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Speaker 1: To be Around the NFL podcast covers kickers more than

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Speaker 1: most college scouts. Welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, presented by Dijor No. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansas, and I'm joined on a boat that's filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Roseltal. What

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Speaker 1: is up, toys? Hey, dam look at us? How about us?

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Speaker 1: Are you listening? Roger? Are you listening? Commission? Are you proud?

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Speaker 1: We're spending your money? We're on a boat. We're here

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Speaker 1: in Miami. We got nothing else to do. We are

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Speaker 1: on beautiful Miami Canal. You do not know if that

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Speaker 1: is the Miami River Canal. It is my beautiful Miami River.

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Speaker 1: Uh taping our first show from Miami, super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 1: four coming up in a few days. And uh and

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Speaker 1: and Erica, our wonderful producer who put this together. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're a marvel. Yeah you know. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Jane Slater. Her brother Tom works for port to Stella,

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Speaker 1: which is helping putting on this whole event all Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl week and they hooked it up and it's so sick. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's collect seems like it would have been an opportune

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Speaker 1: time to have Jane on as a guest, considering that

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Speaker 1: her family member got us this speed book. Yeah, she

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Speaker 1: wasn't available. A little bit of a missed op potentially.

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Speaker 1: But uh, anyway, did I mentioned that this podcast is

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Speaker 1: stocked up pizza for the big Game? Uh? There we go.

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Speaker 1: That's what super Bowl is about in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: It's America. It's about corporate, corporate structure, it's about ad reads.

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Speaker 1: But it's also west about football, isn't it? Family friends? Football?

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Speaker 1: And did your very good? Very good? So today's show

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Speaker 1: this is our second boat show. Actually we did one

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Speaker 1: on Teams a couple of years ago in London and

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Speaker 1: that was nice. But now this is way better. I

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest. The vibe is is decidedly different here Mark,

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Speaker 1: where in Miami. We're in Miami. We have like high rise,

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Speaker 1: like sleek high rise buildings around us. Um, A bunch

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Speaker 1: various countries. Standard our hotel beautiful And you've been very

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Speaker 1: clear to point out that both the men and the

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Speaker 1: is extremely attractive people being piped into our I meant

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Speaker 1: I think this should be our thing, doing my audio

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Speaker 1: to understand going under a fruay At the moment, a

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Speaker 1: fun experience and we love to mix things up. We

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Speaker 1: if a manatee jumps up and kills Mark, it's just

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Speaker 1: ultimately the way we all expect. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: an incredible way to go. How are you doing Mark

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Speaker 1: in Miami? I know the city with all its glitz

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Speaker 1: I wore the number twenty four in high school like

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Speaker 1: who has been far better than the offensive lines or

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Speaker 1: the running games are basically anything that Tom Talsco has

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Speaker 1: surrounded him. But I think it's telling too, and it's

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Speaker 1: concerning for the entire Chargers organization the lack of Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers buzz compared to Eli Manning because the fan base

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Speaker 1: does not exist right. But Ian made it clear they're

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Speaker 1: considering franchise tagging him, and his wording was he made

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Speaker 1: it sound like they're they're probably ready to move on,

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Speaker 1: but they want to make sure they can do better,

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Speaker 1: and they're not really sure what they are. They could

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Speaker 1: get behind door number two, so they're not totally closing

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Speaker 1: the books on Rivers. They have the number six pick,

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Speaker 1: though that is not too far away from either moving

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Speaker 1: up for Tua or just drafting a quarterback of their own.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of fading borderline Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: is also a free agent. Uh to be Where is

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Speaker 1: he right on your list? Uh? He is first, No,

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Speaker 1: he's nine, He's right behind Breeze, He's right behind Breeze.

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana did uh an interview sit down with our

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Speaker 1: own Mike Silver, and of course Montana is, well, he's

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Speaker 1: always at the forefront of you know, this week because

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Speaker 1: he's Joe freaking Montana, but this this week, and he'll

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Speaker 1: make the media rounds, and you always see Joe around

449
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Speaker 1: uh this time of year and Super Bowl week and

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Speaker 1: Joe tell us a little bit more about flowers. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you he's also he's got his own

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Speaker 1: brand of sketchers, I believe. But these are his two

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Speaker 1: former teams, of the forty Niners where he had all

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Speaker 1: of his glory and the Chiefs, of course, where he

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Speaker 1: played his final two seasons. And Uh, Mike Silver asked

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Speaker 1: Montana about that process of going from a place the

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Speaker 1: only place you've ever known, to kind of starting fresh,

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Speaker 1: and Montana was very honest talking about how difficult it was.

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Speaker 1: Asked specifically what advice he'd give to Brady. Um Montana

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Speaker 1: about the possibility of leaving the Patriots and signing with

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Speaker 1: another team. Montana smiled and said, don't if you don't

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Speaker 1: have to. It's a process to go through and it

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Speaker 1: takes time to get used to the team. Um. He

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Speaker 1: also said he has fond memories of his times with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and his offensive coordinator. Uh, Paul Hackett was

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach in San Francisco, which helped the process

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Speaker 1: and and and made it an easier process for him

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Speaker 1: in terms of, uh, you know, a new play book

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Speaker 1: and all that. But it is a reminder that we

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Speaker 1: throw on the cell, where's Tom Brady playing? Oh, I'll

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Speaker 1: go to the Chargers, or I'll go to the Cols

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Speaker 1: or go here. What a gargantuan challenge that would be

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Speaker 1: for Brady. And uh, I'm not gonna change his legacy,

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Speaker 1: but it puts a different ending to his story. And

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Speaker 1: you you can understand even Greg, a guy like Brady

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Speaker 1: who is long professed his wish to play until he's

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Speaker 1: in his mid forties, he would have to probably swallow

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Speaker 1: hard before actually deciding to leave New England. I think

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Speaker 1: hearing Joe Montana, his childhood heroes opinion on it actually

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Speaker 1: could hold some weight because whoever is He's one of

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Speaker 1: the only guys who's ever been in that sort of situation.

