1 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now today. 2 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk rests in glory in heaven for all eternity. 3 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: He has gone from speaking on campuses in Wisconsin to 4 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: kneeling at the throne of God, where he is right now. 5 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: Verly, verly, I say unto you, this is Christ speaking. 6 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: Except a corn of wheat fall onto the ground and die, 7 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: it abideth alone. But if it die, it bringeth forth 8 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: much fruit. And I want to thank Charlie for his 9 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: sacrifice because much fruit is going to be realized now. 10 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: I want you to know that Charlie right now is 11 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: in heaven. Not because he was a great husband and father, 12 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: Not because he saved millions of kids out of darkness 13 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: on college campuses, not because he changed minds and chased 14 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: votes to save the country, not because he sacrificed himself 15 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 4: for his savior. Charlie Kirk is in heaven because his 16 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 4: Savior sacrificed himself for Charlie Kirk. 17 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: But the main thing about Charlie and his message, he 18 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: was bringing the Gospel to the country. He was doing 19 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: the thing that the people in charge hate most, which 20 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 5: is calling for them to repent. 21 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 6: I believe Charlie is still urging us on, urging us 22 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 6: not to sit back, not to be quiet, but to 23 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 6: carry on his mission forward loudly, proudly, and with the 24 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: same conviction he showed. 25 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 7: Sacrifice is a gift. 26 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 8: Sacrifice is that last full measure of devotion for God. 27 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 7: For country, and for his people. 28 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: He will devote the rest. 29 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 7: Of our lives. 30 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 9: To finishing the causes for which Charlie gave his last 31 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 9: measure of devotion. You cannot defeat us, you cannot slow us, 32 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 9: you cannot stop us, you cannot deter us. 33 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 7: We will carry Charlie and Erica in our heart. 34 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: But we go forward, strengthened by his faith that boasted 35 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: by his courage, and inspired by his example to defend 36 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: the country he lived for. 37 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 10: See Charlie Kirk was a true believer for the cause 38 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 10: of freedom, for the power of young people, belief in 39 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 10: our republic and our founding principles in America first and 40 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 10: make America great again. 41 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 11: But more importantly, true believer. Only Christ is key our Lord, 42 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 11: and say. 43 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: The lesson of Charlie's life is that you should never 44 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: underestimate what one person can do with a good heart, 45 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: a righteous cause, a cheerful spirit and the will. 46 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 11: To fight, fight, fight. 47 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 12: Charlie lived what our founders envisioned. Freedom, the right to 48 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 12: speak even when we disagree. 49 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 13: Freedom. I may not agree with. 50 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 12: What you say, but I will fight to defend to 51 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 12: the death with my very life, your right to speak. 52 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 11: Now, our whole administration is here, but not just because 53 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 11: we love Charlie as a friend, even though we did, 54 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 11: but because we know we wouldn't be. 55 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 7: Here without him. 56 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: In the words of sore and Kergarten, the tyrant dies 57 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and his rule is over. 58 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 7: The martyr dies in his rule has just begun on 59 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 7: the cross. 60 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 14: Our Savior said, Father, forgive them. 61 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: For they not know what they do. 62 00:04:18,000 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 13: Come man, Come man, I forgive him. 63 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 15: Every day there is a battle for your mind, raging 64 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 15: information coming from every angle, but the will to deceive. 65 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 7: Fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice 66 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 7: a generation that still has the will to believe in 67 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 7: the greatest country. 68 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: In the history of the world. This is the Charlie 69 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, Here we go. 70 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 7: A lot, all right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. 71 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 7: I am the executive producer of this fine show, Andrew Polvett, 72 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 7: and today is the day, we have waited long enough 73 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 7: to confront some of the lies, the out of context clips, 74 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 7: the cherry picking of quotes that people are mostly the left, 75 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 7: are using to smear the legacy and the memory of 76 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 7: our brother and our friend, Charlie Kirk. And it is 77 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 7: incredibly apropos that joining me today, Wide Shot Please is 78 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 7: our Thought Crime crew because most of the clips that 79 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 7: ultimately surfaced came on the show called Thought Crime, which 80 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: we would do every Thursday night, and that would be 81 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 7: with Jack. It would be four of the five. It 82 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 7: would be Jack Pasobc, Tyler Boyer, Blake Nef, Charlie Kirk, 83 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 7: and me. I was sort of a fill in. I 84 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 7: was happy to be that Tyler and I would usually rotate. 85 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 7: And the whole premise of the show was to talk 86 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 7: about the verboten the verboten, and as soon as we 87 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 7: started doing the show, we realized that, you know, you're 88 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 7: not allowed to have fun anymore in America in twenty 89 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 7: twenty four, at the time most of these clips came 90 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 7: out because Charlie had become so big. Yeah, well, we 91 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 7: had a lot of fun, actually, but Charlie had become 92 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 7: so big that he was looked at as an appendage 93 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 7: of the Trump campaign. And so if Charlie ever said 94 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 7: anything that you know, wasn't actually on like the policy platform, 95 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 7: for example, of the Trump campaign, they would the Trump 96 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 7: campaign would get calls, and then we'd get calls, and 97 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 7: then everybody's getting calls. And so it was one of 98 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 7: those interesting dynamics that actually, in a weird backhanded way, 99 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 7: shows just how huge he had become, especially in the 100 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 7: campaign season of twenty twenty four. 101 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 8: So yeah, and you know, I think something that we 102 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 8: can really just all say, and I think we would 103 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 8: all agree on and Charlie would agree to, just just 104 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 8: at the outset, is this is all Andrew's fault. 105 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, I think if I do seem to 106 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 7: be a repeat offender in the cliffs. But listen, I 107 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 7: didn't want to give any any air to this stuff, 108 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 7: especially in the immediate aftermath. But you know, I think, 109 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 7: you know, we are at two weeks in one day 110 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 7: after it happened. What a whirl and it's been. I 111 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 7: don't I don't think it was worth giving any oxygen 112 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 7: to the haters, mostly on the left, because they were 113 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 7: upset that Charlie was getting essentially canonized before their eyes 114 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 7: and he was their ideological opponent. There's no there's no 115 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 7: doubt about that, and so you know, we but I 116 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 7: feel like. 117 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Now's the time. 118 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 8: But you even had instances where like Barack Obama like 119 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 8: the leader of the Democrat Party, and I don't if 120 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 8: you had to pick one man who's the public leader 121 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 8: of the party, it's Barack Obama. He couldn't even say 122 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 8: Charlie's name without sort of going through this litany of 123 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 8: but I disagree on this, and I disagree on this, 124 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 8: and he like they all and all of the topics 125 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 8: that he mentioned. I think we played the clip the 126 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 8: other day. We really pulled that up. Were from Thought Crime, 127 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 8: and it's like kind of existential in a sense that 128 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 8: stuff that from our Thursday night podcast is now coming 129 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 8: off the lips of Barack Obama. But at the same 130 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 8: time it's he's doing so to impune and smear and 131 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 8: demon He's even in death our friend Charlie Kirk. 132 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, I can't stand exers essential 133 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: because it was like at the devil himself, like having 134 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: to say the word Charlie Kirk. You can see him 135 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: like melting a little bit, like the Wicked Witch is 136 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: like every time that he had to say the word 137 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, you could almost see, well, you wait to 138 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Hillary couldn't say the word. 139 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 8: Hillary when she won an MSNBC yesterday. 140 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 7: She couldn't say the word Christian. 141 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 8: She said a she was like white males of a 142 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 8: certain religion. 143 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 7: She could start like a far right podcast or something like. 144 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 8: She couldn't know she couldn't say the word of christ 145 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 8: just saying so. 146 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 7: I just think it's apropos that you guys are here. 147 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 7: I'm excited to do this. A lot of you have online. 148 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 7: I've seen the comments, have been wanting us to do this, 149 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 7: and I just didn't feel like it was the time. 150 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 7: But now it's the time, and we're not. I don't 151 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 7: think we need to belabor these points, but you know, 152 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 7: you know, for for years on end or something, but 153 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 7: I think it's important to give a vociferous and forced, 154 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 7: full rebuttal so here, I want to start with my 155 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 7: favorite one, and that is about DEI Pilots. Do you 156 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 7: think it's safe to say, Tyler that the DEI pilot's 157 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 7: clip was the most viral thing that Charlie had ever 158 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 7: been associated with, and it wasn't like you know, it 159 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 7: was wildly misunderstood. But do you think at that point 160 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 7: it was probably the biggest clip of Charlie that had spread. 161 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And here's I wanted to piggyback on 162 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: what we were saying before a lot of Andrew got 163 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: the brunt of a lot of this stuff because he 164 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: was saying things that again, the whole the whole premise 165 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: and set up of fot crime and a lot of 166 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: the conversations that we had was Charlie was quarterbacking, and 167 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: that we were the ones, you know, kind of feeding 168 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: into it. I apologize for nothing well, and Charlie would 169 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of queue it up and then Andrew would lean 170 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,359 Speaker 1: in on it. But make no mistake, these were conversations 171 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: that were being had in the background, of course, and 172 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: that's important. 173 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 7: By the way. What's what's what's amazing is I was 174 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 7: only a part of about fifty percent of the thuck. 175 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 7: I imagine how many how many more defending of Charlie 176 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 7: we have whoa whoa. 177 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 8: Andrew was in the background of every ship, every conversation, 178 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 8: even if he wasn't on there. 179 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 14: You're not. 180 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 7: Sorry, He's like he stepped back. 181 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: From the bomb fire. 182 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 16: Every all right, I think I blame Blake. 183 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, just let's get into it, because we've been telling you, 184 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 7: Blake get kind of drive. Today, we blamed Blake for enough. Yeah, 185 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 7: he's not getting blamed for. 186 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 16: This, so I want to get blame for this one anyway. 187 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 16: So the clip that's getting passed around a lot, this 188 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 16: is one of the ones that popped up the most, 189 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 16: is people get really mad about what Charlie says about 190 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 16: black pilots. So let's just start with the original clip. 191 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 16: Let's do clips sixty eight. 192 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 7: And that's why I think this United story in the 193 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 7: DEI story hits so hard because we've all been in 194 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 7: the back of a plane when the turbulence hits, or 195 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 7: when you're flying through a storm and you're like, I'm 196 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 7: so glad I saw the guy with the right stuff 197 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 7: and the square jaw get into the cockpit before we 198 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 7: took off, And I feel better now. 199 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 15: Think I mean, like you want to go thought crime, Like, 200 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 15: I'm sorry, if I see a black pilot, I'm going 201 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 15: to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified. 202 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's that you wouldn't have done that. 203 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 15: You wouldn't have done that's not an immediate no, you 204 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 15: would not who I am. 205 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: That's not what I believe. 206 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 7: It is the reality the left host I hated. 207 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 17: No, that last part is really important, Like, obviously they're 208 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 17: doing this thing where they just act like we just 209 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 17: came in and we're just like, oh, we care about 210 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 17: the skin color of who flies planes. 211 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 16: No, Charlie doesn't want to care about that. The left 212 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 16: wants to care about that. So here's an important piece 213 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 16: of context that this is basically. 214 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 7: What we were reacting to. 215 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 16: This is a clip of United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby 216 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 16: making a pretty intense commitment to hitting diversity quotas out 217 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 16: his airline. Let's play clip two hundred. 218 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 18: How is diversity and diversity targets working into the AVIAT Academy. 219 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 18: We have committed that fifty of the class of the 220 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 18: classes will be women or people of color. Today, only 221 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 18: nineteen percent of our pilots at United Airlines or women 222 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 18: or people of color. And by the way, from all 223 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 18: the data I've seen, that's the highest of any airline 224 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,119 Speaker 18: in the country. 225 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 7: All right, So can I just jump in here really quick? 226 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 7: This is incredibly important. So that is the clip we 227 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 7: were Charlie and I and everybody was responding to that. 228 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 7: Right now, they had nineteen percent women and people of 229 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 7: color in the in their pilot corps. They wanted to 230 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 7: get it up to fifty percent for every new pilot corps. 231 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 7: Why is that a really dumb thing to do? First 232 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 7: of all, meritocracy. Charlie believed in meritocracy. Let the best 233 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 7: man or woman win. Second of all, Jack, riddle me this, 234 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 7: do you know what percentage of new pilots that are 235 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 7: training to be pilots, whether that's just getting their pilot's 236 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 7: license or trying to go into an academy of some 237 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 7: sort to become a professional pilot. Do you know how 238 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 7: what percentage are women or people of color? 239 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 8: Is that thirteen percent? It's about nine percent? Thirteen percent, 240 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 8: that's a difference, Yeah, it's nine percent, it's nine percent. 241 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 7: So that means that you're essentially trying to fill fifty 242 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 7: percent of the spots from nine percent of the population 243 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 7: of the of the you're saying, not qualified, just training, 244 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 7: just training. So these are people, if people who want 245 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 7: to be a new pilot basically getting their hours going 246 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 7: through ninety percent or white males. It just happens to 247 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 7: be one of those professions where white males go to 248 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 7: a lot. So Charlie was making the point that if 249 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 7: you are going to pull fifty percent of your pilots 250 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 7: from nine or ten percent of the population of new pilots, 251 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 7: then you're going to have to do something that is 252 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 7: not in favor of meritocracy. You're gonna have to lower 253 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 7: your standards to beget the month. So he said that 254 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 7: if you impose this quota, then I'm going to start 255 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 7: asking questions. Boy, I hope you're qualified. And he said, 256 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 7: I never did that before, and I don't want to 257 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 7: do it in the future. More when we get back 258 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 7: right here on the Charlie Kirk Show, all right, so 259 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 7: let's we'll just. 260 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 16: Continue along because he gives a he does, so we'll 261 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 16: continue along here. So Charlie himself offered some clarification on 262 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 16: the pilot thing. I can't remember off the top of 263 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 16: my head. This is the same day or later, but 264 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 16: let's play clip one sixty nine. 265 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 7: And that's why I think this United story in the 266 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 7: DEI story hits so hard because we've all been in 267 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 7: the back of a plane when the turbulence hits, or 268 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 7: when you're flying through a storm and you're like, I'm 269 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 7: so glad I saw the guy with the right stuff 270 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 7: and the square jaw get into the cockpit before we 271 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 7: took off, and I feel better now. 272 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 15: Think I mean, like you want to go thought crime? 273 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 15: Like I'm sorry. If I see a black pilot, I'm 274 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 15: gonna be like, boy, I hope he's qualified. 275 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Well, that's that you wouldn't have done that. 276 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 15: You wouldn't have done That's not an immediate no, you 277 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 15: wouldn't not who I am. 278 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: That's not what I believe. 279 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 7: It is the reality the leftosse eye eat it. 280 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 15: So you guys piggybacked off of me because you knew 281 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 15: what I was saying, Because what I was saying is 282 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 15: that DEI creates and fosters sinful, unwholesome thought patterns because 283 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 15: when they say we're going to hire people based on 284 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 15: race and not competency, and so you start to just say, 285 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 15: you know what's going on here, Blake, you're part of this. 286 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 15: This has gone so viral, twenty two million people have 287 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 15: seen it on It's. 288 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 16: What I said at the end, this is the reality 289 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 16: the left has created that big crave. 290 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 7: Okay, I didn't realize that would repeat the whole, the whole, 291 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 7: the lake. 292 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: That's late. 293 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 7: Why did you do this? Blake? Yeah, he was definitely. 294 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 8: I was in the in the by the way, It's 295 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 8: like so much of what thought crime and even what 296 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 8: we do in the regular shows is guys, we live 297 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 8: in clown world, okay, and we're describing the clowns. 298 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we're doing every day. 299 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 16: It is just straight like and it really the most 300 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 16: obvious way to put it is just like, look, you 301 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 16: guys can hire for diversity or you can hire for merit. 