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Speaker 4: It's time to back. Oh yeah, it's Monday morning. Get

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Speaker 4: fired up. Morning Combat back in your absolute facehole from

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Speaker 4: home today with a big time episode Monday, June second,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, recapping a wild apex card in the UFC,

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Speaker 4: big upsets in PBC boxing, so much more to get into. Hey,

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Speaker 4: it's also UFC three sixteen five. But Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 4: big reason. Today's a pretty big damn day and MK

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Speaker 4: show history. Because I don't know if you're peeping what

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Speaker 4: I'm rocking right there. I don't know if you're peeping

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Speaker 4: what's on the chest stash of old Luke Thomas over there, Luke,

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Speaker 4: I mean, can you see that? Hey, guys, long rumored,

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Speaker 4: now believe it. It's here right frickin' now. Morning Combat

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Speaker 4: Merch three point zero has arrived. Merch is back. Somebody

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Speaker 4: tells Saul we are live right now Morningcombat dot Shop.

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Speaker 4: In addition to your old favorites, we'll be releasing limited

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Speaker 4: edition merch each month. For June, we have the skits

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Speaker 4: and Bitch shirt that I'm rocking right now. We got

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Speaker 4: twenty four MK Beavis and butt Head posters autographed by

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Speaker 4: is live, It is ready to go, Luke Thomas. We

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Speaker 4: have special thanks of course to Long Island Luke Nosita,

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Speaker 4: the great illustrator Average Joe Romero, who played a big

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Speaker 4: role in getting back on the map. How do you

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Speaker 4: feel today, Luke, that finally all the money's going to us,

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Speaker 2: Well we're sharing it with no Cita as well. Right,

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Speaker 2: return to a viable place to go. So Morning Coombat

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Speaker 2: Dot Shop, Morningcombat Dot Shop PC gave you all the details.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to all of the viewers and the listeners

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Speaker 2: your while. Thank you so much for all of your

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Speaker 4: And we are going to have, as mentioned, new stuff

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Speaker 4: He's the director, producer, bong enthusiast of this show and

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Speaker 4: only do you play a huge role in this show,

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Speaker 4: the ground without you, without Average Joe Art. So thank

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Speaker 4: This is the future MK Merch three point zero.

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Speaker 4: It's it's right, come on, Luke, it's all right, tough.

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Speaker 2: So can we How can we support the show? Many

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Speaker 2: How about this poor Tuki, right, Okay, so we find

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Speaker 4: great time over the weekend, Luke, happy to see the

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Speaker 4: if you forgot already, you not only get MK today,

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Speaker 4: but two days from now in New York City, Meadow

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Speaker 4: Larks Studio is eleven am Eastern at morning Combat on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: We're coming back, thankfully brought to you by Quervo. It's

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Speaker 2: But this one, this one, this one wakes you up.

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Speaker 4: So get the merch before Luke parrishes please Morning Combat

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Speaker 4: No doubt about that. This is a scary situation for

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess I jinxed myself because I shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no one wants to give up professional time

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Speaker 2: your life in very substantive ways. You must get an

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Speaker 2: answer to this question, and maybe the answer is b see, oh,

433
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 2: we figure this out and it's all controllable and you

434
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: can go right back to it. We've seen fighters make

435
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: seemingly miraculous comebacks even with situations where they had, you know,

436
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: brain scans that didn't come up all that great. We

437
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: just have to wait and see, but they get to

438
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Speaker 2: the bottom of it first.

439
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Speaker 4: It feels like there's something missing looking at Aaron's reaction

440
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: because I get the competitive anger, and I prepared for this,

441
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Speaker 4: and because of you, I don't get to take a

442
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Speaker 4: step ahead in my career, which is what this was

443
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 4: supposed to be about, maybe maybe even up and up

444
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Speaker 4: to and including securing a title shot. Although we said

445
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Speaker 4: coming in, I felt like it was a little bit

446
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 4: of a longer road for Blanchfield than Barbara. But we

447
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 4: can argue that. But from the standpoint of what we

448
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 4: don't know, did it sound to you at all? Based

449
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Speaker 4: upon how again cold blooded Blanchfield's comments were that maybe

450
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: she knows a little bit more than she's saying about Macy,

451
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Speaker 4: that maybe.

452
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Speaker 2: There was, I don't think so.

453
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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: What I would say is, let's take a more common

455
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Speaker 2: scenario BC. How many times have you seen a big

456
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Speaker 2: grudge matcher really any kind of fight. But let's say

457
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of bad blood on the line

458
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Speaker 2: and then one of the opponents missus wait right, and

459
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Speaker 2: then not only do they misswait, but then because of

460
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Speaker 2: the miswait, the missed weaight, and the pros that they

461
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: had to put themselves through even though they missed the weight,

462
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: they now you know, they have a medical ailment the

463
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Speaker 2: next day, and then the fight gets scrapped. We've seen

464
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Speaker 2: it a million times, right, So I mean think about

465
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Speaker 2: it if you're if now she got apparently again ko

466
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: rep said that Blanchfield's going to get her show and

467
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Speaker 2: her win money, which is great, but remember she was

468
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: entitled to more than that. If she had won, she'd

469
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Speaker 2: be entitled to show win and was it twenty or

470
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Speaker 2: thirty percent of Barber's purse. He doesn't get that either.

471
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Speaker 4: And performance of the night if you can get that too,

472
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Speaker 4: and you know everything that what.

473
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Speaker 2: I'm saying about. So it's this's a number of ways

474
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Speaker 2: in which she's kind of negatively effected here. But under

475
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Speaker 2: that consideration you would still have a degree of sympathy

476
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Speaker 2: for the fighter who had a medical issue. But then

477
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: you could say, hey, man, you got sick the next

478
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Speaker 2: day after missing weight because you are unprofessional and you

479
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: didn't make weight right, you didn't do the work necessary

480
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Speaker 2: to put yourself in a position not merely to win,

481
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Speaker 2: but to even get to the octagon. Your own unprofessionalism

482
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: cost you in those scenarios. That kind of cold bloodedness

483
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Speaker 2: that you seeing there from Blanchefield seems to be totally

484
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Speaker 2: normal to me. What's missing is this is a something

485
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Speaker 2: of a pattern. And maybe BC, maybe we don't know,

486
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to unfairly speculate, but certainly it

487
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: seems not only is there merely a pattern involved, but

488
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Speaker 2: that could there be escalating issues in other ways. Again,

489
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: a series of deep and serious unknowns that have to

490
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Speaker 2: get answered here. And in those situations, it actually inverts

491
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Speaker 2: it less about Barber's preparation and more about her suffering

492
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Speaker 2: from whatever ailment is causing these complications.

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Speaker 4: Luke, let's tie this into the bigger picture. And you know,

494
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Speaker 4: I want to say, unfortunately for the UFC, this is

495
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Speaker 4: another big notch on the negative belt of the direction

496
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Speaker 4: we're heading in twenty twenty five, where again it's not

497
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: just you and me and people in the know. You know,

498
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: what's the word you want to talk about, complain about

499
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Speaker 4: where UFC is headed, the soullessness, the money first on everything,

500
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: all of that. But then again, even though this isn't

501
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Speaker 4: directly related to being UFC's fault, they also are not

502
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: doing the type of things that that would put them

503
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Speaker 4: in a good light right now. So is it inevitable

504
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 4: that you have to sort of link this, even though

505
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: it's not the UFC's fault, with the continue continued downward

506
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Speaker 4: trend of the of the court of public opinions, you know,

507
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: pr state of where UFC is at right now, where

508
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: again it's not just you and I. I'm seeing and

509
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 4: same thing. By the way, with what's going on with

510
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 4: WWE and how angry fans are increasingly getting with TKO,

511
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 4: do you think this is another giant negative feather in

512
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Speaker 4: the cap of we have a major problem here in

513
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 4: combat sports and mixed martial arts and TKO land, and

514
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: it's only continuing to build negative apathy with the fans.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think so. But let's let's

516
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Speaker 2: try and make the case as clearly as we can.

517
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Speaker 2: First of all, what we have to say is, let's

518
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Speaker 2: actually start with a bit of good news BC. From

519
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: this point forward. The rest of June, assuming you know,

520
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: and I'm going to knock on a wood here, assuming

521
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: things stay relatively intact, the month of June should be incredible.

522
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Speaker 2: You have UFC three sixteen coming up, you have Buckley

523
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: versus Usman coming up, You've got International Fight Week coming up,

524
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: and you've got the show in Baku, Azerbaijan headlined between

525
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 2: Khalil Rowntree and Jamal Hill. Right, so you've got an

526
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: exciting month ahead. We already know UFC three eighteen's got

527
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Speaker 2: a big main event, as does UFC three nineteen. There's

528
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Speaker 2: a lot to look forward to, and it appears like

529
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Speaker 2: the calendar might be really finally heating up. That's the

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Speaker 2: first thing I want to say. The second thing I

531
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: want to say is, obviously, with this situation happening, that

532
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Speaker 2: by itself is not the fault of the UFC, And

533
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Speaker 2: in fact, to the extent that there's any promoter in

534
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: the MMA space that's doing advanced medical screening, it's going

535
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: to be the ultimate fighting championship, and that's just a reality, right,

536
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 2: So there's that as well. But here's what I did

537
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Speaker 2: want to say. There is some speculation about whether Saturday's

538
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Speaker 2: fight card is the worst one in UFC history, and

539
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Speaker 2: I think you can actually a legitimate claim that it is.

540
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: And even if you don't want to make that claim,

541
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Speaker 2: you can very much make the claim that it's the

542
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: most irrelevant card in UFC history. There's a big mistake

543
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: that everybody makes. They when they look at the list

544
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: of the fights or the events that are considered to

545
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: be the worst in UFC history. And of course, even

546
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Speaker 2: if it's a UFC event that's really bad by relative standards,

547
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: that's going to be much better than you know, a

548
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: lot virtually almost anything any other promoter can make, right,

549
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Speaker 2: So when we say worst, we are grading on a

550
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: curve here, Okay, But I do think it's because there

551
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: were there were finishes on that fight card. There were

552
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: some good fights on that fight card. It's not like

553
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: they were bad fights in and of themselves. But that's

554
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Speaker 2: why I'm calling it the most irrelevant fight card in

555
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: UFC history. UFC thirty three is kind of considered to

556
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: be the worst one in UFC history. Because they had

557
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Speaker 2: a bunch of big fights planned for it, they all

558
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Speaker 2: went to a decision such that in the main event

559
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: between Tito Ortiz and Vladimir matt Ushchenko, they went over

560
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: their time that they were allowed to be on pay

561
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Speaker 2: per view and it cut out in the middle of

562
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Speaker 2: the fight. It was considered a disaster. This was the

563
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Speaker 2: first big event under the ZUFA leadership. This was a huge,

564
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: huge mess and it sort of went in time as

565
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: like ways not to book a card and all the

566
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: things that could have gone wrong. But this is my

567
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: point in one of these situations where you know, people

568
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: think that though the worst UFC events just gonna have

569
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: all bad fights, but it's actually one where it has

570
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: like a lot of either irrelevant fights, fights that you know,

571
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: just don't end up delivering, and then some kind of

572
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 2: calamity affecting it on top. That's that's kind of what

573
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: this one is. This one had some decent action, to

574
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Speaker 2: be clear, but it didn't have anything beyond the comain

575
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Speaker 2: which ended up being the main in Ludovit, Klein and

576
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: Gamrot that had much stakes for any division maybe Kaitlyn Vieira,

577
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: but even then they had to go up a weight class.

578
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: There was numerous weight misses, there were numerous fights that

579
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: fell out right before the fight, and then it didn't

580
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: even have a main event. Ultimately, in the end, it

581
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: produced by UFC standards anyway, BCEE the most irrelevant kind

582
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Speaker 2: of MMA and didn't even have a main event in

583
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Speaker 2: the end. If there's a more irrelevant UFC card than

584
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Speaker 2: this one, I am struggling to identify which one it

585
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: could be.

586
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Speaker 4: Well, that's well said right there, and it's the same night,

587
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: by the way. We'll get into it deeper, but it's

588
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Speaker 4: the same night that they announce what we all thought

589
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: was coming, that USA Notch will not happen in Wada Lajara.

590
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: It will no longer even be a pay per view.

591
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: We'll get into that. It's just a bad time. Let's

592
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: throw to this fan tweet, which kind of sums up

593
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Speaker 4: the apathy for this card in general. Here's from Valdar

594
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: at the three l's eleven fights scheduled, Nine fights actually happened,

595
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: three weight misses, two medical issues canceling fights outside of

596
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Speaker 4: the cage. The main event got canceled. Three finishes won

597
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: by Ko, one of the more violent sustained injuries. Was

598
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Speaker 4: the one with a women's feather? What was it? What

599
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: the hell does that say? Luke w fl do women's

600
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: flyweight who is a much as much an influencer as fighter?

601
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 4: I mean, And that's as harsh as you could get.

602
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: It's also not wrong. So look, is there any part

603
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Speaker 4: of you that believes, although we know that there's no

604
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Speaker 4: APEX cards in June, there's there's two in August back

605
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Speaker 4: to back. They are doing what construction on the facility

606
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Speaker 4: in hopes of improving the amount of the you know everything,

607
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: the amenities, the amount of people that can watch. Is

608
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: this enough of a negative blow because we've been talking

609
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Speaker 4: about that in the timeline of lately, when when the

610
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: fans in London were pissed off about the ticket prices

611
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Speaker 4: and the lack of big names. Is that the first

612
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Speaker 4: sign that maybe you know things are changing in a

613
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Speaker 4: negative direction and could force change. Do you think this

614
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: horrific ending to a already bad card with bad circumstances

615
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: is enough? Maybe where they're gonna go. We can't do

616
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: this anymore. We can't put out these shitty fight night

617
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: cards in a warehouse. That's not gonna change it.

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Speaker 2: They love making money the guys at t KO love

619
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Speaker 2: making money and these cards help them make money. But

620
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Speaker 2: it just goes to show, like one point I didn't

621
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Speaker 2: make my last in my last comment is like, you know, listen,

622
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what card would be just fine losing

623
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: its main event, right, I mean, virtually any card is

624
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: going to be to a degree ruined by losing the

625
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: main event. Some are going to be more resilient than others, obviously,

626
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: but it's a big it's a big deal. So in

627
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: that sense, like losing the main event, you can be

628
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: very forgiving of the card in that sense. But the

629
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: problem is one if I had to tell you that

630
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: the most irrelevant UFC card of all time took place

631
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Speaker 2: in this era, would that in any way be surprising?

632
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: Probably not? Probably not. And then more broadly, it's like, dude,

633
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: these APEX card they just have their bare bones, you

634
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like they don't they're not filled out.

635
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: So yes, again, losing a main event is a huge problem,

636
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: but that's not all they lost. And you know, you

637
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: take a couple of pieces away and all of a

638
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 2: sudden it's just a complete different animal. I mean that

639
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: was I mean, that was Mataosh Cameron, Ludivett, Kleiner, good fighters,

640
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: and maybe there's a couple of the ones you could

641
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: throw in there, but that was basically an LFA card.

642
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 2: It was basically an LFA car, which, by the way,

643
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: LFA is a good promotion. You can see good fights

644
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: on LFA, but that's not the highest tier.

645
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Speaker 4: It's pretty fu Remind you we are in the season

646
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: of negotiation for a new broadcast deal in which the

647
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: UFC has stated their goal is to get one billion

648
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: per year to triple the value of their current one.

649
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: This is the timeline that we're running leading into that.

650
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Speaker 4: It's insane to me, Luke, it's not.