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Speaker 1: I thought, if you really listen to what Brady said

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Speaker 1: the last time he spoke, and it's not a surprise

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Speaker 1: he wants I think he wants to stay in New England.

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Speaker 1: I think the question is he's not sure if they

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Speaker 1: want to keep him. It's that's that's the bigger question

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Speaker 1: to me. It's not whether he wants to leave. I

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Speaker 1: think he would leave if he has to. It's really

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Speaker 1: if they want to keep him when they meaning Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Because Robert Craft has made it clear the plan is

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Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is wanted. Doesn't make you, It makes

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Speaker 1: me wonder. The worst case scenario here is that it

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Speaker 1: causes friction and um schism between Craft and Belichick. That's

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Speaker 1: like the worst case in area for a Patriots fan

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Speaker 1: and the best case scenario for basically every other human

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Speaker 1: that is interested. It's one reminder that like we're heading

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Speaker 1: into this free agency period that is going to receive

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Speaker 1: more hoop lah than ever before unless this stuff is

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Speaker 1: sewn up quickly. Because of these quarterbacks we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I I don't really think that it's a great idea

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Speaker 1: for any one of them to suddenly start over in

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Speaker 1: their late thirties and forties in and with another team.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like you're getting the final year or

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Speaker 1: two of Tom Brady on the Chargers. What's how is

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Speaker 1: that going to play out? Right? And I know we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it, but it really struck me that no

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Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history had thrown for more than yards

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Speaker 1: in their age forty two season before BA. There basically

509
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Speaker 1: had never been a quarterback that was a starter for

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Speaker 1: an entire year until Brady last season. So he was

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Speaker 1: by far the greatest forty two year old quarterback of

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Speaker 1: all time. And it's just like, it's just kind of

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Speaker 1: like why, why would you expect him to keep breaking

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Speaker 1: these boundaries at the highest levels. It's just a lot

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Speaker 1: to expect. And you know, speaking of Kobe Bryant, you

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Speaker 1: know everybody you know, certainly I am, and I know

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Speaker 1: you guys probably are too. Are reading a lot about

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Speaker 1: his career in retrospectives and all that, and uh, what's

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Speaker 1: his name, wobomb the ESPN Adrian Wojanowski. Uh, he wrote

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Speaker 1: a piece he he knew Brian quite well, and he

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Speaker 1: reflected on his encounters with him through the years and

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Speaker 1: including near the end of Bryant's career. He like Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: spent you know, twenty years with one team, and he

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Speaker 1: remembers a conversation uh with Brian where he was saying

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Speaker 1: he was certain that Lakers management was looking to buy

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Speaker 1: him out of his contract and use that amnesty clause

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Speaker 1: that the NBA teams can use to get out from

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Speaker 1: under uh ugly veteran contracts. And it never came to fruition.

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Speaker 1: But it just reminds me, as you're talking about this, Greg,

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Speaker 1: how you know these things that they get tricky at

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Speaker 1: the end when the player is this veteran and he's

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Speaker 1: a legend and he's getting paid a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: but he's no longer helping a team like he once did.

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Speaker 1: It just becomes a tricky suit are ration for all parties.

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Speaker 1: Alright now, media night opening that we talked about it

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Speaker 1: with Kobe and how that was a major topic. Any

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Speaker 1: other kind of takeaways from Media night, Greg, I'll start

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Speaker 1: with you on this. Well, let's think I like the

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Speaker 1: little bit that Kyle Shanahan talked about where they asked

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Speaker 1: him when he puts in the first fifteen play script

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Speaker 1: that has sort of become famous, you know, from Bill Walsh,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Sanahan's a fairly direct descendant through his father,

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan from Bill Walsh. You know, the Fame fifteen

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Speaker 1: play script of what they're gonna do at the start

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Speaker 1: of the game, and they asked in Um, I think

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Speaker 1: it was one of our guys. It might have been

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Speaker 1: Don that asked him about it, and he said, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll probably put it in like either late Friday night

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Speaker 1: or Saturday morning. And that was you know too, Dn.

