1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to our two of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. This is fuck. I am bringing you through 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: all the latest with my main man, Clay we Are. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe already getting into the second out of 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the show. It feels like the first one just happened 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: a moment ago, or it just started the moment the guy, 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: I should say, We've got Ron Johnson, this senator joining 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: us in the third hour talking about COVID policies, plus 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: of course the budget, the massive bill. Maybe we'll ask 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: him about the boarder. It'll be come up with a bit. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: And ken Burns most you probably know him as the 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: guy who made that Civil War series. I guess it 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: was for PBS that you can also see it on Netflix. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Class I say Civil Wars series, and Clays like, that's right, 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: that's right. He gets here. He's already fired off about 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: Civil War history. He's a Civil War history buff as 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: you know. But ken Burns is saying something that clayt 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I want to want to spend some time analyzing coming 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: up here in a few minutes, which is is a 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: country in a really dark period as in similar to 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: the Great Wars the Civil War? Are we in that 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: level of peril as a nation. That's what ken Burns 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: was saying. I think it's at least an interesting topic. 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: We last week discussed should we maybe had for a 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: national divorce, and that does not mean a civil war, 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: of course, but the consolidation of different ideologies and worldviews 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: within the country is already happening at some level, with 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Blue getting bluer states and red getting red states, but 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: it's making of blue states. I'm here in New York 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: City and the reality of the COVID policies here is 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: that they're completely insane. They're haphazard. There are a lot 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: of people walking around with masks on, and as I 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: said to Clay, I could walk around and say, where's 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: your N ninety five mask? Why don't you take the 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: virus seriously? But the fact that they're wearing masks outside 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: at all, I think is now for most people evidence 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: of a nervous or anxiety disorder of some kind. They've 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: been so brainwashed by CNN and others that they can 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: help it. But from the very beginning, Clay and I 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: have been discussing how when you institute a vaccine passport 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: here in New York, you're going to be disproportionately affecting 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: the members of the African American community, the Latino community 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: in New York City, and that hasn't stopped it. In fact, 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: if anything, the narrative continues to be that people, uh 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: that the only people that have a problem with this 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: are you know, red staters out by Clay and Tennessee 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: and the Midwest in Texas and voters Trump voters. That's right, 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: whit white true Trump voters is that is that is 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: the narrative you see from media across the board. So 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: what happened here in New York. We got a few 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: things coming together, and I want to just lay out 52 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: some of the facts the case, and then turned to 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Clay for some some legal analysis of this. I was 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: just watching have you seen the video? Yes? Yes, okay, 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: so I was just catching up by watching the video outside. 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Now there's video, so we kind of know what happened here. 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: Here's so. You have a restaurant, well known restaurant the 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: Upper West Side to Manhattan called Carmines. People you've been there. 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: I had a long time ago. Yeah it's been a while, 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: it's been years, but I know the place. It's it's 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: people who are not from New York City. This is 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: a famous New York City rests, well known plays, well 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: known plays. Yeah, it's a place that people go when 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: they come to New York sometimes. So there's a restaurant. 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: There are three black women who enter the restaurant. There 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: is an Asian I believe Asian American Asian American hostess 67 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: who seats them, the three black after they show their 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: vaccine passports. Then three black men come to join the 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: three black women who have been seated without issue or incident. 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: They show their vaccine passports. They're sitting down before we 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: get in any of this. I hate that they have 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: to show their vaccine passports. I disagree that anybody should 73 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: have to do this, and I share a baseline of 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: frustration with anybody. Could Clay, can we just we'll jump 75 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: in on this for one second, because we're about to 76 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: take this in a very different direction with a BLM 77 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: protest and everything. But I'm with these individuals in so 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: far as I want to throw things and get ang 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: green every time I have to go through one of 80 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: these VACS passport ordeals in New York. We should say too, 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: because the initial way that I saw this story covered, 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: which goes to how narrative