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Speaker 1: My next guest will be starting as a judge on

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Speaker 1: Fox Is prime time television dance competition show So You

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Speaker 1: Think You Can Dance Season sixteen, where she'll be joined

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Speaker 1: by judges Nigel and Mary. She's one of the most

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Speaker 1: important pop culture influences and entertainment today. As a director

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Speaker 1: and choreographer, she counted numerous international superstars as one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite Katy Perry, another one of my favorite, Lady Gaga.

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Speaker 1: Did he a con Nick Minaje among her clients? Please

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Speaker 1: welcome to money making conversation, laur Anne Gibson. Yes, you

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Speaker 1: know what, you got a lot of credits. It's you

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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta ramp up for somebody's success as successful

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Speaker 1: as you are. Wow, that's awesome, right, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all relative. It is all relative. That's how I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, really, glory to God and thank God I

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Speaker 1: have the capability, right, Well, you got it. You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it is that, you know, I've been

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Speaker 1: in entertainment for a while, uh, you know, started doing

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Speaker 1: stand up in officially Record eighty six and became a

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Speaker 1: television sitcom writer and a producer and managing talent. And

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Speaker 1: along the way, I've seen, you know, the whole dance explosion.

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Speaker 1: I remember Steve Harvey uh uh, participated in a dance

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Speaker 1: and so just to see it. The evolution Where do Where?

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Speaker 1: Where does dance play? How to dance? Became a part

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Speaker 1: of your life. Ms. Gibson. I mean, you're right, evolution

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Speaker 1: and explosion are two very relative words to dance right

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Speaker 1: now in the entertainment industry. But you know, as far

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Speaker 1: back as I can remember, I've been dancing. I believe

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Speaker 1: that I was dancing in the heavenly realms when I

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Speaker 1: asked my mother to put me in dance school. I

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Speaker 1: was very young. I was at six or seven. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's no time in my life that I can remember

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Speaker 1: not dancing, not feeling the energy of entertainment. You know.

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Speaker 1: Obviously for me, I attested, as you know, the gift

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Speaker 1: and that God has given me and bust me with.

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Speaker 1: So it's always been a part of my life. I

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Speaker 1: was born in Toronto. At seventeen going on eighteen, I

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Speaker 1: went to study at Alvin Ellie American Dad's Theater, and

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Speaker 1: from there my career started. I, um have had one

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Speaker 1: of the best training possible from that school, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I stand on the shoulders of great and and then

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Speaker 1: I went to a heavy d audition where I met

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Speaker 1: And then I started uh choregraphing for Mary J. Blage

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Speaker 1: and that's what really started my choreography career. Could you

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Speaker 1: say you start You've been dancing all your life. There

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Speaker 1: was a passion that was a low. How did that

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Speaker 1: translate to wanting to be able to you know each

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Speaker 1: because that's a that's a different skill set because not

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Speaker 1: only you're teaching one person, you tend to have to

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Speaker 1: teach a group of people to stay on beat, to

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Speaker 1: to to to match the consistency. Also, if you if

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Speaker 1: you're tour with a star talent, they have to play

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Speaker 1: a role in the dance movement. How do how does

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Speaker 1: that translate to your abilities? I think that that uh

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Speaker 1: as a dancer is one thing, but I think you're

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Speaker 1: right the evolution of a dancers definitely the choreographer and UM,

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Speaker 1: what I do as a creative director is making sure

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Speaker 1: all of those components come together. You know, when you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with the artists. That's about artists development. They work differently.

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Speaker 1: You know, not every dancer has the gift to corey

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Speaker 1: graphs and not chore Not all choreographers have the gift

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Speaker 1: to creative direct or understand the direction aspect of it.

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Speaker 1: So you know, for me, I'm very blessed I have

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Speaker 1: all of those kids and they work in tandem to

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Speaker 1: create such things as you know, the Bad Boy Reunion Tour,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of different components that come together. Um

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Speaker 1: when designing something from an artist hearing their music, understanding

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Speaker 1: of a vision because really, when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: like everybody has a skill set and when one comes

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Speaker 1: are you work with the client and they said, and

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Speaker 1: you when you put together a tour? And also do

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Speaker 1: you have are you involved in the casting of the dancers. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm always involved in the casting and not everyone has

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Speaker 1: And it's different with every artist you know, UM, most

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Speaker 1: way and the journey, No, it wasn't always like that.