302 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 16: Those are mutually exclusive options and period. 303 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 7: Either way, Charlie was not saying that he looked at 304 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 7: a black pilot pilot currently in thought those things he said. 305 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 7: He didn't. He said, but if in the future you 306 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 7: do X and Y and Z to hire based on 307 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 7: some other feature, immutable characteristic that is not linked to 308 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 7: your ability to do the job, then I'm going to 309 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 7: start asking what. 310 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 8: As they're doing is they're taking Charlie's clip and they're 311 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 8: removing all the context of what's going on and the 312 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 8: situation that he's commenting on. And that's what you'll see 313 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 8: throughout every single one of these. 314 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 16: Actually, we have another clip from Charlie more straightforwardly defensive. 315 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 7: Let's play a clip two or four. 316 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: All right, let me tell you exactly what I said. 317 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 7: Okay. 318 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 15: So this was in response, first and foremost to United 319 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 15: Airlines saying that half of all their new pilots that 320 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 15: they're going to hire are going to be women or 321 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 15: people of color. Currently they're fifteen percent, so they want 322 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 15: to go from fifteen percent to fifty percent. A conversation 323 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 15: that ensued about however, every time affirmative action is employed, 324 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 15: standards have to be lowered. There's not a single instance 325 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 15: where that does not occur. So then I said, I said, boy, 326 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 15: if I see a black pilot, I'm now going to 327 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 15: wonder is that individual qualified or they selected because of 328 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 15: their race? 329 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Comma. 330 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 7: But that's not who I am. 331 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 15: But this makes me think this way, and I stand 332 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 15: completely by that statement. 333 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 7: Okay. 334 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 15: Secondly, let me just finish it. Yes, sorry, DEI an 335 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 15: affirmative action. What it does is it lowers the merit. 336 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 15: It lowers the threshold of standards and increases things that 337 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 15: do not matter, such as skin color and ethnic background. 338 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 7: That last part is so key. 339 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 16: He's saying, Look, if you guys, like again, you can 340 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 16: hire merit, or you can hire for a quota. For DEI, 341 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 16: you can consider things like skin color and ethnic and 342 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 16: national background important. And if you consider those things important, 343 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 16: if you put them on the scales definitionally, it is 344 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 16: impossible that you will not lower the overall standards of 345 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 16: the people that you are making into pilots. And it 346 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 16: doesn't just have to be pilots. I think that's the 347 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 16: example that stands out, where a really incompetent person can 348 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 16: just crash a plane and kill everyone on it. But 349 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 16: there's other things surgeons medicine, like if you want to 350 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 16: check med school admissions m CAT, that's a test you 351 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 16: have to take, and we've historically had a lot of 352 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 16: affirmative action in med school admissions. So Asians are scoring 353 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 16: higher than other people, are scoring higher than the whites, 354 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 16: and then you know, black med school applicants are getting 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 16: lower m CAT scores and they're getting into medical school 356 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 16: with lower m CAT scores. And this isn't because the 357 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 16: m CAT is like a racist test. It's a measure 358 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 16: of ability, and people are coming out different on that 359 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 16: measure of ability, and that's having ramifications at the end 360 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 16: of things. 361 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, like for example, like we we you know, so 362 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 8: Blake is a DEI higher, you know, and quota people 363 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 8: don't because he's bald, and he's also one percent Inuit. 364 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 8: We don't talk about it very much, but sometimes he 365 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 8: looks at dog sleds a little bit too long, and. 366 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 7: You know, and like Blake, what's going on. 367 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: He's like, they're calling me. 368 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: The so yeah, but Blake, Blake is not into it 369 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 7: as far as are you in anyway. So I would 370 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 7: just say this, this feels like a very open and 371 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 7: shutcase because they just wanted black people to think Charlie 372 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 7: didn't think they could fly planes. That's not what he said. 373 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: He said the core of everything was that this is 374 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: corporate sabotage. And it doesn't matter who they were talking about. 375 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: They could they could have said that Chiquita banana eaters 376 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: are the only people that will hire. Yes, it wouldn't 377 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: have mattered what the topics either sabotage. 378 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 7: It's either merit or it's a quota. You cannot have both. 379 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 7: And we stand by Charlie and that in that statement. 380 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 7: I think we I think we're ready for the next one. 381 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: We'll be right back. We're gonna welcome radio. We'll do 382 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 7: this all right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. 383 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 7: We are joined by the Thought Crime crew and we 384 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 7: are debunking the lies and the smears of Charlie taking 385 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 7: him out of context posthumously, which is pretty sick actually, 386 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 7: And we didn't want to get to this too soon 387 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 7: because there's so much good that Charlie said and did 388 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 7: that it was it just so outshadowed this stuff. But 389 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 7: every dog has his day, and I am, like, you know, 390 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 7: a dog with a bone on this stuff, because I 391 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 7: was there for it, and I saw it, and I 392 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 7: knew the discussion that led up to it. 393 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 8: God, before we even go any further, right, there'd be 394 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 8: so many times where we'd be commenting on things that 395 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 8: were going on in society, but we weren't actually giving 396 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 8: our prescriptions for society. And if you go through that, 397 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 8: Charlie obviously spends a lot of time talking about clown world, 398 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 8: and he's describing the clowns and the clownish behavior that's 399 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 8: going on corporate America, et cetera. 400 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 7: But when you actually find the. 401 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 8: Thread that Charlie always pushed for was a color blind society, 402 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 8: a color blind society that said, let the best person 403 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 8: be the one who gets the job, be the one 404 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 8: who gets the votes, be the one who gets to 405 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 8: be in leadership. 406 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 7: Whatever. 407 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 8: It is a color blind society with standards that are 408 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 8: applied equally. A cross the board. So if you want 409 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 8: to say that's equality, right, yeah, we want equality of standards. 410 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 7: Well yeah, And if you think about and Blake, you 411 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 7: could probably remember the quote better. But Charlie loved this quote. 412 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 7: I think it was one of the Weinstein brothers that 413 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 7: said it, but maybe they were quoting somebody else. Anyways, 414 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 7: it's if you want to know the god of the age, 415 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 7: just you ask yourself, what are you not allowed to critique? 416 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 16: And it's a The line is attributed to Voltaire and 417 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 16: it's not from Voltaire, but I think one of the 418 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 16: brothers did say reason. 419 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 7: But anyways, the point is Charlie was fearless on the 420 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 7: modern god, the idol of Dei and and pulling the 421 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 7: race card and all of this stuff. Charlie, if you 422 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 7: you can't maybe you can see it over Jack shoulder, 423 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 7: but we have a he put up. This is his wall, 424 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 7: like he picked these pictures you get. I think his 425 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 7: head's getting caught up. That's Clarence Thomas over Jack shoulder. 426 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 7: Charlie loves Clarence Thomas, doctor Ben Carson. These are people, 427 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 7: Charlie was not racist, did not have a racist bone 428 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 7: in his body. If you're good at what you do, 429 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 7: he loved it. If you were a good family man, 430 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 7: if you were a good father, he loved you and 431 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 7: he supported you. And I know he's got so many 432 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 7: friends in the black community that defend him vociferously online, 433 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 7: and I love that. But just as somebody who can 434 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 7: tell you from very up close and personal, there was 435 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 7: not a racist bone in his body. He was often 436 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 7: accused of it because so much of our modern society 437 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 7: is oriented around what came out of the Civil Rights era. 438 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 7: So this is the new founding, this Christopher Caldwell prescription 439 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 7: of a new founding of America after the nineteen sixties 440 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 7: in which we had. You know, basically, if you're a 441 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 7: modern American, you have more reverence for the Civil Rights 442 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 7: Act than you do for the Constitution. Charlie thought that 443 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: that was a problem. It wasn't that he didn't like 444 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 7: a lot of what the Civil Rights Act accomplished, or 445 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 7: at least set out to accomplish. It's that there was 446 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 7: overreach that happened, and there was a new founding of 447 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 7: America that was extra constitutional. 448 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 8: But I would even go so far as they that 449 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 8: I agree with Caldwell and I agree with the left 450 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 8: on this, and I think Charlie would too, in the 451 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 8: sense that it was sort of a new founding of 452 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 8: America because there were new standards that perhaps weren't intended, 453 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 8: but that superseded the constitutional founding of America. 454 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 7: Yes, and so Charlie was fearless in his critiques of 455 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 7: this because he saw it as a core rot of 456 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 7: modern American culture and that if we were going to 457 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 7: get back to a colorblind society, a meritocracy, a culture 458 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 7: that was oriented around excellence and achieving great things and 459 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 7: dreaming big dreams, that we couldn't. You know. It's like 460 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 7: that verse that I posted on X yesterday, like you 461 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 7: have to throw off all that's hindering you. You have 462 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 7: to throw off everything that's slowing you down if you're 463 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 7: going to run your race well. And Charlie was such 464 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 7: a pragmatist and such an efficiency, you know, oriented person 465 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 7: that he knew that this stuff was holding our country back. 466 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 7: And so he knew that he uniquely was suited as 467 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 7: this as the exact person not to talk about it, 468 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 7: to sort of crush the idols in the temple and 469 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 7: in the high places and go for this stuff. And yeah, 470 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 7: he took a lot of slings and arrows, but in 471 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 7: my opinion, looking back, this is some of the stuff 472 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 7: I respect him most. But you look too that. 473 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 8: I keep going back to that Hillary Clinton clip yesterday 474 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 8: on MSNBC. We're even in the wake of all of this. 475 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 8: She goes up on MSNBC and we have this clip 476 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 8: and she what is she saying. She's saying, we remember, 477 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 8: the target must be white Christian men. Remember, white Christian 478 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 8: men are the ones who cannot be allowed to be 479 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 8: in leadership positions, And like she says, almost, yeah, yeah, 480 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 8: it's disgusting, and like like like Charlie Kirk, you know, 481 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 8: just like Charlie Kirk, why didn't you just say it? 482 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 7: Hillary? Well, and he knew, he knew that he was 483 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 7: a at the vanguard of this stuff, and that he 484 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 7: was a representative for an entire generation of the Lost 485 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 7: Boys of the West that had been disenfranchised by their 486 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 7: own political leaders. They had been tossed aside by a 487 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 7: political establishment and a zeitgeist that vilified them, demonized them, 488 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 7: and wanted to toss them aside. When this is their kind, 489 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 7: this is where they were born, This is what they've inherited, 490 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 7: and we were breaking the social compact with an entire 491 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 7: generation of young men. And I like to think that 492 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 7: Charlie gave When you start seeing these polls about who's coming, 493 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 7: you know, who's voting for Trump, young men wanting to 494 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 7: get married, young men wanting to have families, and young 495 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 7: men wanting to get go back to church, it's because 496 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 7: Charlie went straight at the idols of the age and 497 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 7: he crushed them on behalf of us. All so, we'll 498 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 7: be right back. 499 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 19: Don't go anywhere, all right, we are back here for 500 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 19: the stream, Blake, Why don't you take us to the next. 501 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 16: All right, So let's it's not even so much a debunk. 502 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 16: A lot of this is like just explain. You need 503 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 16: to have explanations in like more context. So this is 504 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 16: the one that went most viral right after it happened. 505 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 16: Uh it's you would see like headlines where people would 506 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 16: post this, and it was Charlie saying, you know that 507 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 16: gun deaths were worth it to keep the second moment. 508 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 16: That's what they would say. It was like unfortunately worth it. 509 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 16: As the exact quote they would have. There's like a 510 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 16: million examples of that. I just shared one if they 511 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 16: want to. 512 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 7: Put it up. 513 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 16: But people would post those to like dunk on Charlie 514 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 16: and be like, but. 515 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: He would change his mind now. 516 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 16: And this one really discussed me quite a bit actually, 517 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 16: because it's it's not so much alive about what Charlie said, 518 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 16: it's attacking him for actually daring to discuss a public 519 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 16: issue the correct and honest way. So we have a 520 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 16: full quote from Charlie on this. I can't remember where 521 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 16: he said it, but it's clip one seventy five. 522 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 7: Let's just play it. 523 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 15: So we need to be very clear that you're not 524 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 15: going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. 525 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 15: You could significantly reduce them. They're having more fathers in 526 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 15: the home by having more arm guards in front of schools. 527 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 15: Have an honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, 528 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 15: but we should not have a utopian one. You will 529 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 15: never live in a society when you have an armed 530 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 15: citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That 531 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 15: is nonsense, it's drivel. But I think it's I think 532 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 15: it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a 533 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 15: cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year, so 534 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 15: that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our 535 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 15: other God given rights. 536 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: That is a prudent deal. It is rational. 537 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 16: So this is what makes me so angry about And 538 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 16: there's even stuff in even longer version before he says 539 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 16: that he talks about I'll read this quote directly. He says, 540 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 16: the Second Amendment is there so that you can defend 541 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 16: yourself against a tyrannical government. If that talk scares you, wow, 542 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 16: that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that. Well, then 543 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 16: you have not read any of the literature of our 544 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 16: founding fathers, and you haven't read any twentieth century history. 545 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 16: And then he continues, we must be real, we must 546 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 16: be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes 547 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 16: with a price. That is a part of liberty. He 548 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 16: gives the example driving comes with a price. Fifty thousand 549 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 16: people die on the road every year. That is a 550 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 16: price you could get rid of driving, have fifty thousand 551 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 16: fewer auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit 552 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 16: of driving, speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services is worth 553 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 16: that cost. And then he goes that part we saw 554 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 16: and it just discuss me so much that people are 555 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 16: dunking on Charlie over this when he's doing what any 556 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 16: reasonable leader, a figure showing leadership, should do, which is 557 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 16: evaluating the honest costs and benefits of a policy. There 558 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 16: are so many scammer politicians and public figures who will 559 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 16: say there's only benefits or only downsides. 560 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 7: To a policy. 561 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 16: They'll say, oh, it's all upside, and people are opposed 562 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 16: to this just because their haters are corrupt. Charlie would 563 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 16: actually come out and say, the Second Amendment has downsides. 564 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 16: We have more guns. There is more gun violence in 565 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 16: America than there is in the UK. There's more gun 566 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 16: violence here than there is in China. But we have 567 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 16: it for other reasons. We have it because we are 568 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 16: free citizens and that helps us main free citizens. And 569 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 16: then I just I got so angry when I was 570 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 16: and not to mention, not to mention, you know, there 571 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 16: was some One of the stats we were talking about 572 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 16: as Trump was cleaning up DC was that there had 573 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 16: been essentially about twelve hundred murders in DC and since 574 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 16: twenty eighteen, right, twelve hundred murders. 575 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 7: It was a very murderous place, very murdery, very murdery. 576 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 7: And guess how many of them were white? The victims. 577 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 7: How many white murders there were since twenty eighteen. The 578 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 7: victims are the suspects, the victims. 579 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Eleven, Yeah, eleven. 580 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 7: Most of that gun death is happening because of gang 581 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 7: crime and black on black violence. And Charlie was very 582 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 7: honest about that fact. Now, obviously, Charlie's own murder is 583 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 7: something completely and entirely different. This is a political assassination 584 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: where Charlie was murdered because of what he said and 585 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 7: what he believed, and how effective he was, and because 586 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 7: of his Christian faith. But what Charlie was getting at 587 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 7: was that we we there is a cost to every 588 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 7: freedom that we have. There is a cost to having 589 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 7: alcohol in the shelves, there's a cost to having licenses 590 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 7: in people's pockets to drive cars. Go ahead, well just 591 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 7: be just where we go to break. 