1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hannah Malosh. Welcome to post On. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: Hi. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 3: Hannah and I just got back from filming a running 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: interview show episode for everybody listening. Hannah is an og 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 3: YouTube content creator. 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: She's also an entrepreneur. 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: But let's start with the run. We ran about a mile. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: What is your favorite form of movement right now and 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: how is. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 4: The run for you. 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit out of shape right now, but 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: normally working out is a huge part of my everyday life. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: I feel like the best times, just best mental states 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: are when I'm like working out once a day or 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: walking once a day. Ideally it would be a walk 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: a day and I'm feeling amazing. But other than that, 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: getting in like hit workouts. I love hit workouts, adding 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: in weights to my routine. We were talking about going 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: to workout classes because that's the easiest way. I feel like, 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: go into a class, get it done. 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm such a workout class girl. 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: When I was younger in college in my early twenties, 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: every day I was going out running like six miles. 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: And now I. 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: Feel like in order to get a great workout, and 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: I just need to have somebody telling you what to do. 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: So helpful. Yeap, Wait, so you would go out and 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: run six miles. 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: My mom used to like love running like that. And 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: I feel like I always kind of thought I was 32 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: going to get into into it. I never have, but 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: like you can go through phases with it, you know, 34 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: I want to get good at it, like so badly. 35 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Would you ever do a marathon? 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: Okay? 37 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: I was just thinking about this, and I feel like 38 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: I've been seeing a lot about it. Or maybe it's 39 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: just my age or what, like my algorithm, but I 40 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: feel like I see so many things about running in marathons, 41 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: and then I've seen people post like you're either engaged. 42 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: Or you're training for a marathon one hundred percent. Is 43 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: that not true? It's so true. 44 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done marathons before, and I feel like it 45 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: was when I was younger, Like I did a couple 46 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: when I was in college, and now I'm like, I 47 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: really have no interest in doing a marathon. 48 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: Really, I don't know why. On your body. 49 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: It's so hard on your body. Yeah, And I just 50 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: feel like I've never been a competitive runner. For me, 51 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: it really was all just about just wellness and mental 52 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: well being. 53 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: And that's why I loved that you said earlier. 54 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: That working out for you is for your mental health, 55 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: because for me it's fully that like the reward of 56 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: being in shape is amazing as well. But like for 57 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: for some people, like that's not what happens to their 58 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: bodies as a results of breaking out. 59 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: So for me, it really fully is the mental. 60 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: It always is. And like I love my like hit workouts. 61 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: It's the same thing probably as like the high like 62 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: you get after running. 63 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: But you just feel so good and I don't. 64 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Know, I feel like it sets your day up for 65 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 2: success and it leads into everything else that you're doing. 66 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I just did a great workout, I'm 67 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: taking care of myself. Might as well do all these 68 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: other things and have a great day. 69 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: Okay, wait, I'm curious because you grew up in Michigan, 70 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: did you play sports growing up? 71 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was gonna say. I actually flailed the 72 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: cross too. 73 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay what and did you play allf 74 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: your high school? 75 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: So I stopped when I was I think fifteen or sixteen, 76 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: kind of same as you, but to pursue YouTube. 77 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Ah, so I that's so interesting. 78 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 4: That funny. 79 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: So I was loving lacross and then I stopped. Yeah, 80 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I want to focus all my 81 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: time into YouTube. And the funniest thing is my mom's like, well, 82 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: what are you going to do to stay in shape? 83 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, all, go on runs. 84 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: I like didn't. I was like, I'll go on runs. Mom, 85 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: like that'll be my form of exercise, and she was. 86 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: Like, okay, Well it's so interesting because you, I mean, 87 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: you were in school, so yeah, it's like when you 88 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: had extra time, I'm sure you had to lean into 89 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: like YouTube had to be what you were doing, because 90 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: it's like you couldn't probably do a sport and do 91 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: YouTube at the level you were at. 92 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally could have so done lacrosse and done YouTube, 93 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: but like at the same time, I just was so 94 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: distracted and my whole heart was in YouTube and creating videos, 95 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: and I just that's all I wanted to do all 96 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: the time. So taking a break to get dressed for lacrosse, 97 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: to go to practice and then get home shower, you're exhausted. 98 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: It's like that's where all my energy after school was going, 99 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: instead of like taking two or three hours to do 100 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: like prep for YouTube, video or edit. So I was like, 101 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: I really want to put my time towards that. 102 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Do you remember the first video that you created when 103 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I was thirteen? 