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Speaker 1: That was a surprising answer. And I think it's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: They put in the entire game plan last week. You know,

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Speaker 1: they they have all the plays that they possibly could

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Speaker 1: run in the game. But Shanahan kind of like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what we would do as students or we

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Speaker 1: do for our podcast. He waits a little bit till

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Speaker 1: the last minute, and then what wants to see what

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Speaker 1: he's feeling is the right moment to do it, and

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Speaker 1: then he puts it in. And and there are many

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Speaker 1: good reasons I think for that. Now I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he thinks it's the best way to do it to

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Speaker 1: wait until the end. And so maybe it's not getting stale,

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't get stuck too much, you know, and

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Speaker 1: that I have to do this, or that he sees

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Speaker 1: how the plays go during the weekend. It keeps like

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Speaker 1: the whole thing a little fresh going into the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and coaches are creatures of a routine. He's used to

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Speaker 1: join that every Friday night during the season. When Bill

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Speaker 1: Walsh first started this, wrote about this in Ohio River Offense,

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Speaker 1: he met with Paul Brown on Saturday mornings to go

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Speaker 1: over the openers because he was working on them on

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Speaker 1: Friday nights. That's I think that comes from the Bill

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Speaker 1: Walls Street. I think it's also a communication with your

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Speaker 1: star quarterback, with your team in general that if you

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Speaker 1: put out like if we when we plan our show,

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Speaker 1: if it's a Thursday show and we try to hammer

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Speaker 1: it on a Wednesday morning, we're gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: forty text messages about changes. We have new information right

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Speaker 1: and it's like, why not almost wait till the last minute.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Niners the most as much information as

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Speaker 1: you have, and when you give those plays and you

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Speaker 1: share it, it's as clear and it doesn't change. Maybe

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Speaker 1: everyone note knew this kind of thing already, but it

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Speaker 1: was it was a rare thing from Opening night that

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Speaker 1: seemed like new and different. I don't know my one

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Speaker 1: thing I thought Andy Reid talking about players saying that

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Speaker 1: he's still coming up right now hand drawing up new

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Speaker 1: plays that they've never even used to take into the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We've got so much extra time. We're going

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Speaker 1: back fifteen games with the forty Niners and we're we're

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Speaker 1: doing all this crazy like using all that time. And

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Speaker 1: I always, like, you always worry about the teams that

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Speaker 1: they start to do too much. You know, just do

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Speaker 1: what you normally do. George Kittle got a riser and

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Speaker 1: he acknowledged I thought this was not so subtle. Flex

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Speaker 1: he waited to share this until he was on the

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Speaker 1: riser at Opening night at the Super Bowl. He's played

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Speaker 1: with a torn labor ham since two thousand eighteen. Now

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Speaker 1: that's a man. Well yeah, I mean it's impressive, but

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Speaker 1: also obviously has not been a major factor in his

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Speaker 1: play because he's playing with more physicality after the catch

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Speaker 1: than any tight end in the NFL. He's blocking as

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Speaker 1: well as any tight end in the NFL. He was

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Speaker 1: the first team All Pro by war. I think PFF

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Speaker 1: had him graded as like one of the highest. He

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Speaker 1: was their best player in the NFL this season. Was

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Speaker 1: was George, were you questioning Dan his manhood? Like before this?

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Speaker 1: This is what it took to certainly not. But it's

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Speaker 1: just next level stuff. And you have to go to

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Speaker 1: the Shield softball team. And when you see Chris westling,

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Speaker 1: you know, playing seventeen games on a bad shoulder, uh,

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Speaker 1: it reminds me of uh Joe Namath having a tape

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Speaker 1: his leg from his ankle to his hip just to

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Speaker 1: get on the field. That's West slinging the ball over

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Speaker 1: to skip at first base. Had a cold. At one

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Speaker 1: point during that season, I delt was some yeah, some issues,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and of head called I'll never forget West

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Speaker 1: taking himself out of the championship game to give me

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Speaker 1: a little more plain time, because because he thought that

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Speaker 1: was what was best for the little bit of a

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Speaker 1: sneaky hero boy move though I want to play, but

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Speaker 1: for his made for TV movie, well, I appreciated a

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Speaker 1: few extra innings. It was like I got on base.

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Speaker 1: Every bad joke had to come in. Shook needed some

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Speaker 1: plain time, and it was coming in for Greg, and

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Speaker 1: I just said, we need Greg's defense out there in

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Speaker 1: right field, take me out attention for got on base

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Speaker 1: every single time if you want to us right, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was, I was a waiting for the humble on

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Speaker 1: the phone was the legit one? We got breaking news here? Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's on the phone. He's turning. I almost looks he's

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Speaker 1: turning the boat around while he's talking. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like talking, but I shuddered to it's a really say.

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Speaker 1: I mean this my good friend Mike father's fouley. His

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Speaker 1: family came from Cuba. So many of so many people

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Speaker 1: in a city came from Cuba and are probably thinking

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Speaker 1: of their families, like at the seven point seven earthquake,

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Speaker 1: is in an insane number that I don't want to

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Speaker 1: find out. What's what we're gonna find out when we

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Speaker 1: get back Dan. Dan is very concerned about this phone

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Speaker 1: called wait, can you hand Captain Spiros of the microseconds?

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Speaker 1: Captain Spiros, can we get your comment? I saw you

642
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Speaker 1: were just on the phone. Is everything okay? Nothing to

643
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Speaker 1: be worried about? Was about the captain Captain's bres of

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Speaker 1: the Van Dutch a hero talk about a real man?

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Speaker 1: All right? How to turn the boat on that? Oh? Also,

646
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: Katie sours. The woman who's the Niners coach chief's tattoo scandal.

647
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: She's from Kansas and it was I read that it

648
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Speaker 1: was a tattoo of the of the Kansas City skyline.

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00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: And she actually played, unlike some people on this show,

650
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: played foot all herself at a professional level in hero ball.

