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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: this Wednesday. Joining us on the phones now is our

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Speaker 2: good friend Chris Hallick, of course, covers the Steelers for

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Speaker 2: dk Pittsburgh Sports. Chris, thank you for taking the time

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Speaker 2: and joining us. As always, we kind of were starting

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Speaker 2: the show today with the news of the day in

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Speaker 2: the first segment before we had you on. Sounds like

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Speaker 2: the Steelers could have found their man for Mike McCarthy's

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Speaker 2: first offensive coordinator here on his Steelers' staff Brian and Jelico,

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Speaker 2: past game coordinator in tight ends, coach from the Vikings

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Speaker 2: who has a history with McCarthy in the past. What

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Speaker 2: are you hearing on this front? Does this seem like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're just kind of waiting for it to

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Speaker 2: be official or is there you know, still plenty that

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Speaker 2: that that that can change in this process.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm pretty sure this is this is being a

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Speaker 3: finalized thing. It's just it's just a matter of time

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Speaker 3: before before the team does their whole little little thing

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Speaker 3: where they sent up the graphic and everything. But listen,

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Speaker 3: it makes a lot of sense if they if they

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Speaker 3: weren't gonna go with it with Scott Tolzen, who who

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Speaker 3: did interview for the job, who I thought was a

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Speaker 3: pretty a pretty good candidate for the job, this makes

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Speaker 3: a lot of sense, not just because of the previous

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Speaker 3: ties to McCarthy uh or or the fact that he

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Speaker 3: used to coach a Pitt, but I mean, listen, this

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Speaker 3: is this is a guy who he's fifty three years old.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's been around the block a few times,

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Speaker 3: but he's also been coaching, you know, under Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 3: who's one of the more respected offensive minds in the

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Speaker 3: game for the last four years, and can help provide

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Speaker 3: I think maybe some some you know, fresh ideas, you know,

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Speaker 3: for what McCarthy wants to do on offense.

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Speaker 4: So, Chris, you sent me the other day a very detailed,

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Speaker 4: well written scouting report on Drew Aller, the Penn State quarterback,

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Speaker 4: and I assume you'll be doing more. Urge everyone to

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Speaker 4: check that out. I wonder if you could give me

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Speaker 4: the thumbnail scouting report on Wesley Yuler as a pond hockey.

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Speaker 2: Player, big big text, getting right into it, getting his

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Speaker 2: first foray out on a Pennsylvania pond with me this

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Speaker 2: past weekend.

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Speaker 4: What kind of skeels does a young fella have.

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Speaker 3: Wes is a better skater than me, that's for sure. Okay,

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Speaker 3: his edgework is is more refined than mine.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well said, But I think.

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Speaker 3: I think I might be a little bit more competitive

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Speaker 3: in terms of the stick checking and and everything in

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Speaker 3: that regard. I definitely had a few strips, not necessarily

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Speaker 3: of Wes in particular, but I will say Wes and

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Speaker 3: I teamed up in the last game that we played

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Speaker 3: in West snipe the game winner.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I missed that on Center this weekend.

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Speaker 2: It just missed the top, just miss the top, just

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Speaker 2: missed the cut for the top ten. I don't know

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Speaker 4: I think he's lucky that there weren't borde then mix

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Speaker 3: That's my job. Yeah, I'm the I'm the guy who

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Speaker 3: gets all the dirty work done on the corners, and uh,

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Speaker 3: I'll pave the way for the flashy guys like West

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Speaker 2: It's funny you said that, Matt, because I literally had

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Speaker 2: in my notes here last thing. Don't forget to ask

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Speaker 2: Matt just jumped right into it there. Uh that that

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Speaker 2: your scouting report, we we do now have we have

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Speaker 2: the East West Shrine Bowl in the books, we have

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Speaker 2: waiting for the combine in some pro day. So this

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Speaker 2: process is ongoing. But Fernando Mendoz a consensus QB one.

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody else though, behind him that has started

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Speaker 3: Well, the one guy who's stood out to me recently

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Speaker 3: But I am definitely more intrigued about nuss Meyer based

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Speaker 3: on him. Right now, Listen, when it comes to Ji Alery,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are immediately turned off because he's

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Speaker 3: you know he's he regressed and as a senior before

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Speaker 3: he got injured. Now he's coming off with the ankle.

