WEBVTT - Braves Bounce Back with Big Win over White Sox

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome on it all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Sean Coleman. Hope. Wherever you are and wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you are listening, Hey, you know what, you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>better day today than you did earlier this week if

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<v Speaker 1>like all of us here at Hammer Territory, the outcome

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<v Speaker 1>of Braves ball games has a big impact on your day.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, it's a positive, positive cast edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Hammer Territory after a big win over the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago White Sox and is always with me best podcast

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<v Speaker 1>partner in the world, my friend in yours one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best when it comes to breaking down the Braves.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Tolbert, Stephen, how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, buddy? Yeah, it's it's been a rough stretch

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<v Speaker 2>and we needed a win. And was it the prettiest win.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>The offense still, you know, left a lot to be desired,

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<v Speaker 2>but the pitching staff really stepped up. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the game that was played today in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we're gonna talk about some of the main

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<v Speaker 2>players of the game, some of the reasons they won,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we're gonna break down the Milwaukee series that's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. But yeah, it was just good to get

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<v Speaker 2>a win. And I don't really I didn't really care

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<v Speaker 2>how it came. I don't care how it looked, how

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<v Speaker 2>real or fake. It was just get a w. And

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<v Speaker 2>they got a w today. So there's this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a more positive show?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? And what this And I think that with all

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<v Speaker 1>the negativity that's been around the Braves, you know, over

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<v Speaker 1>the past couple of weeks, you know, I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to August seventh, when they started this, you know, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tough stretch of the schedule, playing against clear playoff teams

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<v Speaker 1>or playoff contenders, and the Mets, who they struggled with.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the offense has has been you know, pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>The bullpen has been among you know, I won't say

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<v Speaker 1>the worst in baseball, but it's been you know, below

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<v Speaker 1>average as well. But the negativity probably has taken away

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<v Speaker 1>a bit from you know, the consistent see of the

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<v Speaker 1>starting staff. Now, I think that there's some luck involved

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<v Speaker 1>in that, you know, as I'll let you get into

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<v Speaker 1>with Grant Holmes. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>the results have been consistent. The starting staff has consistently

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<v Speaker 1>given this chance, at least a team a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>win nine times out of ten over the past few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing their job, and Grant Holmes do one of

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<v Speaker 1>the better jobs he's done all year. Six innings, allowed

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<v Speaker 1>only one hit. This team overall gave it allowed a

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<v Speaker 1>one hitter, which is something that the Braves you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do every day. So that was certainly a positive note.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's two truths to Grant Holmes performance. He did

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<v Speaker 1>very well. He did his job. It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>his better starts of the year. But still there was

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<v Speaker 1>probably more fortune involved on his end than dominance, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's worth noting as well, not to take

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<v Speaker 1>away from how big and clutch his performance was, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it also needs to be pointed out.

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<v Speaker 1>As good as he's been, there's still still clear signs that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, in time, a bullpen move may make

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<v Speaker 1>the most since for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it really is kind of one of

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<v Speaker 2>those things where two truths can exist at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Grant had really good results today. Six innings, no runs,

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<v Speaker 2>one hit, he got into he pitched into the seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't get an out in the seventh, but he

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<v Speaker 2>pitched into the seventh, and that is objectively a good outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>For any pitcher. Now, if you look, if you actually

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<v Speaker 2>like pour down into the performance, there were certainly aspects

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<v Speaker 2>where there was nobody who was watching who was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a dominating outing from Grant Holmes. He had

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<v Speaker 2>I think two strikeouts on the day and versus three walks,

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<v Speaker 2>which is certainly not the ratio you want. It's giving

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<v Speaker 2>up a lot of hard contact that you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just one of those days where the babep gods

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<v Speaker 2>were just smiling down on you. And that happens, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That happens throughout the year some guys, that'll happen for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a large chunk of the year where just

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, even if there's line drives, even if

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<v Speaker 2>there's one hundred mine hour batted balls or ninety mini

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<v Speaker 2>hour batted balls, like the bab of gods just smile

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<v Speaker 2>upon you. And I think that's how it describe Grant's

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<v Speaker 2>performance today. On a different day, that exact same performance

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<v Speaker 2>very easily could have yielded five or six runs. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't I'm not gonna freak out over it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like going to drastically change my opinion of

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<v Speaker 2>Grant Holmes, who I still think is better used as

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<v Speaker 2>a reliever. But the Braves needed it today. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it was a little bit fluky, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>take the win away from you. It doesn't count any

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<v Speaker 2>less because it maybe not the most real thing we've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. The wind still counts and the way the

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<v Speaker 2>offense has still been struggling. Those zeros that he was

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<v Speaker 2>putting up, and we're gonna talk about the bullpen a

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<v Speaker 2>little later in the show. The bullpen I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>the real story of the of the day, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about them in the second segment. The zeros that

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<v Speaker 2>he kept putting up up they needed every one of

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<v Speaker 2>them because the offense certainly had no point, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>took the game over. So man, did they need it.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed a performance. It was such a weird schedule.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing with the day game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a city you have to fly into, play

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<v Speaker 2>one day game and then you're you're out again. Very unusual,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a it was a massive time to

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<v Speaker 2>pitch a shutout. So credit to Grant Holmes, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is the most real thing in the world now. But

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<v Speaker 2>still all the credits are the same because they needed

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<v Speaker 2>that win today.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're at the point of the season, Stephen, where

