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Speaker 1: work with there in Chicago. What's your expectation for this game? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this expectation, the expectation for the game. It could

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Speaker 1: be a bit of a slog. It could be a

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Speaker 1: little ikey in terms of like which offense shows up.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I'm gonna say, because I'm gonna to

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears angle. Uh. Matt Epofluce has done a

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Speaker 1: great job of already changing the culture of the Bears.

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Speaker 1: The Bears run hard, they play hard, they play physical defensively, Man,

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Speaker 1: you can see what he did in Indy. You can

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Speaker 1: see that put in practice, uh in Chicago. This is

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Speaker 1: a team that is really trying to wear you down

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Speaker 1: with the physicality, toughness and their hustle. And they've done

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Speaker 1: that and because of that, they've been able to generate

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Speaker 1: some turnovers. The big question Matt question mark for the

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Speaker 1: Bears is the quarterback justin fields. There's some that believe

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Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to be a franchise quarterback for

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Speaker 1: a long time. There are others that are cool on him,

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Speaker 1: suggesting that he doesn't read defenses, that he's leaning on

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Speaker 1: his athleticism and playmaking ability. Well, now that you drafted

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Speaker 1: him and you're the Bears, you gotta figure out the

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Speaker 1: way the best deploy him. And if that means using

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Speaker 1: him as a or more still mixing in some throws,

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Speaker 1: didn't do that. If that means he has to throw

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Speaker 1: it twenty times and and run it on occasion, then

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Speaker 1: you have to do that. The thing that we know

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Speaker 1: he's extreme talent. Now it's on the coaches to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to cultivate that talent and fitted within the

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Speaker 1: system that will play to his strengths and minimize some

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Speaker 1: of his weaknesses as a player. Yeah, and i''ll flip

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Speaker 1: it over here to Washington, and a lot has been made.

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Speaker 1: The big storyline has been you know, Ron Rivera asked

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Speaker 1: about what the difference between where they are in this

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Speaker 1: division and everybody else, and he offered the one word explanation,

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Speaker 1: which was quarterback, which completely through Carson wentz under the bus.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of issues with this team outside of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Carson is a little bit of a roller

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Speaker 1: coaster player. We we knew that you got to ride

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Speaker 1: the wave with him. Um. But when I look at

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball and I look at

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Speaker 1: a team that has one interception, a team that has

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Speaker 1: one forced fumble, which forced fumbles to me, are kind

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Speaker 1: of a hustle stat and it's a it's an effort thing.

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Speaker 1: It's it's always being conscious of where the ball is

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Speaker 1: and an effort try and get the ball out. It's

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Speaker 1: it's to me, it's a sign of a defense that's

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Speaker 1: playing really really hard. When you're not getting in a

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Speaker 1: position to make interceptions, you've got one force fumble, like

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Speaker 1: this is supposed to be Ron Rivera's baby on that

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. That's that to me is probably

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Speaker 1: the most disappointing thing, a heck of a lot more

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Speaker 1: disappointed than anything Carson Wentz has or hasn't done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunately hear throw the quarterback under the bus. Because

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Speaker 1: when you're a defensive head coach, the number one thing

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Speaker 1: that has to be right the defense because that's your baby,

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Speaker 1: that's your level of expertise. This defense does not dominate

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Speaker 1: the way that the defense needs to dominate for this

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Speaker 1: team to be a vible contended in the NFC East,

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Speaker 1: they have to get after the quarterback. You have to

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Speaker 1: knock them around. They have to force bumbles. The only

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Speaker 1: way that you typically can do that you gotta win

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Speaker 1: on early downs. That that requires the run game, the

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Speaker 1: run defense to be on point. So you went on

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Speaker 1: early down as your forced me to throw along. You'red

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Speaker 1: the situations on second and third down. You have a

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Speaker 1: chance to control and really suffocate the opposing offense. But

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Speaker 1: they don't do that, and they're frustrating because they don't

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Speaker 1: play hard while you're seeing them do that. And look, man,

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Speaker 1: the offense has almost set of issues with cars and

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out who he's throwing to the rhythm,

