off a fifteen touchdown past season, 67 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever heard anything more ludicrous. 68 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: How about this, though, What are we gonna do when 69 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: somebody gives it to him? Well, nobody is paying him 70 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: forty five million. Ye know, there's no way in hell 71 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: that that is happening. You say way, you say that, 72 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Like, so, here's the thing I 73 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: get it. Josh Allen gets paid. Now. Granted, this is 74 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: a contract that's two years. In the rearview mirror, forty 75 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: three million a year on average. Okay, this was signed 76 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, right before the season, or sorry, twenty 77 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: twenty one, right before the season. Josh Allen ran for 78 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: about seven hundred yards last year, and I think he 79 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: had six or seven rushing touchdowns. And he also threw 80 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: for almost forty five hundred yards and had something like 81 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: thirty something touchdown passes. I mean, the only thing that 82 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones comes close to Josh Allen and is rushing 83 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: yards and rushing touchdowns. You ain't got it on the 84 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: passing end, Bro, You're not getting forty five million a year. 85 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I'd really And maybe that's he is. He's changing agencies. 86 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: How do you walk in there's an agency, and I 87 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: know you got to go to bat for your guy 88 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: when you're sitting across the desk from the GM and 89 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: whoever else is in that meeting, and you're gonna listen. 90 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: We feel you've gotta because here's how these things work. 91 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: Your guy goes into your agent, goes in there, he says, 92 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: here's what we're thinking. Here's what he did, Here's what 93 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: he's here's what he did. Here's what he did. Here's 94 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: what he did, Here's what he did. Here's how he 95 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: used him. Here's what he did. Here's what nobody else 96 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: is doing. Here's our guy. Here's compared to this guy 97 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: over here, and compared to that guy over there, and 98 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: our guys better than those two guys. And they're making 99 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: this and we're doing, and that you justify a number 100 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: and you say, this is what we're worth because of this, this, 101 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: this and this, and you lay out a myriad of 102 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: reasons and the owner or the GM says, well, here's 103 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: the problem. You didn't do the ABC and D so 104 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: that here's what we think you're worth. And they're you know, 105 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: usually they're they lowball you. You high ball them, right, 106 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean that's the way it works, and you kind 107 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: of say, okay, you kind of get where they're at 108 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: and what they think of you. Really, I don't know 109 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: how anybody goes in and says forty five million a 110 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: year for my boy Daniel Jones and with a straight face, 111 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know how you justify that ask All 112 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: that all Joe Shane has to do is say, Daniel, 113 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: we love what you're doing, we'd like to continue to 114 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: help you progress in your career, and we'd like you 115 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to remain our starting quarterback, but we'd like it to 116 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: be at the franchise tag number of thirty two million 117 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: a year. You think you, oh, you think you should 118 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: be paid forty five million a year. And I will 119 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: just tell you this. Here are Josh Allen's numbers from 120 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: last season, while you stack up compara comparatively on the 121 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: rushing end of things. Even though Josh had more rushing yards, 122 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: you guys both had seven rushing touchdowns. Congrats on mirroring 123 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: his stats in that area. But in the passing game 124 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: you fall wolffully short. You have fifteen touchdown passes to 125 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's thirty five. You have barely three thousand passing 126 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: yards to Josh Allen's forty two hundred, and Josh Allen 127 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: played one less game than you. So I've seen Josh Allen, 128 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I've worked with Josh Allen, and you, my friend, are 129 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: no Josh Allen. So I am not paying forty five 130 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. You're no Josh Allen. You'll get 131 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: thirty two million, or you can try your hands somewhere else. Now, 132 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: if I mean, how can he justify? Let me play 133 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: this now, if you're if you're Daniel Jones, and you 134 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: know what it's been like in New York, and you 135 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: know that I don't know. I don't know what you 136 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: know if you're Daniel Jones in New York except for this. 137 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Maybe it's this brownie, And see what you think of this. 138 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: So Dana Jones is sitting there, You're going, you know what, 139 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: the only way to hit a home run financially is 140 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: to get to free agency. So I'm gonna try it. 141 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna put myself out of their market. 142 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to force them to franchise me. I'll play 143 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: on it. If I play well, I play well, I'm 144 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: still gonna make it. But I'm gonna bet on myself. 145 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the free agency somehow, some way, and 146 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do what it takes. And that means 147 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: not coming to terms with the Giants on a long 148 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: term deal. And I don't know that the Giants want 149 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: to do that anyway, right, Like, are you completely sold 150 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones is going to continue to progress and 151 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: maybe throw twenty touchdown passes? Is here? I mean, good lord, 152 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: what's he gonna do? Hey, I realize there's nowhere to go, 153 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: but makes if he makes one hundred percent improvement, he's okay. 154 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: That's an okay year, that's thirty yeah, third, that's what 155 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Josh threw four This year, he threw thirty five. Right, 156 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: it's not even if you double it, it's not even 157 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: to where the top guys are throwing it. It's by 158 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: the way, it's a throwing league, and say Quon may 159 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: Or may not be a Giant next year, right, I 160 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: mean what the general consensus in New York is that 161 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: Joe Shane wants both of those players back, and the 162 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: hope is they can come to some short term agreement 163 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: with Jones and then franchise Barkley because the running back 164 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: franchise tags only ten million. This reminds me of a 165 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: comparison Josh Allen running down hurtling guys like in Denver 166 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, when he runs like a twenty four 167 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: yard or in it snakes through the entire defense untouched 168 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. On the other hand, Daniel Jones breaks one, 169 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: snaps one off for eighty and stumbles on the fifteen 170 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: yard line and fall and just face plants. Yeah that's 171 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: the difference right there, Right, you got Josh Allen hurtling 172 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl linebackers and Daniel Jones tackling himself on a breakaway. Sorry, 173 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: five million dollars, Yeah, it's just no way. No, I'm 174 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: very curious where the number ends up, but I think 175 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: it's just I think Joe Shane is probably gonna franchise him, 176 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: keep him for next year. See what, see what improvements 177 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: he can make in year two with Dayble. That's then 178 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: to me, it's either fish or cut bait at that point, 179 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: that's to me, that's the move. Keep him for a year. 180 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: You get a highly motivated Daniel Jones. You get Daniel 181 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Jones that's in his second year in the system. You 182 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: get Brian day Ball with another year under and even 183 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: so you draft a guy I don't care. Yeah, I mean, 184 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: at best, he's the third best quarterback in the division. 185 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: And the only reason he's third is because Sam Howell 186 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: hasn't started a game yet for Washington magat Prescott and 187 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Hurst in that division. I told you that. I was like, 188 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: who's Sam Howe? What? Right? So he's he's third best, 189 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: maybe fourth? If Sam Howell pans outright? Who like is 190 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: that Thurston Howell's son? Thurston how the third No, but 191 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: he was a third round pick? Was he? Okay? Thurston 192 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: how the third round pick? Okay? So with Thurston comes 193 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: out in Island reference to Thurston how the third round 194 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: comes out and plays better, Daniel Jones is the fourth 195 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: best quarterback in that division. Yeah, that's why you can't pay. 196 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna pay the guy who isn't even one of 197 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: the top two guys in your division forty five million 198 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: a year. It's just it's insanity. I can't even believe 199 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: people were people like as soon as if you're if 200 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: you're a reporter and you're let's just say you're calling 201 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: up his agent and you're like, all right, yeah, what's 202 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: the neighborhood of what you're looking for? And he says 203 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: forty five million? I mean, I I'd laugh him off 204 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: the phone. I wouldn't even laugh. I'd just hang it 205 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: up and be quiet. I wouldn't even relate that to anybody. 206 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know that. If I'm 207 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I want my agency to even make that public. 208 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how anything could make less financial sense 209 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: on the free agent football landscape. Well, it's it's insanity. 210 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: The Deshaun Watson deal is pretty stupid. Well, yeah, that's true. 211 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean we I mean these and you know who's 212 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: thanking you know who's sarcastically thanking the Cleveland Browns, the 213 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens because supposedly Lamar Jackson wants his new contract 214 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. And the reason he has a leg to 215 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: stand on for that is because a guy with a 216 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: sordid off the field set of accusations and civil suits 217 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: that are longer than your arms, got a fully guaranteed 218 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: contract in the amount of two hundred and thirty million dollars. 219 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: And so because DeShawn Watson got a contract like that 220 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: from Cleveland, which is pure lunacy, right, Lamar Jackson says, well, 221 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: holy cat, they backed up the brings truck for that guy. 222 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: Last I checked, he hasn't been an MVP in this league, 223 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: but I have what are we doing? That's exactly right? 224 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Although I mean, and the Ravens they're well run organization there, 225 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really hard to throw darts of 226 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: what the Ravens do on and off the field. They're 227 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: doing it the right way there. They got some work 228 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: to do with this thing, though, I mean, it's maybe 229 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: a pretty stick absolutely, or they have zero work to do. 230 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: Let it play out. Franchise him, keep, franchise him and go. 231 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: The kirk Cousins are out of the commanders. Yeah, and 232 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: then I think it's careening towards a franchise tag for him. Sure, 233 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: of course, it is, it's gonna be a franchise tag 234 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to be and maybe it's maybe 235 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: it'll be unrest restricted franchise. Now that's a guy who 236 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: should get forty five million, probably more. You can think 237 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray's average annual value is forty six point one. 238 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: He's better than that guy. Well, that's another that's another 239 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: franchise is the other owners are going, what are you 240 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Yeah, you're driving up the market. 