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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. We're back for another week of

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Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast, and yes we're breaking down Matt

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Speaker 1: James season of The Bachelor, but for one week and

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Speaker 1: one week only, Matt James shared the screen with her

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Speaker 1: very own Ashley. I con Eddie and she's here live

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Speaker 1: to talk about everything behind the scenes. Ashley, what up?

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Speaker 1: Oh Hey, what's up? Yes? It was an honor. And

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Speaker 1: now finally I can tell everybody where I actually met Matt,

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Speaker 1: because you and I have been alluding to talking to

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Speaker 1: Matt previously and people are like, in the covid age,

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Speaker 1: how that act? Did you actually meet this guy? Well,

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Speaker 1: I hosted a date and I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: things to say about how kind he is and the

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Speaker 1: connections that I saw forming. But first we want to

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Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about our live event that's

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Speaker 1: coming up. It's right around the corner. It's Thursday, February eleven.

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Speaker 1: It's at five pm Pacific time. We're giving away one

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Speaker 1: hundred tickets the event for four All our listeners have

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Speaker 1: to do is go to looped live dot com slash

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Speaker 1: almost Famous. That is l o o p e D

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Speaker 1: Live dot com slash almost famous and enter with the

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Speaker 1: code famous. Now, Ben, isn't that right around the release

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Speaker 1: of your book? Is around the release of the book,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna be talking about the book a lot

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Speaker 1: and hopefully answering some questions if anybody wants to send

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Speaker 1: them in the first two hundred that enter the code

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Speaker 1: famous gets access to the event. It's a meet and

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Speaker 1: greet package will also be available, which will also include

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Speaker 1: a copy of my book. This is gonna be really fun.

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Speaker 1: I hope that we can talk about the book. February

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Speaker 1: two is the official launch date, so this will just

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Speaker 1: be a few days after the book launches, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be something special. I'm really pumped to

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Speaker 1: be doing this, Ben, How do you feel about your

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Speaker 1: book coming out in mere weeks My honest opinion or

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Speaker 1: my really nice like, no, I want your honest opinion.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I know that your your pr opinion is

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Speaker 1: going to be like I'm so excited blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But like I know that it's got to be nerve

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Speaker 1: racking and that you have expectations for yourself. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty incredibly anxious, um and like not super looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it mostly because it is like it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a personal memoire and it includes a lot of

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Speaker 1: my friends and a lot of stuff that like I wrote,

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Speaker 1: wrote about and if if the book doesn't do well,

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Speaker 1: I I just know myself and I know my ego,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I'll take it as a personal

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Speaker 1: like hit, um more than other stuff. And so like

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm anxious because this is really this is the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing I've ever done. I've wrote it, produced it,

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Speaker 1: marketed it, talked about it, and uh, we're getting close.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not like I'm not, I'm not in

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Speaker 1: great spirits. I'm excited about it. I believe in it.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy and proud of the book, and I'm

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Speaker 1: really glad with what came out of it. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: just now now is the part where like that part's

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Speaker 1: done and now it's just the sales, And that part

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Speaker 1: just gets a little bit intimidating. Is there like a

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Speaker 1: certain number you're hoping for or are you hoping that

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Speaker 1: it just kind of strike it's a certain audience. Well,

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Speaker 1: how are you going to judge success in your own mind? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because I was talking to a few friends

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Speaker 1: them how like anxious I was getting and how nervous

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Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean. They're like, well,

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Speaker 1: you wrote this book, it's done, it's out there, um,

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Speaker 1: So like that's where I'm sitting. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: So put on your calendars. Well, actually, in addition to this,

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna recap this episode of

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Speaker 1: Matt James season of the Bachelor, and who better to

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Speaker 1: the almost famous podcasts. Okay, guys, what I've been waiting

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Speaker 1: for for the past week is to talk about what

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Speaker 1: you didn't see on my date. Let's start in chronological order,

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Speaker 1: as we always do. We left off last week with

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Speaker 1: Of course, there's rumblings that Sarah's doing it for attention,

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Speaker 1: But what was weird about this was that they didn't

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor. But but hold up and like there is

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Speaker 1: I don't love the fact that Sarah's being viewed as

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Speaker 1: with like that single sensual scene at the end or

429
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: something like that. It wasn't like as explicit as the

430
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: other girls. It was a romance novel. But what did

431
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: you say she was? What do you say? She was

432
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: probably the most um well, okay, I guess when you're

433
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: there in person. Was she the one that was kind

434
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: of most reserved going into this? Yes? And that's why

435
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: I liked her story because it wasn't like she was

436
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: doing it for shock value and for laughs. She was

437
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: doing like she was being herself in this story. She

438
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: was telling a story that she felt it was just

439
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: true to her. And that's why she said, like, as

440
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: you guys see as you guys like saw she was like, Okay,

441
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting to it. It's coming now. It's because she

442
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: read for a solid three minutes before she got to

443
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: like the sex scene of her of her writing. It

444
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: was just like more subduedent. I liked it for I

445
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: liked it for Matt. There are a couple other notable things.