651
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Speaker 2: It's not good timing. But like you know, again unless

652
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the problem, Like you just don't

653
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Speaker 2: have an alternative. Like if you are a fan and

654
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm gonna take my NMA dollars elsewhere, Dude, No,

655
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Speaker 2: you're not.

656
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: You're not just I'm gonna take my dollars to PFL

657
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Speaker 4: South Africa whatever channel that.

658
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in Nashville next week, which is not about

659
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: not a bad place, but yeah, to your point, like,

660
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? You're gonna go give them

661
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: your money? To to PFL like it. It's nonsensical.

662
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: So, Luk, I was debating to myself which topic you

663
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: would be less interested in talking about on today's show.

664
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: So I figured I would just give you the two

665
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: topics and you can pick which one you are less

666
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: interested in talking about, all right, the negative effective breast

667
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: implants on women's MMA or Big John McCarthy's story about

668
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: John Jones sexually assaulting a commission member in the locker

669
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: room before a fight.

670
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: Boy, this is truly the sophie's choice of MMA questions here.

671
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: Can I just put a gun in my mouth instead?

672
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: Can I just do that?

673
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 4: That's too far? That is too far. I don't accept that. Wow. Wow, Wow,

674
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: I don't know how to transition out of that into

675
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: an ad read, Luke. So maybe I'll just take five

676
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: seconds to pause.

677
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: Here, Wow, what did you drop?

678
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Speaker 4: Bronsteader Luke, I'm gonna get down on the Blanco, if

691
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I'm fire up about

692
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: this pregame preview because it's it's my favorite vehicle that

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Speaker 4: we have right now to drive.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. As we said, We're gonna have

695
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: a bron with us here in studio. And like I said, dude,

696
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: for as bad as Saturday was, and it was quite

697
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: remarkably bad, the rest of the month looks great. The

698
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: rest of the month looks.

699
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Speaker 4: I mean, the summer headliners are very good too.

700
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Speaker 2: So I'm happy to just and this walk forward.

701
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and John Jones did say in some public thing

702
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: that he won't announce the Espenall fight. Luke the UFC

703
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: will can.

704
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Speaker 2: We I don't care about him anymore. I just genuinely

705
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: don't care.

706
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 4: I'm I'm still wondering about his twenties, Luke, But his

707
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: thirties have been a lot worse, a lot worse, no worse.

708
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: I don't know that the headlines in his thirties looked.

709
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: They have a pretty damn bad Okay, all right, who

710
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: would you rather be? Move on?

711
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: He's boring.

712
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: Luke doesn't want to talk about uh, probably just tattoo.

713
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: All right, You're like, all right, here we're gonna do.

714
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about potential gay sex acts or sexual

715
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: harassment in the workplace. And I'm like, yeah, we could

716
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: skip both of those.

717
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, let's go to topic number two. It's the

718
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 4: rest of UFC Fight and I for what there was

719
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: inside the apex in terms of, you know, advancements, storylines,

720
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: breakout performances. Luke and that comin event which became the

721
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: main event on paper, This was contender Miteyoush Caamra looking

722
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: to stay busy and hold his own spot contention against

723
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: unranked but rising Ludvoight Klein and over three rounds. Boy,

724
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 4: did we see that dominant wrestling ability and increased I

725
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: think urgency with the striking. At times he though it

726
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: was grappling heavy, but even when he had climbed down,

727
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: he reined it on in terms of the ground and pounds.

728
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: So Luke, considering Klein's calling card coming in, was that

729
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: plus ninety percent takedown percentage to see Gamrock just absolutely

730
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 4: control dominate in out class. Was this win impressive enough

731
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: to do more than just hold serve in this division

732
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 4: and maybe lift old Maddie Gamra to a much bigger

733
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: fight here atop this?

734
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 10: Uh?

735
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Uh, Well, he'll get a bigger

736
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: fight after this. Yes, he got to win. There are

737
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: available people, there are good fights to make. He's a

738
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: good test for certain kinds of fighters. Yes, And I

739
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: did notice him open up a little bit more with

740
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: strikes this time, although that was mostly because he could

741
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: because he had better control of Klein and therefore he

742
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: was able to open up with his strikes. But this

743
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: was not one of those fights that I watched and

744
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, like he's reborn and this

745
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: is all this is everything that I wanted to see.

746
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: Now again, he's coming off of a loss and a

747
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: very I think difficult one to accept, although a real

748
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: one against Dan Hooker, and so he you know, getting

749
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: the W was the most important thing. But I don't

750
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: know how you can watch this and be like, oh,

751
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: now I need to rethink how he matches up with

752
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: the rest of the division. He was already tough against

753
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: any of those fighters BC, But there's nothing in this

754
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: fight where you're like, oh now I need to reconsider

755
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: what other threats he brings. It's more or less maybe

756
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: a little bit extra thrown in, but basically more or

757
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: less what you knew about him before. And to your point,

758
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: I'll give you know, Listen, it sounds like I'm backing

759
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: on Gamro and I'm not. Klein came in with that

760
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: more than ninety percent takedown defensive rate, and you would

761
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: have not known that with the way Gamrock was handling him.

762
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: That was pretty impressive. That was you know, this was

763
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: Gamrock made the point. We even talked about it on

764
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: Friday SHOWBC. We even said, like, we looked at the

765
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: names that he's ninety percent above against. It's like, yeah,

766
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 2: but none of these guys wrestle like Gamrock. Well, sure enough,

767
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: Gamrot's a level. It's not to say he's the high level.

768
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: Be see, he's high level. He's a very very good fighter.

769
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: But I just don't know how you can look at

770
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: this and come away with the conclusion that, like there's

771
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: something else being added beyond what we basically already knew

772
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: about him.

773
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Speaker 4: True, true, Klein did have a seven fight on Beaten

774
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: Street coming in he was surging, even though, as we

775
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: just said, this was basically a fight to hold Gamroth's place,

776
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 4: and it became the main event, unfortunately after it already

777
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 4: ended in a lot of ways, but it did. It

778
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: was Gamrot at least holding serve and showing us that

779
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: in his early thirties he's trying his best to put

780
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 4: the full game together. He does have an impressive record.

781
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: He does have victories over very key contenders in this division,

782
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: including Armant Sarukian. So in terms of who he wants next,

783
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: let's let Gamrot tell us himself.

784
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 11: I can I can change Ben your nickname. He has

785
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 11: nicknamed Good, but I can change this nickname my good

786
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 11: Good of comfort Zone, because bro, he got the help

787
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 11: fight with me one week before. Many times she call

788
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 11: call out me like I want to fight with Gamrod,

789
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 11: he gets opportunity and he said, no, bro, what the

790
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 11: fuck good of comfort Zone? Is that a fight that

791
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 11: you hope hope happened?

792
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 7: Like, do you want that fight to happen in Paris,

793
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 7: Abu Dhabi somewhere else?

794
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 11: I think Paris his hometowns will be good. Like another time.

795
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 11: I will be myself against everybody, no problem. His big

796
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 11: name in French. So if I get mine event, five

797
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 11: rounds with him and I will enjoy this time. This

798
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 11: is like September right this three months later, perfect timing.

799
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 11: I back to home, I rest, then I beg to Florida.

800
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 11: Prepare give me this guy.

801
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: So look, even though I love this fight on paper,

802
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: the idea of Gamera against the good of comfort Zone.

803
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh, don't be mocking his accent.

804
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 4: I'm just relaying what he said. He is ranked number seven, Gamrod.

805
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 4: He just beat an unranked fighter and now he's gonna

806
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 4: wants the number thirteenth ranked fighter in BSD, who I

807
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: do agree is better than is ranking. Is that the

808
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: right call? Or should he be looking into that top

809
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: five and saying, hey, gaechee, hey whomever, let's get hey

810
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: sar Rouki and I beat you yet you've lapped me,

811
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 4: let's do it again.

812
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: I mean, if he's calling out the Bsd's of the world,

813
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: he probably has an idea that he needs to get

814
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: the matchmakers on his side, you know what I'm saying, Like,

815
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: why would you fight BSD well? Because you know he's

816
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: gonna bring it. It's gonna be action packed. He'll probably

817
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: bring it in the way which it will accommodate Gamra's

818
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: existing style, which means he'll get an exciting fight against

819
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: the known contender that's respected and he'll probably win. So

820
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: that makes a lot more sense to me than just

821
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: being like, Hey, I beat a guy on the most

822
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: irrelevant card in UFC history. Can I have a title shot? Now?

823
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

824
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: Like, did you like the swagger? Though in the post

825
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: fight interview, I'm gonna guess you had the volume down,

826
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 4: but he was almost doing like a shtick like, yeah,

827
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: let's go, I've taken anybody, Like he was kind of

828
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: trying to show some some riz if you will, some uh,

829
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 4: you know.

830
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: Some wrizzler. Is that what the kid does or is

831
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: it like this? I can't quite I can't. You know.

832
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: There's this, there's this, and then you got to do

833
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: this along the fat lineatlash Yeah. Right, well, it's like,

834
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's.

835
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: That's where he taught, that's where he tells his servants

836
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 2: to tie his bib, like right.

837
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: By the way. By the way, the Wrizzler had a

838
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 4: question with his name as the answer on Jeopardy in

839
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: the past week, did a collab with Elmo. Meanwhile, the

840
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: Costco guys are still like debating how much money they'll

841
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: spend on their Costco trip and interviewing shoppers like they

842
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: have this just what ones are running.

843
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: I can't believe guys whose personalities are deals at Costco

844
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: didn't have staying power in any way in terms of

845
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: public relevancy. How could that be a thing?

846
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 4: All right, well, Gamra truck.

847
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: So the Wrizzler's gonna die of type two diabetes, I mean,

848
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: what are we talking about?

849
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 11: Right?

850
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 4: Didn't you also say that, uh, that big aj was

851
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: gonna ben wah down the street? I mean, what are

852
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: we doing here right.

853
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: In Big ag? Oh yeah, he was gonna ben wam up.

854
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: I mean he might you never know.

855
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 4: But all right, I mean bj Penn got arrested three

856
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: times in a few days.

857
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Luke, and this is six days.

858
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do we end up here? I don't know,

859
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: but hey, gam Rot, nice win Luke. When we look

860
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: up and down the rest of this card, No, this.

861
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Is where we got it. This is where we got

862
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: to bring in main card minute Fiscionado. I want to

863
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: hear him. I want to hear him spin this one up.

864
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll spin it for you. I mean, Jordan Levitt

865
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: looked great against Kurt Hollibah. Got a nice sub there.

866
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: He did look, he did look Nicemis.

867
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: Brahimaj knock or knocking, choking Billy Ray Golf unconscious.

868
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: That he had a great, very inspiring post fight speech.

869
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: Erry inspiring its own.

870
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 5: Dustin Jacobi also knocked out Bruno Lopez. That was a

871
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 5: fun fight.

872
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't think much of you know,

873
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 2: the opponent in this case, but I will he's doing great.

874
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: I will say.

875
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 5: You know, it's a bad card because I was having

876
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 5: trouble figuring out who they were going to get the

877
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 5: bonuses too, and not because there were too many things

878
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 5: to choose from. They were too little. We only had

879
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 5: three finishes, so you can't do four Performance of the nights,

880
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: and there was no fucking fight of the night. On

881
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: this card. I don't care what anyone says.

882
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: No, there was definitely the fight of that. Why do

883
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: you think Jacobe didn't get a bonus?

884
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, And I was actually uh, because he's

885
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 5: a mid carter.

886
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: He had the fucking only TKO stoppage on this whole thing.

887
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, I know.

888
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: They gave it to Levitt Brahimage, and then they gave

889
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 5: a Fight of the Night to Ardelian Dos Santos, which

890
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 5: I don't think deserved it.

891
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: I don't mind that because it rarely does the very

892
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: first fight on a car to ever get Fight of

893
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: the night, and so the one time that it does.

894
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: But this is what I mean, dude, if you're giving

895
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: Fight of the Night to the fucking curtain jerker, holy shit, man,

896
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: you must have been suffering for greatness out there.

897
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: You know, Hey, Luke Brahimage had been trading wins and

898
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: losses over a ten fights stretch and now has back

899
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 4: to back finishes of Mickey gall By KO and now

900
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: they put him to sleep against Connecticut's Billy ray Goff.

901
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 4: When you pair that with the exciting or sorry, the

902
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: inspirational speech he gave in that thick, thick Bronx accent.

903
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: Should we be looking for him at welterweight or was

904
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: this the worst card of all time and it's time

905
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: to move on? Thought?

906
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, it's a nice win. He looked.

907
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he dispatched an overmatched opponent very very quickly.

908
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: He did exactly what he was supposed to. It's hard

909
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: to say what that means about his total upside. But

910
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: nice wins, nice nice speeches. They get you noticed and

911
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: it moves him up the chain. Let's see what he

912
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: can do next. But good win, and you can't just

913
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: say not not. All these wins mean so much about

914
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: the next one, at least from the outside looking in.

915
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: And this is one of those cases, all right.

916
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: Speaking of Dustin Jacoby in his light heavyweight till against

917
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: Bruno Lopes, which lasted just a few minutes, Luke, he

918
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: did say afterwards, now with two consecutive knockout victories over prospects,

919
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: that he wants to be looked at as a contender

920
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: and not just a veteran sort of gatekeeper tough out.

921
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: Is this enough to begin that transition where USC starts

922
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: to match him against you know, more willing live bodies

923
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 4: in the rankings.

924
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: Dustin Jacoby. Yes, So he had that bad loss against

925
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: Reyes and then since then he's put together two good

926
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: wins in a row. I think that's right.

927
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's thirty seven. It was the Reyus knockout in

928
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: the first round, which was right after a loss to

929
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: Lonzo Menifield, and it was in a stretch where he

930
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 4: dropped four fights, four losses in five fights.

931
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: Right, but he's had two good stoppages in a row.

932
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's good for action. You know,

933
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: it's hard to say exactly what he is beyond that. Remember,

934
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: Dustin Jacoby was one of the original guys who did

935
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: the Road to Glory series. They were trying to find

936
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: American kickboxers and he went and had I think a

937
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: modicum of success there certainly. But he's back in MMA

938
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: and I think it definitely leveled up his striking. You know,

939
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: how good he is ultimately in the division BC is

940
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: a little hard to tell, and probably you know, we've

941
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: probably seen the highest of the upside. But he's putting

942
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: together a nice win streak. He is reliable for action.

943
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: He doesn't you know, he doesn't put on boring performances.

944
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: He tends to, you know, give you what he has,

945
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 2: keep him busy as far as I'm concerned.

946
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: You know, all right, Kitlyn Vieira at women's bantam weight

947
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: missed weaight forfeited twenty five percent of her purse. They

948
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 4: had to make it a one to forty five bout

949
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 4: against Macy scha is On and you know, Vieira dominated

950
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: with grappling for the most part and then celebrated like

951
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: she won the super Bowl. But do we cut her

952
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: at the legs because she missed weight here? Luke?

953
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. You gotta make weight? Sorry, I mean, no,

954
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: gotta make weight.

955
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: And did Jordan Levitt, who did put that anaconda choke

956
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: on Kurt holl the ball and put him to sleep

957
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 4: in round one? Did he walk in terms of in

958
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: cage torking so that Aileen Perez could run? Luke?

959
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little sick of the torking. Can I

960
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: be honest?

961
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 4: Okay, like all in general, with all Latin women or

962
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: just with UFC.

963
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: Fighters, just the UFC fighters. Yeah, it's a little You know.

964
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: If you're if your Shakira tickets had come through, there'd

965
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: be a there'd be a lot of a lot.

966
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be crying about that, but

967
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: you know I've had enough of it in the cage.

968
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. All right?