241 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Tell you you're you just preture. You just paid a 242 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: guy who hasn't done anything, doesn't want to playoff, hasn't 243 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: hasn't been to the playoffs. Now they got to the playoffs, 244 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: they didn't win. Hasn't want to playoff game. The highlight 245 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: of his career was a chuck and duck prayer that 246 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: was answered against the Buffalo Bills in twenty twenty. That's 247 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: the highlight of his career. And he was two years 248 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: ago and they're paying him all that money. I mean, 249 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: some of these franchises just lose it. Yeah, I don't 250 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: get it. And so you get these other guys that 251 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: are trying to do it the right way, and you know, 252 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: build a roster and do it three, you know, and 253 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: they're just you know, they're looking at these guys going 254 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: and Lamar's got a beef. Lamar's got a beef right 255 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: because he has he has been an MVP in the 256 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: National Football League, and his contracts up and he's what 257 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six. Goodness, gracious, he should be. He 258 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: should be you know, Barry Bonds and that thing out 259 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: center field. Man home run should be a home run. 260 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: But you know, the club's too smart to do it. 261 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: I would tag him if things are not going well 262 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: right now, I would tag him and then say, look, Lamar, 263 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: we feel you're worth more than thirty two million a 264 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: year to us. I'm sorry we haven't gotten anything done 265 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: on a long term basis, but we're tagging you now 266 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: to buy time in the hope that both sides can 267 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: come to an agreement on fair market value. We believe 268 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: it's north of thirty two million, much like we're sure 269 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: you do. But let's see if we can get to 270 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: the same place or some kind of common ground and 271 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: iron this out. This is one of the things too 272 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: where a lot of people outside and some people have 273 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: experienced this, but it's a weird business where you have 274 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: to negotiate your contract with some guys who you work 275 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: for and work with very closely, and it's a difficult 276 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: line to walk, but it really speaks to how honest 277 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: and open the communication and has to be, like, you know, 278 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: all these guys here in this building, they seem to 279 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: handle it the right way. You've got You've got a 280 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: lot of a handful of instances and examples of guys saying, 281 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: now this is where I wanted to be in. The 282 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: club gave me what they knew I was worth, or 283 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, a fair value. I could have hit a 284 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: home running free agent like Taryn Johnson, Matt Milano, all 285 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: these guys. You could have gone down the list and 286 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: they said no, I want to stay here, and the 287 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: club gave him a good contract, not a world beating contract, 288 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: but a life changer. And then you've got guys like 289 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson and Jordan Phillips who did sign big deals, 290 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: didn't go well, and now they're back because they see 291 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: the culture and the honesty and the fourth right. They 292 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: said listen, and then you could bet they're having this 293 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: conversation with Jordan Poyer say Broke, we love you, We 294 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: do that. But here's the value and we know you 295 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: can get more than this, probably on the free agent market. 296 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: If you want, we'll let you go. We'll let you go. 297 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: But this is where we're at, and that's where Baltimore 298 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: is with. I'm sure they're having the conversation with Lamar, say, Lamar, 299 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: we love, but this is not going to make sense 300 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: for us to do you a deal like Deshaun Watson. 301 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: Other franchise tag candidates around the league, in addition to 302 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Daniel Jones, and Saquon Barkley are Geno Smith, 303 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, Dallas running back Dalton Schultz, Orlando Brown Junior, 304 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: the tackle for the Chiefs, Jesse Bates, the safety for 305 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals who was franchise last year, defensive tackle for Washington, 306 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Dron Payne, and Raiders running back Josh Jacobs. Question for you, Steve, 307 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: because we've been talking about Daniel Jones potentially getting the 308 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: franchise tag as well as Lamar, how many quarterbacks in 309 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: the history of the franchise tag have played on the tag? 310 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: How many different quarterbacks do you think since the tag 311 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: came around have actually played out a season on the tag. 312 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: There's only one I can think of and it's Kirk Cousins. 313 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: He's done it twice. He did it two years in 314 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: a row and then left for Minnesota. There. How many 315 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: others do you think there are in the history of 316 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: the franchise, tach Man, give me a number, total number, 317 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: counting Cousins. I don't know. I think like Cousins one. 318 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: I think it's just one. The answers three? Is it three? 319 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Just three? Who are the other two? Dak Prescott, Oh, yeah, 320 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: that's right. And Drew Brees with the Chargers in two 321 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: thousand and five before he bolted and signed with New Orleans. 322 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Maybe you have to your name has to start with 323 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: a D. Daniel, Drew, and Dak. Oh, but Kurt did it? Okay? Yeah, 324 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: Kirk kind of nixes that theory. Steve, but but that's 325 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: it's rare. And Dak busted his leg in that season, right, Um, Yeah, 326 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: I think that's right. He was playing hurt. Think that 327 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: he got his tip fib Yeah, Kirk Cousins did it twice. 328 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: I remember that it was big because he made When 329 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: you make one hundred and twenty percent of what you 330 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: made the year before, when you've been tagged once, right, 331 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: he's he killed it and then killed it with a 332 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: free agent, hilled it in free agency, and that's these 333 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: like three years ninety five million dollars like six years ago. 334 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is playing it right. I mean you got 335 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: to you gotta get the free agency if you want, 336 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: if you want to hit a financial home run, and 337 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: if he is in any way, shape or form, not 338 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: a guy like Eli Manning, who is you know, once 339 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: a giant, always a giant. No, no, it's only a 340 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: giant unless you're that guy. Get the free agency. If 341 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: you're a QB, well it just stands to reason you're 342 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: better off with thirty two teams in the pool for 343 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: your services instead of just one. Yeah, so yeah, I 344 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: get it. But even if you go back and you 345 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: look at Kirk Cousins stats like the year he got 346 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: franchised in Washington, and my computer is spinning. I'm waiting 347 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: for it to come up here. He gets franchised his 348 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: second to last year in Washington, twenty eight years old, 349 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: after one season as a starter. Okay, in one season 350 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: as a starter in Washington, Okay, because I already told 351 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: you what Daniel Jones stats were. Fifteen touchdowns, seven picks, 352 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: seven rushing touchdowns for a total of twenty two. Kirk 353 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: Cousins in his age twenty seven season, the year before 354 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: he was franchised, he threw for forty one hundred and 355 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: sixty six yards, completed seventy percent of his passes, twenty 356 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: nine touchdowns, eleven picks. It's better, demonstrably better. Double the 357 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: touchdown total. I mean, and I don't know, I just 358 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: gonna make this statement. That's a Kirk Cousins season right there. 359 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: And he got franchised. He didn't get top of the 360 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: market money, he got top ten money. Like just the 361 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: fact that the Giants are willing to pay franchise tag 362 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: money at quarterback. Daniel Jones should be doing backflips for that. 363 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: I know. After that season, what's the number on a 364 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? Thirty two million? He's for fifteen touchdown passes. 365 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying it until people realize how ludicrous 366 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: it is to be asking for forty five a year. 367 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: He's going to be making more millions of dollars than 368 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: he's throwing touchdown passes. He's gonna be making like one 369 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: point four million per touchdown pass. It's insanity something like that, right, 370 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: absolute man, do you want to know how many touchdown 371 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: passes he through the year before that? Oh? No, ten, dude, 372 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: he got a chance to touchdown passes he through the 373 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: year before that. Eleven. In the last three years he 374 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: has one more touchdown pass asked then Josh had this 375 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: past season. Combined thirty six touchdown passes in three seasons. 376 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: Maybe free agency, you're gonna pay him thirty two million 377 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: to stay. Oh my god, I'm rolling the dice. Give 378 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: me anybody. Well, you're only doing it one year, and 379 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: I would tell him, I say, listen all that stuff 380 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: that you said, but hey, we like you, we're but 381 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: this is where we're gonna franchise and stuff. And I'll 382 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: tell you what right away, I'm starting to trade up 383 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: in the draft. I'm trying to get one of these guys. 384 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: You cannot live like that. You can't live like the Bill. 385 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: We did it, you and I through this, through the 386 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: two thousands, through the drought, we lived like that. You 387 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: try and paint these guys with a brush that will 388 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: brighten them up. It's probably like the long term contract 389 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: that you cling to. Have a long term contract that 390 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: fits got here and that's right, and you cling to 391 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: them because they're great guys. They're like, all right, at 392 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: least I can love the guy as a human being, 393 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: even if he's a mediocre to fair quarterback, right, And 394 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: that's that's the world you live in. You just kind 395 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: of make the best of it. He's a great guy. 396 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: We love him. He's funny, handles the media well. His 397 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: teammates love him. He's funny, right, Dan touched. At least 398 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: at least he's in, you know, at least he's entertaining 399 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: on them. And you got to listen to him through 400 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: the season and every post game. You know, he's fun 401 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: and every once in a while he does something cool, 402 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: and you live like that. That's how you live. That's 403 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: where the Giants are right now. They're living like that. 404 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 1: They're grasping onto any positive thing from that position they 405 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: can get right now, Dan and Joe took and let's 406 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: face it, Brownie, it's a big step forward. That was 407 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: a big step forward. Yeah, gett into the playoffs. I understand, 408 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: and I get it. Coaching does make a difference. We've 409 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: seen it. And maybe Brian Dable is there telling him, hey, 410 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: we got more to give. He's got more to give 411 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: us and Joe Shane's going, all right, we'll give him 412 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: another year. As good as Brian Davile is as a coach, 413 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: and I think we all know that, we think a 414 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of them around here. Daniel Jones still only through 415 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: fifteen touchdown pack. I cannot get past it. That's less 416 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: than a touchdown passing. How maybe Josh Strow's rookie year, 417 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: I mean it was his rookie year. Daniel Jones is 418 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: his fourth year man, but it was the first year dayball, 419 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Josh missed five games also, 420 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: so I mean, oh, in his rookie year in twenty eighteen, Yeah, 421 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: he missed five games. I mean it was Jones through 422 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: twenty four touchdowns his rookie year in the league. He's 423 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: thrown thirty six in the next three. That is insane. 424 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: Josh threw four ten touchdowns his rookie year. This is 425 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones fourth season though. Yeah, to me, that's not 426 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: a comparison. It's yeah, I'm just saying. And then wasn't 427 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: even there in eighteen, all right, Let's see what he 428 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: did in nineteen nine, all right? All right? And then 429 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: because that's you know, because coaching does make a difference, 430 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: and I know these day bows day. He had twenty 431 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Josh had twenty with only nine touchdowns. Okay, so yeah, 432 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: they were in the playoffs. I don't know if I could. 433 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: I could. It makes it different if I could write 434 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: the word no in larger capital letters Boulder boulder print 435 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: and bigger font on Daniel Jones just well, no, all right, 436 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: here's what I all right. Let me just tell you 437 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: about my I have a close friend, close personal friend, 438 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: who handled all my contracts with the Bills. I went 439 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: in and talked to Bill Polian. Yeah, and he and 440 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: Bill were very well acquainted. And my guy goes in 441 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: and we pumped up the nut. Is my first contract 442 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: after I went to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, and then 443 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: my my contract was up the same year, and so 444 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: my timing right, So I my guy goes in, he goes, 445 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: here's what we're thinking to get. Gives him the thing, 446 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: and Bill goes. He goes, okay, let me see. He 447 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: goes seriously, he's a big fat with a bar marker. 448 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: N Oh, hands it back. So that does happen, That's 449 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: exactly what he goes. He goes, he let me take there. 