104 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: It was how to make diy lipstick out of crans? 105 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: That is the dising ever so funny. 106 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, crans, No it is. 107 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's me melting crans like on our kitchen stove. 108 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: I poured it into like this watercolor thing and then 109 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: I like took a brush and it's like kind of gross. 110 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: It's really random. 111 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: But is it still up? 112 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: No? 113 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 4: No, no, I took it down. 114 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 115 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: It must be wild to look back at your videos 116 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: from when you were thirteen, Like talk about a time capsule, right. 117 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: No, it's so nice. 118 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: And that's the thing that I really do love about, like, 119 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: at least having videos through my teens, is I can 120 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: go back at any moment. And I've always said this, 121 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: but like for my future kids to go back and 122 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: be like. 123 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what I was like, and you know, 124 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: this is what I was doing. But yeah, it's a 125 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: great memory capsule. 126 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: For sure, because you've been online for so many years 127 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: and since you were so young, you really have lived 128 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: so many lives publicly too. 129 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. 130 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's what I've been bad at recently, 131 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: is I've been like more private. That's fine though, for sure, 132 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: but I do miss sharing things and having it be 133 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: more public because there's that connection that comes with that 134 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: of it's more of a friendship and people know what's 135 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: going on in your life. 136 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: And again, it. 137 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: Does flow through those eras and I don't know, it's 138 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: the connection, and I feel like people get you more. 139 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: You've been so open online for so many years that 140 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: even if you're taking a second to be a little 141 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: bit more private. I think your followers and the people 142 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: that really have grown up with you and know you 143 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: can still understand you and what you're up to. They're like, 144 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: she's just taking time to do her thing. She's going 145 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: to be back at some point, you know. 146 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: Thank you. 147 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: I appreciate that absolutely. I feel like people do. I 148 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: think people do get it too. But at a certain 149 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: point it's like I love keeping things to myself, but 150 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: then I also like love sharing things. 151 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: But you're right. 152 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it's also like a gut feeling. It's like 153 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: the intuition of what you feel comfortable sharing, and like 154 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: that all comes with time. 155 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine based on what you're saying right now, 156 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: Like it is kind of hard when you feel like Okay, well, 157 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: I want to keep certain things to myself, but at 158 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: the same time, like I love my audience and I 159 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: want them to know what I'm up to. So how 160 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: do you decide what you keep private and what you 161 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: keep public. 162 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: Like lately the past two years. Yeah, that's something that 163 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: I decide do I want to post that? 164 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: Do I not want to post that? 165 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: And to be honest, I don't like it because it 166 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: makes me overthink everything. 167 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: It makes me overthink, oh if I. 168 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Post about that, how is that going to affect me? 169 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: And then I start caring about you know, I I 170 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like it's made me overthink a lot. 171 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Content to do that to you, yeah, yeah, to everyone. 172 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've only been in it for two years, 173 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: and I feel like I go down like mental spirals 174 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: all the time of overthinking. 175 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: So I can't even imagine what you feel like. 176 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean it's a lot, And I feel 177 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: like it's important to have a line of like what 178 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: you want to share and what you don't want to share. 179 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: Because for so many years. 180 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: I think from when I started thirteen to probably like 181 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one is when I just like shared everything. 182 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: It was just like what I was doing ja dah, 183 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: like I didn't think twice about it. 184 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: I would just share it. 185 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: Now I'm kind of like, how is this gonna affect 186 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: the people around me? How does this affect this and that? 187 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: And I don't know for right now. I think it's 188 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: just based off of like a gut intuition of do 189 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: I feel good sharing this? Is this gonna, you know, 190 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: connect with people? Or is this just a memory I 191 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: want to share? 192 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Content really can make you overthink. 193 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: I'm curious, like, based off of this, what do you 194 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: feel like right now? 195 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Is inspiring you creatively? 196 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: I think right now what's interesting me is like fashion 197 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: and putting together cute outfits and just doing cute little 198 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: things for myself. Like that's kind of what's making me 199 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: feel good. 200 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: I feel like it's so hard, especially you've been on 201 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: you've been on social media for so long, like we've 202 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: talked about it, like you've gone through so many eras 203 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: of different faces of content. Like maybe what you're feeling 204 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: right now is just it's growth. Honestly, It's like, Okay, 205 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: well you're moving into this new chapter, which is so 206 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: it's so normal to feel like uneasy in those moments. 