651
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: Don't you don't need to tell us why she should

652
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: be a coach. She's certainly qualified. But I'm just talking

653
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: about the skin or just simply uh. She she said,

654
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Speaker 1: you know, she's she's a proud Kansas City and all right, well,

655
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: if the Niners lose, you'll know she got more, you know,

656
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: from the people there. She got more people around here

657
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: probably than just about anyone at at opening night. It

658
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Kyle say Inahan brought her from Atlanta,

659
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Speaker 1: where she was also. I also liked hearing that my

660
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Speaker 1: guy Tom Brady. You know, it was congratulating Jimmy g

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Speaker 1: People forget Jimmy. She's got two Super Bowl rings to

662
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Speaker 1: the Bowl and ming. He just wanted to be in

663
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: the news cycle this week. He's probably annoyed that that became.

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00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Dante Scarnecki is out as offensive coordinator. They say he's retired,

665
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: but I think he was quietly fired by Bill Bill.

666
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Why would he Why would this future Hall of Fame,

667
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: first assistant coach to make the Hall of Fame ever

668
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Speaker 1: get thrown out? Disasters? Right now, you lose scar Neck.

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Speaker 1: You understand a pure mendacity to feel little panics. Greig

670
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Speaker 1: and the in the in the ride over here towards

671
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Speaker 1: the boat, you were claiming that it just doesn't matter,

672
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: and you're fine with the Patriots has covered more Super

673
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Speaker 1: Bowls than the Jets and Browns have ever been in

674
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: by a factor of five. Do you need to go

675
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: in that beautiful time? It's a great time. I'm fine

676
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: with twenty years total darkness. Right, it's been. It's just

677
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: we've been to one combined. You've been to one combined.

678
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: While I was trying to do the math, how many

679
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Speaker 1: have we covered for the Patriots? Five? I think five

680
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Speaker 1: reals and live of six. Yeah, not anymore though, it's

681
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Speaker 1: over all right, And finally, let's give the last word

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Speaker 1: from Media Night. I'm sorry Opening Night they rebranded in

683
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: a few years back. I struggled with that Richard Irman,

684
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: who's obviously one of the more thoughtful um NFL players,

685
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: and he's a Los Angeles native, so of course he

686
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: was gonna be asked about Kobe. Let's let's hear what

687
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Sherman had to say. Well, he meant a lot. He

688
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: meant a lot to everyone, you know. He he meant

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Speaker 1: a lot to the city of l a And he's

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Speaker 1: he's a tremendous idol. Like I said, there's not enough

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Speaker 1: praise I can give him. There's not enough words in

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Speaker 1: my vernacular, in my vocabulary to give him the praise

693
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: and the respect that he deserves. Um. But but he

694
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Speaker 1: deserves every inch, every every ounce of respect, every ounce

695
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Speaker 1: of gratitude. And and he gave me a ton of inspiration.

696
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure he inspired millions and billions and trillions other kids.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's no limited impact he's had on

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Speaker 1: my city and and on cities around the world. Extremely

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Speaker 1: well put, all right, that's what's happening in the news.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to it. The sinkers. We're on the boat,

701
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: so sinker swim narratives nailed it of Super Bowl fifty four. Um,

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00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: I asked you guys to kind of throw out some

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Speaker 1: storylines that you've seen pop thing up over the last

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Speaker 1: week or so. And I don't know whether you agree

705
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Speaker 1: with the narrative or you're here to debunk it, But

706
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: they are narratives. You seem like the narrative guy. I

707
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: have a couple, but I want I want to just

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Speaker 1: see you guys up Mark. You seem like the type

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Speaker 1: of guy. In fact, I know you to be the

710
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: type of guy who you exist mostly to just shoot

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Speaker 1: down things. So I'm gonna assume you're not going to

712
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Speaker 1: agree with either of these. Here's the first one. Everyone

713
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: assumes a shootout is on tap and super Bowl fu Well,

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Speaker 1: I know, so what even my own prediction for somewhere

715
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Speaker 1: on our website. Try to go find that somewhere. It

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Speaker 1: was like forty because it's just like the first thing

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Speaker 1: that came to mind. Like, of course you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: say now, are you know? So? I mean, are you

719
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Speaker 1: trying to say that they don't promote the super Bowl

720
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Speaker 1: predictions piece because that probably gets promoted just because you

721
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: haven't checked that NFL dot com. It's not the main

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Speaker 1: point of this and this is not the day. Would

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Speaker 1: you like me to answer this question? We just gonna

724
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Speaker 1: go off into forty two different verbal rivulets before I

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Speaker 1: give you my answer. This is this is not the day,

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Speaker 1: re rivulet I love it. I would. I would point

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Speaker 1: to this number one that last year, at this time,

728
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Speaker 1: we were coming out of an a f C championship

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00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: that was a shootout between the Chiefs and Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: with a Rams team that everyone just assumed would score.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone, but that was sort of this this who

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Speaker 1: knows what could happen in this thing? That's that's my case.

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Speaker 1: Number eight, This game could be seven, This game could

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Speaker 1: be twenty three. That I don't I just don't assume

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Speaker 1: you could be a blowout, but I think it could

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Speaker 1: be a blowout. Number one, I don't assume that both

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna drop fifty points on each other. That's

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Speaker 1: a good point that Mark raises a good point. The

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks with the highest points per game in NFL

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Speaker 1: history probably are gonna have a low scoring game. I'm

741
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Speaker 1: just kidding the scientists turing on another listen. I'm not

742
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: saying this it's a narrative because it's partially logical. But

743
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: last year, not not a single person was talking about

744
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: are you supporting that this will be a high scool game.

