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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen Hot. Hey, welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Black Autas Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my co

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Speaker 2: host Karen, who was equally part of the show fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty, my wife, my partner, love of my life.

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Speaker 3: Yay, love of my life.

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Speaker 2: And that's what we do here, all right.

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Speaker 1: We also have a third on the show today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's getting a little polyamorous up in here.

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Speaker 2: Lately.

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Speaker 1: You got my man, Mike Cavlan, a comedian extraordinaire and

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Speaker 1: looking like looking kind of dapper there man. Compared to

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Speaker 1: the last time we saw you, man looked like you

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of a haircut.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean, but I'm happy to

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Speaker 2: be back.

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Speaker 4: Fifty to fifty to fifty equal part.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you got here with us, And I know

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been that long since the last time you

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Speaker 1: were on the show, but I mean, listen, it's never

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Speaker 1: too soon to have good company over well, so I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you could come back. You're gonna be out here

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Speaker 1: doing comedy again. Like I've seen some pictures of you

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Speaker 1: on the social media and stuff. I know y'all double

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Speaker 1: vaxed up and everything, So like, what's the plan, man,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the comedy?

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Speaker 2: Great question.

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Speaker 5: So I do have one more like headlining streaming show

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Speaker 5: planned and might keep doing those you know now and again.

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Speaker 5: But next week Thursday, June twenty fourth, from anywhere, so

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Speaker 5: you can watch it there. You can wherever you're watching

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Speaker 5: this from, you have the capacity to watch that from.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's the Nowhere Comedy Club. And then I

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Speaker 5: go I go to DC the next weekend June twenty fifth,

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Speaker 5: twenty sixth. Then I in July, I'm going out to

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Speaker 5: the Midwest, and so just a bunch of places. It's

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Speaker 5: all on my website, but I will be getting down

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Speaker 5: at least one of the Carolinas later in the year,

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Speaker 5: and I'll probably hit you up when it's closer to

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Speaker 5: that as well. But uh, I assume that your your listenership,

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Speaker 5: your viewership has a universal global reach, so wherever you are,

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Speaker 5: hopefully I will be approaching it. But yeah, the next

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Speaker 5: next places I'm going to be expanding my reach outside

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Speaker 5: of New York to DC and also the internet everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for it because you're like I said,

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Speaker 1: you one of the smartest people I know, and so

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Speaker 1: uh a lot of stuff. It makes me feel better

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Speaker 1: when smart people are doing the things I'm doing. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, when it was time to be in the house,

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Speaker 1: Mike was in the house. He was he was taking

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Speaker 1: no chances. I was like, Okay, I'm on the right path.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the house. That's what that's that's the right

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Speaker 1: thing to do. And now see Mike kind of get

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Speaker 1: down and I'm like, maybe I can go out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, seems safe. Is the movie.

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Speaker 6: Theaters is calling me that black Widow and that what's.

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Speaker 3: The Furious and the movie with Ryan Reynolds and.

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Speaker 1: The Hitmen, The hit Man's Bodyguard.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to go see that cause we're seeing the

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Speaker 3: first one. It was so fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you see Mike out doing stuff and he's kind

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Speaker 1: of the Canary and the Koma and I'm like, there

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Speaker 1: we go. Okay, Mike looks like he's having a good time.

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Speaker 1: Everything's safe. So you love to see it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I just saw a news story today. I feel like

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Speaker 5: you guys, you keep up as well. It says like

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Speaker 5: the hospitalizations UH for COVID are almost all among people

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Speaker 5: who are not vaccinated with places where vaccinations are high,

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Speaker 5: cases are down, places where vaccinations are low cases are up.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, it's.

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Speaker 5: Uh, the more the more time passes and the more

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Speaker 5: information is gathered, the more science can be done and gleaned,

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Speaker 5: and like, look, it's what I want, you know, I

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Speaker 5: want to be but I for the past year, I

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Speaker 5: the shosh Anchored option I have. There's at the beginning,

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Speaker 5: the stand and they're like, well, it's pretty convenient that

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Speaker 4: And then and then it's.

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Speaker 5: Also like it reminds me of the Raising Arizona. Nicholas

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Speaker 5: Cage is in front of a parole board in the

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Speaker 5: beginning and they're like He's like, I'm totally reformed.

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Speaker 4: You can let me out.

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Speaker 5: And they're like, well, you're not just telling us what

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Speaker 5: we want to hear, are you And he's like, no, no, sir,

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Speaker 5: and they're like, because we just want to hear the truth.

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Speaker 5: And he's like, well, then I guess I am telling

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Speaker 3: Didn't we just tell you?

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Speaker 5: Does? So like, there's what I want is to be

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Speaker 5: able to go out safely healthily. And I like Mott

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Speaker 5: Fauci is my canary, and yeah, like I'm I'm looking

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Speaker 5: to that dude. I think he's actually a little more

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Speaker 5: Fauci were in his forties, we're like the forties Fauci's

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Speaker 5: you know, we're like taking it easy, taking being like

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Speaker 5: more information. So yeah, I haven't gotten to a movie

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Speaker 5: and outdoor dining even better, but I've gone into restaurants.

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Speaker 4: It seems it seems like we're okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I also follow it for the show and stuff

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Speaker 1: and just you know, my own mental health to know

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Speaker 1: like where are we at today? And it does awesome

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Speaker 1: to be trending in the right direction. Everything except you know,

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Speaker 1: be working. They had a cruise where everyone was vaccinated

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Speaker 2: And you're like, huh, well.

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Speaker 1: What do you know because a year ago we were like,

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Speaker 1: stop that boat, we may have to burn it. No

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Speaker 1: one get off, no one get on, where's the hazmat suits?

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Speaker 1: We were treating it like sci fi movies, like like

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Speaker 2: That's how every cruise was.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know two things. One we might have

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Speaker 5: I feel like you were backing up Rod like send

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Speaker 5: dog to be real and Cyprus. He's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Symptomatic you know, yeah that matters.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And the other thing, I think I told

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Speaker 5: no idea it was the Joco, the Jonathan Colton's Cruise.

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Speaker 5: It was a fantastic time full of like you know,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't say, like an.

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Speaker 5: Inclusive community, a compassionate community of people who just like

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Speaker 5: different kinds of nerds who love comedians who were there

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Speaker 5: there forever. Yeah, but while it was happening, we're like, boy, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Uh It's like, oh that's I mean, I'm glad. It's

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Speaker 4: The best thing they can.

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Speaker 1: It's wow, because that does that shut down all the

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Speaker 1: polyamory going on on the it's like, you know, like

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Speaker 2: Like this cruise is now having the opposite effect.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And I wonder does it affect people just like

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Speaker 6: you know, we get together, we organize these orgies, and

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Speaker 6: now people are like, you know what, wear your mask,

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Speaker 6: like you know what we can do? This is everybody vaccinated.

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Speaker 6: You know that's more pointed right now.

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Speaker 1: Well a year ago we didn't know, but I guess

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Speaker 2: But I would imagine if you know, especially if you

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Speaker 2: We I wanted to start off with.

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Speaker 1: We got an email overright, okay today email and it

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Speaker 2: It gave us a lot to think about.

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Speaker 1: It's from our friend Danica, first time emailing the show,

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Speaker 1: but I'll call her our friend anyway.

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Speaker 2: She says, high roding Karen.

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Speaker 1: I've been listening to your podcast since twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 1: I really appreciated your takes and commit me to the culture.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to share. She means the black culture mark.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to share one.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to share a one piece of admittedly unsolicited feedback,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, pretty much all the feedback is

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Speaker 1: like in a quasi state of solicited and unsolicited. We

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Speaker 2: Know what y'all think.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we do.

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Speaker 1: Earlier on in my listening days, it felt like there

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Speaker 3: This is something me and Rojick sat down.

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Speaker 6: If we do, we were like, you know, we want

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Speaker 5: Get out the way, you know, Karen, Can I tell

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Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about this thing.

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Speaker 2: When will the thing be over?

441
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 5: You gave a fuck, but not me, So you know,

442
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 5: ye can I say first, I love the phrase reader's

443
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 5: block is so perfect and evocative for what you're talking about. Also,

444
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 5: you could, if you ever had writer's block, you could

445
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 5: call it rotter's block. You don't have to, but I

446
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 5: I feel like even I mean, you already have a

447
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 5: name for the segment reading Reading Rainbow. But if you

448
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 5: ever like through legal troubles, like needed to call something

449
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 5: else like reading block or reader's block, like the reader's

450
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 5: block of time where you talk about the the block

451
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 5: of reading that you've done, like you know, new reading

452
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 5: on the block, like anything like that.

453
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 4: I really like this reader's block.

454
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 5: I read, yeah, and or you know your Jenny from

455
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 5: the reader's block whatever it is.

456
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 4: And block streets back all right, you know.

457
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: So.

458
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Speaker 5: But the other thing I wanted to say is I

459
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 5: really like that you know what you want to do

460
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 5: and you know you you want the audience to have

461
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 5: a good time, but like.

462
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 4: They're not in charge or in roll of what you do.

463
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 5: It reminded me of I guess the uh the eminem

464
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 5: line where people where somebody's like Will Smith says, you know,

465
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 5: Will Smith doesn't.

466
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 4: Have to cuss to sell records. I do so fuck

467
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: him and fuck you do.

468
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 5: I don't like you listening to you about reading, well,

469
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Speaker 5: I do so listen to this.

470
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Speaker 2: It was.

471
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Speaker 1: It was interesting because I remember being kind of non

472
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: committal to it when they first started, like is this

473
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: is this even cool? I think we made a poll

474
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: about it, and then someone was just like I hate it,

475
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: don't ever do it?

476
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, fuck you, like, come on that,

477
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: like you hate it.

478
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 5: It evokes that kind of passion. I mean, there's got

479
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 5: to be something to it, you know. It was like, yeah,

480
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: you know, it's fine, but hatred is a real indicator

481
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 5: that you've you've really touched the nerve.

482
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

483
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: Like I went through all the stages reading this where

484
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: I was like, at first I was like defensive. I

485
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: didn't obviously I didn't respond out of defense. I think

486
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: that's that's my first impult.

487
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 3: Was like what the fuck?

488
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: We're doing a good job. And then I was like respond,

489
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: we just stopped. I was like breed.

490
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: I actually hit up a couple of my friends that

491
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: like have heard the show and stuff, was like, what

492
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: do you think about this?

493
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: Is this a thing? Maybe I'm doing this? Before I

494
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: talked to Karen, I was like, you think am I

495
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: doing this subconsciously?

496
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: And like maybe the show quality went down because I

497
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: think it hit at the insecurity of the creative person

498
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: in me, and it's like, I want to make a

499
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: thing everyone likes. This person seems to be dissatisfied with

500
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: what they're hearing, so let me ask some other people

501
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: like do you think and they're like, no, I don't

502
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: think that's what's happening at all. And I listened to

503
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: the show and it seems to be the same as always,

504
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: and it's people that have listened for years or whatever.

505
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: And then they then we started doing psycho analysis of Danico.

506
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: We're like, maybe there's like an argument that happened and

507
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: she wanted Karen to win the argument or something like

508
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: a specific show.

509
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 6: Like so many people sometimes they write in and it's

510
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 6: they feel as though I'm their voice or Roger gets

511
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 6: their voice sometimes and so it's one of those things

512
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 6: where they're.

513
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: Almost like they're rooting for their teens.

514
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

515
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: Like I remember we had an email once where somebody

516
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: was like Rod will say on the show that like

517
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: this celebrity, he found this celebrity attractive and caring. You

518
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: need to start saying you find more celebrities attractive. It's

519
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: like that one, like like they're not keeping over here,

520
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: we don't keep scoring. It's not like okay, you said the.

521
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: Rock, all right, well I raise you Beyonce. So we're

522
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: back to you.

523
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: We're back to me. Okay, my time making a stallion.

524
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 5: I mean you're next, So I feel like, uh, the rock. Originally,

525
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 5: when you said the rock, I was like, well, that's

526
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 5: got to be worth at least two people on the

527
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 5: other side, Beyonce. Beyonce is rock level. Yes, perhaps she's

528
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 5: even like paper, you know, the thing.

529
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Speaker 3: That's that's a fair trade.

530
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: So like, but I you know, so sometimes I think

531
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: the audience will get into that dynamic. I think also

532
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of man versus woman stuff out in

533
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: the world. Woman's stuff here because we have to live here.

534
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're so like the opposite of this.

535
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 6: Is a man's road, it is a female But now

536
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 6: there are things that I'm not gonna lie.

537
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: Patriarchy has got me on certain things.

538
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 6: But there are some things that were very almost non traditional.

539
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 6: Because there was a while where I was leaving the

540
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 6: house and Roger is at home, he's cooking, he's cleaning

541
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 6: and all that stuff. You know, I actually put together

542
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 6: a shoeshelf. You know, that's normally a quote unquote a

543
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 6: manly thing to do. But I got my ass in

544
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 6: there and figured out how to do it.

545
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: So, you know, and it's a joke.

546
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 6: We joke about how Rogic remembers a lot of things

547
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 6: that I forget he remembers birthdays and anniversaries, and I'm like, oh,

548
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 6: it's just another day.

549
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: You're no type of thing. It's like a disconnector.

550
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: Sometimes so so you know, but my point being like,

551
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: so I was like, is that what's happening? Like is

552
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: there a thing that maybe we like, you know, like

553
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: why didn't Karen say this? Because what I think the

554
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 1: way I look at the email is that it actually

555
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: gives you work to do, right, because it's not really

556
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: like it's not me like, it's not like I'm going, Karen,

557
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: don't talk about that. It's really saying, Karen, in addition

558
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: to your full time job, stop and start coming up

559
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: with segments for the show.

560
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: To do on the show now for me.

561
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, we were never really doing that

562
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: because the kind of the way the show works out,

563
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: since Karen has a full time job, I'm the one

564
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: spending all day curating segments and reading these articles all

565
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: that shit. Yeah, so that Karen just show up be

566
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: Karen and starting the show. You know, it's all just

567
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: me throwing alley oops to like and then Karen dunked

568
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: it down and we can do to the next topic.

569
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: How about this one nale oop and then she dunks

570
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: it again, and you know, I'm perfectly happy with that,

571
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: but I just want to It made me think like,

572
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: this is the opportunity to evaluate the show. So that's

573
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: when I came in with Karen, was like, would you

574
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: like to make new segments? Would you do.

575
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: You feel stagnated?

576
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you're not having enough to

577
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: say or you're not getting enough of us say or whatever?

578
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: And then that was when we came up with like, oh, yeah,

579
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: we can do the reading Rainbow thing again, and then

580
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: maybe that'll maybe that's what this person is missing because

581
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: they say they only even listened to twenty eighteen, so.

582
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: That's relatively new. Yeah, and I stopped doing reading Rainbow

583
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: like in the Pandemic.

584
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that would.

585
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: Make sense that they were like, oh, there's probably ten

586
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes of just Karen talking about stuff. Yeah,

587
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: not in the show, And so I think I saw it,

588
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, Yes.

