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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegurah.

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Speaker 2: It's you're live on the final football Friday. This is it,

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Speaker 2: last Friday, Last Friday. I'd say that before we uh,

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Speaker 2: that will be a prelude to a football game. This

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Speaker 2: is it, and then we won't do this again until preseason.

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Speaker 2: I'm onto twenty twenty five. I'm I'm already Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 2: You're already there. How are you living? The great z

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Speaker 2: the great amazing? I don't know, spectacle extra pep and

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Speaker 2: you do. There's a bounce, yes, just bouncing around back again, levitating,

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Speaker 2: not even walking so much? Oh man, just.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we find out we got a little We

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Speaker 3: got a package. Look at autograph of the hof on

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Speaker 3: the front. Look at the brand Hall of Fame beef

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Speaker 3: Six Springs Farm from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Premium beef from Wisconsin. Gorgeou how about yeah, you got

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Speaker 2: the six Springs Farm.

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Speaker 4: I actually did think he like when shipping brought the

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Speaker 4: box up. I'm like, is there actually beef? Because I

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Speaker 4: didn't open any hardboard box, And I'm like, could be

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Speaker 4: dry ice to make?

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Speaker 2: We don't have. We got to figure out what to

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Speaker 2: do with this sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I am told from a source close

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Speaker 3: to the Hoff, and by close to I mean the

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Speaker 3: fact of the Hoff himself that when the next steer

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Speaker 3: has to go up to steer heaven, yeah, some steaks

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Speaker 3: could be coming our way. Oh baby, all right, so

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Speaker 3: let's see what we got here. Beautiful box.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a great box.

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Speaker 4: And this is, by the way, is this the second

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Speaker 4: anniversary the third anniversary of the day after like he

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Speaker 4: went into the hall.

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Speaker 2: The date on that. This is gorgeous. Look at the

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Speaker 2: dimples of the football, Like, all right, what do we

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Speaker 2: got here? You got a nice lid? There they got

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Speaker 2: a hall of fame beef hat here here you go.

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Speaker 2: But it's beautiful, lovely, Oh what a what a what

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Speaker 2: a guy?

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Speaker 3: Hall of fame, hall of penis beanie beanies for the kids. Lovely,

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Speaker 3: it's like a shoreman's beanie.

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Speaker 2: It is. I love a here's a hat for me?

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Speaker 2: How about it? What did job we have you the

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Speaker 2: Hoff swagged it out? We have here swagged it out,

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Speaker 2: the Hof died and an x l oh just for me.

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Speaker 2: Look at that, baby, that's beautiful, little hoodie. Look at

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Speaker 2: the logos. So strong, it is so strong. Haff well done.

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Speaker 2: What's this? Oh baby?

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Speaker 3: A second for you? There's a large there for you.

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Speaker 3: What a time to be a lot? How about this?

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, if I'm not mistaken, this is

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Speaker 3: a This isn't an Eddie Bauer fleece.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's a Gibby. That's Gibby size right there, baby,

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Speaker 2: this one is. This one's for gibb.

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Speaker 4: I think this is a look into how the girl

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Speaker 4: opens Christmas gifts on Christmas morning.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about flying, I care about giving.

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Speaker 3: I'm all into the giving. Hey, look at the picture

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Speaker 3: in here. Look at the Hof in the family.

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Speaker 2: Is it the same? That's just Solo Hoff with his seeds.

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Speaker 2: They are they're all so now we've got oh now what,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, hof, this looks like cutlery. Oh my goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 2: oh baby.

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Speaker 3: Look at this halographed Hall of Fame beef chef knife.

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Speaker 3: Come on, hey, hey, hey, hey.

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 3: All right, so there's there here you oh, very nice,

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Speaker 3: very nice, and one for me.

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Speaker 2: We've got some for the for the and then look

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Speaker 2: at this could it be? Oh? Look at that? A

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Speaker 3: Six single time, very important, very important, with half beef

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it's outrageous. This is outrageous.

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Speaker 3: Oh those are beautiful, man, oh baby, and the box, the.

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Speaker 2: Boxing is incredible. You're gett to look at the lovely

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Speaker 2: Hoff right there, get the half and the and and

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Speaker 2: it's and the children's Yes, oh that's the one from

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Saturday Night. Yeah, how well, wow, that's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: How about it? How about it? How about it? Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, well next levels next, I mean, we're down

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Speaker 2: the road getting any better than this, though we have

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Speaker 2: we have fun things to do today, but we do. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: what a great job. I can't wait to try the meat.

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Speaker 2: Oh I cannot wait. It's gotta be Yeah, I love

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Speaker 2: I mean, the branding is so cool. Good job, great

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Speaker 2: job out of the Hoff. Thank you living vicariously. Yeah

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Speaker 2: you off off, come on, come on, come on beautiful.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this happened a sort of although I'm

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Speaker 2: blue gray and you went gray black, same. This is blue.

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Speaker 2: Oh do you have blue?

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Speaker 2: You have a blue pant. We're just inverted. We are inverted.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Well, how about it?

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Speaker 3: I like this beanie too. It's like a short a

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Speaker 3: shoreman's beanie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful. It is beautiful. That's gorgeous. Great job,

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Speaker 2: great job, thank you? How about it right away? To

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Speaker 2: start today? How do you start a Friday better than that?

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Speaker 2: You don't, is the answer. No, you don't. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to do Awards Night? You want to do Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame? Or do you want to do Our new

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Speaker 2: tight end coach reportedly choose your own adventure. The Brown

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Speaker 2: reportedly hiring Christian Jones is their new tight end coach.

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Speaker 2: Jones spent the last two seasons as the assistant quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: coach for the Giants, after spending the twenty two season

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one as a Vikings assistant wide receivers coach.

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Speaker 2: He would have been the quality control coach while Kevin

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Speaker 2: Spansk was the offensive coordinator in Minnesota. There is your connection,

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Speaker 2: So there you go. There it is there. It is

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Speaker 2: welcome aboard.

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Speaker 3: Right, last tight end we've had correct if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 3: But the Browns tight end coach has been a springboard

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Speaker 3: to being in OC in the NFL because wasn't Drew

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Speaker 3: Petsing was tight end coach OC.

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Speaker 2: And he switched to quarterbacks here before he left. I'd

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Speaker 2: have to look that up, but I know it. I

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Speaker 2: think at one point he was definitely was tight ends.

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Speaker 2: But for some reason, I want to say, like last

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Speaker 2: year here he flopped to quarterback coach. Let's see, Drew.

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Speaker 2: I could have that wrong, maybe, but maybe you have

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Browns tight end coach twenty twenty one, back

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Speaker 2: Ball's not gonna spike itself. There you go. Every once

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Speaker 2: in a while, uh you win one there, So there

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Speaker 2: you go. So uh near he is, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: right there. We could see you can see him. I

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Speaker 2: can see him. You got the signature here, great hoff

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Speaker 2: the great hoff hofstra damis.

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Speaker 3: Honest, the goodness he is one of the most legible

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Speaker 3: signatures I've ever seen for a megastar. You can make

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Speaker 2: Who there's one guy, let me just check. But would

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Speaker 2: you agree with that? I think that's a yeah. It

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Speaker 2: got me thinking about something that I wanted to. I

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Speaker 2: believe that. I think this makes sense. Let's see, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is it. So it's Bart's Starr. So Bart Starr's

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Speaker 2: signature is perfect okay, every letter, just like the howfs

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Speaker 2: is perfectly legible. Okay. And he was at a a

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Speaker 2: Blitanikoff presentation when I was down in Tallahassee that the

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Speaker 2: Blittanikoff winner that year was a guy you may have

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Speaker 2: heard of named Larry Fitzgerald. So Bart Starr was like

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Speaker 2: the keynote speaker at Florida State. So you went up

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Speaker 2: and interviewed Freddy, and you interviewed Larry, and then you

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Speaker 2: in like the media availability, someone asked him about his signature.

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Speaker 2: And his answer to it was something that I have

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Speaker 2: And his thing was that he wanted it to be

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Speaker 2: He put him from the perspective of a kid asking

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Speaker 2: that it was his signature, that every letter could be

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Speaker 2: read and it is it's his is like that. The

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Speaker 2: Hawks is like that, I mean the Hoff's signature is incredible.

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Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott has one that is incredibly legible. There's several

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Speaker 2: of them that do. But a lot of people will

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Speaker 2: just go, you know, I mean, that's what I do.

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Speaker 2: How do you do? Right? Right here? You gotta go

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Speaker 2: to the single cam here you can make out the

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Speaker 2: two can you see it now? Maybe a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you can make out the two b's in mine?

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Speaker 2: That's it? Everything else? Do you get the get the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but those guys were locked in on it. They

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Speaker 2: gonna want one before you leave today. I'm sure. So

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Speaker 2: It's lovely. It's very very legible. So the NFL Awards

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Speaker 2: Patrick Sartan, good job, but do you give a first

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Speaker 2: that award. I think they I think what happened at

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Speaker 2: the Academy Awards. I love the fact that Jim Miller

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Speaker 2: voted Lamar Jackson fourth. It's outrageous. He's on that show

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Speaker 2: with Kerwin. Yeah, like the hell ends, what are we

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Speaker 2: doing him in a few weeks? By the way, isn't

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Speaker 2: the list of voters a little odd? Quite? Let's leave

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Speaker 2: it at that. But quite. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: like it's very strenuous and others just come on in baby,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I was floored by the list

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Speaker 4: I love that they exposed them, like if you're going

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Speaker 4: to vote, Like Mike Florio was upset by it, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: why they should do that for baseball too, when they.

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Speaker 2: Try to everybody they made their votes public. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: should make everybody's votes public. Make them public. This isn't

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Speaker 2: voting for president of the United States. It's voting for

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. If you want the privilege of

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Speaker 2: voting for it, you should be held accountable.

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Speaker 4: Correct. There was a guy from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

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Speaker 4: that had Josh Allen third. There was one other guy

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Speaker 4: that's a vote that stood out, but he had I

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Speaker 4: think he had Lamar and Burrow in front of him.