969
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: Anything else you want to say about you have see

970
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: Fight Nights Apex's TV deals BC wanting and complaining that

971
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 4: his second favorite sports sucks the horn this year.

972
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: Anything else, no good?

973
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 4: All right, Well, we'll put that behind us here and

974
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 4: let's transition into topic number three, which just might continue

975
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: the trend I was just talking about, or maybe it won't.

976
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: Let's get Luke's opinion on this Noche UFC, which was

977
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: originally scheduled to be a pay per view card UFC

978
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: three twenty on Saturday, September thirteenth in Wadalajara, despite constant,

979
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: constant rumors that the arena would not be finished its creation,

980
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 4: and after so many concerts and other events were canceled.

981
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: Now we're seeing UFC slipping it in as an announcement

982
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: during Saturday's APEX card that no Cha UFC is moving

983
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: from Wadalajara to San Antonio, Texas. It'll stay on the

984
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: same day, it'll no longer be a pay per view fight.

985
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: We don't know how that will change the matchmaking. Remember

986
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: it appeared as if they Vulcanevsky rematch with Ayer Rodriguez

987
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: was going to be rushed into place, not because it

988
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: was it was you know, earned or desired, but because

989
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: of the Mexican connection. But Luke, a lot of changes here,

990
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: and it does connect, by the way, with all of

991
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 4: these still unknown issues related to Turkey Aloshic and Dana

992
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: White and TKO boxing, this opens up you know, a

993
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: can of worms on that. But let's get into this

994
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: actual thing. According to UFC's own message, it appears now

995
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: that it's not a pay per view as I mentioned,

996
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: Was this the right call for the UFC, considering everything

997
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 4: going on from the arena to the unknown about Canelo

998
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: Crawford on the same night, Is this the right move

999
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 4: for the UFC given.

1000
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: That this is a blessing they lucked out with this.

1001
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: Now put the UFC's message up here because I want

1002
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: to make sure we're talking on the same kinds of terms.

1003
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: If you can on along island, Luke. This is what

1004
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: they wrote via tweet. The third Annual Noia UFC will

1005
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: now take place at the Frostbank Center in San Antonio,

1006
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: Texas on September thirteenth, That is that Saturday. Doch a

1007
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night Card will celebrate and honor the remarkable

1008
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: and listen to what they wrote here at the note

1009
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: JA UFC Fight Night Card will celebrate and on the

1010
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: remarkable contributions of Mexican fighters to combat sports and continues

1011
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: UFC's great tradition of holding an event around Mexican Independence Day. Okay,

1012
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: as BC indicator, Well, I'm sure we'll get to in

1013
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: a minute. There is, of course, what does this mean

1014
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: for Dana White now and TKO and Canelo Crawford and

1015
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. But putting that to the side, BC,

1016
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: just on the MMA side, UFC should be grateful about this.

1017
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: They actually caught a break. In my view, we keep

1018
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: talking about how they're making content that and making events

1019
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: along lines that are designed for maximum revenue generation or

1020
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: a broader revenue strategy where we're going to go to

1021
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 2: places when they pay us to go in this sort

1022
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 2: of highest bidder government contracting sense, rather than taking fights

1023
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: to cities where that fight makes sense for that city.

1024
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: But here you have a situation BC where now it's

1025
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: pairs by the UFC's own language, it's not a pay

1026
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: per view, so you don't have to make VULK versus

1027
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: Yaieir two a fight that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

1028
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. Now you can make

1029
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: Yaiir versus Diego Lopez a fight that makes sense and

1030
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: is absolutely perfect for this main event of this card.

1031
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: And San Antonio, Texas has a vast Mexican American population,

1032
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: as we all know the card. Cheweewe's right, yeah, exactly.

1033
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: There's a ton of stuff you can do so you

1034
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: are relieved of that pressure. And as you indicated before BC,

1035
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: now because it's not a pay per view, you can

1036
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: then shift your focus for September to a different card

1037
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: where you can now put on a proper pay per

1038
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: view event. And I'm sure they had to shuffle some

1039
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: things around, but I'm saying the fact that they got

1040
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: to move it out of Mexico is neither here nor

1041
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: there necessarily, But the fact they got to downgrade it

1042
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: from a pay per view to a fight Night card

1043
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: gives them the flexibility they need to do this event correctly.

1044
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: It took and Arena not being ready that journalists from

1045
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: Mexico had told the UFC, including David Shaw, the head

1046
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: of international there, that comes out to speak in Dana spot.

1047
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: But even though this is the best choice for them.

1048
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: Their hand was forced in a lot of ways, right.

1049
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they they didn't select it this way.

1050
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: They obviously selected it to go to Mexico, and they

1051
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: were warned that this was going to be a problem.

1052
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: We should play this so like Rodrigo del Compo, you

1053
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: can put the tweet up first. And I'm saying it

1054
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: like a gringo. But you know, uh, there's Rodrigo. He

1055
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: asked a question. We'll listen to it just a second.

1056
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: In March, he tried to tell them that the that

1057
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: the event in Guadalajara. I asked about assurances for their

1058
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: date because of delays. Remember we heard about the venue

1059
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: was told they didn't appreciate that line of questioning. All right, now,

1060
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: let's go back to that day April twenty first, when

1061
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: he asked David Shaw about it, and this is how

1062
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: it went.

1063
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 8: Questions, Hi, David, coming from kind of sports here, obviously

1064
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 8: a great announcement that this in this room last year,

1065
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 8: said that he was looking forward to the arena being

1066
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 8: finished and going to the arena. Yet the arena presents

1067
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 8: a one month delayed today. There are a lot of

1068
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 8: concerts book between February and March and April. What are

1069
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 8: the assurances that the promoter in the internet have given

1070
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 8: you for your day to be reserved for the pay

1071
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 8: per view.

1072
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 9: I mean, we've been in constant contact with them enough

1073
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 9: so to be able to announce tonight. If we weren't confident,

1074
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 9: we wouldn't announcing.

1075
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 8: The fight perfect your broadcasting partner now in Mexico. Fox

1076
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 8: Sports Mexico has been going through a downfall in the

1077
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 8: last few months.

1078
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: They're being suited in the US by Conca CAFF.

1079
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 8: They've lost Premier League FA Cup, they had an issue

1080
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 8: with the NFL do the lack of payment. It's been

1081
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 8: kind of difficult to've been almost sold to the Mordech

1082
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 8: family again. What is your current relationship with Fox Sports

1083
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 8: Mexico strong?

1084
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 9: If you saw front Row tonight, behind the Octagon data

1085
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 9: section front Row and data section, we had a number

1086
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 9: of executives from Fox Sports Mexico. The relationship that we've

1087
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 9: had with them has been nothing but excellent. They've been

1088
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 9: They've been firm supporters of the UFC for very long time.

1089
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 9: They invest heavily in content. They you know, build profiles

1090
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 9: of our athletes, They help promote our events.

1091
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: They've been great, great partners for us.

1092
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 9: You know, have read a number of things in the

1093
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 9: newspapers about the status of their business here in Mexico,

1094
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 9: and they've given us assurances that you know, we go

1095
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 9: through the end of year with them and there'll be

1096
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 9: no disruption to the UFC in Fox Sports and Mexico

1097
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 9: partnership through twenty twenty five, and you know, just want.

1098
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting, I mean, it's weird here, Luke. They may

1099
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 4: have dodged a bullet, but their hand got forced. We

1100
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: still I mean, people get upset that we don't always

1101
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 4: have like all the hard details on here. UFC doesn't

1102
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: speak publicly on stuff. They've gone quiet for a while

1103
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 4: on a lot of this big ticket information. It felt

1104
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: like this was something that could have been seen coming.

1105
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: But maybe, like you mentioned, Luke, taking it off pay

1106
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: per view, not forcing a matchup that isn't necessary. It

1107
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: will be a blessing in disguise. But this does coincide

1108
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 4: with a few things here. Lance Pugmyer of Boxing Scene

1109
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: did put out a story on Saturday that basically said, look,

1110
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 4: we're all waiting for news on whether Canelo Crawford is

1111
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: still going to be a Turkey Ala CHK slash TKO

1112
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 4: Global Dana White Production. But according to Lance's reporting, this

1113
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: development does open up back the idea that the two

1114
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 4: could work together. Still on that same date, September thirteenth,

1115
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, two put on Canelo versus Crawford. What

1116
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: do you make of this? Because you did have Canelo

1117
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: Alvas coming out in Spanish at a press conference in

1118
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: the last week saying he was the one who told

1119
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 4: Turkey we can't do this on Friday. My fans are

1120
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: coming in from Mexico. They need to be able to

1121
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 4: come in on Saturday to see it. Also, Canelo said

1122
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: in that same interview that he told Turkey he's not

1123
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 4: fighting anymore in Saudi Arabia. It has to be in

1124
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 4: the US. Will we now see Dana in your eyes

1125
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: in Turkey partner together? Is it's still too unknown.

1126
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: At this Yeah, that one's still too unknown. I don't

1127
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: exactly understand how they can get that one back together.

1128
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, I guess if it's a fight

1129
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: night and not a pay per view, there's less pressure

1130
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: on Dana to be there, is the idea, And also

1131
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: you're not trying to grow the Mexican market as much

1132
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: if you pull out from there. I mean, I'm sure

1133
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: there still are more broadly, but I'm saying on that night,

1134
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: they're not. They're putting it back in San Antonio, So

1135
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: you know, I guess it relieves Dana of having to

1136
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: even though they're on the same day. Does he have

1137
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: to prioritize the UFC event at all times if it's

1138
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: a fight night This is what I mean about getting

1139
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: a if it's a pay per view, even then he

1140
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: could still prioritize Canelo Crawford over it, but it makes

1141
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: it a little bit harder, especially if you get your

1142
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: pound for pound or you know, one of the top

1143
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: pound for pound guys in the sport competing on it.

1144
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: But if it's a fight night card and none of

1145
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: those concerns are in play, then who gives it? Damn

1146
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: just do whatever you want. It certainly frees it up

1147
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: in that sense.

1148
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 4: I think you've got to say here that the choice

1149
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 4: of changing from pay per view to fight night feels

1150
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: aggressively like it's opening up the door to go ahead

1151
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 4: to head. Dana said he wouldn't go head to head

1152
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 4: with a pay per view. This feels like if they're

1153
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 4: throwing a bone back to maybe like and I don't

1154
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: know if it'll end up on Netflix. I don't know

1155
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 4: if Kennella Crawford will ever be as big as they

1156
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 4: say it will be, because right now it's only a

1157
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 4: few months away and there's no date, no network, no sight,

1158
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 4: and really not a lot of buzz going on to it.

1159
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: But this does feel like that opens the door and

1160
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 4: maybe this TKO boxing thing is still alive.

1161
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: So yeah. I mean, people wanted to make the big

1162
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: deal to be that it went from Mexico to Texas.

1163
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: That's not the big deal. The big deal is that

1164
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: it got downgraded from pay per view to fight Night.

1165
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: That opens up a range of new possibilities that they

1166
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: just were kind of locked into before.

1167
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: Well, dude, this is a weird year, man, really really.

1168
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: Soup dude, this is the strangest fucking time in combat

1169
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: sports that I've maybe ever seen, and I mean that

1170
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: very sincerely.

1171
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: I mean I've seen some really bad years where it's

1172
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: just like, you know, the money wasn't coming in for combat. Yeah,

1173
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 4: there's some big fights, but it's just the momentum is down.

1174
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 4: This is much deeper because obviously look at the cross

1175
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 4: pollination between Turkey kind of controlling by but we've got

1176
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 4: questions whether he'll you know, pair with TKO and everything

1177
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: going on. The apathy in general for everything is as

1178
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 4: low as possible. Boxing isn't going to enter it. Kind

1179
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: of a dark month here in June. I hope we

1180
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: pull out of this.

1181
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well, don't worry BC. I'm told that monopolization

1182
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: only leads to good things.

1183
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: So dude, do you know though that, like, just real

1184
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: quick on this Okay, the ww let our truth go

1185
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: Yesterday a long time performer who yes is fifty five

1186
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: years old, but is like this long term fan friendly

1187
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: comedic character, locker room giant, and this is the I

1188
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 4: think that's the bridge too far. The amount of backlash

1189
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 4: I'm seeing now on social media against TKO for specifically

1190
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 4: how much their you know, value extraction model removes the

1191
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 4: soul from all the things we love. Dude, WWE fans

1192
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: are unhappy and not backing down. Look, why are we

1193
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: not getting that same response from him make fans? I

1194
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: don't know, It's wild. It's as if they're like, yeah,

1195
00:57:59,600 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 4: this is.

1196
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: Dude. I see people like, you know, every time there's

1197
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: one of these cards, it's like super irrelevant, and people like,

1198
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: who's gonna watch this card? And I'll read the comments

1199
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: and half the comments are you know, it sucks. But

1200
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: I've got nothing else going on in my life and

1201
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: I don't watch TV or movies or you know, I

1202
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: guess interact with friends, and therefore like this is the

1203
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: only thing I told you, Like, there's a certain kind

1204
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: of person that's become. It's probably sports wide actually, to

1205
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: be honest with you, but certainly you can see in

1206
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: the combat sports that have this passive relationship of baby

1207
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: bird being fed constantly. You know, it's a dopamine hit.

1208
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: Like on social media, you're just constantly looking for new tweets,

1209
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: constantly looking for new posts on ig so you can

1210
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: get this constant stimulation rather than like having a life,

1211
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's actually, honestly, it's kind

1212
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: of sad, it is.

1213
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: And do you know how many people are like BC,

1214
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: you're way too harsh on Saudi and TKO. Why don't

1215
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 4: you want them in boxing? They're gonna make huge fights.

1216
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: The temperature of what's going on in MMA and pro

1217
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: wrestling right now, just check it.

1218
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's great for boxing that the biggest

1219
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: fight in the last several months has been Caleb Plant

1220
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: Armando Racendi's I'm sure that that's a great thing for boxing, more.

1221
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: Like Race Anddy's nuts. Luke. I couldn't fit that into

1222
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 4: the broadcast on Saturday.

1223
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: I see, there was a couple of ones you had.

1224
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 4: I had an off night. I had an off night.

1225
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, you called. First of all, you called

1226
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: Cornflake a fucking Connecticut legend, which I was like, get

1227
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: the fuck out.

1228
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 4: I called Willie Pep a Connecticut legend. Cornflakes from New Jersey,

1229
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: that's right.

1230
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: Because Marrow then called you a Connecticut legend. I was like, Marrow,

1231
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: you're really reaching here, motherfucker. You had another one during

1232
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: that Cornflake fight. I forget what it was, and I

1233
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: was like, wow, dude, he almost got fired for that one.

1234
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: No, there was no almost got firing. There were like

1235
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 4: two moments where I attempted to bring in a zinger

1236
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: at the wrong time as there were developments in the fight.

1237
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 4: So it made me look like an asshole, and I

1238
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: deserve it. Look I deserve it.

1239
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but I'll go back and

1240
00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: find it. But you had another one. I was like,

1241
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: he's really reaching don't.

1242
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: I don't think it was really that.

1243
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: But no, who did you say? You said race? And

1244
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: D's looked like Mario Lopez. I was like, that's quasi racist.

1245
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: But that's all right?

1246
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: How was that quasi racist? When Mario Lopez then tweeted

1247
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: out uh from the broadcast of me, saying that as

1248
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 4: he was celebrating, I know he look I.

1249
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: Get it to someone like you. They all look alike.

1250
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 5: I understand.

1251
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1252
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this guy, I mean, you know, why

1253
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: don't I just come back with this Luke.

1254
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I'm just teasing. I'm just teasing Joe.