589
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if I may also, I feel like this

590
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: might not apply to the feedback that you're getting, because

591
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 5: he seemed like, you know, thoughtful people, people who care

592
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: about the show, people who know you, but so frequently

593
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: I find that like online, especially when people comment, it's

594
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 5: there's a disproportionate number of people commenting who are unhappy.

595
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 5: For every person who's commenting unhappily, there's probably people who

596
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 5: are happily more people who are happily.

597
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: Listening and not commenting.

598
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 5: Like if you look at a YouTube video that has

599
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 5: like a million views and if it has like ten thousand,

600
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 5: you know, it's like probably thumbs up. Lots of people

601
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: put thumbs people hit a one button, easy button and

602
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 5: on the go. But but for people who are like

603
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 5: putting the comments, they'll be like a disproportionate number of

604
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: negative comments because the people who are like no, I

605
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: don't know about this, Like everybody who likes it is

606
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 5: just like, well that was good, and I'm gonna keep

607
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: living my life in a contented way, move on on

608
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: to the next thing. And it's extra special when somebody

609
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: leaves a comment or says something like nice, you know,

610
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 5: to get be like, hey, this is above and beyond,

611
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: Like it was just so good that I had to

612
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 5: as opposed, like, let me talk to this podcast manager,

613
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: because I came to this podcast three years ago and

614
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: there was definitely a larger portion of Karen. And now

615
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: this person's asking for a manager to demand more Karen.

616
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: It's like the ultimate meta Karen situation.

617
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: It's like you go to You're going to chifoutle like

618
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: I noticed that I used to get more meat. What happened,

619
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: you know? And I'm like, I understand. I just want

620
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: to fix it, you know, I don't want to and

621
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: I used to be more defensive. I think a lot

622
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: of people that are podcasters can be very defensive about

623
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: this stuff because you're telling them that they're not doing

624
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: something right or they could be doing something better.

625
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: And a lot of.

626
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: Times it and even in Danica's case, my friend Danica,

627
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: our friend Denica, it was her first time reaching out

628
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: to the show, which is always like a man, that's

629
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't That's not how I like to be introduced

630
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: to anyone, like say hi first, like send me a

631
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: fake friend email the week before, and then I'm like, oh,

632
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: Danna could wrote in again, what a nice thing.

633
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh wait, Danica thinks we need to improve the show.

634
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: And then it feels more like, well, our friend from

635
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: last week just wants.

636
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: To make it better.

637
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: But when it's like your first time, it does feel

638
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: very much like i'd like to report the podcast to

639
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: the manager, and so.

640
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: The defensive part pops up. But I tried to get past.

641
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: The ego of it, Yes, the insecurity within me of it,

642
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: because I do feel like I'm doing a great job.

643
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I do feel like we're doing a great job and

644
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: shout out to you know, BOSSI and the Cole and

645
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: the people I talked to that were like, listen, it

646
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: could be a bunch of stuff like the show is fine,

647
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: You're doing great, we love the show. Karen seems to

648
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: be doing even more stuff lately. I think Nicole even

649
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: said like she was like, sometimes Karen will just go

650
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: out on her own tangent and you just let her

651
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: go and you like whatever she has to say.

652
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: She's like, you just shut the fuck out.

653
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: And then she old like and even if you don't

654
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: understand where going, you just let it go until like

655
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: you do understand or if not.

656
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: It was just a fun tangent.

657
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: But yes, to me, I was like, that's kind of

658
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: my general nature. I don't want to do the you know,

659
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Speaker 1: you can't talk feeling on my show like I want

660
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Speaker 1: you to contribute.

661
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: Everyone should want to contribute, that we should do it politely.

662
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: But yes, let's want to contribute.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And also I think when you was talking about

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Speaker 6: the reading segment, because it would be the first thing

665
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 6: on the show you would hear. So it's like, even

666
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 6: though I talk about the same you know, sometimes I

667
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 6: may talk a little less, you know, particularly if there's

668
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Speaker 6: something that you really feel like you need to talk

669
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Speaker 6: about in express, or maybe something that I don't know

670
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Speaker 6: enough about.

671
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Speaker 3: I might opt to.

672
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Speaker 6: Kind of let you kind of talk sometimes, or may

673
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Speaker 6: ask questions. And so if you have that up front,

674
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 6: you have that ten to fifteen and sometimes twenty sometimes

675
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 6: thirty minutes of us just kind of going back and

676
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 6: forth and follow up by the rest of the show,

677
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: it just feels like, Okay, I'm hearing more caring up front,

678
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: and then you know, the rest of the show flows

679
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 6: versus now it's like segment segment, I talk, I interact.

680
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Because I can't get in my own head about us

681
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: following behind on pop culture stuff.

682
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, we didn't talk about this.

683
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: Damn, I said, you know, I don't. I don't.

684
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you don't. But that's why that's my job.

685
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, that's why I said. This job set up.

686
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Speaker 1: We set up an eleven year expectation that we will

687
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Speaker 1: talk about pop culture things.

688
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I told you, I'm like puffet.

689
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 6: I just show up and go take that, take that

690
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 6: in my shiness suit and dance in the background and

691
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 6: crack jokes and leave the room.

692
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Speaker 3: I am the talent.

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Speaker 5: But you know that the classic saying, of course, if

694
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Speaker 5: you love someone, let her go on and on and on.

695
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Speaker 4: Yes, he comes back to the point, then she still bonus.

696
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Speaker 6: Yeah either way, yes, And even if she doesn't, that's

697
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 6: fine too, because the thing is me and projects.

698
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: Our minds ticked completely differently.

699
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Speaker 6: So there might be sometimes I'm going on a tangent

700
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 6: and he'll stop me. He'd be like, well, what does

701
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Speaker 6: that have to do with this, with what I'm talking about?

702
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Speaker 6: And so then it's like sometimes the connections that I

703
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 6: make might not be the same connections that he makes sometimes, right,

704
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Speaker 6: And so it's kind of like we kind of need

705
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Speaker 6: each other. Like yesterday when we was talking, I was

706
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 6: asking a question, he was playing something me. He was

707
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 6: like you saying, no, I don't understand that at all,

708
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 6: Like explain that to me.

709
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Speaker 3: And I know that it's a lot of.

710
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Speaker 6: Audience members who are me if that makes sense, because

711
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Speaker 6: my reactions is the first reactions is the first response.

712
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Speaker 3: So you know, because I hear people go, well, why

713
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Speaker 3: was Karak shocked and surprised? That's because I have no

714
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Speaker 3: idea what the way the bus is going on.

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Speaker 6: I'm I just got in and put my seat butter

716
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Speaker 6: on and said, let's go.

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Speaker 2: You're a first responder. You're like an essential worker of

718
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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I like that essential worker.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to address that upfront because I just

721
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I want people to know we

722
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: think about this show a lot, and we think about

723
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Speaker 1: what we're doing.

724
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: We're very intentional with it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, regardless of this one person's opinion or

726
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Speaker 1: whatever it gets considered, you know what I mean, even

727
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Speaker 1: without this person writing.

728
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: And I think about that all the time, every show.

729
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Speaker 6: All the time, don't I don't think people realize how

730
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 6: much we talk about the show. It's like most of

731
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Speaker 6: the time, anything that anybody writes brings up we have

732
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Speaker 6: all I guarantee you we have already discussed in some way, shape,

733
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Speaker 6: form or fashion or hit it somewhere, because, like like

734
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Speaker 6: R just said, this is our baby, so you we're

735
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Speaker 6: constantly talking about it and molding it and trying to

736
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Speaker 6: figure out what to do next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think reading Rainbow is coming back. I

738
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Speaker 1: think that our reader, maybe reader's block, it's.

739
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Speaker 2: Coming back reading in the block. I like that.

740
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Speaker 1: So let's now speaking segments. Let's get to Danica's least

741
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: favorite part of show. How did I get into segments

742
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: and read and talk a lot? We gotta start first

743
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: with the chorus. Uh, coronavirus news.

744
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 7: Coronavirus, Yeah, new shit, felt vive, infra red crypt don't

745
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 7: collaborate sean, Yeah, motherfuckers can't gather no more, can't party

746
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 7: no more? Who'll be telling us over a thing of

747
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 7: the past is so long? And these motherfucker's not wearing

748
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 7: masks so young, or they're wearing under their nose And

749
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 7: I'm like, huh.

750
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Speaker 2: Riding caring?

751
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 7: I think you young, gotta keep educating because the leaders

752
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 7: are acting stupid. Is fucking this nation? This pandemic we're facing,

753
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 7: we all we got in the shows. I just got

754
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 7: over this COVID and this shit ain't no joke. Cut

755
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 7: two hundred and twenty dozen plus. They make it like me,

756
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 7: I'm not taking it for granted because this shit is frightening.

757
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 7: It's understated. How basic. The virtue for learning is they

758
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 7: don't give a damn about were not educating kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, and it's now he said. Two hundred

760
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand in that song, which was made in December,

761
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: is now officially of the day, over six hundred thousand

762
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: people have died, which is uh the same amount as

763
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Speaker 1: cancer kills in a year. Yeah, that's how big that is.

764
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Speaker 1: So we had a few stories, some quick ones. The

765
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: first one is that there was a shooting in Big

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Speaker 1: Bear Supermarket in South to Kyle Mall and Georgia and

767
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Speaker 1: it was over or it might be the cop I

768
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce it, but it was over

769
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: a mask.

770
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Speaker 4: The mask.

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00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Yes, someone wanted to the cashier asked this thirty year

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Speaker 1: old customer to wear a mask, and the guy without

773
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: making a purchase, but immediately returned and.

774
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Speaker 2: Like shot the cashier.

775
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: Who this is Like, I feel like any I mean

776
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: probably more than anecdotally, but it feels like there's a

777
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: rash that this type of behavior has been throughout the

778
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Speaker 1: whole pandemic of people that are like I'm not It's

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: not just that I'm not wearing a mask, but like

780
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Speaker 1: I want to be violent about it like I'm waiting

781
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Speaker 1: to be challenged about it, and then I'm going to

782
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: hurt somebody over wearing a mask, which seems to be

783
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: just bonkers me, right.

784
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Speaker 3: And this goes to why.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to the workers, I don't expect the

786
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Speaker 6: workers to enforce these rules. And this is another reason

787
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 6: why I state in my black ass at home, because

788
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 6: I was like, y'all pay them six twenty five an hour,

789
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Speaker 6: and y'all expect them to be the police and do.

790
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Speaker 3: All these other jobs.

791
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Speaker 6: And now we got to wear about masks too, like

792
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 6: you know, and people act stupid, here's your change shirt

793
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 6: going about your business like like, I just don't want

794
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Speaker 6: the interaction.

795
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Speaker 1: With people really are confrontational over over it. I went

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00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: to Marshals thebaut Candles a while ago and this lady

797
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: came in with no mask and her child had on

798
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: no mask. And I think at the time the store

799
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: policy was to wear a mask, right, And but the

800
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: local policy of North Carolina is if you're vaccinated, you

801
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: don't have to wear a mask.

802
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: So a person was like, ma'am, your mask, and then

803
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: she's just like, I don't have to wear a mask.

804
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to.

805
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: I am vaccinated or something like that, and it was

806
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: just so like in proportion to what she was asked

807
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: and how she was fun. It was like, oh, she

808
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: wants like a confrontation, and you know, the lady just

809
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: let her.

810
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: Like okay, man, you know.

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Speaker 3: Right, what's the fun? You know, I'm making a little

812
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: below minimum wage. You get out of here.

813
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 5: Can I tell you guys that my friend Gus is

814
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: a therapist and he told me once sigh that his

815
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 5: A professor shared with the class a recording of a

816
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Speaker 5: family therapy session. Someone had asked for waffles or pancakes,

817
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Speaker 5: and the other person made the other one. They didn't

818
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Speaker 5: make the thing that they asked, and for the whole session,

819
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Speaker 5: the family did nothing but argue about that. And then

820
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Speaker 5: after the video was over, the professor says to the class, Uh,

821
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Speaker 5: it's not about the waffles, right, And I feel like,

822
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 5: you know, murdering a person like it is not about

823
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Speaker 5: the mass, like the.

824
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Speaker 2: The emotions there.

825
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Speaker 5: If there's something else happened, there's I mean, it's unfortunate

826
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Speaker 5: that like, you know, we we have to I'm sure

827
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 5: that like women, uh, and you know, people of color

828
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 5: are dealing with these kinds of like uh, you know,

829
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: sort of metrics in in your heads all the time

830
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Speaker 5: to be like is it.

831
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Speaker 4: Worth saying something and myself.

832
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Speaker 5: At risk, whether it's you know, with with a police officer,

833
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 5: whether it's with you know, just a person who might

834
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Speaker 5: have a gun, because there's more guns in this country

835
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 5: than there are people, and like it's uh yeah, if

836
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: it's not your job to tell people to wear masks,

837
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 5: definitely you don't have to.

838
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Speaker 2: And boy that is like.

839
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna absolutely give you six feet in my mask.

840
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: Like that's the only thing I've learned.

841
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: It's like if I see someone out of mask, I'm like, look,

842
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: and maybe it could.

843
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's very anecdotal.

844
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Speaker 1: We haven't done science on this obviously, but it's very

845
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: much like I don't know if you're wearing the mask

846
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: and some type of not wearing the mask, it's like

847
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: a move, you know, if it's like a bumblebee being

848
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: yellow and black, does it let you know like hey,

849
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: I sting?

850
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: Cause that's how I take it, Like, oh you sting?

851
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna just walk out over this way

852
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: and you can have this out to yourself, good person

853
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: until you're done.

854
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with this.

855
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, these stories just keep popping up, and I know,

856
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: everyone being at home during the pandemic, all these guns,

857
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: all this pent up rage and violence, people fighting on

858
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: airplanes and stuff. It just seemed like what I've been

859
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: doing is waiting for the first wave yes of crazy

860
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: to just.

861
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: Kind of disseminate itself.

862
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: You know.

863
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's like when you're a pop champagne or whatever,

864
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: you gotta let the fizz go out first, And so

865
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: this is the fizz of people right now. Like everyone

866
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: who's like I'm getting out the planes, like, go ahead,

867
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I'll have it. I'll sip some of this champagne in

868
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: a bit when everything calms down. Disneyland no longer requiring

869
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: vaccinated guests to wear a mask, which makes sense, And

870
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna have people who are you gonna

871
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: lie about it and stuff, but I don't.

872
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: The thing about those people is that they were gonna.

873
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: Do that anyway, and they're taking the risk upon themselves.

874
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: And it doesn't benefit them to lie.

875
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: Like I definitely feel bad that people will.

876
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: Do that, but also I'm like, this was going to

877
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: happen at some point no matter how this pandemic went.

878
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Some people were gonna be like, I'm not participating in

879
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: any of the solutions. I just want to be part

880
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: of the problem.

881
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: And it's ultimately, I mean sadly.