207 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: I think that comes with everything is like what makes 208 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: you feel most comfortable and what makes you feel most confident. 209 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: So I feel like that's what I've been trying to 210 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: listen to and honestly, like, I'm about to be twenty four, 211 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: but even in the past couple of months, I can 212 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: feel myself getting more comfortable with myself again and like 213 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: out of that, yeah, and that's amazing because you go 214 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: through I mean I went through a stage where I 215 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: was just like, if you don't like yourself or you 216 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: don't really necessarily like the things that are going on 217 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: in your life, it. 218 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: Does make it hard to share that. 219 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: But over the past couple of months, it's like so 220 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: refreshing to start liking yourself and understanding yourself more again, 221 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: because then it makes my job easier too, of like 222 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: sharing and connecting with people. So I don't know, I 223 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: already feel the changes and everything too. It's like, yeah, 224 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: you go through stages. 225 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: Totally sure, so tempting to show yourself in this like 226 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: positive light all the time. I'm curious, like when you're 227 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: going through something, are you vulnerable with your followers and 228 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: you're like, listen, I'm going through this right now. 229 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: When I was younger, I would kind of pick and 230 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: choose when I wanted to like talk about things or 231 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: open up about things. But when you do open up 232 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: about certain topics or emotional things that are affecting you, 233 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: sometimes I feel like, I mean, it's something you can 234 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: take back. So I've posted videos of me crying, and 235 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: you know, you get very emotional about things, which is 236 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: totally fine, but then once you share that, it's like. 237 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: It's not something you can take back. 238 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: So I try and pick and choose, like, Okay, is 239 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: this only affecting me. Is this something that people can 240 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: connect with and it's going to be relatable and comforting, 241 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: or is this something that I need to like heal 242 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: through in private, Yeah, and then talk about when I'm 243 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: more healed. 244 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 245 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: That's a hard thing to figure out, honestly, because. 246 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: It's like some things you do just need to take 247 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: a step back and have a moment for yourself and 248 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: if it still is important to you to like come 249 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: online and be like, all right, look, this is what 250 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: I was going through, this is how I dealed with it. 251 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: I think that can be very comforting. But then there's 252 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: also those moments when you're like in the thick of it, 253 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: that like crying to the camera or opening up that 254 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: can also be super helpful. So I think it's just 255 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: like picking and choosing what you want to share. 256 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: Again, taking a step back to when you were thirteen 257 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: and you start posting on YouTube for the first time, 258 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: what was it that inspired you to start posting content. 259 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: I loved Bethanymota, like I loved watching your videos. 260 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know who Bethanymota is now. 261 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to go on. 262 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you to go back and like watch her morning routines. 263 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I will. 264 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: I will shout out yes, Oh my gosh, how old 265 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: is she now? 266 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: Like is she your age or probably twenty seven, twenty eight? 267 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, I have to let her. 268 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: I watched her when she was I think seventeen or eighteen, 269 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: and I was like, eleven. 270 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: Twelve routine so cute. I thought she was so cute, 271 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: so positive. 272 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: She had her morning routines, her like monthly favorite videos, 273 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: her beauty fashion videos, and so I begged my mom 274 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: for a camera for Christmas and then I kind of 275 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: got used to it and then posted my first video 276 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: a couple months later, and I mean they were pretty bad. 277 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: At first, like obviously it's like the diy La Grand 278 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I had no idea what I was doing. 279 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: But then I don't know. 280 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: I just kind of looked up to her, like I 281 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: loved the beauty fashion lifestyle back then was like the 282 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: morning routine or like how to have the best morning. 283 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: So I just stuck to that at first because I 284 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: loved her videos and I was like, I can do. 285 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: This in my own way. 286 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: And then I think it's when that's when vlogging and 287 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: like incorporating more of your life came into the picture 288 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: of like oh I could actually take my camera to 289 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: school and I can actually like vlog with my friends. 290 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: So then it turned from I want to do like 291 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: beauty fashion videos to I want this to be like 292 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: a memory capsule of my life. I don't think I 293 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: started actually vlogging till I was maybe fifteen, but I 294 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: would for like two years. I would just do like 295 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: Easter outfit ideas and that's so random stuff like that. 296 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: I just went on YouTube and I think like I 297 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: told myself, like, you're going to post every week, and 298 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: I loved it. I don't know what it was, but 299 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: I well, it was Bethaning about it. Obviously, I was like, yeah, 300 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: I love her. I want to take that for myself. 