446
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Katie's was so explicit it that they didn't show any

447
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: of it. Like if you notice, if you go back

448
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: and watch with Katie's reading, they showed the audience faces

449
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: a lot instead of her actually on stage. And that's

450
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: because I'm not even joking you. She was like dry

451
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: humping Matt on that couchy thing. She was all up

452
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: in his grill. It was hilarious to watch, but yeah,

453
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: definitely not ABC eight o'clock television programming. And then the

454
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: other notable thing is, if you guys remember when Matt's

455
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 1: reading his story, a lot of the girls were like, oh,

456
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: and like none of what they aired was really like aweworthy. Well,

457
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: he had a great zinger at the end of his story.

458
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: The two like the parents like, okay, so him and

459
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: whoever his wife is like, have this sexy scene in

460
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: the kitchen. But then he was like, and then we

461
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: had to like quickly break away from each other as

462
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: we heard the pitter patter of like two sets of

463
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: feet run down the stairs. So he was alluding to

464
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: his future kids. And that's what was so cute, so sweet, unbelievable.

465
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: Now it's it's it was. I thought it was a

466
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: super fun day to watch. I mean, yes, I think

467
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: it was hilarious that they had you host it. And

468
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: so that's the final question then before we move on

469
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: to the rest of the episode, is why you actually, like,

470
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: out of anybody in the Bachelor world, why were you

471
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: the one that got the host or whereas asked to

472
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: host this day in particular? Well, they want, you know,

473
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: as somebody who was so openly a virgin for so

474
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: long on the show, I had to come out of

475
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: my comfort zone to talk about that stuff. I needed

476
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable and grow in that department, and I

477
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: did so on the show, and they thought that it

478
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: would be a good parallel for me to have Matt

479
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: and his girls open up about that department. There you go,

480
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Well that makes sense now. I watched and I was like,

481
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: this is the best thing I've ever seen, Ashley. I

482
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: can Eddie up in front of these girls and then

483
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: Victoria just goes at her and I was like, I

484
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 1: love ash but I want to see how this one

485
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: plays out. All right, hey, Ashley, let's take a break here.

486
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to continue with the

487
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: rest of the episode. Okay, sounds good. And before we

488
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: do that, can I just say that I also felt

489
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: like he he did have a pretty solid connection with

490
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: Bree and Lauren. Those are the other two. I think

491
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: Lauren really stood out to me that day as well. Okay,

492
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: now we can take a break, let's do it. Well,

493
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: the episode picks back up again and it's Serena's day, Yes,

494
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: Serena's day, and they go horse back riding, which I

495
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: think is always a special date and good no matter

496
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: where you're at in life. You can do that when

497
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: you're married, when you're dating, or when you're on a show.

498
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: Well here's the part that you always have one or

499
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: two or multiple of them. But Serena usually likes to

500
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: take saying slow and that becomes very obvious to us.

501
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: But the Bachelor doesn't allow for that. And so these

502
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: are always the girls that either surprise you because of

503
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: how quickly they come out of their shell or they

504
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: stay reserved. They ended up going home. This was kind

505
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: of my clue to say, I'm excited about how this

506
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: date plays out, because is she gonna be able to

507
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: pick up the steam and pick up the speed at

508
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: which the bachelor needs her to be? Well, she made

509
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: quite a point of saying, I'm not falling in love,

510
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: but I am falling in like with Matt. And she

511
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: probably doesn't even really fall in like very fast, so

512
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: she is going to the speed of the Bachelor. She's

513
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: adapting pretty well. What I thought was super weird about

514
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: the first part of their date was that they were

515
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: like going to make a charcuterie board, but they didn't.

516
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: They didn't have a board. They had like a place

517
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: Matt and they're just like putting the meat and cheese

518
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: is on this map. I'm like, come on, this is

519
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. Why don't we have a pretty board here?