592 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 8: I would I would even go so far as to 593 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 8: say that even even in the sense that Charlie could 594 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 8: comment on this, he still wouldn't be for gun bands. 595 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 8: He still wouldn't be. No, there's no, and we all know. 596 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: That, no question. No he yeah, I mean wouldn't even 597 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: be on the table. 598 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 7: Yeah no, And so I I totally agree this is 599 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 7: a really really after Trump got shot, and it's a 600 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 7: really sick one. 601 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: And if it would happen to any of us, he 602 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: would have said the same thing, and if and and 603 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: we would all agree on the same. 604 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 7: Yes, honestly, he might. 605 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 16: He might have even managed to laugh about it. He 606 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 16: would have been like probably yeah, and just be like, well, 607 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 16: they kind of got me on that one. 608 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 7: Well, I hope, gosh, I don't know, there's not would 609 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 7: I give what you mean? But he wouldn't have. He 610 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 7: wouldn't have changed his position. No, well not on the slides. 611 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 7: So we are going to welcome back Radio and go 612 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 7: on to the next one. But that I'm with you, 613 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 7: that one's really gross. We'll be right back. 614 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 15: Please check your TDS c R T D E I 615 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 15: and L G B t Q I A plus at 616 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 15: the door. 617 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: But the only letters we care about are U. 618 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 13: S A one. 619 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 20: Right. 620 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a good I just put that on. 621 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 7: Welcome Back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Andrew Colvett, 622 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 7: Executive producer of this show, with Blake Neff, Jack Bisova, 623 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 7: and Tyler Boyer. Uh So, yeah, Jack, you had a 624 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 7: good idea. I think we should go to sort of 625 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 7: some of the breaking news around the ice shooter in 626 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 7: Texas yesterday. 627 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 8: Well, so we do have breaking news just in the 628 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 8: sense that it's you know, it just happened, but also 629 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 8: it pertains to exactly what we're talking about right now 630 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 8: on the program regarding the Second Amendment. So this from 631 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 8: the post millennial breaking the Dallas ice shooter searched for, 632 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 8: conducted searches for ballistics, and the phrase Charlie Kirk shot 633 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 8: video and plan to quote give ICE agents real terror. 634 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 8: So this has come coming from Cash Hotel director of 635 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 8: the FBI that it seems like it's shaping up that 636 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 8: Joshua Joshua John I think it's how you pronounced it 637 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 8: was a copycat of the Charlie Kirk assassin and he 638 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 8: specifically conducted searches of Charlie Kirk's assassination before he conducted 639 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 8: this attack on an ICE facility in Dallas. 640 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, which shows the interconnectivity between all of this 641 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: leftist rhetoric that's happening. I mean that the in your 642 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: face is that all of the pro trans anti ice 643 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: pro blm. I mean, we're seeing nothing but trickle down 644 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: violence that's been there for years, and this isn't new 645 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: We've seen this since twenty twenty. 646 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 8: No, and it's time for it's high time for the 647 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 8: federal and state authorities to just start doing something about it. 648 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 7: We need action. Well, and I think this is actually 649 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 7: I cannot get this image out of my head. Go 650 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 7: play show image one forty one. It's about political violence. 651 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 7: And if you notice on the left that is yeah, 652 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 7: we talked about this yesterday, but it's it's worth reiterating 653 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 7: because both Charlie's assassin, this ice shooter, the same with 654 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 7: the Catholic school shooter in Minneapolis. These are young progressive 655 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 7: men in that eighteen to thirty nine cohort, and look 656 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 7: at that, A whopping thirty percent believe that it's justified 657 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 7: at times to resort to violence to achieve political goals. 658 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: Conservatives are. 659 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 7: Look at the the node on this graph that would 660 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 7: most correlate to Charlie's core audience eighteen to thirty nine 661 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 7: year olds, Conservatives are the lowest besides like sixty plus 662 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 7: year old moderates. So is the most peaceful cohort is 663 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 7: our audience. The most radical violent cohort are the people 664 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 7: on the left. 665 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: And what this actually shows is that the left is 666 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: pulling the people in the middle towards violence. Which I 667 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: think is the most mind blowing piece of this is 668 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: the moderates. Look at the moderates, modern plus picking up 669 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: to sixty plus are the least violent, and moderates at 670 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: eighteen to two thirty nine are being dragged towards violence 671 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: because of how radical the left is. 672 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 7: Thomas Matthew Crooks also twenty years old. Yes, yes, so 673 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 7: they're getting sucked down these these little discord chats and 674 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 7: these four Chan chats. Say I saw media san say, oh, 675 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 7: leftists don't get on or I think he retweeted somebody, but 676 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 7: he's like, leftist don't go on four Chan. I'm like, yes, 677 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 7: they do. You obviously do do not know? No, no, no, 678 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 7: they've been doing it for years. You obviously do not 679 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 7: understand the world that a twenty year old, especially white 680 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 7: male lives in. 681 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 8: Well, so four Chan has kind of evolved in from 682 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 8: was than twenty sixteen, where it was heavily you know, 683 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 8: right dominated, and like you know, just being there where 684 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 8: there have been these brigades and attacks and there's there's 685 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 8: leftists all over four chan now and so that's why 686 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 8: it's just not the same as it used to be 687 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 8: as horrible as it is. 688 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 7: Not that I've ever seen it. 689 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 8: Myself, but people tell me that that it's quite different now. 690 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 7: But but that being said, Wait, Danny makes a good 691 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 7: point here. I want to make a point. He says, 692 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 7: the real Dad is even worse. This poll was taken 693 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 7: after September tenth. Yes, so thirty said this after. It 694 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 7: was actually way higher before. And it's also and he 695 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 7: makes another good point. Danny's the man. Charlie loved. Gosh, 696 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 7: Charlie loved Danny, and he's such a great member of 697 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 7: our team, he said. Worth noting for this that a 698 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 7: lot of these famous shootings are in gun free zones. 699 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that, But that's it. 700 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 16: I find that sort of silly, Like I do, I 701 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 16: do want to add, can I. 702 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 7: Throw in this too? 703 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: What really gets my goat about this thing too, is 704 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: that Operation Arctic Frost, which was going after which was 705 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: investigating conservative organizations that have absolutely turning point in specific 706 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: that had no non violent tendency or had all non 707 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: violent tendencies. While the FBI could have been and should 708 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: have been investigating and spending all their time and energy 709 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: on this on the violence that that emits from from Antifa, 710 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: from all the left wing organizations, from the cells of 711 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: young men on. 712 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 8: The left, increasingly in like one of the Antifa, I 713 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 8: would say evolutions is that you see this trans ideology 714 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 8: now infused. 715 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 7: And we haven't spent that any things related near. 716 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Enough time like we would. We were planning all this 717 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: week on talking a lot about arctic frost with Charlie 718 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: our the last two weeks. We we haven't spent nearly 719 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: enough time talking about all this and that it's yet 720 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: to come out. 721 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 7: Well, what is arctic frost for for people? 722 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: And so this was what was what was unveiled right 723 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: in that same week that Charlie was murdered, was that 724 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: Churning Point us A was being investigated during the bidenistration 725 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: by the FBI, tracking everything and anything that Turning Point 726 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: was doing to basically make criminals out of a non 727 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: criminal organization. 728 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 7: And by the way, I was told, just for people 729 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 7: that are wondering, that that had been shut down immediately 730 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 7: upon Cash getting controlled the FBI. Yeah, so whatever that 731 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 7: division was has been. 732 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: But that's the insanity of all this is we don't 733 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: even know all the information that's pertinent to that. But 734 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: that's what the that's what our federal law enforcement agencies 735 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: were doing instead of going after the murderous, you know, 736 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 1: basically hitting gang violence and playing sight with mentally ill 737 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: young man on the left and leftist organizations that are 738 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: stoking this fire. 739 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 740 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 8: And I do want to just say that one of 741 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 8: the pieces that we see in this profile, it becomes 742 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 8: a very sort of like there's this weird talking point 743 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 8: going on out there. And I saw Lindsay Graham saying 744 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 8: that we should like censor the Internet now and get 745 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 8: rid of Blake. 746 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 7: Was it section three or two or two or. 747 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: Three two or three or two thirty? 748 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 7: None of us have slept in like two weeks, Yeah, exactly. 749 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 13: I know. 750 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 7: You text me one more time and say I look tired. 751 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 7: I understand my mom, just kid, you look tired. 752 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 8: I was like, our moms must be coordinating, because yeah, 753 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 8: I was like, yes, those are bags under my eyes. 754 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 7: Yes. But here's my point. 755 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 8: There's my point is the radicalization doesn't necessarily take place 756 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 8: on discord because we've lived through waves of left wing 757 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 8: terrorism before in this country the sixties and seventies. Uh, 758 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 8: certainly in the early early nineteen hundreds of late eighteen hundreds, 759 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 8: William McKinley, right, we had a president of the United 760 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 8: States who was shot in Buffalo, New York by a 761 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 8: left wing anarchist who walked up and shot him in 762 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 8: nineteen oh one. That's how Teddy Roosevelt became our youngest president. 763 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 8: And you know, he didn't have discord in video games. 764 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 8: And yet I keep hearing these like DC Republic and say, oh, 765 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 8: it's the video games and the. 766 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 7: Discords, that's what we have to go after it. 767 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 8: And it's like, no, no, no, it's in ediology. 768 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I believe this very firmly that if 769 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 7: I believe God was working through Charlie Kirk both in 770 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 7: life but even he was leaving little Easter eggs for 771 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 7: us right before his death, and Charlie was communicating these things. 772 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 7: And he sent a text to Stephen Miller and we've 773 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 7: talked about it on the show, but it's worth reiterating now. 774 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 7: And he said his last text to Stephen Miller was, 775 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 7: we have to go after the networks that are financing 776 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 7: and fomenting violence and radicalization. So there's a way to 777 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 7: do that via Rico. Blake would know more about that 778 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 7: than I would. But whatever that is, that's a piece 779 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 7: of this right. I don't think it's I don't think 780 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 7: it's getting I don't think it's suppressing free speech. Charlie 781 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 7: was a free speech app absolutist, and it's not by 782 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 7: calling things hate speech. What we do also is we 783 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,479 Speaker 7: have to bring young men back in to a place 784 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 7: of centeredness. This is why Charlie was so fixated on 785 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 7: like building new homes, affordable new homes. He wanted a 786 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 7: moonshot for new homes. We have to get young men 787 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 7: to buy in and have skin in the game. 788 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 8: Also, we stop demonizing young men as a society and 789 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 8: blaming them for every problem that's in society, particularly young 790 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 8: white men, where you're you're to blame for everything. It's 791 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 8: your fault. You're the ones who are responsible for all 792 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 8: of this. And Hillary Clinton again, Hillary Clinton goes up 793 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 8: on TV and that's exactly what she said. 794 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: Isn't it so interesting that the demonization of young white 795 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: men has resulted in the ignoring of the most mentally 796 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: unhealthy young white men that are all on the left. 797 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean truly, the some of the outcomes there, well, yeah, 798 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 1: it's like so on the right. 799 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 8: Bit drives us, It drives us to church dragon the left, 800 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 8: it drives them to commit assassinations because they don't have got. 801 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: Well and they have no one actually looking after them. 802 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: Because when you when you try to subjugate an entire 803 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: population of people, it doesn't matter who it is, in 804 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: whatever culture. When you do that, what ends up happening 805 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: is you have a pocket on your own side that 806 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: just gets completely and blatantly ignored. And that's what they've done. 807 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: They've essentially created this horribly radical, radicalized system now of 808 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: men who are completely ignored on the right, who have 809 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: now been pushed toward God. And and we're now picking 810 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: up the pieces of this Charlie and then and then 811 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: the ones on the left that they're supposed to be 812 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: responsible for that, they're doing absolutely zero for it. 813 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 8: And the way, by the way, if you are a 814 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 8: white male who's on the left, because you don't have 815 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 8: those characteristics that would allow you to be like part 816 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 8: of their hierarchy, then it might drive you to commit 817 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 8: more extreme acts to show your solidarity and loyalty to 818 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 8: the revolution, because leftist politics. 819 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 7: Is dependent not on skill, it's dependent on loyalty I 820 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 7: have I'm gonna I love this topic, but it's not 821 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 7: debunking the lies thought record. Yeah, but here's the thing. 822 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 7: So I this is funny. Let's go ahead and show 823 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 7: image one seventy three. This is an easy one. We 824 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 7: can get through in the time we have remaining. This 825 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 7: is a pick a tweet commenting on c K going 826 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 7: after saying that time Charlie Kirk called an Asian woman 827 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 7: in the audience multiple times, pardon my friend, I'm just quoting. 828 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 7: He made millions off of his racism and sexism not 829 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 7: visible here. 830 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: That song five sunk sunk. 831 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 7: Okay, thank you, And so I apologize for saying that. 832 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 7: It was just in the tweet anyway. So the point 833 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 7: is he didn't say it, okay, he So let's this 834 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 7: was this was actually funny. I remember this might have 835 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 7: been the first event I met Erica at actually she 836 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 7: was she was with us? Was that politicon in like 837 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 7: twenty eighteen or something like that. I forget something like that. 838 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 7: So let's go ahead and play the actual clip. Charlie 839 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 7: hated when this thing went viral. It Actually he was sweaty. 840 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 7: Later he hold on, we're almost out. Well, well, all right, 841 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 7: we could have played it, but now we can't. Okay, 842 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 7: so I'll do some more backstory here. This was politicon. 843 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 7: He was debating Hassan Piker on stage and then started 844 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 7: from the young Turk started chirping at him from the audience. 845 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 7: Who is Hassan's boss, who's Hassan's box? Who? 846 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 847 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 7: But by the way, it's interesting to note that at 848 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 7: the RNC, Charlie and talked about this moment. And I'll 849 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 7: never forget because so Charlie actually went on their show 850 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 7: and he's like and he said, you know, I live 851 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 7: like a capitalist every day, and and Charlie at the 852 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 7: RNC in twenty twenty four then said, I don't even know, like, 853 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 7: what does that even mean? Arlie. Charlie is like, I've 854 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 7: grown up a lot since that moment. But we will 855 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 7: play the clip for the stream in just the second 856 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 7: for radio. 857 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 858 00:44:52,040 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 7: Don't go anywhere, all right, Welcome back to the Charlie 859 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 7: Kirk Show. Okay, so we're gonna play the clip. 860 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 8: This was of all the Charlie, we have to, we 861 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 8: have to, we have to, we have to say something 862 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 8: right now. It's jank like. That's that's where this started. 863 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 7: Injections. It all started. 864 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 16: As an American, I should not be expected to know 865 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 16: how to pronounce. 866 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 7: I know, but if you're going to do the name, 867 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 7: I know, point of order. 868 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 8: If you're having an event with someone, you should know 869 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 8: how to pronounce. 870 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 7: Still didn't know. I actually saw jan right, I got 871 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,479 Speaker 7: post so Biac, but yeah, soviets. So here's the actual clip. 872 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 7: Let's play it one seventy. 873 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, you're trying to attack me, which is ridiculous, like 874 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 10: asking me what my salary is. 875 00:45:54,680 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 15: Sure, I'll reveal it willingly up in context like large. 876 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 7: The point is larger than that. 877 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 15: Char I live like a capitalist every single day. 878 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: Chank a capitalist? 879 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 13: I live what. 880 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: I what do I do? 881 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 7: I get dirty every single year. 882 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on. 883 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 7: Let's Charlie, let's go. 884 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: Take all right, I know, take a seat. You're gonna 885 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: take a seat. You're gonna take your seat over here. 886 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 7: I go, what's my salary? 