301 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: I just decided when I posted my first video, I 302 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: was like, you're gonna do this every week, You're going 303 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: to post, and I posted like weekly for a really 304 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: long time. 305 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: At what point did you see start really growing an audience. 306 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: Was it pretty quick that people started following your content? 307 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: Honestly, not really. 308 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: I didn't have too much of an audience for a 309 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: year or two. I would say it was around fifteen 310 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 2: I started doing like that's when I started going into 311 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: like workout videos and like concept videos and really opening 312 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: myself up to just yeah, different content. 313 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: I think one video that did well for me. 314 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: The first video that did well for me was like 315 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: ten things to do a sleepover when You're bored. 316 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: And that's a great like SEO title. Also yeah, in 317 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: terms of like people want to know what's. 318 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 4: You to sleepover? It's cute. It's that cute. 319 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like in sixth grade and I me 320 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: and my friend it was like just a cute video. 321 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 4: But that was the first video I think that did 322 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 4: well for me. And then I did. 323 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: Like trying to be a model for a day, and 324 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: I was like oh, I'm going to train like a 325 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: model and I'm going to eat like a model. I 326 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: was like fifteen or sixteen, It's like, what the hell, 327 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: you don't know what is going on? 328 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: And then I did like a photo shoot with my friend. 329 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: When I started branching out into more lifestyle, that's when 330 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: things started to do well, but my channel didn't. I 331 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: think it was around fifteen is when I started actually 332 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: noticing people watching. 333 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh sweet. 334 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: It was a sleepover video that took off at first, 335 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: and I it was with my friend Page, and. 336 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, love, people are actually watching. 337 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, it must be so wild too. 338 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: And then it's like the numbers that you started to 339 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: get were like probably so hard to even fath and 340 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: at the time to be a high schooler and a 341 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: million people are watching your content, especially in those days 342 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: when YouTube was so new, honestly, right. 343 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at first, I'm just happy my mom 344 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: kind of like let me do my thing, because looking back, 345 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: a lot of it's like kind of cringe that I 346 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: was like putting myself out there that much. I was 347 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: just I mean I was in yeah, fifth or sixth grade. 348 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: No wait, how old are you when you're thirteen, sixth grade, 349 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: sixth seventh, eighth grade, but middle school, it's like those 350 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: are cringey years and you're putting yourself out there. But 351 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: my mom just like, let me do my thing, and 352 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: video after video I would just find new things I 353 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: wanted to post about, and eventually, yeah, more people started watching. 354 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: And I think the most exciting time was still probably 355 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: in the beginning, when like people are interacting with your 356 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: content and you feel seen and you're like, oh my gosh, 357 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: finally posting and doing all of this is paying off 358 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: and people are actually seeing this and interacting with me. 359 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that was so cool. 360 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: What did your parents think when your channel started taking off? 361 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know, like anything that I ever wanted 362 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: to do, she would just support me in. I mean 363 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: it was even random stuff like I had no subscribers, 364 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: but I was like, I want to go to the 365 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: beauty con, Like I really want to meet my favorite 366 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: YouTubers and I want to be there with my friends 367 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: because I had Internet friends and I was like I 368 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: really want to go, you know, be there. She's like, Okay, 369 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: found a way to make the New York trip happen. 370 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: Found a way for me to basically just kind of yeah, 371 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: pursue YouTube in the way that I wanted to, and 372 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: was never judgmental, was never like oh, don't talk about that, 373 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: or don't post that or don't wear that, which obviously, 374 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: as a mom should be so supportive, like do what 375 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: you want, but just never any limits with her, and 376 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: she would help me with whatever. 377 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: It makes sense because it's like a parent would be 378 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: just as supportive with a sport. And YouTube became your 379 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: sport from what you said, right, like that became your 380 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: thing after school to focus on. 381 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: So it's so so cool. 382 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: At the time within your school, were you one of 383 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: the only YouTubers? 384 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like there were a couple other people 385 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: that would post videos and stuff, but it was definitely 386 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: like Hannah's making another video. 387 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: What did people think when you started popping off on YouTube? Like, 388 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: were people accepting of it? Did you ever get like 389 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: haters from it in your school at first? 390 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. I was so confident 391 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: when I first started my channel. I was like thirteen, 392 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm posting my my lipstick videos and 393 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: how to make a Starbucks frappuccino video. 394 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: Like and people. 