520
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Good point. Yeah, it's like where the our department. Our

521
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: department had a lot of work to do. Actually this season,

522
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: I mean they were bringing everything in and out of

523
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: this resort. Uh the whole time. There was no like

524
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: stage setting. So let's give him a break here, Okay,

525
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: all right, Well then She talks about how her dad

526
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: was not supportive of her going on the Bachelor, that

527
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: he had a linear life, which she kind of makes

528
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: sound like not her style. Uh, went to school, got married, career,

529
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, kids, all that, and she wants to be

530
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more adventurous and true to herself. How

531
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: did your parents react when you were going to go

532
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor at Like? Were they gun ho? Because

533
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: my dad was not My mom was so into it.

534
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean I remember them both being confused. I think

535
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: that's probably the best ways, like what and I don't

536
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: get it? And what is this gonna do? And like

537
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: do you have to leave your job? And how much

538
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: is this going to set you back? Like those are

539
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: the questions. I think a lot of it was more

540
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: like nobody nobody knew what it was going to include.

541
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: So nobody knew like that, I was it end up

542
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: going to be six months in my life? If not?

543
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean a lot more now I'm still talking about

544
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: it five years later. But they weren't not supportive. I

545
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: think they were supported. They were just like more blase

546
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, So my dad wasn't against it, but

547
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: he just thought it wasn't going to be like the

548
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: best career move. He you know, he thought like you're

549
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: gonna go on you what if you look bad? And

550
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: then like you can't get a job and blah blah blah,

551
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Dad, just trust me. I have a

552
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: good feeling about this. I'm pretty sure it's gonna work

553
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: out for me. And it did. Um, But let's get

554
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: back to Serena. So Serena has her first kiss with Matt,

555
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: interrupted by a donkey, which I thought was pretty cool

556
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: because the donkeys are really cute and it's a fun little,

557
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: uh you know, bluebird like moment. Matt talks about how

558
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: he had a pet when he was growing up, but

559
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: his pet was a turtle, and I was like, I

560
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: don't know, you really have a do you really have

561
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: like an emotional connection to a turtle? I kind of

562
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: felt Serena on that. I was like, somebody, get this

563
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: man a dog. He needs to feel what it is

564
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: to have a real pet, you know what. I agree,

565
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: and Jessica would agree to. She needs to get herself

566
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: a dog. She's been asking me about that. Yeah, do it,

567
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: do it, do it. It's time for Ben to have

568
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: another dog, because you guys, Ben was so attached to

569
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: his dog as a kid that when it passed away,

570
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: he just couldn't ever, I still don't know exactly. Yeah,

571
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: well a little side check, but yeah, I can cannot

572
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: other other people relate with that. You have a dog

573
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: you love so much that when she the dog passes,

574
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: you just can't imagine get another one. And I haven't

575
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: because it hurt so bad. But anyways, yeah, get the

576
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: guy dog. Yeah. Okay. So then they go to date

577
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: night and this is where she says to him, you know,

578
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: like I'm falling in like with you. She talks about

579
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: how her past break up, her one only serious relationship,

580
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: was really really painful for her. Um, she imagined that

581
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: she was going to marry him. Um, she says. You know,

582
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: they talk about how he dates to marry and Um,

583
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: she just said that looking back, she knows that she

584
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: was in love. Um. But he says that looking back

585
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: on his ex he doesn't think that he's in love

586
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: like he was in love with her like he did

587
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: at the time, but then looking back on it, he

588
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: doesn't think that he was actually in love with Actually,

589
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: this is where I need your hope. Now the kids

590
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: these days are saying this, I'm falling in like with

591
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: you now. I don't know what that means, because when

592
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm dating, or when I was dating, I would like

593
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: like them pretty much right away or not like them

594
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: right like. There's no falling in like, like does that

595
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: mean like right now? I don't even know if I

596
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: like you, like I'm into this, Like, what does it

597
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: mean to be falling into like? Don't I mean if

598
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: you're there and you're kissing him and you're like going on, like,

599
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: aren't you already liking him? Yes, you're liking him, you're

600
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: looking him. It's a cute way of saying I'm not

601
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: ready to say I love you. Yeah, but falling in

602
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: like I think it's just like a cute play on

603
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: the whole situation. All right, But you're right, it's definitely

604
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: just like I like you, because there's obviously feelings they're

605
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: falling in like would be crushing. I think that's just

606
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: like the verb yeah, I'm crushing on you hard well. Actually,

607
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: obviously this was Serena's day. Did you like this day?