882
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: You know, if there's people who aren't able to get

883
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 5: vaccinated because of some medical terms, like they're potentially still

884
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 5: at risk, but mostly the person that you're putting at

885
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: risk is by not getting vaccinated, is certainly yourself. It's like,

886
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 5: there's this old joke. I forget if I've told you this,

887
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 5: it's not my joke, but I just love it. There's

888
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: two guys driving a truck. Could be any gender people,

889
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 5: two people, two dummies. Guys probably driving a truck, probably

890
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 5: probably straight, cis gender or white guys.

891
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: Dummies, you know, just like able bodied, like.

892
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 5: Morons, just probably able us to call them dummies.

893
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: But guys, just you know, these.

894
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 5: Guys, these these individuals are driving a truck. They come

895
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 5: to a an overpass and they see as sign that says,

896
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 5: you know, the height of the overpass to go under

897
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: it is ave and a half feet, so they stop

898
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 5: the truck. They measure their truck turns out to be

899
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 5: thirteen feet. The clearance is twelve and a half. Their

900
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: truck is thirteen. One of them looks at the other

901
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 5: one and says, uh, I don't see any cops around, Let's.

902
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: Go for it.

903
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 5: And I feel like, what that's That's what people who

904
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 5: aren't getting vaccinated.

905
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: They're like, I think I can get away with it.

906
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: But it's not.

907
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: It's not a it's not a legal situation.

908
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 5: But there was a tweet I saw back like a

909
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: year ago that I love so much and I wish

910
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 5: I knew who it was. But it's basically like, I

911
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: feel like some people don't realize that if you die

912
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 5: from coronavirus, you die in real life.

913
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: You know, it's not a video game. That is so

914
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: ACCURATEE don't spawn back. I'm sorry to tell you there's

915
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: no respond.

916
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: That example is so accurate.

917
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: There's no extra life.

918
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: They're virus test dummies, you know, yeah, crash test dummies.

919
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: They're just it's like, why are you taking this risk

920
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: on for you and all the people who will be

921
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: around you. But once again, at some point, society was

922
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to move on. Speaking of which, New York

923
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: Governor Cromo just dropped all remaining COVID restrictions as New

924
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: York State reached seventy percent vaccination, which is interesting because

925
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: this was the magic number a lot of people wanted

926
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: to attain.

927
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: America is weird.

928
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: Though, because like every state is its own country, but

929
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: every state is part of America, and America ain't exactly

930
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: reached seventy percent. So so like as people move in

931
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: and out of New York, they'll be moving in and

932
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: out of like you know, and now I take my

933
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: mask off, I'm no longer in the place where I

934
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: wasn't unvaxed, where I was unvaccinated.

935
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 6: And the thing with I know nothing about, like you know,

936
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 6: New York were structure only for what I hear on

937
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: the news, it wouldn't surprise me if it was one

938
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 6: of those things where it's getting towards the fourth for July,

939
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 6: everybody kind of want to make up the money they

940
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 6: missed last year, and every time.

941
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: You turn up, something else about him comes out in public.

942
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 6: So it's like, do what you want to do, Do

943
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: what you want to do, because if y'all out here

944
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 6: getting drunk and getting high and do whatever y'all want to,

945
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 6: y'all not paying attention to the bullshit I'm doing.

946
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

947
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: He does feel like the like the father who like

948
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: cheated on his family, but then he's.

949
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Like extra nice to the kids, so they'll like let

950
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: it go.

951
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: As we're going to the theme park again, and it's

952
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: like you're kind of a piece of shit. It's like, uh,

953
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 1: we want to smoke some weed with me, let's be

954
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: friends and like. But it does feel like that from

955
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: a distance. With all his decrees lately have just been like.

956
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: Shoot up drugs.

957
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 3: Who gives a fuck?

958
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: Hey, hey do the weed?

959
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: Ay?

960
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: They're like, what about this woman? You sexually risked?

961
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: I have nothing to see here with anybody want to

962
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: go outside without a mask?

963
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 6: I mean, can I give you a blunt if you

964
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 6: get the COVID nineteen.

965
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: Shutting and once again New York City. That's New York State,

966
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: but New York City, Big milestone, coyote, ugly y'all remember

967
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: that movie in bar?

968
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: The movie was terrible? Then we go sit that in

969
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: the movie theaters.

970
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: I didn't I've never seen.

971
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: I think I did you have terrible? I knew it

972
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: was with them boots dancing in that bar. All that

973
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: movie was terrible.

974
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: I knew it was up from the commercials.

975
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: I was like, no, but I think I have an

976
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: aversion to all sexy movies, Like all the sexy movies

977
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: don't do it for me, cause I'm like, there's an

978
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: internet full of pornnography.

979
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: You're not You need to make a good movie. You

980
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: can't just be sex safe. They've already out sexed you.

981
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: The sex game is over.

982
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Just you know, like the days of just like uh,

983
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: you know someone being like in this role, you actually get.

984
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: To see some boobs.

985
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I actually want to stop seeing boobs. All

986
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: I see is boobs. Now, it's too many boobs. I

987
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: just wanted to go on Twitter and see something. It's

988
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: like some tenn is in your face. So now that's

989
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: not getting that's not getting me into the theater anymore.

990
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: I have an idea.

991
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 5: You know how there's like websites where you can find

992
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: out like what frame, you know, what minute you see

993
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 5: boobs in certain movies. Yes, I want there to be

994
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: a website for porn movies that tell you what minute

995
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: there's like a good dramatic plot moment.

996
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: Honestly, we need that for movie movies.

997
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need that for just regular as like should

998
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: I go see this sexy movie this guy Angelina Joe Lee,

999
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: And they're like there's no acting in BeO Wolf. There's

1000
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: really no reason. I'm like, thank you, okay, because they

1001
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: sold me on the boobs and I really just wanted

1002
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: to see some good acting in action. There's none. Okay,

1003
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: thank you, we'll go to the next movie. But yeah,

1004
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: Coyote Ugly. The bar reopens in New York City and

1005
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be doing like body shots, you know, the

1006
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: body shots where you drink the liquor from like on

1007
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: top of like a woman or something like.

1008
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: They'll put it in their name and stuff.

1009
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh did they pay first?

1010
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: No? No, I think that's kind of the opposite of

1011
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: the point. They don't. It's very unigenic.

1012
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

1013
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: I think we're we're more aware of it now because

1014
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: of coronavirus. But this was a listen, Karen, there's nothing

1015
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: stronger than the will of the penis with men, and.

1016
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: Men do a lot of dumb ship. Yes, they are hot.

1017
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Women's pretty much the backbone of Hooters, Kyote Ugly and

1018
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff.

1019
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 5: Oh, I just like the phrase the backbone of Hooters.

1020
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: All the people that don't watch their belly buttons. What

1021
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 3: are we talking about here? No, thank you?

1022
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: I remember my friend had a bachelor party. Uh it

1023
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: was at a club and we were in the VIP

1024
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: and all this stuff.

1025
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: You know.

1026
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: They were like living it, they were living big. I

1027
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: was still broke at the time, and.

1028
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: Uh, like literally, we can't.

1029
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about going to the club because

1030
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to stay out of when

1031
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a club guy.

1032
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: And they're like, you gotta go.

1033
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, you you dressed down and ship they thought.

1034
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: You thought I was a bouncer because I had on

1035
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: like jogging pants and a T shirt and people were.

1036
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: Just coming up to me like can we get in VIP.

1037
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 2: It was like a bunch. It was like every.

1038
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: Like every twenty one year old spring break girl in

1039
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: the world was like, no, I would like to be

1040
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: in this section and they were like, isn't a VIP

1041
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: And I was like these losers, my friends, They're no,

1042
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: there's nothing up here, ladies. You you should probably put

1043
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: special up here. Of course you're allowed, and who gives

1044
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: a fuck, right, And but these guys they were just

1045
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: so like, oh my god, man, college girls or whatever.

1046
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I guess, you know, like

1047
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: because to me as not a bar club person, right,

1048
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Mostly it's just like an annoying, loud conversations where no

1049
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: one can hear me and the witty things I want

1050
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: to say. If so, it's just it's like everything I

1051
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: hate about people. It's like it's like, can we have shots?

1052
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: And I'm just like can I leave?

1053
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: And so, but at some point they were like, man,

1054
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: we about to do some shots off of these girls,

1055
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like.

1056
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Off of how does that work? And it was.

1057
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: And this is like I said before pandemic, before Corona,

1058
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: all that stuff, But I just.

1059
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: Remember thinking like that don't seem that, don't seem sad.

1060
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: Like y'all don't y'all don't think putting your your mouth

1061
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: on some strange person's navel or y'all don't think that's weird.

1062
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: And then the girls that do it to them and

1063
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: all this other stuff and I was like, no, thank you.

1064
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, So anyway, that is back is what I'm saying.

1065
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: The world is helly.

1066
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: Coronavirus is going away magically, it's disappearing, as Trump said

1067
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: last Easter, but now it's disappearing and kyote ugly is

1068
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: opening up. So if y'all want to go and on

1069
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: someone's navel that you don't know and have some alcohol, Bao.

1070
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: At least now you'll have the alcohol first of a

1071
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 5: hand sanitizer going into belly button sanitizer.

1072
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: That's all we need.

1073
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 5: Also, uh, I have a brief Sorry to go back

1074
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 5: in the conversation, but since you mentioned BeO Wolf, I

1075
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 5: wanted to pitch my idea for a BeO Wolf remake

1076
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: with Scott Bao and Scott Wolf.

1077
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: That's all Scott BeO slash Wolf.

1078
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: They've become werewolves.

1079
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: And ye, that's the whole thing.

1080
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: I would watch it, Okay, pitch it to Hulu. They're

1081
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: buying everything right now.

1082
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 5: And and wile E Coyote Ugly that's the next one. Yes,

1083
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 5: it's it's Wiley Coyote Ugly is where he's trying to

1084
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 5: get a glimpse of the Roadrunner dancing but is never

1085
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 5: able to.

1086
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 3: I'm here for this.

1087
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh all right, let's move into other news. Let's did

1088
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: you and did you know? News?

1089
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: Okay, you know.

1090
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: Half of us cosmetics contain toxic chemicals.

1091
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

1092
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 6: I know that a lot of makeup is made for

1093
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 6: various different stuff. And I know this is why people

1094
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 6: tell people don't use cheap makeup because it'll like tear

1095
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 6: your skin up and you start breaking out and shit

1096
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 6: like that. That's why people say it is worth the

1097
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 6: extra money for the better, higher quality makeup.

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00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 2: Well.

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00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: Researchers at the University of Notre Dame tested more than

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00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty commonly used cosmetics and found that

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00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: fifty six percent of foundations and eye products, forty eight

1102
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: percent of lip products, and forty seven percent of mascaras

1103
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: contain fluorine, an indicator of pfas, so called forever chemicals

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00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: that are used in nonstick frying pants, rugs, and countless

1105
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: other consumer products.

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00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah.

1107
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 5: I mean, but at least it's not going near your eyes.

1108
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: Oh you said it is?

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00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, Yeah, yeah. I can't wait for Mark

1110
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: Ruff to do this movie in five years and then

1111
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: we can all care about it.

1112
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 6: So is it gonna make my lips nonstick like these pants?

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00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Maybe if it's not the same material.

1114
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: You can fry an egg on them and it won't

1115
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: get stuck. It changes the definition of hot when you

1116
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: put on makeup. Uh, some of the real hot.

1117
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Some of the.

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00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Highest PFAS levels were found in waterproof esc era and

1119
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: long lasting lipstick eight sixty two percent, respectively.

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Speaker 6: Oh, and that's the ship they sell the most because

1121
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 6: it lasts longer, particularly waterproof, because people go, well, I

1122
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 6: don't want to cry.

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: And this shit just starts streaming down my face.

1124
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: If you use long lasting lipstick, you won't last long rod.

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Speaker 5: It's a great ad campaign against long lasting lipsticks.

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00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: Sign me up for those ads where they make people

1127
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: not smoke.

1128
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, the bake baked commercials, I'm just.

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00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: Gonna do it for lipstick products and stuff. Do they

1130
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: list the products, uh mean, by.

1131
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 4: The names of them.

1132
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: No, they just generally say about these products, Oh.

1133
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 3: What's that? Because that matters too.

1134
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: It would be helpful, right, right.

1135
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: What's the fucking point in telling me? I want to

1136
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: know if I got some fifty in my house so

1137
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: I can get rid of that shit?

1138
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it was probably a little bit scary because

1139
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: they don't want to probably get sued and go into

1140
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: court and all that stuff, because it's like it's like

1141
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: when some what someone released a study, it's like this

1142
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: exact thing is bad.

1143
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: It's like, well, we've gotta sue were we sell that

1144
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: exact thing?

1145
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: You just told the world that hamburgers are killing everybody, oprah,

1146
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: So we gotta assue you. So I wonder if that's

1147
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: why they don't release the exact brands.

1148
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 6: Okay, because I was like, I would like to know

1149
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 6: this because I might have, you know, some in there

1150
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 6: right now.

1151
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it better not.

1152
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 3: Be fenty No, it better not be fany See.

1153
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: That's why they can't tell nobody see that feeling you

1154
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: just had right there, And that's why they keep it

1155
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: to the.

1156
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 6: I like my feny, and you know, I like the

1157
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 6: liquid and y'all y'all already. I don't know Jack Squade

1158
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 6: about makeup, but I like my fenity. I can put

1159
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 6: it on my face.

1160
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: And go.

1161
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: In other news that you may not know.

1162
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: The ap Associated Press says they will no longer name

1163
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: suspects in minor crimes.

1164
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, so.

1165
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 6: Only in the major crimes. What's considered minor of a

1166
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 6: major probably.

1167
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Like Mistermeaners, the wild wacky stories that we cover for

1168
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 1: guests the race, Like this is really gonna hurt guess

1169
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: the race because we like to keep the light crimes

1170
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: and not the like.

1171
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: Really like, there's so many crimes. I'm like, I'm not.

1172
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 6: Yes, husband comes in and decapitates everybody we can make.

1173
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: Fun of, Oh, another mass shooting.

1174
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: Guess the race, Like that's not as fun as like

1175
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: wacky person gets naked and runs around and you're like harmless,

1176
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: they won't go to jail, they'll be fine. Well, now

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00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: they're saying they don't want to do it because the story.

1178
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: While the like, they'll cover the story and what happened.

1179
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: But when you name the person, the person's name is

1180
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: out there forever yesterday, and it can make it very

1181
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: difficult for the person.

1182
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really a very practical and nice thing

1183
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: they're doing, probably should have been doing, but it'll make

1184
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: it difficult for that person later when it's like, you know,

1185
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: you're applying for a job, or.

1186
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're looking for a relationship. You're on

1187
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: a dating app and it's throwing a Google Mike kaplan

1188
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: you you danced around naked in the intersection.

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00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: What the hell you know? You weren't supposed to reveal

1190
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: my name? But yeah, that is.

1191
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 3: Am I A. E.

1192
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: Kapling? Guys wrong, right?