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Speaker 3: You know, is he gonna be healthy? Is that going

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Speaker 3: to affect his mobility moving forward? All of that is valid.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, but the dude is six five two.

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Speaker 3: Ye can't teach that. The dude has an elite arm.

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Speaker 3: Cannot teach that he can make some ridiculous throws because

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Speaker 3: A lot of the stuff that's wrong with Drew Aler

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Speaker 3: coaches will look at that and be like, I'll take

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Speaker 3: of the stuff that is exciting about Dree Roler is

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Speaker 3: And then if you want to throw in, did he

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to all like the the easy

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Speaker 4: How would you judge him as an athlete?

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Speaker 3: I think he's more athletic than people think he is.

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Speaker 3: He's not a true dual threat Guy's Josh Allen I had.

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Speaker 3: I had Josh Allen as my NFL.

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Speaker 4: Comp Ben.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe, But the reason why I chose Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen's my NFL comp And I even specifically wrote it

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Speaker 3: mean that I think Drew ell Er is a future

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Speaker 3: it reminds me a bit of what Josh Allen does,

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Speaker 3: especially like even earlier on Listen, Penn state we're having

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Speaker 3: there aren't many quarterbacks who are asked to do that

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Speaker 3: like listen, there was a lot of talk when you know,

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Speaker 3: coming off of that that his junior year, that Ali

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Speaker 4: He definitely should have came out, yes, yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I want to see number one, if he can work

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Speaker 3: But even if he can't, does he go and does

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Speaker 3: he still meet with the teams? And if he can't

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Speaker 3: those straight up football conversations with him too. Just to see, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, if processing is a CONCERNI of mine, let

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Speaker 4: He seems like you'd be a great thirty visit for

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Speaker 4: medical reasons as well as whiteboard reasons.

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Speaker 3: Correct. That would be a really really good, uh problem.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where he's from. Well, it's a it's

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Speaker 3: I don't know that's true. Yeah, but I mean I

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Speaker 3: don't think Joey Porter Junior counted toward the toward the thirty.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where all

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Speaker 4: Allur's from. I just know he went to Penn State.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where his hometown is.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was based off I thought it was

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Speaker 4: A thousands. I know that because I know the pit

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Speaker 2: No, matter where, any like Zach Fraser didn't count because

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Speaker 3: Pierre could be an interesting one, but he also did

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of money out there and not a

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Speaker 3: Uh huh that. Yeah, the cap is growing escentually, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: If you can be like, Okay, it was kind of

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Speaker 3: It's a new scheme. You know, we'll teach you from

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Speaker 2: Well said absolutely, Chris Aleck with us here on the drive, Chris,

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Speaker 2: before we let you go, we do have to know Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Who you got. I'm probably still leaning Seahawks here. I

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for what Jackson, Smith

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Speaker 3: I think they're I think the two best teams in

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm going Steahawks here. I think the Patriot

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Speaker 2: Chris, great stuff, buddy, Thank you for for taking the

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Speaker 2: time for us as allays and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: here soon.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. Thanks for having me, guys, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: There he goes Chris Alec DK Pittsburgh Sports. Great stuff

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Speaker 2: from him as always. He's one of our favorite guys

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Speaker 4: Think he'll be pretty involved with draft coverage and the

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Speaker 2: He likes doing all the dork the same dork stuff

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Speaker 2: I I literally just wrote all that. I wrote pond

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Speaker 3: Over the years.

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Speaker 4: Anybody shock you with skills.

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Speaker 2: So I've been trying to get Josh gets off the

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Speaker 4: I assume he is a hockey backer.

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Speaker 2: He played, he played club at Ithaca. I believe I've

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Speaker 2: been told. I've been told he can wheel. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: I've been told he can wheel. But I tell you what,

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Speaker 4: He knew what he was doing. Maybe he's like your

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Speaker 2: Turky's another one that I've talked about because he doesn't

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Speaker 2: It'd be like the first weekend in October, like West

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