dictates media coverage today was 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: three women from Texas got into a fight. I don't 84 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: know if you saw this initial way that it was 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: being studied. It was three women from Texas got into 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: a fight with a hostess at Carmines in New York 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: City over being demand over a demand that they show 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: their vaccine parts. That's that was the way it was. 89 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: That was the initial framing of the story. Then with 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: the gig the women who they were, that framing of 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the story in most people's minds was, oh, these are 92 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: three white women Trump supporters from Texas. Right, That's the 93 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: way that I saw it conveyed, Like liberal people were 94 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: sharing this story before the video before me more details 95 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: came out, So now we know three black women. They 96 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: got taken in a very different, very different quickly. Whereas 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: it actually because initially right, well, I think mcclays getting too. 98 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: If it had been three white female Trump supporters, let's 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: just say again, just three three Trump then the story, yes, yeah, 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: then the story is peep, you know, anti vacts, lunatics 101 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: causing a fight, whatever. But because it was actually three 102 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: black women involved and three black men who came to 103 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: meet them, the meeting, narrative shifted very quickly, and in fact, 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: here here's what happened. We haven't gotten to the facts. 105 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: The three women, I'm sorry. The three men who showed up. 106 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Two of them did not have vaccine proof, so they 107 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: were asked to leave, which happens in restaurants now all 108 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: across the city, day in and day out. You cannot 109 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: They were serious about this. You cannot go into places 110 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: unless you're vaccinated. They will enforce it in most places 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: in Manhattan at least, So two of them aren't aren't 112 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: able to stay. The woman, the hostess, says, you must 113 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: leave to the three the three black women, I'm sorry, 114 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: the three of the two men who don't the vaccine passports. Well, obviously, 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: then the whole group is going to leave because they 116 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: can't all eat together, which I also totally understand. But 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: then the three women cause the confrontation it's on video, 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: and physically assaulted and actually attacked, assault and battery the 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: hostess in this restaurant, you know, pushing her, hitting her, 120 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: punching her, that kind of stuff. They were arrested and 121 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: then they got a lawyer, and afterwards the lawyer said, oh, 122 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: a racial slur was used, and so it was quote 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: mutual combat that occurred in this restaurant over the vac's 124 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: passport issue. A lot of things here, but first I 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: would just say, I'm sorry. I think that's a little 126 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: too convenient. After the fact, I think that is a lie. 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: I think it's very unfortunate that people now sometimes will 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: throw that out there as a means of trying to 129 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: evade accountability or responsibility an incident like this because now, 130 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: as you know, the media narrative is a racist incident, Clay. 131 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Black Lives Matter is protesting 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the restaurant. All of this is it's perfect, right, So 133 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: let me just kind of take you through the narrative 134 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: directions that we have gone, because I do think this 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: is a perfect story for our day. The way that 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: I initially saw this story portrayed was three women from 137 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Texas refused to show their vaccine cards at Carmines and 138 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: attack to the hostess. And the way that it was 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: being shared, I saw a bunch of blue checks sharing 140 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: it with the idea being, oh, this is what Trump's 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: America is like. People don't want to get vaccinated, they 142 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: show up in New York, they attack someone, who's asking 143 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: them for vaccines? Right, vaccine passport. Then the story comes out, oh, 144 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: these are three black women from Texas, and then the 145 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: additional story of actually those three women had their vaccine cards. 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: The men who showed up two of the three men 147 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: did not. And then the story becomes after these women 148 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: get arrested, Oh there was a racial slur. Now I 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: don't know this Asian woman. I watched the video to 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: make sure that I could see the fracas, and it 151 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: was a fairly substantial fracas surrounding the hostess stand there 152 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: out like carmines. I'm not an expert, buck, but it 153 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: seems highly unlikely to me that if you are working 154 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: at a popular New York restaurant and you are relatively young, 155 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: that your first response would be to yell a racial 156 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: slur at someone over vaccine. Car they are lying, Yeah, 157 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: that seems unlikely to me. I always I always hate 158 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: to say like one hundred percent one way or the other. 