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Speaker 1: how to work with the play called the Scott Turner,

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Speaker 1: all those things. They are expected to be a work

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Speaker 1: in progress. But right now, Ron Rivera has to be

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Speaker 1: all on this defense because his defense is the most

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Speaker 1: underachieving unit on the squad right now, no doubt. Reminder,

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Speaker 1: you can watch the Commanders versus the Bears on Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night Football eight fifteen Eastern Time on Prime Video, also

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Speaker 1: available on NFL Plus. Buck. I want to get to

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Speaker 1: before we wrap this thing up. I want to just

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Speaker 1: go quickly here, um and go through the last place

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Speaker 1: teams in every division, and you just give me a

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Speaker 1: thumbs up or a thumbs down, like are they alive

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Speaker 1: or is this over for them? Let's let's let's roll

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Speaker 1: through this. Let's start in the a f C, a

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Speaker 1: FC East and New England Patriots or two and three?

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Speaker 1: What what's your what's your take on them? No, it's

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Speaker 1: not over for them, just because I'm willing to bid

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Speaker 1: on Bill Belichick trying to find a way to mess

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Speaker 1: up games that gives his team a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're a high end playoff team. But

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Speaker 1: I do believe with some scheming he is able to

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Speaker 1: kind of keep this team on the verge of postseason contentions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there are five hundred a little above two

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Speaker 1: and three right now. I think they're alive. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they have a chance of winning this division, but

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Speaker 1: I do think they are alive as the season goes along,

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Speaker 1: UM will follow them as we go. Here. The Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 1: I can answer that one. First, I think they're dead.

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Speaker 1: They're one and four. I don't doubt the kind of

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Speaker 1: championship medal of this organization. But you're playing with a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, you're missing t J. Watt. It's not it's

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Speaker 1: a terrible offensive line. Uh. You know they're in a

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Speaker 1: division with you know, three good football teams. I would

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Speaker 1: say the Pittsburgh Steelers are cooked. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: it's done deal. I think once they win to Kenney Pickett,

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Speaker 1: I think that was Mike Tomlin kind of waving the

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Speaker 1: white flag on this season, trying to get the young smiles,

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Speaker 1: get him rest with the ones, see what he can do.

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Speaker 1: Then you two build an offense around the talent that

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Speaker 1: he displays. But right now it still is just are

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Speaker 1: in the middle of an identity crisis. They don't really

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Speaker 1: know who they are because they don't have the person

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Speaker 1: nailed to be who they've always been. You explain this

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Speaker 1: one to me. I would say that the the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans are cooked after seeing him the week before. You

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Speaker 1: saw him, but you saw him last week and you know, look,

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Speaker 1: he appears a good player. I saw that in the

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Speaker 1: Charge game. You saw that in the Jags game. But

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Speaker 1: I would have said they're cooked. But they went They

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Speaker 1: beat the Jacks, who I saw in person with you there,

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Speaker 1: and the Jags were playing good football at that point time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to make in the Houston Texas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it, but I do.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'll make him. They're the equivalent of playing

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin in the n C Double A Tournament if you're

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Speaker 1: not ready for the slowdown style that they can employ.

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Speaker 1: If you allow them where they're just running the ball,

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Speaker 1: squatting on the ball, playing Tampa two, not allowing you

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball over their head, it can be

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Speaker 1: a long, frustrating game. Now, every game they've been in

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Speaker 1: has been a one score game. They had won one

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Speaker 1: until they knocked up the Jaguars. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: see this team as a playoff team. I just see

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Speaker 1: this team as a team you look down on the

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Speaker 1: schedu like, oh man, we gotta play these guys this week.

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Speaker 1: It's just because the game is so muddy, it makes

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Speaker 1: it hard to get a rid of. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think they are playoff team. No, I'm with you. Raiders.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about earlier in the show

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Speaker 1: one and four. We're on the same page. And they're

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Speaker 1: not dead yet. Right in terms of the postseason. They've

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Speaker 1: been in every game. I think they've lost four games

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Speaker 1: by four team points or something like that, So they

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Speaker 1: they've been there. I think we're in an agreement, aren't we.