395 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: I think people probably were making fun of me at 396 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: the time. 397 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: You come across to me as like you were probably 398 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: just a really social kid in school and then that's 399 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: what you start to doing versus I feel like there's 400 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: some kids that probably started out on YouTube because they 401 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: were just like in their house is kind of like 402 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: alone posting content. 403 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: Right. 404 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: I was a little bit of an introvert, like I 405 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: have a really weird dynamic where sometimes I was so confident, 406 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: like but also shy. 407 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 4: There were kids when. 408 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: I first started that were like teasing me, which we 409 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: were thirteen fourteen, so it's like yeah, but yeah, or 410 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: if you're like, oh, nice video, Hannah, and it's like 411 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: but it didn't affect me when I was thirteen fourteen, 412 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: Like when you're a kid, I feel like you just 413 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: don't care. I love I'm awesome, Like I don't care. 414 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I love that energy. 415 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 416 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but it must have 417 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 4: been a big part of it. 418 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: Must have been my mom like really reassuring me of like, yeah, 419 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: do whatever you want, like, oh, you want to edit, 420 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 2: you want to post? Like I mean, she would make 421 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: me work for things to meet me halfway with buying 422 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: a new computer or whatever else it was. But she 423 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: for the most part, she was like, whatever you want 424 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: to do. As my channel started to grow, when I 425 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: was like fifteen, sixteen, it really started to grow, and 426 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: then that's when it became a little I was a 427 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: little bit of like an outcast of like it was like, oh, 428 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: weird YouTube girl, you know, posting again. 429 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I could see that happening. 430 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: But then it's like, I like love the confidence factor though, 431 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 3: because I think anytime anybody does anything in confidence, it's like, 432 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: what are you gonna say? 433 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: It was kind of like that where I loved my 434 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: videos and it was like, guys, I've been you know. 435 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: I started getting teased and made fun of more when 436 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: I was like sixteen, when the channel started to do well, 437 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: But it was like I've. 438 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: Been going to the same school. I've been doing this 439 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 4: for three years, Like where's the. 440 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: Like why are we making this a joke? All of 441 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: a sudden, like it's like we know that I've been 442 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: loving to do this. Like so it was a little 443 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: bit hurtful, but at the same time, it's like I 444 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: get it. It did make me insecure, but it didn't 445 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: at the same time. I mean, I wanted to quit, 446 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: like for sure when I got I think I was 447 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: a junior and like, I loved my life. I loved 448 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: my videos, I loved my friends. But when you're going 449 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: to school and you feel like a little unwelcomed, that's 450 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: when I was like, Okay, I still want my friends, 451 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: I still want YouTube, but this is like a really 452 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: weird dynamic. 453 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: Here at school. 454 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: And so I tried to let my mom or I 455 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: tried to convince my mom to let me drop out. 456 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: And it was just a little bit awkward because my 457 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: house was so close to the school that it's like, Okay, 458 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: are you really going to drop out of high school 459 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: because people are being mean to you to go sit 460 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: in your room, make videos in your room, do school 461 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: in your room, and be isolated. And so my mom's like, 462 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: you should really try to stay. And I ended up staying, 463 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: and thankfully it got so much better. I think people 464 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: people always come around. Yeah, Like it sucked. It sucked 465 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: junior year, Like I really don't think people liked me, 466 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: and I didn't have that many close friends, but I 467 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: had my siblings, I had a great boyfriend, like, I 468 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: had a great support system. It all ended up fine, 469 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: and my senior year. I had a great year. 470 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: It's hard when you're in a situation where you're at 471 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: school and like you're kind of like in this unique 472 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: situation where you're the only person doing what you were 473 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 3: doing right, like you were the only person putting yourself 474 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: out there in that way. I know, I as a 475 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: content creator for the past couple years, have made such 476 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: great friends within the industry. I'm curious, like, when you 477 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: were in high school, was it nice making friends with 478 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: other girls and guys that were in the industry that 479 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 3: kind of saw what you were doing and understood it 480 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: on another level. 481 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: It was so comforting to have friends outside of my 482 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: high school that saw. 483 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: Me for me. 484 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: They weren't like judging literally anything, and they they got 485 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: it because like they were doing their own thing with 486 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: social media too, So it was so nice to have 487 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: friends in the industry. It was like probably my favorite 488 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: part about like everything. 489 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: Did you see a lot of growth from having close 490 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: friends with the industry that you were creating content with 491 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: and all of you guys were collabing. 