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Speaker 2: So at least I think you could have Josh Allen third.

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Speaker 3: I think that's it is not believable at all at

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Speaker 3: all that Lamar Jackson. First of all, Lamar Jackson should

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Speaker 3: have been first at otherwise he should be second. And

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Speaker 3: dan Orlovsky and I wonder if we can get this clip.

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Speaker 3: It's Dove tweeted it out, but he's on Get Up

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Speaker 3: Today and he explains why he voted Josh Allen as

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Speaker 3: the MVP and voted for Lamar Jackson as the first

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Speaker 3: team All Pro quarterback.

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Speaker 2: See, I don't so what is his what's his thing?

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Speaker 2: I just see him talking. I would tell you that

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Speaker 2: that to me is a cop out that they tried

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Speaker 2: to have their cake and eat it too. There are

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Speaker 3: other thing. The MVP vote should actually happen in isolation.

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Speaker 2: That happens in the NBA all the time, which still

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Speaker 6: The value that the player brought to their foot ball team.

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Speaker 7: So, I mean, I think I'm glad that we have

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Speaker 7: Trying to split the baby, like you don't got the

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Speaker 2: This is what you do.

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Speaker 7: You say value, And the cool thing about value it

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Speaker 7: Normally, MVP means who is the best damn dude in

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is exactly what we said he was

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Speaker 3: I think that Lamar Jackson is the MVP the league.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Lamar Jackson goes on to Buffalo. Are

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Josh Allen goes on to Baltimore they better?

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Speaker 3: I just think it would be cool if somebody came

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Speaker 3: No, you have Peyton, Rogers, Brown, United US, Farv, Brady

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Speaker 3: I mean, the reality is Joe Montana should have been MVP.

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Speaker 2: double breasted outfits with no shirts underneath. I agree with him,

433
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Speaker 2: I don't. I'm sure he had had no interest to win,

434
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: you know, like that's not the one he came there

435
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: to win. I don't think he thought he was gonna

436
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Speaker 2: win anything. I think he just showed up one Offensive

437
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: Player of the Year. Here's what's wild about that one

438
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 2: to me? Like Joe Burrow in twenty twenty three still

439
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: played ten games. It's that, like, that's my point.

440
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: He went out like this isn't one, No, you won

441
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: tenth game, and he went out at correct if I'm wrong.

442
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: Wasn't it like a rist thing wrist elbow?

443
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it wasn't. It wasn't a shredded knee, right,

444
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean, in all fairness, our guy won it last

445
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: year coming off the couch.

446
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: Well right, that's that's what I'm saying. Played the month

447
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: of December.

448
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy that should have won it was Sam Donald.

449
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: And people are saying, well the bar Hamlin if he

450
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: doesn't win the bar Hamlin.

451
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: Should have won the year last year. Yeah, he should

452
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: have beaten Flacco. But Sam Donald, Sam Donald played one

453
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 2: meaningless game in twenty twenty three one one.

454
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Speaker 3: Like that is the comeback story. Yes, Sam Donald, prior

455
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: to this season, in one, two, three, four, five, six seasons,

456
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: had won nineteen games as a starter, I'm sorry, had

457
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: won twenty one games as a starter. He won fourteen

458
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: this year. Yep, that's a comeback.

459
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Speaker 2: That's comeback baby took all right. They should have won

460
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: that one. The fascinating discussion on RBS that I was

461
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: listening on my way in here, Aaron was talking with

462
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: Tony and Emmett was on and they were discussing the

463
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame selection process, and something that I was

464
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: unaware of. Tony has been doing this for thirty years.

465
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: Something I was unaware of was that they had changed

466
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: the selection process to make it much more difficult for

467
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Speaker 2: folks to get in. And Tone said that this kind

468
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: of started with with Coach Prime. So you have this

469
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: list here, I do it. It's in our third segment.

470
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: But that's okay. So I just saw this Hall of

471
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Speaker 2: Fame class at the end. You want to we're up

472
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Speaker 2: against it. So we no, no, it's okay.

473
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Speaker 4: We can talk right through. We just let's just we

474
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: can talk through it right now. Okay, that's fine. But

475
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 4: he explained it here, you know, I we copied and

476
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Speaker 4: pasted his article for you, so that way, you know,

477
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: because I didn't realize all the different rules that had

478
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: happened as well.

479
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: So, so the big takeaway regarding the voting, fifteen modern

480
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: era candidates reduced to ten on the first vote not

481
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: making the cut, where Eli Matt, I mean, a bunch

482
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: of guys didn't make the cut. What's the part that

483
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: I was interested in was each of the finals introduced

484
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: by a presenter. We knew that mart The part that

485
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: I was referring to rather was the idea that it

486
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: had changed, that it is much harder now to get

487
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: in in terms of yeah, he was saying it was

488
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: much harder to get in now that Deon Sanders made

489
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: those comments like three years ago saying like this isn't

490
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, it's all a very good and

491
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: we're letting too many guys in. It was right after

492
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: the centennial class and all of that, and tone said

493
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: that they'd been given new instructions to work with on

494
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: their vote, and so because of that, less and less

495
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: guys got in. So example, like Mike Comeran didn't get

496
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: in because he was up going up against other players

497
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: who were trying to get in, kind of at the

498
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: end of the line, like one who did in, Eric Allen.

499
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: So it's Jared Allen defensive end primarily with Minnesota Sterling Sharp,

500
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: who I am old enough to remember vividly had an

501
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: eight year career. He was exceptional, but it was cut

502
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: short with injury. Eric Allen, who's in his nineteenth time

503
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: on the ballot, and then Antonio Gates gets in as well, Gates.

504
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 2: Seems Gates automatic walk in automatically. I was shocked Keikley

505
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: didn't get in on first ballot. That bloom. That kind

506
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: of shocked me. I know a lot of the attention

507
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: is on Eli Manning.

508
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: Luke Keighley was not getting five time All Pro in

509
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: eight seasons. He was a seven time Pro bowler in

510
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: eight seasons. In fact, let me take that back. His

511
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: first year in the league, he was the Defensive Rookie

512
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 3: of the Year, was not a Pro bowler, was not

513
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: an All Pro four s or second team despite leading

514
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: the NFL one hundred and sixty four tackles. Every season

515
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: from that he was either first or second team All

516
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: Pro and a Pro bowler. And in fact, in twenty thirteen,

517
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: his second year in league, he was a Defensive Player

518
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: of the Year. So you're talking about somebody who's got

519
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: an eight season career. He has five first team All pros,

520
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: two second team All Pros, he's a defensive Rookie of

521
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: the Year, a Defensive Player of the Year, and a

522
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: seven time Pro bowler, and he's not in. He should

523
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: have been automatic first ballot, Yeah, automatic, automatic first ballot.

524
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's crazy that that makes no sense

525
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: he did not get done on the first ballot is

526
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: absolutely wild. Sterling Sharp is an interesting case. Led the

527
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: NFL in receiving a couple of years. For if you're

528
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: our age like that is right when football cards really

529
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: started to become you could get him anywhere and you would.

530
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: He was one of those guys that you looked on

531
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: the back of the card and you're like, wow, bold.

532
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: He led the NFL in receiving with Don Makowski in

533
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: Green Bay, and he was unbelievable. And then the career

534
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: just got cut really short and he was not able

535
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: to continue. I think just eight years.

536
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: He averaged basically eleven hundred yards and nine touchdowns a

537
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: season for his career. He was a five time Pro bowler,

538
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: a three time first team All Pro, thrice, led the

539
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: league in receptions once, led the league in receiving yards twice,

540
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: led the league in receiving touchdowns, including his final seat

541
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: He's in nineteen ninety four, when he had eighteen touchdowns

542
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: to lead the league.

543
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: In ninety four, it was found he had a neck

544
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: abnormality that needed surgery, as he had two as he

545
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: had looseness in the top two vertebrae in his neck.

546
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: He had stinger injuries against Atlanta and Tampa. He had

547
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: the surgery, never returned to football.

548
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: And he was on He was a fixture on ESPN

549
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: for years. Yeah, he should be in. He should be in. Yeah.

550
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: The one to me, that is a bit of a stretch.

551
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: Well it's more than a bit. Is Eric Allen?

552
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: One time first team All Pro, two times second team

553
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: All Pro in a fourteen year career, and in fact

554
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: doesn't make a Pro Bowl or anything in his last

555
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: six seasons in the league, never led the league in interceptions.

556
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: Was obviously he was very good. Don't get me wrong.

557
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: He had a very good stretch to start his career

558
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: with Philly and then in the New Orleans where he

559
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: was a Pro bowler in six of his first eight seasons.

560
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: One first team All Pro, two second team All pros.

561
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 8: That just.

562
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: That's good. It is very good. I don't think that

563
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: is the Hall of Fame. I agree. No, he's not

564
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: more deserving than Luke Keigley. I mean deserving.

565
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: He's not Gates is at Gates of course, should have

566
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: been a first ballot, eight time Pro bowler, three time

567
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: first team All Pro, two more time second team All Pro.

568
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: He was doing things at a time when nobody was

569
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: doing what he was doing, it was just him and

570
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: like Tony Gonzales right where those were the two the

571
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: tight ends in the same division. Yeah, he should be

572
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: in as well.

573
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

574
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, Eric Allen is a surprising one.

575
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: The good news is we'll have a Hall of Fame

576
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: voter on at two o'clock to oh, well, we'll be

577
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: able to ask uh the general.

578
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: Jared Allen, four time first team All Pro, Well time

579
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: led the league in sacks.

580
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: You got no problem with that, Eli, So Eli, if

581
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: this award is about your.

582
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: Regular season career, Eli's not in the only thing that

583
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: Eli Manning has ever led the league in his interceptions,

584
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: and he did that three times, never a first or

585
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: a second team All Pro. But the fact of the

586
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: matter is he is a two time Super Bowl champion

587
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: and a two time Super Bowl MVP. And he beat

588
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: arguably the greatest team in NFL history.