1255
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: All right, Hey, look, let's go to topic number four,

1256
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 4: which was the surprising big developments in Saturday's PBC on

1257
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 4: Prime Video boxing card, of which yes, your boy BC

1258
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 4: was on the call, and in that main event. We

1259
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 4: thought this card was a set up to take us

1260
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 4: to a Caleb Plant versus Jermal Charlow grudge match, and

1261
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 4: by the way, we still could be on the road

1262
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 4: to that despite the results. But Caleb Plant, despite being

1263
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 4: a heavy betting favorite, came up empty against an Armando

1264
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 4: Raycendes who was determined moving up in wait and really

1265
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 4: never said die now. Luke Prisindy's was known for his

1266
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: pressure fighting. He came in this time though a very

1267
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 4: relaxed demeanor. He actually boxed, increased the pressure over time,

1268
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: and unfortunately for Caleb Plant the one big negative in

1269
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 4: his game, the fact that he does fade late against

1270
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 4: pressure fighters, really came into play here. It goes down

1271
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: in the end as a split decision win for race Endes,

1272
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: even though eight rounds to four seems to be the

1273
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: general opinion of most, including the scorecard that I have

1274
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 4: as well. How bad of a loss in your eyes

1275
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: is this for Plant? And at age thirty three, is

1276
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: it enough to question whether not only his best days

1277
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 4: are behind him? But you know, with the second child

1278
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: on the way, there's some whispers of people saying, maybe

1279
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 4: he should be maybe he should be done, Maybe this

1280
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 4: should be the beginning of the end. Do we overreact

1281
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 4: for a guy who's only fault once a year in

1282
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: recent years? How did you respond to Saturday Night?

1283
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1284
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 8: I mean.

1285
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: This was a weird one. First of all, the fight

1286
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 2: itself was actually pretty good, very good.

1287
01:01:59,760 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1288
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant is you know, usually not in bad fights,

1289
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: like their fun fights. One way or the other typically

1290
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: and actually this might have been the most enjoyable fight

1291
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: all weekend MMA or boxing, depending on your perspective. But

1292
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, it certainly was the co main event to

1293
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: me on that card was but we'll talk about that

1294
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: in a second. But I have mixed feelings BC, and

1295
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: I wonder if you do too. On the one hand,

1296
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: when I went back, cause I didn't see the fight live,

1297
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: and I had seen all the reactions, so I was like,

1298
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: all right, let me go watch. I watched it last

1299
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: night on the couch and I'm looking at Plant through

1300
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: the first four rounds and I'm like, how did he

1301
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: lose this fight? And it's like, oh, right, Well, after

1302
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: the first four rounds, everything basically changes. But even late

1303
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: into the fight, BC, he didn't look slow. He didn't

1304
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: look like he was laboring with his movement, you know

1305
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: what I mean. He still had some snap to him,

1306
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: but he just seemed like his skills declined. And maybe

1307
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: that's because they had a bad camp, maybe because it

1308
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: was a short camp, maybe they didn't really plan properly

1309
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: for what rays and D's we could offer them. But

1310
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: like a couple of things, BC, he didn't Caleb Plant

1311
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: until like, you know, the latter third of the fight,

1312
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 2: couldn't keep his hands up and kept getting tagged with

1313
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: right hands from Race Anddz as a consequence. And I'm like,

1314
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: I know he does the load thing because he likes

1315
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: to go load to high with the jab, and he's

1316
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: got that kind of shoulder roll half Philly shell style,

1317
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: but it wasn't working against a guy with that kind

1318
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: of forward pressure. That was the first thing I noticed, also, BC,

1319
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: and I went back and I looked at this. I

1320
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 2: don't think he threw anything more than a three punch

1321
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 2: combo the entire fight. Great double jab, right hand, jab,

1322
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: cross hook, you know, you name it. He was never

1323
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: putting four and potentially five punches together. And in certain fights,

1324
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: maybe against it was Kateegy, maybe against early in the

1325
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: fight against Benavidez, you saw him putting a little bit

1326
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: more into it, and in this one he just seemed

1327
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: out of ideas. So there's that, and then there's the

1328
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: last part BC, which is, I don't know. I'm not

1329
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: a Race and DZ historian. He looks like a tough guy.

1330
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: Twenty six clearly was ready for this opportunity, but in

1331
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: looking at with some of his other fights, he did

1332
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: not look to me like a home run hitter of

1333
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: a puncher, and yet Plant was just getting shook up

1334
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: by it. So it seemed to me that his skills

1335
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: just weren't where they needed to be for this fight.

1336
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, I don't know what happened to his

1337
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: punch resistance, and the combination of the two just made

1338
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: for a weird result.

1339
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: It totally did. And Planet is thirty two, not thirty three,

1340
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 4: as I mentioned, But that doesn't necessarily change what we're

1341
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 4: talking about right here. The fact that now in his

1342
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 4: last five fights he's two wins and three defeats understandable

1343
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 4: when you're talking about Canelo Alvarez and David Benavetez. But

1344
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 4: Rac and D's wasn't known for that. His biggest work

1345
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 4: he had done was that one sixty, even though he

1346
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 4: turned pro at light heavyweight and has fought as high

1347
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 4: as one hundred and eighty three pounds in the past.

1348
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 4: But I think the difference was he came in to

1349
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 4: win the biggest fight of his career, which he ended

1350
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 4: up pulling off. He brought an insanely large crowd from

1351
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: his hometown in Niarete, Mexico, with him. They completely dominated

1352
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 4: the way in on Friday at the Mandalay Bay. They

1353
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 4: made their presence known on Saturday, best shape of his career.

1354
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 4: But I think you got to give a lot of

1355
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 4: credit to trainer Manny Robliss, who was of course world class,

1356
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 4: for helping Rac and D's not just be that aggressive

1357
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: guy who throws twenty punches more per round than the

1358
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 4: super middleweight average. He was patient, He knew. They had

1359
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 4: to know that if you can get Plant into the

1360
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 4: later rounds, that a lot of the constant movement Plant

1361
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: does the circling away. I mean, he uses a lot

1362
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 4: of effort and a lot of his movements, and I

1363
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 4: do think it plays into stamina, dump down the stretch

1364
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: and fights that he's not controlling and dominating. We saw

1365
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 4: that in the losses to Canelo and Benavidez. We saw

1366
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 4: that in his breakthrough title win in twenty nineteen against Uskatagi,

1367
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: where he really had to bite down in the final

1368
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 4: rounds at thirty two. I don't think this is enough

1369
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 4: to say it's over. And I don't think it's enough

1370
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 4: to say Rac and D's only look that great because

1371
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 4: because Plan is no longer good. But to some degree,

1372
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 4: both things were true and they gave us this result.

1373
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 4: You do have a lot of people saying, as I

1374
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, that Plant fought once in twenty twenty four,

1375
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 4: once in twenty twenty three, once in twenty twenty two,

1376
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 4: hasn't fought twice in a year since twenty twenty one.

1377
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 4: So is it that lack of consistency building momentum? Was

1378
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 4: he just cold? Was he on a single night? Was

1379
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: he overlooking Rayce and D's because of all the talk

1380
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: for this big charlot fight. Either way, it was eye opening,

1381
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 4: it was alarming. Now we can see the scorecards here.

1382
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 4: David Sutherland is certainly other under fire. The third judge

1383
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: who had at one fifteen, one thirteen.

1384
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: That's insane that he gave the last three rounds to

1385
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant.

1386
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 4: Well, that's insane, dominated largely down the stretch. So you know,

1387
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: Caleb Plant really entered the championship rounds where he's known

1388
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 4: for fading in the worst spot down on the cards

1389
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 4: on most people's eyes, against Race and D's, and he

1390
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 4: wasn't able to rally. I think you're right on a

1391
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 4: few things. You mentioned one punch at a time not

1392
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 4: gonna work. You know, he's not known as a big puncher,

1393
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 4: although under Breadman Edwards he's been sitting down on his

1394
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 4: shots more. He turned to an inside style against McCombe

1395
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 4: and knocked him out. But I think Raycindes was not

1396
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: there to be hit, and I think the fact that

1397
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 4: Plant threw every single punch at a time was because

1398
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: Rayce and Des was countering with combinations, and I think

1399
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 4: Plant realized that he couldn't stay in there against that power.

1400
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 4: But look, if you really want a detailed thing on

1401
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 4: what might have happened, there's an absolutely incredible interview with

1402
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 4: Stephen Bredman Edwards, the trainer of Caleb Plant. But known

1403
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 4: really more right if you read his boxing scene weekly

1404
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 4: call him as just a smart mind in this game.

1405
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: He gave one of the most candid interviews I've ever

1406
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 4: seen to a group of reporters in which he said

1407
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: a few things, not just moving forward. Does he wish

1408
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 4: if he stays with Caleb, that he could take Caleb

1409
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: from the beginning of the camp and have full control.

1410
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's speaking to the idea that

1411
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 4: Caleb is co trained by his father Ritchie, and Caleb

1412
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 4: doesn't spend full time in training Cab with bread right,

1413
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 4: they visit each other, but his dad also trains him.

1414
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 4: Maybe there's part of bread Man that isn't getting the

1415
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 4: message all the way through that he wants. But Luke

1416
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 4: Bredman identified two things that were concerning. He said, one

1417
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 4: Caleb's skin and reactions to punches from Race and D's

1418
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 4: that didn't actually appear to be that hard. Was concerning

1419
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 4: to it that Plant wasn't necessarily showing the durability in

1420
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 4: the in the positive response in those moments. And then

1421
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 4: he also mentioned about the lack of output overall. We

1422
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 4: do have sound from Caleb Plan in which he, you know,

1423
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 4: made it seem like it's kind of just one off night.

1424
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 4: He thought he had an argument to win. Let's listen

1425
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 4: to Kayleb Plant.

1426
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: His great fight tonight. Close fight felt like it could

1427
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: have went either way.

1428
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 13: But you know it's lived by the sword, die by

1429
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 13: the sword, and the judge's seen how they've seen it.

1430
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 13: And you know, I'm not the type to make any excuses.

1431
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 13: I left no stone unturned this camp, put it, put

1432
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 13: it all in, paid a lot of money for camp,

1433
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 13: did a lot of work, a lot of running, and

1434
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 13: so you know, obviously I'm disappointed, but wanted to make

1435
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 13: sure I come out here, and you know, I said,

1436
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 13: piece came and see you guys, and you know I

1437
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 13: still got you know, I still get a lot of

1438
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 13: love from the fans, and you know, I think I've

1439
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 13: earned the respect over the years, and obviously right now,

1440
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 13: I'm just disappointed.

1441
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: So in life, I'm a winner.

1442
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 13: You know, if you look at where I started, what

1443
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 13: I've been through, and what I've had to accomplish to

1444
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 13: get here, It's taken a lot, and I feel like

1445
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 13: if anybody is the man for the job, it's me. So,

1446
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 13: like I said, I'll regroup on my team. We'll get

1447
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 13: right back to work. And I'm not easily discouraged.

1448
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: You know, two boxing's biggest stars.

1449
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 4: Look, we know how mentally tough he is with his

1450
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: own trainer, talking about maybe the one fight a year thing.

1451
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 4: Maybe you know, he gets active that this could turn around.

1452
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna lean more towards one off night. Maybe not

1453
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 4: the best training camp, maybe partially overlooking the opponent. Maybe

1454
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 4: the opponent performed better than we expected. But I'm not

1455
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 4: gonna lie. From what I'm reading on the internet, which

1456
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 4: is a lot of people from fans to connected insiders,

1457
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 4: basically saying they kind of feel like, not only is

1458
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 4: the best of Plant behind him, but without being a

1459
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 4: power puncher for a style that's heavy on movement but

1460
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 4: staying in the pocket a lot, they don't see a

1461
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 4: sustainable future for him. I'm not gonna go that far

1462
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 4: after hearing him say, look, I don't discourage easily. I'll

1463
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 4: be back. Do you think fighting two three times a

1464
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 4: year could get him back into the elite shape we

1465
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 4: expect there?

1466
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got to bring a better skill set again.

1467
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: I I I didn't. I saw just better elusiveness against

1468
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 2: Canelo and Alan. Granted that was four years ago, it's

1469
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 2: been some wear and tear on the the tread.

1470
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 4: He took a beating against straight up took a beating.

1471
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he looked good for the first six rounds,

1472
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: but the last six were terrible. I mean it was.

1473
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that he survived was remarkable. And dude,

1474
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: in the fifth round here he got tuned up by

1475
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: race ends. I mean that was I was amazed he

1476
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: didn't go down from that to be perfect consot. I

1477
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: haven't seen him wabble that bad. Maybe since he fought

1478
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: he had been a betez for being honest. So you know,

1479
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: to me, it's like there's a lot of things you

1480
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: need to get tightened up again. The good news is

1481
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: BC he did not physically look shop worn in the

1482
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: sense of how well he could move and the speed

1483
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: at which he could move. That all looked pretty good.

1484
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: He still had some zip and pop in his legs,

1485
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: and that's what you want. But he didn't wear the

1486
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: punch as well, and he did not have many either

1487
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: offensive or even defensive answers. And that's not going to

1488
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: be enough against even a diminished Charlo or whoever else

1489
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: in the division they can give him a fight against.

1490
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see the clowning here from Edgar Berlanga, who's

1491
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 4: been in a constant feud with Plant, but they've been

1492
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 4: unable to sign a fight against each other. Berlanga putting

1493
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 4: out the Caleb Plant pack of buds there and weed. Luke,

1494
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 4: that'll I guess if you smoke that, you'll get well.

1495
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 4: You won't get put to sleep. Plant didn't get put

1496
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 4: to sleep. He was competitive in a loss, but it

1497
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 4: certainly was a step back. Now, Luke, Jamal Charlie, I

1498
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 4: didn't think.

1499
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: I didn't think this fight was that competitive. I did

1500
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: not think it could go either way. I think four

1501
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: rounds is generous.

1502
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 4: Okay, there's a difference when I say competitive between competitive

1503
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 4: on the scorecards means in my eyes, it's that the

1504
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 4: judges were giving rounds either way. But it can be

1505
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 4: a twelve to nothing fight that's competitive within each round.

1506
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying. I thought it was good.

1507
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 4: The rounds were competitive, but he was losing them.

1508
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: I never thought that Plant was getting abused, but I

1509
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: did not think that he was in it by round

1510
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: nine or ten. I can assure you that well.

1511
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: In that co main event, Jamal Charlo handled his business obviously,

1512
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 4: though against a lower tier opponent in Thomas Cornflake Lamana,

1513
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 4: who sins being one punch ko by Arislandi. Laara did

1514
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 4: win nine straight fights they were on the regional circuit. Luke,

1515
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 4: this fight got lambasted coming in.

1516
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should have. This fight was stupid.

1517
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took a lot of hits afterwards, with Lamana

1518
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 4: just not being remotely on Plants level. I'm sorry on

1519
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 4: Charlo's level. But with that said, Luke, before we tie

1520
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 4: this into the future for a Plant Charlo matchup, were

1521
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 4: you impressed by what we did see? From the thirty

1522
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 4: five year old Charlo, from the poise, the heavy jab

1523
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 4: that he's known for, and just in general, Look, it's

1524
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 4: not prime Jamal Charlo, but is this is still a

1525
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 4: title contending Jamal Charlo in a new weight division at

1526
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 4: one sixty eight?