450 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let me look at it. He goes, No, 451 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: and handed it back. Listen, I was like out of 452 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster after fifty on a fifty 453 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: three man roster. Yeah, I was fifty four. I was, 454 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, so that and but that's true. You you 455 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: got to go in and everybody does it. You high 456 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: ball them with from your end and they low ball 457 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: you from theirs. But if you're it's not about the 458 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: number in that conversation, it's about what they think of 459 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: you and why. And that's where you start getting because 460 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: that the varnishes off in those negotiations. The club says, listen, 461 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: great love you, great guy, great locker room. You're a 462 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: great leader. But you can't throw the ball. You're not 463 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: throwing the ball well enough. We need more out of 464 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: the passing game. You're missing too many throws whatever. And 465 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: that's where it's not about the numbers when you start 466 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: these negotiations, it's about the conversation. If they if they 467 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: franchise him, what it says to me is they believe 468 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: there are problems that go far beyond Daniel Jones. And 469 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: yes they're receiving corps did have a good amount of injuries. 470 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any debating that. How much do 471 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: they feel that stripped away from his production? They were 472 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: a run first offense. How much do they feel that 473 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: stripped away from his production? But Steve, I mean even 474 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: in the seventies, I mean, even in the late seventies, 475 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: early eighties, guys through from more than fifteen touchdown passes 476 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: in a season. Yes, they did. I mean we're in 477 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: an era now, fifteen touchdown passes. I mean it's anemic. 478 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: And that's I think it's a little inex And I 479 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: get it. They didn't have you know, they didn't have 480 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: a j Brown or Steph Diggs or you know, Okay, 481 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase over there in New York. But nevertheless, and 482 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: I guess sae Quon Barkley gets you get some get 483 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: some runs down close where maybe other teams would have 484 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: thrown the red zone pass. But man oh man, you 485 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: get more opportunities when you're more successful, and they just 486 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: weren't successful enough to give Jones more opportunities down there. 487 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: We were somewhat singularly focused there, but that was around 488 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. Presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system 489 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, want to get the topic of 490 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: discussion to you today and that is the following, which 491 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: Bill's rookie will have the biggest jump from year one 492 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: to year two coming up here in twenty twenty three. 493 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: There are some interesting choices that you have at your disposal, 494 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: So you let us know at eight O three oh 495 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: five fifty the local number to call or toll free 496 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, which 497 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: Bill's rookie will have the biggest jump from year one 498 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: to year two this coming fall. Jump on the phones 499 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: and let us know. We've got an open line for 500 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: you there eighth three oh five fifty, or you hit 501 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live, 502 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: Steve and I take a break here, but your phone 503 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: calls coming your way next here on one Bills Live, 504 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: presented by Kalot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, 505 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 506 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: with you. And topic of discussion today is pretty straightforward. 507 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: Which Bill's rookie will have the biggest jump from year 508 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: one to year two this coming falls some interesting choices there. 509 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: You pick somebody you think is going to make dramatic 510 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: improvements in their game entering year two. Here in the 511 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: fall of twenty twenty three from a draft class that 512 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: saw a good number of them on the field and 513 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: contributing in some capacity. Eight oh three oh five fifty 514 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: the number to get on board one eighty eight five 515 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty or on the tweet sheet at 516 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Steve I wanted to pass this along 517 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: to you today on ESPN dot com. On their NFL page, 518 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: Matt Bowen, friend of the Show, put together a list 519 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: of top fifty free agents and their best team fit 520 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: as he sees it in free agency now. A number 521 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: of these players he has going back to the team 522 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 1: for which they played this past season. For example, like 523 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, he thinks his best fit is with the Raiders, 524 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: where he gets a high volume of work. Bills fans 525 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: are not going to be happy hearing this best fit 526 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: for Tremaine Edmunds the Detroit Lions. Matt Bowen says, Detroit 527 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: needs to add more difference makers on defense, and I 528 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: see Edmonds as a prime fit at the second level 529 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: of the Lions system. Okay, and I think a lot 530 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: of teams feel that way. About to scroll down to 531 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer. Okay, this one's going to be even more 532 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: difficult to stomach. Best team fit for Jordan Poyer according 533 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: to Matt Bowen, the New England Patriots. Poyer's multidimensional traits 534 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: fit with Bill belichick scheme as a movable defensive player 535 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: with deep field range. Veteran safety Devin mccordy is set 536 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: to hit free agency, so there is a need there now. 537 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I think everybody would throw up if that happened. The 538 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: last one for you, Odell Beckham Junior is on this list. 539 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Bills fans aren't gonna like this one either. Best team 540 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: fit according to Matt Bowen, The Jets the Dallas Cowboys. 541 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: He says, both the Chiefs and Bills are also potential 542 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: landing spots for Beckham, but we know that there is 543 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: interest from Dallas, which has a real need to add 544 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: a proven number two target opposite Cede Lamb, and we 545 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: don't um right, So that's kind of what he has 546 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: There some other interesting names, Juju Smith, Schuster. He says 547 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: his best fit is going back to Kansas City. Who 548 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't play with Patrick Mahomes if you're a receiver? Right? 549 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: Mike Gasicki was an interesting one. Best fit Carolina Panthers 550 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: why would that be, I wonder because I don't know. 551 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: In Frank Reich's offense, Gasicki would serve as a vertical 552 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: seam option who can stress opposing defenses as a three 553 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: level target who's going to throw them the ball. That 554 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: is the big If there is one guy who has 555 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: deemed a perfect fit for the Bills that I think 556 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: you might be interested in, this is a guy that 557 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: I had on my free agent list at the offensive 558 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: line position. Ravens guard Ben Powers best fit Buffalo Bills. 559 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: The Bills have to be better on the interior of 560 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and Powers can fill that role at 561 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: the left guard position. With Roger Saffold entering free agency, 562 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: Listen to that three hundred ten pounder plays his best 563 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: football in close quarters, and he registered a run block 564 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: win rate of seventy eight point eight percent, the second 565 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: best among guards. And while he can get stressed on 566 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: his edges and pass pro Powers finished the twenty two 567 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: season with a pass block win rate of ninety three 568 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: point two percent, which ranked tenth among all guards. He's 569 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: a grinder. Listen, you gotta be down inside there. I mean, yeah, 570 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: it's that's where the that's where the violence is so 571 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't hate that idea, No, not at all. 572 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: You got to bring in quality guys and um, certainly 573 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: you know he can run block after coming out of Baltimore, 574 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be something I would not have known 575 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: Ben Power's name U because just you know, wrong conference, 576 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: wrong division, wrong division, not wrong conference. And yeah, I 577 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: mean I liked it. They looked really good when they 578 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: brought saffold in and Kessonburry in last year, two starters 579 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: from the number one seed offense and all the foot 580 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: in in the AFC lit. Yeah, twenty twenty one, they 581 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: brought him in here. Certainly they were long in the tooth, 582 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: but they weren't far from playing really really good football 583 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: and U and then they helped the team the you know, 584 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: finished fourteen and four on the season, so it was 585 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: it was a good move and we were pretty excited 586 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: about it and carried through really well in the regular season. 587 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: But Powers is a name that I could get behind, 588 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: big brut kind of a road greater guy. Question will 589 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: obviously be costs, but yeah, young guy too. I think 590 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: he's only about twenty seven, so we'll have to see. 591 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: We want to go to the tweet sheet now to 592 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on which Bill's rookie you believe will 593 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: have the biggest jump in production and progress, development, etc. 594 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: From year one to year two. Tweet sheet is always 595 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment 596 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and we lead off 597 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: with Thomas, who says James Cook he will get the 598 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: majority of the snaps based on the roster as of now. 599 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: He's obviously citing the fact that Devin Singletary is a 600 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: free agent. In my opinion, he will play a bigger 601 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: role in the passing game. Bills need to utilize his 602 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: skill set as a receiver by spreading him out wide, 603 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: creating matchup problems for defenses. And I couldn't agree more. Yeah, 604 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: I'd love it if he if they'd use him a 605 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: little bit more like the Saints Hugh's Alvin Kamara kind 606 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: of thing. I don't know that Cook is as fast 607 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: as Kimara, but Kimara is really a wide receiver playing 608 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: in the backfield. To me, they handed to him obviously 609 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: as well, but he's got those that kind of skill 610 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: set and I think that's where most people in vision 611 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: Cook looking his best And I think we were a 612 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: lot of people were really impatient to see a lot 613 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: more of that this last year. But I gotta I 614 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: keep going back to this, and we talk about James 615 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: Cook and Kayer Elam and James Cook and Shaquille Khalil Shakier, 616 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: those two guys offensively, we were so impatient to see 617 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: those guys play. We want to see more from them, 618 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: see some good, better things. It was the club kept 619 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: winning games, and albeit they blew some people out early on, 620 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: and they kind of got closer as the season wore on, 621 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: and and all of that, the offense was clicking. As 622 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: much as we hate to say it, they scored more 623 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: points this year than they did last year. And Brian 624 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: Dables last year, it was hard for the Bills to 625 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: start saying, Okay, we're gonna make some changes here when 626 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: they're scoring twenty eight points a game. Yeah, that's hard 627 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: to do. They were number two in the league, so 628 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: they're not. They weren't really going to start wholesale changing 629 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: these rookies in there when guys who had proven it 630 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: were still doing it even with a new offensive coordinator 631 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: and were but you know, whenever any of the least 632 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: thing went wrong or if a win didn't feel like 633 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: a win, you know what I'm saying, if a win 634 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: didn't get style points that we wanted, Like, man, they 635 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: should be you know, Cooking Shakire should be on the field, 636 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: all right, right, right, Well ain't gonna happen when they're 637 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: winning games and scoring a lot of points. That's just it, right, 638 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: So we were all impatient for it last year. And 639 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: I knew when we put this question out, you're gonna 640 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: get a lot of this. James Cook and yeah Shaquille 641 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakier, all of these guys, these offensive those two 642 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: offensive guys were gonna get a lot of play. Let's 643 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: go to the phones at eight oh three oh five 644 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. The 645 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: number to get on board and baton leadoff today is 646 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: Frank and Ken Moore. But you got for his Frank 647 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live. H good afternoon. Yeah, so 648 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: let's enjoy the show. But I a little bit taken 649 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: by what you were saying about Fafthball and question Barry Um. 650 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: They came from the best running back in football, and 651 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: as far as with the Buffalo Bills, Sathball was adequate 652 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: at best, and question, Barry got beat worse than Brown 653 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: when he had to fill in for Brown. Brown's got 654 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: two center blocks for feet. And I just don't understand 655 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: how you guys are comparing those line that we have 656 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: a terrible offensive line. That it's proven. I mean, Josh 657 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: Allwood is running for his wife every game, and you 658 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: guys just don't want to admit that we have poor 659 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: draft picking and we need to do better in the 660 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: draft and get some stugs up there because I feel 661 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: bad for Josh Ellen. You know, the Buffalo Bill's identity 662 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: is Josh Ellen's improvisation and him, you know, doing whatever 663 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: he can do. Our line has got awful, and you 664 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: guys just don't want to admit it. But I'll tell 665 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: you this. I'll tell you this, Frank, I don't agree now. 666 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: They're not They're not the most dominant group of offensive line, 667 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: not at all. They are not what you'd want as 668 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: a dominant offensive line, no question, and they could have 669 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: played better. And yeah, you're right about some of that, 670 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: but they're not the thirty second best team offensive line 671 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: in the International Football League. They were middle of the 672 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: pack by any metric. They weren't top five. They weren't 673 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: top ten, but they weren't bottom five or bottom ten either, 674 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: so they weren't horrific. And they still scored twenty eight 675 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: points a game. And you can say what you want 676 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: about Josh running around. Some of that's Josh, and I 677 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: get it, but yes, you're right, we all want to 678 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to get a more offensive linement 679 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: in because a lot of these guys are gone anyway. 