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<v Speaker 1>when you see these performances you talk about like what

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<v Speaker 1>do they mean for right now? And for me, what

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<v Speaker 1>it means is is that listen, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>give Grant Holmes another start and you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>with the six man rotation, okay, the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I asked is that you managed the pitching staff to

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<v Speaker 1>where Chris Sale pitches on Friday Night the first game

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<v Speaker 1>of the Brewers series, and he pitches the last game

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dodgers series. If you want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fiddle with the starting rotation beyond that, that's fine. The

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<v Speaker 1>bigger thing to me though, for Grant Holmes, whether he's

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<v Speaker 1>a starter or whether he's a reliever, is that he

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<v Speaker 1>continues to answer a bigger question and a more important

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<v Speaker 1>question for me, how many braves arms can you realistically

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<v Speaker 1>rely upon to get through an opposing playoff level lineup

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<v Speaker 1>at least one time through in a playoff game. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Grant Holmes has answered that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that he can do that. I think that him, aj Smith, Schhauber,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Malley and Chris Selle are definitely the four that

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<v Speaker 1>you can trust in. And when you get to that

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<v Speaker 1>four plus area, that amount of arms that you can

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<v Speaker 1>trust to go through a full playoff lineup at least

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<v Speaker 1>once you're in a pretty decent position. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>nice trade off for not having a clear number two starter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you could take that away from Grant

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes's recent performances.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if the playoffs started today, and we

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<v Speaker 2>really try not to do this every show, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know this is something people are doing every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>They litigate this thing every day depending on how the

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<v Speaker 2>game goes. So like, if I was running things and

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs started today, I would definitely have Christal pitching

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<v Speaker 2>game one. Obviously, Game two, I would have Tyler Mallley

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<v Speaker 2>because ever since he's come over, he's done nothing but impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Braves have made a few tweaks and

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<v Speaker 2>he's just been fantastic. I think he's the clearest second

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<v Speaker 2>best starter on the team. And then for the third game,

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<v Speaker 2>I would do a piggyback slash bullpen where in some

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<v Speaker 2>order Grant Holmes is going through the order one time,

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<v Speaker 2>a J. Smith Schaber's going through the order a second time,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Didier flintees Dylan Lee and Rosciollglesias are going

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<v Speaker 2>through the order the last time, and you know Dylan,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Sprinkling Dylan Dodd and you know whoever else

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<v Speaker 2>you want you to actually get all the outs. But

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<v Speaker 2>based on the personnel they have right now, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I would do. Now that could change. I still want

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<v Speaker 2>to see more from a J. Smith Schover. What we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen from AJ is that he's he's kind of running

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<v Speaker 2>into a wall around the fifth inning and most of

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<v Speaker 2>his starts, which is fun. You don't need AJ to

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<v Speaker 2>go five in a playoff game. You really just need

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<v Speaker 2>one time through the order, which is what you would

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<v Speaker 2>need from a Grand Holmes. So you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I would do right now. I know, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Perez people are gonna come out and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what about Martin Perez. I don't I said, don't trust it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't trust in a playoff game. Grant Holmes, at

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<v Speaker 2>least the first time through the order has like really

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<v Speaker 2>solid peripherals to go along with the era, right whereas

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<v Speaker 2>Perez is mostly just era stuff that's just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hiding all the negative stuff. So that's what I would

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<v Speaker 2>do right now. Obviously we got a long way to go,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was a big start from from Grant Homes

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<v Speaker 2>today and you know they God, did they need to win.

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<v Speaker 2>It was getting you know, the Phillies don't don't lose anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was getting. It was getting tight.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that stood out from an offense perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, the offense as a whole has certainly struggled,

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<v Speaker 1>but one shining light that we've all been kind of

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on that is starting to burn bright sound a

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<v Speaker 1>better than I thought it would. The point I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>at is is that we're not to the point to

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<v Speaker 1>where I think you can confidently say, oh, Austin Riley

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<v Speaker 1>is back. I'm not going to say that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that we are to the point now to where, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Riley, there's there's adjustments that have been made. We've

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming up on about a month. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first part of this month stretch. He was striking

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<v Speaker 1>out quite a bit, but man, his contact levels have

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<v Speaker 1>been extremely, extremely positive basically the whole second half, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you're starting to see him really deliver in big moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean today he had both RBIs, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a game that was just you know, a two nothing game.

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<v Speaker 1>And it especially stands out when we'll talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>a bit in the second segment. Riley is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>come on as some of the other first tier second

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<v Speaker 1>tier Braves offensive weapons are struggling a bit, So the

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<v Speaker 1>timing of him becoming more reliable is great. And again

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<v Speaker 1>from a playoff perspective, the deeper this Braves lineup is

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<v Speaker 1>the better off it's going to be. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Riley can deliver in the clutch on any stage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just really good to see him putting together at

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<v Speaker 1>bats no matter the situation, to where you can rely

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<v Speaker 1>on him to get the job done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a really weird profile right now because there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many strikeouts. Like I think he's running like a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six percent strikeout rate in August, which is crazy high.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is hitting the ball so unbelievably hard when

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<v Speaker 2>he makes contact. His average exit velocity in August is

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<v Speaker 2>ninety six miles an hour, which is just insane. That

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<v Speaker 2>is that's an insane number.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and today, I mean he won them the game today.