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Speaker 1: I had to earn that, I understand that I had

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Speaker 1: which means that you have to be very creative. I'm

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Speaker 1: on the phone with she's on the phone with this

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Speaker 1: interview with Laurie and Gibson. She's talented, one of the

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Speaker 1: brilliant director core choreographers in the game today. She's a

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Speaker 1: new judge on the sixteenth season of the Fox Dance

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Speaker 1: competition series. So you think you can dance now? Of course,

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Speaker 1: that title, you know, applies to a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: a one time in college I was a breakdancer, so

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Speaker 1: when I was looking at it, when of course I

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Speaker 1: don't qualify for that Asia group anymore. Eighteen the thirty

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Speaker 1: showcasing talents from dance styles from contemporary, tap, hip hop, ballroom, animation, breaking,

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Speaker 1: and more. All those genres which genre as cites you

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Speaker 1: I mean they're all exciting to me because you know,

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Speaker 1: so um, including ballroom, tap, jazz. So for me, it's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a combination of things. I love the

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Speaker 1: so so so is the emotion because I'm I'm I've

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Speaker 1: to say that dancing is now well maybe it always

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Speaker 1: there's been there around for sixteen season. They have to

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Speaker 1: keep keep challenging the consumer to be able to come back.

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Speaker 1: So what what what what surprises you the most about

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Speaker 1: It's just now we have the opportunity and the platform

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Speaker 1: to just really see how powerful the dances. We've always

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, it's great that we can

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Speaker 1: So ultimately, so you think it's a dance is such

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Speaker 1: a great, incredible opportunity to get directly in front of

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Speaker 1: have the ability to showcase your gift very early on

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Speaker 1: in your career. Wow, she's on the phone, She's a star.

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Speaker 1: She's on my show Money Making Conversation. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with more with Laurie and Gibson. I want to find

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Speaker 1: out how does she get involved as being a judge

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Speaker 1: on the show. How did she get that call? How

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Speaker 1: On the main conversation, she's a renowned choreographer, director, television

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Speaker 1: personality artists. Her name is Laura Gibson, and she's the

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Speaker 1: new judge on the current sixteenth season of the hit

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Speaker 1: Fox dance competition show A series So You Think You

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Speaker 1: Can Dance? The new series new season premieres owed Uh

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Speaker 1: this is always a premier is in from nampm. Nine

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Speaker 1: to ten pm Eastern Standard Time on Fox Now. Since

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Speaker 1: been airing, tell me how people have reacted to your

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Speaker 1: judging style. Well, I I've been on a show called

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Speaker 1: Making the Band, I've had some television appearance. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You have you come with like it says,

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Speaker 1: But it is a place of education and coaching inspiration,

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Speaker 1: So I understand the art of dreaming and and perseverance

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Speaker 1: you know, So to be able to plant a seed

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Speaker 1: the chair and my perspective. Well, you do judge. Everybody

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Speaker 1: You're all winners. It's just how you look at the

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Speaker 1: I always look at it this goal. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: there can only be one winner in this particular competition,

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Speaker 1: right right, And that's not a bad thing because that's

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Speaker 1: why the show is successful. You you root for people,

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Speaker 1: you you you you champion different people when you you

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Speaker 1: just saying from your standpoint. You know, you, how you react,

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Speaker 1: how you are as you say mentor some of these

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Speaker 1: you on this particular show, have you developed a style

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Speaker 1: that that that that you feel that or you just

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Speaker 1: I think this is a particular a different show because

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Speaker 1: it's uh to my community. You know, it's a dance show.

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Speaker 1: I've never done a dance show like this. So yes,

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Speaker 1: completely different styles now now, now this is where I

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Speaker 1: want to be educated. I hope you not dissulted by

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Speaker 1: my asking because I don't know. So when I so,

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Speaker 1: I got when they're talking about the different dance styles.

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Speaker 1: I know what ballroom dancing is. That's I know that

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Speaker 1: Fox Dance competitions here, so you're thinking you can dance.

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Speaker 1: you're the real deal. And Laurie and Gibson, you are

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