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Speaker 1: They're still alive. Yeah, we're good. We're good on the

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Speaker 1: let's flip over the NFC NFC East the Commanders. Uh

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Speaker 1: that goose is cooked for me? You, Oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a done deal. That's a done deal. Before I didn't

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Speaker 1: like the way they played now, don't like the interaction

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Speaker 1: between the coach and the players, particularly as it goes

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Speaker 1: through the media. Yeah, I don't think there's any way

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Speaker 1: this team gets off to Matt. Yeah, they may win

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Speaker 1: a few games, but they will not called their way

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Speaker 1: back into playoff continuous. Yeah, I heard I've heard people

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Speaker 1: talk about before, like if you have chaos in your

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Speaker 1: personal life, then chaos can carry over into your professional life.

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Speaker 1: And this organization has just had so much chaos. I

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Speaker 1: think you've seen some of that chaos kind of carry

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Speaker 1: over into the field. And that's where you have yourself

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Speaker 1: with a one in four record there, I don't see

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Speaker 1: them going anywhere. The Detroit Lions maybe the most entertaining

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Speaker 1: one and four team. I feel weird saying this. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're going anywhere. They're not winning anything this year.

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Speaker 1: But the Detroit Lions have been watchable outside of the

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Speaker 1: egg they laid last week against the Patriots. Yeah, outside

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Speaker 1: of the Patriots game. This is a team that have

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Speaker 1: been playing really well, particularly on offense. Offensively, they will

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Speaker 1: lead the league in a handful of categories, right near

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Speaker 1: to the top of the league and that and then

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Speaker 1: they go and play the Patriots and everything comes to

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Speaker 1: a screeching hall. So now this is where I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at Dan Campbell to see if you can do a

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Speaker 1: great job getting this team back on track. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: offense about back, bounced back because they're talented. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the defense. Can Patrick Ram can't they get the

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Speaker 1: defense to play right? There's to be a question for me.

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Speaker 1: Forty three more points in the Green Bay Packers this year,

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Speaker 1: that's uh, that's how the Detroit Lions offense has performed.

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Speaker 1: They put up a hundred and forty points the Packers

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Speaker 1: and only put up ninety seven. Unfortunately, the Lions defense

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Speaker 1: has let them down throughout this young season. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers one in four and I'm gonna say, I'm

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Speaker 1: mean to say Erring Glenn, Erring Glenn on defense not patching.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, I say, Patrick Eng, Yeah, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you a pass on that one. Let's go

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers one and four. Coaches gone have been hurt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh, you will hear about in the comics.

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Speaker 1: You're you're out of a job. They're not going anywhere. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm out of the Panthers because I don't know where

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Speaker 1: they go from there. I don't know what they do.

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Speaker 1: They're playing decent defense, you know. Offensively, you don't have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. You have a lot of frustrated scale players,

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Speaker 1: how they can get the ball. You got p J.

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Speaker 1: Tucker West to start next maybe two to three games.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they go. And so it's unfortunately

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Speaker 1: the team that we thought I would have a chance

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Speaker 1: to compete for a playoff birth But yeah, that's all done.

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks two and three. We talked about Gino a

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Speaker 1: little bit earlier. This is the division. It's all bunched

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Speaker 1: up together. You've got the three and two Niners and

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Speaker 1: then the Rams, Cardinals, and Seahawks all at two and three.

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Speaker 1: So I guess I should say Seattle, Arizona, the Rams

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Speaker 1: um all three of those teams. They mean look to

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Speaker 1: me for Arnshire playing uh, you know, playing great defense,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think they're gonna run away with this division.

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Speaker 1: Are the Rams, Cardinals, and Seahawks all still alive? Buck?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah? They all are still alive,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know if anyone is going to be

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Speaker 1: able to run away. As much as I love what

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners are doing, I worry about injuries catching

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Speaker 1: up with them. We saw a handful of guys, uh

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Speaker 1: go off the field in the last game. You don't

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Speaker 1: know how long those guys are going to be out

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