1527
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: In your eyes, I don't think there's any way to

1528
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: really know. I mean, he had a little bit of

1529
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: loose change on him. He did not look to be

1530
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: in the terrible shape. No, by any stretch. No, he

1531
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 2: did not look to be in terrible shape, but not

1532
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: traditionally good shape. He's traditionally looking traditionally looks a little

1533
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 2: bit leaner. He had a little bit of loose change

1534
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: on him. I'd say that first and foremost. Second of all,

1535
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: it's just really hard to know against an opponent of

1536
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 2: this quality. I mean, dude, corn Flake seems like a

1537
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: nice guy. But what the fuck was that fight? Like

1538
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 2: he had no he got dropped in the third and

1539
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: the fourth and the fifth, yeah, you know what I mean,

1540
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: And like they were like not all. I mean, what

1541
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: was the one. I think it was the one in

1542
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 2: the fourth or the fifth. It wasn't the first one.

1543
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 2: He literally was right on the ropes. He gets the shot,

1544
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 2: he gets his hand up, the punch hits the glove.

1545
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: It split it a little bit, but it mostly landed

1546
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: on the glove and it's still knocked him down. And

1547
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, what the fuck are we doing here?

1548
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, his legs were gone at that point.

1549
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean it was I mean, it's like, it's like,

1550
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: did Charlo And by the way, Charlo could have got

1551
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: him out of there much earlier, and I think wanted

1552
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: to get some rounds, which fine, but you're asking me

1553
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: to make like a declaration about what we can learn

1554
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 2: from there. It was nice to see him put together

1555
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: the pieces of something back together again, you know. But

1556
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say beyond that. I just

1557
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: it's hard to put any of this into context.

1558
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 4: Well, I'll give him credit. Look getting back after the hell.

1559
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 4: He's been through mental health issues. He's talked to openly

1560
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 4: about bipolar disorder in the past. He had a bad divorce,

1561
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 4: he had substance abuse issues. I mean, he went through

1562
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 4: hell and back mentally and physically. So to be back,

1563
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 4: that's great. To see the smile on his face afterwards,

1564
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 4: to see him speak a positive message about mental health

1565
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 4: and especially in the African American community. Alan Dawson, our friend,

1566
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 4: had a great interview with Charlo coming in about how

1567
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 4: you know there's a stigma against mental health, but specifically

1568
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 4: in that community. So to see Jamal speak out on

1569
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 4: that all good stuff. And I think a lot of

1570
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 4: people came away going, look, he still got it. He's

1571
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 4: still got something here. He's a fun fight for a

1572
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 4: lot of super middleweight moving forward, whether you're talking about

1573
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 4: Berlanga Mongie although he's got issues here, or maybe Caleb Plant. Now,

1574
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 4: according to Charlo, he did say that Plant dropped the ball.

1575
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 4: He also said, hey, even with that loss, I got

1576
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 4: to get my look back. I still want that fight.

1577
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: Let's hear from Jamal Charlow.

1578
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 2: This camp was amazing.

1579
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 14: I probably had too much fun this camp. But it's

1580
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 14: cool though because you know, uh, that's that's what it's

1581
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 14: at about, you know, having fun, giving my all working

1582
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 14: and you know, just staying focused. You know, talk to

1583
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 14: my mom every day, talk to my my brother, my peers,

1584
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 14: my friends, CC, hit me up, d D eat me

1585
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 14: up every day. Everybody. That's just like being like really

1586
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 14: holding me down. Like you know, I just like I

1587
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 14: want to say if to my fans and my friends

1588
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 14: and people out there. If you ever going through something like,

1589
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 14: the worst thing to do is hold it. And it

1590
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 14: don't matter who it is. Uh, just talk to someone

1591
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 14: and that's the best thing you can do and and

1592
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 14: try to move forward. Just pray to God that you know,

1593
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 14: like he could change the view on things in life.

1594
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 14: And that's kind of what I've been doing. And I've

1595
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 14: been battling with it. I know, I just got a

1596
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 14: VIC three and I got a VIC three maybe a

1597
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 14: year ago, and and I've kind of been inactive. But

1598
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 14: my goal is to get more active.

1599
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: But you know, I was.

1600
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 14: You know, I'm still bading some things now, you know,

1601
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 14: but I'm not. It's not affected me not to fight.

1602
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 14: As you can see, I went in there and still prevailed.

1603
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 14: And just want to tell y'all, thank y'all for following me.

1604
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 14: Thank y'all for being there with me each and every

1605
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 14: step of the way. You know, it's a journey and

1606
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 14: I'm still working towards getting making myself better. I'm not perfect,

1607
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 14: but my record is boxing's biggest stuff.

1608
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 4: Luke, what do you make of what he said that,

1609
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 4: while yes we can lambast the idea of marination boxing,

1610
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 4: we've done it for years. Going back to your York

1611
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 4: Scambo and one my Lopez falling apart when they each

1612
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 4: took tune up fights ahead of an expected clash. You

1613
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 4: can talk about what just happened in Times Square with

1614
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 4: Haini and Garcia. This was I think open to criticism

1615
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 4: whether Plant in Charlo should have just been fighting on

1616
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 4: Saturday Night. I think you can offer that criticism. Does

1617
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 4: it kill the matchup? Though, considering where they are in

1618
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 4: their age and considering that there is a real grudge

1619
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 4: between them, with you know, Charlo pulling on the beard

1620
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 4: of Plant back in twenty twenty three and then having

1621
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 4: that fight backstage at the Spence Crawford Way, and I.

1622
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: Still think that they could make that fight. I even

1623
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: still think you could make Plant Mungia or sorry when

1624
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: I say mongia a plant to Berloga. I think you

1625
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: could do either of them. Promotionally, I don't feel like

1626
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: he sank a lot of what there was there, because

1627
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 2: you know, the reason why those fights are interesting are

1628
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: can only be resolved by making the one fight the other,

1629
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 2: right like there's not there's no real clear substitute that's

1630
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: just as good. I mean, there's a few different permutations

1631
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: of fights that are available, but there's a certain connectivity

1632
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: between X and Y, and so you have to kind

1633
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: of see what's up with that. None of that really

1634
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: got super displaced. But to me it's like, you know,

1635
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't know who would have been the favorite Plant

1636
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: or Charlo before the weekend BC, but now it's like,

1637
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, Charlo's a big puncher, and

1638
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 2: to your point, he jab was heavy and against a

1639
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: guy like Plant, if he can't wear the shots of

1640
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: race Endys, you definitely can't wear the punches of Charlo.

1641
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 2: Like it makes me wonder how competitive it is, not

1642
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: so much like do I want to see it? Yeah, sure,

1643
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: I would still definitely see it, but my view of

1644
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: what it actually would mean has changed fairly significantly with

1645
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 2: just one weekend of fights.

1646
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, it's tough to speak on Charlo

1647
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 4: because we only have this one fight in the last

1648
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 4: eighteen months and it wasn't against a top tier contender.

1649
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 4: But considering that he lost out on super fights with

1650
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 4: Canelo twice in the past four years, one where he

1651
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: wasn't ready, a second time where Canelo just chose a

1652
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 4: different opponent. If you look in your crystal Ball. And

1653
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 4: we don't know if Canelo's gonna lose this the undisputed

1654
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 4: championship to Crawford or what's gonna happen. But Canelo this

1655
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 4: week did say he wants to fight until he's thirty seven.

1656
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 4: Do you think Jamal Charlo ends up getting the Canelo fight? Oh, Jesus,

1657
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 4: does play into the type of opponent's Canelo once.

1658
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: Let's be fair, right, Golly, I hadn't even thought about it,

1659
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: probably because I hate the idea.

1660
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 4: Then the answer is yes, probably, I mean I wouldn't

1661
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: hate it if he puts together a couple of wins

1662
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 4: and looks the part.

1663
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: And hopefully if he looks the part, all right.

1664
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: Jamel Charlo was also in the ring celebrating with his brother,

1665
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 4: and I interviewed him quickly on the postfight broadcast. Look,

1666
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 4: I'm happy to say this. The Charlo brothers have been

1667
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 4: either each other's best friends and biggest motivators or the

1668
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 4: biggest enemy between the two of them. Over the years,

1669
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 4: We've seen them have call each other out, and I

1670
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 4: mean we've seen some really you know, tough situations where

1671
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 4: they didn't talk to each other for a long time.

1672
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 4: Jermal said that Jermel is the reason why he's boxing again,

1673
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 4: that his brother was there for him day after day

1674
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 4: to help him. And I don't know if you saw

1675
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 4: Lance Pugmyer's reporting over the weekend on Twitter, Golden Boy

1676
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 4: and PBC, according to Lance, are talking about well potentially

1677
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 4: a comebacking Jermel Charlow at one fifty four against Virgil

1678
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 4: Ortiz Junior. Are you in or out?

1679
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm in? Yeah, I'm in. Oh yeah, it's a fun

1680
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: fight that sounds like a really fun fight and Ortiz

1681
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: looked really good against Madromov, so yeah.

1682
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 4: Indeed, also the close here Luke. PBC will be back

1683
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 4: July nineteenth. As they officially announced their pay per view

1684
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 4: card on Prime Video, I was able to interview both

1685
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 4: Fondora and Zoo, who are going to rematch in the

1686
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 4: co main event, Manny Pacio and Mario Barrios in the

1687
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 4: main event, and to round out that pay per view,

1688
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 4: as was teased, we're going to get Brandon Figuero against

1689
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 4: Joey Gonzalez, which should be a brawl, and then a

1690
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 4: rematch of pit Bull Cruise in on hell Fieriro from

1691
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 4: earlier this year. All things considered, even with Pachio at

1692
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 4: forty six, Luke, and with me being a PBC homer,

1693
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 4: I gotta say I'm excited for this card and it

1694
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 4: should be really good and I hope that it is

1695
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 4: continued momentum. Are you giving Manny any chance at this point?

1696
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you never know with the magic

1697
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: of pharmaceuticals, But in general, I don't give a shit

1698
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: about that fight. The rest of the cars. We said

1699
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,559
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Speaker 4: Lucas time for topic number five, which is exactly what

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Speaker 4: But for today, let's look at some of the biggest

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Speaker 4: needs a big weekend, all right, let's do it. So, Luke,

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Speaker 4: I want you to name one fight, one fighter, one

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Speaker 4: situation on this card that has you the most intrigued

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Speaker 4: heading in to the first of two pay per view

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Speaker 4: events we can expect as UFC fans in June. What

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01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: is that one storyline that you're focused on.

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Speaker 2: The reformation of Sean O'Malley. So one of the reasons

1773
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: why people might be upset about this fight to a

1774
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 2: degree is not that people don't think Morob is good,

1775
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: Hello he's the champion, or even though O'Malley is good,

1776
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: hello he's the former champion, but that it happened within

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01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: ten months, which is not typically a long amount of time. Typically,

1778
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Speaker 2: if we're a rematch to be interesting in terms of

1779
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 2: some of the differences you could get with a second matchup,

1780
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: a couple of years or more need to go by

1781
01:24:58,400 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: before you get a real big difference. But I would

1782
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 2: actually say something interesting is kind of happening here. Sean

1783
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: O'Malley may be only having a ten month difference, but

1784
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: he appears to be doing any number of major changes

1785
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: to the way in which he's operating, both in terms

1786
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: of training, physical health as well as like personal health

1787
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: in a different way, not so much ailment, but centering

1788
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: his life, so that I think you actually are going

1789
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: to get something of a different Sean O'Malley. Now, I'm

1790
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 2: not suggesting to you that's a reason why he may win.

1791
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: You still have to kind of match up the x's

1792
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: and o's as best we understand them. But I guess

1793
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: the point I'm trying to make here is I actually

1794
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: do think he's going to come into this with some

1795
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: different ideas about how to fight, with some different ways

1796
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 2: in which he prepped, and a different centeredness about self.

1797
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: And the reason why that's important, B see is twofold

1798
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 2: one you actually give him, he's giving himself. Like remember

1799
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: he had a hip injury apparently, and he wasn't able

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01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: to train the right way, and he he I know,

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01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: we have some sound to this effect. He kind of

1802
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: made the enemy in a certain way. He's changing enough

1803
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 2: things where you do have to reconsider his chances in

1804
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: a second fight. But here's the interesting part BC. Either

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01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 2: those changes are going to lift him to a new

1806
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 2: sense of success, right he actually this will work, or

1807
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 2: he's going to be doing all of these things and

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01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: the results won't be there. And what I've often seen

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01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: in my career covering fighters who have done this kind

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Speaker 2: of thing where they've actually committed their life to change

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Speaker 2: and then the subsequent result doesn't yield that for them.

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01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: They end up going through a bit of another journey

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01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,839
Speaker 2: as a consequence, because what's happening is they're telling themselves

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Speaker 2: I'm the man. I couldn't show that I was the

1815
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Speaker 2: man that night, but with these changes, this can still

1816
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: help me to believe internally how much that I am

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01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: the man. Something that young men and young women may

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Speaker 2: not appreciate is you will tell yourself something about who

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01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: you are for very long period of time, especially if

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01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: you're driven to go do things, and then eventually life

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01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 2: may reward it, life may not, and if it doesn't,

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01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 2: you then have to reconcile with how many things you

1823
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: have told yourself over the years that actually were not true.

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01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: And when that's not true, who are you? And so

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01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 2: it could lead to him going up to forty five BC.

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01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: It could lead to him maybe actually because of the

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01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: positive health changes. On a personal level, it won't matter,

1828
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 2: like he'll actually still be quite happy about who he's

1829
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: become through that journey. But this is what I want

1830
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 2: to say. When you go all in on these kinds

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01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: of changes, a it gives you the best chance at

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01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: victory in a rematch. But the problem is if those

1833
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 2: don't work, you have serious questions to answer for what

1834
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 2: you actually told yourself and how it's impossible to believe

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01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: it going forward, and that could yield a bunch of

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Speaker 2: different changes as a consequence, an interesting way in which

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01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: this main event could yield a variety of outcomes, no

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Speaker 2: doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: when it comes to not slowing down the former champion,

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Speaker 4: I have to agree the storyline about him, no stone unturned,

1844
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Speaker 4: not jaying the pen. I mean when he could re

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Speaker 4: you know, Luke, the idea of him. What's the right

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Speaker 4: term I'm looking for?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this's great anyway. Here's the deal, though, Luke, the

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Speaker 4: history of people that have because this has not been

1854
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 4: a tune up fight from O'Malley in between or a

1855
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 4: bounce back number one contender fight. He's going right from

1856
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Speaker 4: a title loss to directly for him, an immediate rematch,

1857
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 4: and under circumstances where people you know complained about whether

1858
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 4: he was truly deserving. Now you've got him absolutely golong

1859
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 4: all in, as you mentioned, where the stakes are pretty high.

1860
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 4: If he he lose his consecutive title bouts, considering the

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01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 4: star push he received, he's pretty much gonna have to

1862
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 4: move up to featherweight, isn't he? Luke right?

1863
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to, but I wonder if he might

1864
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: be incentivized too.

1865
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 4: Yes, and it might be a situation where he might

1866
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 4: be forced to really overhaul a lot of things in

1867
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 4: his career. So this is that all In opportunity to

1868
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 4: regain what he had. And I do take into account

1869
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 4: a few things, the injury, the need for surgery that

1870
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 4: he had coming into the first matchup, whether elements of

1871
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 4: the sphere you know, affected him in ways that it

1872
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 4: didn't Morob, all of these things. I'm excited to see

1873
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 4: where this goes because we're looking at one of the

1874
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 4: biggest potential stars in this game coming off a muted performance.

1875
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 4: Now you've got to keep your back off the canvas

1876
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 4: against Morob. You've also got to hurt him ultimately. So

1877
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 4: this is more intriguing as we are just a few

1878
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 4: days out than I expected when this fight was first announced,

1879
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 4: but you mentioned we do have some sound from Sean O'Malley.