608
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: To move on? Then to the final part of the episode, Okay,

609
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: it was fine. I agree that this was fine. I

610
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: thought that the last two days, the one on ones

611
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: that we saw last week, there was a lot more

612
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: chemistry and this one just felt fine to me. Well,

613
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: the the end of the episode then, is when we

614
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: talked about at the beginning, and we'll close with it.

615
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Here is Sarah's final goodbyes. This was an emotional thing.

616
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: This was tough. Uh. This was you know, one of

617
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the first like really important moments for Matt as the bachelor. Uh,

618
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: how did he handle it? And then also like how

619
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: did how did you feel like the girls handled this

620
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: situation and what can we expect moving forward? Well, I

621
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: feel like the girls definitely felt like a little bit

622
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: bad for the way that they acted, for her interrupting previously,

623
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: or her being antisocial because I found out that like

624
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: her dad, you know about her dad. But I feel

625
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: like Matt could not have handled the situation any better.

626
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: Why is he so good at what he does? He

627
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: seriously is so amazing at this. He says that he's

628
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: going to keep thinking about her, keep praying for her. Um,

629
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's obviously sad that she's not going to

630
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: be around, but you know knows that she's doing this

631
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: for a very important reason. Um, you know, he just

632
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: could It's such such a gentleman, and and that the

633
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: guy that she marries, he says, will be extremely lucky.

634
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: And it's just so sweet, so sweet. It makes me

635
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, at the end of this, if he

636
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: doesn't end up with somebody, or he does and it

637
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, he should revisit things. To Sarah. I

638
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: think that he was kind of thinking that in that moment. Well,

639
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: Matt handles himself great. Sarah's exit is one that pulled

640
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: on all of our heart strings and uh, we wish

641
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: her the best as she steps away from the show

642
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: and into her life that she had before. Another great episode, Ashley.

643
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: As we do every week to close out the thought,

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00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: your top three contestants at this point, and you're rating

645
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: A to F for this episode, I'm going to keep

646
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: my top three the same um, which is Abigail, Rachel,

647
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: and Brie. I cannot believe that next week there will

648
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: be five new girls entering. This is insanity. This is

649
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: actually what I've always wanted. I think that I suggested

650
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: this to the producers when I was there. I was like,

651
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, it would be really fun if like a

652
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: day or two into this, a whole bunch of other

653
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: girls come in. That's great for me as I view

654
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: are horrible for the girls that are already in there.

655
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: We thought that we were only going to see Heather

656
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: and maybe one of Matt's x is joined. But it

657
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: looks like a whole bunch of new girls come and

658
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: Anna is saying that somebody might be an escort. Anna

659
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: is so funny. She's just a little annoying, but like

660
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: Anna is the girl that One she talks like Megan

661
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Fox does in the Olsen Twin movie. And two she

662
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: um just is obsessed with drama, like she is there

663
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: to just bitch about people. Well, it's gonna be a

664
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: wild week. Yes, we have some new guests coming on.

665
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: Matt has had to learn a lot of people's names

666
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: at this point. I know his Night one felt like

667
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: there was a ton of people. Just wait till five

668
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: new girls come on, including Head there. My top three, Uh, well,

669
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Speaker 1: you didn't give the A to F for the episode.

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00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh um, it gets a B plus for sure. It's like,

671
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it wasn't like the juiciest. Next week

672
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: might be the juiciest. So my top three, I'm gonna

673
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: put Katie in this week. I know it was a

674
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: tough go for a bit on Katie and I know

675
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 1: she she didn't know the whole story, but I really

676
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: appreciated the way, uh, this kind of played out with

677
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: her on this episode. I was like Abigail and I

678
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: like Rachel. I think Abigail and Rachel are far and beyond,

679
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: and I think Bree uh is up there as well,

680
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: maybe tied for third at this point. Um, Ashley, I

681
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: take it back. This episod gets an A because I

682
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: wasn't it and how could I not give something that

683
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: I was in? And A there you go, ash Well,

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00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I'll give it an eight to just for you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. When we come back, we're gonna

686
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: go break down Bachelor headlines from this week. Uh, and

687
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: then we're gonna close with an interview from Erica Rose. Yes,

688
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: Erica Rose from Bachelor season nine. If you don't remember,

689
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: she was on Lorenzo season of The Bachelor. She's gonna

690
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: talk about what it means to be a queen of princess,

691
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: whatever the heck is going on. Hey, we'll be back

692
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: with the almost famous podcasts. Alright, we're back with Bachelor headlines.