887 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 14: All right? 888 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 7: Ridiculous? All right, behave everyone, Jesus Christ. 889 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I practiced what Charlie? 890 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, practice what y'ah? 891 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: I love this moment, Andrew, because this was the first moment, 892 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: and this was this was this was tennis shoes Charlie era. 893 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: So this is when we were talking about those. 894 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 7: Were those were actually easy or what was it. 895 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: Was he wearing the wearing that we got. 896 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 16: I think that was the thought of this kind of 897 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 16: funny is this is Charlie All was very much like 898 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,959 Speaker 16: he would try to he would try to imitate successful people, 899 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 16: so you'd use a lot of like rushisms because he's like, well, 900 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 16: Rushi's the most successful radio host. 901 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 7: I should try to be like Rush. 902 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 16: And all I'm thinking of when I saw that is 903 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 16: do you remember at the twenty sixteen I think was 904 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 16: it the RNC. I think it was the RNC where 905 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 16: Alex Jones he went after I was literally standing next 906 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 16: to that exactly. I was there when it happened, and 907 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 16: I can't I can't always the like, maybe Charlie was like, 908 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 16: Alex Jones is really successful, I should get All. 909 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: I remember is that this was the moment where you know, again, Charlie. 910 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: This was the first time Charlie and really one of 911 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: the only times truly that Charlie went aggressive at somebody, 912 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: and it was it was actually so incredible, like the 913 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: entire office was buzzing that we had a turning point 914 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: two him. 915 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 7: I walked out with him and Erica and I think 916 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 7: Sarah was Sarah. It was Sarah, but Erica was there 917 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 7: at that event, and it was in Los Angeles, down 918 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 7: at the Convention Center, and we walked out and all 919 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 7: of these young guys were like, Charlie, we were walking out. 920 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 7: But it is funny when you think about this in 921 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 7: the context of Charlie's you know, as he matured and grew, 922 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 7: and then he would eventually end up going on the 923 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 7: Young Turks broadcast from the RNC and sort of say, 924 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 7: I don't even know what that meant, you know. And 925 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 7: then we had Chank of course at Amfest, which was 926 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 7: like a big scandal that we would allow what we 927 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 7: would platform Chank. But Chenk was actually you know, at 928 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 7: the RNC, he was like, hey, listen, I vehemently disagree 929 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 7: with you. Got I think you're wrong, but like, let's 930 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 7: you know, he has this line like, let's have a 931 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 7: beer after, and I kept thinking, Charlie doesn't drink, but hello. 932 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 8: Although I will say, if you notice that clip, you 933 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 8: can hear how horse Charlie's throat is. When he's doing that, 934 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 8: that's where the mint tea comes from and the honey. 935 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 7: Yes, he started learning how to protect his voice. So 936 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 7: I think we should take a quick break right there, 937 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 7: and we will welcome back radio for the final segment 938 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 7: of the hour, and Blake's gonna pick our next clip 939 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 7: to debunk and we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere, 940 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 7: empty chair, and uh still doesn't feel real. But his 941 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 7: thought crimes remain, but his crimes remain, and he lives 942 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 7: in all of us. And God has a plan and 943 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 7: God has a harvest, and it's our job to step 944 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 7: into it and so uh, you know, and by the way, 945 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 7: it's you know, the audience has been amazing, and I'm 946 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 7: getting so many notes about this show. I think you 947 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 7: guys are enjoying it. So that's good because we're heaving. 948 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 7: I was sendinges, but they weren't like that. We're having 949 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 7: it before we do the next thing really quick. I 950 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 7: just want since we were were making fun of Jank Josh. 951 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: Segment like jan. 952 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 16: That's how you say it, say it jenk Yuger, that's okay, 953 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 16: Jank Yuger, since we've been making fun of his name 954 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 16: and making fun of his classes with Charlie, I want 955 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 16: to acknowledge there's a lot of people on the left 956 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 16: who said really ugly and really nasty things last two weeks. 957 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 16: Jank has not Jank said very kind things about Charlie. 958 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 16: He was extremely upset about his death. I've got some 959 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 16: of his stuff up here, he says. You know, my 960 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 16: heart goes out to his family. F whoever did this, 961 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 16: we are all now in danger. Violence has always want you. 962 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 16: He's been great on that, so I wanted to give 963 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 16: him a shout out for that. 964 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 7: That's fair. And speaking of he was, I will say 965 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 7: he was a like listen, I disagree with him completely obviously, 966 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 7: and people get mad that we even platformed at Emphas. 967 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 7: He was so gracious, like genuinely gracious. He's just rambunctious. 968 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: Our back and forth with the Young Turks is great too, 969 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: It's like a great It's great for America for the 970 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: back and forth, the volleying and and obviously Charlie on 971 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: our side. 972 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 16: Energetic, intellectual, non violent debit, that's what we want. 973 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: But Jake was also vocally oppositional to the Biden Kamala 974 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: thing and so leaning. It's like, people forget this is like, 975 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: of course we're going to lean in on anyone the left. 976 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 1: That's that's going like basically at com well, that helps 977 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: us and yeah, and that helps us keep going. The 978 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 1: next one. 979 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 16: This is also something that got dunked on really nastily 980 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 16: by people. We'll do the very short version that would 981 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,479 Speaker 16: get shared constantly on TikTok. Let's do the very short 982 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 16: one to eighty six. 983 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 15: I can't stand the word empathy, actually, I think empathy 984 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 15: is a made up new age term that it does 985 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 15: a lot of damage. 986 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 7: Maam. 987 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 16: They would just use that, They would just use that 988 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 16: and crap all over him. Oh Charlie was evil. Now 989 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 16: now we can you know, throw a touchdown, you know, 990 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 16: spike the football because he's dead. We'll explain this out. 991 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 16: Let's do first, Let's just do the full contextual clip. 992 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 16: This was wait, bit, this is I think this is 993 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 16: like my first week on the show. He said this 994 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 16: or you know, working for it back in October twenty 995 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 16: twenty two. Let's play clip one seventy. 996 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 15: Instead, it is to say you're actually not in pain. 997 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 15: So let's just a little, very short clip. Bill Clinton 998 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 15: in the nineteen nineties, it was all about empathy and sympathy. 999 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 15: I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy 1000 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 15: is a made up new age term that it does 1001 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 15: a lot of damage, but it as very effective when 1002 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 15: it comes to politics. 1003 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: Sympathy. 1004 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 7: I prefer more than empathy. 1005 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 15: That's a separate topic for a different time. 1006 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 16: So first of all, a few important things. One, this 1007 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 16: is clearly a like side remark he is making before 1008 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 16: throwing to a video. 1009 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 7: This is not a speech he's giving to the title world. 1010 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 7: It's Clinton going I feel your pain. 1011 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 16: Yeah exactly, he's like riffing on that. But the reason 1012 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 16: he's saying this, it's like, it's just Charlie fixating on 1013 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,919 Speaker 16: the exact words that you use, which he often could do. 1014 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: It's like when you would. 1015 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 16: Complain republic democracy, like the democracy democracy democratic. 1016 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: I would always tease him about that. 1017 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 7: I'm like, we we are democracy, Charlie. 1018 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: But well, technically yeah, exactly, just only when he. 1019 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 16: Uses democracy to mean a country like, you know, the 1020 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 16: United States, at least before Biden everything anyway. But what 1021 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 16: he's getting out there is empathy versus sympathy. So empathy 1022 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 16: means definitionally like the ability to get inside someone else's head. 1023 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 16: You can get in their shoes, you understand how they feel, 1024 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 16: you can and sort of yeah, as you said. 1025 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 8: I would even I would even It's not just that 1026 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 8: you this this is the key difference. It's not that 1027 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 8: you just that you understand because I think that's still 1028 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 8: more sympathy. 1029 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: It's that you actually feel what they think. 1030 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 16: Yeah, oh yeah, that's a good point, and certainly that's 1031 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 16: what people often use it to demand of you. Sympathy, 1032 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 16: which he preferred, is just the more straightforward. You see 1033 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 16: someone in pain and you feel I recognize you, move 1034 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 16: to you, you don't like that, want to help. It's 1035 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 16: a much more it's much more in line with the 1036 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 16: traditional Christian virtue of charity. You want to feel charity 1037 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 16: towards others were. 1038 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 7: Exactly, and that's what Charlie would prefer. 1039 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 16: Whereas when the reason he says it's kind of a 1040 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 16: new age syop is they use that empathy thing for Okay, 1041 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 16: you have to feel the pain I feel, which means 1042 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 16: you have to basically do what I tell you to do. 1043 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 7: It's a sort of morally coercive thing in a way. 1044 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 7: Sympathy is not best sympathy. 1045 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 16: You can have sympathy for someone and still say you 1046 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 16: are incorrect, like you even brought this on yourself, though 1047 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 16: I have sympathy for you and do wish to help you. 1048 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 8: The best example of Charlie on this is Charlie on 1049 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 8: the Whatever podcast, where you can see he has sympathy 1050 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 8: for the sex workers and the only fans girls who 1051 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 8: are there where he gives them value, but also says 1052 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 8: you shouldn't be doing this. 1053 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 7: We should pull that clip. It's such a studio. It's 1054 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 7: a good clip. I was Blake and I were in 1055 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 7: the room that time. All right, this is this is 1056 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 7: the end of our one for radio. I think we're 1057 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 7: just having so much fun. We're gonna keep going through 1058 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 7: the break and for the stream because there's just so 1059 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 7: much unpack. So don't go anywhere. We will be right 1060 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 7: back to radio. We will see you at one of 1061 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 7: six Eastern but in just a few minutes. But we're 1062 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 7: gonna keep going here on the stream. Oh, we do 1063 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 7: we have the we have the Hillary Clinton talking about 1064 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 7: the threat of white Christians if we want to get 1065 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 7: back to that. But anyways, yeah, I. 1066 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: Think we just have to play it because we have 1067 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: he needs to hear it. 1068 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's let me know what, it's loaded, studio. It's loaded, 1069 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 7: okay too. Oh wait, let's play it. 1070 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 21: The idea that you could turn the clock back and 1071 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 21: try to. 1072 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 7: Recreate a world that never was. 1073 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 21: Dominated by you know, let's say it, white men of 1074 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 21: a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point of view, 1075 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 21: a certain ideology is just doing such damage to what 1076 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 21: we should be aiming for. 1077 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,399 Speaker 7: And we were on the path toward that. 1078 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 21: I mean imperfectly, lots of you know, bumps along the way, 1079 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 21: but I agree with you we were on the right trajectory. 1080 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 7: When were we on the right? So's she's telling the truth. 1081 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 8: She's being completely honest about her goals and aims here 1082 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 8: that her target is the demonization of whites, of males, 1083 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 8: and above all else Christians. And so the goal of 1084 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 8: the left, for I don't know what was this from. 1085 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 1: Is this yesterday? 1086 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 7: Is yes yesterday? 1087 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: This is how insane it is. 1088 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 8: And she said we were on a path to removing 1089 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 8: all of that from society, whiteness which they openly talk 1090 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 8: about every day, men which of course are demonized every day, 1091 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 8: and specifically Christianity. 1092 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: And suddenly she says, and. 1093 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 22: We're coming back to that, and we just can't go 1094 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 22: back to that. And she's telling you she's afraid, so 1095 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 22: afraid of the Christian revival that is now happening in America. 1096 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 22: That's why they roll her back out on MSNBC to 1097 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 22: remind everybody, Hey, Hey, we're supposed to be fighting this stuff. 1098 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what's so damaging with this is that 1099 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: there's nobody coming out from mainstream media to dunk on 1100 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton for this is I yes, this point is 1101 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: so important for all of America to hear and to reiterate, 1102 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: villainizing young white Christian men, who Andrew just pointed out 1103 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: with the graph, with the data that's out there, are 1104 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: the least violent, are enabling violence and agitating violence. 1105 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 7: On the left, it was to be clear that was 1106 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 7: young conservatives of both genders, probably, but both sexes rather. 1107 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 7: But yeah, but we could under yeah, I mean Trump 1108 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 7: won probably white males by quite a bit, so there 1109 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 7: is crossover in those two. 1110 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 1: Given that data with moderates, I mean, the moderates aren't 1111 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: young Christian males, that's true. Yea, the young white Christian 1112 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: males are becoming significantly more conservative, which is leaving behind 1113 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: this small fragmentation that are not being handled because of 1114 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: the statements like hillaries, which I totally agree. 1115 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 7: I totally agree. 1116 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 8: I want to get your point to Andrew's point, we 1117 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 8: did have a mass shooting of Christian children by a female, 1118 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 8: Audrey Hale in twenty twenty three in Nashville. And but 1119 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 8: again this is a female who was believing that she 1120 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 8: was a male. 1121 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, all right, next one Biden execution. This this 1122 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 7: so I I'll admit, like in the days that followed, 1123 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 7: I think it was like literally the day of I 1124 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 7: saw this clip from somebody being passed around the day 1125 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 7: he you know, I maybe it was the day after, 1126 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 7: because the day it happened, I couldn't go on social 1127 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 7: media at all. 1128 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: But the Biden. 1129 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 7: Execution, I was like, I don't remember Charlie calling for 1130 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 7: and I think they said publicly executed. That was the 1131 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 7: quote I said. I was like, man, I I was 1132 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 7: mixing up two things? 1133 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 8: Is what This happens to me all the time too, 1134 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 8: Like it would be like Jack Prosovic said this, and 1135 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 8: I'm like, I don't actually recall saying about like or 1136 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 8: anything close. 1137 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 7: So this is actually the clip, right, Blake. One seventy 1138 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 7: six is the is. 1139 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 16: The we can do both talk. We'll do both things 1140 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 16: that went together because people did merge. Okay, but let's 1141 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 16: we'll do the Biden one first. Yeah, one seventy six. 1142 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 15: She gives these speeches and it just has this aura 1143 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 15: of totalitarianism. My team says she's Indian and Caribbean. I'll 1144 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 15: tell you what, she would be a lot easier to 1145 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 15: beat than Joe Biden, a lot. I mean, Joe Biden 1146 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 15: is a bumbling, dementia fild Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should 1147 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 15: honestly be put in prison and or given the death 1148 00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 15: penalty for his crimes against America. But Camel Harris, my goodness, 1149 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 15: there's something that just kind of is tribal, where people 1150 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 15: are like, I don't know if I want this crazy 1151 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 15: person running the country, all. 1152 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 16: Right, so may definitely I need to definitely take some 1153 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 16: blame on this one. I don't know for sure because 1154 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 16: I don't think we have like records of that, but 1155 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 16: I'm pretty sure I was in the telegram chat and 1156 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 16: I was like egging on Charlie where I was just like, 1157 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 16: Biden stinks like he should be in jail, can execute. 1158 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 7: And I explained this dynamic. So when I first met Charlie, 1159 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 7: Charlie was against capital punishment, so he did not booo. 1160 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 7: So then he then Blake joins the team, and Blake 1161 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 7: is I would say, if you're radical on one issue, 1162 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 7: it's it's probably that issue. Blake, Blake wants to bring back, like, 1163 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 7: you know, capital punishment in all various forms, and you 1164 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 7: can I know sometimes you're like joking, but sometimes it's 1165 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 7: hard to like figure out what that is. But in general, 1166 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 7: I would say your position is that capital punishment takes 1167 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 7: too long and and you know, you're essentially twenty years later, 1168 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 7: somebody eventually gets put to death for a crime they committed. 1169 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 7: Sometimes the victims' families and their loved ones are have 1170 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 7: passed on themselves. 1171 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, you've got people that. 1172 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 7: Barely remember the crime that are witnessing it and it 1173 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 7: and it, and it ceases to have the the effect 1174 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 7: that capital punishment is supposed to have, which is a 1175 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 7: deterrent effect. Right, And so your point is like, hey, listen, 1176 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 7: if we have somebody we know they did it, it 1177 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 7: should happen quickly. So that's not so that's what we're gotting. 