1193
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 5: There is actually a When I started like watching movies

1194
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 5: when I was a kid. I think the first one

1195
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 5: I saw was A Clue in nineteen eighty five. The

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00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 5: costume designer's name was Michael Kaplan. It might have been

1197
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 5: Michael B. Kaplan, like like a Michael B. Jordan kind

1198
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: of situation, you know, like they knew that I was

1199
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Speaker 5: going to claim the the number one Michael Kaplan uh

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00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 5: uh title, but they that will just be Michael B.

1201
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 2: Kaplin.

1202
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 5: They eventually did, like I think Fight Club and Star

1203
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 5: Trek and like that this might I think it's now

1204
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 5: Michael Kaplan. So maybe like Highlander Styler, the one with

1205
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 5: jet Lee Stile, like there can only eventually be one

1206
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 5: Michael Kaplan.

1207
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 4: And uh so, like I'm I'm sticking.

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying staying off to the side with the m

1209
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 5: y Q spelling action. But this because this one costume designer,

1210
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 5: Michael Caplan's doing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: But I like to imagine that he did find the

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00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: other Mike Kaplan and kill him, that he decapitated him,

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00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, there, he caplentated him.

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00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, you about sound like me. And Karen Parson is

1215
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 6: from the Fresh Prince of bel Air. My name is

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00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 6: ka Ran. Her name is k r Y and that

1217
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 6: because that's my mate name. So because for a long

1218
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 6: time I never had to middle name, so my name

1219
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 6: was Karen Parsons, So I used to always look for

1220
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 6: everything that she did because she had to say names.

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00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: Me oh ah the so yeah.

1222
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: I kind of liked this idea though, just as a

1223
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: person that thinks that it's kind of unfair that folks

1224
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: had to live with the stigma for the rest of

1225
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: their lives. I do wish they could just publish, like

1226
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: pictures of their body but not their face.

1227
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: You could, you could write them a letter and be like,

1228
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 5: we have a podcast, very important to us to do

1229
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 5: our segment where people like, obviously we could still guess

1230
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 5: the race, but it's really we want to have this verite,

1231
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 5: you know, we want to have the answers.

1232
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: We like to know we were guessing right, because if

1233
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: none is just racist. So Marjorie Taylor Green everybody's she apologized.

1234
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: What what was the sincere?

1235
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: She apologized, said, I made a mistake. She compared having

1236
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: vaccine passports to having yellow stars worn by Jews in

1237
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Nazi Germany before they were taken to the gas shamber.

1238
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: She apologized for saying that.

1239
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: The only reason why she apologized because people got a

1240
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 3: high ass. Other than that, she meant that I don't boo,

1241
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't take your apology, ma'am.

1242
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: I really just don't understand, do I know. I know

1243
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: America doesn't teach slavery stuff, like we're very bad at that.

1244
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: Our schools don't learn anything. But I felt like we

1245
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: had the Holocaust pretty well covered in America, Like we

1246
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of movies.

1247
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: It's in our it's in our textbooks.

1248
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: They're constantly telling people because everyone's fucking.

1249
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: This allegory up. Why is it so easy just fuck this?

1250
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: It's constantly every day.

1251
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: It's just like something I don't want to do, same

1252
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: as the Holocaust, you like, that is not Holocaust.

1253
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 6: And you know what but people fail to realize is this,

1254
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 6: Once we allowed the racism to go free against the

1255
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 6: Blacks and the Asians and the Native Americans, eventually it

1256
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 6: was gonn trickle back down to the Jews to get

1257
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 6: like like it was like these groups.

1258
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: Everybody know, we don't like these groups. But I mean,

1259
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: but since a lot of it, since we point fingers,

1260
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: let's pointed in that direction to a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of these white supremacist groups, especially those like the

1262
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: ones like run up on the Capitol people they anti Semitic.

1263
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: That's heavy, real heavy, And so I mean neo Nazis.

1264
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: They just switched the names. And then you have people

1265
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: in Congress that are like, really buddy buddy with these

1266
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: groups they run, they win office, and then they say

1267
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: shit like this, which is so like ridiculous to me.

1268
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: But it's it's and maybe this is just the comedic

1269
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: part of my brain or whatever, the logical part of

1270
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: my brain. My other part is that you're always fucking

1271
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: up the analogy, like that is not the same. Now

1272
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: you chose to not wear a mask. This is not

1273
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: the same as the Holocaust. And she apologized, but it's.

1274
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: Like, how did your brain get to that point in

1275
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: the first place?

1276
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 6: You know?

1277
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 5: So I remember this was news last year. Maybe you

1278
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: guys talked about it that there was like a survey

1279
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 5: of I think gen Z millennials. I don't know if

1280
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 5: those are the same, but the sixty three percent of

1281
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 5: them it says here where to go, oh did not

1282
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 5: know six million Jews were killed? Thirty six percent thought

1283
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 5: that two million or fewer Jews were killed, Forty eight

1284
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 5: percent couldn't name a single camp or ghetto established of

1285
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 5: the forty thousand that were and eleven percent of US

1286
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 5: millennial and gen Z respondents believe.

1287
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 4: Jews caused the Holocaust.

1288
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 5: It like, so I don't know what kind of teaching

1289
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: isn't happening, But it's also here's a thing that honestly

1290
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 5: doesn't make sense.

1291
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: This is maybe gonna sound like a joke.

1292
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 5: But like the people who are like Holocaust deniers, I

1293
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 5: feel like there are you know, Nazis, neo Nazis, white

1294
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 5: supremacists who are like.

1295
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 4: It didn't happen, like people didn't want to murder Jews.

1296
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: And also I want to murder juice. You know what

1297
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it doesn't how did How does that

1298
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 4: make sense? What are you talking about? Juice?

1299
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 5: Nobody killed you? We want to, but we're we haven't

1300
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 5: done it. Like there's a future. We want a future

1301
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 5: holocaus like it's.

1302
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: And I always felt like I always felt like we

1303
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: learned about the Holocaust when I was a kid book

1304
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: specifically because it was like a way to pass America

1305
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: on the back, Like I don't think it was like.

1306
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: As like genuine empathy and learning and love.

1307
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: It felt like a way to be like America's the

1308
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: good guys, right, I mean, we came in, we saved everyone.

1309
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: They were killing all kinds of we were like, fuck

1310
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: that shit, America, bitch.

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Speaker 2: And we stopped it.

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Speaker 1: High five everybody, and we're like, oh cool, So when's

1313
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: the next chapter on Slavery're like, oh, we were gonna

1314
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: civil rights Martin Luther King.

1315
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: Anyway, we saved everyone in World War two, and that's

1316
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: what we need to talk about. Have you have y'all

1317
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: read the book cast By Oh yeah, I have it.

1318
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: I have already yet heard of it.

1319
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 5: So you know, it's about the the three major cast

1320
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 5: systems of human history, which are the one in India,

1321
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 5: the one that the Nazis established, and the racial one

1322
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 5: in America. Uh that was you know, codified in Slavery

1323
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 5: and Jim Crow and is still active in ways today.

1324
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 5: And one of the most like kind of horrifying things

1325
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 5: was that some Nazis like sent people over to learn

1326
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 5: about our caste system and there were certain elements of

1327
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 5: it where they were like, that's a little too far

1328
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: for us, right, Yeah, yeah, I was.

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 3: Hearing about that.

1330
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 6: It was like, yeah, we'll take some of them where

1331
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 6: where it's like that's a little too far. And then

1332
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 6: they took it back in, you know, then they did

1333
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 6: their thing, but they.

1334
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 3: Was like this is where we draw a lot.

1335
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was wild because I didn't even know about

1336
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: that until probably like five or six years ago, just

1337
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: reading reading books about American slavery and stuff that I

1338
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what what what happened? And and it

1339
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: really changed the way that I looked at World War

1340
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: Two even because like America just went to put out

1341
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: the fire that's inspired by America. It's like we were

1342
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: the We were like the spark that like the fire

1343
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: of like and this is how you kill a whole

1344
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: lot of people.

1345
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: And they were like, we kill a whole lot of people,

1346
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: not you.

1347
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: That's enough killing America. Come pick up your trash.

1348
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta get out there.

1349
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: Guys.

1350
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about this, but yes, she apologized.

1351
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 1: She paid a visit to the Holocaust Memorial Museum, which

1352
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: is like everybody's when you're anti Semitic. That's like to

1353
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: get out of jail free card kind of thing that

1354
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: everyone does, or not even get out of your free car.

1355
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: It's like the my bad, I'll visit a museum.

1356
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: And learned it's not sincere.

1357
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, now what I do.

1358
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: What it made me hopeful for is that now that

1359
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: we have an African American history museum. Hopefully we can

1360
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: start getting some of this, I hope. So someone does

1361
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: something racist, you go to the Black Zonian, you know,

1362
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: go check it out to see some exhibits. Me, you're

1363
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: not racist anymore. And you know, and with Margie Taylor

1364
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: Green will probably be back here in a month, but

1365
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: hopefully not.

1366
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: Did you call it the black Sonian? Yes, the Blacksonian.

1367
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 4: I like that, the Will Smithsonian.

1368
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: He's probably in there, which making the men in Black Zonian.

1369
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 6: So but yet, yeah, she'll be yelling at AOC in

1370
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 6: three weeks. So ye now of my face, ma'am.

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01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: Because also, like, I don't know how she could make

1373
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: a pivot all the way because that's literally her base.

1374
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Like that, she probably lost people apologizing and admitting that

1375
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: was fucked up in too far.

1376
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't know who got to her to make her apologize, but.

1377
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: Someone that moves like that is hard for me to

1378
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: believe is sincerely out of the goodness of your heart.

1379
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: Just someone had to be.

1380
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 6: Like, no, only time she apologizes when she's gonna lose something.

1381
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 6: The only other time that she publicly apologized when they

1382
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 6: voted her out of their positioned themroom chairs because she

1383
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 6: was acting a fool and they was like, ma'am, you

1384
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 6: can't be making.

1385
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 3: These videos and do this. She was like, I apologize.

1386
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 6: I was like, we still got to get you off

1387
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 6: of these committees.

1388
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: Yees.

1389
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: She said, I have made a mistake. I wanted to

1390
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: say that I know that words that I've stated were

1391
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: hurt for and for that, I'm very sorry. The hearts

1392
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: of the Holocaust are something that some people don't even

1393
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: believe happened, and some people deny, but there's no comparison.

1394
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 2: To the Holocaust. She's like, some people of my voters,

1395
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: there are.

1396
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: Words that I have said and remarks that I've made

1397
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: that I know are offensive, and for that I apologize.

1398
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 2: So well.

1399
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh and she said I also, I always wanted to

1400
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: remind people I'm very much a normal person.

1401
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 3: No, you're not.

1402
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's not what I mean.

1403
01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 5: I sometimes like on stage, here's the thing is, I'll

1404
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 5: ask the crowd sometimes like does anybody here think that

1405
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 5: they are not weird? Does anyone here believe that they

1406
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 5: are normal? And usually like the vast majority of people

1407
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 5: like do not respond. Every once in a while, one

1408
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 5: person claps and I'm like, one person thinks they're normal,

1409
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 5: that's weird.

1410
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: I feel like, if you have to say it is

1411
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: probably not gonna go over it.

1412
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 5: Well, like, I never talk about being sober when I'm sober.

1413
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm a normal person anyway.

1414
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, she says, she can be putting that mask off.

1415
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: That's what are you alien, That's what aliens say. I'm

1416
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 3: a normal human being.

1417
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: She says.

1418
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: I thing, it's important for me to be transparent and honest.

1419
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm blessed with amazing Paris. My dad passed away in April,

1420
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: but I will say he taught me some great things.

1421
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: One of the best things.

1422
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: That you make a mistake, you should own it. I've

1423
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: made a mistake. It has really bothered me for a

1424
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now, oh, she let us sit for

1425
01:07:59,080 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks.

1426
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: I really want to own it.

1427
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: This afternoon, I visit the Holocaust Museum. There's nothing that

1428
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: compared to it. So then, yeah, okay, all right, so

1429
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: I do love that. Uh listen, I made a mistake

1430
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and uh now I feel

1431
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: like it's time for me to say.

1432
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: Whoops, my bad. That was crazy. Right, anyway, we're over it.

1433
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: Uh uh, let's move into some other stuff.

1434
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 6: You know.

1435
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: I love when we have Mike on the show, because

1436
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: there's one segment that we don't always get to that

1437
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: everybody loves.

1438
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: Uh, and it's white people news, and uh, we're gonna

1439
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna do some white people news.

1440
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 3: White people.

1441
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what white people are talking about everybody. Okay,

1442
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 1: it's kind of get off of the heavy Holocaust topics

1443
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: and does Karen not get to talk enough topics and

1444
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: get onto these celebrities and lighter fair There's gonna be

1445
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: a lot of who well I think you know these well,

1446
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm being over confident. I don't know that

1447
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: Karen knows these two people from night. You and mine

1448
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 1: probably know these two people, Katie Perry and I know

1449
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: who that is.

1450
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: And Orlando Bloom I know who that is? Oh, will

1451
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: wait two for two? Okay, they're a couple.

1452
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: They just had a baby and they were out in

1453
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: public kissing while taking self.

1454
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: He's in Italy.

1455
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 6: Ah shit, Now they both are actors, right, well I

1456
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 6: know no, No, she sings, he's an actor, right, Okay.

1457
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: Celebrities they're just like us. Yeah, they're just like us.

1458
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 5: Having paparazzi take photos of them, taking photos of themselves.

1459
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: In scept this is just us on every thing that

1460
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: everyone's doing now. I feel like everyone's taking selfies, even

1461
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: for normal like at the grocery store, like, hey, we're

1462
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: out the house.

1463
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 2: Can you believe it? And we can't either. This is insane.

1464
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, they they were kissing and taking a selfie

1465
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: at the same time, and we caught them in the

1466
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: middle of that.

1467
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: So that's what we do. We love to see it.

1468
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: They also went on one of those boats through like

1469
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: a canal. What was that like a gondola, Yeah, something

1470
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: like that. It looked like a gondola or something. That's

1471
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: what does this This baby might be something. Man, that

1472
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: thing is kitted out. Look, it's got a little silver

1473
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: horses and shit on it.

1474
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: High. That's that's pimped out. But yeah, they had some

1475
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: drinks and they were just chilling and uh yeah.

1476
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: She also said that her and her daughter, her baby daughter,

1477
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: have similar teeth, which makes sense because that's her baby.

1478
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: Uh you know, we got your adult chick lit.

1479
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: That would be funny if it just had adult Why.

1480
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 4: Is that part of the story that they she thinks

1481
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 4: they have similar teeth.

1482
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: That's what white people knew this.

1483
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 3: It's just random, random things.

1484
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. It makes you feel lighter.

1485
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: You know, you want to get freaked out.

1486
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: You don't have to.

1487
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 5: But if you ever want to google a baby's head

1488
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 5: x ray and you see all of the teeth that

1489
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 5: they'll ever have are in their head as a baby

1490
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 5: in that X ray.