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Speaker 1: The very first headlines Matt James contestant Sarah Trott, who

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00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: we just spoke about who left this week from the show.

695
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: Spotted leaving club with g Easy. This was pre Bachelor,

696
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: but a big story, big story. Yeah. Back in March

697
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: early Sarah was seeing with g Easy at a nightclub.

698
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: It's called Delilah's, right right around the corner from my

699
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: apartment in West Hollywood, and she seems to have been

700
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: there for a friend's birthday party. Uh, no other info

701
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: except for the fact that they looked like they were

702
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: like maybe leaving together. Yeah, paparazzi shots. It's a paparazzi shot.

703
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: So uh, just so interesting to me how people still

704
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: find that stuff, Like how do you go back and

705
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: look at pictures and go, oh, it's Sarah trot from

706
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: the back. I just don't. It's so much work to do. Hey,

707
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: we talked about it last week. It's something funny that

708
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Speaker 1: Matt James does. He kisses with his eyes open, not

709
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: just like one or two times, like pretty commonly. Uh,

710
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: And people started to talk about it last week on

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00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: the episode. Well, Matt James had a great response to

712
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: his friend Tyler Cameron, who was trolling him for kissing

713
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: with his eyes open. So Tyler tweeted him ao Matt James,

714
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: what we got going on over here with a pick

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00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: sure of him with his eyes open, and then Matt

716
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: responds by saying, got to make sure no one is

717
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: sneaking up on us. When your eyes are closed, anything

718
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: can happen. It's for both of our protection. Is a

719
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: great response, super funny, And of course I had to

720
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: watch this episode with his open eyed kisses in mind,

721
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: and I did notice that most of them again in

722
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: this episode, we're open eyed. Now. I gotta say that,

723
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: like they're like they're like I would say a quarter open, right,

724
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: Like they're pretty closed, but so maybe he can see

725
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: like a little bit, he could see a little lip

726
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: the opens open. You can't say if they're open, they're open.

727
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they're half open or or like

728
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: four open. If you're if you're if they're open, they're open. Yeah.

729
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think like he's looking at anything, you know,

730
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm doing it right now as we speak, Like

731
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: I got my eyes like a fourth open. It's like

732
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: all I see are kind of like my bottom lid,

733
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: Like I don't really see much else. So it's still

734
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: something to say. Staring at the girl and I don't

735
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: know Hey, uh, move on to a story about Claire Crawley. Um,

736
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: obviously there's rumors um going around this week that think

737
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: that Claire Crawley and Dale Moss have split. Now we

738
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: just want to pause here and see we have had

739
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: nothing confirmed and so we can't confirm from it here

740
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: or deny it. We just haven't heard. But that's beside

741
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: the point, because this headline reads, Claire Crawley reunites with mom,

742
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: who battles Alzheimer's after being a part amid COVID. Time

743
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: is precious, Claire says, So there's a picture that you

744
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: posted on Instagram of her holding her mom's hand, um,

745
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: and I think it was her left hand, and yet

746
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: that ring part of the left hand is covered by

747
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: her mom's hand, And that's what people are really over analyzing.

748
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: The day that she posted this Instagram, she also um

749
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Speaker 1: Dale also posted a Bible passage both of them kind

750
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: of referring to hard days. And I guess they haven't

751
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: posted anything together or about each other since these posts

752
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: went up mid last week, so people are really speculating.

753
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: But it is really sad that it seems like Claire

754
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to touch her mom like be in

755
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: the same room as her mom since the beginning of

756
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: COVID with her mom's Alzheimer's and in the nursing home

757
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: that she's in the care facility. So I'm really glad

758
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: that Claire got to see her mom like that. Has

759
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: got to be so emotional. I feel so bad for

760
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: what she's going through. Um, and I really hope that

761
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: she's not going through any sort of break up at

762
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: the moment either. Yeah. Well, again, we don't know anything

763
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: about it. We've tried, but then again, how you can't

764
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: really dig to find out what's going on if nobody's Yeah,

765
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: but we'll keep you updated if we hear anything good

766
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: or sad. But we do know one couple that is

767
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: thriving right now, Tassia and Zach and Tassia Adams is

768
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: keeping zach Clark close to her heart. This according to

769
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: e News Ashley, how is she doing that? Oh, she's

770
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: doing it with a necklace. So she had her a

771
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: T initial on a charm necklace and then she added

772
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: a Z for Zach or as she likes to say, Zachary.