1880
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: May I interject very quickly please. People are like, oh,

1881
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 2: he's doing this the same thing that all fighters do. No,

1882
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 2: he's not Bjpan. In the rematch for Matt Hughes, they

1883
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 2: asked him what he was going to do differently this time,

1884
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 2: and he goes, nothing, I'm gonna go surfing. I mean,

1885
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: I remember this distinctly. He was like, I'm gonna do

1886
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing different. Like there are fighters who are like I.

1887
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 2: Even if you lost, like I still had the right

1888
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: game plan. I still had the right idea just didn't

1889
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 2: come together that night. Blah blah blah. O'Malley's doing the opposite.

1890
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: He is trying in a short amount of time to

1891
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 2: overhaul a bunch and whether it's enough, we'll see. It's

1892
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 2: a tough, tough fight. But if you overhaul a bunch

1893
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 2: and you still don't get there, it leaves you in

1894
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 2: a very strange place oftentimes.

1895
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 4: Sorry about the refractory period, that's what we were thinking of, right, Luke. No, Well,

1896
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 4: he's not gonna need that period this time, Luke. Anyway,

1897
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,480
Speaker 4: let's go to some sound about a strange encounter o'mellyhead.

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Speaker 12: The owl has been like I randomly got this owl

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Speaker 12: the tattoo on my covered up.

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01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 15: He's like, what do you want?

1903
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Speaker 12: It's like, I don't know what would be there. He's

1904
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 12: like some kind of bird. He's like, you fucking tell me.

1905
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 12: He put an owl here? And now it's like ever

1906
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 12: since I, uh, the last it was the period for

1907
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 12: the first period fight I ses, so I watched the

1908
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 12: sunset and like this owl came and flew late on

1909
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 12: this or was sitting on this wood thing by me, and.

1910
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck?

1911
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 12: I was so scared to look up what that meant

1912
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 12: because I thought it was bad, Like what if that's bad?

1913
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 11: I think I've ever seen an owl in my life?

1914
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I looked it up.

1915
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 5: It was ever Harry Potter. It's really it was good luck.

1916
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 6: You at six am?

1917
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 4: Is like a fucking owl.

1918
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, that's only howl I've seen.

1919
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, but owls have been coming in and out of

1920
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 12: my life in a weird way, like a weird way,

1921
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 12: and uh, you know, I moved out to this other

1922
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 12: house and there's I have a bunch of owls that

1923
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 12: live in these trees around me, so I see him

1924
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 12: quite often. Ten days before the Moron fight, there was

1925
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 12: a dead owl in my driveway and I was like

1926
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 12: that that that can't be good. And I was like,

1927
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 12: I was like, I don't know. I didn't want to

1928
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 12: I didn't want to think about that, but I and

1929
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 12: it sounds crazy, but I was like, fuck, I just

1930
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 12: didn't feel like I was supposed to win that fucking fuck.

1931
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 2: He's in his own head. He's in his own head

1932
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 2: a little bit. This is what I mean. You see

1933
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 2: how he's like reinforcing any kind of positivity in there,

1934
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 2: because I wonder if there's like a real hardcore element

1935
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: of doubt that he's trying like a flame he's trying

1936
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: to extinguish.

1937
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 4: Like the invincibility in him was damaged. And now you

1938
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 4: know he's under maybe he is under a serious refactory period,

1939
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 4: just in a different way, you know what I mean.

1940
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 4: It's an interesting storyline just the same. But I do

1941
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 4: like what he says in this next clip about changing

1942
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 4: his mindset and how he looks at Morab And we

1943
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 4: know how often in pro sports are really in pick

1944
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 4: up basketball and anything, Luke, there's a small percentage of

1945
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 4: people that can play emotional, fight emotional and benefit from that.

1946
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 4: O'Malley seems to be the opposite. Let's hear him another thing.

1947
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 12: I just feel like that the second Cheeto rematch there

1948
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 12: was like animosity. I really truly want to beat the

1949
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 12: fuck out of him. He felt like I really didn't

1950
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 12: like him at that time, and I had such a

1951
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 12: good performance. It felt so good. I was like, I'm

1952
01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 12: going to carry that into the mirab like I don't.

1953
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 12: I almost forced myself to not like Morob, but it did.

1954
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 12: It wasn't like genuine, it was just like so I

1955
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 12: felt like I forced that a little bit. And uh,

1956
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 12: this camp, it's like, I have nothing against Morob. I'm

1957
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 12: want to go out there and compete because I love

1958
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 12: to compete. I'm an athlete, I'm a high level performer.

1959
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 12: I want to go out there and put on a

1960
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 12: beautiful performance because I love this sport, not necessarily because

1961
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 12: I don't like me.

1962
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I'm talking about. That's good stuff

1963
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 2: right there.

1964
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. The dead owl thing and the driveways a

1965
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 4: little concerning, Luke, but that's that's refreshing right there. So

1966
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 4: you know Morob though, Luke, didn't. He just hurt another toe?

1967
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 4: Did you see that? I mean, the guy's just popping

1968
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 4: off toes left and right.

1969
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about Morob except he'll

1970
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: be there. He'll be there.

1971
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 4: He'll absolutely be there, Luke. We're gonna break down these

1972
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 4: matchups in depth on Wednesday. But the whole Caleb Kayla

1973
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 4: Harrison making weight and looking great doing it and being

1974
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 4: effective is a big part of this. I like that

1975
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 4: her story is really getting to push this week ahead

1976
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 4: of this title fight, and that she we already know,

1977
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 4: took on the children of sibling who was going through

1978
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 4: hard times, adopted them, became a mom, and is really

1979
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 4: an inspirational sort of encouraging figure in a lot of ways.

1980
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 4: But there's gonna be a big physical task for her

1981
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 4: to finally climb this mountain. We're still looking at someone

1982
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 4: who can do really great historic things in the sport,

1983
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 4: and the idea of her potentially winning this championship and

1984
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 4: welcoming Amanda Nunas it's the best news Women's MMA has

1985
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 4: had in a while. So this Saturday's fight should be

1986
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 4: pretty interesting in that regardless.

1987
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I mean, you know, the whole month

1988
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 2: has got a lot of positivity to it, and there

1989
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: are some is it the best fight the comaine this

1990
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 2: month or even the main Is it the best fight

1991
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 2: this month? No, probably isn't the best fight this month,

1992
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: but it's it's a quality main event. It's a quality

1993
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 2: co main event for the most part, and interesting storylines

1994
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 2: all the way through.

1995
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 4: You got patchie mix, you got Joe Pifer's dislike for Mexico.

1996
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 4: We got a few things to focus on. On Wednesday's

1997
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 4: pregame came, it's.

1998
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 2: It's amazing to me that he's like, I don't want

1999
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 2: to fight in Mexico. You know what, let me go

2000
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: fight in Newark. Guys. Yeah, Newark is not an improvement,

2001
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 2: well you terrible news for everybody Newark.

2002
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 4: Pan will give you all those same water issues you

2003
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 4: had there and uh.

2004
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll get stabbed up on the walk home

2005
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 2: to the to the subway.

2006
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 4: So we catch diesels too on the way. That'd be

2007
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 4: fantastic right there. But you know, the patchy mixed storyline

2008
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 4: very interesting. Can't wait to break this all down come Wednesday,

2009
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 4: eleven a m. Eastern time. This has been the road

2010
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 4: to UFC three sixteen, brought to you by Total Wireless.

2011
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 4: Let's get friggin fired up, Luke letter or those are

2012
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 4: our five topics for the week Long Island Luke, No

2013
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 4: see it. A quick update as we let the people

2014
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 4: know once again that MK murch if you joined us late,

2015
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 4: it's back and it's live right now Morning Coombat Dot

2016
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 4: Shop Long Island, Luke. Are you able to see in

2017
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 4: real time or are we moving product?

2018
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 5: We're moving product. We got almost twenty orders in so far,

2019
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 5: so appreciate everyone who's been ordering. And yeah, keeping perches back.

2020
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 4: Okay, it helps us out. Let it help you out

2021
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 4: this summer in terms of tight T shirts. Okay, let's

2022
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 4: do that thing. There you go. We now transition to

2023
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 4: a fan segment where every Sunday night at morning combat

2024
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 4: on Instagram and x we give you the opportunity to

2025
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 4: join the conversation and get your questions answered. Sometimes they

2026
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 4: jerk off a donkey for the intro. This one's called

2027
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 4: DMS from Donks. You know, I prefer the new one.

2028
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 4: I do. I mean, the first one is just so

2029
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 4: off putting.

2030
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, they're both pretty. It's like computer jizz.

2031
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 4: Eh. You know it's okay, right, Hey. Our first one's

2032
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 4: from Johnny Underscore Thump. If you're Aaron Blanchefield, Johnny asked,

2033
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 4: do you call for the Manon Pharaoh rematch or shoot

2034
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 4: for the Natalia Silva matchup? What is the easier route

2035
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 4: to the title shot in your eyes?

2036
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, Yeah, I don't go back to the Manon

2037
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 2: fight she got. She was fighting a brick wall that night.

2038
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 2: I was a terrible im unless you feel like you

2039
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 2: can really advance past it at this point. But dude,

2040
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 2: Manon is a tough out. You already lost to her.

2041
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 2: Try try a different route. I I don't go back

2042
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 2: to that at all.

2043
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. But as we talked about, Luke, if the next

2044
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 4: two fights for val are Jeonggwi Lee and then in

2045
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 4: already deserving to some degree, Natalia Silva, it all comes

2046
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 4: down to whether UFC says, Aaron, you have to go

2047
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 4: through Menoon a second time because the title is not

2048
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 4: going to be available for a while, or maybe Jongwei

2049
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 4: Lee does get the next one. Is there any world

2050
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 4: in which they tell in Natalia Silva you have to

2051
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 4: go through Minnown yourself to get the Toits.

2052
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Unlikely. I would bet against that Yeah.

2053
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 4: Okay, but he wanted to know, if you're Aaron, what

2054
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 4: would you do, Luke? And probably stay spicy and cold

2055
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 4: blood it would be the answer.

2056
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 2: Right, Get, try to get a fight booked, Get out

2057
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 2: of Jersey maybe no, get to leave Jersey permanently. Okay,

2058
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 2: and never go back there.

2059
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 4: You go, shout out to Aaron Blanchfield. Let's hear from

2060
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 4: Eric Bolden. He says, what would be the odds for

2061
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 4: a Kayla Harrison versus Amanda fight if Kayla demolished payinya first? Furthermore,

2062
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 4: could that fight headline a UFC pay per view and

2063
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 4: do decent numbers if the undercart is solid.

2064
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 2: It's a good question for a resident gambling expert and

2065
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: boyfriend of the year. What do you think? What's the

2066
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: in the scenario that they're positing? Give me a line.

2067
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 5: All right, So Kayla just first round finish over Juliana.

2068
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 2: Let's say, let's say it's a round and a half,

2069
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: but it's just a fucking beat.

2070
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 4: Down rounded pound. It's a joke from behind.

2071
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not just that gets the takedown, passes the

2072
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 2: dominant position and just works her over.

2073
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 5: It's tough just because Amanda is going to be coming off. However,

2074
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 5: many a year layoff now, like how long has she

2075
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 5: been out, It's probably gonna be two years by the time.

2076
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 4: Two years. I think it's two years for old Mandy. Yeah.

2077
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's up there in age if I'm not mistaken,

2078
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 5: over thirty five, right.

2079
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's also the greatest of all time. So take that.

2080
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 5: I mean, dude, if she could stop the takedown, this

2081
01:38:55,880 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 5: is Amanda's fight, I'm gonna still fuck man, this is

2082
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 5: a tough one to line. I'm gonna say Kayla Harrison

2083
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 5: is still the dog, but it's close. I'll say she's

2084
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 5: like plus one ten Amanda minus one thirty.

2085
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 2: I'd go a little higher. I'd go Amanda like minus

2086
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 2: one ninety.

2087
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 4: Well, she the striking, she would have a potential dominant advantage.

2088
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 4: But Luke, look, outside of the first Valentina fight in

2089
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 4: round three and maybe the second GDR fight, we've never

2090
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 4: really seen Amanda like handled consistently on the ground.

2091
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: Right.

2092
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 2: There might be a couple more than that one, but yeah,

2093
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean it's few and far between, certainly. I Mean.

2094
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,679
Speaker 2: The issue is this like one of the things we've spotlighted,

2095
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it on Wednesday. Penya has terrible

2096
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 2: takedown defence from a statistical point of view, so you know,

2097
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 2: it's hard to know what that might mean if Harrison

2098
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 2: struggles against her but wins in terms of getting the takedown.

2099
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 2: You're like, Oh, you're not going to get the takedown

2100
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 2: on Amanda. Yes, you know what I mean. That's different

2101
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 2: kind of conversation just.

2102
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 4: For age purposes. Kayla Harrison will turn thirty five on

2103
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 4: July second, and Amanda Newness just three days ago turned

2104
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 4: thirty seven.

2105
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 2: Still she can punch, you know.

2106
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that now. The final question

2107
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 4: from Eric Bolden there was could it be a main

2108
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 4: event on its own? I mean it could be, but

2109
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 4: I would think it would be a comane a to

2110
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 4: a pretty good title fight.

2111
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,560
Speaker 2: And be a large Yes, but if need be, it

2112
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 2: could headline.

2113
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,799
Speaker 4: Yes, Like, doesn't this kind of feel like the perfect

2114
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 4: ifw Comaine or am I.

2115
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 2: No, it would under that scenario would be a perfect one.

2116
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if they're gonna wait

2117
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 2: that long or what's gonna at that point.

2118
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 4: Our third DM comes in from lower case three. He says,

2119
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 4: who are the fighters that make up the top five

2120
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 4: chins in active current MMA, and what about historically if

2121
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,840
Speaker 4: a Tory comes to mind for current fighters, considering he

2122
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 4: gets nuked and stays standing, Yeah, he's got a help

2123
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 4: for modern UFC right now active fighters. But Tory's got

2124
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 4: a hell of a beard.

2125
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 2: Ell the Tory, I mean it's been cracked now, but

2126
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 2: it's you know, historically speaking, even though he's still relevant.

2127
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 2: Max Max Holloway's chin has been fucking legendary.

2128
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 4: John Jones, maybe Luke.

2129
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 2: John Jones has a phenomenal chin, you know, who just

2130
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 2: never gets hurt hardly at all. Trying to think like

2131
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 2: who else had like a really good chip. I mean, dude,

2132
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 2: like some of these guys like they're not really relevant anymore,

2133
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, but Stepe had a phenomenal chin. But honestly,

2134
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 2: like the beginning of the chin conversation historically starts with

2135
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 2: No Garra. No Gerra has had the maybe the most

2136
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:38,560
Speaker 2: amazing chin I've ever seen at any way, class just

2137
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 2: an absolute demon to deal with. Josh Neer early on

2138
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 2: had a good chin. Nelson, Roy Nelson had a ridiculous chin.

2139
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 4: A lot of these mark up there, who Mark Hunt

2140
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 4: for a long time.

2141
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he had a good chin as well. I

2142
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 2: mean again, you know, you have to kind of define

2143
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 2: the era in which it was their best because you

2144
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 2: see them when he gets cracked and it's not the

2145
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 2: same anymore.

2146
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,640
Speaker 4: But big Nog, dude, prime, Big Nog is just in

2147
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 4: you said it, good Lord, that's that might be my

2148
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 4: pick for the greatest chin ever because those Pride fights

2149
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 4: were just.

2150
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 2: The Gara fought a nearly four hundred pounds sap who

2151
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,560
Speaker 2: like separated his vertebrae on the first spike of the

2152
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 2: goddamn fight, like dude, and he didn't won it, you

2153
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like he's just insane. It's a

2154
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 2: different level of physical punishment.