589
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 2: Yes, and he beat the Dynasty twit twice and it

590
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: was on his arm that they did it. Yes, it

591
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: was his throws who did it. How I wonder how

592
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: he compares favorably to to Troy Aikman, who's the most

593
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: dubious of the Hall of Fame guys quarterbacks. Aikman is

594
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: he's a three time Super Bowl champion to Mannings twice.

595
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: But I think Aikman is only super Bowl MVP once.

596
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: In fact, the list of people who are the only

597
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: other players who have won super Bowl MVP more than twice,

598
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: Montana third Mahomes can be the second third if he

599
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: wins another one. So Montana and Mahomes have been three

600
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: time Super Bowl MVPs. The only other guys who've won

601
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: two or more super Bowl MVPs are Terry Bradshaw, Eli Manning,

602
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: and Bart Starr. That's it. That's the list.

603
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: I think Eli will get in, and I think he

604
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: should get in, but he also Aikman, And it's so

605
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: hard to look at the stats and the numbers. It's

606
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: not so different, so different, But Aikman never a first

607
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: or second team All Pro either. It's the Super Bowls

608
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: that got him in. Eli's numbers are actually better than

609
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: Aikman's touchdown interception, you know, rate all of those things.

610
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: Eli Manning, though he's a five hundred quarterback right here,

611
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: is that what it amounts to, like career records like

612
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: five hundred even.

613
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 3: Yes, Eli Manning in the era in which he played. Yeah,

614
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: if you did, like an ultimate roster and we're talking

615
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: three quarterbacks on each team, he's not even.

616
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: In that game. Oh no.

617
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: But so like, if you're not even in the game

618
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: of your era, how can you be in the Hall

619
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: of Fame?

620
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: No, I agree, I agree, But I don't know that

621
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: Aikman is either in his era. I mean, that's the

622
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: end of Lway. That's that's the end of Lway and Marino.

623
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: The only thing he benefits from is he's kind of

624
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: on his own, Like it's he's kind of the same

625
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: time as far Aikman's career kind of peters out as far.

626
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: As one super Bowl MVP, six time Pro Bowler, three

627
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: time Super Bowl champ, at one Walter Payton Man of

628
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: the Year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. He's the quarterback of the

630
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, Like I get it. But if he, if he,

631
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: if they that it's just not a great candidacy compared.

632
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: So I think Eli will get into though eventually it'll

633
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: it'll it'll all be all be made right on that

634
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: side of things. All right, we will uh, we got

635
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: a lot of fun your way, We've get we'll do

636
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: some stuff with some props. Is the g man working

637
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: on some props. He's on it. God bless him, you

638
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: know that to look forward to, which is nice. He's

639
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: got a complete list of every does. Of course he does.

640
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Brian Diardo from CBS Sports ranks the twenty

651
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: best Super Bowl quarterbacks of all time. He does say

652
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes is closing in on Joe Montana.

653
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: This list stinks. It's awful, it's torrible, it's tored.

654
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: He's got braces. By the way, did I tell you that,

655
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: I know? I was all excited last night. He was excited.

656
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: He's big smile, grin all of it. Yeah, was jacked

657
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: up to be sucking down smoothies and mac and cheese,

658
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: which is all he ever wants to eat anyway, and

659
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: then middle of the night pain, Wait was this the

660
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: youngest boots. Yeah, he's embraces. Yeah, we got a lot

661
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: of reconstructive to do. He had like perfect baby teeth,

662
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: but he got he got bombed by the adult teeth.

663
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: So he's got we gotta do two runs. Ready, that's crazy,

664
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: well to react his Nbcason and he's thirteen, so that's

665
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: more than normal time to get him. But no, Yeah,

666
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: so horrible. It's horrible, Dad, It's horrible. He looked at

667
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: me because of this, and he's grabbing him like, I

668
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: just want these off, Just want them off, Dad, You can't.

669
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: No, And every time you have to go in to

670
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 4: have them titans, you go through this process all over again.

671
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: Or when they have to change out a couple, God forbid,

672
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: he wants colors eight. He went through that phase. Yeah,

673
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: I was like, what exactly am I paying for it?

674
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 4: What are we what are we doing?

675
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? My wife goes the Orthodonos gave us one hundred

676
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: and fifty bucks office and we have two kids. Embraces.

677
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: I bet they did. Yeah, I bet they did. Congratulations Off.

678
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you what my problem is with

679
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: this list. Peyton Manning should not be seventh. Peyton Manning

680
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: won two Super Bowls, he was a caretaker at best

681
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: in the last one, and we've said many times he's

682
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: the best regular season quarterback in the history of the league.

683
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: Like he's absolutely in the ultimate game. He's one of

684
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks in a too deep but he's just as

685
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: a super Bowl quarterback, he's not great. Nope, there one

686
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: win is against Chicago when Devin Hester. That's against Rex

687
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Grossman in what might as well have been a tropical storm.

688
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: That was absolutely a tropical storm. And if memory serves,

689
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: he threw a costly pick in the one against the

690
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: Saints when Sean Payton kicked the on side kick. I

691
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: think I have said Tracy Porter, Yeah, yeah, really costly pick.

692
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: So he's got Manning seventh on list this that's too high.

693
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: Quite honestly, Eli Manning is a better super Bowl quarterback

694
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: than Peyt Hot take Yeah, there's yes, Is that wrong? Eli?

695
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: Eli is was better in the Super Bowls than Peyton

696
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: was not wrong if we're just doing it on how

697
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: they played in the super Bowls. Then Manning cannot be

698
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: seventh on this list.

699
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: Let's just start at the top where we have a

700
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: real problem.

701
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 2: You like, so obviously you can't argue Tom not being one.

702
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: Guess I can watch me go a good luck? When

703
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: I meant is he putting? He's trying to put Montana,

704
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: heead of Brady? Go ahead, This is this super Bowl quarterback. Yep, Okay, yep.

705
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna present player A player.

706
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: B exactly what I told you gonna happen when you

707
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: said you found.

708
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: This player A player B player A Yep, one hundred

709
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: percent winning percentage that never.

710
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: Lost, never lost, never lost, never lost, never lost. Here's

711
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: another way to look at it.

712
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: He's four and oh yep, Tom Brady winning percentage seventy percent.

713
00:36:59,200 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Still good.

714
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: Give him four and oh do you know what he

715
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: is in the other six Do you know he's in

716
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: the other six games? If you give him a four

717
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: and oh yeah, three and three, three and three? Three

718
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: time super Bowl MVP, Joe Montana, I believe Brady is

719
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: a five time super Bowl MVP, so you could say

720
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: advantage to him.

721
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: But my question is five is more than three? Five

722
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: is more than three? Mister zi. Yeah, let's do it

723
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: another way. Do it another way. Yeah, Tom Brady even

724
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: more than four.

725
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: Tom Brady is the MVP in fifty percent of the

726
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowls in which he played in. Yep, Joe Montana

727
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 3: is the MVP and seventy five percent.

728
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: Of the Super Bowls that he that's true.

729
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 5: Ye.

730
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: In four super Bowl appearances, Joe Montana threw eleven touchdown

731
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: passes and zero interception in credible.

732
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: In the Super Bowl. He was incredible, not a single interception,

733
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: not one.

734
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: So you're gonna say, if you were in a super Bowl,

735
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: we're judged just on Super Bowls. You've got a quarterback

736
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: who's never lost, never lost. He's MVP seventy five percent

737
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: of his appearances. He has a perfect eleven to zero

738
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: touchdown interception ratio. And you can say, oh, excuse it.

739
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: He has a one hundred or more quarterback rating in

740
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: every single one of those Super Bowls. Check check check

741
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: check all four of them game winning drives and two

742
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: of them.

743
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eli Manning might be better than Joe by your criteria.

744
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: That's two. That's only two games. It's two for two,

745
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: two percent percentage of a hundred. It is, it is.

746
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent of the Super Bowls he's been,

747
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 2: he's won, and one hundred percent of the Super Bowls

748
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: he's been and he's won the MVP.

749
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: That that part one of those I give you an advantage,

750
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: which is one hundred percent of Manning.

751
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: Maybe ought to go all the top. I can do

752
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: you all one better.

753
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: What about he's undefeated, he's never thrown a pick in

754
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: the super Bowl and he has a super Bowl MVP.

755
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: Let me introduce you to Steve Young.

756
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: Oh my one, no, by the way, hold on, hold on,

757
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, Eli Manning has thrown an interception

758
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl and his aggregate quarterback rating in

759
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is ninety four.

760
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: What are we talking? Why are you wasting my time

761
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: with this nonsense? The only possible person that you could

762
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: mention is Brady. But the fact of the matter is this,

763
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: Tom Brady does not have the same level of excellence

764
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: that Joseph Montana has when it comes to performance just

765
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl alone, he doesn't. I'm sorry, I

766
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: know people don't like it. They don't want to hear

767
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: it too bad. Listen up, because I'm, as the Rock

768
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: would say, I'm dropping gospel on you.

769
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: Right now.

770
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: Tom Brady's first Super Bowl one hundred and forty five yards,

771
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 3: one touchdown, eighty six rating, game winning driving that twenty

772
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: seventeen big whoop. How about later on in his career

773
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: against the Rams. Here, let me blow you away with

774
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 3: some numbers. You already get blown away.

775
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Get blown I'm gonna skip over four Super Bowl. We're

776
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: gonna go to this one.

777
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: That's down to sixty two, no touchdowns, a pick, and

778
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: a seventy one rating.

779
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 2: You go from the first one to like the set.

780
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: Go right through them off Carolina three fifty five, three touchdowns,

781
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: one pick. Already in the second game, throwing picks one

782
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: hundred rating Philly, he wins two thirty six and two

783
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 3: hundred and ten rating solid solid Giants two sixty six

784
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 3: and one they lose, lose, lose eighty two rating, Ye lose,

785
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: Giants lose again. Throws a pick ninety one rating. I mean,

786
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: are we is this two picks in a game against

787
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: Seattle that they win only because of the fact that

788
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: they don't run the ball to Marshans.