773
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: They also spent his twenty thirty seventh birthday with a

774
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: road trip to upstate New York this weekend. So the

775
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: two are cute and cozy and and enjoying that East

776
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: Coast life together. The Bachelor That's Mike Johnson to host

777
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: new food focused digital short series That Looks Good. This

778
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: according to People, Yeah, the show is called That Looks

779
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: Good and it's supposed to celebrate select culinary holidays with

780
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: viewers by sharing the history of the food and some

781
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: fun facts, all while eating great meals. It is. It's

782
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: holiday inspired, like I said, and um, it'll be five

783
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: episodes dropping monthly, and the first is Mike's and he's

784
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: going to be selling writing National Bagel Day. So when

785
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: we talk about holidays, we're not talking Christmas, Thanksgiving. We're

786
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: talking about those silly days that you get pop pop

787
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: on your calendar and on your Twitter that says like

788
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: today's National Donut Day or today's National ice Cream Cone Day.

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00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: So look out for Mike's That Looks Good on National

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00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: Bagel Day coming up. So good. Hey. A couple other

791
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: headlines here. Ashley our friend Crystal Nielsen and boyfriend Miles

792
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: Bowls move in together. This according to US magazine. Yeah, Um,

793
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: not much more to that, but they moved into her

794
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: San Diego beach house and the house looks freaking gorgeous.

795
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: So lucky him, and I'm glad that they're you know,

796
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: their their relationship is progressing as her pregnancy is progressing

797
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: even more. I can't believe she's in her third trimester already.

798
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: That's mind blowing. It's crazy, but hey, we're wishing her

799
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: the best. Carly Wadell plans to give wedding ring to

800
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: daughter Bella after Evan bas split. I don't need it anymore,

801
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: and she quotes she said, I got a ring when

802
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: I got this dress. Well, actually I got a different

803
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: ring because if you guys know that they switched rings.

804
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: She didn't love the ring that she got on Bachelor

805
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: in Paradise, so they like switched it a couple of

806
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: months in and she said, but you're gonna get it

807
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: one day. I'm going to give that ring to you.

808
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that cool? I don't need it anymore. That's what

809
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: she said in one of her YouTube videos that she

810
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: was going through Bachelor in Paradise outfits with with Bella

811
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: and she was like rating them. I don't know, I

812
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: saw this and like telling her that to her daughter

813
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: felt weird to me, like right, like you're telling your

814
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: daughter like I don't need it anymore like that just

815
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: it feels heavy, Yeah, especially since like that's her dad,

816
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: it's like anymore. Yeah. I mean maybe it's not the

817
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: best word choice. Uh just hard. I guess the best

818
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: way to say is it's hard, but it's hard no

819
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: matter what. Um. Hey, Matt James has been getting some

820
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 1: criticism this week. Uh for how can you criticize Matt James. Well,

821
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: he's getting criticism from somebody, uh for not dating black women,

822
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: and he says, I've dated across the board. Dis according

823
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: to people. Oh so this was actually brought up on

824
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson and Brian Abslo's new podcast it's called Talk

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00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: Me It Out. And Matt says, people, for some reason,

826
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: think I don't like black women. The last few women

827
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: that he dated have all been black. So he says,

828
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand.

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00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: People should want you to be happy, regardless if they're white,

830
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: they're black, they're Asian or whatever. He says, I've dated

831
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: across the board. My dating life looks like what we

832
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: saw on night one of the show Spanish women, White women,

833
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: Asian women, black women, everything that I've ever dated, and

834
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: what I'm not into isn't race specific. When you're looking

835
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: for things that aren't race specific, you have to have

836
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: a broadcast of characters to fill out all those things.

837
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: And thank goodness they had it because it allowed me

838
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: to enjoy the process the way that it did well. Obviously,

839
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean, criticism is gonna come, right. It was my

840
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: advice to mas like it's gonna happen no matter what. Well,

841
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: that's been all of the headlines for this week. Ashley, Uh,

842
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: great episode so far, but we still have Erica Rose

843
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: to come on, which I'm really excited to talk to about.

844
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: Let's take a break here. When we come back, Erica

845
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: Rose will be joining us on the Almost fame As podcast. Okay, guys,

846
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: we've got Erica Rose on the phone. If you guys

847
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: don't remember her, she was a contestant on the ninth

848
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: season The Bachelor of Lorenzo's. She was eliminated in week three,

849
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: but so memorable that who the heck would have thought

850
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: that she was a limited week three. She returned to

851
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: the second season of Bachelor Pad and she was limited

852
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: week five there, and then she returned again for Bachelor

853
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: Pad season three. And she was eliminated in week five. Uh.