159 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: It's highly unlikely to me that this Asian woman did. 160 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Confronted by three women who are large, like physically more, 161 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: they're largely There's no way that a hostess you're you know, 162 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: wants to get into a fight with three people at 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: simultane no, no matter, no matter. Yeah, this the woman is, 164 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: she's she's diminutive, the hostess here, she's twenty four years old. 165 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: She wants to keep her job. I mean, one thing 166 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: I can assure any every single human being in New 167 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: York City knows, if you use a racial slur against 168 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: a customer and the establishment, you are definitely fired and 169 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: your life might be ruined. So that's why I find 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: it's so to make well unlikely. But also ODI is 171 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: to make that kind of a false allegation, because now 172 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: let's add into this that there's a protest that has 173 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: already happened at BLM protest outside this restaurant. They're causing 174 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: a ruckus. They're calling the restaurant rates today. It's already happened. 175 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: It's you know, they this is already a multi day protest. 176 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still going. And they already 177 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: had one protest, maybe they have more than one day. 178 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the day's coverage from this afternoon yet, 179 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: but they are calling the restaurant racist. So I'm just wondering. 180 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that the people people of color, 181 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: for example, who may worksa in the kitchen and are 182 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: trying to pay their bills, feed their families, working hard. 183 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: So now the revenue for the restaurant goes down. People 184 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: don't show up. These things are these kinds of Again, 185 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: assuming it's a lie, and I am assuming that the 186 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: allegation of racism here is a lie, I'm sorry, I 187 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: don't buy it. There are consequences to that. This is 188 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: not This is not consequence free. I also think this 189 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: is significant. Even if she used a racial slur, it 190 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: doesn't give three people the right to beat her ass. Right, Like, 191 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: we have created this world where we make a big 192 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: logical leap from words to actions. Look, I wish no 193 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: one ever used racial slurs. I wish no one ever 194 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: used hateful language. I wish no one ever said anything 195 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: bad to someone else. Right, But just because you are insulted, 196 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: or just because someone says something offensive to you doesn't 197 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: give you the right to attack them without any further provocation. Right, 198 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: There is a difference between words and actions. And this 199 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of goes to what I was talking about budd words. 200 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: This is violence is what we're talking about about here, 201 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: But we're talking about an action, and like there's a 202 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: difference between a physical action and words. And this kind 203 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: of goes to our allowing of Twitter and social media 204 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: to take over, like the Biden administrations harshly worded letters 205 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: to the Taliban. Right, that's a Twitter directed response right 206 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: where you pay it much attention to words as you 207 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: do to acts of physical violence. And so even if 208 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: this twenty four year old you said Asian hostess actually 209 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: said something that was offensive, it doesn't give the right 210 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: for three women to attack her at her hostess stand 211 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: off the sidewalk. They committed a crime. Now in addition 212 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: to and but see, this is why I sympathize with 213 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: the frustration that those three women had, because I absolutely 214 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: sympathize with the freshetation. It should not be directed. And 215 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: this is why the lack of accountability for the COVID 216 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: madness is so just enraging for all of us. It 217 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: is not the hostess's fault that her management fears massive 218 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: fines from the city government of her choice. So it's 219 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: not her fault, and you cannot attack her because you 220 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: are frustrated. That said, this is how society we're being 221 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: turned and against each other on stuff that that simply 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: should this should never happen because they never should have 223 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: had this rule in the first place. But it is 224 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: also troubling that yet again. Now I mean this woman 225 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: who knows this kind of long term implications for her reputation. 226 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, even false accusations of racism can often linger 227 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: Clay when they get online, so I know there's no doubt. 228 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: And also Buck this just ties into your point. 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See website for terms and conditions. 257 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: Past performance not to guarantee of future earnings. Show primp 258 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: for the rest of the media in general, all around 259 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: good guys, still relevant to this very day. Clay Tramps 260 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network welcome back in 261 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling 262 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: through the Tuesday edition of the Clay Traps and Buck 263 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Encourage all of you to go download podcast, 264 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: sign up for it as well. Make sure you're checking 265 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: out Clay and Buck dot com daily to see whatever 266 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: the latest news is there so we can keep you updated. 