789
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: Here's the reality. Joe Montana four and oh, all on

790
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: his own and when he needed to do it, when

791
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: he needed to do it, hold On when he needed

792
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: to do it to throw too, he did. He had

793
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: some very good players. He needs dead drives. Tell hold

794
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: on a second. Hear me out, Seattle.

795
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: If they hand the ball with Marshawn Lynch now he's

796
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 3: six and four Atlanta five and five, twenty eight to three.

797
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: What if? What if? What if? What if the forty

798
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: nine ers actually had to play real teams in the

799
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. The AFC is a clown. Show a second.

800
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: You're telling me show you're telling John Elway, Dan Marino,

801
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: that's what I'm telling you. That's umber a sizon. Go

802
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: look at the average score of the Super Bowls from

803
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: about nineteen eighty five to about nineteen ninety six. Don't

804
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: beat down Center because the Niners, okay, when they beat

805
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: the Bears, Elway, the Giants, all those teams one huge.

806
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: The Giants had one. The Dallas Cowboys only have one

807
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: competitive went game in three Super Bowl The Denver Broncos

808
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 2: team it went to the Super Bowl. Yeah that year

809
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: beat the Browns and You're gonna go here, Yeah, which

810
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: was considered.

811
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Speaker 3: To be a very good team. This process team was

812
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: a very and they gotta be fifty five to ten.

813
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: They and Joe mont had through five touchdowns.

814
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: It's a record. And what was the score of the

815
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: next time that they played in the Super Bowl? That

816
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: Denver team? Not fifty five to ten? It was a

817
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: beat down, but not fifty five to ten. No, it

818
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: was it was one that was fifty five to ten.

819
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: Was there one that was close? Was there one? Was

820
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: it built Tisdale's house in New Orleans? One kick? Was it?

821
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: That was in New Orleans? Too? Game was a New Orleans.

822
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: So eighty five was the New Orleans The Bears Patriots

823
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: was New Orleans and eighty five so this New Orleans

824
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: had the Super Bowl five years?

825
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, By the way, can I can I throw another

826
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: thing at you right here that people maybe you don't.

827
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: Undersume you had a while ago, but go ahead, because

828
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: you didn't need to keep hearing it. Love that that one.

829
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, at some point it's like, when you've made such

830
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: a good case, I don't need to hear it anymore.

831
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: Your body, I think it was you have. But there's

832
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, one hundred percent then hold water on winner,

833
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: one hundred percent super Joe, So Joe hold On, So

834
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: Joe has record.

835
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Speaker 3: You could call a washer though I think four knows

836
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: better than two and O would you agree with that?

837
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: So he's better than so he's got that on the

838
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 3: m v P SO one check for Elia. Thrown interceptions, Nope,

839
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: check for Joe and also doesn't have a hundred quarterback right.

840
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm not really trying to argue that Eli is a

841
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: better super exactly. I do think that brave. Here's another

842
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: Fani for you. Was incredible Joe Montana. How about this

843
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: when he battled Dan Marino in nineteen eighty four through

844
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: for three hundred and thirty one yards three touchdowns while

845
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: also running for a Then think about how the game

846
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: has changed a then super Bowl record fifty nine yards?

847
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: Could he Is there anything he couldn't do? No? No, yeah,

848
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: you know what? Lose lose three times? He did lose

849
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: three times. I am u. I want to see what

850
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: are we doing here? Where we gonna put some respect

851
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: on Joe Montana's name. He's second.

852
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 3: It's outrageous to a guy who won seven Super Bowls

853
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: lost three times seventy winner.

854
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, the uh one seven went to ten.

855
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. We're not talking

856
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: he's got a better playoff career. We're talking about who's

857
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: better in the Super Bowl and the best player to

858
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: ever play in the Super Bowls.

859
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: Joe Montana, here's your I was trying to think. So okay,

860
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: so I said start starting in eighty five. Okay, yes,

861
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: so eighty four season. These are your These are this

862
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: is the score of it. Just for the kids out

863
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: there who don't understand what the Super Bowl is like

864
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: in that time and want to get all worried up

865
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: about about what the AFC was not all right, Starting

866
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: with the eighty four season, eighty five Super Bowl Niners

867
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: thirty eight Dolphins, sixteen, Bears forty six Patriots, ten Giants,

868
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: thirty nine Broncos twenty Redskins forty two Broncos ten. Look

869
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: at those bron and I'm gonna get to another Broncos

870
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: one in a second. The three times Elway played for

871
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl thirty nine to twenty, forty two to ten,

872
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: a close one San Francisco over Cincinnati twenty to sixteen,

873
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: then back to the blowout City fifty five to ten,

874
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Niners over Broncos twenty to nineteen, Giants over Bills, then

875
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: thirty seven to twenty four, Redskins over Bills fifty two

876
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: to seventeen, Cowboys over Bills thirty to thirteen. Cowboys over

877
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: Bills forty nine, Ers forty nine, Chargers twenty six, Cowboys

878
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: Overstealers twenty seven to seventeen, Packers over Patriots thirty five

879
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: to twenty one. There were two good games in twelve

880
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, two good games. It was beat down central.

881
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: So now we're in this era. I mean when we

882
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: were kids, when the free straight field goals, when the

883
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: three of us were kids, like formidable years junior high,

884
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: high school, that type of stuff. The Super Bowl was

885
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: the NFB. Yes, it was the NFC Championship. It was

886
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: the Niners, the Giants and the Redskins, the Cowboys, the Bears.

887
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: It was those teams and the winner of that that's

888
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: that's the Super Bowl to one. Yeah, and those games

889
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: were great. There weren't many of those that were blowouts.

890
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: Most of those were really good games. But the Super

891
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: Bowl for twelve years was a clown show. Yeah, that's

892
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: why it was so rare when like you got the

893
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: Norwood kick, because you just never got those, you never

894
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: got close games. Agreed, Yeah, it is. And then there

895
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: was then there's it's been really competitive since there haven't been.

896
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: What's our last blowout? Was it the Bucks and the

897
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: Bucks Chiefs?

898
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: Was?

899
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty one to nine. That was the last real

900
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: blowout case you guys, thirty one to twenty co closer

901
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: than that, you guys? Yeah? Yeah, that was anotherly one

902
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: was New England and the Rams thirteen to three. That's

903
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: brutal ball, Tom Brady, that's a That game stunk, bro,

904
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: I bet they did terrible. Did he win? He did?

905
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: He did?

906
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: By the way, there was I don't I was just

907
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: reading this.

908
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if Carolina was an ugly super Bowl?

909
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Who was on? Was? Oh? Todd Gurley said.

910
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: Todd Gurley said that after that game, the Patriots told

911
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: them that was the easiest the defense of that was

912
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: the easiest x's and o's game that they ever played.

913
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: Ever.

914
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: He said, they made no the Rams made no adjustments.

915
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: They knew everything they were doing for they were doing.

916
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: So there was that.

917
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: I think mc belichick got in mcveigh's head and owned them.

918
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: Well in watching that game, that's what it felt like, Yeah,

919
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: because it didn't look like what they normally do. No,

920
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: I mean they were pretty high flying yeah that year,

921
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: and they were not. We'll go around the League coming

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935
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Speaker 2: twenty six, will play a game in we believe, we

936
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Speaker 2: know Australia. It'll be the Rams and we believe it

937
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 2: to be Melbourne, I believe, which is exciting. I would

938
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: love for it to be. Got some boots on the

939
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: ground there that say that could be the case. I

940
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: would That's the one I want that game. That's all

941
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: our people are there. Give me the our people are.

942
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: We would the great Dabo. We would be. I think

943
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: Dave's from Melbourne. It would be like a coronation. Oh

944
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: my god. The World's team.

945
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: Yes, if we came there, come on, I'm talking about

946
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: Brown's Daily would be.

947
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This program, we are the most

948
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: Australian program in the whole league. I think the g

949
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: Man would thrive there. Put all the Bobby, he would

950
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: absolutely thrive. By the way Robert William.

951
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: Dressed up today that head shot Day to Day, the

952
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: young in said, head shots for.

953
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: The Fantastic he looks great. Oh yeah he is.

954
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: He is dressed up, dash looks great. It looks like

955
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 3: he may have he may have taken that to a stylist.

956
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: That looks like. It looks nice. It's all natural. He's

957
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: an artist. No, that's where we would go, and we

958
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: would uh watch the Man from Snowy River on the

959
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: flight and get all jacked up ready to go. Oh,

960
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: I have a fun nugget for you. Go ahead. Do

961
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: we have how much time?

962
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: Do we We have about a minute and then we're

963
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: just gonna need a break.

964
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll be quick then.

965
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: So we were talking yesterday about your father's favorite program. Yeah, yeah,

966
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: which was and then my dad turned loves it as well.

967
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: I can tell you it. Uh hey, hey, come on,

968
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: come on. Jim and Cheryl Donovan on Sunday nights. He

969
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: said that was like their big day night. They would

970
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: watch it, come on, have a little wine. And they

971
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: had a friend who was who watched it. Then they'd

972
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 3: call her afterwards and they'd all break it down together.

973
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's amazing. I can't even mock my

974
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: father anymore. That it's a great The voice was listening.

975
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: The voice was dial dial into that program, dialed in.

976
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: I didn't see that All creatures great and small. Yeah,

977
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: that was the quote. It's the best thing on TV

978
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned that the quote all right,

979
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: we've got now you got some some look you gotta yeah,

980
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: but you've got one part of the triangle that is

981
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: a little better than the other two.

982
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: Real quick, since we have we're less than I you

983
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: want to think last night at the Cleveland Great Clevean

984
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: Sports Word, I want to think the Great Cleveman Sports

985
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: Commission for they named their Courage Award after Jim Donovan.

986
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: I had the honor of of introducing that fact last night,

987
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: which was which was very cool, and the young man

988
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: who won the first one kind of riding me a

989
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb towards Knepp worked his butt off to come back.

