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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and

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Speaker 2: Hopes to cease fire in Ukraine are fading fast after

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Speaker 2: days of deadly Russian air strikes. President Trump declaring Vladimir

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Speaker 2: Putin has gone absolutely crazy in response, the Kremlin suggesting

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Speaker 2: Trump maybe suffering an emotional overload.

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Speaker 1: See, I'm hoping that sort of talk from Putin gets

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Speaker 1: Trump all fired up, and he takes it personally, and

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Speaker 1: that makes him want to arm Ukraine because I think

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Speaker 1: that's the right thing to do. I know some of

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Speaker 1: you don't, but him saying yeah, I think Putin's saying

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Speaker 1: I think Trump's suffering from emotional overload. You know, hey,

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Speaker 1: Trump get his angry Putin as you get at Rosie O'Donnell.

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Speaker 3: I find it incredibly troubling that the President having to

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Speaker 3: take it personally is what's required to motivate policy of

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Speaker 1: But it is what it is. I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: So let's do this in chronological order. So last week,

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Speaker 1: the news broke several days after it happened that Trump

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Speaker 1: had told European journalists. While he was in the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: he had said, this isn't my war. We got ourselves

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Speaker 1: entangled in something we shouldn't have been involved with. Now

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Speaker 1: several days after he said it. But a lot a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, including me, to believe that the direction

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be involved. We shouldn't have been involved in this. Ever,

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't be involved in it now. And without the

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Speaker 1: US is a Ukraine is going to be in a

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Speaker 1: but they don't have a lot of the abilities that

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Speaker 1: we have, even no matter how much they step up,

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Speaker 1: especially around intelligence. Now, over the weekend, Trump having pushed

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Speaker 1: this ceasefire. Remember Trump ran on I can solve this

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Speaker 1: in twenty four hours. If you took that literally, then

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Speaker 1: I just I don't understand how people don't get this.

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Speaker 1: He says things like that, that's not what he means. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get what you could say. Well, he said it,

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Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? But he believed he

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Speaker 1: like with a lot of things, he thought, with his

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Speaker 1: two people to come to an agreement. He's pushed Zelensky

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Speaker 1: really hard. He hasn't really pushed Putin. But over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: while Trump's talking about a ceasefire, Putin launched the biggest

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Speaker 4: This.

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Speaker 1: Trump was asked about this yesterday and this is what

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Speaker 5: Not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a lot

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Speaker 5: of people. And I don't know what the hell happened

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Speaker 5: to Putin. I've known him a long time, always gotten

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Speaker 5: along with him. But he's sending rockets into cities and

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Speaker 1: Don't like it at all.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're in the middle of talking and he's tuning

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Speaker 5: rockets into Kiev and other cities. I don't like it

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Speaker 5: at all. Whether what do you want to do about

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised. I'm very surprised. We'll see what we're gonna say,

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Speaker 5: what am I gonna tell you? Well, you're the fake news,

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Speaker 5: aren't you? You're totally fake? Any other questions. I don't

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Speaker 5: He's killing people. And something happened to this guy, and

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Speaker 3: Something happened to this guy. Well, I was tempted to respond,

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Speaker 3: nothing happened to the guy. You never had a relationship

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Speaker 3: with him. He was manipulating you. Grow up. He's just

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Speaker 3: it's it's pretty well documented that during COVID, Putin dug

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Speaker 3: all of the territories that have ever been under Russian sway,

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. So he has changed in that way.

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Speaker 3: But Trump thinking that they were buddies and something crazy

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Speaker 1: He doesn't care. Here's Britt Hume's analysis. He's the senior

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Speaker 4: The President has always had a very odd conception of

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Speaker 4: This is the way Putin has always been. He's always

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Speaker 4: He failed to do that, and he has been spending

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Speaker 4: more intent than ever. He's the same old Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 4: So I hope the president has had a real moment

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Speaker 3: Is Trump surrounded by eighty vance types who are trying

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Speaker 3: He's just a NATO push too far and we just

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Speaker 3: he's actually defending traditional Christianity and the just that whole

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Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal writing today, Trump is tiring of

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Speaker 1: the peace negotiations and is considering abandoning them all together

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Speaker 1: if a final push doesn't work. People familiar with his

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Speaker 1: on his first day in office. It is unclear what

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Speaker 1: would happen if the US retreats from the peace process,

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Speaker 1: and whether Trump would continue to provide military support to Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: That last part is really important. I think us being

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Speaker 1: But we pull, particularly our intelligence. That's huge. Also this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: German Chancellor Fridrick Mertz said that the US, Germany, France

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's use of weapons supplied by Western allies, meaning it

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Speaker 1: Ukraine has only been able to use long range missiles

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Speaker 1: The Biden administration. The Wall Street General reminds US had

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Speaker 1: The White House, when I ask about this, declined to comment.