2155
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 4: You can talk, hey, to try to bring a female

2156
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 4: into this, Do you put Juliana Pina in there?

2157
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 6: No?

2158
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 4: No, do you put anybody in there?

2159
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 2: You know, just go on. Rog has a respectable chin. Yeah,

2160
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,839
Speaker 2: but it's been tapped. Yeah no, I know more recently

2161
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 2: it's become more of a liability. But she's been hit

2162
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: with some big shots.

2163
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 4: And Joe way Lee took her out quick, Luke.

2164
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 2: I know, I know now it's not the case, but

2165
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 2: there had there was a time. There was a time

2166
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 2: where she.

2167
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 4: Was I mean before it went Liddell could could take

2168
01:42:59,120 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 4: a bomb Ladell.

2169
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 2: Well maybe Liz Carmouche had a decent chin for a while,

2170
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 2: she could take a big shot.

2171
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, all right, that's great. It was great

2172
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 4: talking to you on this one. Let's hear from what

2173
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 4: the hell russell question with missus Luke Thomas being of

2174
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 4: Colombian descent.

2175
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Columbia spelled wrong, it's Columbia.

2176
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 4: Can Luke actually dance? Or does a gangster still? Just

2177
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 4: bounce a little? Now, Luke? It's been established on this

2178
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 4: show that I will tear up your wedding reception dance

2179
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 4: floor and make it all about me. But can Luke

2180
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 4: move if he needs to?

2181
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 2: I can sulsa only because I've taken many, many salsa lessons.

2182
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 2: That's it. So you know, do I freestyle? And can

2183
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 2: I freestyle?

2184
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 5: No?

2185
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 2: No, it's a disaster.

2186
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 4: Wait, okay, we're at a wedding reception, all right, Yeah,

2187
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 4: we just finished eating, we're drinking, we're laughing with each other,

2188
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 4: and then like a traditional classic dancing banger for the

2189
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 4: old people, it might be like celebration or something. For me,

2190
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 4: who's also an old person but a different era, it's

2191
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 4: gonna be gonna Make You Sweat by C and C

2192
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 4: Music Factory. Let's say that song hits Luke. We're at

2193
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 4: the reception together, our wives, gravised by the arms, we

2194
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 4: head out to the dance floor. You don't have like

2195
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 4: a little bit of like just to sid like I

2196
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 4: don't mean to bring in the trump dance, but like

2197
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 4: something like that, just a go to safe movie, you mean.

2198
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 2: Like safe white guy, hold position, don't embarrass yourself, kind

2199
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: of like a tread water thing. Yes, I've got a

2200
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 2: tread water thing. Okay, but I can't like commit, you

2201
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I can only commit under like

2202
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 2: very very narrow circumstances.

2203
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that's fair.

2204
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 2: But dude, they they they you know, it's what do

2205
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 2: you want to say? It's a festive time. You gotta

2206
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 2: be ready, you know.

2207
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 4: Would you say Columbian people in general can really dance?

2208
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 2: Or is that Yes, it's the thing that you don't

2209
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 2: really understand. I didn't fully understand, and like how can

2210
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 2: that be? Like, is you know they're not born that way.

2211
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 2: It's just such a part of everything early on in

2212
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 2: their life, both like at school and in so they're

2213
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 2: always dancing. There's like something dance is just a big

2214
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 2: element of life, broadly for young, for old, for every

2215
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 2: everything everything. So yes, it's it's so pervasive that you

2216
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 2: know they are just better at it.

2217
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 4: Right, would your wife be angry at Aileen Perez's post

2218
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,719
Speaker 4: winning theatric dancing in the UFC cage upset?

2219
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't think she'd be upset at it. She might

2220
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 2: have some choice words about it, but I don't think

2221
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 2: she'd be upset about it.

2222
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 4: Okay, that's great. Finally from von Beckel, are you guys

2223
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 4: doing any camping this summer or are you city rats?

2224
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: So my family's been asking me to take them camping

2225
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 2: for maybe a solid year now.

2226
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 4: And this is real camping, like drive to a campsite,

2227
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,799
Speaker 4: put up a tent, right, You're not talking about.

2228
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 2: Like all right, So I'm glad you brought I'm glad

2229
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 2: you asked that because, first of all, I was an

2230
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 2: eagle scout in the Boy Scouts, Right, So I was dude.

2231
01:45:56,640 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 4: When it comes to things like yeah, debate team sergeant

2232
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 4: in the Marines, it eagle scout.

2233
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was an eagle scout.

2234
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:04,560
Speaker 3: I was.

2235
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 2: I got it? How old was I? I got it?

2236
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 16: Before?

2237
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 2: I that was fifteen sixteen something like that. I think

2238
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,719
Speaker 2: I just started I had second year of high school,

2239
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 2: so something like that. But I definitely did it. I

2240
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 2: was actually quite bitter about it because I had a

2241
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 2: single mom at the time, as everyone probably can recall

2242
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: me talking about, and I never had they do it

2243
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 2: like this is the voice of the Eagle thing when

2244
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 2: you get it, and I never had an eagle ceremony.

2245
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 2: So they gave me the patch. I was able to

2246
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 2: wear it, and I actually I might even have it

2247
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 2: stole in my closet somewhere. I had. Do you know

2248
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 2: the differences between the Boy Scouts and the Explorers. The

2249
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 2: Explorers is like for older people and it's actually co

2250
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 2: ed and you wear a green shirt on a brown one.

2251
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 2: So I had that.

2252
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Explorers, well I did.

2253
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 2: After that. After that, I was like, I think I'm

2254
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 2: done with this part of my life. And that's when

2255
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 2: I actually had the year after that when actually I

2256
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 2: had my first serious girlfriends. So it actually kind of

2257
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 2: happened right like that. But in any case, between that

2258
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 2: and the Marine Corps, where I literally one time had

2259
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 2: to get hospitalized because of the number of mosquito bites

2260
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 2: on my face and head, I've I've I don't like

2261
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 2: being out in the elements anymore. I don't. It's I

2262
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: had to deal with so much suffering that I it

2263
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 2: made me kind of like, I hate it. To be

2264
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: honest with you, I told him that you.

2265
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 4: Would say anything positive about camping.

2266
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Well, what I told him was, I'll do like the

2267
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 2: half thing where you can rent like a yurt. He

2268
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 2: was seeing these things called yurts, or you can do

2269
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 2: glamping is what they call it. I told him, I'll

2270
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 2: do that. I'll do that, but I'm not I'm not

2271
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: buying a tent to fucking dicks and then setting it

2272
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 2: up and then getting chewed to death by fucking mosquitos.

2273
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.

2274
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 5: I'm chiming in here to say that my family we

2275
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 5: go camping like every summer. We're going in a few weeks.

2276
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 5: And camping is great, man, sleeping, you get a nice pet,

2277
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 5: you just sit in front of the fire all day,

2278
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 5: drinking beers.

2279
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's good time for Do you hear yourself?

2280
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 2: Do you realize I have a child like I mean.

2281
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 5: All my nieces and nephews come. They range in ages

2282
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 5: from two to fourteen.

2283
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 2: Or are you watching them?

2284
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2285
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 5: Sometimes you're not my kids sometimes sure, but I have

2286
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 5: to say Luke.

2287
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 4: Back when we really didn't have money for you know,

2288
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 4: what you would consider normal vacations or expensive vacations, we

2289
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 4: did a lot of family camping when the kids were small.

2290
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 4: We did a full week at a Kadia National Park

2291
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 4: in Maine, and it's it's a it's weird, it's amazing.

2292
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:29,719
Speaker 4: At the end, you're like, wow, that was an incredible experience.

2293
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 4: But it's a lot. It's a lot of work to

2294
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 4: spend a whole week sleeping outside and.

2295
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 2: It's to be me and me and to to Columbiana's

2296
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 2: like what, you think they're going to help me set

2297
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 2: up the tent. Yeah, you think they're going to help

2298
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 2: me make the fire? Like I have to do everything.

2299
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 4: It was great when my kids are small. I feel

2300
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,879
Speaker 4: like once we could afford not to camp, we stopped.

2301
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 4: But I do miss it. It is a lot of setup,

2302
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 4: it's a lot of work.

2303
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 2: And again I don't have a tent, I don't have

2304
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 2: a sleeping bag, I don't have any gear. So now

2305
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 2: we have to go buy all this gear, you know.

2306
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there is something about once it's all

2307
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 4: set up and you're looking at the lake and you're

2308
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 4: sitting in your chair, the fire's going. I mean, it

2309
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,799
Speaker 4: is pretty awesome. Luke, turn that phone off, right, connect

2310
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 4: with nature.

2311
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 2: The part is great. That's what I'm saying. If I

2312
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 2: could do a glamping scenario where I don't have to

2313
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: bring half of these provisions, we'll talk about it.

2314
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 4: But all right, I don't. I don't think that's the

2315
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 4: most manly response you've had, though, considering you're an ex

2316
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 4: Marine sergeant who survived Paris Island.

2317
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, dude, I'm telling you like I had to

2318
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 2: sit in the back of a five ton in New

2319
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 2: Jersey at Fort Dix one time. They didn't have a

2320
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 2: lid on the five ton and it was snowing and

2321
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 2: freezing rain, and we had to ride on the back

2322
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 2: of that bitch for hours. Dude. I it's like I

2323
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 2: remember that night going to bed, and because we actually

2324
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 2: made it back to the motor pool and I got

2325
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: in my sleeping bag, and I remember I just could

2326
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 2: not get warm. Hour after hour I just sat there freezing.

2327
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 2: And then the next one, the summer hits, I had

2328
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 2: to get hospitalized because I couldn't open my eyes for

2329
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 2: the amount of mosquitoes that had feasted on me during

2330
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 2: the course of that evening. It's like, dude, you go

2331
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 2: through a few of these experiences, You're like, it's not

2332
01:49:57,840 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 2: that money outside, it's just not.

2333
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 4: Here we go. That was your DMS from Donks. Thank

2334
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 4: you for playing. A reminder that you can reach our

2335
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Speaker 4: program by emailing Morningcombat at gmail dot com. We will

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01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 4: not have a show this Friday programming update obviously, as

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01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 4: we'll have Wednesday's pregame preview, but the following week you

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01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 4: better believe we're coming strong with fansubmissions and dead wrongs

2339
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 4: and maybe you guys showing Mikey your package, but please don't.

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Speaker 4: Our final segment involves me scouring the internet like I

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01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 4: did yesterday during that brief break between flights in Dallas

2342
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 4: at the Admiral's Lounge, Shout out American Airlines, where I

2343
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,440
Speaker 4: put together enough weird videos to try to make Luke uncomfortable.

2344
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 4: This one's called BC's specs, who uh indeed, Luke. We

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01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,759
Speaker 4: start with the quote of the week and it comes

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01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 4: from Mike Bones interview with the one and only Derek Lewis.

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Speaker 17: If the guys called me out, you know, so, I

2348
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 17: think what I need to start doing now once I

2349
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 17: knocked guys out. Stop putting my finger in the ass.

2350
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 17: You know it's people alone to call me out afterwards.

2351
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 17: You know, if I stop putting my finger in my

2352
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 17: opponent asked why they knocked down on the ground. I

2353
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,839
Speaker 17: don't think nobody won't call me out anymore.

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01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 2: No, no, deed nod. I guess that's funny if you're five.

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01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 4: Oh, come on, that's great stuff from that man. He's

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01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 4: known for that. Come on.

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01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah again, I guess it's funny if you I've been

2358
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 2: exposed to lead at an early age.

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01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 4: All right, Luke, sorry about that. You know who's under

2360
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,520
Speaker 4: fire this week on the Old Twitar Tayo Fema Lopez.

2361
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 4: One week after brawling over the Internet with Turkey Ala Chic,

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01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 4: Tayo is getting ripped for this tweet Saturday to his

2363
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 4: Excellency turkeyla Chic, I take full responsibility for my inappropriate

2364
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 4: words on the x app. I publicly apologize to h E.

2365
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 4: I will conduct myself with greater respect, humility, and professionalism.

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01:51:55,640 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 4: Sending love and light to all hashtag boxing except.

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Except African Americans, but yes to everybody else. He probably is.

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01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 5: That's right.

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01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 4: Does this look like the way the boxing public is

2370
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 4: receiving it that you talk all that junk until it

2371
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 4: comes time to lose money, and now you're back kissing

2372
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 4: h E's ball bag.

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01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tato is a great boxer and seems to be

2374
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 2: a terrible person, but I guess we'll see how that

2375
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:20,759
Speaker 2: can be. That's it's hard.

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01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 4: Because he's one of my favorite personalities until the hard

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01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 4: R era. But like you know, it's just damn.

2378
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 2: The hard R era. That's what we're living in, BC

2379
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 2: well hard era.

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Speaker 4: Our next subcategory is a shout out to all things

2381
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 4: father daughter bonding, you and the late Kobe Bryant hashtag

2382
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 4: girl dads And Luke, do you ever go golfing with Chuky?

2383
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: I've taken it to the driving range. Definitely that.

2384
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 4: This dad has done the same thing.

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01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:50,560
Speaker 2: What's up guys today, I'm going to be golfing with

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01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 2: my daughter. How high were you when you.

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01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:00,640
Speaker 4: Would recommend that?

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01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 6: But uh?

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01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 4: And Luke, unfortunately your tickets for the Father Daughter Shakira

2390
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 4: concert fell through. But this could have been you.

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01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't anybody know what I'm looking at. Oh, okay, okay,

2392
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 2: that one's better.

2393
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 4: And Luke, this last clip is definitely not the way

2394
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 4: we want Father bonding to go for anybody. If you

2395
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 4: found out your daughter was an OnlyFans model, what would

2396
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 4: you do.

2397
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 5: Well, I would probably have to unsubscribe.

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01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: No sound, but that's a good joke. That's Oh I

2399
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 2: heard the song.

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01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 4: You didn't hear the sound.

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01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: I didn't hear the sound.

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01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 5: It was only in the left speaker.

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01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 4: A well, is he is Luke gonna have a problem

2404
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 4: moving forward?

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01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 6: No?

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01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 5: I think it was just that clip.

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01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so I can switch.

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01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 4: But Lucas time for your local news interruptions of the week.

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01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 4: Here's Molly McBride.

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01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 14: We'll check back in with Molly and just An honest.

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01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 13: So she's having some interactions there, bro.

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01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 4: Did she have a dollar?

2413
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 2: And I didn't care? If you've not been to Vegas,

2414
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 2: the how would you describe to BC the vagrants who

2415
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: wafted through Strip Mall parking lots in Vegas are a

2416
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 2: unique kind of breed that you typically don't see in

2417
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 2: a lot of other American cities. True or false?

2418
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 4: Well, I see them in Newark. But yes, yes, yes, yes.

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01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's and it's just people coming and going. I

2420
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 2: mean that guy might have been down on his luck

2421
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 2: a little bit there, obviously, But it's just like I'm

2422
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 2: telling you, walking through a parking lot and Vegas Strip

2423
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 2: mall is you're gonna see some wild ship. Let's put

2424
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 2: it that way. You will.

2425
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 4: Here's our second news blooper of the week. Listen to

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01:54:58,920 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 4: this lady closely.

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01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 18: Oh the police wouldn't let me go to through one

2428
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 18: hundred and twenty seconds, so I had to go around

2429
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 18: one hundred and nineteenth and go and I was They

2430
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 18: let me look at the lawyer's building. I know the

2431
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 18: vacuum cleaner man. He's seen my tits. I know that's

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01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 18: not going on TV.

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01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 13: But it's true.

2434
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 5: It's true.

2435
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 18: I'm not here to lie to you.

2436
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 4: Look, truth prevails again.