990
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: It was a very inspiring young man so and certainly

991
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: very deserving him the odd But it was a very

992
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: cool thing last night, and Cheryl and Megan were in attendance,

993
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: and it was great to see them and and uh

994
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: and feel the kind of that that love for Jim from.

995
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: From the crowd and from everybody there last night. So

996
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 3: that was really really cool. And our own Chris Rosa

997
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: was the host.

998
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 2: Well then you win. He did a great job. No shock,

999
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 2: that's no great jobs. That's right. The General John McLay,

1000
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: you get to join us coming up next year. Cleveland

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1009
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Speaker 2: Keep it twisted Cleveland. We continue our look around the

1010
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: AFC in the AFC South with the Houston Texans, and

1011
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: when we do that, we love to talk to the General,

1012
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: the Great John McLain. He is a Houston media icon,

1013
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: among other things, also a Hall of Fame voter for

1014
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 2: many many years and obviously familiar with Myles Garrett. But John,

1015
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: we thank you so much for the time. I did

1016
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: want to start with the Hall of Fame and how

1017
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: the voting changed in terms of what you guys, and

1018
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: how many you are allowed to vote for, and if

1019
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: memory serves, does this have Deon Sanders kind of brought

1020
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: this to the forefront a few years ago saying essentially

1021
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 2: there were some guys getting in who shouldn't be. Take

1022
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: it from there in terms of where we are now

1023
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: with the Hall of Fame versus where we were three

1024
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 2: or four years ago.

1025
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 8: When I saw Dion say that we've been putting in

1026
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 8: too many and there's be an upper tear. And I've

1027
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 8: sat on my talk shows, so if we have an

1028
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 8: uper tier and stopping to run as part of it,

1029
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 8: Dion would never get in. And so nothing was ever

1030
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 8: said by the Hall about any bylaws change and they

1031
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 8: have to do with Dion. But we had been putting

1032
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 8: in the maximum every year, and I like that because

1033
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 8: there's so many deserving candidates. But they changed the bylaws.

1034
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 8: They made it harder, especially for the candidates three seniors,

1035
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 8: one contributor, and one coach, and so you have to

1036
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 8: get eighty percent of the votes. In the past, we

1037
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 8: voted yes or no on them, so we knew it

1038
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 8: was going to be more difficult, you know, I think,

1039
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 8: I'm so I feel terrible for my Couldrid. He deserves

1040
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 8: to be in the Hall of Fame. Obviously didn't get

1041
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 8: eighty percent of the vote. So of the five candidates

1042
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 8: in those three categories Senior, coaching, contributor, the only one

1043
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 8: that made it was receivers Sterling Sharp from the seniors.

1044
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 8: I was hoping Ralph Haaves founded the NFL and Canton

1045
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 8: that he would finally get in, but it didn't. Last

1046
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 8: time we had a class this small wash five. I've

1047
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 8: been on the committee for over thirty years, and that

1048
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 8: was Dan Marino, Steve Young, and then two guys from

1049
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 8: way back that been Benny Friedman and Fritz Pollard. The

1050
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 8: only guy I know that cover covered them was Tony GROSSI.

1051
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 5: And uh.

1052
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 8: Black hair and uh, so we're gonna They didn't say

1053
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 8: it was perner, they said we'd try it. And so

1054
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 8: there's only going to be four. I wish there were more,

1055
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 8: and I can't wait to see what the Hall says

1056
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 8: about it. U continuing go back to the way we

1057
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 8: did it or other changes.

1058
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: When you look at this class and you mentioned that

1059
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: it's small, there are two people that did not get

1060
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: in that jumped out to me immediately and just curious

1061
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 3: your take on them. One would be Luke Keikley, who

1062
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: in his career, while it was short, was as good

1063
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: as maybe anybody's ever been over that stretch of Defensive

1064
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: Player of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, All Pro,

1065
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: second Team All pros, all of it. And then Adam Viniti,

1066
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: who would probably be considered by most to be the

1067
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: greatest kicker in the history of the game. Were you

1068
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: surprised that those two did not make it and what

1069
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: kind of do you think kept them out?

1070
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, nobody says I don't think this

1071
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 8: guy should go in there. We all know Adam Vinit

1072
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 8: Terry is the greatest kicker in history, and he's going

1073
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 8: to be in the Hall of Fame. All you need

1074
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 8: is let's say fifty thirty nine of us can vote

1075
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 8: for somebody, but if leven others don't, then that person

1076
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 8: doesn't get eighty percent. And I know that Terry is

1077
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 8: going to get in, and I guess enough thought that

1078
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 8: they weren't going to put a kicker in on the

1079
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 8: first ballot. The only one who's ever gotten in we

1080
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 8: only have three of them. That was John Stenner, whos

1081
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 8: the first kicker. Great guy, our greatest partner, took him forever.

1082
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 8: As far as Luke Keighley, you know, I don't have

1083
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 8: any idea. Maybe it's because people didn't want to put

1084
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 8: him in on the first ballot. There is a great

1085
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 8: story by Clark Judge, a member of our committee. If

1086
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 8: you google, I mean, go on Twitter and say Clark

1087
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 8: Judge and he has a Talk of Fame network, that's

1088
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 8: what he does, and he has a great story breaking

1089
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 8: down everything. And as he pointed out, Luke Keickley's career

1090
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 8: was like Patrick Willis of the forty nine ers. Took

1091
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 8: Willis three or four years. So I always tell people

1092
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 8: you don't get in because you don't deserve it. You

1093
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 8: deserve it, or you wouldn't be a finalist. It's always

1094
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 8: always because they think the competition there's somebody else deserving more.

1095
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 8: Think about Eric Allen. Eric Allen had been eighteen years out.

1096
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 8: It was Stirling Sharp that his twenty year modern eligibility expired.

1097
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 8: He was a senior. And I feel like Mike Home's

1098
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 8: going to get in as well. Mike Shannion's another one

1099
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 8: that I think should being an old coach. But we

1100
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 8: on the committee are just as surprised as you guys are.

1101
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 3: Were you surprised that Eric Allen did get in Only

1102
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: one first team All Pro in his entire career, never

1103
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: led the league in interceptions. Obviously it was very good,

1104
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: but it's the Hall of Fame, it's the Hall of greatness.

1105
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 8: You know, he had more interceptions than a lot of

1106
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 8: guys in the Hall of Fame. And I'm surprised it

1107
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 8: took him so long because he was a great trug

1108
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 8: corner who was also very physical, and so I was

1109
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 8: surprised he finally made it, just because it had taken

1110
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 8: him so long. Jared Allen greatest pass rushers in history.

1111
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 8: He finally got in there. I voted for him every

1112
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 8: year because he's one of the top past rushers in

1113
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 8: the history, and I was happy for him as well,

1114
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 8: And we by past several guards. All of a sudden

1115
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 8: we've decided, well, we better look at tackles. But Willie Anderson,

1116
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 8: who you guys watched with the Bengals all those years,

1117
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 8: one of the greatest right tackles in the history. He's

1118
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 8: a finalist now. I can't remember how many years in

1119
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 8: a row and he hasn't gotten there.

1120
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, especially now with smaller numbers. It's gonna

1121
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: be really tough going forward. One guy who we assume

1122
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: will be a Hall of Famer as soon as his

1123
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: career is over, and probably is already Hall of Fame

1124
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: worthies are Guary Miles Garrett. We we've discussed it a

1125
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: lot this week, obviously, John, and you've owned Miles for

1126
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: a long time in terms of him growing up in

1127
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: your neck of the woods. We were trying to think

1128
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: if we can remember a player under contract, still multiple

1129
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: years on his contract, kind of doing the Super Bowl

1130
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: radio row and kind of saying, hey, come get me.

1131
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: We couldn't remember anything like that. Do you have a

1132
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: point of reference on that? And what were kind of

1133
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: your thoughts of Miles this week down in New Orleans.

1134
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 8: I do not, and I think it's a bad strategy.

1135
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 8: Number One, the Browns are not trading one of the

1136
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 8: greatest players in franchise history. Now, they may call Nick

1137
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 8: to Serio and say, how would you like Miles Garrett

1138
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 8: for three ones and three lesser picks because Andrew Barry's

1139
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 8: been trying to help us to get to the Super

1140
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 8: Bowl and maybe this would put them over the top.

1141
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 8: But I'll tell you there's no way they're trading Miles Garrett,

1142
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 8: no matter how much he wants to be traded. And

1143
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 8: it's not like they've been winning zero in one game now,

1144
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 8: Stepansky spent coaching the year. Two times in the last

1145
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 8: four years they beat the Steelers. You know Miles that

1146
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 8: did he have a good game when the Texans humiliated them?

1147
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 8: I don't think so. So it's not like they're the

1148
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 8: dregs of the NFL like they used to be. So

1149
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 8: I don't get it, And I'll tell you this. I

1150
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 8: just there's no way Andrew Berry is training Miles Garrett.

1151
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 8: If he holds out, it'll cost him millions and millions

1152
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 8: that he cannot recoup.

1153
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: That's pretty definitive, right, there from the general we don't

1154
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: want him going anywhere either, so that certainly is is

1155
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: music to our ears. You mentioned the Texans for the

1156
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: second straight year they win the AFC South. They're a

1157
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: team that they always find a way to get a

1158
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: win in the playoffs as well. What did you think

1159
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: of this season overall and where do you kind of

1160
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: are you as confident this team, let's say, coming out

1161
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 3: of this year as you were coming out of last year.

1162
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, because I know what the problem was, no matter

1163
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 8: what people think, And I saw every play of every game.

1164
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 8: They had one of the worst offensive lines I've ever seen,

1165
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 8: and they had for the most part, the guys were healthy,

1166
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 8: and only one who played wells left tack Alheomy Thompson.