267 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: And we were just talking about all of the complex 268 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: racial dynamics involving the ridiculousness at Carmines where you had 269 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: an Asian woman accused of racial slurs against a group 270 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: of black women from Texas over vaccine passports. It's like 271 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,359 Speaker 1: a mad Libs version of all the most viral anecdotes 272 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: you could toss together to make for a large story. 273 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: There's now BLM protest. Well, another story that has just 274 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: exploded everywhere. I mean everybody's been talking about. We haven't 275 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: hardly discussed I don't think we've even mentioned it book 276 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: on the show at all. Is all of the story 277 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: surrounding Gabby Potito and what exactly happened to her and 278 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: unfortunately they have found her body and they are looking 279 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: for her boyfriend and they can't find the boyfriend. Now, 280 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: this has been going on for several weeks. It's a 281 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: murder mystery drama. That has been covered aggressively by the media. Well, 282 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: Don Lemon decided to weigh in and say, hey, the 283 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: reason why the boyfriend was not getting questioned aggressively by 284 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: police is because he's white. It seems unusual that someone 285 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: who was possibly the last person to see Gabby, definitely 286 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,359 Speaker 1: before she disappeared, and possibly or probably before she perished, 287 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: is somehow allowed to go scot free, Rome scott free 288 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: and get away with it. Not look not a suspect, 289 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I get that, but just not even talk to police 290 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: through an attorney. Nobody watched to see his whereabouts, and 291 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's gone. No one knows where 292 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: he is. That just seems odd to me, And it 293 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: seems like this isn't look it's not about race, but 294 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: it's about something that people are not of privilege. It 295 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they have the opportunity to do that. Wait, 296 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: first of all, whatever he's not about race, the chances 297 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: are the next thing he talks about it's going to 298 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: be some some analysis of the situation through a racial 299 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: I know this guy has his own television show, but 300 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: I used to do his television show when I worked 301 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: at C and D for years, So I know how 302 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Don Lemon. I know that Don Lemon analysis as well 303 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: for better I don't even understand what he's saying there. Look, 304 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: my understanding is again he was they wanted to talk 305 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: to him. He retained lawyers. Lawyers are always going to 306 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: tell you if you want to be talked to in 307 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: conjunction with a crime, don't do it. Your first mistake 308 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: here is thinking that Don Lemon legal analysis is rooted 309 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: in any understanding whatsoever of the law. What is the 310 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: privilege that he's even arguing, because like, this is so 311 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: not body. The only privilege he could be talking about 312 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: would be, I mean, the boyfriend's white, right, I haven't 313 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: following the case very closely. It's a white guy in 314 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: a white girl girl. Like, so, I mean, the only 315 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: privilege that he could seem to be talking about would 316 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: be that I'm aware of, would be white privilege. And 317 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: so therefore it is in fact some kind of a 318 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: analysis of this through a race discussed with from the 319 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: wealth privileged perspective, Like OJ had pretty good attorneys, Right, 320 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: the more wealthy you are, the better attorneys you have. 321 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: This is like asking Don Lemon to do legal analysis 322 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: is like asking Nancy Pelosi to do astrophysics or something like. 323 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: This is just it's not it's not gonna work. Like 324 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't know what he's talking about. Isn't it just 325 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: such an incompetent level? I mean, like, what is CNN 326 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: doing that? This is the guy that they've got out 327 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: out there as their expert on the way the world 328 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: works today. And I was just listening to that, and 329 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no logical basis or reality to it. 330 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: You know what? There is logical basis or reality in 331 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: you saving a bundle? How much difference would twelve thousand 332 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: dollars a year make to you and your family? How 333 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: about an extra thousand dollars a month? Well, my friends, 334 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: that American financing can hook you up in such a 335 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: way that you can have an extra thousand dollars a 336 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: month in you or your family's pocket, and also twelve 337 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year. How do you do it? You 338 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: get your phones and you call this number right now. 339 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: Trust me on this. You can save a bundle. You 340 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: just need to call eight hundred seven seven seven eighty 341 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: one oh nine. I know your credit card bills are 342 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: going to be a lot higher as you get closer 343 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: to Christmas happens every year. Why not put your financial 344 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: house in order right now? Call today eight hundred seven 345 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: seven seven eighty one oh