680 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: They were signing one year deals and their free agents 681 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: of last so they're gonna be rinsed through as an 682 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: offensive line roster anyway. But it's easy to throw them 683 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: down the garbage shoot now that you're out of the playoffs. 684 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: But they wanted a ton of games last year. You 685 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: don't want to say that, but you just want to 686 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: look at our draft as a whole. The last five years, 687 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: it's been god awful. And I mean, when you look 688 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: at that, that's that's for Brandon being in the scouting staff. 689 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: It's other than bold wealth in my opinion. Well, look 690 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: around the league and look at other teams and what 691 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: their rookie classes and their draft classes are, and you'll 692 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: find the Bills are about like everybody else's as much 693 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: as we hate to admit it. It's an absolute crapshoot 694 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: when you draft these guys. So the Bills, yeah, you'd 695 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: love to see them hit on more guys. The team 696 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: that you look at this last year that really did 697 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: hit a home run, Unfortunately it was the New York Jets. 698 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks had a good draft, and the saddle there's two. 699 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: Everybody else is like, I mean, we're gonna have Eric 700 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: Edholm on today, and the Jets got an A plus 701 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 1: in the rook country. We're gonna talk to him about 702 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: arts when you have two top ten picks in the 703 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: first round, right, I mean, come on, right, But here's 704 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: the thing. We're gonna have Eric Edenholm on and he did. 705 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: He graded rookie contributions to every division. The Jets got 706 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: an A minus or something like that. The Bills, the Jets, 707 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins all got cs or C minuses or 708 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: c pluses. It's just the way it is. And whatever 709 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: you say about the draft, you're right, there's only one word. 710 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: You can always say, you got a draft better. Everybody 711 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: says it, every team says it. You try and do better. 712 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: But the problem is you get these guys in here 713 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they're just not as good 714 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: as you thought they were, or they're a different kind 715 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: of person than you thought they were. They don't work 716 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: hard enough to be good. It's you know, or maybe 717 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: they're on the decline and they you know, you weren't 718 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: anticipating that based on last year's play, but something changes 719 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: and they don't play as effectively. And Roger Staffold probably 720 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: falls into that. For free agents, that's true, But for 721 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 1: the draft, there's just too many things you don't know. Yeah, 722 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: but but I guess I think the line is an 723 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: absolutely in need of upgrade. It's just for the record, 724 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: I didn't say it was fine. Um, you know, I 725 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: think that Spencer Brown needs some competition to push him 726 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Deon Dawkins. He's a capable left tackle. 727 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: Mitch Morris was your most consistent offensive lineman from the 728 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: start to the end of the season. Good Ryan Bates 729 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: is fine at guard. But I think this line could 730 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: use a little bit of a shakeup in terms of 731 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: additional competition, whether it's draft or free agency, in an 732 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: effort to make it even better, because there were still 733 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: a handful of games where they just flat out lost 734 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: the battle at the line of scrimmage, and coach mcdera 735 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: would say it after every game we didn't win the 736 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: battle at the line of scrimmage, I'll say that. And 737 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: before we go to break here, I'll say this too. 738 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: Don't forget. This is exactly the spot they were in 739 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: a year ago. And they made some some big moves 740 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: in free agency with bringing these guys in, and we 741 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: were released Felician, the released Darryl Williams. They lost guys 742 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: to free agency, their contracts were up, and they had 743 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: to rinse through the roster um. And I am confident 744 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: that they're gonna take another swing at it, kicking the 745 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: can and try and do better this year. Um, but 746 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna be. You're gonna have two or three, 747 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: maybe maybe four brand new off probably not four, but 748 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: at least two or three. Yeah. The two of the 749 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: people that are going out the door, that's right, Van Roting, 750 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, uh, Kesson Berry question and sapphol that's three 751 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: right there. Bates Bates is under contry, but all those 752 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: guys the free right, and then that's four right there, right. 753 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have just from a number, a lot 754 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: of new names on this offensive line just just because 755 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: you have to, because all these guys are gonna be gone. 756 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: So the Bills fans are gonna get what they want. 757 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna get a revamped, revamped offensive line. But I remember, 758 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: mind you, this is where they were last year too. 759 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: They had a ton of guys that they got had 760 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: to replace an or upgrade too, and that they try 761 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: and do that every single signing they get. They want 762 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: to sign guys that are better. I think what Bills 763 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: fans want is a more earnest investment long term, and 764 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: that usually means draft picks sooner rather than later instead 765 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: of these one year rollovers, because it compromises the continuity 766 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: of your offensive line as well. We gotta take a 767 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: break here, but more phone calls when we return. Chuck 768 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: and Hamburg will lead us off in the next segment. 769 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: Here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalat of Health, 770 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to One 771 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you want to 772 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: get right back to the phones where we're asking you 773 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: which Bills rookie do you believe we'll have the biggest 774 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: jump from year one to year two this fall? Leading 775 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: us off this segment is Chuck in Hamburg, what do 776 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: you got first? Chuck? Hey, guys, how we're doing for 777 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: having me on? I just think from a sheer numbers perspective, 778 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: I think the guy that I'm watching is for Al 779 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: Bernard just because of how little his contributions were this 780 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: past year. And he's talking about a guy who had 781 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: eleven total tackles and it was a third round pick. 782 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: So I just I have to believe that, you know, 783 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: knowing the decision makers that we have and putting faith 784 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 1: in them, that they have a plan for this guy. 785 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's to go to more of 786 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: like a base four three and he becomes, you know, 787 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: like your will or you know, and take snaps away 788 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: from Taron Johnson. Maybe they have no plans at all 789 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: on even trying to resign Tremaine. I'd beens and he's 790 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: going to be the fill in. But I just I 791 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: have to believe that in some way, shape or form, 792 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: this guy is going to see an increase in productivity 793 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 1: just based off of where he was drafted, and believing 794 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: that they had to have a plan and please hope 795 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: to God that they were not draft being a special 796 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: teamer in the third round last year. That's a good call. 797 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: That's a good call, Chuck. You hate to say. I mean, certainly, 798 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: the guy's got athleticism and all that, but a third 799 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: round pick for a guy who can't get on the field, 800 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: that stings a little bit. Um Well, there are two 801 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty good players in front of him, that's true. You 802 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: got you got a two Pro bowlers ahead of it. 803 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: There's only two linebackers to play, and it's not like 804 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: you play three, right, and that that does change things 805 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. Bernard got some snaps last year. He's 806 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: a completely We've talked about it a lot. Bernard is 807 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: a completely different player than Tremaine Edmonds and they play 808 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: the same exact position. Bernard is totally instinctive, runs around, 809 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: and he's small by NFL linebacker standards, you know. Tremaine's 810 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: just the opposite of that. He's his huge, long condor 811 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 1: like thing, guy who is a little bit more wrote 812 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 1: in what he does kind of. He's not instinctive. He's 813 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: by the book and technique oriented. So they're two completely 814 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: different types of player that play the exact same spot, 815 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: and one of them completely gifted with traits and the 816 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: other guys is an instinctive guy who can just sees 817 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: it and runs to it and gets it. That's why 818 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: they drafted him. I'm with you one hundred percent. Chuck 819 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: the third round draft pick just to play special teams. 820 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: Mantle Man and Brandon Beam won't like that either, so 821 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: it's a good call. He might be a guy who 822 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: gets some stuff, particularly depending on the in the future 823 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: of Tremaine Edmonds and how that works out. I know 824 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: that at the end of the season, at least I've 825 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: heard this that Bernard was told he has to get 826 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: bigger and stronger for next season. And we've seen this 827 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: from young players. They're not strong enough to hold up 828 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: at this level. They get into an NFL offseason conditioning 829 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: program and they come back bigger and stronger. I remember 830 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: when Fred Jackson did that coming out of NFL Europe. 831 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: He wasn't strong to hold up to the rigors of 832 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: a six team game schedule. He came back something it 833 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: looked like he bought himself a new set of shoulders. 