1167
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 8: And they fired the coach and promoted the assistan the coach,

1168
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 8: And I'm like, that's like you're driving a getaway car

1169
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 8: on the bank robbery, but they keep you and I

1170
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 8: just the people here don't understand it other than the

1171
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 8: fact that he coached at New England. So did the

1172
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 8: new offense coordinator Nick Kayley, So did Supplen's teach a

1173
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 8: new offense of assistant. And I'm kind of tired of

1174
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 8: players coming here who worked with Nick Serreo in New

1175
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 8: England than the Patriot way we call it. But the

1176
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 8: problem with Stroud paced second and nine or longer ninety

1177
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 8: one times. The only team that had more the Browns,

1178
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 8: so he was put in terrible situations. They ran the

1179
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 8: ball a lot better, but they couldn't protect Stroud. He

1180
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 8: got him so much he started rushing his passes. He

1181
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 8: was off Tariot and so I feel that if this

1182
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 8: not new coach but Cole Poker who was promoted and

1183
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 8: did something his predecessor didn't do it, which is teaches

1184
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 8: players picked up a stunt that their offense will be

1185
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 8: prolific because Joe Mixon was outstanding. Actually got it for

1186
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 8: a seventh, seventh round pick. So that's the whole problem.

1187
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 8: Defense played really well. They went from a first place

1188
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 8: schedule to a fourth place sed No, fourth place to

1189
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 8: first place. Now they'll get first place again.

1190
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: So in terms of off season wish list, you we've

1191
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: talked to you a little bit about the shake up

1192
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: and where that goes in the Faith and CJ going forward.

1193
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: What are what are holes they need to patch this offseason?

1194
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: What is there? What does their wish lists look like?

1195
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: Free agency draft.

1196
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 8: If it's anything in the first round other than an

1197
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 8: interior offensive lineman, they should all be fired. And I

1198
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 8: see some of these mock drafts and having them take

1199
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 8: wide receivers. Why in the hell would you want to

1200
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 8: wide receiver Nico Collins third round, Steph Barron Diggs fifth round,

1201
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 8: Tank Bill third round. You don't need to use a

1202
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 8: receiver in the first round. They need Tech Stroud. I'll

1203
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 8: see some mothers Avants take defensive tackle. Their defensive line

1204
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 8: was the strength of their defense and their team. So

1205
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 8: I just if I believe they will take the best

1206
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 8: in tier lineman when they pick in the first round,

1207
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 8: and then they'll get a wide receiver of safety. They

1208
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 8: do have needs, but mainly they've got to do a

1209
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 8: better job of protecting Stroud or they're just spinning their

1210
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 8: wheels and looking like a bunch of idiots that don't

1211
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 8: know what they're doing.

1212
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: Is there any concern that because the OAP line play

1213
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: was so bad obviously that led to Bobby Slowek's firing

1214
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 3: as well. Who was after the twenty three season. People

1215
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: thought he was on the cusp of being a genius

1216
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: and maybe even becoming a head coach.

1217
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Somewhere.

1218
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: Is there any concern that Stroud maybe might be a

1219
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 3: little shell shot coming out of what he experienced and

1220
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: developed some bad habits.

1221
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 8: Well, he might have been, because he developed bad adviots,

1222
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 8: and that's always something you worry about. Course, But he

1223
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 8: still made some great throws in the playoffs the last

1224
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 8: two years. In that first round the Browns and the Chargers,

1225
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 8: the average thirty five points a game, and he looked great.

1226
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 8: He didn't go any through any prolonged periods in efficiency.

1227
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 8: It was off and on, usually under pressure he had

1228
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 8: I bet I could count. This is an exaggeration on

1229
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 8: one hand, how many times he had a lot of

1230
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 8: time in the pocket to make throws. He was almost

1231
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 8: always having to throwing the run. He ran more this

1232
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 8: year than he ever has. Out of necessity or fear.

1233
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 8: I don't know. But CJ. Stroud is not the problem.

1234
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 8: He is the solution.

1235
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: How you go that? Yep? We agree? Great talking to you,

1236
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: sir as always, thank you so much for your time

1237
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: and your your incredible knowledge on so many parts of

1238
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: the question. His delivery of that knowledge. This is the

1239
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: hall of famer. This is all timer the general.

1240
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 8: Thank you, sir, Pleasure guys, thank you very much.

1241
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 2: That's amazing. One Haymaker after another. The general. Yeah, look,

1242
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: they they have. What they have is at the number

1243
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: two pick in the draft, they took the quarterback, and

1244
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: that right quarterback validated them picking him with how he

1245
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: was as a rookie and even how he was this

1246
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: year under the circumstances that John so eloquently described. It's

1247
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: the same hope that the Washington football team now has

1248
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: because they took a quarterback at number two. There's there's

1249
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: a corollary there.

1250
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: Would you say that's in two consecutive years that I would?

1251
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: I would, and I'd like you know, and I got right.

1252
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: And I got some pushback from some people just talking,

1253
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: you know, at backstage at the Greater Clevean Sports once

1254
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: there's no court, they're not They don't even compare to

1255
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: the guys from last year the set. How do you know?

1256
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: That's what people say. That's what they're saying. People say,

1257
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: I there is a much bigger danger in not taking

1258
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: a quarterback and having that player work out and change

1259
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: the fortunes of another franchise than there is in taking

1260
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 3: one and having it perhaps not workouts.

1261
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: I mean, until you have the.

1262
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: Quarterback you don't have anything, and we're gonna have a

1263
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: lot of stuff for you next week. Shador has made

1264
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: such an impression on people at Radio Row and apparently

1265
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 3: in his interviews at the Shrine Game, Dion is making

1266
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: the rounds at Radio Row today as well. He is,

1267
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: we said yesterday, he's both of our favorite guys, cam

1268
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 3: Woord again, the two of them Sanders I think maybe

1269
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 3: fits what we do a little bit better, but they're

1270
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: both excellent prospects who absolutely can turn franchises around. Absolutely,

1271
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: and so I think you have to take an opportunity

1272
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 3: on that. You've got to take an opportunity to try

1273
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: and make that happens.

1274
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: That's where you are. You have that opportunity. To your point.

1275
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels two this year to the AFC Championship. C J.

1276
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 3: Strouds two the year before. He's won two playoff games

1277
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: in two seasons one his division twice in two seasons.

1278
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: It's never been less punitive, never been left punitive to miss,

1279
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: ever to miss, and never been more rewarding to hit.

1280
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: And we still do have a lot of good pieces

1281
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: here that if you do hit, okay, we're ready to go.

1282
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: You still have an excellent offensive line. You still have

1283
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 3: the best edge rusher in the NFL. You still have

1284
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 3: an elite, elite cornerback. You still have an opportunity. I

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Speaker 3: think you get Nick Chubb back and then this draft

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Speaker 3: to have a dominant run game. You got a Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl tight end, you got a Pro Bowl wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: You've got you know, hopefully you get j Ok back.

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Speaker 3: But you got a very good safety in Grant Outpt.

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Speaker 3: You've got young pass rushers opposite Miles and Isaiah Maguire

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Speaker 3: showed a lot of promise, Alex right, who's shown promise.

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Speaker 3: You still got good guys on the interior, young Mike

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Speaker 3: Hall with Dalvin Tomlinson, like, you still have a lot

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Speaker 3: of things on this football team.

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Speaker 2: That mean with a quarterback, you're ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, looks good, looks really good, real.

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Speaker 2: Nice, looks real nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice, real nice.

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Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, all right, we'll do some

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Speaker 2: want to share from you. This was all from the

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Speaker 2: last couple of days. Let's start with Jamis. So Jamis

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Speaker 2: is working at Fox Sports one and I've seen him

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Speaker 2: like running a rickshaw and.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports just digital platform. Yeah, Blayer, Like, here's a camera,

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Speaker 4: ors a mic, go live your best life for the week.

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Speaker 4: All right, So here's some samplings.

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Speaker 2: Jordan, what's up? Brother? Do you mind about Todd I

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Speaker 2: Allustralian accident? I'd love you too. Okay, this is from

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Speaker 2: the parking down Hunter, Jordan.

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Speaker 5: There's no moment right than this moment besides you being

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Speaker 5: Jayleen Hurst's by side.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell me what we've all been waiting for?

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Speaker 2: What is your favorite color? Why is your favorite color?

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Speaker 8: Brother?

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Speaker 2: That was the Australian. The early words you got right

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Speaker 2: was color.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't a single there wasn't a single thing I

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Speaker 3: happened to have a very good friend and a very

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Speaker 3: good friend of our program, the great Dabo. By the way,

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Speaker 3: you got a new national show as they call it

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Speaker 3: over there. Congrats Dabo.

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Speaker 2: This footy no soccer or rugby rugby, rugby footy Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Brisbane Broncos right, wasn't that Broncos? Yeah? So he uh he.

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Speaker 3: I am quite familiar with the accent, not even gonna

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Speaker 3: attempt to do it. But that jamis talent. That had

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Speaker 3: a great many things Australian accents not one of them.

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Speaker 2: That ain't it? No, they're not it.

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Speaker 4: No, he's been amazing him yelling next to shad CON's

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Speaker 4: boat for someone to come out to let him in here.

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Speaker 2: They have a children with me. Do it for the children.

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Speaker 2: Let me on the boat. Have you seen the boat,

1342
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Speaker 2: by the way. I don't know how he got it

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Speaker 2: up the Mississippi River. I didn't think that was capable

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Speaker 2: because New Orleans is not in the Gulf of Mexico, correct,

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Speaker 2: So like I did not realize. I knew they took

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Speaker 2: like paddle boats as you see them, and that they're

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Speaker 2: always there in the Mississippi River. You see the paddle

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Speaker 2: boats and all that, But I didn't think. I didn't

1349
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: know you could get a yacht up that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a yacht with four fireplaces of basketball and pickleball court,

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Speaker 4: twenty seven staffers.

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Speaker 2: I did not have. Well you need I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know you're on the ocean. You're in the Caribbean. What

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Speaker 2: are we doing? Yeah? All right? And then we have

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Speaker 2: snoop this was uh, well, we have one more jamis

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Speaker 2: yes on the red car Yeah. A ninety second tempetition.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give my best favor favorite personation.

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Speaker 5: You give your best quarterback leadership portonation starting now.