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00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: It's it's it's de funking in process. Because I am

746
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: I am upset with myself for picking for forty. It

747
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: seems too boring and predictable. And this Mark is the

748
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: wrong day to get on NFL dot com promotionally because

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Speaker 1: I went to their homepage just today and right there

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Speaker 1: on the headline stack as they call it, Cessler Cole

751
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: and why I want Jamis Kama Lamar to win a title?

752
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Speaker 1: You know, listen, I believe that with all my heart.

753
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: With all my heart, I believe that column I read time.

754
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Speaker 1: I mean when I when I think of Mark's attachment

755
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: and support of Tamos Winston over the years, just like

756
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: the the energy that he's invested finally wanting him to

757
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: get over the top. It's nice to see that getting

758
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: promoted as one of the biggest, very natural storyline country.

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Speaker 1: They asked me to pick. It was people that I

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00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: like to see make the super off that in there,

761
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: and tell me it would not be intriguing to see

762
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston with some other team get into this. I like,

763
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Speaker 1: why I want Jamis Kama Lamar to win a title.

764
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Speaker 1: I can't. I don't, I don't, I don't believe. I

765
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Speaker 1: feel like I've been honking about Jamison this podcast for

766
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: four years and all you do is dismiss him. I

767
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: can change my mind occasionally. West. Here's a narrative that

768
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: you threw out there, Jimmy G equals Bob Greasy, debunk

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Speaker 1: or support. Give me a break with this one. We're

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Speaker 1: debunking it. What are you talking about? First of all,

771
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Speaker 1: there was only one quarterback this year to finish in

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Speaker 1: the top five of completion percentage, yards per yards per attempt,

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: and touchdown passes, and that was Jimmy G. This was

774
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: not all running. He's twenty three and five as a

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Speaker 1: starter under Kyle Shanahan. The other forty quarterbacks under Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan are three and twenty, so he has an eight

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Speaker 1: twenty winning percentage, the highest in NFL history. All other

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners quarterbacks have a one sixty seven

779
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Speaker 1: winning percentage under Kyle Shanahan. What happened when Bob Greazy

780
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Speaker 1: got injured in nineteen two is back up Earl Morrow

781
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: at nine and oh and one, first team All Pro

782
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: because he could do the same job Bob Greasy could do.

783
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: The Forts quarterbacks can't do the same job. Jimmy G's

784
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Speaker 1: do one. Give me a break with this narrage. Nothing

785
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: about Jimmy G's skill sets suggest the team doesn't totally

786
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: trust him. They totally trust him, And I do think

787
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: that it was interesting to hear Kurt Warner talk about

788
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: it on NFL Number Today that if you know, you

789
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: look at these game plans in these scripts, that if

790
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner back in the day with the Rams as

791
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: a young starter, was told you're gonna be throwing the

792
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: ball probably eight or nine times and a half in

793
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that he would totally revolt that that

794
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: quarterbacks he want. If you're Jimmy G, you want to

795
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: throw the ball times, no matter what you tell anyone else.

796
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Speaker 1: And he's had money on third downs too, He's been

797
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: a great third These two games are pretty random. There

798
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: are almost no other games they had I'll see is

799
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: in that were quite like this. With that said, I

800
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: do think, for instance, in the wasn't the Vikings game

801
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: after he made the interception and then they you know,

802
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: went pretty run heavy. I think they totally trust Jimmy G.

803
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: But I think Kyle Shanahan knows how good his defense is,

804
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: how good his running game is, and that Jimmy G.

805
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: Mistakes is the riskiest thing they have because he makes

806
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, He takes a lot of sacks,

807
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: he fumbles the ball lot, right, I'm just saying that

808
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: that he is the highest variants of of really great

809
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: team and he's facing a quarterback who's not only makes

810
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: way more big plays and is more talented, but makes

811
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Speaker 1: way way fewer mistakes. So if he can keep a

812
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: lid under Jimmy g like you could, you could trust

813
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: your quarterback, which Kyle Shanahan I believe does, but also

814
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: know that you're running game should be the motor against

815
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: certain teams depending on the game plan, as they were

816
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: in the two points. This sets up that way. I mean,

817
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense is about as imbalanced, you know, when

818
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: you look at the efficiency pass versus run as almost

819
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: any defense in the league. They're a really good past defense,

820
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: pretty deep secondary, you know, solid pass rush, good scheme

821
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: against the past, and a terrible run defense. Like it's

822
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: very similar to the last couple of ones. Chiefs defense

823
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: is better or even above average. Debunk a confirmed lad

824
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: yourself into that trap. I did. I don't think they're

825
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: that much better, and I've been last year then last

826
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: year they're they're a little better, but I watched them

827
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Speaker 1: and I guess I'm putting a lot of stock in

828
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: the two playoff games versus the entire season. They haven't

829
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: played well in the postseason. Everyone looks concerned. Everyone in

830
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: this boat right now is looking very a look at

831
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Speaker 1: a nearby yacht? Is that what we're looking at? What

832
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: is the what? It was just a really beautiful boat,

833
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: and I thought you would like to look at it.