834 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: Um Derrel Bernard's gonna probably have to add eight to 835 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: ten pounds a lean muscle mass to hold up a 836 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: little bit better, and I think that would give him 837 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: a bigger chance at competing for his starting linebacker job 838 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: if in fact, Tremaine Edmonds is not here one of them. 839 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's his offseason to do list. It sounds simple, 840 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: and that's why they measure and way these guys the game. 841 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: The thing that makes football dere I say it all 842 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: the time. The thing that makes football different is the 843 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: physical toll it takes on guys every week and even 844 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: in practice. Yeah, and they just gotta be durable enough 845 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 1: to hang in there for four months, five months of 846 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: heavy physical contact. Guys who are lighter and whispier build 847 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: had tend to break down Guys that are big and 848 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: heavy and sturdy don't. It's just that simple. Yeah, certainly 849 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: they're exit options. But it's like Bill Parson, what Bill 850 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: Parcel said, if you keep drafting exceptions, all your team 851 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: is gonna do is you're just gonna have a bunch 852 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: of exceptions on your team. Yeah, and that's that's not 853 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: where you want to be. We are up against it. 854 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: Have to take a break here, but when we come back, 855 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 1: we're going to begin our number two with NFL dot 856 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: COM's lead draft writer Eric D Holme, who will be 857 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: joining us. He recently put out his draft grades for 858 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two draft class by teams. Where did 859 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: the Bills fair in that grading system? Will find out 860 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: next Eric D Holme coming up an hour number two 861 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's 862 00:49:38,760 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. These one Bills Live presented by Light 863 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: to Health. All right, welcome to our number two here 864 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and 865 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: please to be joined now by NFL dot COM's lead 866 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: draft writer Eric Dholm, who recently put out his draft 867 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: grades for the twenty twenty two draft class by team. Eric, 868 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: how are we doing this afternoon? Oh? Okay, we're having 869 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: trouble getting in touch with him. Okay, all right, we're 870 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: having trouble here and Eric, So we'll have our guys 871 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: work on the technical side of things. But Eric, good 872 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: to see us. Sorry, we can't hear you. We'll have 873 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: the guys in the control room work on stuff and 874 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: get right back to you as soon as we can. Here. 875 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: Apologize for that that appears to be on our end, 876 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: so our apologies. So we'll catch up with Eric as 877 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: soon as we get that straightened out. In the meantime, 878 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: we will go back to the phones where we have 879 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: been asking you today which Bills rookie will have the 880 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: biggest jump from year one two year two. Next up 881 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: on the phones at eight oh three, oh five fifty 882 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: where we have an open line for you is Mark 883 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: in Jersey City. We got for us Mark here on 884 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 1: one Bills Live. How are you doing? Guys? The Bills 885 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: fan based needs to get out of their Bills box 886 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: and look around the week. The Houston Texans has the 887 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: highest paid offensive line group in football, and you're gonna 888 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: tell me they were a great offensive line. Like you 889 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: saw Quentin Nelson getting manhandled last year. They took such 890 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: a precipitous step back and he's the highest page to 891 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: think Garden football by it. They don't throw a lot 892 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: of resources at the line because they know Josh's mobile. 893 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: They try to fill guys in. You've got to find somewhere. 894 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 1: Maybe they switched from the defensive line to the offensive 895 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: line put more resources there, But for a thirteen and 896 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: three team I have. I'm a staunch Bills fan. I 897 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: have never seen the fan base more irate and beside 898 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: themselves in my life. Yeah, I think I think it's 899 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: a byproduct of the expectations, though, Mark, I mean, everybody 900 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: under the sun outside of Buffalo had the Bills as 901 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl favorite, and I think the fan base 902 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: here took that and ran with it and expected that. 903 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: And then when it didn't come to fruition, you know, 904 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: we saw the repercussions that came out of it. And 905 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: there's also when you get to a point in the 906 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: season like the Bills were, with all the expectations and 907 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: how well they did play and all the games they won, 908 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: and when you don't, you know, achieve the ultimate prize, 909 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: you start saying, okay, where do we have to get back? 910 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: And you start and it seems like sometimes you're you're 911 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: nitpicking a little bit of an offensive line that you know, 912 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: that helped him score more points than all but thirty 913 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: teams in the league, over better than thirty point teams 914 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: in the league, and score more points than they did 915 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: in the year before when they were really smoking hot. 916 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,720 Speaker 1: You know, did a lot of good things. You start 917 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: looking for ways to improve and and you know, particularly 918 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 1: in the offensive line this year, with all those contracts, 919 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: in the situation that line is as a group, that's 920 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: where it's going to be you're gonna have a bunch 921 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: of new names up front in front of Josh Allen. 922 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: Whether you like, whether they played, whether they were dominant 923 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: this year or not, You're still gonna have new names 924 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: because the contracts are up. So it's just the nature 925 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: of the beast, particularly in this day and age, you know, 926 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,240 Speaker 1: social media and people can exaggerate to make a point 927 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: and leave an opinion anywhere they want. Right. Um, it 928 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 1: does seem like people are off their rock or about 929 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: how poor the Bills played in this area or that 930 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 1: area or whatever area, when you know, when you look 931 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: around the league, you're right, they didn't play that bad 932 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: in any area. Yeah, what about what about a rookie 933 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: that's going to make a jump mark? You have any 934 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: names for us? Oh? Yeah, I just I just want 935 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: to say that's today, but tomorrow it's you know, brain 936 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: of being stability, it's Leslie so or can't coach defense. 937 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: It's just one issue out together. I think those fans 938 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: need to relax. Shakier and Elam. Shakier just caught ten 939 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: passes during the regular season, caught five in the two 940 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: postseason games. He just there's a smoothness and a relaxation 941 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: to his game. He seems to just know where to 942 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: sit down and where to carry his I can just 943 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: see him just going off. And then Elam Elam found something. 944 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. I think when Tyree 945 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 1: Hill tried to hit him with that double move and 946 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: he was right there on his hip and Hill you 947 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: can almost see Hill like like, yo, this guy's still 948 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: with me. I think he almost got an interception on 949 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: that play if I recall, and then his interception earlier 950 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: and the game changed the game, right yeah, deep in 951 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: Miami territories the Bills, and they scored I think it 952 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: was a Davis touchdown a couple of plays after that. 953 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: So I think those two guys and if you have 954 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: two number one corners, one A, one B and then 955 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: a receiver that you don't need to go out and 956 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 1: spend money. And I'll tell Bills fans this for a 957 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: you know how, like they say chickstick the long ball, 958 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: wider see addictive deep ball, there's gonna be a wide 959 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: receiver or two that says I want to go play 960 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. Why because that guy's going to take 961 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: shots and can beat chances. And that's how I get paid. 962 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: Bill spans need to remember that for a positive. Yeah, well, 963 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of positives to go back and look 964 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: at once you get past the pain and how the 965 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: season ended. And thanks for the call, Mark, You're right, 966 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: and that's us something we all got to remember. I 967 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: like your thoughts about Shakir. I like your thoughts about Shakir. 968 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: He does seem to be a guy who was in 969 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time, caught the ball 970 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: when they threw it to him, got a little something 971 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 1: something after the catch. A lot of times, even if 972 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: he's not going to outrun the entire team to get 973 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: to the end zone, he is going to get every 974 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: yard that he earns, and he's he's got good vision 975 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. So I think I 976 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: like the call about Khalil Shakir and what he did 977 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the season is particularly in the playoffs. Yeah, 978 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was surprised it took this long to 979 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: get to heal him because I thought he really kind 980 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: of turned a quarter at the end of the season 981 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 1: as well, playing much more confidently, and watching him against 982 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in that wildcard playoff game, in a game 983 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: that was a very sloppy performance by a Bills team 984 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: whose mental state was probably elsewhere. So soon after the 985 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin situation, Ellen played maybe his best game of 986 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: the season, and I think he turned a corner and 987 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: I expect him to hit the ground running come next season. 988 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 1: But speaking of rookies, we finally have made a connection 989 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: with the guy we intended to speak with all along 990 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: about this subject. It is Eric Headholme, NFL dot COM's 991 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: lead draft writer, who recently put together a story on 992 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: his draft grades for the twenty twenty two draft class. Sorry, 993 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: we had a hiccup there, Eric, but glad to have 994 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: you now. How are you doing. I'm doing well, no 995 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: problems at all. Happy to be here. Give us a 996 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 1: little lowdown on what you've You've looked at the AFC 997 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: East and the rookies and the contributions. We're talking about 998 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: which rookie for the Buffalo Bills might step up and 999 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: have a bigger, the biggest jump forward in their second 1000 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: year with the you know, the players that we're looking 1001 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 1: at as Bills rookies, And we just had a caller 1002 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: that thought it might be Khalil Shakir. You gave the Bills, 1003 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: like I don't know, was a C plus for the 1004 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: contribution that their rookies made. And I said it earlier 1005 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: in the show, Bills fans were a little impatient to 1006 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: see those guys, even though the Bills were winning games 1007 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: without a big contribution from them. Yeah, I agree. I 1008 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: mean Kyrie Illam's the delay of his inclusion into the 1009 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: lineup on a full time basis probably held back the 1010 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: grade a little. You know, this grade, you know, while 1011 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: it reflects some potential, I was really going off what 1012 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 1: we saw in year one. It's kind of an unfair process, right, 1013 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,439 Speaker 1: We know how often players could take a huge jump 1014 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: year one of the year two. James Cook would apply 1015 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: to that. I would think, you know, I want to 1016 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: see more of Terrell Bernard, you know, shakier. Obviously they 1017 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: gave him a few more opportunities at the end of 1018 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: the season as well. So yeah, I mean the first 1019 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: four you could, you could argue, are all reasonable candidates 1020 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: because of the need of the position, the importance of 1021 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: the position at cornerback, you know, and just the weapons 1022 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: in the AFC, I mean, certainly the quarterbacks, but also 1023 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. I would think Elam would be the candidate, 1024 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: you hope. You know, obviously shows more of what we 1025 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: saw at the end of the year going forward, I 1026 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: think if it was the biggest one of the bigger 1027 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: differences between the Bills and you know they're AFC nemesis, 1028 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: which is the Chiefs. The Chiefs did not hesitate to 1029 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: put rookies on the field this past season, and the 1030 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: Bills were kind of steady as we go here and 1031 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: reluctant to put their rookies on the field and give 1032 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 1: them large roles to play unless it was completely out 1033 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: of necessity, which was the case at the beginning of 1034 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: the year at the cornerback position. But Dan Jackson getting 1035 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: nicked up early, Tradavious White not ready to come back 1036 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: from the ACL and you had the Benford slash Elam 1037 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: rotation at corner. But James Cook umbles his first carry 1038 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: as a pro, and I thought that stunted the number 1039 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: of opportunities he was given through the first half of 1040 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: the season. Forget about the next game and the game 1041 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: after that. It really stunted the opportunities that he was handed. Meanwhile, 1042 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: you look at Kansas City, they can't get guys on 1043 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: the field fast enough. I understand sky Moore had to 1044 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: kind of wait his turn with some veteran free agent 1045 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: editions in front of him on the pecking order. But 1046 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: the guys on the back end defensively, they're in the 1047 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: lineup week one. Jalen Watson, josh Williams. You know, guys 1048 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: like this, they played and played a lot. Yeah there there. 