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Speaker 9: Hey yo, check this out when we get out there

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Speaker 9: on that field. Hey yo, everybody got to run the

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Speaker 9: place correct. You know all I'm saying, and heay, and

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Speaker 9: not only that, but when I passed the ball, you

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Speaker 9: got to catch it when I when I hand the ball.

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Speaker 2: Off, I just want you to run the touchdown. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: On the strength and you know what, we got this

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Speaker 9: game in the bag, y'all. I'm telling you all the

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Speaker 9: defense gotta do just hold up.

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Speaker 2: All the offense got to do is just make way

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Speaker 2: for the quarterback. He ol, boy, you know it's the point.

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Speaker 5: Jamous Pusson right here we come in love and local

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Speaker 5: and you know off what time is? It is? Jamous Tom,

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Speaker 5: you already know you better check my clock. You better

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Speaker 5: start cloking me, doll. You know I'm the hottest man

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Speaker 5: in the streets, the house man with the piece, the

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Speaker 5: hose man with the pizza.

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Speaker 2: Right now, favor, actual question? Did I do good? You?

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Speaker 5: Did?

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Speaker 2: You know? You know I'm going for the flavor? All right?

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Speaker 2: He sounded a lot more like Chuck D to me.

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: I think he did sound more like Chuck D. I

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Speaker 2: think Flave was nailed her back. Nail that nail? Would

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Speaker 2: I throw it? Go catch it? You better catch it.

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Speaker 2: The idea that somebody went into a Hollywood office and said,

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Speaker 2: I got an idea for a reality show. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a bunch of women and they're all gonna move

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Speaker 2: into a house, and the prize, the eye of their

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Speaker 2: affection is flavor Flave. And somebody went, you know what,

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Speaker 2: that's brilliant. Let's call it Flavor of Love. Print it.

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Speaker 2: It is the great reality show of all time. Yes,

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Speaker 2: second is a billionth It's not close. It's he didn't

1392
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Speaker 2: even bother to know their names. No, remember this, I

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Speaker 2: didn't need to I need to they were fighting over

1394
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Speaker 2: he was the prize. He didn't need to know their names.

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01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: He was the prize. Oh my god, that's how it works. Incredible.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have Snoop too. Oh yeah, Snoop host host.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Let's listen.

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Speaker 10: Because I've been a football fan for a long long time.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I remember back when the Cowboys was good.

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Speaker 10: I remember back when the Chiefs was bad. And I

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Speaker 10: remember what was it. Bill Belichick's girlfriend wasn't even born.

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Speaker 3: Yet, by the way, that's not that long ago.

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: No not, she's twenty four.

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, how about how about Uncle How about Uncle Bill?

1405
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Speaker 2: Last night on the red carpet.

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Speaker 4: You don't want me, I'm going to bring He had

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Speaker 4: seven rings and then gave the eighth one to his lady.

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Speaker 2: I thought it. I thought it was such a strange

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Speaker 2: turn for him to do that. It bothers him, bothers

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Speaker 2: him tremendously. That he didn't get a chance. I think

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Speaker 2: that he's trying to rewrite like the way that people

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Speaker 2: feel about him, because obviously it did not go well

1413
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: without Brady at all, and Brady covered up a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff, and all of a sudden, Brady goes to

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Speaker 2: Tampa and they win it. I think he's bugged by that.

1416
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: Like last week he was saying like, oh, we got

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Speaker 2: to rename the from the Lombardi, we got to name

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Speaker 2: it the Brady Trophy. Like I think he's trying to

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Speaker 2: rewrite some history. I thought it was strange to show

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Speaker 2: up with all the rings and stuff, didn't you It's

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Speaker 2: odd you're coaching so much about it. That is odd.

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Speaker 3: And I thought he showed a great deal of affability

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Speaker 3: and was fun on the Manning cast this year and

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Speaker 3: all of it. I think that it it's strange. It's

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Speaker 3: the whole thing is strange. It all feels like and

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Speaker 3: it's not midlife, but it gives the air of.

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: Late life crisis. Yeah yeah, yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna find a similar thing when

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Speaker 2: he college football next Year's pretty rude him, Micha party

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: they're going to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of people who I

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Speaker 3: know and who I recru great Wheel who are like, no,

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01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 3: but you don't are saying he's gonna run it like

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Speaker 3: an NFL program, And you've been saying, like what do

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Speaker 3: you think it's going on? At Ohio State and Texas

1436
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: and Alabama been.

1437
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: Doing for twenty years.

1438
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 3: But he would know this. He's talked to say, Hey,

1439
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: we did that. Were you this is what we're gonna do.

1440
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: Were you doing this in Alabama? Yeah, we've been doing

1441
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: that for a decade. We're gonna have first class train.

1442
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what from the video I watched last

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01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: night at the Great Clips, there are high schools around

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: here that have Yeah, go to Maslin NFL training facilities.

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah no, there are fact fact Yeah, all right, you're

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: ready for some props. Let's do it. You got this highlighted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the g man went through. We found some, We

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Speaker 4: found some quality ones.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping for some you know, maybe that'll be

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Speaker 3: in the over under. So baby, it's coming.

1451
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: It all comes down to this one game lead, one

1452
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: game lead whatever.

1453
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: Gibbe says, same, Callie, Please tell me, please tell me

1454
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 3: it wasn't It wasn't low those many years ago.

1455
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: I want to say it was maybe two years ago.

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Speaker 3: We were in a kind of a similar situation where

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Speaker 3: I was up one or two, and then you just

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01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: took the same things as me and mathematically eliminated yourself

1459
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 3: before it was even the games were even played.

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Speaker 2: I think i've done this multiple times as a track record.

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Speaker 2: Do it again, do it again. I like winning. I

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Speaker 2: win in a tie. Right to be the man, you

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Speaker 2: gotta beat the man. We agree with that? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think so, I think you. I think yeah, Tye. Champions prerogative. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just hit that. I just hit

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Speaker 2: somebody with Champions prerogative this week the championsgraphy change my mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Montana's number one. Now we've ended the debate.

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 3: We've thrown that piece of pa. It's in the garbage.

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: Garbage. We moved on. We moved on it.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome, Joe dude forever. By the way, G Man,

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Speaker 3: important update time. Where are we with Jeff George?

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Speaker 2: It's Super Bowl week? Who knows is your name? Man?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you even I'm gonna be honest

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01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: with you, I don't know if you even want him on.

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Speaker 2: I do want him on the whole legend. That's fine. Okay.

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Speaker 3: First of all, that's one thing when you encounter somebody

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Speaker 3: like out in the wild and and you're like, this.

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01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: Man has a track record of not being the friendliest.

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01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 3: This guy right now the pitch, g Man, and I

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Speaker 3: know you're gonna handle this with great skill and deafness.

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Speaker 2: Are saying, Okay, Jeff, George him up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this or not, but

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Speaker 3: the host of award winning Cleveland Browns, the most listened

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Speaker 3: to show in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: That's right, true story, yep.

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Speaker 3: The color answer Browns is maybe your biggest fan ever.

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Speaker 2: I don't think maybe. I guarantee you the only people

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Speaker 2: on this planet who love him more. There's there's only

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Speaker 2: two people living the same and that's you and Jason Whitlock.

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Speaker 2: Like quick Lock loves him because he played with him

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Speaker 2: in high school. So that's it. That's the list. It's

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Speaker 2: you and him.

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Speaker 3: So I think he would be I think he's gonna

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Speaker 3: beybody else who's doing it. What interview is he gonna

1495
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 3: walk into where it is going to be more more

1496
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 3: fun and friendly than this one?

1497
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 6: You.

1498
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: I if we get him on, I think you'll be

1499
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: a lot like Chris Farley interviewing Paul McCartney. It's awesome,

1500
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: be Do you remember that time with the Falcons for

1501
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 2: four seventy That was awesome, awesome, awesome, it was awesome.

1502
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: Remember when Chris Carter said he wouldn't play unless you

1503
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 3: were his quarterback and then he still played it was

1504
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 3: what he said was the sentiment was awesome, awesome, so awesome,

1505
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 3: that's what it's gonna be. Oh my god, I'm gonna

1506
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 3: wear a sport coat for that.

1507
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: I need a tweed, like a tweet like maybe get

1508
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 2: an Illinois orange tie, orange of blue Illinois. I have one.

1509
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 3: Course, he's got what I've got. I've got my or

1510
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 3: I've orange.

1511
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: Brown.

1512
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, all right, go ahead, give it a rapid

1513
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 4: fire because we're up against it.

1514
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: Coin tossed result heads or tails tails? Tails?

1515
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 4: Okay, heads leaves all time? How long will the national

1516
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 4: anthem be? The over under is one hundred and twenty.

1517
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 2: Point over over. John Baptiste is singing it. He's a

1518
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: New Orleans native, is Juilliard train. He can play like

1519
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: every instrument on the planet. Correct. If he wheels out

1520
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: a piano, it's definitely over. Acappella could be under, but

1521
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: I think if.

1522
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 4: He started in seventeen NBA All Star Game, he performed

1523
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 4: and he had his piano interlude at the beginning, that

1524
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 4: pushed it to one hundred and twenty point five.

1525
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's over. It's his hometown, it's his this is

1526
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 2: he's brilliant too, Yes, brilliant player or coach, coach cry

1527
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 2: during the national anthem, I don't know no, yes, yes,

1528
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: gatorade color purple, orange, yellow, green, lime, blue, red, pink,

1529
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: clear water, red, pink. I'm gonna go purple. Two of

1530
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: the three Super Bowls that the Chiefs have won have

1531
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: been purple. Was the other. I'm gonna say, if we

1532
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: get if we get purple, though.

1533
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: It's well documented you cannot make purple, red, red, red, something.

1534
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: What color will Tom Brady's tybee blue? They're in the

1535
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: order that most favorite. Yes, he's gonna go black. He's

1536
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: been doing that a lot.

1537
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 3: I said, Uh, I said, I'll say, I highlighted two

1538
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 3: of them, blue gray, silver.

1539
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: What if it's a blue gray? Could be a blue gray?

