Speaker 1: To accept press one just still a voicemail. Hello, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, is this Wile?
Speaker 2: Yes? Who is this?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Lyle, I'm so excited. This is Barnacle.
Speaker 3: How are you? How are you in Tokyo right now?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I'm living life. I'm around, I'm somewhere.
Speaker 2: I'm somewhere in a room in the world. I'm around, Barnacle.
Speaker 2: What's up with you? Where are you?
Speaker 3: Dude? Okay, I'm in Alaska, And let me tell you,
Speaker 3: I'm so fucking excited. I saw that you're coming here. Yes,
Speaker 3: every day, every day I look at the thing to
Speaker 3: see if it got taken off of RSVP, and it's
Speaker 3: still on RSVP, and it's kid.
Speaker 2: Did you RSVP? Did you hit the did you put
Speaker 2: your phone number in the thing?
Speaker 3: Of course? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, then you will. I will for you, I promise you.
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm very happy to hear that you're excited.
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to do it. I have been wanting
Speaker 2: to do a show in Alaska since I started doing shows.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited that at least one person will be there.
Speaker 2: So so thank you, Barnacle.
Speaker 3: What what is the draw to Alaska? Like? Why are
Speaker 3: you excited to come up here?
Speaker 2: I'm running out of places to go to in life.
Speaker 2: I'm just running out of places. I mean, why go
Speaker 2: to Alaska? I don't know. It's just like it's just
Speaker 2: a thing. It's like, what's going on over there? You know?
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm kind of a runner. I kind
Speaker 2: of I'm like, I mean, I'm addicted to novelty in
Speaker 2: some sense, and so I'm always like I'm always trying
Speaker 2: to find the new Uh where the sauce is?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean that's why I do all this traveling and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I Alaska is a curious Alaska
Speaker 2: is a curious place to me because it's America. But
Speaker 2: it's totally not because it's so far way. It's a
Speaker 2: different place.
Speaker 3: You know, what do you? What? Do you? What? What
Speaker 3: do you mean?
Speaker 1: It's what it's like.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'll go there and I'll figure it out on
Speaker 2: my own. But anyway, Barnacle, Uh, well, what's up with you, Barnacle?
Speaker 2: Is there anything in particularly called in to talk about?
Speaker 3: Dude? Okay, this is so wild. I have I called you.
Speaker 3: I'm not even like I have you as my contact,
Speaker 3: like as a contact in my phone. I have called
Speaker 3: you like three million times with like things to talk
Speaker 3: to you about, and like tonight I just called you
Speaker 3: randomly and You're like, hello, this is therapy echo And
Speaker 3: now I'm like okay, I no, yeah, no intentions like I.
Speaker 2: Will have Well, how about this, Well, the last time
Speaker 2: you called me and you had something you wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about, what was it?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, let me, you know, let me look
Speaker 3: at like what I've texted you.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 3: Uh, because I've done that, which I don't know does
Speaker 3: that actually work? Like the texting things?
Speaker 2: Let's see? You said?
Speaker 3: Uh, oh god, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Oh you want to talk about you want to talk
Speaker 2: about strip clubs? That's what you wrote.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. The amount of things I've like texted
Speaker 3: you is outrageous. Well, okay, I guess if that's the case, Uh,
Speaker 3: you should definitely go like you said, you like, you know,
Speaker 3: just floating around the world if you ever find yourself
Speaker 3: in Portland. The best strip club in Portland is Oh no,
Speaker 3: I'm like fucking forgetting it.
Speaker 1: What is it called?
Speaker 3: It's third They have steak there. They have steak and
Speaker 3: you can eat like and they raise the cows so
Speaker 3: you can like get this incredible steak acropolis. That's what it's.
Speaker 3: It's called okay okay, and you can literally yeah, you
Speaker 3: can literally like sit down and have a steak and
Speaker 3: get like a lap dance. It's like the best.
Speaker 2: That sounds cool.
Speaker 4: Do you go to strip clubs?
Speaker 3: Are you like into that?
Speaker 2: I've been to some strip clubs. There's a good shout
Speaker 2: out in Miami. There's an awesome strip club. It's called
Speaker 2: the gold Rush. I went there. I filled. I went
Speaker 2: there like to do like an event once and then
Speaker 2: I came back to like film something, and then I
Speaker 2: went with some people after a show in in uh
Speaker 2: let's see, maybe one or two three years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like strip clubs. I went, I did, like, I
Speaker 2: did some filming at a bunch of strip clubs in
Speaker 2: Portland like five years ago. But I just never released
Speaker 2: any of that stuff because it wasn't it was it
Speaker 2: wasn't that great because since we could really like film
Speaker 2: inside of the club. But but yeah, are do you
Speaker 2: You're not a stripper? Are you? Or are you just
Speaker 2: a fan?
Speaker 3: No? No? I actually like I really love strip clubs
Speaker 3: because people, you know, people really relaxed in there, like
Speaker 3: you can really learn a lot about people, like you know,
Speaker 3: like single serving friends kind of like on spit club,
Speaker 3: Like you go in there, sit down and like meet
Speaker 3: just random people that are in there. So like that
Speaker 3: night that I went into Acropolist, it's actually, this is
Speaker 3: so outrageous that we're talking about this right now, because
Speaker 3: it's been a while. It's been like three years since
Speaker 3: I've texted you that I was having like a family
Speaker 3: reunion at Comic Con in Portland. It was like me
Speaker 3: and my dad and my sister and my brother, and uh,
Speaker 3: we don't like get together often, like we're kind of
Speaker 3: a dysfunctional family, and so it was like a big deal,
Speaker 3: you know. And my sister and I ended up having
Speaker 3: a huge fight comic Con, and it was really embarrassing,
Speaker 3: like like yelling, like Spider Man was like staring at us,
Speaker 3: Like it was just so bad. And so I ended
Speaker 3: up like going back to the hotel and like grabbing
Speaker 3: a beer and was like you know what, fuck this shit,
Speaker 3: I'm going to the strip club. Like I'm gonna give
Speaker 3: some space to like my family and I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: go have a great time. And I had dated this
Speaker 3: girl for a bit who had told me about Acropolis
Speaker 3: in Portland that you could get like a really good
Speaker 3: steak in a laugh dance. And so I went there
Speaker 3: and met like immediately met this dude shout out Matt
Speaker 3: in Portland the Luther, who I don't have his number anymore,
Speaker 3: and I hope he's well. But anyway, sat down, start
Speaker 3: chatting to this dude. He his family was driving him crazy,
Speaker 3: My family was driving me crazy, and we ended up
Speaker 3: having just like the most old, the epic night and
Speaker 3: like just talking to strippers and just talking to random
Speaker 3: people in there, and yeah, I just love you know,
Speaker 3: I just love strip clubs because people just like they
Speaker 3: go there for a reason and they just chill the
Speaker 3: fuck out, you know, and I like I like to
Speaker 3: like talk to people and learn about them and just
Speaker 3: you know, raz you know, uh.
Speaker 2: Did you did you meet any particularly interesting people, whether
Speaker 2: strippers or clients that you remember?