1049 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: It was interesting to note, how I guess if you 1050 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: put those two teams together, Obviously a lot of people 1051 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: came into the season thinking those were the two you know, 1052 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: heavyweights in the AFC, if you will, and so it's 1053 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: it is interesting to contrast their styles. I mean, Karlaftis 1054 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: I think started every game or place to it. Trent 1055 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: McDuffie when he was health the same thing. But those 1056 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: are first round picks. As you pointed out, it's really 1057 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: the later guys Isaiah Checho eventually getting a chance, but 1058 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,919 Speaker 1: really the secondary guys being thrust in there pretty early, 1059 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: and thank thank goodness for them. I mean, I think 1060 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: they have to look at it like, hey, we got 1061 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: a guy from Fayetteville State Joshua Williams, and experience that 1062 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: that prove valuable come playoff time and comes Super Bowl time. 1063 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: And Jalen Watson, as you mentioned to Leo Chanal, their 1064 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: their linebacker Chanel. I should say it was also a 1065 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: big part of what they did down the stretch, so 1066 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: it could pay off. You know, it depends, you know, 1067 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: how many veterans are you willing to sit, how many 1068 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: you know people are you willing to share time with. 1069 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: I guess that's that's going to be a coaching decision 1070 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: and a roster construction issue that comes up. Do the 1071 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Bills get credit for Christian Benford starting on day one 1072 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: or do they get or does Kayer Elam get the blame? 1073 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly Benford outperformed a seventh round or a 1074 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: sixth round graft grade. Yeah, I mean do they get 1075 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: credit or blamed for that? Well, I see how you're 1076 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: phrasing the question. I guess it's fair to say that 1077 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: there could be a little bit of both there. But 1078 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, anytime you play, find a player from the 1079 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: FCS level who you know, even if it's out of 1080 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: bare necessity to be able to start week one and 1081 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: hold up well and potentially project to safety. I mean, 1082 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: that's at least been I think discussed, So you know, 1083 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: right there, that tells me pretty precocious kid from a 1084 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 1: little bit lower level of football, albeit one that's produced 1085 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: a decent amount of NFL talent, So you know, when 1086 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 1: you look at it from that perspective, you know, obviously 1087 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: look at Devin mccordy, who started at corner as a 1088 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 1: rookie for the Patriots and eventually moved to safety. I'm 1089 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: not saying that's necessarily going to happen here, but you know, 1090 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: you can't think of a ton of examples of guys 1091 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: who are able to do that, start games as a 1092 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: rookie at corner and then eventually be transitioned to safety 1093 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: and be successful there too. If that happens, that is 1094 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 1: an absolute home run pick, but hard not to be 1095 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,439 Speaker 1: encouraged with the small returns through year one, right And 1096 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm not knocking your great Eric when I say this, 1097 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: but you look at this class. You look at this class, 1098 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: and in year two, things could change very dramatically depending 1099 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: on what they do with their veteran free agents, because 1100 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: the safety position is a gaping hole right now, not 1101 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: just because of Jordan Poyer, but because Jaquan Johnson is 1102 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: a free agent as well. Cam Lewis is a restrictive 1103 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: free agent, and we don't know what the future for 1104 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin holds. Coming off of his cardiac situation, So 1105 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,919 Speaker 1: Benford could be competing for a starting role. For all 1106 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: we know, that's just one position. If Edmonds is in back, 1107 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Bernard figures to be competing for a starting role. And 1108 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: then Elam I think we're all anticipating, is starting it 1109 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: outside corner opposite Tredevious. And then with Devin Singletary a 1110 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: free agent, we could be looking at James Cook as 1111 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: top of the running back depth chart as well. So 1112 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: from year one to year two, this draft class in 1113 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: terms of contributions could look dramatically different. You have three, 1114 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: maybe four starters, no question about it. And I've always 1115 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: said I feel like the best drafting teams and the 1116 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: most savvy and patient and smart and you know, have 1117 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 1: the longest vision the front offices to do that, and 1118 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I think the Bills have to be in that group. 1119 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Is not just looking at your immediate needs on April 1120 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: twenty seventh or whatever, right, It's saying, who are two 1121 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: twenty four free agents? Who are you know, who are 1122 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 1: potential salary cap victims next year because of a high 1123 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: number or age increasing rapidly or you know, declining production. 1124 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: You have to have that long term vision when you draft. 1125 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes people will say, why did you project, 1126 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, a pass rusher, they have two of the 1127 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: best in the league. Well, they're both free agents next 1128 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: year or whatever, you know, and so I think you 1129 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: have to think like that. And there's no question I'll 1130 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: be fascinating to see what, if anything, the Bills do 1131 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: in fregency. I realized that there there are more higher 1132 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: priorities with Josh and things like that, and you know, 1133 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: trying to keep some of the free agents you mentioned. 1134 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: But you know, if they add even lower price guys, 1135 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: more a ton of bodies at linebacker, offensive guard, running back, 1136 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: well then we might slow that a little. If we don't, 1137 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,919 Speaker 1: then we all of a sudden say, hey, why why 1138 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: can't Khalil Shakier step up? Why can't Terrell Bernard do 1139 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: what he did at Baylor? And you know, Cook can't 1140 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: be the lead guy like an Aaron Jones in Green 1141 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Bay or something, and then elim obviously at corner. I 1142 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 1: think he figures it no matter what. But uh yeah, 1143 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,919 Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely and that's what makes this exercise tough. 1144 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: And that's why I think about twenty nine to the 1145 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 1: thirty two fan bases, we're upset with micraines. Can't everybody happier? 1146 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: So so as we talk about the free agents and 1147 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 1: all the guys that have played well or may take 1148 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: a step forward for the Bills. You spent some time 1149 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Give us an idea maybe some 1150 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: day one standouts that guys that maybe are off the 1151 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 1: radar of the average fan that you're thinking, men, these 1152 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 1: guys might have a shot at being somebody who everybody knows, 1153 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: who their name, what their name is. Yeah, it was. 1154 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a different week. It 1155 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: was the first time in a few years where we 1156 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: didn't have that kind of big name quarterback or multiple 1157 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: for that matter. It was a position that was a 1158 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: little bit watered down, you know, kind of the you know, 1159 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: unfortunate series of events that happened. Will Levis backs outs. 1160 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 1: That's the benefacks out. So not the greatest as far 1161 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: as that position goes. But there were certainly some other 1162 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: players that I thought really stood out. You know, I'm 1163 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: trying to think of some who may apply. Oh, Cyrus 1164 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Torrence was a big run blocking guard who moved with 1165 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: Billy and Naprier to Florida. Came from Louisiana of course, 1166 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: Louisiana was a big offensive line factory there for a 1167 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: couple of years Underbilly, and I thought he really held 1168 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: up well. You know, that's another position that theoretically you 1169 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: could see the Bills using, you know, first round pick. 1170 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: Questionable maybe, but that's a player who I could see 1171 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: me in a nice kind of addition to what they need. 1172 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: You know, Keanu Beenton defensive line. If we're talking you know, 1173 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: a year or two down the road as far as 1174 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: next year's for agents, things like that, you know you 1175 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 1: have to consider, like, you know what if we're in 1176 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: the spot with Ed Oliver, right, I mean there's you 1177 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 1: always want to have that reserves in place. And Ben 1178 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: in the defensive tackle from Wisconsin, I thought did a 1179 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: really nice job down there. I knew about him. I'm 1180 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 1: only about an hour and a half from Madison, so 1181 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 1: I've seen him in person too, But it almost felt 1182 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 1: like his kind of coming out party down there. Some 1183 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: of the receivers really stood out and look good. I 1184 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: know that's a position that Buffalo certainly could could stockpile 1185 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: a little bit at. And yeah, I mean those are 1186 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: the running back Taj Spears really looked nice down there, 1187 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: and some of the offensive tackles I thought did a 1188 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 1: good job as well. Yeah, one receiver that I've kind 1189 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: of had my eye on, just because I think he 1190 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: fits the mold physically of what the Bills could be 1191 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 1: in the market for, because it just seems like they've 1192 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: got a ton of slot guys and they might need 1193 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: somebody that is versatile enough to go outside ending inside 1194 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: the smu kid? Is it Rashi Rice? Is that how 1195 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: you say his first name? What did you think of him? 1196 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 1: A little bit of a quiet week. I came in 1197 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 1: really excited about him. He's got a little bit of 1198 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 1: a slender build I would compare just physically speaking. I'm 1199 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: not saying he's the same player, but maybe like a 1200 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins type almost so kind of long and lean, 1201 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 1: almost these spidery looking a receiver. He's very fluid, very 1202 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 1: clean in his breaks. Didn't make any spectacular catches or 1203 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, torch defensive backs all week long. I was 1204 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: a little surprised that he didn't show out more down there, 1205 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: but he did. I wouldn't go as far as to 1206 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: say he had a bad week. It was just very 1207 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 1: very quiet week. So that happens sometimes, and I can't 1208 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 1: remember if he was out there for practice all three 1209 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: days or not. I don't have my notes in front 1210 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 1: of me, but you know, certainly looked apart as far 1211 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 1: as how he moved on the field. You'd like to 1212 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: see how natural these receivers are, you know, obviously when 1213 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: things are going as close to full speed as possible. 1214 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, I would put him among the five or 1215 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: six sort of most complete receivers. He really took a 1216 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 1: step forward last year, I thought too, not just with 1217 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: the volume of work he produced, but also the added 1218 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: attention that came with it. He was at number one 1219 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and they were going to throw him the ball twelve 1220 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: to fourteen times a game, it felt like. And he's 1221 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: still found a way to haul in a lot of 1222 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: those graphs. So I like the player a lot. I 1223 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: think he's probably a second rounder if I had a 1224 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: guest right now, But a lot of that may also 1225 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,479 Speaker 1: depend on what happens at the combine too. Well. You're 1226 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of guys that are trying to do 1227 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, you do the mock draft just like everybody 1228 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,919 Speaker 1: in Man. You talk about a roll of the dice, 1229 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: trying to get it right. You've got the bills like 1230 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 1: you like a lot of other people are telling the 1231 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Bills to take this Bijean Robinson, the Texas running back. 1232 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,879 Speaker 1: He's a junior coming out, He's big, fast, and like everybody, 1233 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 1: the Bills pick at number twenty seven in the first round, 1234 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,600 Speaker 1: but everybody says Bijean Robbins's talent says he should go 1235 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,839 Speaker 1: way higher. But because he's a running back, nobody values 1236 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 1: that spot like they used to, so he will be 1237 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: there probably at twenty seven. The Bills should take him. 1238 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: Tell us about him and why, Yeah, that's one of 1239 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 1: those picks where I get to that point in the 1240 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: first round and say, like you just said, top ten 1241 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 1: prospect roughly, you know, if you're just strowing regardless of position, 1242 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: pure talent evaluation, he deserves to be in the conversation. 