1491
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't want to google it, but yes, that

1492
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: would freak me out. Did not know that that was

1493
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: a holding hands walking down the street, So you love

1494
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: to see that. I do that as well, telling you

1495
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: they're just like us, and it's good to see them

1496
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: out being happy. You know, we're always rooting for Katy.

1497
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 2: Perry and Orlando Bloom.

1498
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: Let's see uh uh the future Queen of nether of

1499
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:10,919
Speaker 1: the Netherlands, okay, which, ever, since I watched gamer throngs,

1500
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: I find loyalty to be so boring.

1501
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: There's just no fucking dragons.

1502
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 4: No dragons.

1503
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: Like the days when they were just like off with

1504
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: his head and shit are so far behind us.

1505
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: Yes they are, man, they don't have no power now anyway.

1506
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 4: There are white walkers, but it's just people, you know.

1507
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like this is me and my white

1508
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: entourage walking.

1509
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 3: This is what we do now.

1510
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 5: We blessed things we take pictures. We just saw Katy

1511
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 5: Perry and Orlando Bloom. They were white walkers in that final.

1512
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: So the future Queen of the Netherlands has turned down

1513
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: almost two.

1514
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 2: Million dollars allowance because he just turned eighteen.

1515
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: So I guess she's having her gap year before starting college,

1516
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: which is also interesting because it's like, man, princesses got

1517
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: to go to college.

1518
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: That sucks. I mean, hopefully she just really really wants

1519
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: to go to college.

1520
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, she don't have to.

1521
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope she didn't feel like the pressure of society,

1522
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: like I gotta do something. I can't just be a princess.

1523
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: I gotta fucking thing.

1524
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: Don't work out.

1525
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 4: It's doctor princess to you, doctor princess.

1526
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, she's the heir to the Dutch throne and

1527
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: she's waving her right to her healty annual allowance. The

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Speaker 1: eldest daughter of King Willem Alexander and Queen the Maxima,

1529
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: sent a handwritten letter to the Dutch Prime Minister Mark

1530
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: Root on Friday, informing him of her decision to turn

1531
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: down nearly two million dollar allowance until she takes up

1532
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: royal duties on December.

1533
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 3: She want to be free. She was like, Nah, y'all

1534
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: keep that money. I'm gonna do what I want to do.

1535
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: Maybe your family just got money.

1536
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 3: She I don't want the overall obligations.

1537
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: On the seventh of December twenty twenty one, I'll be

1538
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: eighteen according to the law receiving allowance, She said in

1539
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: a letter, I find that uncomfortable as long as I

1540
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: do not do anything for it in return, and while

1541
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: other students have much tougher time of it, particularly in

1542
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 1: this period of coronavirus. She added that she intended to

1543
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: take a gap year before starting her undergraduate studies. She

1544
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: said she would repay the nearly four hundred thousand dollars

1545
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 1: she was entitled to during her time as a student,

1546
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 1: and would not claim the one point six million dollars

1547
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: in expenses until I incur high costs in my role

1548
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: as Princess of Orange, so very physically responsible princes.

1549
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: I believe, yeah, she could.

1550
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 5: I mean, she could have taken it and donated it

1551
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,959
Speaker 5: to people, but maybe she's doing that on her own anyway.

1552
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 5: But I also, oh, had something about oh yeah, a

1553
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 5: friend of mine had a daughter years ago and was

1554
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 5: trying to be very active and like, you know, sort

1555
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 5: of classic way to raise a dog her like you know,

1556
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 5: old schools, like, oh, my little princess, Daddy's little princess.

1557
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 5: But he's like, you know, we don't we don't want

1558
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 5: to like focus too much on like the idea that that.

1559
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 4: A girl is only to be you know, uh like

1560
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 4: you know, praised and like, oh.

1561
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: Your highness.

1562
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 5: But so he's like, oh, daddy's little physicist, you know,

1563
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 5: daddy's little uh that is.

1564
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: Future scientist, Daddy's little doctor.

1565
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 5: Right, that is nice, Doctor Princesses. I think right on

1566
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 5: the right, on the right page, Doctor Princes.

1567
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: I like that someone's gonna end up making that cartoon

1568
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: Network cartoon and it's gonna be awesome.

1569
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I will play a video game called Doctor Princess.

1570
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Doctor Princess, like doctor Mario. Yeah. Yeah. Ann That Armas

1571
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: moves on from ben Affleck. She is now dating uh

1572
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: Tender executive Paul Boca Decas.

1573
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 5: You know, I don't Tender executive. I never even thought

1574
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 5: about the fact that Tinder has people that made.

1575
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: It and he ain't have a girlfriend until now, which

1576
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: is why does your app even work?

1577
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: Bro?

1578
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: Do you even use that thing?

1579
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 3: He was like, no, I don't use my app like.

1580
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm on Riah, He's like, gosh, I met

1581
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 2: her own bumble, I met her own plenty of fish

1582
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: is very embarrassing. Farmer's only is how I'm I didn't

1583
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: see it coming either.

1584
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, I never thought about this, but I hope

1585
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 5: that other people haven't thought of this already. But my

1586
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: new app coming soon is a it's farmers only fans.

1587
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: I don't even want to know what happens on farmers

1588
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 2: only fans.

1589
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 5: I gotta, I gotta think about it. I guess it's

1590
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 5: like only fans, but it's only farmers.

1591
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: So it's yes, I can see it.

1592
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 3: I can see that right now, y'all. Can y'all came

1593
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 3: to see me farm that ass?

1594
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: It's just still have just as many hoes.

1595
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, come on right, that's perfect.

1596
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: Actress Anna the Armis has moved on from Ben Affleck

1597
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: is not well. Did you move on from him? Or

1598
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: did he move on with j Low? Okay, the earth

1599
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: is healing everything that's old, it's new. It's no shame

1600
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: in it. But she's moved on from Ben Affleck. She's

1601
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: now dating tender VP Paul Boca Dacas. Multiple sources have

1602
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: exclusively confirmed the page six The Knobs Out. Actress di Armis,

1603
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: who dated Affleck after they met on the set of

1604
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: the thriller Deep Water in early twenty twenty. Through January

1605
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: of this year, has been quietly seeing handsome tech exec

1606
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: booka well.

1607
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 2: Is that part of the sources too? The sources exclusively

1608
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: confirmed He's.

1609
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: Like, can you add handsome? I would like to exclusively

1610
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: confirm that as well. They've been dating for a few months.

1611
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: They were introduced through friends. He's also not on tender

1612
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: See he missed the golden opportunity. He's based in Austin,

1613
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: but split his time between Texas and Cinta Monica. He

1614
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: has been spending a lot of time with Anna before

1615
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: she left to the US to film her new movie.

1616
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know things are going well with the

1617
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: new couple.

1618
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 5: Yay if I may, I know if we're all familiar

1619
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 5: with benefer as the the portmanteau combination of Jennifer and

1620
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 5: and Ben.

1621
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: But I wish it was the other way. I wish

1622
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: it was be low. They should do that for part too.

1623
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like y relationship, why are we still using

1624
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,520
Speaker 2: the old monikers?

1625
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1626
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of I'm with that.

1627
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 4: I like b Low Low for short.

1628
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's low but he's spelled be Low.

1629
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

1630
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: D C Comics.

1631
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a comic book reader. Same well, d

1632
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: C Comics cause, oh oh.

1633
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 2: This is I'm so excited. Oh god, I know what

1634
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: this is. See White People News.

1635
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 3: It's magical.

1636
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: It's fucking magical.

1637
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay, DC Comics, Yes, cut a scene from the animated

1638
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: HBO Max series.

1639
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: Harley Quinn, which we love.

1640
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 3: Harley Quinn is the fucking best.

1641
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: I love Harley Quinn, so good, so funny.

1642
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: Well, they cut a scene that showed Batman performing oral

1643
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: sex on Catwoman, with the claim that heroes don't do that.

1644
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 3: Have they read comics?

1645
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 4: Only heroes do that, right, It's like only villains don't

1646
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 4: do that.

1647
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: I think they said in.

1648
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Their own movie either die hero you live long enough

1649
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: to be like I don't eat pussy.

1650
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 5: And you know Ben Affleck, who played the Batman, you

1651
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 5: know he could say that is below me.

1652
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 6: Because and my thing is for those of you to

1653
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 6: watch that show, you go, well, that should fit right

1654
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 6: in with the with the the show, Like I don't understand.

1655
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: I really would one of the Ben Affleck should do like,

1656
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: just like an Instagram love, just a real quick one

1657
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: to just be like or TikToker something and be like, actually, guys,

1658
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: Batman does and then it.

1659
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: Just does it.

1660
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, especially with it being Catwoman, it's like

1661
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 5: the perfect I mean, you know, the oldest pun in

1662
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 5: the book. But it doesn't make the thing the article

1663
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 5: that I read about it, because here I saw some

1664
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 5: tweets on about it on on Twitter before I knew

1665
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 5: what it was about, and I was like, why are

1666
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 5: multiple people talking about Batman and Conna Lingis And so

1667
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 5: I just googled Batman and I was like, oh, there's

1668
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 5: the news and that's the way. It's sort of like

1669
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 5: a Jeopardy of Twitter Current Events Jeopardy. It's like, what

1670
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 5: is happening and oh, I have the answer now. But

1671
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 5: the article I read said that they're like DC like, look,

1672
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 5: we have toys, kids buy toys. I'm like, they have

1673
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 5: no business watching Holly Queen. I mean, I mean, come on, guys,

1674
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 5: right it arm, Yes, you have a cussing plant.

1675
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

1676
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 1: And why would you even do the show in the

1677
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: first place? Right, It's such a nonsensical argument. It's like,

1678
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: unless they're gonna be.

1679
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 2: Like heroes don't do that. They eat ass. Oh my god,

1680
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 2: that's good.

1681
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 5: It's also like the same kind of you know, hypocrisy

1682
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 5: that like back to I feel like the first time

1683
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 5: I was like maybe aware of it as an adult.

1684
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.

1685
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 5: Like when Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl like had

1686
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 5: a quote wardrobe malfunction and for a split second we

1687
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 5: see like one part of her naked upper body and

1688
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,799
Speaker 5: people are like, hey, I'm trying to watch a wholesome

1689
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 5: activity full of men bashing into each other violently getting

1690
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 5: concussions and brain damage. Like look, America's about violence, not

1691
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 5: about very you know, not about enjoying a human form,

1692
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 5: like like violence is normalized, and like sex.

1693
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 3: And love.

1694
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: Between the beer commercial, the rectile dysfunction commercial, the like

1695
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: all this other stuff that they're like, my kids need

1696
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: to see this, okay, they need to know you can

1697
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: get drunk.

1698
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 2: They need to see the They need to see the

1699
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: Sendy Crawford ad where she's like have naked drinking a coke.

1700
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: They need that.

1701
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: But what they don't need is a split second of

1702
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: a nipple that they may have possibly seen, may not

1703
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 1: And and.

1704
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 5: With Batman, I mean like like it's fine for a

1705
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 5: guy to get like his fate half his face melted

1706
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 5: off with acid. It's fine for like like millions of

1707
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 5: people to be poisoned whatever, you know, Like people are

1708
01:22:55,160 --> 01:23:02,839
Speaker 5: murdered and tortured. Batman himself essentially brutalized all people sometimes,

1709
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 5: just like for probably the victimless crime of drugs.

1710
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: I would I would love to see a cartoon where

1711
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: Batman is beating someone and then he's like, I don't

1712
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 1: use guns, and they're.

1713
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: Like, please shoot, just use the guns. That is better

1714
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 2: than the beating you are giving me.

1715
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 4: Will you make an exception, Batman?

1716
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 6: Yes, I would love to see a cartoon from the

1717
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 6: person who's getting beat up perspective, like like like sit

1718
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 6: there day, how they get up my nai own business.

1719
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Batman comes just whooped ass, Like

1720
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how I want to how to live

1721
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 3: after that.

1722
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: Like I want to see that they're like, listen, I'm.

1723
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: In the house, I don't have a job, I don't

1724
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: know when I'm getting my next meal.

1725
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: Righthah blah.

1726
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Batman sees me stealing some a sandwich and now I'm

1727
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: being mercilessully beating joker.

1728
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 3: Gives me a job because he's the only person just

1729
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: hiring right now. And now I go get my asked

1730
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 3: what my first down?

1731
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: You're like, oh god, I just wanted to eat tonight.

1732
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 5: Batman, do you have any connections to the billionaire Bruce Wayne.

1733
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 4: Could he set up a foundation of some kind people

1734
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 4: like me off the streets.

1735
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: He's like, the foundation is my fist. But yeah, so

1736
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: they took it out.

1737
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 6: Which is so doesn't make sense because you And the

1738
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 6: thing is, I'm tired of people blaming the kids for

1739
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 6: nothing that has nothing to do with the kids. If

1740
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 6: your kids is watching this, that's a whole we need

1741
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 6: to question you as a parent.

1742
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean there's a lot of superheroes taking.

1743
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: If they're really young, Like it doesn't make sense.

1744
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of superheroes that do that, like

1745
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: I would. I imagine they all did until just now.

1746
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: I thought they were all about they were giving and

1747
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: and they you know, cared about other people. Now I'm

1748
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: just like, so all the superheroes are assholes. So you're

1749
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,879
Speaker 1: telling me, like the Joker, it's more likely.

1750
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 2: The Riddler is down here.

1751
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 5: They're like, uh, actually, in the DC universe, that sex

1752
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 5: act doesn't exist.

1753
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: So I'm from Reality sixty nine and we on Earth

1754
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: sixty Okay, we give it, we take right. So that's

1755
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: how that's how they know.

1756
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: If someone tries to impersonate Batman, they're like, oh god,

1757
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm giving oral sex to somebody and that's not me.

1758
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 3: You're not the real You're not the real.

1759
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: But yes, I love Harley Quinn. They're getting another season.

1760
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: But I also love when these stories leak, where like

1761
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: people confirm like, yes, this is the ship we're dealing

1762
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: with on the other side of this.

1763
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it doesn't make any sense because it would

1764
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 6: literally probably go fit right in with the whatever the

1765
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 6: fuck that I.

1766
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: Guarantee it was funny as hell, you know, Like, I

1767
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: don't know, I love Harley Quinn. Harley Quinn feels like, uh,

1768
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: one of my favorite shows, The Venture Brothers. Yes, it

1769
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: feels like that to me. We're like, it's like if

1770
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: the Venture Brothers had the license to for all the

1771
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: characters so they can make like better jokes and stuff,

1772
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: or more jokes about stuff.

1773
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 6: We know.

1774
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: Michael Costello, Well, I won't lie. I don't know, Michael Costello.

1775
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I do either. Michael Costello from

1776
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 2: Project Runway. He was a star that uh says uh

1777
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 2: he wishes no ill.

1778
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: Will towards Chrissy Tagan and response to claims he humiliated

1779
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: the singer.

1780
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: So apparently.

1781
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: Christy Tagan was one of the people that came for him.