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<v Speaker 2>He had you know, Maricio Debon started off the third

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<v Speaker 2>inning and I'll be honest, I was running around today.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to like put my eyes on the

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<v Speaker 2>game today. I was falling along via game day in stadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But Riches de Bond let off the third with a

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<v Speaker 2>single up the middle, and then Austin wrote that double

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<v Speaker 2>down the line and ratio scored and that was the

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<v Speaker 2>only run in the game for a long time. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he came up again. I think he singled up

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<v Speaker 2>the middle the second time or the third his third

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<v Speaker 2>at bat. He had two strikeouts in between, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, again, that's kind of what he's been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's either swinging and missing or he's hitting the

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<v Speaker 2>absolute piss out of the ball. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's a really weird profile right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But the bottom line is since July thirty first, Austin's

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<v Speaker 2>got a one twenty five WRC plus. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>might be a one twenty eight if you factor in

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<v Speaker 2>today's stuff. So that's like very good. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of what I expect out of Austin rally,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think of Austin in terms of true talent

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<v Speaker 2>level when he's going well, is like a one twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five WRC plus. Guy I put Acunya in Olsen in

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<v Speaker 2>like the one forty range, I put Baldwin in like

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<v Speaker 2>the onenge, I put Austin like the one twenty five rates.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the last month, you know, not quite a month,

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<v Speaker 2>probably like three weeks, that's what he's been so and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really care about the strikeouts as long as

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<v Speaker 2>you're producing. I think strikeouts are one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>that are a little over talked about. It usually means

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<v Speaker 2>you're swinging pretty hard, and it usually means you're working

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<v Speaker 2>pretty deep in the accounts. And both those things are

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<v Speaker 2>actually positive. So you know, we'll see, we'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>it goes. I'm not there, I agree with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not like ulcernized back. We're not there yet. There's still

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of red flags in the profile. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was fantastic, was huge today, and he's been really big

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<v Speaker 2>in August. I think he's been their second best there

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<v Speaker 2>in August, behind Olsen. So tried it to him. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the Braves, my god, did they need it. And

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<v Speaker 2>with the way the rest of the lineup is going,

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<v Speaker 2>it was matt massive, massive production today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it got the job done. The Braves bounce back

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<v Speaker 1>in a big way. Thanks to Austin Riley. But the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the offense, especially the stars that they're now

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<v Speaker 1>is the time for them to do the same because

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<v Speaker 1>at fastenal dot com for more information. So, Stephen, some

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<v Speaker 1>good to talk about today, but still a bit of bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's necessary to talk about this because this aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the team has absolutely got to do a one

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<v Speaker 1>to eighty overnight for them to really be set up

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<v Speaker 1>to have success, you know, over the next week. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is the top of the order. The Brave Star

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<v Speaker 1>is getting back to being stars, and in particular we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about ronald' coooney Junior and Drake Baldwin. The simple

0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.520
<v Speaker 1>truth is this you and when I talk about tiers

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of the Braves offense, the first tier is clearly ronald'coone Junior,

0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Drake Baldwin and Metals. And there's a reason why those

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<v Speaker 1>three guys in whatever order are batting in the top

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<v Speaker 1>three of the Braves lineup. But right now Ronald cooony

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<v Speaker 1>U and Drake Baldwin are not living up to you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, you know, expected level of production. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily concerned, Like I still am very confident that

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<v Speaker 1>literally overnight they can change back to be in them

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<v Speaker 1>normal sales. But the thing that is concerning to me

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<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, over the years with Acunya and

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<v Speaker 1>in the short time that we know Baldwin, even if

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<v Speaker 1>they're batted ball, production has been a bit of a struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>Their ability to get on base has still remained, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>above average to elite, and Acunya's case definitely elite. But

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<v Speaker 1>even that right now is something that is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an all encompassing struggle. What I'm getting at is is

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<v Speaker 1>that for the month of August, currently both Ronald Acunya

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<v Speaker 1>Junior as well as Drake Baldwin have less than a

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<v Speaker 1>six percent walk rate. They right now are just not

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<v Speaker 1>able to get the job done when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>getting on base. Acunya is at a four point one

0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.040
<v Speaker 1>percent walk rate. Drake Baldwin is at a five point

0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.480
<v Speaker 1>four percent walk rate, but It's not only the inability

0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to draw walks. It's the fact that there's just bad

0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.200
<v Speaker 1>decisions when it comes to plate discipline. And in the

0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.480
<v Speaker 1>game and the finale against the Twins on Wednesday, you know,

0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.520
<v Speaker 1>there was early in the game there was an opportunity

0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.000
<v Speaker 1>for them to be able to drive, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>run in. I think it was runners on first and second,

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<v Speaker 1>less than one out, both Baldwin and Acunya worth a

0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.360
<v Speaker 1>two to two count, but then they chase bald three,

0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Acunya rolled over and grounded out, Baldwin struck out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think today we saw multiple scenarios where they had a

0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.760
<v Speaker 1>chance to drive in runs with less than two outs,

0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and both times both of them came up empty. Baldwin

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<v Speaker 1>and Nkunya. What makes them so good offensively is that

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<v Speaker 1>even if they were to struggle again with that bad

0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and ball production on base ability still is something that

0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.440
<v Speaker 1>can be reliable. But that's not there right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that's got to get back in place. Once

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<v Speaker 1>you get that back in place, I think there everything

0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.920
<v Speaker 1>else will fall into place. But the plate discipline that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of defines, you know, is a is a you