834
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: It was like, I mean, there are people sunning on

835
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Speaker 1: the You used to used to own a boat. You're

836
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Speaker 1: a yacht er, You're but I do I've been driving

837
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Speaker 1: for a word. I don't think so. But I've been

838
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: driving boats since I was twelve. I love them. We're

839
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Speaker 1: in a beautiful and Greg's like, you think I know

840
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: anything about boats? I was like, number, have any context?

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Speaker 1: You know, you're telling me you've been in a more

842
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: beautiful Super Bowl local than this. Come on this what

843
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: we've had for the last half an hour? Everything, I mean,

844
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: the Chief's defense seems point. My point is, are they

845
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: seem entirely beat a ball? And they might be a

846
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: little bit better than they were a year ago, But

847
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: are they above average? I don't think so. They've got

848
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: three good players. Frank Clark Chris Jones, Tyrone Matthew just

849
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: about every every other part of their defense feels like

850
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: a weakness in recent weeks. You go down twenty four nothing,

851
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: you go down seventeen seven. I mean, you are vulnerable.

852
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: But they have the offense that almost makes it non issue.

853
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: On something part of my thought, I mean, when you

854
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: really just like lining up the matchups, I think Kyle

855
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan is looking at this Chief defense and he's loving

856
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: its slicking his chops. He's looking at his chot Like,

857
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: if you just look at the matchups, the forty Niners

858
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: seemed like the better team. Mark Sessler confirm debunk anyone

859
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: on either team talking about not getting enough respect from football.

860
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: What happened to sink or swim anyway? Sink that one?

861
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: That one needs to sen the Miami River because it's

862
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: it's happened a little bit with Richard Sherman. And that's

863
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: not a surprising person to utter these these kinds of

864
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: comments necessarily, but you hear it for a little bit

865
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: on both teams, so you know we're not we're not

866
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: getting the respect we deserve, We're not getting the attention.

867
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: It's like I would just say, though the Niners have

868
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: been glowed over all season and the chiefs of the team.

869
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: Everyone kind of wanted in this position, but from before

870
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: the season. So where is this lack of respect, lack

871
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: of interesting? Maybe Adam Rank picks to go three and

872
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: thirteen people have been really holding Why do you need

873
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: to a co worker and then just drag them off?

874
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Now he's he talks about it more than he loves it.

875
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: He loves it. He talks about it. But when an

876
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: us all right, um West, I thought I did a

877
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: good job there by the way, nicely all right, I'm

878
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: proud of you, uh West swim. Patrick Mahomes is off

879
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: to the very uncomfortable right now, shadowy league figure with

880
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: all the nice boats around us, it's not our fault.

881
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: Nice boats everywhere in Miami. Well, if we're saying worst

882
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: take gets thrown overboard, Greg goes overboard because he's been

883
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: spelling this off for the last few weeks with no

884
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: regard for no regard for perspective, no no regard for

885
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: a wide view of history, no regard for actually the truth,

886
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: which is Patrick Mahomes in his breakout year is great year.

887
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: Fifty touchdowns, five thousand yards a marina did that four

888
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: decades ago in his second season, try buying, Try paying

889
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: prices for a house to You've had six passing revolutions

890
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: since Dan Marino did this for him. That's about the

891
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: equipment of going for sixty five touchdowns in six thousand yards. Now,

892
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: it would blow everyone's mind. It would blow Greg's mind.

893
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: That was the best. Here's my thing that they are

894
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: the only two I think in the conversation. Is not

895
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: far away my homes right, yeah, Kurt Warner, it's tricky,

896
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: he's all he's older, but you're right, is right there.

897
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Mahomes in his first year was

898
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: the m v P was the best player in the league.

899
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: His second year in the NFL, Right, I'm saying first

900
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: two years a starter. I'm not. I'm not. I would

901
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: have counted Aaron Rodgers first two years, which a Marina

902
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: was busy playing and win rookie the year. His second

903
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: year he's the number three quarterback in the league. I

904
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: would put him at So what quarterbacks in their first

905
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: two years would be a top three quarterback those two years. Now,

906
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: another part of it is absolutely that I watched every game,

907
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: like do we respect the football heads opinions? Who just

908
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: watched guys on weekends, you know, or watch players when

909
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: they're in primetime games and in playoff games and makes

910
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: big opinions. I'm not going to have that strong to

911
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: take off of Dan Marino when I really didn't see

912
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: him play. But you're just gonna ignore that he ever happened,

913
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: because now I'm gonna look at the I'm gonna look

914
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: at his second year in terms of he had a

915
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: little less of a year, they would be They would

916
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: be at the league and everything even the next year

917
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: after that. My, you want him to go away because

918
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: it's convenient for your argument, but Dan Marino exists and

919
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: you can't throw him overboard. I'm not, but they would

920
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: be similar. And it also goes to my that quarterbacks

921
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: are better now than they were, like athletes, Like you

922
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: didn't watch Dan Marino that year, so it's like very

923
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: hard to like know how good he really was. Isn't

924
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: this all kind of pointless because haven't we talked on

925
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: this podcast? Its pointless to argue over players in different generations.

926
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm just correcting Greg for refusing any respect to anyone

927
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: who came before Pat I said, all right, he's one

928
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: of At worst, he's one of the top two quarterbacks

929
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: ever in terms of his first two years as starter

930
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: and the physical skill set and the athleticism and every

931
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: else that he has. It's obviously better because athletes are

932
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: better and he's like the next generation like that. This

933
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: is not a hot take, like half a year without

934
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: getting sacked. You're you're bad mouthing his skill set because

935
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: you never really watched him. All right, everybody calmed down. Scientists,

936
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: there's no time for scientists. Shenanigans in the lab. On

937
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: a boat just doesn't make sense. Logically, you can't have

938
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: a I want to throw out a narrative that connects

939
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: to what we just talked about though, which I'm hearing

940
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: a lot of. But people, what is the old line?