nine that number one more time, 346 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: eight hundred seven seven seven eighty one oh nine. Save 347 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars for your family today and call. Welcome 348 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We 349 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: have lines open here eight hundred two eight two two 350 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: eight eight two. We'll get some calls back of this 351 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: back of this hour. Remember we have Senator Ron Johnson 352 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: of Wisconsin joining us in the third hour of the program, 353 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: so two o five Eastern time, talking about COVID, the budget, 354 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: all that stuff, maybe the border too. Senator Johnson's got 355 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: some thoughts on that one. But here's something I wish 356 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: I could say that optimism felt like it was on 357 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: the rise of the country right now. But Clay and 358 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: I are often discussing it certainly feels like we're heading 359 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction under the Biden administration. That's putting 360 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: it mildly. It's a gentle way of saying it. And 361 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: right now, if you were to look for the most 362 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: re data, insofar as you can even encapsulate these things, 363 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: we're not the only ones who feel like things are 364 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: trending toward the negative. The American psyche is under some 365 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: degree of duress about what the future is going to 366 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: look like. NBC just last week had a series of 367 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: polls out from before and immediately after the nine to 368 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: eleven terrorists attacks. They compared those with where we are now, 369 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: and what you find is that about six out of 370 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 1: ten people right now think the country is on the 371 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: wrong tracks of that. So that's not just Republicans. There's 372 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: a pretty big chunk of independence and even Democrats that 373 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: agree with that. So sixty percent of the country, it seems, 374 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: thinks we are on the wrong pathway and seventy two 375 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: percent right after nine eleven, seventy two percent of people 376 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: think about this, we had just suffered our worst terrorist attack, 377 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: felt the nation was headed in the right direction, and 378 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: there was a unity in the country. We were at 379 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: least unified in the face of that enemy. Right now, 380 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: it seems increasingly clear that the Democrats believe the enemy 381 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: is within the enemy, are white nationalist Trump supporters January sixth, insurrectionist. 382 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: All of that, and there's also the feeling that you 383 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: get when you listen to Ken Burns who when he 384 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: was just speaking earlier this week about the toughest times 385 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: in our history Civil War, Depression, World War Two, he says, 386 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: right now we are in a similar moment to that 387 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: the three grade crises before this, the Civil War, the Depression, 388 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: and World War two. This is equal to it. Lincoln 389 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: gave his grade talk when he was very, very young 390 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: to the Young Men's Lyceum. It was an afternoon conversation 391 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: about foreign policy. He said, this is when he's like nine, 392 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: even twenty nine. He's a lawyer in Springfield. He said, 393 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some 394 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: trans atlant giants stepped the earth and crush us at 395 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: a blow? And then he answered his own question. Never 396 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: all the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa could not 397 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: by force take a drink from the Ohio River make 398 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: a track in the Blue Ridge in the trial of 399 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: a thousand years. If destruction be our lot, we must 400 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: ourselves be its author and finisher as a nation of freemen, 401 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: and we will live through all time or die by suicide. 402 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: And we're you know, we're looking right down the muzzle 403 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: of that gun. I mean, COVID response play feels like 404 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: a pathway of national death by suicide if it continues 405 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: on indefinitely with the division and just the general the 406 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: general destruction of individual freedom. Here's my hope. And by 407 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: the way, Ken Burns, I mean, how well was that said? 408 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: The quote from Lincoln there. He's done so many amazing 409 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: documentaries over the years, contextualizing American history on so many 410 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: different levels, whether it's baseball, whether it's Civil war, whether 411 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: it's I think he's got a new documentary out about 412 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali now. And the reason why I think for 413 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: historical analogy, I think COVID is the Vietnam War. See, 414 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: if you buy into this theory, COVID is the Vietnam 415 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: War in the same way that Vietnam led to, in 416 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: many ways, a destruction of the existing world order in 417 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: the United States. It ended the comfort of the nineteen 418 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: fifties and the nineteen sixties and put us into the 419 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: Lyndon Johnson administration, which then led to a furtherance of Vietnam. 