1243 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: I think he's special. I would put Jamir Gibbs not 1244 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: too far behind him, the Alabama via Georgia Tech running back. 1245 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 1: So you know, then it comes down to the question 1246 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: is would a team like the Bills like the you know, 1247 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean others sort of you know, the Eagles have 1248 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: two first round picks. Other teams where you could say, 1249 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 1: maybe it's a luxury selection in some regards, but boy, 1250 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: it's hard to overlook that talent, especially if Singletary isn't 1251 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: in their long term plans. So yeah, I can get 1252 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: away with those picks in January February. You know, the 1253 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,440 Speaker 1: later the season goes, people get a little more irritated. 1254 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: But it does bring up a fascinating debate. What happens 1255 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: when a player who at a position normally wouldn't take 1256 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 1: in round one falls that fars the second round pick. 1257 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, at that point, I think there's a realistic 1258 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: debate that could happen. Well, here's the debate. It comes 1259 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: down to se Quon Barkley, who was one of those 1260 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 1: generational talents picked at number three by the Giants and 1261 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: now here he is. Was that pick in retrospect? Do 1262 01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 1: the Giants make that pick again? My gut says no, 1263 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: But it's a soft no, I think right. I mean, 1264 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: the way he played this year, I think warranted. You know, 1265 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: that high of a pick. He was terrific. I don't 1266 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: think they make the playoffs without him having the kind 1267 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: of season he did. Dale Jones obviously as well too, 1268 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: but obviously a lot of Buffalo connections there. I'm sure 1269 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people were watching that team and realizing 1270 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: how big a role he played. And I do think 1271 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: the run game is starting to cycle back into the NFL. 1272 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 1: We're starting to see, you know, as defenses go smaller 1273 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 1: and more nickel and dime, offenses are going to try 1274 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,759 Speaker 1: to throw an extra tight end out there, or unbalanced lines, 1275 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: or just get bigger and try to pound the ball. 1276 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,959 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you, especially if you don't have that elite quarterback? 1277 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, I don't know. I kind 1278 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,679 Speaker 1: of go back and forth on this one a little bit. Yeah, 1279 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 1: it's not a premium position, but could it be an 1280 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 1: important one in the right system? Sure? And sequon. I 1281 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: just think two was very, very high. I'd have to 1282 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: go back and remind myself who was available, But they weren't. 1283 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 1: They weren't unhappy with how he played, and his draft 1284 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: status didn't factor in with a new regime. I don't 1285 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 1: think eric last one for me. If you could handicap 1286 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: how you think the first round will play out? Because 1287 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 1: all everything we're hearing is the receiver class doesn't have 1288 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: quite as many of the alpha male receivers as the 1289 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 1: last couple of years have had, So I guess we're 1290 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 1: not really expecting the first round to be completely flooded 1291 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 1: with receivers as it's been, you know, the last couple 1292 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 1: of years. We know the tight end class is unusually strong. 1293 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: We've seen as many as five get listed in the 1294 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 1: top fifty prospects, and the tackle class looks pretty good 1295 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 1: at the top. So how do we I guess the 1296 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: reason I'm asking this, Eric is I'm curious what talent 1297 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: is going to get pushed down to the bills at 1298 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: twenty seven with the way that Round one might play out. Yeah, 1299 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 1: You're right, there may not be that one true difference maker. 1300 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Although I like Zay Flowers quite a bit at Boston College. 1301 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 1: I know people worry about the size, but I think 1302 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna end up being a really dynamic player. Twinton Johnson, 1303 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: I know there's some mixed for you know, reviews on 1304 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and Jordan Addison. The size question will come up with 1305 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 1: him too, although if I look he reminds me of 1306 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: Stefan Digs in a lot of ways. But I think 1307 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: tackle is definitely a little stronger at the top. So 1308 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,640 Speaker 1: I think there will be a receiver there who you 1309 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,600 Speaker 1: would you would look at and say it wouldn't necessarily 1310 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 1: be a reach to take him at this spot, then 1311 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: tight end. You kind of pivot to that spot and 1312 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: think how many go above the bill's pick um. I 1313 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 1: think there's a chance that one, possibly two do Yeah. 1314 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 1: If that happens, then you think, boy, are we really 1315 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: taking the third tight end in round one? Unusual year? Yes, 1316 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: but I don't know there's a there's a difference of 1317 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 1: opinion there. There really are four I think guys who 1318 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 1: could end up in the in the first round picture 1319 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: picture the Notre Dame title n Mayor. Luke Musgrave from 1320 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Oregon State, athletically gifted, could run a high four fours 1321 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 1: in Indie, Darnielle Washington, massive kid with incredible strength and 1322 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 1: great athleticism for the size. And Dalton Kinkaid from Utah 1323 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 1: too who you know, maybe he's Mark Andrews. So I mean, 1324 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: all four of those guys could end up in the 1325 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: first round. I don't think all four will, but all 1326 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: four have a chance. So is it tempting if only 1327 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 1: one goes off the board before that and you're sitting 1328 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 1: there looking at King Kaid saying this is our our 1329 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,680 Speaker 1: Dawsons Knox Insurance and he can also play at the 1330 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,600 Speaker 1: same time, maybe I wouldn't be stunned, Eric, are you 1331 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 1: going to the combine in Indianapolis? I will for longer 1332 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 1: than I realized too. This is gonna be like an 1333 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: eight day journey for too far. I'm only about four 1334 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: hours down the road, but I'm staying through. This is 1335 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 1: my first year with NFL media, and we'll be in 1336 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: the suits watching the workouts and stuff. I've never done 1337 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: that before. I've been to probably fifteen to these things 1338 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: that I've never been behind the window, so to speak. 1339 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll it'll be kind of fun to get 1340 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,280 Speaker 1: a first hand view of what we've seen on TV 1341 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 1: for years. Well, we hope to cross pass with you. 1342 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 1: We'll be down there as well. Good luck, travels safe 1343 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on with us today. Appreciate it, 1344 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 1: pleasures mine. Thank you both. All Right. That's Eric Dholme, 1345 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 1: NFL dot com lead draft writer, joining us and kind 1346 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,679 Speaker 1: of spelling out his thoughts on the twenty twenty two 1347 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 1: draft class for the Bills. After a year in the books. 1348 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 1: We will take a break here when we come back, Moria, 1349 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: phone calls and thoughts on the tweet sheet about who 1350 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: you think from that Bills twenty twenty two draft class 1351 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 1: could have the biggest jump in production and play from 1352 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,720 Speaker 1: year one to year two. This fall back in a 1353 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: moment here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right 1354 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: back here on one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 1355 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: with you. Headed back to the tweet sheet. As we've 1356 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 1: been asking you today, which Bill's rookie do you believe 1357 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 1: we'll have the biggest jump in development and production on 1358 01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,600 Speaker 1: the field from year one to year two, Steve says 1359 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheets, since you use the word jump, 1360 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: I would have to say it's shakier. Cook, Elam and 1361 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Benford were utilized a lot more than shakier. It's unfortunate 1362 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: because according to a stat I saw the other day, 1363 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 1: he was open more than any other rookie receiver against 1364 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: man coverage. Yeah, and you know, one of our callers earlier, 1365 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 1: I think it was Mark, pointed out that his workload 1366 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: increased in Week eighteen and in the two playoff games, 1367 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: and he made plays. I distinctly remember a big third 1368 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: down play down the middle of the field. He set 1369 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: up the touchdown two with the corner route that got put. 1370 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 1: He got pushed out of bounds just outside the five. 1371 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: He set up first and goal at the first and goal, 1372 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 1: and I get it to beach. Well, we've all seen, 1373 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, football fans will know. You got these guys 1374 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 1: that you think you know wherever it is, they just 1375 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,720 Speaker 1: seem to slide into the day. Cole Beasley's like that, 1376 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,799 Speaker 1: and Khalil Shakir seems to be one of those guys 1377 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: where he just turns up right where you need him 1378 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: to be. He has without turn around looking at the defender, 1379 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 1: he finds the dead area and seems more open and 1380 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 1: not for nothing. In this year that we passed the 1381 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,960 Speaker 1: two things that we talk about all the time, or 1382 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: the drop passes and the interceptions, none of that stuff 1383 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 1: seemed to affect Shaker. He seemed not to drop passes, 1384 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 1: and when they were thrown to him there was I 1385 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: don't remember it ever being intercepted. Maybe it happened early. 1386 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,480 Speaker 1: He just seems like one of those guys that's incredibly dependable. 1387 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 1: He may not be in like a game breaking speed athlete, 1388 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 1: unbelievable matchup problem, but the guy is productive and you know, 1389 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: it's just says a lot about where he came in 1390 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 1: his first year. I'm with you. I think the guy's mature. 1391 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I think Josh will trust him more and more as 1392 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 1: he gets more reps with him on the field, and 1393 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 1: late last season, I think he was a dependable pro 1394 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: and that says a lot. He's kind of got that 1395 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: chill California attitude, like nothing gets him bent out of 1396 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: shape too easily. Yeah, and he has a route savvy 1397 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 1: to his game. As Steve said that I think is 1398 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 1: wise beyond his years. So yeah, I think he is 1399 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 1: a very good candidate for a big jump in year two. 1400 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Tiffany on the tweet sheet says, in my opinion, Benford 1401 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 1: has a chance to potentially move to safety and have 1402 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play significant snaps, especially with the possibility 1403 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,360 Speaker 1: of Poyer moving on in free agency. Now, I don't 1404 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: think that Benford is going to be the only option 1405 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 1: at safety for the Bills come training camp, because, as 1406 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 1: is usually the case, the Bills don't put all the 1407 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: eggs in one basket, especially if, in fact, the Bills 1408 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,799 Speaker 1: are forced to replace a player the caliber of Poyer, 1409 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 1: So a veteran or two are probably coming in. But 1410 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 1: as we stated on the show yesterday, much like the 1411 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: offensive line is going to turn over just from a 1412 01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 1: sheer number standpoint, so too is the safety position. Because Poyer, 1413 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,679 Speaker 1: Jaquan Johnson, Dean Marlowe are all unrestricted free agents. Cam 1414 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,439 Speaker 1: Lewis is restricted for agent, and we don't know what 1415 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: the future of Damar Hamlin is at this moment. That's 1416 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,839 Speaker 1: five guys out of your six at the safety position 1417 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: who are unknowns right now, right, it's Benford and Hide. 1418 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,680 Speaker 1: And that's if Benford makes the full time switch from 1419 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 1: corner to safety, which is still an if as well 1420 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 1: well he may have no choice if he might not, 1421 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 1: but yes, yeah, so from a sheer number standpoint, that 1422 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 1: position is going to be heavily addressed this office, say, 1423 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 1: much like offensive line because the contracts that you think 1424 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 1: this though, and also the Bills do have a little 1425 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,880 Speaker 1: bit of you know, positive vibe coming out about where 1426 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 1: their team is, their championship window, the track record of 1427 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 1: guys who have played safety, albeit mostly poorer and Hide, 1428 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 1: the fact that they've got five guys coming off the 1429 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,120 Speaker 1: roster from a year ago will make this a really 1430 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,439 Speaker 1: attractive landing spot for a safety that has maybe a 1431 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 1: little name cachet. Guys who are out there, they may say, listen, 1432 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: I can take that spot and I can ride those 1433 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,479 Speaker 1: guys to a super you know, Super Bowl as well. 1434 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Give me a chance that this is a really attractive 1435 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 1: spot to come in and land because it's wide open. 1436 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 1: You've got a rookie corner as your top safety competition. 