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<v Speaker 1>know trade, an elite trade to both Baldwin and Ncunya.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got to get back on track, now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really where it's been most noticeable to me

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<v Speaker 2>is the lack of walks, the lack of on base

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:11.880
<v Speaker 2>those I mean, I mean, obviously along with Matt easily

0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the two best on base guys on the team. I mean,

0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.000
<v Speaker 2>they just that's why they always bat one and two

0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.800
<v Speaker 2>is because they're always on base. And you've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of chase, a lot of swing and miss in

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.919
<v Speaker 2>the dirt like pitches they normally take. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the month of August, I think, uh, Drake Baldwin

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<v Speaker 2>has like a ninety WRC plus I think Acunya has

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<v Speaker 2>like a one hundred or like a ninety nine WRC like,

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<v Speaker 2>So they haven't been like awful, but there's certainly multiple

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<v Speaker 2>levels below what you expect them to be. And they've

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<v Speaker 2>had big moments where they could have really impacted games

0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.439
<v Speaker 2>where we've seen some really rough at bats and like today,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Acunya just had some unbelievably bad at bats

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<v Speaker 2>today and multiple big spots. Drake's had some big strikeouts

0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.399
<v Speaker 2>and with the runners in scoring position, like I know,

0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Acuna drove in a bunch of runs or not a bunch,

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<v Speaker 2>but a large percentage of their runs in the Milwaukee series,

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.159
<v Speaker 2>but he had opportunities to drive in even more. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just it's very inconsistent right now. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at their production in August, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily bad, it's just not where the Braves need it

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<v Speaker 2>to be in terms of who we're talking about, what

0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.520
<v Speaker 2>they're expected, Like, you know, Acunya and Baldwin. Ike's again

0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I said this earlier. I expect those guys to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the one thirty one forty WRC plus range. That's

0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.639
<v Speaker 2>their talent level. And so when you see those guys

0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:45.399
<v Speaker 2>at one hundred or below that, it's just it's you know,

0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:50.280
<v Speaker 2>they the Braves need more. And you know, being hot

0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.159
<v Speaker 2>in August is not everything. Of course, being hot in

0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.520
<v Speaker 2>October is really what's gonna matter. But you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>would just be lovely to see these two guys get

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 2>on track. We still have not seen. I don't know that, Sean,

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<v Speaker 2>correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know if at

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<v Speaker 2>any point this year we have seen Ronald Cunyeter Junior, Drake,

0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Baldwin and Mattlson all like hitting very well at the

0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.840
<v Speaker 2>same time, like either they're not in the lineup at

0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.639
<v Speaker 2>all because they're not healthy, or they're in there but

0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.359
<v Speaker 2>they're not like on It just feels like we haven't

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.439
<v Speaker 2>had that at all this year, and that is one

0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why the Braves are middle of the

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:30.320
<v Speaker 2>pack in just about every offensive category except Homer's basically,

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:34.200
<v Speaker 2>but like all of the rate stuff, they're like fourteenth, fifteenth,

0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:38.560
<v Speaker 2>sixteenth in baseball because like, those three guys, those are

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the three guys you expect to carry the lineup, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's happened one time this year where

0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.600
<v Speaker 2>all three are going at the same time. So Drake Baldwin,

0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Ronald Cuney Junior, the Braves need more out of those

0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:51.480
<v Speaker 2>two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, if you recap it. So of course, there

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.359
<v Speaker 1>was also the stretch there where I think for like

0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.920
<v Speaker 1>ten weeks from like uh May second through past the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star break, you didn't have Baldwin and Acuny in

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup together because.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they weren't at all.

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, the Baldwin's injury and the Nacunia's injury. So

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you know in April when everything was going great, that's

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:12.679
<v Speaker 1>when you had him in the lineup the most. At

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.399
<v Speaker 1>least Akunya was getting no base Baldwin was otherworldly. And

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 1>that's probably our best stretch to baseball this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, yeah, it's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in July, Matt Olsen was was going off like crazy.

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:27.160
<v Speaker 1>No early August as well. You know, Acunya is running

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a two forty three ISO in August, so he's still

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.879
<v Speaker 1>making hard contact. Baldwin, I haven't looked at it this deeply.

0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that pitch, the pitching around the league has

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.640
<v Speaker 1>adjusted to him a bit to make it to where

0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it's harder for him to be able to drive those

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 1>low balls that he's you know, so attracted to. You know,

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's amazing at times to see how much loft

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and power he can get behind those balls below the zone.

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think pitchers are kind of, you know, using

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that to their advantage against him, and it's keeping him uncomfortable,

0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe bringing that down too much. But the point is is, listen,

0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.159
<v Speaker 1>both of them have the talent to be able to

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 1>get back going at any point in time and get

0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:05.320
<v Speaker 1>back going quickly. And that's what they need to do

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously for us to have success against Milwaukee and the Dodgers.

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:09.920
<v Speaker 1>But the big thing is is they just need to

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:14.360
<v Speaker 1>get back to being confident in each approach to where

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they're not chasing, they're not flailing or you know, putting

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:19.520
<v Speaker 1>too much pressure on themselves. Just need to realize that, Hey,

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the whole bedrock of what makes you successful is the

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 1>plate discipline that leads to a lot of walks. And

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 1>then that plate discipline also allowed for you to queue

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 1>up when you can drive the ball. Getting back to

0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be really, really helpful.