1178 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 16: I know, Biden won the Biden one, what we're getting 1179 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 16: at is but that with the Biden one, what we're 1180 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 16: getting at is really he was trying to basically just 1181 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 16: drive home The reason he would sometimes speak really intensely 1182 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 16: about Biden that way is he really wants to drive 1183 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 16: home how disaster disastrous, how like treacherous, So might even 1184 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 16: fuss over using the word treats that you did. 1185 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 7: You kept you kept trying to tell us not to 1186 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 7: use the word. 1187 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 16: But then it's just like the Biden situation at the 1188 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 16: border was basically total open border. You can get in 1189 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 16: if you use about ten different code works, you. 1190 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 7: Can come in. 1191 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 16: Like we have not just people coming in from Mexico 1192 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 16: or Central America, we have tens of thousands of people 1193 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,479 Speaker 16: coming in unchecked from China, from Mauritankistan, from Pakistan, from 1194 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 16: like the worst places in the world. No checks could 1195 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 16: be here for any reason, any sinister reason. Spies, militants, 1196 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 16: drug dealers, gangsters, all sorts of the stuff being deliberately 1197 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 16: enabled and just let alone. And we were like, we 1198 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 16: should actually come out and be like, okay, substantively, at 1199 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 16: what point are you just as a leader like midwifing 1200 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 16: an invasion of your own country And at that point 1201 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 16: that's like treason. And so that's what we were getting out. 1202 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Plus the marriage of the Biden family with all these 1203 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: foreign entities. I mean, it's just it's it never has 1204 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 1: been talked about, it never has been purely truly investigated. 1205 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: It's never been the time has not been spent, certainly 1206 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: from the mainstream media. And so yeah, I mean the 1207 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: invasion of our country I think is married directly to that, 1208 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 1: and that has to be still discussed. And every time 1209 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: Trump opens his mouth about it, it's like he gets 1210 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 1: slapped down by anyone and everyone. And Charlie was one 1211 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: of the only people I talked about it, and God 1212 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: bless him for it. 1213 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 16: Yeah, and then so that the Biden one then mixed 1214 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 16: up with the other one. We had a great conversation 1215 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 16: on thought crime. This was back in February twenty twenty four. 1216 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 16: Thank you Media Matters for continuing to be a great 1217 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 16: clipper of all fat crime content. 1218 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 7: This is basically how we found this last night. 1219 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 16: Actually, I don't think we have this clips right now, 1220 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 16: and it's pretty long, but I want to read the 1221 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 16: quote because it's amazing. 1222 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 7: So this is uh, remember this, Can I give a 1223 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 7: shout out because. 1224 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 8: Media's Lies is actually clipping our show live right now. 1225 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 16: Great, thank you very much Mediaized, which is way better, 1226 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 16: way cooler than Media Matters. But I am still grateful 1227 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 16: to diligent work on our behalf. So this is Charlie saying, 1228 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 16: you know, my other problem with the death penalty. It 1229 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 16: takes too long, too many appeals. Tyler says it's too expensive, 1230 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 16: and then Charlie says it should be public, should be quick, 1231 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 16: and it should be televised. And then Tyler pointed out, 1232 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 16: he's like, the last execution France was the guillotine in 1233 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 16: nineteen seventy seventh. Yeah, and then they used it all 1234 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 16: the way till nineteen seventy seven. 1235 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 7: And then Tyler says, that's so cool. 1236 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: So again, yeah, the point is. 1237 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 7: So he never said the word children. 1238 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:18,919 Speaker 1: No. 1239 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 16: Well, so what happened was we're saying it should be 1240 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 16: done in public and people should watch it. 1241 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 7: And then he threw out, how young do we do that? 1242 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 7: And I said, I said twelve maybe, oh I remember that. Yeah, 1243 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 7: And again the point is you can disagree with this sentiment. 1244 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 7: That's totally fair. But again, there is a difference between 1245 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 7: when the state arrest somebody for a vicious crime and 1246 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 7: a jury of his peers pronounces him guilty in the 1247 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 7: first degree and there is capital punishment, and that that 1248 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 7: person should be should the sentence should be carried out. 1249 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 7: And by the way, I just want to say, by 1250 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 7: the end of Charlie's life, he was pro death penalty. 1251 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 7: I remember asking him that a couple months ago, are 1252 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 7: you sure your your you're that you believe that the 1253 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 7: state has the right and he he said yeah, yeah, 1254 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 7: he said absolutely no and and and that was an 1255 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 7: evolution for him. 1256 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: And this is the point, Yeah, this is the point 1257 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: with that conversation is that it was that the public 1258 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: knew about what was going on. It wasn't about the 1259 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: the grittiness of it. It was about the public knowledge 1260 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: of death. It was a deterrent of capital punishment. That's 1261 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: the whole point of capital punishment. 1262 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 7: All right, we are going to welcome back radio for 1263 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 7: the start of hour too many more clips to get to, 1264 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 7: We'll be right back. All right, Welcome back to the 1265 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk Show. Start of hour two. We are debunking 1266 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 7: the some of the clips that have been going viral, 1267 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 7: mostly by the left that don't believe Charlie is all 1268 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 7: that and a bag of potato chips. I think, you 1269 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 7: know it's funny. I was telling a very prominent Fox 1270 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 7: News host this morning. I was texting back and forth 1271 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 7: with this person and I said something that struck me. 1272 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 7: Even as I said it, I was like, wow, that 1273 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 7: was really succinct. And I'm going to remember that that 1274 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 7: I said, I was closer to Charlie than basically, you know, 1275 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 7: anybody outside of Erica, maybe Mikey or whatever. And it 1276 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 7: strikes me that I was so close to him, and 1277 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 7: yet how much he reminds me of I'm not equating 1278 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 7: the two, but how much his life reminded me of 1279 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 7: the example of Jesus christ Like. So to be that 1280 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 7: close to somebody and to see it up close and 1281 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 7: see how well he lived out the lessons of Jesus 1282 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 7: in the Bible. Again, I'm not equating them. Charlie was 1283 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 7: an imperfect person who. 1284 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 8: It's how Charlie emulated his life. He emulated from the 1285 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 8: example of Jesus to be christ Like. So he was 1286 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 8: actively trying. He was trying to be like you're just 1287 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 8: recognizing that Charlie is doing. 1288 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 7: But it's amazing to its strike looking to me that 1289 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 7: I got to be so close to it, and how 1290 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 7: true and honest. That's actually the way that I saw Charlie. 1291 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 7: How he lived his life was so like, so christ Like, 1292 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 7: and especially as he got older, he got more and 1293 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 7: more christ Like, and his policies got better, and his 1294 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 7: positions got better and his arguments got better, and that 1295 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 7: was an outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the wisdom 1296 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 7: of God that was coming out of Charlie. And I 1297 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 7: just think that's remarkable that I was that close and 1298 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 7: I genuinely really feel that and believe it. 1299 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: He was so thoughtful about the way that he approached 1300 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: every question and every personality and every person and that 1301 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: was part of the thing. I think that was a 1302 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 1: lot of his christ like ability was that he studied 1303 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 1: the scriptures every single day. He was very prayerful, extraordinarily focused, 1304 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: but every single person that approached him, similar to some 1305 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: of the stories about Jesus, was that he would be thoughtful. 1306 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: It was never just like shoot off the head, off 1307 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,919 Speaker 1: the cuff, dismissive. He was never that way. 1308 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 7: And it personally he was a maze and he was 1309 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 7: always so encouraging to It didn't matter if you were 1310 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 7: somebody famous or somebody completely obscure. He was always the same, 1311 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 7: very thoughtful. 1312 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's what enabled people to follow him 1313 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: like that discipleship analogy is that so many people he 1314 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: was able to gather and have follow him that were 1315 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 1: able to get. 1316 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 7: The work done. I completely agree, and one of I mean, 1317 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 7: do we want to get to the civil rights thing. 1318 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 13: We'll get to it. 1319 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 16: You want to go, Let's do another, Let's do another 1320 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 16: shorter one. Let's do the wives submit to her husband's kind? 1321 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 16: This is again, this is like barely even a smear. 1322 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 16: It's just people deciding to be nasty people. 1323 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 7: That don't understand that as a Christian, we believe the Bible. 1324 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 16: It's like Charlie is a Bible believe in Christian and 1325 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 16: the Bible says a lot of things about marriage. 1326 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 7: It says stuff in one. 1327 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 16: Peter chapter three says stuff in Titus chapter two says stuff. 1328 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 7: Whatever. 1329 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 16: Colausians chapter three, and Ephesians Colossie. 1330 01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 7: Roads right, Colossians, that's what. That's what. It's too right. 1331 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 7: It's weird when you hear it wrong and then you're like, wait, 1332 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 7: did I keep going? Keep going? 1333 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 16: I have to first find out if the episodes of 1334 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 16: the Colossion if it is cautions, but did he write 1335 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 16: it to Rhodes. That's why I'm China, Oh it's Colossal. 1336 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 16: Dang it No, cos I know, but I thought it 1337 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 16: might be like the people of the Colossus. But there's 1338 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 16: an actual city named Colossal, right, Dang it continue seven, right, okay, anyway, yeah, 1339 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 16: let's do uh well, that's seven is just a photo 1340 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 16: of him tweeting it for debunking already. 1341 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 7: But this is like not even really a debunking it. 1342 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 16: It's more like Charlie actually lived his life as a Christian, 1343 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 16: so he would emphasize, Yeah, he would talk about why. 1344 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,600 Speaker 7: Submitting to your husband. Let's let's do one seventy eight 1345 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 7: as an example. 1346 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 15: This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift 1347 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 15: more conservative, engage in reality more, and get outside of 1348 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 15: the abstract clouds. Reject feminism, submit to your husband, Taylor, 1349 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 15: you're not in charge. And most importantly, I can't wait 1350 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 15: to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert. I can't say 1351 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 15: it without laughing. You gotta change your name. If not, 1352 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 15: you don't really mean it. Congratulations Taylor. He did not 1353 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 15: get enough credit for how funny he was. 1354 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was great. 1355 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Great he evoked Taylor's name, so we got well, yeah. 1356 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 7: That was another one. I think that where I just 1357 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 7: threw and like rite as a segment, she should change 1358 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 7: your name, and then he through that out there. 1359 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 16: But yeah, it's like, but Charlie was also very clear 1360 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 16: about what that meant like that. You know, husbands are 1361 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 16: supposed to lay down their lives for their wives, as 1362 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 16: Christ laid down himself for the church. That's the comparison 1363 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 16: that pops up in the New Testament. It's that the 1364 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,879 Speaker 16: relationship between Christ and the Church is like a husband 1365 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:48,799 Speaker 16: and a wife. 1366 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 7: That is like the ideal they are setting. And so 1367 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 7: what does Christ do? 1368 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 16: Christ's leads, but Christ also sacrifices himself on the cross 1369 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 16: for the church. Husbands are supposed to lay down their 1370 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 16: lives for their wives. And as we know, Charlie lived that. 1371 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 16: Charlie did that himself, and Charlie gladly did that all 1372 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:07,679 Speaker 16: the way to this. 1373 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 7: This one has very few teeth in my opinion, because 1374 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,839 Speaker 7: people have gotten to see Erica Kirk and the strength 1375 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 7: that she has. And by the way, this is breaking news. 1376 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 7: I'm just gonna do it right now. Yeah, I'm gonna 1377 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 7: do it. Erica Kirk is going to be on this 1378 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 7: program tomorrow. She will be on this program tomorrow. So 1379 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,599 Speaker 7: set your set your calendars, make it, make it an alert. 1380 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 7: We are gonna have Erica Kirk on The Charlie Kirk 1381 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 7: Show for the first time since all of this, all 1382 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 7: of this has happened, and she is going to talk 1383 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 7: to the Charlie Kirkshow audience. So we're very, very honored 1384 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 7: that she is going to be making the time. She's 1385 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 7: you know, she's not like Charlie in the sense that 1386 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 7: she's doing this podcast. In this podcast, she is a 1387 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 7: grieving widow. She is got a lot on her plate. 1388 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 15: Wow. 1389 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 7: And the fact that she's doing this with us tomorrow 1390 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 7: is it is it real treat and in a real 1391 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 7: special honor. I mean, you wouldn't believe the type of 1392 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 7: inquiries of the people that want to talk to her. 1393 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,719 Speaker 7: So she wants to talk to you in the audience, 1394 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 7: real real Americans and the people that love Charlie. And 1395 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 7: so that's what we're gonna do it tomorrow. We will 1396 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 7: have Erica Kirk. 1397 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Andrew and she's actually, as we speak right now, this 1398 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,719 Speaker 1: is what I've been Somebody was like, Andrew's busting tiger 1399 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 1: for be on this phone. 1400 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,680 Speaker 7: Eric is actually on a zoom. 1401 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 1: Call with all of our staff right now, you know, 1402 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: getting everybody organized, working with everyone, and she she is 1403 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 1: at the like, as we speak right now, that's what 1404 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 1: we're doing, and everybody is working, uh, you know, full 1405 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 1: steam ahead. Here uh to uh answer the calls that 1406 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: behind Erica's leadership. And so I'm excited to see her 1407 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow because there's a lot to cover. But she has 1408 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: been an incredibly brave soul through all of this, and 1409 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: and it is it has emboldened. 1410 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 7: All of us. Yeah. Well, and that's this just goes 1411 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 7: to show you there's a there's a clip of this 1412 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 7: actually African American woman who or a black woman, however 1413 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 7: we like to say it on the show. We usually 1414 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 7: use that the latter. But she she's so sweet. She 1415 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,640 Speaker 7: said to Charlie, Uh, she said, you know how I 1416 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 7: know she didn't like Charlie at first, and she started 1417 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,680 Speaker 7: following the things Charlie said though at some point and 1418 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 7: she's like, you know how I know Charlie Kirk was 1419 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 7: right about this stuff because when I did the things 1420 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 7: that Charlie encouraged me to do, my life got markedly 1421 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 7: better better. And uh, you can see that the way 1422 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 7: that Charlie viewed marriage, the way that the way that 1423 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 7: the Bible prescribes a healthy and godly marriage is amazing. 1424 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 7: And Charlie tweeted that after he said he said God's 1425 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 7: design for marri a marriage is amazing, And now you 1426 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 7: see the kind of woman that is involved in a healthy, 1427 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 7: balanced relationship where they are not rivals. That line was 1428 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,960 Speaker 7: so powerful to me. You are not your husband's rival. 1429 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 7: Erica said that at the event. I want to sure 1430 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 7: if you want to play. Yeah, let's do. 1431 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 16: I think I think these go consecutively. It yesterday, Yeah, 1432 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 16: let's do. 1433 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 1: How about we do? 1434 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 16: I think one twenty one and one twenty two are consecutive. 1435 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 16: Might have to flesh this real quick, but let's do. 1436 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 16: Let's do that. Let's do one twenty one immediately followed 1437 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 16: by one twenty two. 1438 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 14: To all the men watching around the world, accept Charlie's 1439 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 14: challenge and embrace true manhood. Be strong and courageous for 1440 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 14: your families. Love your wives and lead them, Love your 1441 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 14: children and protect them. Be the spiritual head of your home. 1442 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 14: But please be a leader worth following. But please be 1443 01:13:54,479 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 14: a leader worth following your wife. Your wife is not 1444 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:16,839 Speaker 14: your servant. Your wife is not your employee. Your wife 1445 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 14: is not your slave. She is your helper. You are 1446 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 14: not rivals. You are one flesh working together for the 1447 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 14: glory of God. 1448 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 7: Amen Kirk, and I would say that Erica Kirk and sorry, 1449 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,719 Speaker 7: we missed a radio throw there, but that's fine. Erica 1450 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 7: Kirk is the debunking, the living embodiment of that of 1451 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 7: this critique of Charlie. 1452 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,639 Speaker 1: It's not really like a lie. 1453 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 7: It's like, you really believe this. You just hate the 1454 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 7: Bible what it is. 1455 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 8: And by the way, I could sit here for an 1456 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 8: hour and talk about how just remarkable it is that 1457 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 8: Erica is doing all of this while going through this 1458 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,560 Speaker 8: at the same time being there for the kids and 1459 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 8: all this. It's incredible to witness, just incredible to witness. 1460 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 8: And I mean that truly and as someone who I 1461 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 8: can consider a friend. 1462 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:12,639 Speaker 7: And that. 1463 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 8: There's so many people who just don't understand Christianity. And 1464 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 8: I said this the other night on one of the interviews, 1465 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 8: is that when they watched that memorial service and they 1466 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 8: saw so many aspects of Christian society that aren't normally 1467 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 8: infused in. 1468 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,759 Speaker 7: Public society, in the public space. 