1437 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 1: Guys will want to come in and see if they 1438 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 1: can get on the field. Certainly guys are going to 1439 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 1: be highly motivated to do that. So that's one benefit 1440 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 1: that the Bills may reap from having their roster gutted 1441 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 1: by contracts and injuries and all the things that have 1442 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,599 Speaker 1: happened to the safety position for him. Elsewhere on the 1443 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 1: tweet sheet, Jeremy says, I think Shakier at this moment. 1444 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 1: This will be dependent on the draft and free agency. 1445 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Of course, he showed decent flashes when given the opportunity. 1446 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: If Josh quits the hero Ball, I think Shakier will shine. 1447 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 1: We should have a running total of hero Ball comments. 1448 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 1: He did fall victim to it again last year. I 1449 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: don't think there's a question about that. Yeah, I didn't 1450 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,559 Speaker 1: make a share of plays. He always will. But I 1451 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: think when we saw the success that Maholmes had going 1452 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:59,679 Speaker 1: to a more short to intermediate passing game, his completion 1453 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,760 Speaker 1: enage went up, their efficiency went up. They led the 1454 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 1: league in scoring with a completely new receiving corps with 1455 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 1: the exception of McCole, Hardman and Travis Kelsey, and they 1456 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,680 Speaker 1: also led the league. What did they say? They led 1457 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,680 Speaker 1: the league in scoring and the home still through for 1458 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: five thousand yards and was one of the Yeah, I 1459 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 1: don't know how much I don't want Josh to try 1460 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 1: and be somebody else. I like what I was at. 1461 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,600 Speaker 1: But I will say this, when in the beginning of 1462 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 1: the season, when they scored seventy two points in two games, 1463 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,840 Speaker 1: they were not going down the field. They did it 1464 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,879 Speaker 1: once in a while, but it was as an exception. 1465 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Then when they hit the Pittsburgh game in Week five, yes, 1466 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: they started chucking chuck with enormous success. And the Pittsburgh's 1467 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 1: defense was a train. And I don't know whether they 1468 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: got drunk or whatever on that, but man, they just 1469 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: never took their hands off the wheel again. I mean, 1470 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 1: they just kept putting their foot on the gas and 1471 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:04,559 Speaker 1: trying for it. But I'm with you, Josh is if 1472 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 1: he does decide to spread it around and go quick 1473 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 1: and go short and be more efficient, that the long 1474 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: ball will come back. I'd be I would love to 1475 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,479 Speaker 1: get into the quarterback room and listen to Ken Dorsey 1476 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 1: and you know Joe Brady and Josh, and then you 1477 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,680 Speaker 1: know case Keenum last year lay out the philosophy, the 1478 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,560 Speaker 1: philosophy and the mindset Josh had about where he was 1479 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 1: throwing the football and wine all that and whether there 1480 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,760 Speaker 1: was a trend in Josh's mind. So we gotta rip 1481 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,840 Speaker 1: it off here. And just so it's clear, I'm not 1482 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 1: saying you have to go all in on the efficiency 1483 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 1: model just because it works for Kansas City, but I 1484 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 1: think there is some merit to leaning efficiency in an 1485 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 1: effort to stay on the field. And that's not that 1486 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 1: that was a problem for the Bills either. They led 1487 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,000 Speaker 1: the league in third down efficiency. But as we found 1488 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: out in our Last Bills by the Numbers podcast when 1489 01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 1: we broke down third down on offense for the Bill, 1490 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 1: there were an awful lot of third and longs that 1491 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: were converted from a lot of Josh Allen magic that 1492 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 1: probably didn't even have to happen if the team adopted 1493 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,040 Speaker 1: more of an efficient model on first and second down 1494 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,400 Speaker 1: to lead to more third and manageables if you will, 1495 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 1: or third in shorts. Instead, they had a lot more 1496 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 1: third and longs. Now, they still laid the league in 1497 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,719 Speaker 1: third down conversions because they were that good an offense. 1498 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,559 Speaker 1: But that's a dicey game that you're playing when you 1499 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 1: put yourself in third and long that often, because while 1500 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 1: you may lead the league at the end of the 1501 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 1: season and third down conversions, there are going to be 1502 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,720 Speaker 1: two or three games in there where those third and 1503 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,839 Speaker 1: longs aren't converted and it could cost you possessions, points 1504 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and maybe the game. You got to stay on the 1505 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 1: field at all costs. Offensively, that's how you win. If 1506 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 1: you're on the field with the ball, they can't beat you. 1507 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,599 Speaker 1: They're not going to score any points. And there's a 1508 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 1: lot to be said for that. And I get it too. 1509 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 1: It sounds crazy, but it really is the mindset I've 1510 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 1: heard it. I remember going through with quarterbacks that I 1511 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 1: played with, not necessarily Jim, but other guys who it 1512 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: was almost too easy sometimes just take the dump off, 1513 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 1: take the dump off. It's like you're not even part 1514 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 1: of the game, and it's hard for those guys. I'm 1515 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,840 Speaker 1: not even helping here. All I gotta do. I feel 1516 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 1: like I'm settling. Yeah, exactly, I'm not even playing football. 1517 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 1: This is a high school seven on seven. I mean, 1518 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 1: and that mentality's out there, and it's surprising because it's 1519 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: it's a killer mentality. You can win games like that 1520 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: a ton and what it comes down to, obviously is 1521 01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 1: red zone offense and you gotta get it done. Joe 1522 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 1: Burrow turning to that model this year, and I'm telling 1523 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 1: you what, man, it is frustrating to play defense against. 1524 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 1: And I think even the Bills, even given the now 1525 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: from this end of the season, the offensive line that 1526 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 1: we're talking about and the guys who which you know, 1527 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,720 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis and McKenzie, those guys didn't show up like 1528 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 1: we thought they would, and they didn't you like, even 1529 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 1: with that group. And I say, even with that group, 1530 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 1: that group is good enough to do that. They are 1531 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 1: good enough to do that. And but it takes a 1532 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: quarterback willing to just dunk it with a with an 1533 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 1: arm with a cannon on it. You're asking him to 1534 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 1: shoot a BB gun. It's hard thing to ask. Mark 1535 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet says Kayer Elam he was playing 1536 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,559 Speaker 1: much better by the end of the year. I'm still 1537 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 1: excited about Cooking shakier though. Chris on the tweet sheet 1538 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,120 Speaker 1: says James Cook should get more possessions. I think he 1539 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 1: means carries or I guess time. Yeah, and hopefully we 1540 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: get some interior offensive lineman early in the draft, so 1541 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,000 Speaker 1: he should see a pretty good uptick. But honestly, hope 1542 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 1: Elam shows up as CB two next season. I think 1543 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if Kayre Elam wasn't CB two next season. Shock. 1544 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem saying it. At the end 1545 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 1: of the season, I thought Kyrie Elam turned a little 1546 01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 1: bit of a corner. Absolutely, and given what happened to 1547 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 1: him on draft, remember he's you know, put the playbook 1548 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,640 Speaker 1: on the plane. I want, you know, I want to 1549 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 1: get it right into it. And everything we've heard about 1550 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:18,920 Speaker 1: him since has not dampened my belief. He's got a 1551 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: really strong work ethic. I believe guys who work really 1552 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:30,080 Speaker 1: hard get better. And yeah, Elam is a great candidate 1553 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:36,160 Speaker 1: to be a real force next year, like a difference maker, 1554 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: like a Trey White kind of guy. I'm telling you 1555 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,200 Speaker 1: that Miami game he impressed me, and not just because 1556 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 1: of the interception that he made in the game, but 1557 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 1: when I saw him and I know one of our 1558 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:54,799 Speaker 1: callers referenced earlier Tyree Hills running an eighteen yard dig 1559 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,799 Speaker 1: and he stayed with him every step of the way. 1560 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 1: And I can't remember if he broke up the pass 1561 01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,080 Speaker 1: or if the pass was off the mark because the 1562 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 1: coverage was so good. I can't remember the last time 1563 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I saw anybody on any team run with Tyreek Hill 1564 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 1: on an eighteen yard dig. Round. Sorry, to take step 1565 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,440 Speaker 1: for step the whole way takes a lot of confidence. 1566 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's a Blazer. It takes a lot 1567 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: of confidence. That's what we saw. We saw flashes like 1568 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,680 Speaker 1: that from him. He's a first round talent because he 1569 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 1: can run fast. He's big, he's strong, he's long armed. 1570 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 1: He's an athlete. I mean guys like Kyrie Elam stand 1571 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,080 Speaker 1: out in a room full of guys who aren't athletes. 1572 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean they stand out for reasons, and that shows 1573 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:41,800 Speaker 1: up when you get on the field, even with a 1574 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 1: bunch of really great athletes. That's why you get picked 1575 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,919 Speaker 1: in the first round of the NFL Draft. You are faster, bigger, stronger, 1576 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 1: and more coordinated than the rest of the population. So 1577 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 1: when you play with confidence like he did, and as 1578 01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 1: a season war on, he got more and more red 1579 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 1: in the defense, and more and more film study and 1580 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 1: it was the third time they had played the Dolphins. 1581 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 1: He'd probably feeling really confident about what he was looking at. Yeah, 1582 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 1: and it showed break time for us here when we 1583 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 1: come back. Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet, as 1584 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,679 Speaker 1: we've been asking you all day today, which Bill's rookie 1585 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 1: we'll have the biggest jump from year one to year 1586 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: two this coming fall. Some final thoughts there next here 1587 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. It's 1588 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, it's the final thoughts on 1589 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet here in terms of rookies, that we'll 1590 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: have the biggest jump from year one to year two 1591 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster. And Garvey says dark horse Terrell Bernard. 1592 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Ray is in the same boat Terrell Bernard because he'll 1593 01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,520 Speaker 1: need to step into Edmund's role when he signs elsewhere. 1594 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 1: And finally, Jack says James Cook seems poised to take 1595 01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,559 Speaker 1: over the lead back role. If he shows the coaches 1596 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 1: they can trust his hands and shows he can pick 1597 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 1: up blitz Is, he should get many more reps. That said, 1598 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,040 Speaker 1: I hope its shakier. Love his hands, his solid size 1599 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,599 Speaker 1: and his moves after the catch. He should be our 1600 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 1: slot man going forward. Is got great hands, he catches 1601 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 1: the ball well, and he he gets every yard coming 1602 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,560 Speaker 1: to him. I mean, he's not he's not going to 1603 01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 1: outrun a lot of people, but he is going to 1604 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,080 Speaker 1: get open and be dependable. And that's what you want. 1605 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:33,640 Speaker 1: You want a guy that can move the chains and 1606 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,679 Speaker 1: you know, get a lot of targets for first downs. Period. 1607 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 1: It's not it's not that hard to figure out how 1608 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,240 Speaker 1: to how to use him, but to get a guy 1609 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 1: who just seems when you watch him so dependable. It's 1610 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 1: what a lot of Bill's fans, I think crave in 1611 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,200 Speaker 1: an offense that was depending a little bit on the 1612 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 1: big ball, you know, and the hero ball we talk 1613 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,559 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. It's nice to have a guy. It's 1614 01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 1: just I think it first down Okay, now, Alice take 1615 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,800 Speaker 1: another shot. Yeah. I think easy button completions in the 1616 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,559 Speaker 1: passing game were sorely absent from what they had been 1617 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 1: in the previous two years with Beasley in the lineup, 1618 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,799 Speaker 1: and hopefully Shakier can fill that void going into next season. 1619 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,679 Speaker 1: That is it for a Tuesday edition of One Bill. 1620 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,920 Speaker 1: Steve's going to the Sabers game tonight. Say Hi, to him. 1621 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:27,040 Speaker 1: If you see him, we'll see you tomorrow. One