854
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: And if you guys don't remember Bachelor Pad, you should

855
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: probably go back and watch because it was like the

856
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: original Bachelor in Paradise. But most importantly, Erica Rose, the

857
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: original queen of this franchise, is on the line with us.

858
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: Hey Erica, Hey, guys. It's good to see you, guys,

859
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: and hear from you again. Good to hear from you. Um.

860
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: So have you been keeping up this season? Um? I

861
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: have been keeping up a little bit. I'm not watching

862
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: it super thoroughly, but of course I've heard about it, um,

863
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: and I like man is the Bachelor, And of course

864
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: I've heard all about Victoria and the fact that she's

865
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: learning tres. So you the first person on the should

866
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: ever wear Tierra? As far as I know, I think

867
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm the first person on the Bachelor franchise to wear one.

868
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: And I feel it's important to add that I wore

869
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: it because Lorenzo was a prince, so it made sense

870
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: for me to wear it. It wasn't just like a

871
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: thing that I did for fun or before going on

872
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: the show, so to me, it was in context. It's uh, okay,

873
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: So let's start here though, Uh, you had a reason

874
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: to wear this obviously, like being the queen or the princess.

875
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: Uh is something that kind of matched your season. But

876
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: if you could put your like self in Victoria's shoes

877
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: right now, what is the reason for calling yourself a queen? Like?

878
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: What what would be the hope that you get out

879
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: of that? So I have no idea. My mom thinks

880
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: that she's doing it because her name is Victoria and

881
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: there was a famous queen Victoria. I never thought of that. Possibly.

882
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: I started following her on Instagram after hearing about her,

883
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: and I don't see a lot of pictures on her

884
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Instagram in her crowns or trs, So I'm not sure

885
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: if she's doing it to get attention or if it's

886
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: just something that she's doing to feel empowered. When you

887
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: were on the show and you hammed up the whole

888
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: like princess thing, you kind of were playing like into

889
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: a character. Did you feel like you were like were

890
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: you doing it intentionally? Do you feel like characters like

891
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: that on the show usually do it intentionally or do

892
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: you feel like she's just this is her real self? Um?

893
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: So I think that I was doing it intentionally because

894
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: I wore it to not even the first, you know,

895
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: casting thing that I went to, but then they did

896
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: a callback or because I knew that it was Prince

897
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: Lorenzo and he was a prince, and of course the

898
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: producers wanted me to wear it, and I was actually

899
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: embarrassed to wear it on the first night, so I

900
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: wore an understated one because I didn't want to make

901
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: a thing about it, like I didn't want to stand

902
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: out much honestly, So I felt a little bit uncomfortable

903
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: about it. But I was encouraged to keep wearing it,

904
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: and so then it became kind of a thing, and

905
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: I felt like I might as well just own it.

906
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: But I will say when I came back for Bachelor Pad,

907
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: like when I first three, but when I came back

908
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: and I was already in law school at twenty eight,

909
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: I didn't want to wear the tiara anymore. It felt

910
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: kind of awkward to me, um and it felt like

911
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: outdated and very juvenile. And so I just feel like

912
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: there's certain things you can get away with in your

913
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: early twenties. Yeah, So yeah, I'm not sure if she's

914
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: being encouraged to wear it. I hope she's not, because

915
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: that just makes me feel like they're encouraged. If the

916
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: producers are encouraging it, then I do like it's kind

917
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: of copying me, and I don't like that. If it's

918
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: just something that she genuinely does on her own, you know,

919
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: then I can't hate on that. It's it's always intriguing

920
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: to me. And we talked about it a lot, but

921
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: and you kind of mentioned it like when you're in

922
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: your early twenties, you can get away with a little bit.

923
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: You can be a little funny, silly, goofy whatever, right,

924
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: but it's always interesting and quite frankly, if I'm honest,

925
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: like I don't get this part of the show is

926
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: when contestants go on, they've probably seen the show before,

927
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: they've watched it. They know that the characters never really

928
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: come off well, right, Like it's always like anybody that's

929
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: like a little bit more like villainous seems to always

930
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: have their stick. And so when you kind of like

931
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: own a stick and you can it's very clear that

932
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: like this is not going well for you. What do

933
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: you think the mindset is for people? Help me understand

934
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: this to continue to go go with this? Like why

935
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: do they continue down this path? So I was actually

936
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: really um I hadn't really watched a lot of the

937
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: show when I went on it, to be honest, so

938
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: I actually don't know that, um. And so I was

939
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: just doing it, you know, like I said, because I

940
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: wanted to do what they wanted me to do. But

941
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: also I thought it was all in good fun and

942
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: I was lucky that Lorenzo thought it was funny as well,

943
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: and we became good friends. It was even at our wedding.