941
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: Those who ignore history or doomed to repeat it. You know,

942
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: back in everyone said, oh Dan Reno, you know, he

943
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: got wiped out by the Niners. Coincidentally, he'll be back.

944
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, everyone seems that, you know, Patrick Mahomes is

945
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: on the scene of the Super Bowl, and something tells

946
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: me this isn't gonna be his first bite of the

947
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: apple if you don't know, And it actually speaks to

948
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: a larger point that goes beyond Mahomes or anything. Uh.

949
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: And it's something that's popped up time after time in

950
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: the years covering this sport is that when you get

951
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: to this point, you need to win because the future

952
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: promises nothing. And the history of the NFL is littered

953
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: with teams that thought they were just at the verge

954
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 1: of getting to the mountaintop and even though they didn't

955
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: get there, we'll get there next year. The Atlanta Falcons

956
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: come to mind, the Jacksonville Jaguars come to mind. That's

957
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: just recently. And Cam Newton. Cam Newton, I mean, he

958
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: did win, but he has not been back in the

959
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: decades since. And Mahomes is in a great situation to

960
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: have a long successful run because, like Tom Brady, he

961
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: is on a team that is well run from the

962
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: top down, and you get the feeling that they will

963
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: not let that roster go to rot. And because he's

964
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: so good, he could then feel uh fill in the

965
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: gaps the way Brady once said, However, nothing is promised,

966
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: and you got it's so important that these teams and

967
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: we know that as the famous Damas check ism, is

968
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: just a must win game. Yes, obviously, both teams are

969
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: doing everything in their power to win. The Super Bowl.

970
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: But the team that loses, an old frances is, um,

971
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Chris mad Dog Russo show on Thursday.

972
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: The old frances Lin was. It's there's nothing worse than

973
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: losing in the Super Bowl. You'd rather losing the title

974
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: game and losing the Super Bowl because there are scars

975
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: that come with it. Now, whether you believe in that

976
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: or not is another conversation, but just in general, there

977
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: are no promises win the game. You got here, Oh

978
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: that is true. But if you're in the a f

979
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: C West, don't you have to look at it from

980
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: now on? Is I've got to build my team specifically

981
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: to stop Patrick Mahomes in the division, and they have

982
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: an edge. But Andy Reid. Andy Reid is a great example.

983
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I keep talking about how he's, you know,

984
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: maybe the most influential coach at last twenty years. He

985
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 1: hasn't been in a Super Bowl since fifteen years ago.

986
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: They weren't you know, they lost that one. He has

987
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: not been back since. He's had a lot of good

988
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: teams since then, and he hasn't been able to get back.

989
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, who's coming off you know, when he was

990
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl as a coordinator, one of the

991
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: toughest moments, like you can possibly imagine. He he knows it,

992
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: he said, watching those Mike Shanahan teams for a while.

993
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: You know, as a kid, he didn't think the FC

994
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: was even allowed to win a Super Bowl. He knows

995
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: how precious it is, how brutal it is. That was

996
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: an insane run of dominance by the NFC. I mean,

997
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: I think if you want to look at a group

998
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: of people that faithfully returned to the Super Bowl every year,

999
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: it seems to be us. We're the one guaranteed. Yeah,

1000
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: we do make it every every year. Why until this year?

1001
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: Because you're still there some events that have transpored. I mean,

1002
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: the waters are relatively calm underneath the boat at the moment.

1003
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: Famous last words, my friends, although, like I said, God

1004
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: is under control. That was for the listening. I have

1005
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: streamed out the whole The captain looked back at me

1006
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: with every anybody else want to throw one out there

1007
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: that I haven't touched ont but you definitely want to

1008
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: hit Mark you had. I know. Oh, I'm like a

1009
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: little annoyed that people have dismissed my sandwich proposition from

1010
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: much earlier on in the Mark's holding the microphone handle

1011
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: really tight again. Sorry, but you can see the veins

1012
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: bulging out of your hand. Just how my hands work

1013
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: that it puts everybody on it. I don't do it, Yeah,

1014
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: I knew what I do it this way? Doesn't that

1015
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: put me on it? Do not try to blow up

1016
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: Another of my narratives, this was the one that a

1017
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: player will because are literally throbbing, will miss playing time

1018
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: due to be by an animal. Will a player will

1019
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: be miss playing time at least part of the game

1020
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: due to being attacked by an animal, and there is

1021
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: still an opportunity for that. Miami is a rough and

1022
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: tumble environment. A lot can happen to me, and the

1023
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: out of trees lesson like a like a twenty pound

1024
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: of guana sitting around. It was huge that it was.

1025
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: It was a big guy, and we saw some turkey

1026
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: vultures on the animals. You're right, if this is the

1027
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: city where an animal could take a player out? Is

1028
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: how I'm holding this? Count? Mike Mark brother uh thousand

1029
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: shows together. I guess no idea who we were. Does

1030
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: it count if an animal hurts a player during the

1031
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: week and then they missed the game? Next it was.