1782
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: Chrissy's been in her own thing where she just wrote

1783
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: a very long, lengthy apology for being a troll. It's

1784
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: on medium dot com. Is too long for the show,

1785
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: but I mean, obviously I accept apology. Any apology that's

1786
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: too long for me to read, I accept, you know

1787
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: what I mean because I ain't got I'm not reading

1788
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: you clearly are very sorry, and I don't have time.

1789
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: But she apologizes, and uh, we've talked about her before

1790
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: where it's an interesting thing for her where she used

1791
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: to be a troll twenty ten, twenty eleven, when Twitter

1792
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: just started, a lot of people were like that, yes

1793
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: they were.

1794
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: People, just really we.

1795
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: There were no considerations for mental health, There was no consideration.

1796
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: It was like what is funny to me and what

1797
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: can I get away with?

1798
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,560
Speaker 6: And it was like everything yes in real celebrities just

1799
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 6: to actually be run their own accounts.

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01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the separation, no one saw it getting as big

1801
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: as it has today. But you know, like a lot

1802
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: of people, she just kind of evolved over time. Everybody else, Yeah,

1803
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: most people don't keep We're not keeping track of most people, right,

1804
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: most people don't become chrazy tiking. She became a big

1805
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: name of on social media. She was like a social

1806
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: justice like advocate type of person. And at the same time,

1807
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: she never really deleted all her old stuff. She never

1808
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: really addressed it, and it just kind of like she

1809
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: just kind of got by, you know, and then one

1810
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: day somebody finally was like, Hey, what about that shit

1811
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: she used to say?

1812
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 2: And then the whole world was like, yeah, what about

1813
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: that she used to say?

1814
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: So then she had to go away, and you know,

1815
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: like she went away and came back, went away and

1816
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: came back, and then finally like she started losing like

1817
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 1: endorsements and losing opportunities to be on TV and stuff.

1818
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: So she issued this much longer apology and people, it's

1819
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: been interesting because I think people, for the most part,

1820
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I've moved on.

1821
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 3: We just said they never cared.

1822
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sad to say, but it's like you apologize,

1823
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: but everyone's just like we're mad about something else.

1824
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: Now excuse you.

1825
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: But Michael Costello, who's the former Project one Way star,

1826
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: said he's still waiting for Chrissy and anyone who bullied

1827
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: him to reach out to him now. His claim of

1828
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: bullying is interesting because what he says he was bullied

1829
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: over was someone falsely accused him of saying the N word,

1830
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 1: which I don't know if it's foss or not. But

1831
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: he said, I want to be clear, I do not

1832
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,799
Speaker 1: wish ill on anyone. We are all works in progress

1833
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: and we deserve the opportunity to prove that we can

1834
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: do better. But progress takes time. We must show through

1835
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: actions that we have changed. After I'll actually speak much

1836
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: louder than a ten minute apology written on a notepad.

1837
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: And so then the pictures of the DM he had

1838
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: with Chrissy Tegan showed up, and he asked Christy, because

1839
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 1: Chrissy was tweeting at the time, like you know, this

1840
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: dude said an word. We got to get him out

1841
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: of here.

1842
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 3: He's wrong, you know.

1843
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 2: And so he said, Christy, can I call you? She

1844
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: said no, I don't.

1845
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 1: I do not have anything to say to you. You

1846
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: will get what's coming to you. And then he said, Chrissy,

1847
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I've never called anyone the n words fake. Those fake

1848
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: images were photoshop from a former discrunt on deployee, and

1849
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: she said, good luck with that.

1850
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: Leaft my eyes.

1851
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: So I hope that story keeps you all, keeps your

1852
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: already dead career going. And then he kill his phone

1853
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: number in it. Please call me phone number. I'm suffering

1854
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: from this more than you can imagine. So many people

1855
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: are attacking me over this. It's a fake story, but

1856
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: your comment is adding more fuel to the fire. And

1857
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: she said, good, racist people like you deserve to suffer

1858
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 1: and die.

1859
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: You might as well be dead. Your career is over.

1860
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 2: Just watch.

1861
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: So he's accused Christy of a year's long campaign to

1862
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: get him blacklisted from the industry. She mistakenly thought he

1863
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: posted on the races in twenty fourteen. He says that

1864
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: the post turned out to be doctor and though he

1865
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: tried his damness to set the record straight with Chrissy,

1866
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: he claimed she instead used a power to get brands

1867
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 1: and companies to drop him. He says suffer so much

1868
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: from all of this that he did think about taking

1869
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: his own life, and he asked nothing takes away from

1870
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: the years of trauma being bullited and.

1871
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 2: Blacklisted in the industry. In the industry has left me.

1872
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm not out for revenge. I only wish the only

1873
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: speak my truth because I've been silenced for so long.

1874
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: So what was interesting then?

1875
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: As the worm turns update, British singer Leonna Lewis as

1876
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: now accused Michael Costello of humiliating her at a twenty

1877
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: fourteen charity event.

1878
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 6: This is something that mean you talked about for a

1879
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 6: lot of people. Everybody's holding water for somebody.

1880
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1881
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 6: So it's one of those things where people just let

1882
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 6: people cook and then whenever you come out, they be like,

1883
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 6: but you but but I heard, but you did that,

1884
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 6: you know, and they boys back down.

1885
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 3: That's why you got treat people right, Like lin, did

1886
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 3: you treat people right?

1887
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: You or just don't like be the person that's like, yeah,

1888
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: we gotta get them, Like you could do that one

1889
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: as well. You're like, that's unfortunate they just said that,

1890
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: but instead they're like, yeah, get her because they said

1891
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: something to me.

1892
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: One time and the song's like yeah, get wait, get

1893
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 2: him he said something to me, and.

1894
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: And so like I'm just waiting for like the update

1895
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: for Leonna Lewis is like Leona Lewis skipped me in

1896
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:07,799
Speaker 1: line to get breakfast.

1897
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: So how about that?

1898
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 5: And it's like, you know, how go ahead, Oh, just

1899
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 5: all the people that are saying, let's get them, let's

1900
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 5: get them.

1901
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: Yes, let's when you point one finger at people, you

1902
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: have at least three pointing back at you and a

1903
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: thumb pointing up in the air, which you can always

1904
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: take the high road.

1905
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 3: Caro, that's true. You know when you run into a

1906
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 3: room and everybody has a gun stand off?

1907
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 6: I think it's the DM stand off where everybody pulls

1908
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 6: out the dim and pulls out the nest. You know,

1909
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 6: you don't have everybody have the guns. You know, the

1910
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 6: bullet now is like the DM. I don't know why Snapchat.

1911
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 1: I don't know why they call it a Mexican stand

1912
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: on because I know, idea what it's Mexican about him?

1913
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: Either, that's what they call that.

1914
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: But it's yes, everyone, that's how everyone feels, right Mexican, Okay,

1915
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: that's what.

1916
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 2: They call it. I don't know, I don't know why.

1917
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: It's probably racist, but they like that's what it feels.

1918
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 3: Is this like big deal?

1919
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: What'd you say?

1920
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 4: No?

1921
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 2: But you said? But then I got some things about

1922
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, it's like in a Western or something. This

1923
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 2: is a reservoir dogs.

1924
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: It's a big trope where the people do the thing

1925
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: where they're like, uh, they're like like, Mike's about to

1926
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: kill me, and he's like, and you, son of a bitch.

1927
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna get yours. He pulls back the hammer

1928
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 2: of the gun and the car goes not so fast

1929
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 2: and then she's like, I got to cut on you, Mike,

1930
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 2: drop it, and then someone else comes in. That's what

1931
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 2: this film is like, but with shaming people socially.

1932
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 5: I told you yeah, like like a John wou movie.

1933
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,759
Speaker 5: Like I feel like in Face Off, it happens where guns, guns,

1934
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 5: guns and more guns.

1935
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: Yet it's like the lines around the block now of

1936
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: just people pointing guns at the person in front of

1937
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 1: them and then like lie, you son of a bitch,

1938
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: because if you cancel him, I'm gonna cancel you.

1939
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 2: Click click cancel.

1940
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 3: Who's that?

1941
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 2: It's me, Kevin Hart.

1942
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 4: You can't.

1943
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 3: I mean.

1944
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 4: I really I like that.

1945
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 5: I mean I don't know none of us knows what's

1946
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:12,560
Speaker 5: going on internally with any other person, like whether any apology,

1947
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 5: like how sincere it is like, because I mean I

1948
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 5: think it's good to offer people the opportunity, like to

1949
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 5: be to be open to the possibility that some people

1950
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 5: are actually learning and growing, because there's some people that

1951
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 5: when they're accused, they just double down and you know,

1952
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 5: they're like yeah and deny and they're like, you know,

1953
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 5: that didn't happen at all, and like some pips are

1954
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 5: rewarded with things like the presidency, and but there's people

1955
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 5: who are actually like, yes, I you know, I mean

1956
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 5: even from before, Like it's better that that woman went

1957
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 5: to the Holocaust Museum and did at least say the

1958
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 5: words regard. We don't know how much she feels those

1959
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 5: things or how much she's actually doing it to try

1960
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 5: to not be punished in some different way. But like,

1961
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 5: at least with these the situation, the things I've seen

1962
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 5: from Kissy Drigan, Chrissy Tagan and this guy who I've

1963
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 5: never heard of, Michael Costello, like at least the parts

1964
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 5: where they are like genuinely seeming to be like look

1965
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 5: like I believe that they are or were hurting, and

1966
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,600
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean like because you're hurting doesn't mean that

1967
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 5: you're also not hurting someone else potentially or have in

1968
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 5: the past with your words or actions. But that sometimes

1969
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 5: when we are hurt, that does lead us to have

1970
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 5: empathy later to understand being like, oh this made me

1971
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 5: feel this way. And I mean sometimes you just project

1972
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 5: it forward. You're just like, well, I'm going.

1973
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 2: To do this now.

1974
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 5: Maybe not actively explicitly, but sometimes that's just what happens,

1975
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 5: you know, the hurt people hurt people thing. But sometimes

1976
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 5: it really does lead a person to introspection and and

1977
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 5: be like, like one time I was on a podcast

1978
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 5: and the guy who's the host of the podcast, I think,

1979
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 5: the topic of like suicide came up and we were like,

1980
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 5: you know, not like completely making light of it, but

1981
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 5: there were some jokes that I was like, I just

1982
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 5: want to make sure that you know, I don't want

1983
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 5: if anyone out there is like struggling with suicidality, with

1984
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 5: mental illness, Like I don't want to only be making

1985
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 5: light of this topic that I know could be serious.

1986
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 5: And the guy, the host, who I think is a

1987
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 5: nice guy, He's like, Oh, don't worry, We're on my podcast,

1988
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 5: so if anyone gets in trouble, it's gonna be me.

1989
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm not concerned really about getting in

1990
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 5: trouble for what I'm saying like I legit, don't want

1991
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 5: to hurt a person's feelings, who's or or you know,

1992
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 5: pile on to somebody who might be experiencing something, which

1993
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 5: I'm sure that in the past I have when I

1994
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 5: haven't been as aware. Even now, I'm not fully aware

1995
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 5: of every every bit of impact my words have on

1996
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 5: another person. Right.

1997
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too because, like, uh, one of the

1998
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 1: things I'll listen to sometimes I'll find a podcast like

1999
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 1: with Someone's a Guess. I like listening to people who've

2000
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 1: actually been quote unquote canceled.

2001
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 2: I know nobody gets canceled. I like listening to people

2002
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 2: like that because and what they've learned from it.

2003
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 3: Yes, it's always something that they've learned.

2004
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: Especially those who are participated in harassing other folks, like

2005
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: because like a lot of what people call like canceling

2006
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 1: is really more like internet harassment but giving like a

2007
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 1: skew to be like.

2008
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 2: But for the good guys, you know.

2009
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 1: What I mean, Like we're harassing her and telling them

2010
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: to like kill herself, but it's because she said something first,

2011
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: so we're allowed to like you're a bitch, we hate you,

2012
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, that seems kind of like the

2013
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 1: thing that we're mad at herab I I was like, yeah, yeah,

2014
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: but she deserves it, right, And so it's been interesting

2015
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: watching this thing unfold with Christy Teagan because she was

2016
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: targeting people that she felt were uh ridiculed, Yeah, they

2017
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: would deserve to be ridiculed, And now she's the person

2018
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 1: that deserves to be ridiculed to a lot of these

2019
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 1: same people, and they're coming at her. One thing I

2020
01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: find interesting, though, is the Courtney Store and said this,

2021
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: and so did Michael Costello. The you didn't personally reach

2022
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: out to me, which I find interesting because it's like, uh,

2023
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: is that a thing? I don't know that that's always

2024
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: a thing you should do. I think now that the

2025
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: person has said it, maybe you do it. But I

2026
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't assume that if I.

2027
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,560
Speaker 2: Did something horrible to you, that the first thing you

2028
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 2: want to see is my face going right, hey, that

2029
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 2: horrible thing. Remember that horrible thing I did on that

2030
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: Because some people may be like, no, fuck you and

2031
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 2: fuck you forever and don't talk to me. Correct some

2032
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: people may be like, I do want to talk to you,

2033
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 2: so I.

2034
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Could see like, not that not being the first thing

2035
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: you're concerned with is like, let me personally reach out

2036
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: to you. But now that they've said it, I think

2037
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: I would reach out to someone that said, like I

2038
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 1: would like you to reach out to me about this.

2039
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Yes, certainly in that situation, I think that.

2040
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 5: I mean, I think this very much depends on like

2041
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 5: the individual circumstances and that there's no like broad universal

2042
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 5: ruling of like do reach out or don't reach out.

2043
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,959
Speaker 5: But like you know, in sort of like the recovery

2044
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 5: you know, like alcoholics anonymous idea, where like you apologize

2045
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 5: to people, you make amends. Like there's a thing in

2046
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 5: Judaism like on every yome keyboard they have atonement, like

2047
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 5: that's a time of year to reflect on anyone that

2048
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 5: you might have wronged in the past year, and you

2049
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 5: reach out to them. And I feel like in Judaism

2050
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 5: it's like you can reach out three times and if

2051
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 5: they don't respond, then stop. But also like kind of

2052
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 5: like read the room emotionally of the situation, like don't

2053
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 5: reach out with like a lengthy you know, a novel

2054
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 5: of an apology, like reach out potentially with like hey,

2055
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 5: I know you might not want to hear from me,

2056
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 5: and if that's fine, let me like don't respond or

2057
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 5: let me know. But if you, if you are open

2058
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 5: to me sharing you know, a larger apology like let

2059
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 5: me know, and I will deliver it for I feel

2060
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 5: like that isn't that would be like a fine thing,

2061
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 5: a fine place to start in most situations.

2062
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what I being on social media alone,

2063
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I've just seen it every way, you know what I mean,

2064
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Like I've seen a person did do that, and then

2065
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: someone was like, this person, don't apologize to me privately,

2066
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: say it in public like you said when you offended

2067
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: me or whatever. It's like, all right, they did that

2068
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: one wrong. Then it's like someone else, like you said

2069
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: it in public, You didn't say it in private, do you?