0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:34.679
<v Speaker 2>But he just one number real quick, because this kind

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of drives the point home. In the month of August,

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Michael Harris has two walks, Ronald Cooner Junr. Has three. Yeah,

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 2>so almost the exact same number of walks in a

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 2>month for Michael Harris and Ronald Coon Jr. That is

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 2>not like that. That can't happen. My Ronald runs like

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen percent walk rate for his career. Mike runs

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.479
<v Speaker 2>like a three percent walk rate for his career. Like,

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Ronald's got to get back, and you're seeing it in

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 2>the strikeouts. Ronald's striking out a lot right now because

0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 2>it's swinging up a lot of bad pitches. I don't

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 2>know if I don't know what it is. I don't

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>know if he doesn't feel comfortable with the plate or what.

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 2>But like we got to get back to Ronald and Drake.

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Drake's running a really low walk rade in August two.

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Those guys got to get back to taking bad pitches

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 2>and letting letting people walk them if they want to

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 2>walk them, walk them. Having multiple guys on base when

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Matt Olsen gets to the plate is perfectly fine. Like

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a level of aggression that's been weird to watch.

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's been an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we want to talk about bouncing back, getting

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<v Speaker 1>to the point earlier in the podcast that you said

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<v Speaker 1>was probably the biggest takeaway or the biggest factor in

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>the Brade's winning was how dominant this bullpen was. And listen,

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>this was this was a glimpse at why you I

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:52.119
<v Speaker 1>others have talked about again, when everybody's healthy, probably the

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>aspect of this team that is closest to be in

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<v Speaker 1>true contender level is the back end of this bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>And you had Diddy hear for Wintes. Don't Lee and

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<v Speaker 1>Ryce eel Iglacias all come in Diddy or f Wintest

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely nails coming in with you know, two runners

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:09.919
<v Speaker 1>on nobody else, but nine innings pitched. I don't that

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.919
<v Speaker 1>they didn't allow a hit and seven strikeouts combined between

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>those two. All three of them had had some signs

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>of regression here recently, especially rys Sale and Glaciers, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was really good to not only see that they

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<v Speaker 1>were bouncing back, but this Chicago White Sox lineup is

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<v Speaker 1>no pushover. It's one of the better lineups that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. So this also gives you a pretty

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>good glimpse as to how impactful a reliable back in

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the bullpen could be in a postseason set up, and

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 1>this felt like a postseason game. They got the job done,

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and it was great to see that, you know, they

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>still had the ability in them to do exactly that

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<v Speaker 1>get the job done, especially when it's need a win

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<v Speaker 1>is needed so badly.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got I got a trivia question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see if you can get it. So, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at all the Braves' pitchers for twenty twenty six,

0:23:55.160 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>if you look at four, Chrysale is number one at

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<v Speaker 2>four point six f four. Yeah, can you tell me

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>who's next? Who are the next couple of guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Did hear for Wines and Dylan Lee.

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Did he hear Frontes and Dylan Lee? So two relievers, they're

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<v Speaker 2>both right at like two war I think ones at

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<v Speaker 2>one point nine and ones at one point eight, So

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<v Speaker 2>basically the sorry ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And I was gonna say, I if Wintes gets

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<v Speaker 1>to two f war, I will be. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be really fun to see like rookie relievers and

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>MB history at his age who have produced that level

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of quality. You know, you've seen rookie relievers do it

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in their mid twenties, but like you know, I don't

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>know what Krod did in two thousand and two. And

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>again I'm not saying he's that dominant, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>be I would venture to guess that someone as young

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<v Speaker 1>as for Wintes doing what he's doing in a relief aspect,

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been done very much. So it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun to see what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and to be so again, Lee is at I

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>think one point nine at four, Frontes is at one

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>point eight. Those are both in the top ten in

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>all of Major League Baseball. So effectively, the Brakes have

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>two of the best relievers in baseball, two of the

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 2>top ten best best relievers in baseball, and neither one

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>is their closer or technically their setup man when everyone's healthy,

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 2>like the obviously, the whole point of the team was

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it was gonna be Iglesias Sorez and then we'll figure

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<v Speaker 2>out the rest. They're the two best pitchers on the

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 2>team not named Chris Sale this year have been Dylan

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Lee and Diddeer Flintes. And we saw that today. Uh,

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 2>if you didn't watch the game, gren Holmes, He's goes

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 2>through six innings, everything's great. Seventh inning he walks the

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 2>leadoff hitter and then he gives up his first hit

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>of the game and then they pull him. And it's

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a two to nothing game at this point, so very

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>much still a close contest. Very much the game could

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>still be lost. They go to Didier Flintes with two

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 2>guys on and no one out in the seventh. He

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>goes strikeout, strikeout, strikeout to get out at the inning,

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's nasty stuff. Dylan Lee comes in the next

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 2>inning and goes, I think, strikeout, ground out, strikeout. Iglaciers

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.880
<v Speaker 2>comes in the ninth and goes ground out, strikeout, strikeout.

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 2>So they go nine up, nine down with seven strikeouts

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>out of that group. That is pit. That is elite pitching.