1469 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 8: So certain quotes from the Bible, which by the way, 1470 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,679 Speaker 8: go up against what the secular idols of the age 1471 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 8: right that we've been talking about, like what thought crime 1472 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 8: is all about. That's one of them right there. This 1473 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 8: is a biblically ordered marriage, a biblically ordered relationship. And 1474 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 8: when you see these things in public, it can be 1475 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 8: confusing to members of the media or people who are 1476 01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,640 Speaker 8: raised secularly or live secularly that just don't get it 1477 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 8: and don't understand what we're talking about because they're so 1478 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,680 Speaker 8: far removed from the Bible itself. And so I think 1479 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 8: it's amazing to actually just be able to show that that, yeah, 1480 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 8: we have strong wives everyone, you know, every one of 1481 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,639 Speaker 8: us that's married, we have very strong wives. And we're 1482 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 8: very blessed to have wives that are far better than 1483 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 8: we deserve. 1484 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 7: And and that's great. 1485 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 8: And that doesn't mean that, you know, we we sit 1486 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,559 Speaker 8: there and play the you know, the old game of 1487 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 8: like you know, happy and wife, happy a wife, you know, 1488 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 8: or any of that. But it's it's you have to 1489 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 8: be a man who's deserving of that. Just said in 1490 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 8: the chat they're all blonde. 1491 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 1: That's true. 1492 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 7: There's you know, it is more generally it's interesting your 1493 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 7: wife's blonde. Your wife's blonde, Erica's blonde. 1494 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna get like fornettes too. 1495 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 7: And then I met Tanya and I was like, okay, 1496 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 7: we're growing blonde. There we go. 1497 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,759 Speaker 16: You know, in general, I kind of wanted to flag 1498 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 16: this just because it is so inter resting. After the memorial, 1499 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 16: some people have basically come out and been like like 1500 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 16: they're they're deeply unsettled that there was this big event 1501 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,759 Speaker 16: where people were praying and you know, talking about normal. 1502 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,920 Speaker 16: So Thomas Chatterton Williams, who's just this very funny guy, 1503 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 16: he's a writer at the Atlantic. He's written, you know, 1504 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,759 Speaker 16: he's kind of this one of those like centrists writers 1505 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 16: who's respected or whatever. He's not nuts, but he had 1506 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,960 Speaker 16: this response where he tweeted, I've spent half my life, 1507 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,479 Speaker 16: half of my adult life, living in one foreign country 1508 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 16: or another, and I don't think I've ever felt as 1509 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 16: a strange from the surrounding culture as I am from 1510 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 16: the aesthetics and sensibilities of this movement, meaning the people 1511 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 16: at our at our memorial, not even a criticism. 1512 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 1: I just feel more. 1513 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 16: At home in Greece than these images, and it's you know, 1514 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 16: images of er. Then Matt yeah, and then Matt Walsh 1515 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,720 Speaker 16: is like, then leave, then leave, and that's like a 1516 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 16: good answer, Then leave. If you can't handle like American 1517 01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 16: popular Protestant culture, like you don't like America because we've 1518 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 16: had this since the Great Awakened. 1519 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know there's this idea, well, America has 1520 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 8: always been a Christian majority nation. 1521 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 16: Christian majority, but also just very culturally it is low 1522 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 16: church Protestantism is like the big thing that has contributed 1523 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 16: culturally to American news. 1524 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 8: Well, and the founders said, over and over all of 1525 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 8: this is for a Christian nation, and if you walk 1526 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 8: away from with you know, the flip side of that 1527 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 8: being that if you walk away from Christianity, none of 1528 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,680 Speaker 8: this stuff is going to work. John Adams, he warned us, 1529 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 8: Sure did. 1530 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 1: So. 1531 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 7: I think that's I think that's really spot on. And 1532 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 7: I just again, I'm just going to reiterate that Erica 1533 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 7: is the living embodiment of the debunking of the fact 1534 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 7: that Charlie was anywhere anything but one hundred thousand percent 1535 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 7: right about husband's wife. And by the way, it was 1536 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,080 Speaker 7: always just funny to me that every time Charlie would 1537 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,599 Speaker 7: utter the word Taylor Swift or the name Taylor's would 1538 01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 7: that it would just explode and there would be like 1539 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,679 Speaker 7: fifteen articles written about it, and poor Daisy and Emma 1540 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 7: would just be freaking out because they're huge Swifties, which 1541 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 7: you know, listen. This is a free country. They are 1542 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 7: free to make mistakes and that's fine. No, I actually 1543 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 7: actually don't have any animus towards t Swift or is 1544 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 7: it Travis Taylor Kelsey? 1545 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 2: No? 1546 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 1: Is it? 1547 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 7: Is it going to be that? Do you think she's No? 1548 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 7: Is he going to be wearing the dress? That's what 1549 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 7: I want to so? Is she gonna wear the talks? 1550 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 7: And he's gonna we're being bad? No, it's Travis Swift. 1551 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 7: He's a very man. He's a very player. 1552 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Like he's listen to him talk. 1553 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 7: He's very famd. 1554 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 1: Okay, well, maybe yes, we have no animus towards Taylor 1555 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Swift or anyone you guys. 1556 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 7: I don't, I don't. I don't share the animals. I've 1557 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,439 Speaker 7: always been very clear about that. We're going to welcome 1558 01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 7: back radio, and we're gonna go to the next topic 1559 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,559 Speaker 7: because I'm not backing. Je's probably gonna get written up 1560 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 7: now it's a I've already written. 1561 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,600 Speaker 1: Charlie's gonna get right on it. 1562 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 7: You say, now, it's just out the way it works, 1563 01:19:55,439 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 7: all right, He's welcome better in just one second, all right, 1564 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show Radio stations across 1565 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 7: the country. And by the way, you know, you guys 1566 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 7: have been so sweet I've gotten I mean, I can't 1567 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 7: keep up with the messages like Charlie does, but so 1568 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 7: many of you are asking how you can support us 1569 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 7: or help us, and I just I know that God 1570 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,639 Speaker 7: has his hand on this show and on Charlie's legacy 1571 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,640 Speaker 7: and what Erica is going to do with this, and 1572 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 7: she's behind this one hundred percent. I told I've told 1573 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,680 Speaker 7: this before, but Erica gave me a couple directions in 1574 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,560 Speaker 7: the immediate aftermath, and it was you're our spokesman. Go 1575 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,040 Speaker 7: out and be a spokesman. Okay, do the interviews. Okay, 1576 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 7: I will do. What Erica says is our she's our leader, 1577 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 7: she's the beating heart, the spiritual center of turning point 1578 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 7: and even of the show. And then she said, you 1579 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 7: got to keep the show going. And so we're going 1580 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 7: to keep the show going. And I know that you 1581 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,519 Speaker 7: guys have heard that message loud and clear. I said 1582 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 7: it in my speech. And if you do want to 1583 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 7: help us, that's so sweet of you to ask. People 1584 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 7: keep asking. So I'm just gonna do this once. I 1585 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 7: hope this isn't you know, come off weird or anything, 1586 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 7: but you guys keep messaging, so we do have the shirts. 1587 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 7: If you want to get the shirts at the you 1588 01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 7: can do that, and so many of you have, so 1589 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,599 Speaker 7: thank you for that. And if you want to become 1590 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 7: a member members dot Charliekirk dot com, we're still doing 1591 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,719 Speaker 7: the members stuff and we're still going to do members 1592 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 7: calls and all that stuff is going to keep keep going, 1593 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,679 Speaker 7: so so please do those two things. And it means 1594 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 7: a lot, and you're helping help and support us in 1595 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 7: kind of some uncertain times. So it's it's very great. 1596 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 7: We're very grateful to you. We should let's go to 1597 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 7: the next club, well, go ahead. 1598 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 8: Oh, just because we haven't mentioned yet, we should throw 1599 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,400 Speaker 8: a shout out to Megan Kelly for the. 1600 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:34,800 Speaker 1: Grief last night. 1601 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 7: Oh my gush. Yeah, thank you for reminding me of 1602 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 7: Virginia Tech, Glenn Younkin, Megan Kelly. 1603 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: People. 1604 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,800 Speaker 7: We are so limited by the venue sizes. So we 1605 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,320 Speaker 7: have a couple of events coming up that have about 1606 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 7: nine thousand seats or almost close to ten thousands, so 1607 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 7: we'll be able to fit more and more people in 1608 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,439 Speaker 7: at some of these. Some of the venues are just smaller, 1609 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 7: but I'm sure we could have filled up a nine 1610 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 7: thousand person venue last night with Megan Kelly and Glenn 1611 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,679 Speaker 7: Youngkin at Virginia Tech. But it was amazing and such 1612 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 7: a success. And I have so much respect for Michael Knowles, 1613 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 7: who's been a friend for a long time, and Megan, 1614 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 7: who's been a friend for a long time. Never met 1615 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 7: Glenn Younkin, but I have respect that he came out 1616 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 7: there and got behind what we're doing here at Turning 1617 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 7: Point and where the show must go on, The tours 1618 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,920 Speaker 7: must go on, Amfest will go on in December, and 1619 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 7: so much more. We have a lot of plans that 1620 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 7: are getting formulated as we speak. So Charlie's legacy and 1621 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 7: his goodness and his mission blesses us now even still, 1622 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 7: and we are going to be good stewards of that energy. 1623 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,800 Speaker 7: Charlie would demand that we capture this energy and help 1624 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,719 Speaker 7: this country. And you know, we're doing it for Charlie, 1625 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,799 Speaker 7: We're doing it for America, and we're doing it because 1626 01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 7: we love the Lord, and the Lord has his hand 1627 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 7: on this, and we believe it. So let's go to 1628 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,640 Speaker 7: the next one, Blake, what's the next I think we 1629 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,800 Speaker 7: have to go to civil rights we have two big. 1630 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,680 Speaker 16: Topics to hit, and I think Civil Rights Act as 1631 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 16: the better of the two to start with. 1632 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,560 Speaker 7: So this is again this loops. 1633 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,720 Speaker 16: Back to the Dei Pilots thing, which this is like 1634 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 16: the big miasthma. 1635 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:57,519 Speaker 7: But I think this is one of the ones. 1636 01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 16: Obama literally attacked us over the stuff he said up 1637 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 16: about this, sure did. And it's just let's start with 1638 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,560 Speaker 16: like kind of this montage that from Charlie Let's do 1639 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 16: clip one seventy one, and. 1640 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,839 Speaker 15: The Civil Rights Act, though, let's be clear, created a beast, 1641 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 15: and that beast has now turned into an. 1642 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,839 Speaker 1: Anti white weapon. 1643 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 15: This topic would have been even more forbidden four or 1644 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 15: five years ago, but it's now becoming in more and 1645 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 15: more mainstream circles. Is that because the problem is becoming 1646 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,839 Speaker 15: worse or but our side is more courageous to confront 1647 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 15: the present reality, not the ideal. The reality of the 1648 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,719 Speaker 15: Civil Rights Act and how it's being used is making 1649 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,919 Speaker 15: it harder for us to pursue excellence as a society. 1650 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:41,679 Speaker 1: Here's a fact. 1651 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 15: Since the Civil Rights Act passed, I think that it's 1652 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 15: fair to say any sort of racist sentiments that are 1653 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 15: in America have gone, at least individually amongst white people 1654 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,880 Speaker 15: towards black people have gone away. What I'm trying to 1655 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 15: counter is the reason we talk about race so much 1656 01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 15: is because we have a federal holiday to a guy 1657 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,959 Speaker 15: that talked about. 1658 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 1: Race all the time. 1659 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,799 Speaker 15: We celebrate the Civil Rights Act more than the American Founding. 1660 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 7: That that last part is really the core. Yeah, that 1661 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,160 Speaker 7: really bothered Charlie, that we that we would honor these 1662 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 7: these the second you know foundation if you will, the 1663 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,719 Speaker 7: third really he ascribed to the Caldwell theory. 1664 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, so this second founding superseded the actual founding. 1665 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 16: So yeah, there's this book that everyone should be aware of. 1666 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 16: This book because it's very important even if you haven't 1667 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 16: read it. Though it's not long. It's called out The 1668 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 16: Age of Entitlement by Chris Caldwell. 1669 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 7: I think we've sold more copies of that book for 1670 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,559 Speaker 7: Chris Caldwell than any quite possibly. 1671 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,720 Speaker 16: And to be clear, Chris Caldwell is the guy who 1672 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 16: is do we have that in the b rol put 1673 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 16: it up if you can to sixteen. 1674 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:42,880 Speaker 7: I think we just got it. 1675 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 16: Uh and uh so this guy works for he writes 1676 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 16: for the New York Times. 1677 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 7: He's not an obscure person. He is not a like, 1678 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:52,680 Speaker 7: he's not a nobody, He's not this big war. 1679 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 16: And what he says in the Age of Entitlement is 1680 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 16: he basically says that in the nineteen sixties we sort 1681 01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,479 Speaker 16: of refounded America on you know, civil rights stuff that 1682 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,959 Speaker 16: we passed, and we basically took America from the original 1683 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 16: constitutional order to a new one where basically America's chief 1684 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,599 Speaker 16: purpose is beinging like anti racist and like pro equality but. 1685 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 8: Sort of not really, which is what everyone on the 1686 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,120 Speaker 8: left believed. Yes, Clinton just went on a MISNBC and 1687 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 8: explained this is what we believe. 1688 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 16: Yes, and so what we've gotten is we've gotten a 1689 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:29,160 Speaker 16: new reality where everything we do basically revolves around like 1690 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 16: the pursuit of this new civil ights order. And we're 1691 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 16: about to go to a break. I want to explain this. 1692 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 16: There's kind of multiple pieces to it. This is something 1693 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 16: people are going to have to know going forward because 1694 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,000 Speaker 16: this is a core part of this admin and kind 1695 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:42,880 Speaker 16: of what modern conservatism is. 1696 01:25:43,000 --> 01:26:01,320 Speaker 7: All Right, we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere, all right, 1697 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 7: continue on because this is a deep, deep, well. So 1698 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 7: this is what you'll see when whoever you see these 1699 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 7: Charlie clips. 1700 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,480 Speaker 16: What he'll say is he'll say the Act had good intentions, 1701 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 16: it had bad long term consequences. 1702 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 7: Fact and this is very true because the Civil Rights Act. 1703 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 16: And other laws like it basically just said, oh, you 1704 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 16: can't racially discriminate against people in hiring, in various things. 1705 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 16: But the way it basically immediately was used by bureaucrats, 1706 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 16: by activists, and most importantly, by judges and the courts 1707 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 16: was to mean the exact opposite of what people thought 1708 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 16: they were passing. Instead of it's illegal to discriminate, it 1709 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,760 Speaker 16: became its mandatory to discriminate. This came from a thing 1710 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,760 Speaker 16: called disparate impact. If you haven't heard of it, it's 1711 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,680 Speaker 16: still very important in your life. Disparate impact is a 1712 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 16: court doctrine where if you do something like if you 1713 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,360 Speaker 16: have a test to hire someone, if you have some 1714 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 16: sort of hiring standard, and it produces a disparate impact, 1715 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 16: it doesn't affect everyone equally, different groups pass it more 1716 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,639 Speaker 16: than others, then it can be used to find your 1717 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,840 Speaker 16: violating civil rights law. The obvious problem with this is 1718 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,720 Speaker 16: everything has a desperate impact, literally everything you know. No 1719 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 16: one has found a test a standard that does not 1720 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 16: apply differently based on your sex, your race, your religion, 1721 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,040 Speaker 16: not because those things guide up. 1722 01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 7: I mean, they just don't have. 1723 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 8: Anything else to This gets into the very same problem 1724 01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 8: as DEI that we were talking about, where Charlie was 1725 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 8: for a color blind society based on merit, based on 1726 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 8: who's the best for the job, the slot in IVY 1727 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 8: League or any school, and that equal standards should be applied. 1728 01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 8: And suddenly we have this new piece of legislation that's like, well, 1729 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:49,679 Speaker 8: again well intentioned, but it creates these systems that Blake 1730 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 8: is going through that really kind of take us to 1731 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,600 Speaker 8: places that I don't think we're intended at all and 1732 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 8: certainly are not in line with our founders exactly. 1733 01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 16: And the important thing is it basically, since everything has 1734 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 16: this is essentially made everything illegal and as a result, 1735 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 16: everything is just subject to the whim of bureaucrats. And 1736 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 16: this is where it gets really toxic. How do you 1737 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,679 Speaker 16: know whether you're violating this law? Well, basically everyone's violating 1738 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,680 Speaker 16: this law, so it's just does the government like you 1739 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 16: or not? And one thing this does is it causes 1740 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,840 Speaker 16: this endless escalation where that's why we have like the 1741 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,320 Speaker 16: tyranny of HR directors is that everyone's like, well, how 1742 01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 16: do we prove we're not violating the law. We don't 1743 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,040 Speaker 16: have you know, our companies demographics don't match the US's 1744 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,600 Speaker 16: because almost nobody does. Our hiring is not match the 1745 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 16: demographics of who applies, so we need to, you know, 1746 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,559 Speaker 16: juice the numbers a bit. So we do these big 1747 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,920 Speaker 16: diversity initiatives. So like that's kind of what United is 1748 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 16: going for. When United does their announcement, Oh, we're going 1749 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 16: to have fifty percent of our pilots be from these groups, 1750 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 16: they're trying to say, look at us, We're trying really 1751 01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,599 Speaker 16: really hard to comply with this. Don't sue us please. 