420 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: But what emerged ultimately was some form of stability. We 421 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: had mostly Republican presidents, and we had Ronald Reagan, who 422 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: I think really kind of set the country back in 423 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: terms of a comfortable direction from the Clinton Yes, said 424 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: it right, But even the Clinton presidency, the Bill Clinton presidency, 425 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: was predicated on repudiating the excesses of the Democratic Party 426 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, which had made Democrats virtually unelectable 427 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: except for except for Jimmy Carter, who got elected in 428 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: the wake of water Game well once, I mean, with 429 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: the Republican revolution in the House in nineteen ninety four 430 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: and New Gingrich a speaker. Bill Clinton didn't really have 431 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot of choice, but yes, but he ran 432 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: in ninety two on like a Democrat who believed in business. Right, 433 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: there's no Democrat right now who believes in business. And 434 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, he won again in ninety six 435 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: after the ass kicking that he got in ninety four 436 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: brought in Dick Morris started trying to triangul aid everything. 437 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: My point on that is, you can make an analogy 438 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: that Biden is an accidental president, and he's an accidental 439 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: president in the same way that Jimmy Carter became president 440 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: because of the chaos rounding that moment, Watergate, Vietnam all 441 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: connected led to Jimmy Carter. I think you can make 442 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: an argument that Covid led to Biden that he was 443 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: otherwise unelectable but for crazy historical circumstance, and then after 444 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: him there was a return to normalcy. That's what I'm 445 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: hoping for. I'm not sure who the return to normalcy 446 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: is in twenty twenty four. My biggest concern about the 447 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: country right now in the era of COVID isn't even 448 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: really a function. I've always assumed that the Democrat left 449 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: in this country are a bunch of emotionally driven, power 450 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: mad lunatics who will shred the Constitution the moment that 451 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: it is something that stands in their way on any issue. 452 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: Who don't ever think there's enough government, enough taxation, or 453 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: enough intrusion in your life. So none of that surprises me. 454 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm annoyed by it. I'm fighting against it. We're fighting 455 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: against it year, day in and day out. But what 456 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: has been a shock to me is the amount of 457 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: people who will go along with all of this stuff 458 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: as long as they have and not understand that they 459 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: will not stop. The people telling you to mask up 460 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: on a plane, they will not stop until power is 461 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: taken out of their hands. They will not stop until 462 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: the American people engage in mass non compliance and I 463 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: gotta say, I know there a lot of people who 464 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: right now are feeling very very strongly about the vaccine mandates, 465 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: which I think the vaccine mandates are grotesque overreach and 466 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: they're wrong. As far as the bidenmistration is concerned. Their 467 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: incrementalism on vaccines is pretty much on schedule. They lied 468 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: to us six months ago and said we'll never mandate it. 469 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: Now they've said we are mandating it for military, for 470 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: healthcare workers. Now some states and cities are getting involved. 471 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, they keep the temperature and the frog and 472 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: the boiling pot is feeling, keeps getting turned up, and 473 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: I am I am deeply disappointed in how much. You know, 474 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: it's just the way I see people walking around in 475 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: masks outside in New York City and I just want 476 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: to look at them and say, what is like, honestly, 477 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: what is wrong with you? Like? What what part of 478 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: this do not understand? I actually find it now kind 479 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: of offensive. I've gone beyond the normal. Well, and I 480 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: think that the argument that I just laid out is 481 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: the positive one. That there is a Ronald Reagan like 482 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: figure out there who is going to his name is 483 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: ron It could be that there is in some way 484 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: a resurgence that is going to occur to normalcy. That 485 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: the flip side buck is we may just be starting 486 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: like the divisions may be so ingrained at this point 487 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter who the president is in twenty 488 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: twenty four or twenty twenty eight, that we are fundamentally 489 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: broken as a country based on being able to rely 490 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: on logic and reason at all. And there's forty percent 491 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: of the country that's gonna believe one thing, and there's 492 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: forty percent that's going to believe the other thing, and 493 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: the other twenty are gonna split basically even, which is 494 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: what's happened for the last you know, fifteen years or so, 495 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: and there's no way to get out of the rut 496 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: that we're in. Right. I had always thought I thought 497 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: that there would be some clarifying moments in this process 498 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: of dealing with COVID. And it seems to me that 499 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: no matter how wrong, how often, and how wrong Fauci 500 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: and all the other mask mask worshippers and lockdowners are, 501 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who will not change 502 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: their minds. This but points of clarity. After nine to eleven, Clay, 503 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: I remember seeing leftists and this was pretty common. There 504 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: were leftists who are basically saying this has written a 505 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: lot of places by different people. America more or less 506 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: got what it deserved. Was a left wing narrative that 507 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: you would hear after nine to eleven, which was horrific 508 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: beyond words, and it was a reminder that there were 509 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: people who actually in America hated America was a real thing. 