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 2>That is not That is pitching on a level where

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<v Speaker 2>you're not you don't care about the bab it luck

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 2>because you're not letting anybody put the ball in play anyways,

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't matter. That is elite and that's that

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 2>was the most encouraging part of the day because Fintest

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>had run into a little bit of a wall. Glaciers

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<v Speaker 2>certainly had run into a little bit of a wall.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they pitched like that and they can shut

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>a game down, I mean, they just shut that game down.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Like the White Sox had some momentum, had two guys

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 2>on nobody out. I think it was the heart of

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>their lineup up as well when Flintes came in and

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 2>he just mowed him down. And to have two relievers

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 2>on your team who neither one are the closer who

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:09.239
<v Speaker 2>might make it to like a three win season is

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>actually unbelievable. I don't know how many times that's ever happened.

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually just gonna I'm gonna have to look that up.

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>That is not common at all, That rarely just having

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>a three win reliever at all is very very rare.

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 2>To have two of them on your team and neither

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>one is the closer is pretty crazy. So Dylan Lee

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>did your frontes, I mean, two of the unsung heroes

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 2>of the twenty twenty sixth season, with all the rotation stuff,

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>with all the offense stuff, with the Suarez injury, with

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 2>the Iglesias up and down, like, Lee and Flintes have

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>been absolute rocks this year. And it's crazy that Fintees

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>is as young as he is and doing this. You

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and I have talked about it. I don't know that

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>they can afford to take Fintes out of the bullpen.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>That might be just your future closer, that might be

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 2>your next Craig Kimberl. I don We'll see, But my god,

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>have they been good this year? And they were unbelievably good.

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Today, absolutely, and and and they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be that because we talk about elite pitching,

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>we talk about, you know, this Braves team. The stars

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 1>need to be stars, the best aspect of this of

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>these of this team needs to be back at their

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<v Speaker 1>best coming up, because it's about to get real fun,

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<v Speaker 1>So Steve and I'll let you do a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more research and we will follow up with this, you know,

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>as we go through the rest of the season. But

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I did just look up on fangrafs individual seasons for

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the Brais. I can look back ten years, I believe,

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, if if I'd think I need to sign

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>in order to be able to look past that, but

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>looked from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty six Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a trivia question for you. Who is

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the only Braves reliever over the past decade to have

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a two plus f war season. I want to ask

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you to give me the name of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Just give me the name, Okay, Who's the only reliever

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>for the Braves to have a two F four season

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 2>in the last ten years? That Tyler Matzik twenty twenty

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>one season was nuts, aj Minterer had a couple of

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 2>nasty years, and Iglesias has had a couple of nasty

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>That would probably I would probably lean one of those

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>three Iglesias, Mintor or Matsick. But I don't know who

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 2>is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you choose one?

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I got it is one of those I'll say

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Matsik in twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>One, one year off and in one name of twenty

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>two A J. Minter Aj. Now now to your point,

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>the second was twenty twenty four Joe.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Jimenez and then I forget about him.

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Third and fourth best relief seasons in terms of far

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>for the Braves since twenty sixteen are Dylan Lee as

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>well as Vidi or f Wintes this year. So it

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>goes to show that we were talking about two and

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 1>a half f war maybe three four relievers who are

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>not closers. How rare it is. You see how rare

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it's been to where potentially the Braves could have two

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>No you were if you were to look at a

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>team having multiple two f four of better relievers who

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>have five or less saves. I'm sure it hasn't happened

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that often, but that'll be a follow up to see

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>what happens. So, Steven, I'm not sure if you will

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>remember this, because I know you're not a WW fan,

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>but I am going to tap into that, you know,

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>realm of things here quickly. In twenty twenty two, the

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>next big thing that was on the scene in WWE.

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>His name was brock Lesner. And he faced the Rock

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>at SummerSlam and won the title from the Rocket SummerSlam.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Back in twenty twenty two, Rock wasn't that old, but

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he was towards the end of his ww career. Well,

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>fast forward twenty four years and this year as SummerSlam,

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it was Obafemi, Who's the next big thing facing off

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>against Rock Lesner. In each case you had the next

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>big thing, kind of the rookie on the scene that

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>really seemed to be the future of the position that

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>they're in. And that's what you got in Jacob Misarowski. Right,

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>You've got Jacob Mizerowski as being the next big thing

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>doing something that we've never seen before, facing off against

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a grizzled veteran who's still at the peak in Chris Sale.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>The point that I'm getting at is is, rather you're

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<v Speaker 1>a wrestling fan, a boxing fan, a UFC fan, this

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is about his marquee main event WrestleMania type level. What

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>have you when it comes to pitching Jacob Miserowski the

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>mizz versus Chris Sale. Obviously, in my opinion, two of

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the at least three, maybe four top candidates for the

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>NLCY Young Race, we almost got it a few months

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>ago when the Braves beat Mizarowski. We're getting it on

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Friday night, and it's going to be awesome to see.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>And I know that, Hey, a lot of people, you know,

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>may not necessarily be that high on the Braves offense

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>against Miserrowski, but let's not forget we faced him in

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>June when we were struggling as well, and we got

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the job done against him. That Rissio debon two run single.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I've talked a lot, but I'm talking it up because

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>of how big it is, a really really marquee pitching

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>matchup in a huge playoff preview to start off a

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>big series on Friday night.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If you look in the National League, the top

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 2>three pitchers in the National League by war are Miserowski,

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Sanchez, and Chris Sale. So it's probably, i mean

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>easily two of the three best pitchers in the National League,

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>probably two of the five best pitchers in baseball. Yeah,

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be fun. I've never seen Misserowski's average fastball

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 2>this year. Average fastball this year is one hundred and

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>one miles an hour, which I I've never I didn't

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 2>even know as possible for anybody much less a starter.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>It maybe one thing if a ninth inning guy was

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>doing that, but a starter averaging one hundred and one

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>miles an hour on your fourteen fasketball for the entire season,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 2>his nuts. Yeah, he's just unbelievable. But listen, the Braves

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>beat him two months ago and in the middle of

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>some of their worst baseball. That was in June, when

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the Braids were playing like ass for like two weeks.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 2>It was I think he was Miserowski versus like Perez

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Martine Perez, and then it was Harrison the next night,

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and the Brais beat both of them. One of the

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 2>only series they won in June, ironically, was against these

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 2>two guys. So obviously it's gonna be on the road.