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, Matt, Matt the Luther. He really stuck out
Speaker 3: to me because he was like, you know, do you
Speaker 3: ever like meet wild do you ever like meet someone
Speaker 3: and you're like instantly, like, man, we could be friends,
Speaker 3: or like we really vibe or like the connection. There's
Speaker 3: just like really good and the conversation flows and it's
Speaker 3: just like easy. It was like that, you know, it
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, it was like it was it was
Speaker 3: great to meet him. Uh. We talked to a lot
Speaker 3: of the strippers that were working there, and they were wonderful,
Speaker 3: like great people. But yeah, you know, I think like
Speaker 3: that was a great experience. There's also there was a
Speaker 3: strip club in a place called can I in Alaska,
Speaker 3: which is like it's like a really small town and
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't have a strip club. And you know, this
Speaker 3: is like years ago, but my friend's husband actually passed
Speaker 3: away and we ended up going to the strip club.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. It was grief is strange. We
Speaker 3: ended up going there and I had like the most philosophical,
Speaker 3: like crazy conversation with like a like an eighty year
Speaker 3: old dentist. There there was like a pregnant lady dancing
Speaker 3: and I was like just sitting there drinking while my
Speaker 3: other friends were drinking, and this guy was sitting next
Speaker 3: to me and we started talking about like death and
Speaker 3: what that means, and it was just like so ridiculous,
Speaker 3: and yeah.
Speaker 2: What did you what did you learn about what death means?
Speaker 2: That's one of your I'm looking through the things that
Speaker 2: you texted me, and I would love to try to
Speaker 2: I would love to chat about death and what that
Speaker 2: means is on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even remember like when I texted you
Speaker 3: that that must have been recent. Gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, death is so crazy. I used to work
Speaker 3: in the medical field for a very very long time,
Speaker 3: and I've actually had like people pass away like on
Speaker 3: my care or like I've seen people pass away. My
Speaker 3: mom passed away when I was twenty seven, and I've
Speaker 3: had various friends pass away and stuff. And I think
Speaker 3: it's so much more like maybe less personal than we think.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people like.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 3: Kind of like of course death is you know, death
Speaker 3: of a loved one is devastating. I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: downplay that, but uh, you know, I work in like
Speaker 3: biology now, and like I just feel like death is
Speaker 3: just so part of like the natural process. It's just
Speaker 3: like society art in our culture specifically like has it.
Speaker 3: We don't like know how to process or handle that.
Speaker 2: Well, what do you mean our when you say our
Speaker 2: culture specifically, do you mean like Americans?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I know you consider Alaskan Americans.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, well to that okay, well to that point
Speaker 2: where what what cultures do you think do have a
Speaker 2: better perspective?
Speaker 3: You know, that's a great question, you know. I think, uh,
Speaker 3: like the Philippine uh culture, like the Filatino culture. I
Speaker 3: think that like my friend, she's Filipinos. She was saying
Speaker 3: that they like spend time with the body and like,
Speaker 3: and I could be totally wrong. I could be totally wrong.
Speaker 3: This could just be her family. I'm not sure, but
Speaker 3: I know for a fact that there's like other cultures
Speaker 3: there in the world that like they spend time with
Speaker 3: the body. There's like you know, they'll have a body
Speaker 3: in the house for a long time, and visitors and
Speaker 3: like family can come and like spend time with you know,
Speaker 3: the deceased family member or loved one and there. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think all over the world they probably like handle
Speaker 3: death very differently. I think, like at least from what
Speaker 3: I've experienced, and just like in the medical field and
Speaker 3: just kind of like in general, uh, it's it's very
Speaker 3: much like hands off here, right, Like usually like somebody
Speaker 3: dies and then it's like they're kind of lists away
Speaker 3: and either put like in the ground or like cremated.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I guess it depends on like the
Speaker 3: family member and what they want. But have you ever
Speaker 3: thought about what you want when you die.
Speaker 2: I don't think I want the box. The box seems
Speaker 2: weird to me. Yeah, I'm thinking more. I'm thinking more ashes,
Speaker 2: you know, or I'll give my body the science. I
Speaker 2: don't really care. I don't really have a preference, do you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I definitely want to be like cremated. But
Speaker 3: you know what, I just found out you can be composted.
Speaker 3: Did you fucking know that? Like that?
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can be put well I guess it's a box. Well,
Speaker 3: but you could be put in a box and then composted,
Speaker 3: and then I guess your family members can like put
Speaker 3: you in a garden or something. So that's kind of interesting. Uh,
Speaker 3: But yeah, like it just seems weird to be put
Speaker 3: in like a graveyard and just kind of like put
Speaker 3: a plaque on you and then like you just kind
Speaker 3: of sit there and I don't know, decomposed. I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess it's it would be nice to go back
Speaker 3: to the earth, but I don't know. And then like
Speaker 3: people do weird things with ashes, right, They like put
Speaker 3: them in a box and then they never they just
Speaker 3: like you just stay in like a jar for the
Speaker 3: rest of your bone ashy life. I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I would want to be released. Hmmm, Like
Speaker 3: that would be weird to be in like a little jar, right.
Speaker 2: M I h I don't know. I feel like, uh,
Speaker 2: I just don't care at all, Like it doesn't like
Speaker 2: I'm not there anymore. I can't. I don't have an experience.
Speaker 2: I guess, like the people around me, right, like if
Speaker 2: I like, like if I have a kid, like if
Speaker 2: they're like if they're like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 2: see them in a in a weird whatever goodever my
Speaker 2: my family. I don't even want to burden my fan.
Speaker 2: Whatever is the least expensive, truthfully, whatever whatever, that's what
Speaker 2: I would do, Yes, I think whatever the least expensive
Speaker 2: option is, whatever the government is willing to pay for
Speaker 2: to get rid of the dead people that are in
Speaker 2: the place, That's what I'll do. Yeah, the funeral would
Speaker 2: be nice. I'd like a funeral, you know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: funeral will be cool. I mean I'm saying it's like
Speaker 2: like i'd like a funeral. I don't get to have
Speaker 2: a funeral, Like I'm not there, you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: not like a wedding, you know, I don't look at
Speaker 2: it as mine. It's for other people. If if enough
Speaker 2: people like me that they want to put together the funeral,
Speaker 2: then they can do that. But I think that uh,
Speaker 2: I think that that that's there are people who put
Speaker 2: to get put on their own funerals.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If I'm like seventy years so that I would probably
Speaker 2: putting on my own funeral.
Speaker 3: What would you be in your get costume in Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I mean, you know what, you know what?
Speaker 2: You know what? I don't know. I hope. I have
Speaker 2: no fucking idea what will be of the gecko by
Speaker 2: the time I die? But uh, throw a glove in there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the I don't I
Speaker 2: don't want my I don't want I don't want to. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it's uh. I actually I have this weird thing where
Speaker 2: like I don't like if, Okay, in my real life, uh,
Speaker 2: if somebody, if somebody I know in real life calls
Speaker 2: me gek, I really don't like that. But the opposite,
Speaker 2: I don't mind the opposite. I don't like if somebody
Speaker 2: who I've never met before that just listens to the podcast.
Speaker 2: If I meet them and they call me Lyle, I
Speaker 2: don't mind that at all. I I I find that.
Speaker 2: I think it's nice. Actually, well, I mean if they
Speaker 2: if somebody I've never met, if I'm wearing the Gecko costume.
Speaker 2: If I'm wearing the Gecko costume and somebody I've never
Speaker 2: met calls me Gek, I also find that nice. I like,
Speaker 2: I like Gek. But if like I'm just like hanging
Speaker 2: out with my homie and I'm and we're just like
Speaker 2: together and like and he calls me Gek, I'm like,
Speaker 2: why you call me Ghek? If I'm wearing the costume,
Speaker 2: it's different, you know. But like if I'm wearing the
Speaker 2: If I'm wearing the costume and some random person comes
Speaker 2: up to me, it's like Yo, Lyle, I'd be like, Yo,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 3: But like your friends calling is offensive? Like the people
Speaker 3: that are really like yo Gek, You're like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be a little weird. It's not. It's not offensive.