510 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: Some of them were intellectuals with following. Some of them 511 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: were people who were professors or writers with COVID. When 512 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I see someone who says, who sees a crying child 513 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: having a mask pulled over, you know, a four year 514 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: old or three year old's face on an airplane, and 515 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: they say, what's the big deal I have? There's something 516 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: that is deeply unsettling about that, is that that any 517 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: American could see that. I'm not saying, what the heck 518 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: are we doing? That's where I am now. I've started 519 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: to feel like those areas where we should have true 520 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: commonality in outrage at what is being done to us. 521 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: There are people who go, no, it's not it's not 522 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: that bad. It's not that bad. You see how in 523 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: other countries and other errors and times, you know, folks 524 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: go along the masses go along with a lot of 525 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: things that in retrospect seems so immoral and so clearly so. 526 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: It's been very troubling to see that play out here. 527 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't I like your your case for optimism. By 528 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: the way, I hope you're right right too. I hope 529 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: that's my thought process of where we are, that we're 530 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: going to come out of this like we did the 531 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties and the Vietnam War, with a lingering, dominant, 532 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: traditional leader who is going to echo the history of 533 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: America as a fabulous place. The fear is that we're 534 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: going to get more divided, and we don't have that leader. 535 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: The Tomato Towers Foundation are doing good things each and 536 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: every day. Their actions follow the words of Saint Francis 537 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: of ass We have time, let us do good. Just 538 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: think of what this foundation has accomplished this year. There's 539 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: even more to come. They're gifting two hundred mortgage free 540 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: homes to America's heroes and their families. The Foundation's chairman 541 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: and CEO led us all in remembering to honor those 542 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: tragically affected by the events of nine to eleven. He 543 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: walked from the Penning onto Sanksville to downtown Manhattan, where 544 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: he retraced his brother's baby footsteps the morning of nine 545 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: to eleven in Clay. There's more. They're recognizing those we 546 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: lost in the War on Terror and a ceremony on 547 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: Veterans Day between Thanksgiving in New Year's don't give away 548 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: a home a day in their season of hope. That's fantastic. 549 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: Never forget, Always remember honor when you can by supporting 550 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: the Tunnel of the Towers Foundation. Help Tunnel of the 551 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: Towers to do good. Donate eleven dollars a month. That 552 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: t twot dot org. That's T two t dot org. 553 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: You voices say message Clay Travison buck Sexton on the 554 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: EIB Network, Welcome back to Clay Travison buck Sexton show. 555 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: We've got lines lit. Let's get to it. Eight two 556 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: two eight two Glen in South Carol. I love South Carolina, Glen. 557 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? Another must hope you guys are doing well. 558 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to just get right to it. There's a 559 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: joint statement out from the American Board of Family Medicine, 560 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: American Board of Internal Medicine, and American Board of Pediatrics 561 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: that's being sent out to physicians that says if they 562 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: provide information about quote, safe, effective and available vaccines that 563 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: that is considered unethical, unprofessional, and dangerous and they can 564 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: lose their certification. And I think people need to know 565 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: that their physicians are being bullied. I think this is 566 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: wildly important, and Buck and I have spent a lot 567 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: of time. Thank you for letting us know about that. 568 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: By the way, Buck and I have spent a lot 569 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: of time talking about how many doctors there are out 570 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: there that are in complete disagreement with the current perspectives 571 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: that are being shared as it pertains to COVID. And 572 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: that is why I think, potentially, maybe tomorrow, maybe as 573 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: soon as tomorrow, we're going to open up the phone 574 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: lines and just let doctors call in and tell us 575 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: what they wish they could say but don't feel comfortable saying. 576 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it's a really interesting, 577 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: major issue that is facing our country right now. Mike, 578 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: in Buck's hometown of New York City, what have you 579 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: got for us? Try? I live in New York City 580 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: and I work in media, and I actually met Buck 581 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: once at a meeting of the Top Secret Media organization. 