1032
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: It was not just in game. I don't believe it

1033
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: was in on the boat next door. Um, how about

1034
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: how about the narrative that liked the forty Niners are

1035
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: old school, Like, give me a break. They're like the

1036
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: most the most modern sort of creative inventive with their

1037
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: running game. That of any team in the league, if

1038
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: any other team could imitate what Kyle Shanahan does, they

1039
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: would do it. No one can do it. He's ahead

1040
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: of the game. It's like, oh, they're old school. This

1041
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: proves that running the football still has a place. Yeah,

1042
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: if you've got Kyle Shanahan, because he's often like people

1043
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: are gonna be doing it's stupid. Yeah, I I hear

1044
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Although it is interesting that the quarterback

1045
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: there with sixteen times or whatever, it's definitely interesting. It's

1046
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: just not old school. I think it bubbled up along

1047
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: with the Titans. You know that this was not the

1048
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: playoff approach we thought we'd get back in last you know,

1049
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: last January or February, when everyone was hiring Kurus to

1050
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: set passing games of fire. Oh, he just was the

1051
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Mohito bar I like that. That was their plan against

1052
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Running down their throat, but they fell into

1053
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: the Packers game plan like they were gonna pass, and

1054
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: then they thought, why are we even passing on these guys?

1055
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: They're not even close? Didn't need to did I mention,

1056
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: by the way, and I'm all mention it again that

1057
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: this wonderful podcast, um aboard Captain Spiros's Ship Around the

1058
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: NFL podcast is presented by did you on the stock

1059
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Speaker 1: up on Dijon no pizza for the big game? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And um we are now I think about too soon

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: head back toward Port and it's time to get ready

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00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: to say goodbye. A reminder once again if you are

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: in the Miami area and you want to see us

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00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: uh live in person talking a little ball and then

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00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: afterwards were of course uh meet and talk with the fans.

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00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Come come on down to the Miami Improv get tickets

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Speaker 1: and um and we'll have a great old time together

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night, eight o'clock showtime correct, yep, eight o'clock

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Speaker 1: tourn Uh any other thoughts. Thursday again will be our

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Speaker 1: proper Super Bowl fifty four preview with our game picks

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Speaker 1: and all that russo as you as you mentioned and

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Speaker 1: the great Mad Dog, Well I was saying a Dan,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, we all I grew up

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Speaker 1: listening with my dad in the car to Mike and

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Speaker 1: the mad Dog hundreds and hundreds of hours, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I told him a couple of times, Hey, we have

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Speaker 1: this guest on or this guest on, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: all a nice experience. I think in his mind he's

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Speaker 1: happy that it's happening. But when I mentioned mad Dog Russo,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh wow, because that goes back, that's deep

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Speaker 1: respects on your podcast. I wonder how many people at

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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: NFL Network would not be there if it were not

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00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: for Mike and the mad Dog. Well they certainly left

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Speaker 1: a huge imprint. And one of their sneered at that.

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Speaker 1: But like I am saying that there are maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: the number is four or five, but it was the engine.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say, yes, Mike and mad Dog were not influential.

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Speaker 1: Greg you Now this time, I'm not saying that I

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Speaker 1: had ever seen. I'm rolling through all the people on

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Speaker 1: our air in my mind. Give me one, gi me.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh my ease. Yeah, that he wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: made it without old mad Dog. You got two of

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Speaker 1: them on this book. Omaris is the one guy in

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Speaker 1: our company that made it without ever tracking Chris Russo,

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Speaker 1: so he he beat the odds. Um any, we're excited

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Speaker 1: for mad Dog and talking more ball and thank you again,

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Speaker 1: uh to this wonderful crew about aboard the Van Dutch

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Speaker 1: led by Captain Spiro's who, despite the threat of a

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Speaker 1: looming natural disaster, never blinked and we thank you for that. Captain,

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Speaker 1: I thank you so much. He's a he's a good man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for having us. Uh. This is part

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Speaker 1: of the Stella fleet, by the way, and if you

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Speaker 1: want to, if you're again in the area Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

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Speaker 1: you could come on down to the Port de Stella

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: and get loose, right, I guess yeah. But they got

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Speaker 1: these boats. We've got some celebrities coming down. I heard

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Speaker 1: Prianka Chopra is gonna be here, Jane Slater is gonna

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Speaker 1: be here. Wait cho We once had a producer who

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Speaker 1: kept promising we were gonna get Prianka on the show,

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Speaker 1: and it never it never happened. It felt a grand

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Speaker 1: failure by that one producer. It fell through. But I

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Speaker 1: did enjoy her song Welcome to My City, Uh, the

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Speaker 1: original intro to Thursday night football people forget. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so check out Port to Selah and you two can

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Speaker 1: be on this awesome. Yeah, this is the best podcast

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Speaker 1: we've ever done. Right, I don't know content wise, I've

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Speaker 1: been like sightseeing and you know, doing my thing on

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Speaker 1: It's It's It's gonna be great and following b a

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Speaker 1: t N podcast on Instagram for all our exploits. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the sun's out and the skies are blue and

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Speaker 1: there's a gentle breason. I'm on the water. I need

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Speaker 1: a drink. So let us begin that process of getting

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Speaker 1: the old Zeuser a little loose himself, Little Dan Handler

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Speaker 1: a little looser signing off for a quiet storm, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, Captain Spiro's and the whole

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Speaker 1: crew of the Von Dutch thank you till Thursday.