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Speaker 1: So Trump didn't say, I mean, because Germany doesn't get

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Speaker 1: to say the United States is removing restrictions, right, And

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Speaker 1: they and the Wall Street Journal asks the White House

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Speaker 3: And this is the most common ye White House in history.

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Speaker 3: They comment on everything. It's incredibly transparent.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah. Two things.

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Speaker 3: Number one that would indicate to me that that they

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I hope you're right. Germany has

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Speaker 1: got the longest range missiles that they're supplying Ukraine, even

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Speaker 1: more so than ours. Right, because Biden didn't want to

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Speaker 1: give them missiles. They could shoot very far in case

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Speaker 1: go way into Russia, easily into Moscow, and they have

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Speaker 1: said shoot, shoot wherever you gotta shoot. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, that is a huge thing going forward, if I

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Speaker 3: might unleash this screed. Several times, whether in the audio

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Speaker 3: or our discussions, we've used the term the phrase the

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Speaker 3: peace process. There is no peace process. There has never

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Speaker 3: been a peace process. There's been this charade which Putin

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Speaker 3: and Lavrov barely even bothered to play their part. So

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Speaker 3: I can call my dog a lion, but if I

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Speaker 3: that makes me a crank. There's been peace process.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to the only extent they participated it at all

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Speaker 3: And what's really notable and interesting, and this is getting

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Speaker 3: it fake respect. Don't talk to me about the peace process.

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Speaker 3: I won't get sidetracked with this. I'll go with this first.

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Speaker 1: David Ignatius to the Washington Post, who writes a lot

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Speaker 1: about the wharn Ukraine knows a lot about this stuff,

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Speaker 6: About to get a lot dirtier. Ukraine has drones that

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Speaker 6: are able to penetrate get to of Moscow and its environs,

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Speaker 6: ground a dirty war of sabotage, of assassination. I've met

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Speaker 6: with leaders of Ukrainian military intelligence. They are very, very

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Speaker 6: So as bad as this war has been, it could

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Speaker 1: And that's the main reason I want to spend this

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Speaker 1: to get crazy ugly. Ukraine starts firing missiles into Moscow,

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Speaker 1: regularly targeting Putin or his people or his house. Putin's

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Speaker 1: going to respond right best he can. And it's who

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Speaker 1: knows where this is headed? Mushroom clouds. We don't know. Trump,

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Speaker 1: Are you serious about that? You think Putin would use

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Speaker 3: But yeah, one of your smaller tactical ones. Yeah, just

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Speaker 3: to make the point, Yeah, I could absolutely see that.

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Speaker 3: I certainly hope not. I'm not, you know, taking taking

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Speaker 3: just going to say. You know, Trump was critical of

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Speaker 3: Zelensky in his tweet, saying Zelensky is doing his country

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Speaker 3: no favors by talking the way he does. That there

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Speaker 3: at risk of being.

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Speaker 1: Wiped off the map, right.

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Speaker 3: His animosity towards Zelensky. And I don't want to theorize

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Speaker 3: we've probably annoyed Trump fans enough already, but I don't

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Speaker 3: get that when you're fighting for the very existence of

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Speaker 3: your country, you're you're criticizing the guys, the guy for

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Speaker 1: I don't get it well. And Putin's absolutely going to

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Speaker 1: try to kill Zelensky. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Well do

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Speaker 1: whatever damage he will.

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Speaker 3: He will be the proverbial guy who will turn, who

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Speaker 3: will destroy Ukraine so he can rule over the Ashes.

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Speaker 1: We would absolutely do that, right Illinois, More people here then.

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Speaker 8: No afternoon afternoon?