582 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully he was nice. Yeah, we we had a nice chat. 583 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, I'll tell him. Uh yeah, that guy. 584 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: So you guys were talking yesterday about people giving up 585 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: two years of their lives because of fear of COVID, 586 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: and there are other people out there like me. I've 587 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: been forced to give up my career, my life because 588 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: of all the COVID restrictions and the Black Lives Matter bullcrap, 589 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: and you know, because of other people's fear and hatred. 590 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: I've lost two years of my life too, and it's 591 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: beyond frustrating. And I can't be the only one even 592 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: in New York City. You know, Mike appreciate it. I 593 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: think that's why so many people are moving. Yeah, so 594 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: many people are moving. And I'll say, you know one 595 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: thing that a lot of very very successful people who 596 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, get on a little later in life here 597 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: from a lot of them, Clay. They like to remind 598 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: folks the one thing you can never get back is time. 599 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: You can always make more money, you can always be 600 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: more successful or less or whatever. You know, there's all 601 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: kinds of change that could happen. You cannot get back time. 602 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: And that's why taking so much from people over this, 603 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we haven't even be gone 604 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: to as a society's psychologically process what we've been through here. 605 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, They're they're putting all these rules in places. 606 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: They were making people. They were telling people they couldn't 607 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: go to their family members funerals during cold they're still people, yeah, 608 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and they were. They were telling people they 609 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: could only say goodbye to loved ones in the hospital 610 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: over FaceTime. And that's if they were lucky enough to 611 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: have a nurse who cared enough to set up the FaceTime. 612 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this was this was madness. I mean, look 613 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: what they've done to society, what they've taken from people, 614 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: and we're supposed to believe. Oh, but it saved so 615 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: many lives. No, No, lots of this stuff didn't save 616 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: any lives. Actually, lots of this stuff was just theater. 617 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: I think it actually not that cost lot. I think 618 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: it cost lives. I think that's right. If you look 619 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: at the death overdoses and all of those things. I mean, 620 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: there are many many more deaths of despair than we 621 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: would have anticipated. Mark in Louisiana, way in on the 622 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: black ladies at the New York restaurant being us to 623 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: leave in the fight, and stuff like that, and so 624 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the Republicans have a great opportunity here to 625 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: create an intersectional alliance with the black community, because there's 626 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: obviously a ton of anger on that side. And how 627 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: I had a picture to say, look, man, this is 628 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: the party they tell you they had their back. This 629 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: is the party that told you you had to get 630 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: vaccines that you weren't comfortable with, its ordered to remain 631 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: a part of society. How much are they really on 632 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: your side? If we could just even get you know, 633 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: five of the vote more on that, I mean, that's 634 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: game over. If black thank you the call. I agree. 635 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: I think the Republican Party should be the party of freedom. 636 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: That's my argument. Also, if twenty percent of black voters 637 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: ever started voting Republican twenty percent, identity politics collapses overnight, 638 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: it does, it ceases to exist because the Democratic Party's 639 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: electoral politics demand that they receive ninety percent at least 640 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: of the black vote or else they can ever be 641 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: elected to any office. Eighty twenty and their coalition of 642 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: identity politics ceases to exist. We've got Senator Ron Johnson 643 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: coming up here in just a few minutes from the 644 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: great state of Wisconsin. We'll be talking to him about 645 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: all things going on the news, including the border, COVID, 646 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: the budget, the debt sealing, and all that good stuff. 647 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about these things coming up here 648 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: just a few minutes. Also, if you have not yet, 649 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: please go to Clay and Buck dot com our website 650 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: where we put things from the show up, every day stories, news, 651 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: everything we got going on. Please do check it out 652 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot com. Make sure you follow Clay 653 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Clay Travis, follow me as well at 654 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, and we'll be coming back in here to minute. Clay, 655 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: are you ready for this? Yeah? Ron Johnson should be 656 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: really interesting. He's been fighting for truth and justice, which 657 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: is rare in the Senate. We'll hang out with him next. 658 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you spending your Tuesday with us. 659 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 660 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: EIB Network.