Speaker 2: It's just like strange to me.
Speaker 3: Hmm hmmm. That's interesting. It's kind of like living double
Speaker 3: double lives.
Speaker 2: Well, like if I get I don't know, like if
Speaker 2: like if if if mister Bean's wife called him mister bean,
Speaker 2: it'd be kind of weird, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3: It might be a kik You never know.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't mind being called gak, like you know
Speaker 2: when I'm I mean, I am. I like being called gek,
Speaker 2: But I guess it's just like if like my family
Speaker 2: does it, it feels feels kind of weird.
Speaker 3: You know, are you so ghak? Like speaking of I'm
Speaker 3: like really excited for you to come to Alaska. Are
Speaker 3: you gonna like bring your family up and like show
Speaker 3: them around? Do they travel?
Speaker 2: No, I'm do what does my family travel with me?
Speaker 2: Like does my mom travel?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or like yeah, or like, by the way, is
Speaker 3: like the coolest I.
Speaker 4: Listened to that Oh thank you that podcast you get
Speaker 4: because it was cool to see like or listen listen
Speaker 4: to you and your dad interact like that.
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, yeah, this is where this is
Speaker 3: where Yle gets it.
Speaker 2: Man, that is totally it is a percent where I
Speaker 2: get it from. Yeah, I'm glad you liked that episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah I like that one too, man, I like that
Speaker 2: one too. Yeah, my dad, my dad's the best. No, No,
Speaker 2: he doesn't travel with me my actually my my childhood
Speaker 2: best friend is going to come with me on this tour,
Speaker 2: which is nice normal normally. I I don't think he's
Speaker 2: going to come to Alaska though. I think I'm probably
Speaker 2: gonna go to Alaska. Not actually wait, par Nacle, I
Speaker 2: actually have a quite actually this I'm glad. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you brought this up so well. So I'm making I'm
Speaker 2: making uh uh these documentaries right like I made one
Speaker 2: in Iraq, I'm made in Ukraine. I want to make
Speaker 2: one in Alaska for sure. Do you have any suggestions where?
Speaker 2: Like what should I cover in Alaska?
Speaker 3: Y oh fuck? Yeah, okay, okay, I'm so excited right now. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm assuming you're going into you're doing your show
Speaker 3: and Anchorage.
Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, doing the.
Speaker 2: Show Anchorage in October. It's in October.
Speaker 3: October, Yeah, okay, I'm so excited. So October is like, uh,
Speaker 3: it's like fall time. It's starting to get pretty cold
Speaker 3: around then. Uh October, You're like coming in mid October,
Speaker 3: so like before Halloween. So it's yeah, it's getting kind
Speaker 3: of like kind of nasty around them. I definitely think, man,
Speaker 3: there's so much stuff in Alaska to do and places
Speaker 3: to see and things to do and all that. I
Speaker 3: would say, definitely go downtown and do interviews. Downtown. You'll
Speaker 3: meet like a wide variety of people. Actually, Like years ago,
Speaker 3: I called in and I talk to someone like on
Speaker 3: the phone line. He said he was your manager, and
Speaker 3: he said that you guys were trying to do Coots,
Speaker 3: Like there was a bar named Coots that you guys.
Speaker 2: Are must have been years.
Speaker 3: Ago, yeah, thousands of years which I think you should
Speaker 3: definitely go to KOTS.
Speaker 2: I think interviews doing Coots.
Speaker 3: You Okay, that's I think.
Speaker 2: I think I'm doing Coots. Yeah. How many people does
Speaker 2: that sit? Like one hundred.
Speaker 3: Fifty has like multiple bars inside of it, and so
Speaker 3: it just depends what section. I would, you know, not hundreds,
Speaker 3: not hundreds. I would say like maybe one hundred people,
Speaker 3: probably way less like sixty maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's it's that sounds good, bar, that sounds great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's perfect.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited for going to KOTS.
Speaker 3: I would say, like it would be cool for you
Speaker 3: to go to like Talkita. Cal Quina is like a
Speaker 3: real kooky, little whimsical town and there's a lot of
Speaker 3: really fun, strange, cool Alaskan people like essentially like the
Speaker 3: further you go out from anchorage, like the stranger and
Speaker 3: funnier and like wilder people are. I'm very biased. I'm
Speaker 3: from Homer, Alaska and so and Homer's like stunning.
Speaker 2: Now actually here here's well I was gonna say. What
Speaker 2: I'm thinking is like, I want to tell me if
Speaker 2: you can help me with this I want to do.
Speaker 2: I want to make a video called being a gecko
Speaker 2: on an Alaskan fishing boat, Like how do I like,
Speaker 2: how do I hang out? Like how do I hang
Speaker 2: out with like the depressed alcoholic uh fishermen? That's what
Speaker 2: I wanna I want to see.
Speaker 3: Easy, go Okay, you need to go Okay, you need
Speaker 3: to go to either Homer uh and hang out on
Speaker 3: the dock. You can go to you know, it's a
Speaker 3: great place.
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Actually you should definitely go to Juno. Juno's stunning. It's wonderful.
Speaker 3: I love it there. Go hang out on the docks.
Speaker 3: Talk to the fisherman. Definitely talk to the fishermen a
Speaker 3: lot of times. Okay, so I used to fisheries is
Speaker 3: like what uh fisheries is like I was in the
Speaker 3: medical field and now I'm going into fisheries, and uh
Speaker 3: I've done some like charter fishing myself, and like love
Speaker 3: like my whole life is like fishing, but really well
Speaker 3: kind of yeah, yeah, yes, I love fish. But like
Speaker 3: if you go down to the dock sometimes, like commercial
Speaker 3: fishers will like go up to the dock and they'll
Speaker 3: have like a sign like selling king crab or selling
Speaker 3: like dungeness crab or like you know here, like I
Speaker 3: would definitely recommend going up to them and a yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's fucking awesome, but also like interviewing them, and I.
Speaker 2: Really want to do that. I really want to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Alaskan fishermen are incredible, like they are they have
Speaker 3: the wildest stories. Yes, they are like incredible, hearty people.
Speaker 3: They are like the backbone of our economy up here,
Speaker 3: like they are so important and so wonderful, and I
Speaker 3: definitely recommend you talking to them, like they are in
Speaker 3: fantastic people.
Speaker 2: Yeah totally.
Speaker 3: And you know, I just think so, do you know, Homer,
Speaker 3: those are probably gonna be your like hubs for fishers
Speaker 3: for like cool, cool, crazy fun fishers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna forget about all this, but once, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it's being recorded, but well, now once I'm
Speaker 2: actually once, it's actually time to go down there and
Speaker 2: I have all my shit. Uh, I'll be ready, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, uh, if you want me to text
Speaker 3: you some suggestions, I'm happy to do that, or like.
Speaker 1: If you if.
Speaker 3: You need someone to show you around, like I'm super
Speaker 3: happy to. Like Alaska is huge, you could you could
Speaker 3: explore it for some time.
Speaker 2: Uh did you grow up in Alaska?
Speaker 3: Dude? Yeah, I grew up in Homer. Actually, Homer's like
Speaker 3: my stomping grounds, such an Anchorage.
Speaker 2: For like, did any part of you ever want to
Speaker 2: leave Alaska? You're Alaska for life.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think like every Alaskan when
Speaker 3: you're growing up here is like fuck Alaska, I'm moving
Speaker 3: to Portland or like I'm or I'm going to like
Speaker 3: travel and then you like get older and like either
Speaker 3: you do that or you don't. And for me, I
Speaker 3: like moved to Anchorage and I stay there for ten
Speaker 3: years and I did a little bit of traveling but
Speaker 3: not much. And now I'm like, I can't imagine living
Speaker 3: anywhere else. Like a lot of people will leave and
Speaker 3: then come back. A lot of my classmates have like
Speaker 3: moved back and like have families here now. Like Alaska's
Speaker 3: just so special and it's just not like anywhere else.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you're kind of right, like it
Speaker 3: is kind of removed in like a very different part
Speaker 3: of the world, but you know, it's just so special.