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Also in the middle of this very weird road trip

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>where a ton of travel over the next four days,

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 2>four different cities in five days or something like that,

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 2>So I certainly don't feel great about it. The offense

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>still today, even though they won, did not look good,

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I definitely one of these games was like,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 2>all right, Chris, we're gonna need a shutout or we're

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna need like one run. Fuentes, Lee and Iglasiers all

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 2>pitched today, I do think, let me think, I can't

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>remember if any of them pitched on Wednesday, So it's

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna be just to see who's available out of the bullpen,

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>because I have a feeling it's gonna be a low

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>scoring game, which means typically you want your high leverage relievers.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 2>All of them pitched today, though, so we'll see what

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Walt has available tomorrow. But yeah, I mean, if it's

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>like a two to one game, I mean, that's kind

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>of what you expect. So it's not great news for

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the offense. Unfortunately, as the offense continues to struggle, probably

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>the last guy on the planet you want to see,

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 2>but that's who they get. And Milwaukee's a really good team,

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 2>obviously best. I think they're the best record in the majors.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 2>So you know, at home, they're really tough. It's gonna

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>be a tough it's gonna be a tough challenge. This

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>is one of those series were like, I hate to

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>say it, but like you're probably just hoping not to

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>get swept, Like I would probably be happy with one

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>out of three. I know that's that's not all that encouraging,

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>but this is not a series going into Milwaukee against Mizerowski.

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 2>It's not a series you can expect to win two

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 2>out of three. You hope to win two out of three,

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 2>but I would probably be happy with just split it

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 2>or just winning one of the three and not getting swept.

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And to add to how tough this team is,

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I think I lift it up yesterday, Milwaukee also has

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's that. I think I saw that they

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>had a one point seven to one bullpen the r

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>in the month.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.919
<v Speaker 2>Their bullpen is. Their bullpen is so good. I don't

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>know how anybody ever scores off this team.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>It's just waves. So how do the Braves didn't get

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>it done? If they're facing such a good pitching staff, well,

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>number one, if they create the run scoring opportunities. They

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>can't sit here and go through multiple waves of opportunity

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and not get the job done. How do they get

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the job done? It's power, It's absolute power. That's what

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it comes down to. The Braves. When you look at

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>all the playoff contenders that are out there right now,

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>they've hit more home runs than any of them. I

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>think the Braves have fifty plus more home runs than

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the Brewers this year. The Braves are the more powerful team.

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>The problem is is that in August they've hit twenty

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>two home runs. Eighteen of those home runs have been

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>solo home runs. Sixty five percent of the Braves home

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>runs this year have been the solo variety. And you

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>just talked about, Steven, how some of these games could

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be two to one, three to two. The way the

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Braves can get the job done is in an innying

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>where they get a couple of runners on a big blast.

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>They can do it. They can get it done. It

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>may not necessarily happen on Friday against Mesroowski, but if

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you can at least have over the next two games

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:53.399
<v Speaker 1>that type of power output happened one or two home

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>runs and at least get one of the two. Then

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>we get to Williamsport. Hey, you're in a different setting,

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a weird setup. Maybe things go your way, but power

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the key to get the job done.

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And of course, Steven, as you consistently point out, that's

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>why this is a good playoff preview, because power is

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>going to reign supreme whether you're here now in a

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>big moment or you're in the playoffs.

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, that's I mean, that's how you beat great pitching.

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Is you you hope to get a single somewhere and

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>then somebody pops a two run homer, right, and then

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you hope to do that maybe one more time somewhere

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>in the game, and then try to make that stand

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>up because you're not going to score eight run so

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>against this level of pitching, if you score four runs,

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>that is an incredible offensive performance, and you need to

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 2>try to make that stand up so that you know,

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 2>the idea that you're going to get like six hits

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>in the same inning against guys you know pitching like

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>this is just it's not impossible, but it's just very unlikely.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.479
<v Speaker 2>So you know, this is why I've said for years

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and years, when you get into this playoff it's it's

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 2>basically playoff style baseball with this level of pitching power

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>is so important because you've got to be able to

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 2>pop a two run homer after somebody gets a walk

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 2>or a single, and that's your rally, right, That's how

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 2>you put up crooked numbers against elite pitching. So yeah,

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the you know, we certainly need to see a little

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 2>more patience out of the offense. I think it's been

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>a it's been a weirdly aggressive offense for like the

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 2>last three weeks where like, you know, you'll look up

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and the opposing pitcher has gotten you know, twelve outs

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.399
<v Speaker 2>on like thirty pitches, and it just happens every day,

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it seems like, and there's just they're swinging at everything.