492 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: It was really fun because it was like on the weekends, 493 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: if I got a chance to go, is it one 494 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: of my friends? 495 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna go, like I'm going to 496 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: go see my friends. 497 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: And so that was my escape to go see my friends, 498 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: go have fun, make videos, come back, go to school, 499 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: edit my videos, post them. Like I was on a 500 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: roll and being able to take those weekend trips and 501 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: like see my friends. It filled me up so much, 502 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: like I was having so much fun. I've met so 503 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: many like amazing people through YouTube, so many like opportunities 504 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: through YouTube, and I think it's like those are some 505 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: of the friendships and relationships that like inspired me and 506 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: like kept me going, and. 507 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 3: They understand you on a level that is so like 508 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: just so different when people know you from like the 509 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: root of it all. Do you remember the first time 510 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: you got recognized in public. 511 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 4: I was at a. 512 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: Football game and someone from the other school came into 513 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: our student section and like saw me, and they were like, 514 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: oh my god. 515 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: Like I watch your videos. 516 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: But I was so confused, So like, no one's ever 517 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: like watch my videos or like come up to me 518 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: and said that in person. It was all online like 519 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: little comments, and so for someone to come up to 520 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: me and be like, oh my. 521 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: Gosh, no, I've seen your videos, I was like, wait, really, 522 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 4: whoa it must have felt so rewarding. 523 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: No, it was it was cool too to like, yeah, 524 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: meet them in person. And I don't think I wasn't 525 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: growing back then at all, So it was like I 526 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: think I met that person, and then maybe it was 527 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: a couple months and then someone else would say, oh, 528 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: I've seen your videos before and I was like, oh 529 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: my gosh, really, and then it was just kind of 530 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: slow after that, but it was cool. 531 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do remember the first time. 532 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: It's like an adrenaline rush because you're like what, And 533 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: I swear it's like it's whenever you have like a 534 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: rush of adrenaline, you remember those moments you. 535 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Do, whether it's like a scary moment or a happy moment. 536 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm like, oh, is this embarrassing? Like did 537 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: you like it? Or like it is this embarrassing stuff? 538 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: It's not embarrassing. 539 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: It's very cool. 540 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: Like I was always so impressed by you and I 541 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: thought it was so inspiring, So I think it's awesome. 542 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: You ended up graduating high school and then I know 543 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: you took a gap year and you moved to Hawaii, right. 544 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I took a gap year and I COVID 545 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: happened after that gap year, so it was like I 546 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: moved back home. 547 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: It was more of like two years. 548 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: How did you decide to do a gap year versus 549 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: going to school. 550 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: I think I just knew, like YouTube was all I 551 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: had been doing during high school, and I've always wanted 552 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: to pursue film or marketing something in that category. 553 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: But I was like, Okay, I've been doing this for 554 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: five years. 555 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: I can continue with it, and I can always go 556 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: back to school. 557 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: And the craziest thing, really quick, is that you were 558 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 3: supporting yourself by the time you were how. 559 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: Old I would say, like seventeen, yeah, seventeen and eighteen yeah, 560 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: And I didn't really even know, like back then, like 561 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: this could you know last it could be a career. 562 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, this is cool that this. 563 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: Is happening right now. But I didn't know I was 564 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: going to continue to do it or if I was 565 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: going to, yeah, stop and go to college. But I 566 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: just put so much work into YouTube that I was like, no, 567 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: I don't really want to give up. 568 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 4: I really want to still pursue it. 569 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: And then all my friends were at school, so it 570 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: was a little bit more isolating than I thought, because 571 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: I was like a little bit. 572 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: Alone still doing YouTube. 573 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: It felt like, okay, I'm still doing YouTube, Like what else. 574 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: Can I do? 575 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: Then? And you were still in Michigan. 576 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: I was still in Michigan. I had my apartment alone, 577 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: and I just felt like, all right. 578 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 3: Oh, so at eighteen, like when your friends went to 579 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: college and you decided to take the gap year, you 580 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 3: got your own apartment. 581 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty cool. 582 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: So but I was just in my apartment. 583 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: I was working out, I was you know, I'd see 584 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: my friends when I could, but like, it kind of 585 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: felt like, yeah, I was doing YouTube still and my 586 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: friends went to college. 587 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 4: It just felt a little weird. I thought I was. 588 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: Going to travel more, but that didn't really end up happening. 