Speaker 3: I just I honestly can't imagine living anywhere else. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I like, yeah, I've been here a long time. Uh.
Speaker 3: That being said, like I really admire the traveling that
Speaker 3: you do, first off, and like in this next phase
Speaker 3: in my life, like traveling is like going to be
Speaker 3: my priority. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, where what are you trying to? Where are
Speaker 2: you trying to go? What are you trying to do?
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I just like, you know, sometimes I
Speaker 3: imagine like buying a buying a van and like just
Speaker 3: traveling around the US seeing a bunch of stuff there.
Speaker 3: I definitely I've been to Japan. My brother lived there
Speaker 3: for in Hiroshima for a bit, so I went over there.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: I'm super excited about that at Japan. So fun. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to just snowboard and like dirt bike and
Speaker 3: camp and like hunt a fish and like hike and
Speaker 3: just do a bike and skiing and just do like
Speaker 3: all that everywhere as much as I can, you know,
Speaker 3: mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Is like I've heard I mean, I've heard this.
Speaker 2: I've heard that the that like in the winters there's
Speaker 2: like a couple hours of daylight at best for like months.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, watch like your you're kind of you're kind
Speaker 3: of nerdy. How did you ever watch that like vampire movie,
Speaker 3: like Thirty Days and Night?
Speaker 2: Mean, what makes you what makes you say I'm kind
Speaker 2: of nerdy? Not not by the way, By the way,
Speaker 2: by the way, I am, I am, but I don't
Speaker 2: feel I'm not really I'm not like nerdy for like
Speaker 2: I'm not really nerdy for like movies and TV shows
Speaker 2: who things like that. I don't really watch movies or TV.
Speaker 2: I'm like nerdy about like video games, yeah.
Speaker 3: Which yeah I love that. Yeah, I love like yeah
Speaker 3: Mario Karr and shit. But like, you know, that's actually
Speaker 3: surprising because like you went to school for film, right,
Speaker 3: and you're kind of like, I mean, you're doing like
Speaker 3: the film stuff, So that's kind of surprising that you're
Speaker 3: like not nerdy about like film and movies, and yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like.
Speaker 2: I've I've always been like that. I I'm mainly I mean,
Speaker 2: I like to make stuff, but I don't really Uh,
Speaker 2: I have too much ADHD. That's why I'm in the
Speaker 2: video games, is all the ADHD. I have too much
Speaker 2: ADHD to like sit down and watch a movie, you know, m.
Speaker 3: It's more engaging. I feel like it's it's it takes
Speaker 3: more brain power to like sit down and play a game,
Speaker 3: and it's so much more like creative than like watching
Speaker 3: a movie, you know.
Speaker 2: M hmm, Okay, wait, what's this vampire thing you were
Speaker 2: gonna tell me?
Speaker 3: Oh? Oh yeah, sorry, I got de realed.
Speaker 2: I uh.
Speaker 3: It was a reference to a comic about Alaka Thirty
Speaker 3: Days a Night. Anyway, Yes, the winters are very dark,
Speaker 3: and you know, the older I get, like, it's like
Speaker 3: it's kind of like this while like you wake up
Speaker 3: to go to work, you go to work, or like
Speaker 3: you wake up and it's fucking dark. It's like pitch black.
Speaker 3: You go to work, you kind of peek your head out,
Speaker 3: it's like, yeh, it's like kind of light outside. And
Speaker 3: then you get off work and.
Speaker 1: It's pitch black.
Speaker 3: And so it's like you have to you have to
Speaker 3: go outside, like you have to, you have to be active,
Speaker 3: you have to have a community, You have to like
Speaker 3: take care of yourself in the wintertime here because like
Speaker 3: people will get like vitamin D deficient or you know,
Speaker 3: they'll herm it up and get isolated and it's just
Speaker 3: like not good for you. So a lot I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people up here, they're just like pretty active,
Speaker 3: Like can you is really important up here. The older
Speaker 3: I get, the more I'm noticing like that darkness is
Speaker 3: like it gets pretty heavy around December, and that's like
Speaker 3: pretty tough, especially like when I was growing up in Alaska,
Speaker 3: there was always like so much snow. Like as a kid,
Speaker 3: you know, Halloween time, you couldn't even tell like what
Speaker 3: fucking costume you were wearing because you were wearing a
Speaker 3: fucking snowsuit over it because there's so much snow, you know.
Speaker 3: And now there's not really a lot of snow up here,
Speaker 3: like in October December, so like when it's dark like
Speaker 3: that and there's not a lot of snow, it's like
Speaker 3: kind of dreary and like it's draining a bit. Uh So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's Toscac, like it's not, it's not easy. And then
Speaker 3: it's like weird when I do go to the lower
Speaker 3: forty eight uh, and it's like gets dark at like seven,
Speaker 3: but there's like all this light. It's like it's like
Speaker 3: very biz. It feels like being in a different world.
Speaker 3: And then in the summertime it's like the opposite. It's
Speaker 3: like light twenty four fucking seven. It's like constantly bright.
Speaker 3: And so I feel like m Alaskans will be out
Speaker 3: like mowing their lawna like midnight is like doing wonky stuff,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: But that's that's that Okay, So that part sounds but
Speaker 2: the eternal darkness sounds awful, but the eternal light sounds cool.
Speaker 2: I like that idea, Like, yeah, just endless day, you would.
Speaker 3: Like be mowing your lawn at like midnight, you would
Speaker 3: be you would be active.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean how long is the like Okay, So
Speaker 2: is it literally like fully light out at midnight?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes, they call it like the Land of the Midnight Sun. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like like, for instance, you know, like fishing is like
Speaker 3: way important up here, and so like a lot of fishers,
Speaker 3: like people that are sport fishers or fishers like will
Speaker 3: go fishing at like fucking midnight, dude, and like everybody's
Speaker 3: out there, Like nothing is better than like being out
Speaker 3: on a river or like in the ocean and you're
Speaker 3: just like throwing a hook. It's like midnight. There's like
Speaker 3: people in the water with you, like yelling about like
Speaker 3: catching their fish, and it's just like it's just like
Speaker 3: such a great feeling. Yeah, it's wonderful, But you're in October,
Speaker 3: which is kind of like the in between, which is tough.
Speaker 3: I wish you were going to be here like in
Speaker 3: the summertime.
Speaker 2: Well, Barnacle, it was nice talking about Alaska with you.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely I'm more excited there to come and I are.
Speaker 2: I appreciate and you've made me excited because I appreciate
Speaker 2: that people will be there. Get tickets at Therapy Tour
Speaker 2: dot com. Therapy Get go Tour dot com. Uh, Barnacle,
Speaker 2: is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if you put your mind to it,
Speaker 3: if you're creative enough, if you're flexible, and if you're
Speaker 3: willing to work heart at it, you can do it
Speaker 3: like anything you want, you can do it. Beautiful, it
Speaker 3: looks like awesome, talking with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you great, talk to you too. I'll see you
Speaker 2: in Alaska.
Speaker 3: Yeahw trout see you later.
Speaker 2: Beautiful Alaska, What a beautiful city. Hello? Hello, what's up man?
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 1: Hey? Gag?