1540
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 4: First player to yell to coach or teammate on the sideline,

1541
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 4: your options are a Jay Brown, Travis Kelsey, Xavier Worthy,

1542
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts, Petrockholmes, or the field.

1543
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 3: So first, I have so many questions. I'm taking the field.

1544
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: What constitutes yelling? Because what was the playoff game? We

1545
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 3: saw on like the opening kickoff, some special teams guy

1546
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 3: comes over and pushes his.

1547
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: Coach and his yelling but he's happy yelling yelling. I

1548
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm taking opening on the opening kickoff.

1549
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 3: If they're run it out, there's gonna be a tackle

1550
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 3: and somebody's gonna come yell at somebody on the side.

1551
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't think any of these players will yell at

1552
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: the coach. No.

1553
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 4: Will any player retire on the field after the game?

1554
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

1555
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 4: No, Well, any player proposed to a girlfriend on the field, No, no, no, Swifty, no.

1556
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: No, he's not doing it at the superpose to the

1557
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: most famous woman on the planet at the super Bowl.

1558
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: That'll be like a made for TV special, perfect, He'll

1559
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: he'll do that in uh.

1560
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 3: That will then again sell the Yah proposal picture, of course.

1561
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be. It's not going to be on

1562
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: a nationally ridiculous place in Italy or Croatio or something

1563
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: like that. A gorgeous place.

1564
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Andy say burger during an on field interview?

1565
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 2: Yes, what was the question?

1566
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 4: Will Andy Reid say burger during an on field interview?

1567
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: Because he's going to interview some with some of the

1568
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: local folks, do probably, so, Yeah, I think you will

1569
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: get a burger.

1570
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 4: How many times will Taylor Swift be shown on the

1571
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 4: broadcast The official number over under is six and a half.

1572
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: I think they're to it under, which, by the way,

1573
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 2: that's so ridiculous. They've only been showing really famous people

1574
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: at sporting events forever. Yes, I mean Lakers games, next games,

1575
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: Rangers games, any major sports all times. Did you see

1576
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: Lebron James at the National Championship game this week? What

1577
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: happened Duke North Carolina game by the way, right by

1578
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: the way with there's a I don't know if I saw.

1579
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,480
Speaker 2: There's a social media meltdown from a one time nemesis

1580
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: of t Swift today, So that I got one more

1581
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 2: what happens?

1582
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 4: First went once the game begins, Taylor Swift is shown

1583
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 4: on the broadcast, or Travis Kelcey catches his first pass.

1584
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: She's shown Kelsey to him. I bet she's shown. She's

1585
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: shown before. They no, no, this says once the game begins,

1586
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: Once the game beginning, Oh, then we're gonna throw a

1587
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: quick little hat and then him and her bing go ye,

1588
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: there's your prop bets I like her. We'll do a

1589
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 2: little over unders. Coming up next. List to Clevelan Browns

1590
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 2: Daily on eight fifty ESP and Cleveland.

1591
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bett, an official sports

1592
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESP

1593
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: and Cleveland.

1594
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: All Right, here we go. I don't know if it's

1595
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: ever been more important than what we're about to do

1596
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 2: in the history of this program. This is probably the

1597
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 2: most important five minute segment we've ever had.

1598
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: It's not not Yeah, I can't say it isn't.

1599
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: Here we go over unders. Super Bowl. We played an

1600
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 2: entire regular season. You guys were tied in exactly five hundred.

1601
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: And we split, by the way, the conference championships. Right, yeah,

1602
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 3: so we're still combined. Just for the kids out there

1603
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 3: keeping track at home, sixty six games.

1604
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 2: Over five hundred this year. Oh on that side of things. Yeah, No,

1605
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: this is overrunners over unders. You have a one game lead, yep,

1606
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: with the Super Bowl to play, yep, and so you

1607
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: must go first. Saquon Barkley rushing yards over under one

1608
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: fifteen point five. Hey, hold on, you can't change it once.

1609
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: It's in. No, it's in. It's in. It's in. It's

1610
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: in because I.

1611
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 4: Can't have him going back going well, I'm just gonna

1612
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 4: do whatever he wants.

1613
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,480
Speaker 2: No, No, that's fair. He's going first. This is a society.

1614
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,879
Speaker 2: This rules, rules, rules. I'm a man of great decorums.

1615
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 2: This isn't the Hudson Middle School drop offline where there

1616
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: are no rules or decorum. Well, the Olmsteed falls up

1617
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 2: offline used to be the same one. It's just ridiculous.

1618
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: There are rules here. Go ahead, one fift.

1619
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,440
Speaker 3: I feel like that has to be the top priority

1620
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 3: for the Kansasity Chiefs. I'm sure it's been for everybody.

1621
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: It's a big number. It's a big number. I'm gonna

1622
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 2: go under.

1623
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 4: You say one one five. Man, he screwed me over

1624
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship game, like Mahomes, I will not

1625
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 4: be bid again.

1626
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 2: Over and there we have it over under. Dallas gott it.

1627
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 2: Receiving yards over under giving Chief's almost fireable. Dallas got

1628
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: receiving yards over under fifty one and a half under under.

1629
01:24:54,000 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: I'll take under two under over under all right, doctor

1630
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: z Patrick Mahomes passing attempts twenty nine and a half

1631
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: attempts Mahomes, Mahomace Patrick hold on Ricard Mahomes Patrick twenty

1632
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: nine and a half. Yeah, that's right.

1633
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: Under both games in the playoffs so far.

1634
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: Over. I don't know that you can say that, Gibbick,

1635
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't think you can hit that dump button. I

1636
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: already did, thank you. I'm always the SCC coming in. Gibbeck.

1637
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: Hold o, can I well real question? Because I goes

1638
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 3: caught off guard real quickly. What was the goddard total?

1639
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 3: Fifty one and a half over? Oh you're growing, Oh

1640
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 3: my god, oh baby? Over all right, he went over

1641
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 3: twenty nine and a half. So you have two differences

1642
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 3: all ready.

1643
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,440
Speaker 2: He's already violated.

1644
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Because you were saying change it to

1645
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 3: make it the same as yours, he actually changed it

1646
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 3: to make it different different.

1647
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 2: He changed to make it different. I'm going, I'm going,

1648
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 2: and I went from the mahomes thing because it allows

1649
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: for you to go over on the mahomes. Right. Next,

1650
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 2: we got to do the same over under Travis Kelcey

1651
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: receptions over under Gibbet seven and a half over. He

1652
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 2: thrives in this game, right, Only one in the last

1653
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: four I think it was just, uh Pittsburgh. Maybe, yeah,

1654
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: there's one game anyone over seven and a half, seven

1655
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: and a half. He's gone over one too.

1656
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 3: Once in the last nine games under he went under.

1657
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, We've never had anything like this. It's

1658
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: more fun. We didn't want to come out to one thing.

1659
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 2: Don't even remember who did what? I know that's gonna

1660
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 2: be the best, right, all right? Total points score word

1661
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: doctor z forty eight and a half forty eight and

1662
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:17,959
Speaker 2: that feels like a big number.

1663
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: Another last super Bowl went well over.

1664
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: These are good defenses, though this sucks. I hate you,

1665
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: Gabe man under kabah. What do you say he went under?

1666
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: I'm over? Oh baby? Four differences, that's a lot. That's

1667
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: a lot going on.

1668
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 4: Were you going over? No matter what I was, I

1669
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 4: have the over. That's why I just assumed you were

1670
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 4: going to go over. I'm like, well, this puts me

1671
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 4: in a position that I don't switch that.

1672
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: Do have the ability? No? Because he switched dates. Yeah,

1673
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't switch opposite to him. What's now?

1674
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: It's locked in. We have four differences, we have the rules.

1675
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 2: We have rules. That's going to be crazy. You want

1676
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: to do that. We'll do our score after this. I

1677
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 2: need to go to babies. More to come well, including

1678
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 2: your your official prediction out of Cleveland Browns Daily on

1679
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 2: your super Bowl scores coming up next to Cleveland Browns

1680
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1681
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Back, an official sports

1682
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESP

1683
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: and Cleveland.

1684
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 2: All right, gibbe, we've got one last score to give

1685
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:57,440
Speaker 2: you people.

1686
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:01,879
Speaker 4: One last game. And there was one the last Sunday

1687
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 4: with football for a little while. You think, yeah, you're good,

1688
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 4: you're on.

1689
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Is he on now? Is it still one? Now?

1690
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 8: You're on?

1691
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean yeah, that was him back there. That

1692
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: was him.

1693
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 4: It's the Philadelphia so rattled its chiefs, It's New Orleans.

1694
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 4: Is it one living his best life there? He went

1695
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 4: to Syracuse Chiefs.

1696
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 2: What does that?

1697
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's amazing that Syracuse alums find

1698
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 4: a way to work that into every single thing I.

1699
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,520
Speaker 2: Tell you about. It's true, that's true they do. That's right.

1700
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: You go hand her. How that Duke game go the

1701
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: other night? Oh my gosh, just man shots. You were

1702
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: inspired by John McLean. Yeah, I mean boy, there's been

1703
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: no filter in the last ten minutes. We're just living

1704
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: baby you guys today.

1705
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 3: Guy, I can't wait for me back early March.

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Speaker 2: Uncle they Billy, give me an uncle, baby Billy spin

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Speaker 2: off bo Just give me a score. I thinks Chiefs

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01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 2: twenty eight, Eagles twenty four. Same, same but same, same,

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01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: but same. That's pretty much how the week's gone. Too.

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01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: Very no one's talking about the game. I think there's

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01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 2: just a great deal of fatigue with these two teams.

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01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 2: And I had fatigue of it too. I wasn't interested

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01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: in much of the stuff coming out about the game

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Speaker 2: down there, but I look, I really look forward. I

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01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a great game.

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Speaker 3: The biggest stuff going on down there involves km Moorden,

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Speaker 3: schanor Sanders, as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. All right, we'll be

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Speaker 2: back on Monday to break it all down. The next

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Speaker 2: level is next Right here on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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