589 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: I thought I was going to travel all these places, 590 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: but then you don't want to travel alone because you're eighteen, 591 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: and it's like how do you find someone to travel 592 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: with you and help you with your stuff? But then 593 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: COVID happened, and so I just moved back to my 594 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: mom's house and she was like, all right, well, if 595 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: you're going to be here, you're going to take some 596 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: college classes. So I was like, okay, I'll take college 597 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: classes and yeah. Then I did some online school for 598 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: a little bit. And that's when I was doing online 599 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: school in Michigan. I mean it was in the middle 600 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: of winter, so I was like, shoot, I kind of 601 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: want to just do online. 602 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 4: School in Hawaii for a little bit and just see 603 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 4: how I like it. 604 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: Because I epic mindset, right, it was like, let me 605 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: just go to Hawaii. 606 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: It was really fun. 607 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: And then one of my best friends, Eva, like lived 608 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: on a Wahoo so I was like, Okay, one of 609 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: my best friends is there. If all you know goes wrong, 610 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: I just go I'll go back to Michigan. But it 611 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: was kind of just like, I want to do online 612 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: school in Hawaii for a little bit. It's nicer there. 613 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: I can still work like I can work anywhere. 614 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: And is it true that you had moved there with 615 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: the intention of like being there for one month and 616 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: then you quickly were like, let me just make this 617 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: two like a year, and then it became two right. 618 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. 619 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: Like I moved there and within the first week I 620 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: was like, I really want to look for a spot 621 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: longer than a month. 622 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: I feel like that was probably so fun for you too, 623 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: because by moving to Hawaii and being with all kids 624 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: your age You're like, that was kind of your college experience. 625 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it was for a little bit. 626 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: I think it was such a unique time where I 627 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: didn't really even know. I didn't know I was going 628 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: to go there and all that was going to happen. 629 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was like my leaving my hometown experience, 630 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: and so that was my first time like really meeting 631 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: people in a new community and figuring all that out 632 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: for myself. 633 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: How do you feel like you grew as a person 634 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: being in Hawaii. 635 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: I've learned so so much from living there. Yeah. 636 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: I feel like it's one of those places that's like 637 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: very spiritual and kind of changes you and is. 638 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 4: In the culture so beautiful there. 639 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: I think the biggest part about the Hawaiian culture is 640 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: to be respectful, and everyone there is so kind and 641 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: patient that I've learned so much just from being there, 642 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: and I love living there. I love the lifestyle, I 643 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: love the culture, and I think that's the biggest thing 644 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: I've taken away is to just be respectful. Because when 645 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: I first moved there, I was just like, oh, I'm 646 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: just going for a couple months, Like I didn't know 647 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: what I was doing, and I was just you know, 648 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: documenting documenting everything like I normally do, and once you 649 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: take a step back from that, it's like slow it down, 650 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: look at everything, and now I'm much more like intentional. 651 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: And it's such a beautiful place too. 652 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: Hawaii is one of the places that I've never been 653 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: and I am dying to go. It's just such a 654 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: far trip from the East Coast. We're going to be 655 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: in LA for January and maybe February, so I'm like, 656 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: we're going to get in at least one or two 657 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 3: weekend trips to go see it because I have some 658 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: friends that are like obsessed with going. I'm like, I 659 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: really need to go, especially from LA. 660 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: It's not that bad. 661 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: Going back to uh, Hawaii when you were eighteen, that's 662 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: when you started Starlight Village, right, your jewelry brand while 663 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: you were there. 664 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: So I started Starlight when I was eighteen. Started Starlight 665 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: did that a little bit with partners. So my first 666 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: partner was in LA and then my next partner was 667 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: in New York and so I basically just did all 668 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: the designing and marketing with them virtually, and then we 669 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: took it in house. So my partner, Makenna, she's in 670 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: Hawaii with me, so Starlight's in Hawaii. 671 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Now, what made you want to start a jewelry company? 672 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: So at first it started with like these sets. I 673 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: made these five sets of like sunsets, moonsets, lightning, bowlt 674 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: and I had different meanings behind the necklace, like oh, 675 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: when you wear the sun necklace. 676 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: You know, I hope you radiate joy. And I had 677 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: all this like. 678 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: Positive messaging behind the symbols, and so that's what inspired 679 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: to start the companies, as like, oh, I want to 680 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: make meaningful jewelry that people can wear. And then after 681 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: getting into it a little bit, I found out you 682 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: could do more with recycled jewelry and like recycled sterling silver. 683 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: And so after I figured out that we could make 684 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: jewelry sustainable and affordable or more sustainable, I was like, oh, 685 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: I really want to go that route. 686 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: I really want to go that route. 