Speaker 2: This is Liam, Liam, Liam Neisson.
Speaker 1: I know a guy I wish that you want that.
Speaker 1: This is Liam Neeson Lee.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's the only Liam Neeson I know. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: the taken guy. Go ahead, name a guy, Name a guy,
Speaker 2: just name anyone. Doesn't have to be a Liam. Just
Speaker 2: named someone. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's that one other actor. I think
Speaker 1: he's Australian.
Speaker 2: I've do three times now. I've tried to open a
Speaker 2: call asking to call her to name somebody, and they
Speaker 2: can't do it. They can't name anyone. Didn't even be
Speaker 2: a famous person.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't really think of other Liams
Speaker 1: too much. I've only met a couple others, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you didn't. It's never never mind, never mind,
Speaker 2: forget it for I'm gonna stop doing this because I
Speaker 2: don't think. Hold on.
Speaker 1: Maybe next time, maybe next time, maybe.
Speaker 2: The next person, well you know who cares? Who cares
Speaker 2: about anything? Liam?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Would you want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Today, I wanted to talk about work stuff. I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just like worried about if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get a job.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, what's in?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: In what field?
Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking cooked? Computer science?
Speaker 2: Oh ship, Yeah, it's super cood. It's super cooked. It's
Speaker 2: super cooked. Wait a minute, I'm looking at the text
Speaker 2: that you've sent me, and it said you sent me
Speaker 2: a text. You sent me a text four months ago
Speaker 2: and you said, gek, I'm currently being fought over professionally,
Speaker 2: and I'm unsure how to go about things. Wait, so
Speaker 2: how did you go from being fought over to not
Speaker 2: being able to find a job.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so right now, I'm I'm self employed as
Speaker 1: as a DJ, and I work for a couple of
Speaker 1: companies and I do my own stuff as well, and
Speaker 1: I'm also going to school for computer science.
Speaker 2: Okay, so how were you being fought over? As the DJ?
Speaker 1: So I work. I work for one company mainly, they're
Speaker 1: one of the bigger companies in the city I live in,
Speaker 1: and they contract me for stuff and it's more of
Speaker 1: like it's not really a day. It's a guy I
Speaker 1: work for it's like it's his company, right, Like we
Speaker 1: built a relationship and one of the other bigger companies
Speaker 1: in the city that does DJ stuff, they reached out
Speaker 1: to me to try to get me to do some
Speaker 1: work for them, and like I wasn't gonna switch over
Speaker 1: completely doing stuff for them, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I got to keep my lights on kind of thing.
Speaker 1: More work the merrier m hm.
Speaker 3: And uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The guys from the from the from the second
Speaker 1: company that reached out to me, they had me like
Speaker 1: they like sent some message to a group chat I
Speaker 1: was in, saying some shit like it like if it's
Speaker 1: like more of like a message out to all the
Speaker 1: DJs that were in this chat, and they were like,
Speaker 1: if you want to continue to work with us, you
Speaker 1: got to come to this photoshoot that we're doing, have
Speaker 1: like headshots taken. And I'm like, okay, cool, I mean
Speaker 1: like whatever, So I go to this photo shoot and
Speaker 1: mind you, at this point, I hadn't even done any
Speaker 1: work for them at this point, like I was already
Speaker 1: fully booked because it was like they got me into
Speaker 1: this group chat during like peak wedding season, which is
Speaker 1: during the summer.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: So I go to this photo shoot and I get
Speaker 1: like a photo taken with with their staff and stuff,
Speaker 1: and they posted on their story. And then the guy
Speaker 1: I've been working with from company a uh he like
Speaker 1: calls me the next morning. He's like, hey, man, are
Speaker 1: we are we cool? Like do you need more money?
Speaker 1: Like are you like unhappy with your pay? And I'm
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, no no no. So I
Speaker 1: don't know they had a They talk to each other
Speaker 1: because like they're friendly, you know, like they work in
Speaker 1: the same industry, so they know each other, and I
Speaker 1: guess they chatted it out. I don't know. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to like two man, but
Speaker 1: like I feel like I've been a little bit of
Speaker 1: a hot shot over the past couple of years in
Speaker 1: the scene, and it's like there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: just kind of gunning for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so then why can't you Why are you
Speaker 2: unable to do that for a living?
Speaker 1: Well, I am doing it as for a living right now.
Speaker 2: Oh so why are you looking for a job.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not like currently looking for a job. I'm
Speaker 1: more of just worried, like when I graduate, if I'm
Speaker 1: going to be lead a job at computer science?
Speaker 2: Are you graduat? Where are you so in college?
Speaker 1: University? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, wait university? Where are you Canadian?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I am okay. Well, uh, why don't you just keep
Speaker 2: doing the DJ thing? Why don't you focus on that
Speaker 2: instead of worry about whether or not you'll get a
Speaker 2: I mean, you already had. Why Why do you Why
Speaker 2: Why are you worried about whether or not you'll be
Speaker 2: able to make money doing something else when you're already
Speaker 2: making money doing something that you're doing right now, when
Speaker 2: he's focus on what you're doing right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. It's more of just like long
Speaker 1: term security. I guess there's.
Speaker 2: No such thing as long security. There's no such thing
Speaker 2: as long term security. Everyone who worked for fucking like
Speaker 2: Google and like all these big big tech companies that
Speaker 2: are like replacing their people with AI, like they all
Speaker 2: thought they had jobs security. Job security is not real life.
Speaker 2: Security is not really you could get you could die tomorrow.
Speaker 2: There's not like security is not a real thing. It's
Speaker 2: an illusion of like trying to grasp onto a ever
Speaker 2: evasive life that counts down its days. I'm getting existential
Speaker 2: on you here. But it's like there's there's not really.
Speaker 2: I mean people get people thought so many people thought
Speaker 2: they had job security and then they just got like canned.
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're at the I mean companies right,
Speaker 2: Like it's like saying that, uh, I mean, the world
Speaker 2: has no security. We just went to fucking war and
Speaker 2: then that tank the stock market and then companies are like,
Speaker 2: fuck the stocks are gone, we gotta make cuts, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like there's no there's no anything.
Speaker 2: The world does not exist. Sorry, I don't this rant
Speaker 2: has gone on too far, but.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, right, Yeah, I know what
Speaker 1: you mean. I know what you mean. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I still like want to do computer science stuff.
Speaker 1: Like I grew up kind of being like techy and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I always found like a lot of interest in it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like all the shit that they have
Speaker 2: right now is like you're like propt engineers, whatever the
Speaker 2: fuck that means.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I don't know if that just sounds
Speaker 1: like a sham. Yeah, I don't think like real software
Speaker 1: engineers are like going to be going anywhere. It's just
Speaker 1: the way I look at it is. Over time and history,
Speaker 1: there's been lots of shifts in technology I mean, I
Speaker 1: always give the agriculture example. You know, during the Industrial Revolution,
Speaker 1: you know, they came out with the butt like before
Speaker 1: people mostly most people lived on farms and they worked
Speaker 1: for farms and homesteads and stuff. And when new farming
Speaker 1: technologies came out. If you if you owned a farm
Speaker 1: and ran a farm and you didn't kind of adapt
Speaker 1: to the new technologies, you were kind of well, you
Speaker 1: were out. Most people moved to cities because new job
Speaker 1: opportunities were there. And that's the way mek at it.
Speaker 2: It's let me ask you this, Why are you popping
Speaker 2: off so much as a DJ?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I mean, I've just been
Speaker 1: fucking I practice practice a lot, and I love music.
Speaker 2: Okay, And so people are connecting with your music.
Speaker 1: I guess so, and I don't. I don't really make music.