2437
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Okay, poor guy, That poor guy, well he came to.

2438
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 4: Sell her a vacuum and he got a folly out

2439
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 4: of that.

2440
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know what actually credit to him. He

2441
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 2: was like here, I'm here to vacuum. She's like, no,

2442
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 2: you're not. Take a look at the well.

2443
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 4: Look, we honor he's like.

2444
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 2: The landlord in uh in Kingdom.

2445
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 4: We honored the great Long Island Luke with his contributions

2446
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 4: to getting our merch off the ground. And here's a

2447
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 4: young kid standing up for Long Island Luke's pronunciation of

2448
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:54,879
Speaker 4: the word coffee.

2449
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 13: Yo, guys.

2450
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 10: I was at Starbucks and the guy ash me, do

2451
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 10: you want a cup of coffee? I said, Yo, guy,

2452
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 10: it's a cup of coffee. And I'm twelve years old

2453
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 10: and I don't drink coffee. But if I did drink coffee,

2454
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 10: I would drink expressio with no sugar, like a real

2455
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 10: man and with the shade, no problems.

2456
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 4: How you doing Long Island? Look, you must feel attacked

2457
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 4: by this.

2458
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 5: I mean, he's on point. It is a cup of coffee.

2459
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Two hint, that's who that is.

2460
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 4: And this is normally what a Long Island and Luke

2461
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 4: is like on a podcast. If you haven't watched the

2462
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 4: main card minute.

2463
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 5: The beck seat, I mean long out.

2464
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 4: Look what happened on the podcast when the main event

2465
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 4: was canceled? Was it just all right?

2466
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 5: Let's just know we just sat and talked about it

2467
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 5: for like another thirty minutes or so with everyone in

2468
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 5: the chat because we were all just like fuck. It

2469
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 5: kind of felt. Some described it as being blue bowled.

2470
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 5: It was kind of an accurate description because you're like

2471
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 5: waiting for the main event and then they're like, oh no,

2472
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 5: actually the card's over and you're like.

2473
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 4: Risky take by you considering it was a female main event.

2474
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 4: But that's just fine.

2475
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 2: I just went to bed.

2476
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 4: All right. Here's Bud Crawford playing our boys.

2477
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 2: Ac In Barack, who's the hardest puncher you ever faced?

2478
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 2: Should be these nuts?

2479
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke, I pop for that.

2480
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 2: Come on, he sold it well. I'll say that he

2481
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 2: sold it well.

2482
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 4: Luke signed signs everywhere. There's signs wherever this is.

2483
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 2: We need to show up, right, God damn, what the

2484
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 2: fuck's going on over there?

2485
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm kind of interested.

2486
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 16: Uh.

2487
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 4: Also, Luke, while you're at it, please don't jerk and drive.

2488
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 4: Let's go to the next one. Okay, what are we

2489
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 4: doing here?

2490
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 2: You know what? I needed to hear that before I

2491
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 2: got behind the wheel of the car today because I

2492
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 2: was definitely thinking of, you know, going to Low's or

2493
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 2: something and then just having a having.

2494
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 4: Disgusting. It's time for your biggest l's of the week.

2495
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 4: Let's hit the runway at the fashion show. Luke, what

2496
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 4: do you think is gonna happen here?

2497
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 2: I have a feeling this is gonna end terribly. Yep,

2498
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 2: here we go, there we go?

2499
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, maybe we should get some railings on

2500
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 4: there here. Let's also go to the funeral r I p.

2501
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 2: Mean we about to see some heinous ship I hope not, Luke.

2502
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 4: I mean I don't always screen all these, but uh,

2503
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 4: you know they're honoring one who's who's uh, who's past

2504
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 4: one who has fallen?

2505
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 2: If you will right, Oh my fucking god, Oh my god.

2506
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, just what don't you? I want you to

2507
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 4: know that North Korea did approve that for the Today Show.

2508
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 5: Just so you know.

2509
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,800
Speaker 2: But uh, how did the North Korean censors let that

2510
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 2: one through?

2511
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 4: I actually had to get a full approval. But not

2512
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:57,880
Speaker 4: the first dead body we've shown on this show.

2513
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 2: Let me ask a question. Have you ever carried a caskep.

2514
01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 1: Of I have?

2515
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 4: Yes. My great great aunt who was one hundred and three,

2516
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 4: I carried her candy.

2517
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I had to carry a caskie when I was

2518
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 2: a teenager. I had a friend who was a teen

2519
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 2: who died. It's not the most fun experience. Don't recommend that.

2520
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 4: I mean, especially when the bottom drops out, Luke, But

2521
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 4: you know that's awful. Hey, did you ever do you

2522
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:17,600
Speaker 4: did a lot of nerd stuff? Did you do college

2523
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 4: team trivia? Wi William and Mary.

2524
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 2: I did not do that in William Mary.

2525
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 5: No.

2526
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 4: All right, well here's these kids doing it whose last

2527
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 4: words were let's do it.

2528
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 6: Sandy the passengers of flight ninety three.

2529
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 2: Incorrect, that was right, So that answer was let's roll,

2530
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 2: not let's do it. Who was the answer? Do we know?

2531
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that was, you know, maybe an

2532
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 4: unnecessary callback to a tragedy. Indeed, right there. Also, Luke,

2533
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 4: you ever had your graduation, just want to grab your

2534
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 4: diploma and be like fu for the last four years

2535
01:59:58,880 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 4: this kid did.

2536
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 2: Everyone is dumb?

2537
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 4: Wow.

2538
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean I didn't have general hostility at the

2539
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 2: institution that was granted me a certification of completion of

2540
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 2: their programs. But I'm also, you know, not a fucking

2541
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 2: idiot like this guy.

2542
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 4: So well, you know, Luke, people have asked often, who's

2543
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 4: your favorite character in this segment? What do you think

2544
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 4: the answer would be? Cake Lady? Obviously let's check in

2545
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 4: with her.

2546
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:34,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, where is a drive by shooter? When you one,

2547
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna eat the fucking Oh my god?

2548
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 4: Oh boy, Luke, the friend you.

2549
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 2: Just know her dumps are next level insane?

2550
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 4: Can she's She lives in France, I don't know if

2551
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 4: her English is good. If I can get her on

2552
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 4: this program, will you be okay with that?

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02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 2: She's gonna start eating her hands and ship it's.

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02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:58,879
Speaker 4: Gonna I'm into that, Okay, I'm definitely into that. Speaking

2555
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Speaker 4: of would you eat, Luke, this is the big get

2556
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 4: you can get at the Major League Baseball stadium. It's

2557
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 4: called the Slugger Dog. It's forty dollars and it's a

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02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 4: sixteen inch glizzy.

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02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 2: Wow, my man, my man went to work on the

2560
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 2: sheboying boying, didn't he?

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02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, should you get after the hog

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02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 4: that aggresses? Yeah?

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02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 2: Why don't you put more mail on it? You fucking

2564
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 2: absolute creeting.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's great stuff here, Luke Katz. As we

2566
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 4: know from Reggie and Zoe already appearing on today's episode,

2567
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 4: they're the coolest animals ever. All right, you know that?

2568
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 4: Watch this? Oh yeah, wake up, wake and bake. Right,

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02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 4: that's great differ right there.

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Speaker 2: All right? Oh yeah, Mittens wants to get to work

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Speaker 2: on that.

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02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 4: Here's Mitten's brother also interested.

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Speaker 2: All right, Luke, Yeah, yeah, I get him a bit.

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Speaker 4: All right, there you go, Luke. There's an announcement here

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02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 4: for all, potential homeowner.

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Speaker 16: You're not gonna believe this.

2577
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 2: See this right here?

2578
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 16: See this hole could be a mouse, a rat, a mole.

2579
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2580
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 16: I had gerbils and hamsters when I was a kid,

2581
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 16: so I've got kind of a love for these animals.

2582
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 16: The inside of this tube is scented with a pheromone

2583
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 16: that will attract whatever kind of roadent this is to

2584
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 16: go right in the two and run out the other side. Now,

2585
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:19,840
Speaker 16: all we gotta do is wait for these babies to

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02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 16: get to their new home.

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Speaker 4: That gup was brought to you by Richard Gear Luke obviously, Okay,

2588
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 4: all right, such.

2589
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,760
Speaker 2: An old man reference that Richard gear snuck Gerbils in

2590
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Speaker 2: his ass.

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02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:39,760
Speaker 4: Oh Luke, you big Back to the Future fan like

2592
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 4: Jay Aaron.

2593
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:42,280
Speaker 2: I do like Back to the Future. Yeah, all right,

2594
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 2: some people have.

2595
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 4: Issues with the plot hole consistencies, right, you know what?

2596
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:50,800
Speaker 2: He did? Miss that detail?

2597
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 4: Anyways, Luke, them streets are pretty crazy, yo. Watch out.

2598
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 4: Let's go to some road rage here. There's the cage.

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02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 4: Is that pronounced cahoon cajun pass?

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02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm guessing cahoon, but I don't know. Hell yeah, dude,

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02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 2: hell yeah.

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Speaker 4: Or I have seen this before a few times, Luke

2603
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:13,840
Speaker 4: in Connecticut, this is oh.

2604
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:16,800
Speaker 2: Man just slugging it out. That's awesome, dude. There was

2605
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 2: a video that the local news did of this year's

2606
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:23,280
Speaker 2: valedictorian from Harvard. It's a it's a it's an Asian girl.

2607
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 2: So they're talking to her and in the background of

2608
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 2: wherever they were in Cambridge, two American guys start fighting,

2609
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 2: and it's like, this seems like a metaphor for our

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Speaker 2: life right now.

2611
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:35,560
Speaker 4: Indeed. Indeed, also, Luke, you big into drive throughs.

2612
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 2: I live in a city, so driveters aren't that common here,

2613
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 2: but uh, you know when in Rome.

2614
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 4: Sure, well if you don't have one in your city,

2615
02:03:43,360 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 4: just make one, Okay. That's uh, that's why were they

2616
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 4: banging up the dollar tree that way? Hit? What the

2617
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 4: fuck was that I could buy the whole store with

2618
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:16,840
Speaker 4: what's in my wallet? Look, I don't know. That's pretty wild.

2619
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 4: Here here's your subway fight of the week, though, the off.

2620
02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:44,280
Speaker 2: Whatever dude, he had to sit on that train ride

2621
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 2: after just getting bitched and everyone looking at him. Whatever, funk.

2622
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:51,240
Speaker 4: Look, it's time for your worst T shirts of the week.

2623
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 4: Let's check out this couple first. That man loves finger painting.

2624
02:04:58,320 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 2: These two look like classic individuals.

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02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well look it's good to have a

2626
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:05,720
Speaker 4: wingman like this. Next guy right when you go out.

2627
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, someone's gotta jump on that grenade. He's making

2628
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:10,839
Speaker 2: it explicit.

2629
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 4: Luke, we got one more for you. Have you heard

2630
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 4: the latest new woke world mandate that barbers need to

2631
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:20,400
Speaker 4: ask permission first? You hear about this all right before

2632
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 4: we start today?

2633
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 3: Is it okay if I test you?

2634
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:28,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm getting a haircut tomorrow. I'm gonna I'm gonna

2635
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 2: decline that part of the service. You know what I'm saying.

2636
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 4: Okay, that's the ship of the week. I hope you

2637
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 4: enjoyed that, all right, see see see you're gonna give

2638
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 4: a seat of that. Come on, well all right see

2639
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:43,480
Speaker 4: see then all right, that's all the show we can

2640
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 4: provide for you today, though, thank you for playing one

2641
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 4: more time. If you like this new, brand new shirt

2642
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 4: right here, you like the one on Luke's chest, why

2643
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 4: don't you head over to Morning Combat Dot Shop Right freakin' now,

2644
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 4: Merch three point zero is back. It's a new era.

2645
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:02,000
Speaker 4: It's a new season in our life, Long Island, Luke,

2646
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 4: Luke Thomas and myself Average Joe Art helping out. We

2647
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 4: have been so pleased to be able to get this

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02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 4: off the ground, so thank you for supporting the show

2649
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 4: and new designs coming every single month, Limited edition and

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02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 4: don't forget. You can also order the signed Beavis and

2651
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:25,360
Speaker 4: butt Head Morning Combat posters right now, signed by Luke

2652
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 4: Thomas and Brian Campbell. Get fired Up, Let's go. That's

2653
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,120
Speaker 4: all I got? You know what I mean? Anything else

2654
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 4: from Long Island? Luke? You got anything else to say?

2655
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 5: You HAVEC three sixteen bet Breakdown coming out today, tune

2656
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 5: in for that. I'll be doing the full card watch

2657
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 5: along Saturday.

2658
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 4: You are the Drill Wednesday, brought to you by Quervo.

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Speaker 4: It is pregame preview YOUFC three sixteen. So no show

2660
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 4: this Friday, but check us out Wednesday, eleven am Eastern.

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02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 4: A bron will join us, Luke Thomas. They can follow

2662
02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 4: us at the handles below. They can check out our

2663
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:59,560
Speaker 4: content on YouTube. You also have good things going on

2664
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 4: over at sub Stack. Anything people should be looking for

2665
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:03,920
Speaker 4: this week.

2666
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing Let's See a Fight Day

2667
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 2: episode where we watch old fights together and watch breakdown tape,

2668
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 2: So that'll be later on substack, but I'll have a

2669
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Speaker 2: bunch of stuff on YouTube as well, YouTube dot com

2670
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:16,680
Speaker 2: slash Luke Thomas great stuff.

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02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 4: We'll see you guys on Wednesday and have a great week.

2672
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 4: All right, Let's go, Let's get fired up, good weather outside,

2673
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 4: raise your spirits, enjoy life, get after it for BC,

2674
02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 4: n LT and l L. Apparently I'm also BC. Have

2675
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Speaker 4: a great time.

2676
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Speaker 15: But we out All the Smoke Fighters headed to the

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Speaker 15: Hall of Fame.

2678
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Speaker 17: That's right.

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Speaker 15: This year's International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction weekend in

2680
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 15: boxing's hometown Hannah Stoda, New York. It takes place on Thursday,

2681
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Speaker 15: June fifth through Sunday June eighth, ending with an annual

2682
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 15: ceremony immortalizing boxing's all time greats.

2683
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 3: The International Boxing Hall of Fame a hosting fan events

2684
02:07:52,520 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 3: and experiences all weekend long. On Friday night, June sixth,

2685
02:07:55,960 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 3: Salida Promotion will present a Terrific Fight car in association

2686
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 3: with All the Smoke Fight Live on the Zone from

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Speaker 3: the Turningstone Resort Casino and Ramona, New York, featuring USBA

2688
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 3: Heavyweight Champion Brandon Moore defending his title against undefeated prospect

2689
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 3: Stanley Right in the main event. Plus a stack undercard

2690
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Speaker 3: featuring world champion Franchion Foods Dessern and rising prospects JJ

2691
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 3: Pagan and Develle Smith.

2692
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Speaker 15: Sounds to me, we're gonna have a great fight night

2693
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 15: and of course Sunday the ceremony to a productor class

2694
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 15: of twenty twenty five legends like Many Pacman, pak Yao, Michael,

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02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:33,160
Speaker 15: Second to None and Pasmanian Devil Vinnie Paz.

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Speaker 3: Joined All the Smoke Fight and Seleted Promotion at Turning

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02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:39,480
Speaker 3: Stone Resort Casino for this year's International Boxing Hall of

2698
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 3: Fame Induction weekend.

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Speaker 4: Hey listen.

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Speaker 15: Visit Turningstone dot com for accommodations and tickets to Fridays

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Speaker 15: fight Night. Visit ibhof dot com for the full Induction

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Speaker 15: weekend schedule