1752 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 16: Another thing we get is we get these hostile environment things. 1753 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 16: A side effect of these laws is you can be 1754 01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:01,120 Speaker 16: found liable for creating a hostile environment against people based 1755 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 16: on what you say. So, for example, if you're in 1756 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 16: a large workplace and you say, I think we should 1757 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,760 Speaker 16: hire anmerit and not have affirmative action, you can be 1758 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,519 Speaker 16: dinged for creating a hostile environment towards groups. So we 1759 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 16: have rule by the most plausibly offended people ruled by 1760 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,080 Speaker 16: the offended. That is not an American value historically, but 1761 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 16: it is kind of this invisible dictatorship we've lived under 1762 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,639 Speaker 16: for decades. And Charlie read Caldwell's book. He was very 1763 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,559 Speaker 16: aware of this, and he talked about this, and he 1764 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,400 Speaker 16: wasn't afraid of this. He wasn't afraid of topics that 1765 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 16: were awkward, and he would confront the fact that we 1766 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:41,680 Speaker 16: have sacralzed a law and basically is saying, other than constitution, 1767 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 16: we shouldn't really do that. We shouldn't treat a piece 1768 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,559 Speaker 16: of flawed legislation passed by Congress, which has become more 1769 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,519 Speaker 16: flawed thanks to judges, as sacred scripture. 1770 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,559 Speaker 8: And again Hillary Clinton, right, she goes right up there 1771 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,240 Speaker 8: on MSNBC and reiterates. 1772 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,280 Speaker 7: It, Well, this is what we're for, that's what was before, 1773 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,440 Speaker 7: and this is what we're pushing now. And to summarize 1774 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,519 Speaker 7: I think this in a succinct way, Charlie was not 1775 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:12,519 Speaker 7: against the purest motives. I think there was some impure 1776 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 7: motives behind passing the Civil Rights Act. I think there 1777 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 7: was some political calculation done by. 1778 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:21,639 Speaker 1: LBJ LBJ. 1779 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:27,280 Speaker 7: But nevertheless, the intentions, many of the intentions were good. 1780 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 7: The law had had problems and it has created more 1781 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 7: problems it created, As Charlie would say, Leviathan of the 1782 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,360 Speaker 7: administrative class and which eventually morphed into the commissars of 1783 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 7: wokeness and HR managers and DEI directors and all of 1784 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 7: these these weights that held us back as a society 1785 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 7: from being able to achieve great things. Right. This is 1786 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,679 Speaker 7: why people like Elon Musk that have achieved truly great 1787 01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,559 Speaker 7: things hate this stuff too, because they know that in 1788 01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:01,880 Speaker 7: practice of building anything, this stuff ways you down, and 1789 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,600 Speaker 7: we must not let that happen as a culture. And 1790 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:08,040 Speaker 7: Charlie was fearless about confronting these things, and I to 1791 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,439 Speaker 7: this day it's one of the most some of the 1792 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 7: most respect I have for Charlie and the stands he 1793 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 7: would take. He knew he was going into a very, 1794 01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,360 Speaker 7: very controversial topic, but that never stopped him. 1795 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna welcome back radio in just a second. 1796 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:37,679 Speaker 20: We're gonna keep going. Don't go anywhere, all right, Yeah, 1797 01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,280 Speaker 20: let's let's do Let's. 1798 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,280 Speaker 7: Do Obama welcome back radio stations across the country. We 1799 01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 7: are going through our list here. The team did a 1800 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,960 Speaker 7: great job prepping for this whole show, So Blake take 1801 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 7: us away. 1802 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 16: Alrighty, So we're continuing on this, like civil rights EI topic, 1803 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,200 Speaker 16: this is one that went viral another like total smear, 1804 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 16: total lie against Charlie was that people were just posting 1805 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,639 Speaker 16: that Charlie claimed that like black women didn't have brain power. 1806 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, uh, we have the exact pot he said. Never said, 1807 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:08,920 Speaker 7: well it's do we have the exact quote that they 1808 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:09,519 Speaker 7: were making up? 1809 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,919 Speaker 1: Well, why don't we just go with Obama? 1810 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,720 Speaker 16: I want to I want to get the uhcause, yeah, 1811 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 16: so what people were saying, Uh, let's see, we have 1812 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,040 Speaker 16: a fact check from yahoo dot com which apparently still 1813 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:26,360 Speaker 16: exists that supposedly the quote was. He said, again, this 1814 01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,640 Speaker 16: is alleged black women do not have the brain processing 1815 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,000 Speaker 16: power to be taken seriously. This was shared on to 1816 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,880 Speaker 16: ever social media. This is a lie. This is a lie. 1817 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 7: We're starting off with that. So let's go. 1818 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:39,639 Speaker 8: Uh. 1819 01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 16: First of all, let's do clip one. 1820 01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 15: We read and Michelle Obama and Shila Jackson Lee and 1821 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 15: Catangi Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks. 1822 01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:50,560 Speaker 7: We would have been called the. 1823 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,360 Speaker 15: But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us. 1824 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,800 Speaker 15: They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because 1825 01:32:58,800 --> 01:32:59,599 Speaker 15: of affirmative action. 1826 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 7: I rise today as a clear recipient. 1827 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:04,599 Speaker 21: Of affirmative action. 1828 01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,040 Speaker 7: I'm particularly in higher education. I may have been admitted 1829 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,639 Speaker 7: on affirmative action, both in terms of being a woman 1830 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 7: and a woman of color. 1831 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 15: I hear it because of action affirmative she can't even 1832 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:22,720 Speaker 15: say that we know, we know it's very obvious to 1833 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,479 Speaker 15: us that you were not smart enough to be able 1834 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 15: to get in on your own. 1835 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,000 Speaker 16: So yeah, so and though there's another thing where he 1836 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,760 Speaker 16: took like quotes and we put this on Twitter back 1837 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 16: in twenty twenty three. It's like Joy Reid, I got 1838 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 16: into Harvard because of affirmative action. Sheila Jackson Lee, I 1839 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,920 Speaker 16: rise today as a clear recipient of affirmative action. 1840 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,320 Speaker 7: Michelle Obama. 1841 01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,880 Speaker 16: I wasn't supposed to go to Princeton because my high 1842 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,200 Speaker 16: school counselor said my test scores were too low. 1843 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 7: And so Charlie come out and said, Okay, you guys are. 1844 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 16: All admitting you couldn't have gotten in if you had 1845 01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 16: a different skin color, in a different sex, if you 1846 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 16: were white men, you would not gotten in. You're saying 1847 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 16: I deserve to get in not because of my abilities, 1848 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:08,559 Speaker 16: but because of my demographic categories. Charlie opposed that because 1849 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 16: Charlie favored treating people equally. That's what he said, and 1850 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,240 Speaker 16: in this case, he was referring to these specific women. 1851 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,800 Speaker 16: These specific women came out and said themselves, I was 1852 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:23,360 Speaker 16: not good enough to get in without affirmative action. Okay, 1853 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:24,840 Speaker 16: thanks for letting us know. 1854 01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I remember with Michelle Obama specifically. I remember 1855 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:32,680 Speaker 7: we quoted Christopher Hitchins, who had some very searing commentary 1856 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,680 Speaker 7: about her college thesis. So I remember we talked about that, 1857 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,360 Speaker 7: and Charlie talked about that at the time. He said, 1858 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,320 Speaker 7: quote anyone who has read Michelle's college thesis, a document 1859 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:45,280 Speaker 7: so illiterate and incoherent that it was, that it was written, 1860 01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:53,040 Speaker 7: as Christopher Hitchins put it, in no known language. It's 1861 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,679 Speaker 7: not a great thesis. No, But the point is Charlie 1862 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,200 Speaker 7: was just saying, like, you're admitting that you couldn't get 1863 01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,360 Speaker 7: in on your own merit, now, Okay, be generous. You 1864 01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,680 Speaker 7: could say that the world was a different place when 1865 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,880 Speaker 7: they were getting in, and there might have been actual bias. 1866 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,840 Speaker 7: I don't know that that's true. I kind of don't 1867 01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,600 Speaker 7: believe it. But nevertheless, there was an there was a 1868 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,160 Speaker 7: version of American history in which, yeah, there was a 1869 01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 7: bias against you know, having a black woman at Yale 1870 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:18,760 Speaker 7: or Princeton or something like. 1871 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:23,639 Speaker 16: Nobody nobody like nobody alive, nobody who is taking today. Yes, yeah, 1872 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 16: nobody alive today has lived through a period where there 1873 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:30,000 Speaker 16: is actual, like legal or institution discrimination against But this is. 1874 01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 7: That you're getting to a deeper point. That that if 1875 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 7: you are of a certain age. No, I said, not 1876 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 7: any people, those people so, but yeah, but you're getting 1877 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,600 Speaker 7: to a deeper point, and that is that if you 1878 01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,639 Speaker 7: are of a certain age, and you could basically cut 1879 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,200 Speaker 7: the line at about fifty, Jack, I would say, if 1880 01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,840 Speaker 7: you are a black person in America over fifty, you 1881 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,080 Speaker 7: look at the Civil Rights Act is a is a 1882 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,880 Speaker 7: this you you have it, You have canonized the Civil 1883 01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:57,720 Speaker 7: Rights Act, right, you have You look at it as 1884 01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,759 Speaker 7: as a almost like a tribal marker, and it is something. 1885 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 7: This is why the devotion to the Democrat Party over 1886 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,599 Speaker 7: fifty is so it's like it's. 1887 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,639 Speaker 8: Like it's it's I wouldn't. I would say, like, you 1888 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,720 Speaker 8: look at that as the real founding of a mess. 1889 01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,679 Speaker 7: Sure, right is the promises of the Declaration of Independence 1890 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 7: finally coming to it didn't apply to you until nineteen. 1891 01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:23,720 Speaker 7: But under fifty, if you're under fifty, you are not 1892 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,080 Speaker 7: connected to that, and you're in living memory, right, you're 1893 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,439 Speaker 7: not even connected to it from a cultural standpoint, and 1894 01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,040 Speaker 7: you are less loyal or less tied to it. And 1895 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,400 Speaker 7: that's why you're starting to see black specially black men 1896 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 7: under fifty, they are breaking more and more away from 1897 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,800 Speaker 7: the Democrat Party because the results have been abysmal for 1898 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,840 Speaker 7: them and their people and their families. And so that 1899 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,439 Speaker 7: is that you're starting to see that. So, but it 1900 01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,960 Speaker 7: is sacro syncd if you are over fifty to attack 1901 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,599 Speaker 7: the Civil Rights Act, to attack it, and even even 1902 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,680 Speaker 7: Charlie would say, I'm not attacking the intention. I'm just 1903 01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,759 Speaker 7: simply saying it was a it created certain problems. 1904 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:00,719 Speaker 1: I think is a. 1905 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:04,160 Speaker 7: Fairy that's for whites over fifty two. Yeah, sure, I 1906 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 7: totally agree. I totally Actually that's a really good point. 1907 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,400 Speaker 7: I totally I totally agree. All right. 1908 01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,080 Speaker 1: And a lot of this is really weird. Ex likely 1909 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 1: had during the Obama era, right, which is that's the 1910 01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 1: whole nice because he weaponized all this, it was it 1911 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:19,559 Speaker 1: laid pretty vacant for many, many years, and the radical 1912 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,719 Speaker 1: left starting the Obama era, which is what Charlie grew 1913 01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:26,599 Speaker 1: out of during the Chicago Shadow of the Obama era 1914 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,160 Speaker 1: is where this started. That's actually the most interesting part 1915 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,519 Speaker 1: about the entire story of Charlie Kirk and the hero 1916 01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,200 Speaker 1: heroism of Charlie Kirk is that he came out of 1917 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,400 Speaker 1: the shadow of the Obama era where all of these 1918 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,600 Speaker 1: problems came from. And that's the bridge. The bridge is 1919 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,599 Speaker 1: Chicago Boy. Charlie Kirk was the only person a lot 1920 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,719 Speaker 1: of times standing up and using his platform to fight 1921 01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 1: these battles that were basically triggered during the Obama era. 1922 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,639 Speaker 7: So we need, we need all of this flows into 1923 01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,160 Speaker 7: all the final the final. 1924 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:58,520 Speaker 16: Boss is we are at the mountaintop. 1925 01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,640 Speaker 7: So this is the big controversial thing. 1926 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 16: Charlie said controversial things about Martin Luther King Junior. This 1927 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 16: was brought up by a lot of people in the 1928 01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,559 Speaker 16: wake of his demise. And you know, obviously Charlie and 1929 01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,040 Speaker 16: the Reverend King have a grim thing in common now 1930 01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,519 Speaker 16: and we should acknowledge that. And neither neither of them 1931 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,599 Speaker 16: deserved exact neither neither of them deserved it. And so 1932 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,360 Speaker 16: I want, I want to preface this with that, but 1933 01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,320 Speaker 16: we're going to continue to hear these criticisms, so we're going. 1934 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:27,080 Speaker 7: To confront them. 1935 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,120 Speaker 16: All of This kind of goes back to a segment 1936 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 16: of our show, a couple of shows we did in 1937 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:37,160 Speaker 16: early twenty twenty four, MLK Day was coming up, and 1938 01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:38,640 Speaker 16: the first thing that's kind of funny about it is 1939 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,200 Speaker 16: it's like an accident. All it was was at the 1940 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,599 Speaker 16: end of one of our days shows, Charlie basically teased, 1941 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,360 Speaker 16: He's like, I'm going to have you know, blake right 1942 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,519 Speaker 16: up a little short thing on you know, Martin Luther 1943 01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,080 Speaker 16: King because it's not he's not everything you've heard said 1944 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 16: about him, and we're going. 1945 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:53,240 Speaker 15: To do it. 1946 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,840 Speaker 7: So and it got noticed one step back because he 1947 01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,479 Speaker 7: said something at Amfest. He got asked a question about 1948 01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,439 Speaker 7: MLKA at a infest, which would have been like December 1949 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,920 Speaker 7: twenty twenty three, and he said, I think I think 1950 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,080 Speaker 7: he he He tried to add nuance later to it, 1951 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,479 Speaker 7: but he just said he's not a good guy. And 1952 01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,679 Speaker 7: so then a reporter called me and said, we heard 1953 01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,400 Speaker 7: some rumor that you guys are going to be doing 1954 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:17,320 Speaker 7: an MLKA show. 1955 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:18,240 Speaker 1: Not true. 1956 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,040 Speaker 7: I don't know where this reporter got it, but then 1957 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,400 Speaker 7: I I forwarded it was. 1958 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,600 Speaker 16: That wired it might have been, and we have it. 1959 01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,639 Speaker 16: We have him react to this. Let's go clip one 1960 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,240 Speaker 16: eighty eight. It was literally just you said, you know 1961 01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,200 Speaker 16: MLKA days coming up, and you know we were going 1962 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:33,840 Speaker 16: to do a show that day. So he's just like, 1963 01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,320 Speaker 16: you know, there's a lot of stuff people don't know 1964 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,840 Speaker 16: about MLK. I'll have Blake go look something up. And 1965 01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,519 Speaker 16: then someone that wired I guess saw it. 1966 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,920 Speaker 7: And they usually cover like bit Blake, Blake, that's the 1967 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,559 Speaker 7: that's the bad guy you have on your staff. 1968 01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,760 Speaker 16: And then they send us that irate email and it's like, well, 1969 01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,439 Speaker 16: we can't back down now, now we gotta go. 1970 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it really got to blow it up. 1971 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,120 Speaker 15: And I'm the way I'm wired is that the more 1972 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,840 Speaker 15: opposition I get from I kind of then want to 1973 01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:01,160 Speaker 15: lean in. And it was so how dare you? Or 1974 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,840 Speaker 15: we're going to punish you or we're going to hurt you. 1975 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,080 Speaker 15: It was very almost quasi threatening in the way that 1976 01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:09,000 Speaker 15: they were communicating. 1977 01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,479 Speaker 16: Yeah, and it gets it exactly what you said at 1978 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,200 Speaker 16: the top of the hour that he is the most 1979 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,840 Speaker 16: sacred figure of the twentieth century. And that was the 1980 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,880 Speaker 16: context we gave to it, which was there was a 1981 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,719 Speaker 16: poll at that time, you know, approval rating of different figures, 1982 01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,880 Speaker 16: and MLK was the highest ninety six percent approval, higher 1983 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,200 Speaker 16: than Jesus of Nazareth. 1984 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,720 Speaker 7: So yeah, okay, so that were popular than Jesus. So 1985 01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,080 Speaker 7: the fact that the Civil Rights Act was more revered 1986 01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,479 Speaker 7: than the Constitution, the fact that the Juneteenth was more 1987 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 7: revered than July fourth by some, not not really, I 1988 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,320 Speaker 7: don't think that's quite as true, but by some, or 1989 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,559 Speaker 7: at least it was competing with life. Is like that's 1990 01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,280 Speaker 7: when the fact that MLK was more revered than Jesus Christ, 1991 01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,280 Speaker 7: these things fundamentally ate at his cry, and he wanted 1992 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 7: to like confront them. 1993 01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:57,240 Speaker 16: Yeah, it was like MLK is basically America's national saint figure. 1994 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,719 Speaker 16: There is I think some theological assembly of mainline Protestants 1995 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 16: proposed that his words be considered divinely inspired, like script. 1996 01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 1: There's there's a. 1997 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,880 Speaker 16: Lot of over the top stuff, and so that's what 1998 01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,880 Speaker 16: he wanted to confront. It wasn't even it wasn't MLK 1999 01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:14,880 Speaker 16: is bad. MLK is flawed. 2000 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,040 Speaker 7: Let me tell you what Charlie said to me in private, 2001 01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,679 Speaker 7: and he might have said this publicly too, but Charlie said, listen, 2002 01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,120 Speaker 7: I think the country had gotten to a point where 2003 01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:28,120 Speaker 7: somebody like MLK was needed, And I am happy to 2004 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,920 Speaker 7: acknowledge that that needed to be MLK. And he did 2005 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,960 Speaker 7: some good things, he said some good things. He also 2006 01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:36,240 Speaker 7: got more radical towards his death, he got he got 2007 01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,840 Speaker 7: more connected with communists, and you know, there was a 2008 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 7: financing network that was propping him up. And he also 2009 01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,840 Speaker 7: you know, for being a reverend. You know, this is 2010 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,320 Speaker 7: just the truth, right, that he had a lot of 2011 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 7: mistresses and was you know, I'll never forget I was 2012 01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 7: with Charlie. Well he was when he said Charlie's bad. 2013 01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:59,639 Speaker 7: He said, Charlie said he's a bad person. He's talking 2014 01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,759 Speaker 7: about he's not any good. He cheated on his wife 2015 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 7: all the time. 2016 01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,880 Speaker 8: Now he was talking about he's like he had a 2017 01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,160 Speaker 8: different woman, and that he was not Christian. 