Speaker 3: I just play it.
Speaker 2: You don't make music, you just play it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not like a producer, okay.
Speaker 2: So you go up there and you hit play on
Speaker 2: a Spotify playlist.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, not a Spotify like I got. I have
Speaker 1: like thousands of tracks I have downloaded, and I'm curating
Speaker 1: a mix like lies. I'm picking what songs to play
Speaker 1: in the moment, taking requests if I tick requests.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you don't make music, you're like you're like
Speaker 2: a wedding DJ type of thing.
Speaker 1: I do weddings, I do corporate parties, I do bars
Speaker 1: club Oh okay, okay, right, like right now is not
Speaker 1: in a wedding season.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you got a good dude, you got a
Speaker 2: good You got a good business on your hands. Why
Speaker 2: don't you just keep going with that?
Speaker 3: Let' see?
Speaker 1: I mean it's going on, right, I mean, okay, long
Speaker 1: term plan because like really there's two paths to go
Speaker 1: in that. In that route, either there's there's the public
Speaker 1: sector and the private sector. As a way to look
Speaker 1: at it, public sector is like bars, clubs and festivals,
Speaker 1: Like that's like a huge ship, right, Like that's like
Speaker 1: your David Ghetta, is your skivaic or are Ski Bayoki
Speaker 1: or whatever? Right, And then there's the private sector, which
Speaker 1: is like private events, weddings, stuff like that. To make
Speaker 1: it in the public sector, and like festivals, you got it,
Speaker 1: you have to make music. That's the only way you
Speaker 1: get booked at festivals really is you make music or
Speaker 1: you blow up on like TikTok. The private sector. You know,
Speaker 1: you can work for companies, but to really make the
Speaker 1: big bucks in the private sector is you have to
Speaker 1: start your own company and then hire people under you
Speaker 1: just start like you get too busy, right, and then
Speaker 1: you start subcontracting. M hmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, And you sound like you know a lot about that.
Speaker 2: But you sound like you know a lot about this.
Speaker 2: You sound like you've been researching it, you've been thinking
Speaker 2: about it. Why don't you just go on that route?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going down it like I was about to
Speaker 1: get to it, like long term plan. I'm gonna do that, right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the point where I'm too busy
Speaker 1: and I can subcontract and then my day job during
Speaker 1: the weekdays will be coding, you know, because I can't
Speaker 1: DJ every day in the week. It's it's a weekend gig.
Speaker 2: I don't most But how that that doesn't make any
Speaker 2: sense to me. If you're too busy, it means you
Speaker 2: have too much work in the DJ So why would
Speaker 2: you even why would you need to code?
Speaker 1: There's only so many days in the weekend. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: there's only so many days in the weekend. You know.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, like I have for the month of
Speaker 1: June sixteen brides contact me. There's only eight weekend nights,
Speaker 1: you know, Fridays and Saturdays in June. You know, I
Speaker 1: can do half of those, but I can't do all
Speaker 1: of them. But if I subcontract the other half and
Speaker 1: I take a cut, I'm still making some money off
Speaker 1: of that, and the other guy is making some money
Speaker 1: off of it.
Speaker 2: Two that makes sense, you know, I don't know. Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know. I mean right now, I'm I'm taking a
Speaker 1: break from school right now. Like this winter turm, I
Speaker 1: took off just because, like it was, I was working
Speaker 1: too much when I was flowing behind in my classes
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I feel like I just needed some
Speaker 1: time to figure out what I was doing. I was
Speaker 1: like half thinking of switching my minor and major rounds.
Speaker 1: I'm taking psychology as a minor, and I'm also going
Speaker 1: to switching that around and doing psychology as a major.
Speaker 1: But you know, as I had time to fucking just
Speaker 1: some time on myself and do some projects on my
Speaker 1: own time and kind of rekindle my love for computer science,
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this is what I wanted to do
Speaker 1: in the first was. You know, it's not really just
Speaker 1: a dollar amount the end of the day. It's more
Speaker 1: like this is this is the ship I really like.
Speaker 2: Doing the technology stuff. Well yeah mm hmmm, I like okay,
Speaker 2: So I don't I mean, I don't really know what
Speaker 2: the landscape of all this stuff looks like. Now. It
Speaker 2: looks like it's very like AI heavy, Like, is there
Speaker 2: still a way for you to for you to sneak
Speaker 2: in there amongst all of that?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to leverage AI. You know, it's I
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but if I don't, it's there
Speaker 1: won't be a job for me. And whether that means
Speaker 1: doing it in like working for a company sense or
Speaker 1: freelance sense, I'm totally open to both. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been doing this DJ stuff freelance for
Speaker 1: two or three years now, and like I'm not like
Speaker 1: I'm a stranger to it. It's like when announce business. Essentially, dude,
Speaker 1: how old are you, like twenty I turned twenty one
Speaker 1: in May.
Speaker 2: You're you're doing great, man, you know, don't don't listen.
Speaker 2: I don't freak out, you know, honestly, I don't think
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to be freaking out man,
Speaker 2: Like you'll be You'll be fine. You know how to
Speaker 2: do shit. That's let me tell you something. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you something. What's your name again?
Speaker 1: Looks okay? Liam?
Speaker 2: Liam? Listen? Liam, uh listen. There's there's here's the thing.
Speaker 2: There's a probably like the job market is tough, but
Speaker 2: I do believe that like people who just kind of
Speaker 2: like know how to do shit and like know how
Speaker 2: to like competently exist will inevitably figure out a way
Speaker 2: to like do well in this life. And you strike
Speaker 2: me as one of those people. So I'm not particularly
Speaker 2: worried about you.
Speaker 1: That's thank you get.
Speaker 2: Of course, I don't know. I mean, you're doing you're doing,
Speaker 2: You're doing, like dude, you're fucking twenty, you're running your
Speaker 2: own business. You're like I can tell like Liam, listen, man,
Speaker 2: some people are fucking stupid. Some people are just fucking
Speaker 2: just kind of fucking stupid. Well, that's the problem. That's
Speaker 2: the big things. Like society has a lot of problems,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of difficulties to it, and and
Speaker 2: and some people have to deal with both that and
Speaker 2: being a little stupid. And I'm and and I'm actually
Speaker 2: i feel like I'm actually pretty good at determining whether
Speaker 2: or not I think someone is kind of stupid or
Speaker 2: whether I think they're smart competent human being. And you
Speaker 2: strike me as a smart competent human being. Again, I'm
Speaker 2: really not I'm really not worried about you. I think
Speaker 2: you canna be okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. There's there's pressure that comes with that.
Speaker 1: Like I growing up with my parents, my family, I
Speaker 1: was always kind of like seeen as that way. I
Speaker 1: mean like literally on my mom's side of the family,
Speaker 1: they like they dubbed me the fucking car salesman of
Speaker 1: the family because I was like selling shit when I
Speaker 1: was like little. I don't know, And it's like there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of like expectations behind like how well
Speaker 1: I do well?
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're it's like you're setting these expectations
Speaker 2: for yourself, and it's like what do you wanna what
Speaker 2: do you want to? Like what do you what do
Speaker 2: you what expectations do you have for yourself? Like what
Speaker 2: do you want to accomplish? Right? Like you wanna do
Speaker 2: these businesses? You want to work in tech? Like you know,
Speaker 2: I don't really I don't really have advice for you.
Speaker 2: I just think that like you'll figure it out. I
Speaker 2: just from talking to you for fifteen minutes, you seem
Speaker 2: like a smart guy. I think you'll figure it out
Speaker 2: whether or not, like I mean, people are also finding
Speaker 2: ways to it. And also you're an optimistic guy, like
Speaker 2: some people you know kind of are like oh, like
Speaker 2: like were doomed and you know, all to say, I
Speaker 2: shit is gonna destroy society and it'll have its effects.