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Speaker 3: For that technique for so long. Oh well, more on

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Speaker 1: Thank you. This is a very nice place you're holding me.

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Speaker 3: How was he The only account I heard was that

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Speaker 1: How do you get this chainsaw started? I keep pulling

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Speaker 1: tased once, and there's any indication of like chainsawing or

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Speaker 1: any other Here's here's my password. I'll walk there with you,

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Speaker 1: walk where wherever I gotta go to help you. I'll

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Speaker 1: do whatever you gotta do. What do you want me

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Speaker 1: to do?

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Speaker 3: I'll do it. It's it's on the laptop right there. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so you do it, But then you're broke.

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Speaker 1: He's committed a crime. I hope that the authorities can

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Speaker 1: catch them and figure it out. But I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: sit there and get chainsawed to death. Well the guy's alive.

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Speaker 1: He just had a rough couple of weeks. Well he's

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Speaker 1: alive because he escaped. I might think, I hear you

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Speaker 1: absolutely wouldn't you just give it? I mean, well, it's

449
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Speaker 1: like the thing, you know, somebody stops you on the

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Speaker 1: street with a knife and says, give me your watch.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably just gonna handle my watch, get into a

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Speaker 1: knife fight for the best.

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Speaker 3: It's possible. This guy just like didn't have the passwords

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Speaker 3: handy or.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could, you could torture me for a

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Speaker 1: very long time to try to get into my bank account.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the slightest idea what my password is.

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Speaker 1: I had another question around this, what was it?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Uh, I suppose there's a chance I would think, well,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna kill me after I type in the password,

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Speaker 1: because they're not gonna just let me go and finger

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Speaker 1: them for this crime. Yes, so he might have decided

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Speaker 1: that was the only thing keeping him alive. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: that could have been his calculation, which is probably a

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Speaker 1: pretty good calculation. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I think the greater story here, and we hit

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Speaker 3: on this last week, is that cryptocurrency is so easily

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Speaker 3: transferred and then is gone forever, and there are so

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Speaker 3: few I mean, if you if you were to, you know,

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Speaker 3: put my feet in a pan of water and hold

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Speaker 3: half a freak off and fire up the chainsaw whatever

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Speaker 3: and say, all right, Joe, I want your entire net worth,

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Speaker 3: I would tell you this is gonna take a while.

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Speaker 3: I've got like six to eight different financial institutions I've

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Speaker 3: got to get in touch with. They've got like three

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Speaker 3: step verification crap to do. Then we're gonna have to

478
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Speaker 3: email them, and this is gonna take quite some time.

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Speaker 3: Whereas with crypto, you just click and you click in

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Speaker 3: your password. There you go, have access to the account,

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Speaker 3: it's transferred, and it's gone. I mean, it could be

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Speaker 3: five minutes.

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Speaker 1: So I asked chat GPT, Yes, if you tase someone

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Speaker 1: while their feet are in a bucket of water, would

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Speaker 1: it hurt more? I wondered, what you're dictating into your phone? Yes,

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Speaker 1: while you're talking. The problem is the voice texting isn't

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Speaker 1: very well. So the first time it said, would chasing

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Speaker 1: someone while their feet are in a bucket of water

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Speaker 1: hurt more? Yes, being chased while your feet are in

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Speaker 1: a bucket of water would hurt because it would be

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Speaker 1: hard to run. Okay, that's not what I asked for that,

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Speaker 1: so I did it again and emphasized it more. Would

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Speaker 1: tasing someone hurt more if their feet were in water?

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Speaker 1: And it said teasing someone while their feet are in

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Speaker 1: water wouldn't hurt more, but it could amplify the emotional discomfort.

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Speaker 1: You're fat, You're fat. Stop it. My feet are went out,

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Speaker 1: I'm fat. So I still don't have the answer. I

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Speaker 1: still don't have the answer to that question. I will

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Speaker 1: try to figure that out. For some reason, I feel

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Speaker 1: like they were really just winging it on the whole

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Speaker 1: torture thing, like they hadn't thought this through right. They

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Speaker 1: didn't bring in a massad agent or something. This guy

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Speaker 1: looks to be quite young too. I don't recall he's

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Speaker 1: like barely thirty years old.