2070
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like I mean, and I

2071
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 1: would say this about all things such as either forgiveness,

2072
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: seeking forgiveness, apologize and all that stuff. It needs to

2073
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 1: be biased nature, and it has to be by necessity.

2074
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:42,919
Speaker 1: It's a selfish act because you're you're it's still.

2075
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 2: Gotta be about you. Like some people like your apologies

2076
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 2: all about you.

2077
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: It's like everyone's apology has to be about them because

2078
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do differently, right, Like whether someone accepts

2079
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 1: it or not is more about that person. If you

2080
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: if the only point of an apologies to have it accepted,

2081
01:40:57,800 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 1: then it's not really an apology.

2082
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 3: It's not.

2083
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 6: No.

2084
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: If the only point of uh, if the only point

2085
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: of changes to quote unquote, be forgiven that, I feel

2086
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: like that becomes like a like a goal in itself,

2087
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: that is a byproduct, like if you get that, that

2088
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 1: is beautiful and that's wonderful, and I love it.

2089
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: I love forgiving people. I love it. It's the best.

2090
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: But something even me forgiving them is my some of

2091
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 1: myself inness as well. But it's because it's really about

2092
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 1: me moving on. But that apology some is somewhat selfish

2093
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 1: because it has to be about you moving on and

2094
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. Even if this person says I

2095
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: hate your guts, I'm never gonna I'm never gonna message

2096
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: you again, chrisy Tigan, it can't be like well then

2097
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: fuck it, fuck my apology, back to trolling, Like no,

2098
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 1: it needed to be here anyway, and hopefully these people

2099
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:53,560
Speaker 1: will accept that.

2100
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 2: Yes, it's uh.

2101
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 5: I mean, ideally it's like two perfectly fitting together pieces

2102
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 5: of the amulet, where someone is truly sorry, truly repentant,

2103
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 5: makes that offering and optimally the other person like accepts it,

2104
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 5: believes it, and you know, and that the apology comes

2105
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 5: along with you know, introspection, self reflection, like atonement, you know,

2106
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 5: amends as possible, like whatever wrong was done, can it

2107
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 5: be righted?

2108
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 4: Or can moving forward?

2109
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 5: Like this is a very low stakes version of any

2110
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 5: of this, but like I had a girlfriend about ten

2111
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 5: years ago and like it wasn't it was a good

2112
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,839
Speaker 5: a good relationship for most of it, and we stopped

2113
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 5: being together. I broke up with her for like there

2114
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 5: was some incompatibilities that I mean, I think we're both

2115
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 5: happier not being together and living our lives and like

2116
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 5: we're not. I'm friends with many ex'es, but not this

2117
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 5: one very closely. But I remember like reaching out to

2118
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 5: her and apologizing for like, you know, the the parts

2119
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 5: of our interactions that I was like, oh, yeah, this

2120
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 5: would have been better if I had done things like

2121
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 5: like more more transparently, more openly, if I had you know,

2122
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 5: not said or did these specific things. And she was

2123
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 5: basically like, I appreciate it, and like I would have

2124
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 5: loved for it to be like a complete absolution, a

2125
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 5: complete and like and let's be friends again, like it's over.

2126
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 4: It's like it's done with, it's forgiven, it's forgotten, like

2127
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 4: forget it. Like we're great, we're both great.

2128
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 2: But that wasn't what it was.

2129
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 5: She was like, I appreciate your saying that, and like

2130
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 5: maybe moving forward now, hopefully you'll be able to not

2131
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 5: do the things you didn't that you didn't want to

2132
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 5: do in future relationships. I'm like, yeah, that's that's the

2133
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 5: best I mean, that was the best thing that It's

2134
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 5: what she wanted to do, It's what she wanted to say,

2135
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 5: and it it made sense like that. I mean, every

2136
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 5: situation is its own like independent like uh sort of

2137
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 5: ecosystem of the individual people involved, and like we can

2138
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 5: look from the outside and be like they should do that,

2139
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 5: they shouldn't do that. Like, but between the two people

2140
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 5: like of the you know, the the harming and the

2141
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 5: harmed party, like they're they're the they each get to

2142
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 5: decide for themselves, like how they live their lives and

2143
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,560
Speaker 5: whether they're going to come together on a situation like this.

2144
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 5: And uh, one last quick thing, the uh somebody in

2145
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 5: the comments brought up The Last Days of August, which

2146
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 5: is a John Ronson's podcast, and he also wrote this

2147
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 5: book about public shaming called I Think.

2148
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,759
Speaker 4: So you've been publicly shamed, and it's.

2149
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 5: Like it's really great, Like I mean, there's people have

2150
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 5: said or dumb things that seem like rightly somebody be like, hey,

2151
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 5: that's kinda that's kind of fucked up. But then when

2152
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 5: a billion, you know, a million people, when it trends

2153
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 5: and goes viral, then you have a million people telling you,

2154
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 5: uh that you fucked up like that, it gets to

2155
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 5: be like disproportionate and like mentally potentially unhealthy for uh

2156
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 5: individuals and perhaps everybody involved.

2157
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the things when uh, I always

2158
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of tense up a little bit when people say

2159
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: like cancel culture isn't real, because I'm like, well, maybe

2160
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 1: the names nowhere, but I've seen enough of the harassment

2161
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: of Sometimes even when it feels like a person deserves it,

2162
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: what how much deserve can there be?

2163
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2164
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: Like like because maybe you write some well reason like

2165
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 1: approach it, like hey, this thing you did is not

2166
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: good and you shouldn't do that. But if like there's

2167
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: a hundred of us and fifty of us call you

2168
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 1: just a bitch and you should kill yourself and fifty

2169
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 1: of us say here's a well reasoned, thought out think

2170
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: to the to the person receiving it, it's not gonna

2171
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, this is equally fair. Some people are upset,

2172
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: like it's hard for people to process that in the

2173
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Speaker 1: middle of that. You know, it's kind of like how

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Speaker 1: people say, well, we're educating someone. It's like, that's not

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01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: how people learn though for the most part, Like if

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01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: you went to college and your teacher came in, it

2177
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: was just like.

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01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 2: Kill yourself, you fat fuck you got the answer wrong.

2179
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: You'd be like, I'm going to quit this class and

2180
01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna learn whatever the fuck you just yelled

2181
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 1: at me. And so I think the Internet, for a

2182
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 1: large part is could have a lot of good things,

2183
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: but sometimes it can be this way for folks.

2184
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 2: And it's always interesting. Why, like I said, I like

2185
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 2: to listen to.

2186
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Quote unquote canceled people is because they've a lot of

2187
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 1: times they've just been on both sides and they're like, oh,

2188
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 1: when I was participating in this, I saw it totally

2189
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,760
Speaker 1: different than when I was the focal point of this.

2190
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: And even with me fucking up and going I gotta

2191
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 1: do better, I messed up. I now realized maybe I

2192
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't have came at other people expecting them to be

2193
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: better and what was going on inside of me that

2194
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: made me feel like that was okay to do this person,

2195
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 1: to dehumanize them and all that stuff. And I seem

2196
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: like Christy Tikins doing this in public in front of everybody,

2197
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 1: so we all get to see it. But I think

2198
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people who aren't famous individually should start

2199
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: thinking about this and evaluating their own behavior, because we

2200
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: participate in this and could contribute to it all the time.

2201
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and to go back about some things you were saying,

2202
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 6: when it comes to the two people where the infraction happens,

2203
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 6: you know, somebody did something, somebody forgives, and somebody doesn't forgive.

2204
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 6: I think that society has fooled people into thinking if

2205
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 6: I apologize, you have to accept, like like that's a

2206
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:20,440
Speaker 6: trick that society has told people that must happen. Sometimes

2207
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 6: both parties have to close the door. And sometimes closing

2208
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 6: that door, I mean we never speak to each other again,

2209
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 6: and that's something that each party has to accept. And

2210
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 6: sometimes people don't want to accept that that means the

2211
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 6: end of the relationship, and that's a very hard thing

2212
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 6: for some people to grasp.

2213
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 2: I agree.

2214
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 1: I think Also what's interesting we're we're all now public figures. Essentially,

2215
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 1: if you're on social media, the apologies almost have to

2216
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 1: be to the public now in addition to the person,

2217
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to think about, right, because like,

2218
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: if I did something publicly, I said something very messed

2219
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 1: up to Mike, everyone saw it. Every one comes down

2220
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,600
Speaker 1: on me and I'm disappointing you or you're terrible or

2221
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 1: kill yourself or whatever. If I probably go Mike, I

2222
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: was wrong, I'm sorry, and Mike goes, you know.

2223
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 2: What, I forgive you. Right, It's cool.

2224
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 1: The public is still gonna be like, fuck you, rod

2225
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: you like, oh oh, what did that? I caught this

2226
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 1: nigga breathing again, y'all. Let's get them like. It's that

2227
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 1: kind of thing that that that mentality, And it makes

2228
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: me think about that a lot, Like we get mad

2229
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 1: at the celebrity for apologizing to everyone, but then if

2230
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:33,600
Speaker 1: they don't, we just continue the sick sling arrows and

2231
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: stones at them.

2232
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 3: Yes, and also I think that.

2233
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 6: When an infraction has happened, at the end of the day,

2234
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 6: it's about the two people or parties involved. And actually

2235
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 6: nobody else actually matters. And that's the thing that the

2236
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 6: public doesn't understand, and the Internet doesn't understand. Your opinion

2237
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 6: and how you feel don't matter because all people are

2238
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 6: doing is projecting their past hurt and projecting their past

2239
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 6: pain and projecting that I was not forgiven, of projecting

2240
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 6: that I have done some fucked up ship like like

2241
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 6: that's all the Internet and these other outside people are

2242
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 6: doing when they actually have nothing to do with the

2243
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 6: infraction that happened, nor.

2244
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 3: Who forgives and doesn't forget.

2245
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 6: Because sometimes parties have apologized in public and in private

2246
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 6: and have moved on.

2247
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 3: But anytime certain people's name is bought up, they bring

2248
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 3: that ship up. They're mad. And then the people did

2249
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 3: it actually happened to. So that's when I began to realize, Oh,

2250
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 3: this is about you. This was never about the parties.

2251
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 2: This is not about the waffles. Yeah, about the pancakes,

2252
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 2: Not about that, That's what it was always about.

2253
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 3: It's about the sausage that's.

2254
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: Come up the whole therapy session.

2255
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 5: Right yeah, well, uh, the idea of forgiveness, Like I

2256
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 5: think what you said, Karen is I mean right on

2257
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 5: one hundred percent everything Rod fifty percent and uh and

2258
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 5: the other fifty fifty fifth fifties all around there's percent

2259
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 5: we're to two hundred and the idea that like, yeah,

2260
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 5: an apology gets offered, like it's if it comes from

2261
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 5: a good place, that's good for that person. And then

2262
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 5: the person who chooses to accept it or not, like

2263
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 5: that's up to them. You can also you can forgive

2264
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 5: a person whether or not they do apologize, and you

2265
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 5: can you can forgive a person and also not talk

2266
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 5: to them.

2267
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 4: You can forgive them from far away.

2268
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 5: Because like you're saying, like forgiveness, when you are the forgiver,

2269
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 5: that is for you, When you are the apologizer in

2270
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 5: a way that is for you.

2271
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:37,560
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, the I've added.

2272
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 2: A thing to this old thing that I like. The idea,

2273
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 2: the idea that.

2274
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 5: I didn't come up with is holding a grudge is

2275
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 5: like taking poison and then waiting for the other person

2276
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 5: to die. And then like the idea that I've I

2277
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 5: like to add is forgiveness. Forgiving someone is like taking

2278
01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 5: medicine and hoping that the other person gets healthy. Like

2279
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 5: you have no control over anyone else's actions, you hardly

2280
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:07,560
Speaker 5: have control over your own. If you're any control. You

2281
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 5: have control over your thoughts, your your actions. You don't

2282
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 5: have control over somebody else's. So it's like all any

2283
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 5: of us can do is look within and do our

2284
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 5: best and then people it's so funny you say this

2285
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 5: and as you're like, yeah, you should be looking within exactly,

2286
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 5: that's right.

2287
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I absolutely one hundred percent believe in that.

2288
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: Like that's why I said forgiveness is kind of a

2289
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: selfish thing, because that's what allows me to move on.

2290
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 1: So sometimes I've forgiven people that haven't apologized just because

2291
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this is what I think may have

2292
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: been going on with this person. I can't fully understand,

2293
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: but they were probably doing the best they can whatever's

2294
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: happened to them in the past, and our thing didn't

2295
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: work out, it didn't connect and cool. I have no harm,

2296
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,679
Speaker 1: no ill will towards you. I'm not gonna hold this grudge.

2297
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: If you're outliving your that's life. I hope you're living

2298
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 1: your best life.

2299
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 2: I see you doing. You know, whether whatever path you

2300
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 2: choose from here, I.

2301
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 1: Hope it goes well for you, because to me, it

2302
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 1: does feel like it weighs me down to hold ill

2303
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: will towards someone. I was asking Facebook this philosophical question,

2304
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 1: which was if we, for the most part agree hurt

2305
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: people hurt people?

2306
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 6: Right?

2307
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,640
Speaker 2: I think pretty much everyone agrees on that one. And

2308
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 2: I was like, well, then can heal people heal people? Yes?

2309
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: And then there are a lot of people that are like, no,

2310
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 1: just you heal the by staying the funk away and

2311
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And I was like, but I feel

2312
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: like everyone who's been hurt some I said, so has

2313
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:48,440
Speaker 1: everyone who's been hurt by necessity had to heal themselves

2314
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 1: by themselves somebody? Or have you ever met someone that

2315
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 1: helped you find that pathway back to you know, healing.

2316
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 6: Right to being whole again, Because like, I can't speak

2317
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 6: for anybody else, but that is a true statement. And

2318
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 6: that's the part that people skip. When people are hurt,

2319
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 6: they don't want to be healed a lot of people

2320
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 6: that are hurt. And I've been there. I've been so

2321
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 6: hurt and so in my own mind and in such

2322
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 6: a dark place that when people extended a hand it

2323
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 6: actually looks like pain to me. They're extending a hand

2324
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 6: going I'm trying to help you, and I would beat

2325
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 6: it and knock it away.

2326
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 3: So a lot of people saying no. They're saying no

2327
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 3: from a hurt place.

2328
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 6: And when you hurt and you can't see the light, no,

2329
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 6: you don't feel like nobody's gonna be able to help you.

2330
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 6: But eventually something happens, something changes, something shakes, and the

2331
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 6: light comes through.

2332
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 3: And when it does, it's gonna be from somebody. A

2333
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 3: lot of times it's on the other side of.