Speaker 2: Of course everything will. But you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: just the fact that you're maintaining some semblance of optimism
Speaker 2: and you see them competent, like you know, don't take
Speaker 2: my word for it, like still do shit. I know
Speaker 2: you're gonna do it anyway, but you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: That's that's true, gick, That's true. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've just been taking like this this this past while
Speaker 1: with winters because like I'm taking this winter term off
Speaker 1: because I feel like I haven't really got like given
Speaker 1: myself a break at all. Like I like I went
Speaker 1: into university straight out of high school, and I was
Speaker 1: working like two jobs at the same time, like and
Speaker 1: then I just kind of got burnt out even during
Speaker 1: the summers, like I wouldn't give myself a break, I'd
Speaker 1: still be going to school summer school and working mm hmmuck.
Speaker 1: Like March of last year was like the busiest time
Speaker 1: I'd ever had. I was working two part time jobs
Speaker 1: djang like do my freelance stuff, going to school full time,
Speaker 1: and I had an internship. Like I literally don't know
Speaker 1: how I didn't like die.
Speaker 2: What's your name again? Liam?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Liam? Take it easy on yourself, man.
Speaker 1: I get told that a lot. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: I've been trying to think a little bit, a little
Speaker 1: bit more easy. I've been playing some more games. I
Speaker 1: just played a lot of games, and I've just been
Speaker 1: trying to get back into it.
Speaker 2: Mhm, where can we find your DJing stuff?
Speaker 1: It's I don't know if I should be saying this
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I mean, if if you want me to.
Speaker 2: I can. Yeah, if you want to, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: It's uh Liam Roman, but the Roman is spelt like
Speaker 1: r O A M and so it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a play on words, like a lea.
Speaker 2: Okay, because you're roaming around. I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a mobile DJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. Okay, Well I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look I'm gonna look at your Instagram. Right now, Rome,
Speaker 2: say it one more.
Speaker 1: Time, Liam Roman, So r O A m n it's
Speaker 1: all together.
Speaker 2: R O A m Oh there he is. Oh look
Speaker 2: at this guy. Look at this fucking guy. You'll be fine, dude, dude.
Speaker 2: Look at this black and white photo of you with
Speaker 2: the tattoo and ship.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Look at this guy. Dude. You'll be fine. Man, don't
Speaker 2: worry about yourself. You'll be fucking fine. Thursday. Remember every
Speaker 2: every Thursday you play the Buckingham.
Speaker 1: That's true, every Thursday, and then it's Thursdays. It's Thursdays,
Speaker 1: not every Thursday. I played this Thursday, though.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between Thursdays and every Thursday? Well, Thursday.
Speaker 2: When you say I, When you say I play Thursdays,
Speaker 2: that I that means all Thursdays in the universe.
Speaker 1: Verse to me, When I say I played Thursdays, it
Speaker 1: means that I don't. I played other places on the
Speaker 1: weekends than when they have me play there. It's just
Speaker 1: on Thursdays usually.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then on Fridays and Saturdays you play these places.
Speaker 1: Yep, you've got a good Saturday.
Speaker 2: But do you get a good life?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Why are you meeting a lot of people you're having
Speaker 2: a good time.
Speaker 1: It's been fun. Things are picking up, which is pretty
Speaker 1: good recently. Like I've only been doing bars and clubs
Speaker 1: for like a year now.
Speaker 2: I can tell you're going to be successful because when
Speaker 2: people have success, successful people have this thing. I have
Speaker 2: this thing too, uh where it's like they're they're living
Speaker 2: really cool lives and they just hate them, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I have a friend, not that not that, not
Speaker 2: that they hate them, not that they hate them, but
Speaker 2: they're over them. Like I have a I have a friend.
Speaker 2: I have a friend who's like a successful comedian and
Speaker 2: like he opens for comedian and who do like like
Speaker 2: arenas and stuff, and like I'll give him a call.
Speaker 2: He'll like do an arena or something, and like I'll
Speaker 2: call him, like how did the set go? And he'd
Speaker 2: be like as fine as whatever. You know, I think
Speaker 2: I kind of sucked. I'm like, you're fucking doing a
Speaker 2: fucking cool thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know, enjoy your life. I mean,
Speaker 2: enjoy your life, but keep keep doing it. Look at
Speaker 2: this guy every thursdays. Look you got a guy eating
Speaker 2: a burger on here. DJ Roman All right, I got it.
Speaker 2: Next time I'm in Edmonton. I'll come through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually you were in Edmonton recently.
Speaker 2: Did you see the show?
Speaker 4: You were?
Speaker 2: You were at the show A fuck with you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 1: When I picked a photo with you, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can I text this photo to you? Man?
Speaker 2: It was Yeah.
Speaker 1: Text was such a wick that call for me. Wow,
Speaker 1: uh what's this? What's this number on? I can text it?
Speaker 1: Just give me one second, heir?
Speaker 2: Why was it a wake up call for you?
Speaker 1: For my hair? For my fucking hairline? It was such
Speaker 1: a wake up call because like, looking at these photos
Speaker 1: now going back, it's like, oh my god, my fucking
Speaker 1: hair in the front looks so thin that if you're
Speaker 1: like looking at the photo, it looks like I don't
Speaker 1: even have hair on the front. And that's like that's
Speaker 1: scary as a twenty year old that like I'm losing
Speaker 1: my hairline. Like my at this age, my dad was
Speaker 1: like full little peaked bald.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. When you're like a bald. By the
Speaker 2: way I'm looking at your Instagram, you're you're kind of
Speaker 2: you're a little ripped, dude.
Speaker 1: I might look a little ripped, but like, okay, it's
Speaker 1: like a year.
Speaker 2: Ago, Liam get Liam Get the fuck over yourself. You're
Speaker 2: a little ripped, you're a handsome guy, You're a successful DJ,
Speaker 2: and enjoy who you and joy. Can you do me
Speaker 2: a favor?
Speaker 1: Liam?
Speaker 2: Can you do me a favor for one day? For
Speaker 2: one day? Can you just enjoy being Liam Roman? Can
Speaker 2: you just enjoy being Liam Roman for one day? Can
Speaker 2: you do that for me? Can you enjoy being a
Speaker 2: young ripped DJ guy for one day? Just one day?
Speaker 2: One day? One day? Just okay, this this coming Thursday
Speaker 2: at the buck on White, this coming Thursday, can you
Speaker 2: just while you're doing your set, just be like, I'm
Speaker 2: a young, hot, ripped DJ guy living my best life.
Speaker 2: I'm making money. This is cool. Can you just enjoy
Speaker 2: just one day? Do it for one day and then
Speaker 2: go back to, you know, being an anxious mess. But
Speaker 2: just I'll do the same thing. I'll enjoy I'll try
Speaker 2: to enjoy my life for one day, and then I'll
Speaker 2: go back to being an anxious mess. Just well, let's
Speaker 2: each take a Thursday to just enjoy our life and
Speaker 2: then we can return to the regularly scheduled anxiety afterwards. Okay, Liam,
Speaker 2: is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people the computer before we go.
Speaker 1: In a pleasure. Gek. If you're ever in Edmonton, let
Speaker 1: me know. I will treat you well.
Speaker 2: Thank you man.
Speaker 1: The last time you were here, I remember you talking
Speaker 1: about you were talking about how you fucking you didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do here besides the mall, which is
Speaker 1: partly true. There's all the stuff to do. We gotta look.