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Speaker 3: The already one hundred millionaire who decided he really needed

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Speaker 3: another thirty million dollars. Yeah, craziness, but you're gonna see

507
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Speaker 3: more of this stuff. So the dog thing actually interesting,

508
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Speaker 3: not crap. Really enjoyed it as a dog lover myself.

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Speaker 1: And I will get the answer in case you ever

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Speaker 1: need to do it. On whether they're tasing someone while

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Speaker 1: their feet are in a bucket of water hurts more barbaric.

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Speaker 1: We'll have that all for you coming up. Stay here.

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Speaker 1: So a little tip, I guess if you're ever gonna

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Speaker 1: try to torture the crypto codes out of someone who's

515
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of money, tasing them while their feet

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Speaker 1: are in a bucket of water, according to chat GPT,

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Speaker 1: would likely hurt quite a bit more, causing the electrical

518
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Speaker 1: current to spread more unpredictably or intensely through the body,

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Speaker 1: especially if both feeders submerged, which they were in this case.

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Speaker 1: We've all learned something handy these case's great. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure chat GPT, which is owned by whoever is sending,

522
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Speaker 1: is now monitoring all my stuff as they think I'm

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Speaker 1: some sort of job, some sort of crypto stealing lunatic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So a much more life affirming note came

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Speaker 3: across this piece and will post it under hot links

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Speaker 3: at Armstrong eyetdy dot com.

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Speaker 1: But it's about a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of people, a professor and a grad student who were

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Speaker 3: doing separately then together studies on dogs and dog behavior

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Speaker 3: and dog emotional responses and stuff like that. And during COVID,

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Speaker 3: the grad student Gal filmed her dog playing with her

532
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Speaker 3: father in several different situations. And this is kind of

533
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Speaker 3: a two part revelation here. Some were positive, like giving

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Speaker 3: him a treat. Some were more negative, like showing him

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Speaker 3: his nemesis, Saffron. The housecats. Oh, they did not get along.

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Speaker 3: They got along like dogs and cats anyway. So then Holly,

537
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Speaker 3: who's this grad student Gal edited the videos so they

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Speaker 3: only showed Oliver the dog against a black backdrop. All

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Speaker 3: you could see was the dog and how he reacted,

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Speaker 3: not what.

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Speaker 1: The stimulus was.

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Speaker 3: And the videos were shown to hundreds of people who

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Speaker 3: were asked how is Oliver feeling? And a key finding

544
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Speaker 3: was that people could not say how the dog was

545
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Speaker 3: feeling without context. They were absolutely terrible in saying, Oh,

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Speaker 3: that dog is happy, that's interesting, or that dog is

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Speaker 3: mad or sad or threatened or whatever. It was really

548
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Speaker 3: kind of disturbing, and I took the little quiz that

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Speaker 3: they have and I was pretty good at it.

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Speaker 1: But so we're filling in the blanks on that when

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Speaker 1: we look at a dog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, precisely, Yeah, we see the context and so interpreted.

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Speaker 3: My buddy Greg, the professional dog trainer, taught me a

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Speaker 3: long time ago that a wagging tail does not necessarily

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Speaker 3: mean happy.

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Speaker 1: It does not, so don't assume.

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Speaker 3: That, especially if it's in a situation where there could

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Speaker 3: be aggression. But anyway, then when people were given the context,

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Speaker 3: they nailed it, of course. But but they're terrible at decoding

560
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Speaker 3: you know, how dogs, what dogs were thinking, what they

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Speaker 3: were feeling. And they go into a little bit more

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Speaker 3: of the study. But the most interesting revelation to me

563
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Speaker 3: was they used what they learned with a study from

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Speaker 3: Italy from a little earlier. They put dogs in a

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Speaker 3: box just so they could film their tails, with a

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Speaker 3: camera in front of them and a window in front,

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Speaker 3: and the cameras were trained on the dog's wagging tails. Well,

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Speaker 3: the researchers presented things to look at through the window,

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Speaker 3: like they would show the dogs an owner. It's uh

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Speaker 3: old Joe, come to see Baxter with a predictable reaction,

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Speaker 3: or they'd show them an unfamiliar person who would come

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Speaker 3: up right in front of them, or an unfamiliar dog,

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Speaker 3: and the dogs showed a strong, consistent bias to wag

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Speaker 3: their tails to the right when shown their owner or

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Speaker 3: an unfamiliar human, but a left bias toward an unfamiliar dog.