2334
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 6: What you've been through, Like whatever you're been through, it's

2335
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 6: somebody that has walked that path before. You just don't

2336
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 6: see it because selfishly, when something happened to us, we

2337
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 6: think that we're the only person that this experience has

2338
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 6: ever happened to, and nobody else in the light. Even

2339
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 6: though there's hundreds of thousands and millions of people on

2340
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 6: the world and there's people in that hundreds, we think

2341
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 6: that we are the only person that have ever experienced this,

2342
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 6: and nobody can understand and nobody can comprehend the thing

2343
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 6: that we're going through. And you start talking, or somebody

2344
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 6: reaches out or somebody does something, and sometimes it's a

2345
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 6: slow change, but I can be a witness that, Yeah,

2346
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 6: once I got to a place where I was healed,

2347
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 6: I could see me and other people, and I would

2348
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 6: reach out, you know, if they accepted it or not,

2349
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 6: it's a whole different thing. But I would reach out

2350
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 6: because I'm healed, so I can see past your heart,

2351
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 6: I can see past your pain. I can look through

2352
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 6: all the excuses. I can I can ignore the behavior,

2353
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 6: like because I understand that.

2354
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 1: People that have taken the journey before can see where

2355
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 1: you're at on that path. I think a lot of times,

2356
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 1: and I think that is kind of a u and obviously,

2357
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: every no single human beings like I'm healed from everything.

2358
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm just ins if someone is kind of done to

2359
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: work to to like to to heal themselves in certain

2360
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 1: areas or to find some type of balance, I.

2361
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 2: Think that can be beneficial.

2362
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, there's definitely been things that

2363
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I've was look at, like your parents or something. For

2364
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: those of us that have had like, you know, a

2365
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: dope parents. I can't speak for everybody, but like you know,

2366
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 1: there's things where I'm like, this thing is terrible or

2367
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 1: something my dad's like I've been there before. Let me

2368
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: tell you about this thing, you know, and it's like, oh,

2369
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: because of that, it helped me to get to a

2370
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 1: place where I was able to find balance that I

2371
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't have necessarily on my own, or I may have

2372
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 1: been off balance forever.

2373
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 2: Who knows.

2374
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 5: I like, I like everything that you're saying. I like

2375
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 5: that you said preach, and I feel like we're all

2376
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 5: doing public relations for one another. We are each and sincerely.

2377
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 5: The the thing that you said that, it's so I

2378
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 5: love that. I mean, I wish I had I wish

2379
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 5: I thought of it. But the idea like healed people

2380
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 5: heal people, it's not that every hurt person hurts. I mean,

2381
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 5: we all like every but in life, like there is,

2382
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 5: we're all receiving and you know, paying forward like different

2383
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 5: kinds of you know, like there's very few people alive

2384
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 5: who have never been hurt nor like said or done

2385
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 5: a hurtful thing. Right, So the fact is that like

2386
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Speaker 5: it's not even that there's a distinction between like hurt people.

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Speaker 4: Over here and heal people over here.

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01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 5: Like a healed person is like a former hurt person

2389
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 5: or a still currently hurt person.

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Speaker 4: So hurt people can heal people.

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01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 5: That's like a hurt and healed person can heal, but

2392
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 5: the same way that not all hurt people hurt people.

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Speaker 2: The same way and the same quality and quantity.

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Speaker 5: Not all healed people are able to in a moment

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Speaker 5: heal every person of their hurt in that moment. It's

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Speaker 5: again like the amulet, right that there has to be

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01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 5: like an open you know, in an offering and a

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01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 5: willingness to receive like that have to align, that have

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01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 5: to click into place, uh, like you know, opening a

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 5: safe be like oh you got to you gotta have

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01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 5: all of the tumblers in order for that. So like

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01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 5: and it has to come from, you know, within each person.

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01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 5: But for sure, like if you yeah, I mean just

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Speaker 5: everything that you that.

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Speaker 2: Y'all said, Like I saw that there were people who

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01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 2: were kind of like no, but I really was, like

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Speaker 2: especially for people who believe in like redemption, people that

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01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 2: believe in like like dream.

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Speaker 1: Of a.

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 2: System in America that's about justice and fairness and not

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Speaker 2: like not playing it.

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01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 1: Like, if you believe in those ideals restorative justice out

2413
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: of stuff, you have to some level believe that the

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Speaker 1: people who work in that industry can be people that

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01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 1: help people find healing, right, you know, And and obviously

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01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 1: no person is a solid state, so we're all at

2417
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 1: different areas. There's maybe I'm healed from healed quote unquote,

2418
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: maybe I found some balance or whatever when it comes

2419
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 1: to like how I approach my sobriety, but maybe not

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01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: with my anger, my temper or something, and there's and

2421
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 1: someone can help with that, but I do. It just

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01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 1: made me think about that because I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: I really was, like I was surprised how many people

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01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 1: just outright were like, no, the only thing you can

2425
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Speaker 1: do is be by yourself for yourself, because you're healed,

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01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 1: you won the race, get away from everyone before they

2427
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: fuck it up. And I'm like, yeah, but there's something

2428
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 1: like how Superman's best power is that he can get

2429
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: beat up, you know what I mean?

2430
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 2: Like that, like everyone thinks of Superman is how strong

2431
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 2: he is.

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01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm like every Superman cartoon, comic movie is just him

2433
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: getting his ass looked for most of it, and he's

2434
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 1: just the indestructible I can take an ass with in

2435
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: dudes like here's Kryptone, I'm gonna beat your ass and

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01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 1: it's like yes, and eventually you'll it's like you'll be

2437
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: all tired out and then we'll then we'll find a

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Speaker 1: to this problem.

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01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 5: Is not just me punching you right, know me in

2440
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 5: for people who who said no, so strongly, dude, like that,

2441
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 5: can can another person help heal you?

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Speaker 6: Like?

2443
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 5: None, I mean, none of us exist in a vacuum.

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01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 5: None of us exist out in a closed system without

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01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 5: other beings.

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01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 4: And it's not to say that like some.

2447
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 5: People don't have more challenges or harder lives or fewer

2448
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 5: loved ones, but uh, most of us. I mean I

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01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 5: feel like, can you look around, are there any stories

2450
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 5: in your life or in history anywhere of healing happening,

2451
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 5: Like you know, you could look at like Sarah Silverman,

2452
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 5: you know, a few years ago, like somebody called her

2453
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 5: the C word online and she looked at Instead of

2454
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 5: reacting angrily, she was like, where's this coming from? Looked

2455
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 5: at his feed and like was like, oh, it seems

2456
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 5: like he's in pain, like physical pain. He was like

2457
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 5: didn't have enough money or insurance for like back surgery

2458
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,680
Speaker 5: that he needed, and she like started she like continued

2459
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 5: a dialogue with him, be like I don't remember exactly

2460
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 5: what she said, but she was like, are you like

2461
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 5: can I help you? And I think she did help

2462
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 5: and he like they became like friendly like that clearly

2463
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,720
Speaker 5: he was reaching out to hurt her because he was

2464
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Speaker 5: hurt and she is a person who has experienced enough

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Speaker 5: enough healing in her own experience that she didn't like

2466
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Speaker 5: sink to his level. She didn't just yell back at

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Speaker 5: him or ignore him. She saw it as you know,

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02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 5: a call for love, right, a call like he had need.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And speaking of that, like, I have one period

2470
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 6: of time in my life I was like that where

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Speaker 6: if Roger would act that, I said no because I

2472
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 6: was so hurt. I didn't want people around me. I

2473
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 6: didn't want to be bothered with people. I just wanted

2474
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 6: to kind of shut myself into shale and cut people off,

2475
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Speaker 6: you know.

2476
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 3: And so because like somebody does something and you allow

2477
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 3: that scar to dictate the rest of your life.

2478
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was so healed that I helped Karen

2479
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 2: to find healing.

2480
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 1: And the other thing that's interesting too, now that we

2481
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 1: all have like the Internet, we have our own like

2482
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 1: fans kind of like not just us as podcasts, I

2483
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:19,040
Speaker 1: mean people just in the world.

2484
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:21,280
Speaker 2: Regardless of what you do for a living. If you

2485
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 2: have the Internet and people choose to.

2486
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 1: Follow you or whatever, it's like you have these observers

2487
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 1: in your life and for the most part they support

2488
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 1: what you do. Yes, So if I were you know,

2489
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think people walk around thinking of themselves

2490
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 1: as hurt and healed in general, Like you have to

2491
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 1: do a lot of self analysis. Sit Sometimes you don't

2492
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 1: even know you hurt until you find something later to

2493
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 1: be like oh wait wait a minute.

2494
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes until somebody else points it out.

2495
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you know, sometimes you need that person or

2496
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 1: that or that moment to be like, wait a minute,

2497
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 1: this is I'm not I'm off bout not hurt.

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02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not hurt for you, So, like you

2499
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:57,440
Speaker 2: sometimes you need that.

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Speaker 1: And I think of a lot of times it is

2501
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 1: hurt talking when it's like isn't it possible to help

2502
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 1: someone who's hurt or or you know whatever. I'm not

2503
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 1: saying it's every case of the same, but I think

2504
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 1: that the general idea, I wouldn't just dismiss it out

2505
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 1: of hand, right, But yeah, there were a lot of.

2506
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 2: People that were doing to like hurt people, hurt healed people.

2507
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:19,920
Speaker 2: So he'll people shouldn't help hurt people. And I was

2508
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 2: just like, well, if you wear heels all day, your

2509
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 2: feet will hurt people, your hurt yourself, so be careful

2510
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 2: out there.

2511
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Speaker 3: Rod.

2512
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Speaker 2: That's silly.

2513
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 5: And the thing you said earlier that I want to

2514
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 5: go back to briefly is when you said to you,

2515
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 5: sometimes you forgive people who haven't apologized because it helps

2516
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 5: you that is compassionate to yourself and potentially to them

2517
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 5: to others. And I forget if we've talked about Brene Brown,

2518
02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 5: you know you brought her up before, but go ahead,

2519
02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:58,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, just so, probably reiterating that the research

2520
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:01,880
Speaker 5: that she's done that demonstrates that the most compassionate people

2521
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 5: are the people who have the best boundaries and who

2522
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 5: believe truly that everyone is doing their best. And you know,

2523
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:12,760
Speaker 5: like the best, like a child's best is different than

2524
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 5: an adult's best. A person who is raised in really

2525
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 5: adverse circumstances, their best is different than a person who

2526
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 5: is potentially raised you know, with like a more loving

2527
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Speaker 5: surrounding environment. Uh, and so everyone's best isn't the same.

2528
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 5: You know, if you're taller, you can probably dunk more

2529
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,760
Speaker 5: easily than if you're shorter. And some of us, you know,

2530
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 5: have been nurtured and natured differently, all of us. But

2531
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Speaker 5: the idea that everyone is at any moment doing their best.

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Speaker 2: I fundamentally believe that. And also it's for me.

2533
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Speaker 1: I found it to be relieving to allow that, because

2534
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 1: I think if you believe in people's darker nature all

2535
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 1: the time, there's a desert what you do to yourself

2536
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 1: because it makes you feel like, uh, everyone's out to

2537
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 1: get me or everything.

2538
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 2: Every you meant this in a bad way, no matter

2539
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 2: how it came across.

2540
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 1: Where there's been stories we cover on the show where

2541
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 1: we've aired on the side of like, well, what let's

2542
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,640
Speaker 1: start with maybe what if they didn't mean it the

2543
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 1: way that it came across.

2544
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 2: Let's start and work backwards, because maybe we'll work backwards

2545
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:26,200
Speaker 2: and go, there's no other way you can mean that shit,

2546
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:29,280
Speaker 2: that's pretty bad. Or maybe we'll you know, or maybe

2547
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 2: we'll we'll be able to kind of deduce like, oh,

2548
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 2: this is where this went wrong. They meant to say this.

2549
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 1: They said that, and now that everyone wants to kill them.

2550
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:41,839
Speaker 1: But if we work backwards, we'll see that maybe this happened.

2551
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: And I think allowing myself that has really allowed me

2552
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,520
Speaker 1: to have, like one to have a better perspective on

2553
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 1: stuff and just to kind of see more have more

2554
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 1: empathy for folks, you know, and some some of the

2555
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:57,560
Speaker 1: some of the stuff obviously is that like I could

2556
02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:00,000
Speaker 1: see there's situations where it's like this is too dangerous

2557
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:04,320
Speaker 1: for me, Like I would never be w cam Abel

2558
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: like meeting with the Klan to like talk to them

2559
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,880
Speaker 1: about their Like I'm not that level. Like I'm like, oh,

2560
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 1: good for you, man, I'm gonna stay back here. But

2561
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, like some but there's a lot of stuff

2562
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 1: where just like some celebrity says something and I'm just like,

2563
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: that's not about me, you know what I mean, Like

2564
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 1: whatever they're going through, whatever they just said, even if

2565
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 1: I disagree with it, that line started somewhere to get

2566
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:28,160
Speaker 1: them to this moment. And it's probably not just I'm

2567
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:33,520
Speaker 1: an evil person. I woke up evil, I decided to Day'll.

2568
02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 2: Know, I'm an evil motherfucker. I don't give a fuck

2569
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 2: no more, Like that's not probably.

2570
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were a baby and maybe they still are.

2571
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:42,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they still make they're a maybe baby. All right,

2572
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 2: y'all if you want to see Mike Caplan, Mike tell

2573
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Speaker 2: them where to go.

2574
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Speaker 5: Oh sure, Mike Caplan spelled the weird way I spelled it.

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Speaker 5: M y q K A p l A n dot

2576
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Speaker 5: com is my website, got all my tour dates and

2577
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Speaker 5: upcoming things.

2578
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Speaker 2: Also that me on social.

2579
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Speaker 5: Media at Mike Kaplan all the places, my newest newsletter

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Speaker 5: if you want to get things once a week for free,

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Speaker 5: online and in person and live podcasts and things.

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Speaker 4: That's Mike Kaplan dot substack dot com.

2584
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Speaker 5: And then of course my my podcasts that my Broccolian

2585
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Speaker 5: ice Cream that Rod and Karen have both separately been

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Speaker 5: on in recent months, delightful conversations both that's Broccolian ice

2587
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2588
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2589
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Speaker 5: And then oh and I'm a stand up comedians. That's

2590
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Speaker 5: the main the main thing I talked about the live shows,

2591
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Speaker 5: and also my albums are all where stand up comedy

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Speaker 5: albums are the most recent ones called A K A.

2593
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Speaker 5: And I hope you, I hope you listen to everything

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Speaker 5: that I've ever said, but that would be if you

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Speaker 5: only want to start with one hour. That's a fine

2596
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Speaker 5: place to go and reach out to me anywhere on

2597
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Speaker 5: social media or my email. I like, uh, I like

2598
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Speaker 5: talking to people, and I always like talking to y'all.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me and Uh, listen,

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Speaker 1: Denica if you want to hear more, Karen, check out broccoli.

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Speaker 2: And ice cream.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I did a lot of talking.

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Speaker 2: He was over there talking to fix.

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Speaker 3: All right, out talked Mike. Can you believe that?

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Speaker 2: All right? We'll be back tomorrow. Mike is always delight

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Speaker 2: to talk to you. Is chat room.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for chiming in and hanging out with us,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, until then, I love you, I love

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Speaker 1: you too.

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Speaker 2: I love you