Speaker 2: Well, we had a good time in Edmonton. We went
Speaker 2: to the we got some poutine, we went to the mall.
Speaker 2: It was a good time. Yeah, beautiful, have a good
Speaker 2: rest of your life. Liam, I'll talk. I'll see you
Speaker 2: around the universe.
Speaker 1: All right, see you Gek later.
Speaker 2: Liam. Hey, folks, what's up. It's Lyle and I am
Speaker 2: here because I am going to end today's little episode
Speaker 2: with a segment that many of you know that I
Speaker 2: know for sure. It's called gek mail. It's called a
Speaker 2: gek mail. It's a segment where I read a piece
Speaker 2: of mail. Maybe i'll even read two. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't promise anything. I know for sure i'll read one.
Speaker 2: But uh, I'm gonna read some mail that people have
Speaker 2: emailed me. Listeners of the podcast, people have emailed me,
Speaker 2: mail mailed me, mail to therapy geckomail at gmail dot com,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna read some of this email and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna ponder on it. So let's read this. I've one
Speaker 2: pulled up. This subject line is Dear Ghek Daddy. I
Speaker 2: am an archaeologist. It's from a gentleman named Billy Uh.
Speaker 2: Hello Gek Daddy. I'm writing for many reasons and none
Speaker 2: at all. At the same time, I have trouble deciding
Speaker 2: what to even talk to you about, seeing as your
Speaker 2: infinite green scaly wisdom would be invaluable for a myriad
Speaker 2: of subjects. I wanted to talk about my first job.
Speaker 2: I am in my early twenties and I've been working
Speaker 2: professionally as an archaeologist for four years now. People always
Speaker 2: ask me if I look for dinosaurs or treasure, and
Speaker 2: that is simply not what I do. I knew people
Speaker 2: did not fully understand this job when I began, but
Speaker 2: I think the world deserves to know and care that
Speaker 2: this field about what this field actually does. I should
Speaker 2: state outright that I really do love my job. I
Speaker 2: have amazing bosses and co workers. I get to go
Speaker 2: to weird places and meet weird people, and every day
Speaker 2: is different from the last. Despite this, it can be
Speaker 2: quite emotionally taxing. Archaeologists deal exclusively with humans, not dinosaurs
Speaker 2: or treasure. My job is to survey and record places
Speaker 2: where people have been doing random peoply things throughout history.
Speaker 2: While this can be very cool, it is also a
Speaker 2: bit sad. My job usually involves trying to record sites
Speaker 2: that are going to be destroyed or at least heavily
Speaker 2: disturbed by modern development. It can be really difficult working
Speaker 2: on a five thousand year old site that you know
Speaker 2: is going to be covered in a parking lot some
Speaker 2: rich assholes forth home. So many people see us as
Speaker 2: hassles and the assholes who hold up developments of areas.
Speaker 2: And while our presence does slow things down, we don't
Speaker 2: do it for fun or to get rich parentheses. This
Speaker 2: job does not pay very well. We are only there
Speaker 2: to try and preserve what we can and make sure
Speaker 2: irreplaceable pieces of past people's lives aren't lost forever. Furthermore,
Speaker 2: because I am in North America, this is often a
Speaker 2: painful continuation of the erasure of indigenous history and culture.
Speaker 2: I am not a tribal member and do not have
Speaker 2: any Indigenous North American heritage, but I feel like I
Speaker 2: have some responsibility to attempt to slow the destruction of
Speaker 2: the heritage of an already marginalized people. I love my job,
Speaker 2: but it can be very emotionally draining. I am also
Speaker 2: so grateful to have the opportunity to interact so intimately
Speaker 2: with the lives of people who lived so long ago.
Speaker 2: And I will not lie that finding something in the
Speaker 2: field that was last held hundreds or thousands of years
Speaker 2: ago is an incredibly special feeling, but it is always
Speaker 2: tinted with sadness. I want to do what I can
Speaker 2: to help preserve the past. Thank you for taking the
Speaker 2: time to read this. Mister Ghek. We can call on
Speaker 2: the telephone sometime and I can tell you about the
Speaker 2: time I saw an eclipse high on mushrooms on top
Speaker 2: of a lighthouse and had to run from the coastguard
Speaker 2: and a canoe. Stay positive test negative, Billy, Well, that
Speaker 2: was actually a very beautiful email. Yeah, that was really nice.
Speaker 2: Uh that must be that would give me a big
Speaker 2: existential crisis. I feel like thinking about, like, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing like people's bones from five thousand years ago. You know,
Speaker 2: Actually it's funny because I always assume like archaeologists and
Speaker 2: like history folks on likes like space stuff, where it's
Speaker 2: like is that government funded or are there are these
Speaker 2: like private rich folks who like pay for the preservation
Speaker 2: of the sites, and it's like, uh, rich folks who
Speaker 2: want to preserve the bones versus rich folks who want
Speaker 2: them to be be destroyed so they can make parking lots.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious about that. I might have to give
Speaker 2: you a call sometime. Billy. Thank you for sharing and
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for your work as a great
Speaker 2: archaeologist of the universe. Okay, we'll do one more. This
Speaker 2: is from Matthew. Subject line, I think you're a scaly
Speaker 2: and not a furry. Hi Gek. I'm currently watching my
Speaker 2: girlfriend shave her legs in the sink of a Motel
Speaker 2: six and it made me think of you. That's a
Speaker 2: great way to start the email. You've said explicitly before
Speaker 2: that you're not a furry or a part of the
Speaker 2: furry fandom, but that putting on a gecko costume and
Speaker 2: panting your face technically could be considered a furry, But
Speaker 2: I disagree. I think you are a scaly which focuses
Speaker 2: mainly on anthropomorphic reptiles, amphibians, and dragons instead of mammals.
Speaker 2: Just some food for thought. Love the pod gek bless Matthew.
Speaker 2: You are correct. I have heard of this phrase before.
Speaker 2: Scalies they're furries who dress up in uh uh, who
Speaker 2: dress up as reptiles. I just googled scalely and I'm
Speaker 2: now looking at a picture of a hot ripped chad
Speaker 2: lizard guy. Yeah, I guess I would be a scally.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll go to one of the I do want
Speaker 2: to do a gek. I would love to do being
Speaker 2: a gecko at a furry convention. That is uh that
Speaker 2: is high on my list. That you will see that
Speaker 2: video at some point in the future. And maybe I'll
Speaker 2: learn more about scalies and I'll I'll become one of them,
Speaker 2: and maybe, uh maybe, maybe me and some other lizard
Speaker 2: people can have a great gecko orgy or something like that.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is they do there, whatever it is they
Speaker 2: do there, folks, this has been therapy. Gecko. I'm I'm Lyle.
Speaker 2: I'm a gecko. Please please just exist, just exist, to
Speaker 2: be yourself. I'm going on tour. I kicked off my
Speaker 2: tour the other night here in Tokyo with a sold
Speaker 2: out show. It was really fun. It was a great time.
Speaker 2: I worked all my new material, We did some great
Speaker 2: audience interactions. It was a fun time.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I I'm really happy about the stories and stuff I
Speaker 2: have for this next tour. I think you guys are
Speaker 2: gonna like it. So please go to Therapy Gecko Tour
Speaker 2: dot com and get tickets for that right now. I
Speaker 2: would love to see you guys all there. Get bless
Speaker 2: catch you guys on the next episode, and and thank
Speaker 2: you all very much for listening. I have a good one.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Red goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 2: Never be Can goes to his hide. He's teaching you
Speaker 2: a loud in your life, but he's not really an expert.