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like everybody turned into you know, Michael Harris or

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, Ozzie, Like nobody has just taking anything, and

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know what. Sometimes when you

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>get in a slump, everybody just tries to swing their

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 2>way out of it. Maybe it's a little bit of that,

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 2>but swinging at bad pitches is almost always a bad idea.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 2>It's almost never a good idea to swing at a

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 2>bad pitch, and it's almost never a good idea to

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 2>take a good pitch. But the brains are swinging in

0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of bad pitches, so they got to get

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 2>back to being able to take bad pitches, work the count,

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 2>take some walks, and hopefully pop a couple of homers.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Not gonna be easy. Milwaukee's probably the best pitching staff,

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>at least by production, probably the best pitching staff in

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>baseball now. By talent, it's obviously the Dodgers, but by production,

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>this year, it's probably Milwaukee. So even the guys that

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 2>got pitching after Miserowski, I think the logan Henderson is

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, very good pitcher. Most British fans probably never

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 2>heard of him, which is a theme with a lot

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 2>of Milwaukee's guys, Guys you've never heard of who are

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 2>having monster years. They are a player development machine at

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>this point. They've become the national version of Tampa. So

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be tough. It's gonna it's not gonna be

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>an easy series.

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you put all that young, controllable pitching together

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>with the idea, hey we haven't even seen Jesus, what

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>is it made come up yet?

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got that note like the number one prospect

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 2>in baseball, so it's there.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>They're a very NBAS team. But hey, you know what,

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the Braves can get the job done. They did it

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>earlier this year. Again, at the time when it did

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>not seemed like it was the best setup for him,

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>they got the job done. They can do it once again.

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>It just takes again your stars being stars. You know

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Sale is going to get the job done. You gotta

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>trust that the guys on your offense will do the same. Stephen,

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>anything else from you as we wrap up this edition

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Hammer Territory podcast.

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>There was one thing I wanted to say. I'm not

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 2>an Atlanta guy, don't live in Atlanta. There's a there's

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>a local radio station there. The name. As I was

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 2>saying this, the name escapes me. But they just like

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 2>had their laws. It's on it's on six't eighty. I

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 2>can't remember the name of it now, but anyway, they

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>had their like last show, uh yesterday, I think it's

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Chuck and.

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, chuck and turn off. I believe I'm.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Chucking turn off. That's what it is. Anyway, they apparently

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 2>they've they've been on the radio forever. Again, I'm not local,

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>so I don't listen to it, but I know a

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of our listeners do, and I saw a lot

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 2>of the online stuff of like, you know, congrats guys, congrats.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>So obviously a very popular show. So just congrats to

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>those guys, you know, don't I don't know anything about

0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>like why they're stopping. Maybe it's just run its core.

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I know it's been a long time, so but yeah,

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>just congrats to those guys for the braves. Don't get swept,

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 2>don't get go win at least one of these games.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Miserowski Versus Sale is an incredible baseball game to watch.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>It would be more fun if I didn't have a

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 2>rooting interest, because now I've got to live and die

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 2>with it. But like, just from a pure baseball perspective,

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Sale versus. Miserowski is as good as you will see

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>all year. So I know it's a day game, it's

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>a it's an inconvenient time to watch a baseball game tomorrow.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 2>But if you do get a chance that that is

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be premium level pitching.

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's chuck and turn off. And I'm not gonna

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>act like I know the guys that will either. I'm

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>not a local guy in Atlanta as well. But from

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the clips on six point eighty one thing that I

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 1>can say is a compliment to them is I feel

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that it's fifty to fifty when I see the clips

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of some of the segments that they do, especially on

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the Braves. Seven of the segments that I look at

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, where are these guys coming up with

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this stuff? Some of the segments I'm looking appen. You know,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that's some really good thoughts if you have that time.

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've they've had I've watched clips before and I

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, that's like, yeah, talk radio is not

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>always the highest bar, but like I've listened to clips

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:12.479
<v Speaker 2>on them for like, that was a really good point

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 2>they made.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>So if you can balance hot takes that that cheering

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>up conversation with you know, insightful information, that is a

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>reason why you go twenty five years. So congratulations to

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>those guys. You know, obviously six said he has a

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>great relationship with the Braves. I know that they've had

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>some fun moments with Alex and Topless as well, and

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>they've let him have it when they when they've talked

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to him. So again, you know, a quarter century of

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>great content. So so best of luck to each of

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>those guys. It's it's always awesome, you know, to see

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the respect that's given to so many different parts of

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, so much, part of so much. Braves country

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>has so many great minds and just pure fans of

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.479
<v Speaker 1>the sport. So congrats to them on a great run.

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But hey, the thing about it is, it's here. We

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about it for weeks now. This is the stretch

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of the schedule where the Brave got to make sure

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>again those footstep getting lader when it comes. When it

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 1>comes from the Phillies, You've got gain two. See big

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 1>series in September against them on the horizon. You don't

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>want to get behind the eight ball anymore than you

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>already are. Get the job done over the next six games.

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll take a split all day long. But you know what,

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>It all starts with step one and if sale can

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>beat the Zarowski tomorrow, that'll be a huge, huge benefit

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 1>to the Braves. For Steven Tober. You can find even

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>be underscore outliers on Twitter, slash at Sean Coleman. You

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>can find me at stat's sac amor Territory across all

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>forms of social media, part of the Foul Territory family

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of podcasts. Until next time, Go Braves, big series coming up.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.879
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you again soon here on the Hammer

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Territory podcast. You need to get in the ww Steve.

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>It's