2018 01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,880 Speaker 7: He had a different woman in basically every town that 2019 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,439 Speaker 7: he would call. And the FBI track this, which you know, 2020 01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:13,599 Speaker 7: we can get into his rights. 2021 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,519 Speaker 16: That's what the FBI infamously wrote him a letter kind 2022 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,320 Speaker 16: of suggesting he should write. 2023 01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I listen, I'm not I'm not saying that MLK 2024 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:25,120 Speaker 7: didn't do some really important or at least contribute to 2025 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:29,200 Speaker 7: some really important changes and good things. And his peaceful 2026 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:34,839 Speaker 7: protests were were largely uh, you know, really important and 2027 01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:36,720 Speaker 7: and and good. It could have it could have been 2028 01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,880 Speaker 7: led by somebody who didn't believe in peace peaceful protests. 2029 01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 7: It's true also that they intentionally would go certain police 2030 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,400 Speaker 7: departments and things like that. There's it's a lot of 2031 01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:49,519 Speaker 7: nuances all I'm saying. But Charlie privately said we probably 2032 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,760 Speaker 7: needed him in that in that time. But to to 2033 01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,479 Speaker 7: completely sanctify and not deal with the truth, the whole 2034 01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,880 Speaker 7: truth of who Martin Luther King was and what he 2035 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,959 Speaker 7: actually did and some of his flaws would be unfair 2036 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:08,640 Speaker 7: to America. And to treat a lie and to canonize 2037 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,680 Speaker 7: a lie can be problematic. Right. So every country has 2038 01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 7: its myths, it's founding myths, and if we're talking about 2039 01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,920 Speaker 7: the second founding of America, you have to be careful 2040 01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:21,840 Speaker 7: about the myths that you put forward. And Charlie man, 2041 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,760 Speaker 7: I remember he that was where he said, like, you know, 2042 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,479 Speaker 7: this is this is a golden calf you are not 2043 01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:31,360 Speaker 7: allowed to go after. And the way Charlie was wired 2044 01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,200 Speaker 7: is he he wanted to go in on it and 2045 01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,719 Speaker 7: really expose it. Would you agree, Boke. 2046 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,479 Speaker 16: Uh, Yeah, we have a couple more clopwaff to play. 2047 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,599 Speaker 16: But looks like, yeah, now we have to probably wait 2048 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:42,400 Speaker 16: past the bump. 2049 01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:44,760 Speaker 7: Oh, we do have this good cook. What are the 2050 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:45,400 Speaker 7: good things in him? 2051 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 1: But it's forty seven seconds long. 2052 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, exactly, No, I'm just looking. Uh yeah, so 2053 01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,479 Speaker 7: we'll play both of those. We'll just wait past the bump. 2054 01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,920 Speaker 16: But no, it's just it's very much like Charlie cared 2055 01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,720 Speaker 16: a lot about the truth, so he wasn't going to 2056 01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:00,080 Speaker 16: like sacrilze somebody if he knew something about it. 2057 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,519 Speaker 7: It was more complex than that. Well, I'll say this. 2058 01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,320 Speaker 7: I was with Charlie and a black pastor and we 2059 01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,200 Speaker 7: talked about this issue, and the black paster was saying, 2060 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna help you, but you gotta understand. 2061 01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,560 Speaker 7: And he's like, well, is am I wrong about the philandering? 2062 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:15,080 Speaker 7: He's like, oh, well, m okay, he did. He did 2063 01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:16,640 Speaker 7: like that, and he did a lot of that and 2064 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:17,800 Speaker 7: we know it, but we just don't like to talk 2065 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 7: about it. 2066 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we'll be. 2067 01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:30,599 Speaker 7: Right back, all right. 2068 01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,720 Speaker 16: So we have a pair of clips here that I 2069 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,640 Speaker 16: think is good to push together. And one of the 2070 01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,479 Speaker 16: first things. So what happened is since that wired guy called, 2071 01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,519 Speaker 16: we kind of did two hours on him The first 2072 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,719 Speaker 16: thing we did we talked with a I can't remember 2073 01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,200 Speaker 16: who it was and it's been ever. Yeah, So we 2074 01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:47,680 Speaker 16: talked to him for about an hour and then he 2075 01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,840 Speaker 16: basically had meon is like, all right, Blake, tell us 2076 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:51,160 Speaker 16: what you have. 2077 01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:52,280 Speaker 7: But I think it's note worry. 2078 01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,960 Speaker 16: One of the first things he asked layout, what are 2079 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,000 Speaker 16: the unimpeachably good things about Mlk's life before we criticize him, 2080 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 16: Let's remind why he became so revered. And he asked 2081 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:02,920 Speaker 16: me that let's play one to eighty nine. 2082 01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,080 Speaker 15: What are the good things in Mlk's life. 2083 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,479 Speaker 16: Obviously, Jim Crow, as it existed in the South still 2084 01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:13,240 Speaker 16: in the fifties and early sixties, in terms of restrictions 2085 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:18,400 Speaker 16: on voting, segregated buses, segregated public spaces, that was all bad, 2086 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 16: that was all evil, and it was good that MLK 2087 01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,400 Speaker 16: campaigned against it. MLK himself was a nonviolent person who 2088 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,479 Speaker 16: always promoted non violence. 2089 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,200 Speaker 7: He rejected, he enraged a lot of. 2090 01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:33,000 Speaker 16: People on his own side who wanted to be more 2091 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 16: like violent revolutionary. 2092 01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:35,639 Speaker 7: So with the eye have a dream speech. 2093 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,880 Speaker 15: That's good, but he also he didn't right, but which 2094 01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,439 Speaker 15: for sure, let's say he delivered it and he gives. 2095 01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:46,160 Speaker 16: Other speeches as well that are looking towards a color 2096 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:49,240 Speaker 16: blind world. He does in his Poor People's campaign, which 2097 01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,800 Speaker 16: is his last big campaign before his assassination. 2098 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, it goes on a. 2099 01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,720 Speaker 16: Bit there that he in the Poor People's campaign, he's 2100 01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:01,080 Speaker 16: saying he cares about He explicitly says white poor people 2101 01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,040 Speaker 16: are victims as well as black poor people. I'm not 2102 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,439 Speaker 16: going to just racialize it. And I also love to 2103 01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,720 Speaker 16: point out his speech at the when Rosa Parks gets 2104 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,799 Speaker 16: arrested the Montgomery bus boycott. That's, in my opinion, actually 2105 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 16: his best speech where he just teas up where he's 2106 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,639 Speaker 16: just like, you know, if what we're doing here is wrong, 2107 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,880 Speaker 16: then the constitution is of the United States is wrong. 2108 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,720 Speaker 16: If what we are doing is wrong, Jesus of Nazareth 2109 01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 16: was just a utopian dreamer who's life. He's irrelevant if 2110 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 16: we are wrong, God Almighty. 2111 01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,160 Speaker 8: And his most famous speech, of course, his most famous 2112 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,160 Speaker 8: line is about judging people by the content of their 2113 01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,840 Speaker 8: character and not by their race. And I think that's 2114 01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:41,439 Speaker 8: something that everyone agrees with and part of the issues 2115 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:46,760 Speaker 8: everybody but everyone here, Yeah, everyone that we agree with 2116 01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,760 Speaker 8: is that to your point, as I was going to 2117 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,880 Speaker 8: say these policies that we've been critiquing fall short of 2118 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,920 Speaker 8: that standard thousand fall short of that. 2119 01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:56,840 Speaker 7: And that's what gets. 2120 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,920 Speaker 8: You to the point where there's an entire industry built 2121 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:05,400 Speaker 8: around DEI that that exists to uphold those false standards. 2122 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,880 Speaker 8: And so if the standard is going to be which 2123 01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,160 Speaker 8: we can all agree on, right, we're gonna agree on. 2124 01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,759 Speaker 7: This colorblind society judge people by the content of their character. 2125 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:17,400 Speaker 8: Okay, that means one standard for everyone in everything. 2126 01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,559 Speaker 7: You know. It's crazy too, is that you know two thoughts. 2127 01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,400 Speaker 7: Not everybody likes that quote from m OK because conservatives 2128 01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,800 Speaker 7: grab it and they think it's they think it's like 2129 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 7: a whitewashing or a because he was very radically progressive 2130 01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:37,200 Speaker 7: towards his death. MKA was, yeah, we have well and 2131 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:38,959 Speaker 7: he and they don't. 2132 01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,000 Speaker 1: Like us, you said, say something nice, Oh, I know, 2133 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:41,320 Speaker 1: but they. 2134 01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,360 Speaker 7: Don't like us cherry picking that clip because they're like, 2135 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,519 Speaker 7: he was way more progressive than that. I know he was, 2136 01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,679 Speaker 7: and so so people some people don't agree and they 2137 01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:51,080 Speaker 7: hate that we latch onto that clip. And then you know, 2138 01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,920 Speaker 7: it's also fascinating, is so Martin Luther King has what 2139 01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,800 Speaker 7: like a ninety ninety six percent of proval. Ready at 2140 01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,400 Speaker 7: the time of his death, he seventy five five percent 2141 01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,479 Speaker 7: of the public disapproved of MLK. 2142 01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,439 Speaker 1: That's correct, seventy percent. 2143 01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:08,160 Speaker 7: I just googled it right here. So it's just fascinating 2144 01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 7: too how how those things move and change over time. 2145 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 7: But one of the reasons it's become that way is 2146 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:16,920 Speaker 7: that they sealed the records on his death. His family 2147 01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:21,160 Speaker 7: locked down that estate and he you know, we weren't 2148 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,880 Speaker 7: able to discover some of the not so good stuff, 2149 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:29,400 Speaker 7: right And again, I grew up, you know, believing MLK was, 2150 01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,599 Speaker 7: you know, one of our American saints. I really do, yeah, totally, 2151 01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:38,800 Speaker 7: and I still feel a genuine gratitude for, like you said, 2152 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:41,479 Speaker 7: Jim Crow and fighting some of this stuff towards him. 2153 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,040 Speaker 1: But I also love knowing all the truth. 2154 01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,720 Speaker 7: I love I love knowing that he had issues, that 2155 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,760 Speaker 7: he was a flawed man, that he wasn't some you know, 2156 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:51,280 Speaker 7: second coming of Jesus. That's important. That's important to know. So, Okay, 2157 01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 7: we are going to go into our final radio segment 2158 01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:56,960 Speaker 7: of the show, so don't go anywhere. 2159 01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:57,880 Speaker 1: We'll finish up. 2160 01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:04,599 Speaker 7: Dan Yankees. 2161 01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,000 Speaker 16: So I guess since we're wrapping up the MLK thing. 2162 01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:10,840 Speaker 16: We should probably get the actual As we mentioned, he 2163 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,519 Speaker 16: was getting more radical near the end of his life. 2164 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,599 Speaker 16: Why would he have such a high disapproval rating before 2165 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 16: he died? 2166 01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:21,040 Speaker 7: I get into that. Let's play clip one ninety the. 2167 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,439 Speaker 16: Detroit riots in I believe summer of sixty seven, forty 2168 01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,600 Speaker 16: three people die in that. That's more than died in 2169 01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,600 Speaker 16: any of these, you know, in actual rioting stuff, as 2170 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:33,120 Speaker 16: opposed to just murders because it was mayhem and such, 2171 01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:34,360 Speaker 16: dozens of people die there. 2172 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,160 Speaker 7: Dozens of people die in Newark. 2173 01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:40,360 Speaker 16: You have thousands of buildings getting burned down all over 2174 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,400 Speaker 16: the country, and his reaction to it is sort of 2175 01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:47,000 Speaker 16: It's interesting. A few months before is when he delivers 2176 01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,040 Speaker 16: the line a riot is the language of the unheard, 2177 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,320 Speaker 16: which we heard over and over again in twenty twenty 2178 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,559 Speaker 16: when the Newark riots happened. It goes for like a week. 2179 01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,400 Speaker 16: It goes for about a week, and his advisor, the 2180 01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:00,439 Speaker 16: communist guy who was with the Communist Party USA, he's king, 2181 01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,720 Speaker 16: you've got to say something to condemn this, and King 2182 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,280 Speaker 16: says he doesn't want to do it, because he says, 2183 01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:14,000 Speaker 16: I don't want to deliver a condemnation without also condemning 2184 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,800 Speaker 16: the causes that lead to riot. 2185 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 15: That sounds like blm. 2186 01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:23,360 Speaker 16: Oh yeah, And he even quotes in a speech. He 2187 01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,800 Speaker 16: quotes Alexander Duma. I think that it's like with their 2188 01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 16: acts of darkness, like we have to blame who created 2189 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 16: the darkness. And so he says, there's all these crimes, 2190 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,720 Speaker 16: but the greater crime is that created like by the 2191 01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:37,559 Speaker 16: white society. He says, the white society created it. And 2192 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,080 Speaker 16: that's a whole speech. 2193 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,040 Speaker 7: Final line from Charlie in that clip, I don't know 2194 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:44,519 Speaker 7: why I gave me the chills. He's like, that sounds 2195 01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 7: like blm, because it does. And you know, I'm reminded 2196 01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,320 Speaker 7: like AOC saying this during Florida Palooza and all the 2197 01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:56,559 Speaker 7: stuff that that you know, rioting is the is the 2198 01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,920 Speaker 7: cry of an oppressed people, right And and I would, 2199 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,639 Speaker 7: by the way, that is so relevant to what we've 2200 01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,800 Speaker 7: seen after what happened to Charlie, because we didn't riot, 2201 01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:09,760 Speaker 7: we didn't we didn't we didn't burn. 2202 01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:12,120 Speaker 1: Although Charlie was certainly oppressed. 2203 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,360 Speaker 7: He was and he was the voice of a group 2204 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 7: that has been increasingly villainized, and you know it's he 2205 01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,679 Speaker 7: really was their champion in all of our champion, and 2206 01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:25,880 Speaker 7: so that's you know, but he was everybody's champing. He 2207 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,719 Speaker 7: believed in freedom for all people. He believed in freedom 2208 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:33,240 Speaker 7: for every race, every every American. And he wanted a 2209 01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:37,200 Speaker 7: restoration of the founding ideals because he saw very clearly 2210 01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:43,640 Speaker 7: that the racializing and the grievance politics led to massive division, strife, sectarianism, 2211 01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,559 Speaker 7: and he hated it. He didn't want a Juneteenth. He 2212 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,559 Speaker 7: wanted everybody to love July fourth. 2213 01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:48,840 Speaker 16: Well. 2214 01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,519 Speaker 1: The heart of Charlie Kirk from the very beginning, since 2215 01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,320 Speaker 1: the day I met Charlie, who was again extraordinarily young man, 2216 01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:58,800 Speaker 1: the bondage of bad policy was always at the core 2217 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,559 Speaker 1: of Charlie's message, which was that and that was from 2218 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,519 Speaker 1: the very beginning when we talked about, you know, very 2219 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,920 Speaker 1: often the government spying on you and being in the 2220 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:10,200 Speaker 1: middle of your business and all the way to you know, 2221 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:13,600 Speaker 1: these very intricate topics of like we're talking about the 2222 01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:17,120 Speaker 1: Civil Rights Act and what the repercussions of it all were. 2223 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:21,960 Speaker 1: There is there is a a tying of hands that 2224 01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:26,200 Speaker 1: happens to the American populace, particularly when bad people take 2225 01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,840 Speaker 1: advantage of it. And Charlie talked about that from day 2226 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,599 Speaker 1: one to his last dying breath on this on this earth. 2227 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,679 Speaker 1: And that's what you have to respect about Charlie Kirk 2228 01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:36,360 Speaker 1: is that he was always consistent. 2229 01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:43,360 Speaker 7: Well, folks, if we missed anything in this episode, please 2230 01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,360 Speaker 7: send us your emails at freedom at Charliekirk dot com, 2231 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,479 Speaker 7: Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. You know, I realized that. 2232 01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,719 Speaker 1: We're going to be continuing tonight on Thought Crime. 2233 01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:54,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure. Are we sure we want to. 2234 01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:56,040 Speaker 1: Go for that? We're going to go for that, all right? 2235 01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 7: All right. 2236 01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,320 Speaker 1: We have a lot of topics that people are messaging 2237 01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,960 Speaker 1: to me about and going and what are you going 2238 01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,840 Speaker 1: to get into the other things? And that's going to 2239 01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:05,240 Speaker 1: be tonight live on Thought Yes. 2240 01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,479 Speaker 16: Uh, you know, before we go out, I just want 2241 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,280 Speaker 16: to kind of close by reminding people, you know, the 2242 01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:13,360 Speaker 16: stuff that gets passed around in the end what some 2243 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,559 Speaker 16: people are just getting bamboozled. But a lot of people 2244 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,559 Speaker 16: are taking this. They know they're taking it out of context, 2245 01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:23,280 Speaker 16: they know they're misinterpreting that they are deliberately avoiding would 2246 01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,200 Speaker 16: not be telling the truth about and they're doing this. 2247 01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:30,559 Speaker 16: They're doing this because they want an excuse. They want 2248 01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:32,760 Speaker 16: an excuse to do what they already want to do, 2249 01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,400 Speaker 16: which is to justify what happened to Charlie or to 2250 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,479 Speaker 16: celebrate what happened to Charlie. And so as soon as 2251 01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,280 Speaker 16: it happened, instead of being horrified, their thought was, I 2252 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,640 Speaker 16: need to go immediately find a reason and why I 2253 01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,439 Speaker 16: can celebrate it's a good thing. 2254 01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:49,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, and undermine his legacy. And that's not going to happen. 2255 01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,439 Speaker 7: And we're not going to let it because the truth 2256 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,920 Speaker 7: will set you free. And guess what the truth is. 2257 01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,240 Speaker 7: The truth the truth is is that Charlie was one 2258 01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,360 Speaker 7: of the greatest men I've ever known, if not the greatest. 2259 01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:07,160 Speaker 7: He was fundamentally good, decent, true, loyal, generous, and kind 2260 01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:10,280 Speaker 7: and he was kind to everybody he ever interacted with. 2261 01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,120 Speaker 7: And that's just the fact, unless you came at him 2262 01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,479 Speaker 7: in bad faith. He was kind and patient with you 2263 01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:19,559 Speaker 7: in debates even And so that's the truth. He was 2264 01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,559 Speaker 7: a good Christian man who loved his wife and loved 2265 01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 7: his kids and set a very high bar of behavior 2266 01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,880 Speaker 7: and standards for the rest of us. And these are lies. 2267 01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,519 Speaker 7: And I hope this was edifying for you all. It 2268 01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,600 Speaker 7: was certainly fun for me. Thanks guys for joining me. 2269 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,200 Speaker 7: We will see you tomorrow, where Erica Kirk will join 2270 01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 7: us on the show