687 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: And so it was hard though, because the other two 688 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: partners that I was with, they were great to work with, 689 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: but they didn't really want to go the sustainable route 690 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: or we didn't really have the options to. 691 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: So that's when we took it in house. 692 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: Now that it's in Hawaii, we have a manufacturer that 693 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's actual recycled sterling silver, so it's like 694 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: melted down silver and it's sustainable and it's personal. 695 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: So it's changed a. 696 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: Little bit, but I mean that's cool. 697 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that it's sustainable. That's like my favorite partner. 698 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: A lot of people wanted make things that are sustainable, 699 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: but it's so hard to figure it out at first. 700 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: So it's cool knowing that, like you guys eventually got 701 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: to that point where now it's a sustainable brand. 702 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: And I know you just said it your first pop 703 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: up in New York City. 704 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: That was so fun. Yeah, that was so fun. 705 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: I was with So it was Starlight Village and then 706 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: bai Zoya, which is my friend's brand, and then we 707 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: did Funny Pretty Nice and so yeah, it was like 708 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: just a cute storefront, so fun to decorate. 709 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: Then we had all of our stuff in there and. 710 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: Our friends were working the pop up and yeah, people 711 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: would come and say hi. 712 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: It was great after doing the pop up experience. Would 713 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: you ever want to open your own store in a 714 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: city and have a permanent location or no? 715 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 4: I think that. 716 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: Could be fun. I feel like I have so much 717 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: work I want to do with the brand first, because 718 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: you need, like there has to be so many aspects 719 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: of the brand to have like a store front, So 720 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: I think I would want to continue to work on 721 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: it and like really build Starlight. 722 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: I love pop ups, like I personally think as a brand, 723 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: like pop ups are such a good route because it's 724 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: like you don't really need a storefront. 725 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: I know, the e commerce. 726 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, like if I lived in New York, 727 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: I think it'd be cool to like have a store 728 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: because then you go in and you can see people and. 729 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: That you kind of like work out of. 730 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. 731 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: So if it was that situation, I think I would, 732 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: But since I I don't know, I don't think I 733 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: would unless I lived in the city. 734 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: Could you ever see yourself living in New York? 735 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 4: I could? 736 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 2: I really could, I think realistically, I don't know if 737 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: it would happen anytime soon, But I mean I like 738 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: visiting a lot, like for. 739 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: A week or two at a time. That's perfect. 740 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: Go back to Michigan, go back to Hawaii, like whatever 741 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: it's kind of going on. 742 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: But I don't I don't know. 743 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. Your home right now is Michigan, 744 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: So it's like it's nice to be able to travel. 745 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: I think that's the best part of our jobs is 746 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: the ability to be flexible with where you live. Yeah, okay, 747 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: going off of Starlight, what are you excited about that 748 00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: you have come? 749 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 4: So for Starlight, I have a pop up actually. 750 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: In New York, which is so funny. It's with Zoya 751 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: and funny. Pretty nice. That's next, Yeah, I the pop 752 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: up is next weekend, and then at the same time, 753 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: I have a pop up in Hawaii for my friend's 754 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: fashion show. So it's the same day. There's two pop 755 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: ups going on. Oh my gosh, it's hilarious. Yeah, that's 756 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: a lot, but yeah, that's just how the timing worked out. 757 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: But that's super fun. The fashion show in Hawaii is incredible. 758 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: It's like just there's so many supportive women there, So 759 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: that'll be great. I'm gonna be there and then have 760 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: friends work this New York one. 761 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: Going off of that, I have my final question for you. 762 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 3: I like to end our podcasts with a manifestation so 763 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: that the next time I see you, we can check 764 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: in see how the manifestation has come into fruition. 765 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: But what are we manifesting for twenty twenty five? 766 00:32:52,840 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: Honestly hard work and just enjoying life with friends and family, 767 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: like really enjoying and being present. 768 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: Is there a specific thing that you want that's like 769 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: a goal that you're like, okay, like let's say. 770 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: It right now. What would be like an example for you. 771 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: I really want to master the art of conversation and 772 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: get really good at my sit down interviews. 773 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: Love that. Yeah, I'm doing a great job. Thank you. 774 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying. 775 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 4: I literally forgot we were doing a podcast. 776 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm not kidding, but like that's a very specifical 777 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: for me. 778 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: I'm changing mind. 779 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Okay, change it. 780 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 4: In the next year. 781 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: I want to get really consistent. I really just want 782 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: to put out good stuff and be consistent with it. 783 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 4: That's my Yeah, that's going to. 784 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Get what I do. I know. 785 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: Okay, that's it. I love it. Fanna having me. Thank 786 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: you so much for coming on. 787 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: So fun.