944
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: We stayed close friends. So I guess I was lucky

945
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: that way. But I feel like with her, probably it's

946
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: a similar situation where she feels like she is giving

947
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: people what they want and she's like enraptured in that character.

948
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: But it can definitely be really really hard. Um it

949
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: was for me. After the show, I thought people were

950
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: just gonna laugh and think it was funny. And I

951
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: literally got hate mail because this was back when people

952
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: still sit mail and my mom asking how could you

953
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: raise your daughter, you know, to be so spoiled and entitled?

954
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: And my mom is literally like crying and heartboken over it.

955
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: So you know, people can just be really mean. So

956
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: I hope people don't take her too seriously. You know,

957
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: she wants them to but it is. I mean, she

958
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: seems to really be into this character, but it's hard

959
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: to know what her motivation is unless she's just trying

960
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: to get it and she's obviously not really thinking that

961
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: she's going to be the one to end up with

962
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: Matt either. Yeah, Erica, before we let you go, UM,

963
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: can you give us a little update on how your

964
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: life is these days? Because you're kind of like l

965
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Wood's come to life right now. She's got her platinum

966
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: blonde hair, she's got a pink wall with all her

967
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: law degrees behind hinder. It's pretty cool. So you're a lawyer,

968
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 1: you work with your husband. Yes, I'm a real lawyer.

969
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: We have a real law firm. I actually started it

970
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: before he joined me um and so then we merged it.

971
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: So it's called Rose Sanders. We're in Houston. We do

972
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: I have my specialty entertainment media lab, but we really

973
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: deal a lot of family labs and also personal injury,

974
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: and we actually really go to court. We're gonna be

975
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: in court tomorrow. And I do think of Leglibland sometimes

976
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: when her friends show up and they're like, you're like

977
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: a real lawyer, because we really are, you know, I

978
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: really am a real lawyer. And we have two daughters,

979
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: Holland and asked in there four and a half and

980
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: two and a half. So it is super busy and

981
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't really sit around and think about, you know,

982
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: the fact that I was on the Bachelor, But of

983
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: course it comes up sometimes even in court, you know me,

984
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: and it's fun, but it's not a huge part of

985
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: my everyday life, and I don't really think most of them.

986
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: I never assume that my clients know about it unless

987
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: they bring it up themselves. Honestly. Yeah, well, I mean

988
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna follow, It's gonna follow everybody around. And uh, somehow,

989
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: some way, we really appreciate you coming on Erica and

990
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: uh and sharing some insight into Victoria. We you said

991
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: it best so and I think it's something I have

992
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: to remember, like you don't want to see anybody get

993
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: hated on. But it's just confusing. I think we watched

994
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: this and I think my mindset is like I'm just

995
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: confused at what's happening and where this is gonna go

996
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: and how this can be good. Um, and so hearing

997
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: from you really helps, and Hey, come back on soon,

998
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: best luck and everything. Tell your husband hello, thanks for

999
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: having me, Ashley, it was a pleasure seeing you on

1000
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: this week's episode. I hope we can see you again

1001
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: on more episodes. I know that Chris Harrison stood up

1002
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: for you this week a little bit and said that

1003
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: you did not beg to go back onto this episode.

1004
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: In fact, I can't see you begging to go on

1005
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: to an episode like this and and host a date

1006
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: like this. I thoroughly enjoy seeing you, and if you

1007
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: out there enjoy seeing Ashley as well, please message your

1008
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: comment on something make sure she hears from you. The

1009
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: girl deserves some love this week. But it was a

1010
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: great episode, Ashley. We'll be back next week, right with

1011
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: another episode of the Almost Famous podcast. All right, well yeah,

1012
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited about next week's episode. I just can't believe

1013
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: there's five more women coming in. This is gonna be

1014
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: so good for us at home um and so confusing

1015
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: for Matt. But until then we will sign off the

1016
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: way we always do. This has been the almost Famous podcast.

1017
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening right as a little review,

1018
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Speaker 1: if you love listening, yeah that sounds nice. Yeah, we

1019
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: we love you and we love hearing from you and

1020
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Speaker 1: signing off. I've been Ashley and I've been been make

1021
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