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Speaker 3: So if it was, and they traced it to the

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Speaker 3: centers of the brain, which, just like in a human being,

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Speaker 3: if something happens on the left side of the brain,

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Speaker 3: it manifests on the right side of the body. Well,

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Speaker 3: the left side of a dog's brain is more specialized

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Speaker 3: for approach and I'm happy, let's meet each other and so,

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Speaker 3: and the right side for withdrawal and fear responses and

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing. So there is a bias in

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Speaker 3: dogtail wagging if it's toward the right. And being politically conservative,

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Speaker 3: this is easy for me to remember. To the right

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Speaker 3: is good, to the left is not good.

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Speaker 1: What if the dog is sitting in the passenger seat

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Speaker 1: while you drive with its arms crossed looking out the

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Speaker 1: window and refuses to respond to anything you say, even

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Speaker 1: if you ask it what's wrong. Your dog is angry

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 3: Trust me, you should apologize to your dog, whether you're

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Speaker 3: in the wrong or not.

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Speaker 1: What if you don't know what you're apologizing for.

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Speaker 3: And here's a pro tip, don't give the dog a bone.

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Speaker 3: The dog doesn't want it, maybe not for a couple

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Speaker 3: of days. Dog is not looking for a bone at

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Speaker 3: this point. Yes, yes, don't even bring it up. I

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Speaker 3: thought that was super interesting. So in a follow up study,

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Speaker 3: the researchers connected dogs to heart monitors heart rate monitors

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Speaker 3: and show them videos of other dogs wagging their tails.

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Speaker 3: If the dog saw a left wagging tail, that's the

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Speaker 3: more hostile one, their heart rate revealed that they were

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Speaker 3: more anxious than when they watched a right wag tail.

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Speaker 1: So the dog knows.

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Speaker 3: The dog's like, ooh, left tail wag All right, hey brother,

607
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Speaker 3: no thread here, that's not I'm not looking for trouble

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Speaker 3: because the dog sensed it. And then they point out

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Speaker 3: that people and dogs have been living together for more

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Speaker 3: than fifteen thousand years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really quite amazing, but we're still not.

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Speaker 3: Great at recognizing the emotional state of dogs.

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Speaker 1: I like to think for most of that period, we

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Speaker 1: probably didn't care. We were just happy with the relationship

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Speaker 1: that we built, where you lightly sleep and bark. If

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Speaker 1: anybody approaches, I will continue to feed you and give you.

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Speaker 3: Water when when yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, there you go. Right,

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Speaker 3: tail wag, good, left tail wag beware.

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Speaker 1: Right and that whole double untondra thing earlier we can

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Speaker 1: just ignore.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. Also from the world of science for this,

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Speaker 3: that's right science. Oh you know what this deserves more

623
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Speaker 3: time came across this one is choosing your passion over

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Speaker 3: a paycheck worth it.

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Speaker 1: Do what you love and the money will follow. Micro's

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Speaker 1: big on. Nah, that's dumb. Yeah, find a way to

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Speaker 1: make a living and make that your hobby. Learn to

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00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: love it or tolerate it. Yeah, and then do what

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Speaker 1: you love at home when you get home, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: on the weekend. Yeah, not even close. Depends.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you happen to really enjoy what you do,

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Speaker 3: or you're one of those people. And see that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: There's an exceptionality bias. It happens in the news if

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Speaker 3: something is rare that makes it interesting. That means they

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Speaker 3: will show it to you. That convinces people. It happens

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Speaker 3: all the time. But it's the opposite. It's the paradox

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Speaker 3: of exceptionality for us because we have done that.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be in radio long before I ever

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Speaker 1: thought I'd make any money at it to a large extent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does help you with the like the ten thousand

641
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: hours problem of takes you that long to be really

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Speaker 1: good at something if you really like doing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Some days, do I want to throw myself off a

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Speaker 3: cliff and beaten by sharks instead of doing this one?

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Speaker 1: Working?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, but most days no. Are you hoping the dog

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Speaker 1: is using the left side of its brain to elite

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Speaker 1: your face off so you don't have to go to work? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If you miss a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and

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