WEBVTT - A Conversation with Jets Legend Jerricho Cotchery (7/5) 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.280 We were presented by win Bet Betting is the team 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.600 sport bet together win Bet. Eric Ellen here in the studio, 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.319 joined by a special guest, one of my favorite Jets 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.119 of all time, Jericho Catri j COO. So great to 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.680 see you. Oh man, it's good to be here. Uh, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.160 first time since two thousand eleven. Yes, yes, it is so. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.760 So what was it like when the cars taking you 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.080 to the building today And what's going through your mind? 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.520 I will say, very very nostalgic, you know, um, nothing 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.600 but great memories, you know, just just start you know, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.839 flooding your mind at that point, you know, and just 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.000 walking into the building, you know, seeing that green, seeing 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.959 that white. You know, we didn't want much black when 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.559 I was here, but just seeing the colors here and 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.520 seeing the logos, man, it was a special feeling. Do 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.200 you like the black in the uniform? I do? I do? 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.800 I do. I always wanted that, you know that I 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.800 missed it. I missed it on both ends, you know, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.400 but when once I got here, they had discontinued it, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.920 and then once I left, we brought it back. Hey, 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:14.880 can you go down memory lane and tell folks what 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.120 it was like when you were drafted in all four 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.080 because we weren't at this facility. We're on Long Island, 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.560 on the campus of all Stree University. Well, first and foremost, 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.160 it was a dream come true. You know, It's something 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.880 I had worked for, you know, my entire life, you know, 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.920 to to to have that moment. And then when the 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.200 Jets called, when F five one six number popped up, 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.120 it was an exciting feeling. It was the team that 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.959 I had the best connection with, and the interview process 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.600 had to combine, and so I was very excited to 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.039 hear hear the voices on the other end of the phone. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:52.400 How were you only the sixteenth player selected in the 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:57.000 two thousand four draft class? Because only one player in 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.600 that draft class had more receiving yards in their career, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.840 and of course that was Larry Fitzgerald. Well, it was 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.280 a loaded draft for sure. You know, we had we 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.920 had every position you know, kind of feel there, you know, quarterbacks, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.440 you know, the receiver position, d lineman, you name it. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.680 All of those guys were in that draft, you know, 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.320 And so I picked a good time to come out. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.680 But it was a different time back then, because if 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.160 you look back at your numbers, oh four oh five, 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.600 you really had to remain patient because they weren't forced 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.880 feeding you into the lineup, right. And when I came, 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.959 I was welcomed into a veteran group, and that was 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.920 the blessing for me. You know, just had a bunch 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.960 of veteran guys on offense. You know, Chad Pennington at 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.080 the quarterback position, Curtis Martin at the running back position, 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:52.320 Kevin Y you know at center, Waynekerbet in the same room, 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.640 you know, learning from him, and Sentinel Moss and Justin 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.800 mccarren's all of these guys on offense. And and so 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.720 just those first two years for me was a great 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.840 learning experience because I had, you know, an offense that 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.040 was filled with vets. But were there times and you're 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.440 such a positive guy, but when were there times that 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.960 you went home and said, what is going on here? Well, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.600 for me, I've always been about the team. That's something 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.800 my dad instilled in me. You know, every time he asked, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.680 you know, about a game, you know, he asked about 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.280 how the team did first before he asked about how 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.600 I did. If he didn't see the game, and so 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.360 it was just kind of instilled in me. And you know, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.280 I was playing on all of the special teams. So 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.320 I felt like I was a starter. My wife, My 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.600 wife can attest to that. And you know, I was 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.320 a starter on special teams. You know. That's how you know, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.480 I kind of looked at it way back then, and uh, 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.680 you know, I just tried to fulfill my role to 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.440 the best of my abilities. What's your relationship like with 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.240 her mother? Words? Because one thing that he has said 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.560 post coaching Jericho contries I should have put him in 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:03.360 the lineup earlier. Well, you know, that's hindsight, you know. Um, 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.800 I knew that he loved me as a player and 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.920 as a person as well. And uh, and he was 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.440 a big part of me feeling like I had to 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.000 that that best connection, you know, with with the Jets 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.320 because of that interview process, you know. And uh, he's 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.400 the reason why I had I wore the number eighty nine. 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.400 You know, I wanted to switch back to my college 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.400 number eighty two. Um, but he kept saying eight nine 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.279 and eight nine the entire training camp, And by the 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.000 end of training camp, I said, I guess I have 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.440 to keep eighty nine. What clicked in all six he 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.680 took off? I know, opportunity obviously did put you on 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:44.000 the field. But the production was there. And what would 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:49.040 you say in terms of when was it like clear 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.160 in your mind that hey man, I'm gonna be here 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.159 for a while. Well, just the learning process over those 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.360 first two years. Uh, just soaking up all of the 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.080 information I was getting from the VET. Uh that that 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.880 took me under their wings, you know. And um, you know, 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.039 once Lavernis Cold came the colds came back in two 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.440 thousand and five. He was instrumental in that. UM and 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.000 by the time I hit my third year, everything was 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.159 just slowed down, you know. I just it just felt 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.520 like college again for me. And you know, once the 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.080 first game hit, first game of the year versus Tennessee, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.320 the Tennessee Titans, and OH six scored a touchdown, and 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.640 I felt like there was no turning back after that. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.680 There was no turning back after that. Your first postseason experience, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.520 you guys didn't get to win in New England, but 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:40.080 you go for over a hundred yards receiving. Uh what 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:46.320 was how would you remember that OH six campaign? Um? 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.600 You know it. I just felt comfortable that entire season, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.360 you know, just kept felt comfortable with my game, Uh, 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:57.360 felt comfortable with my preparation and you know, just my 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.679 ability to go out and make plays, you know, and 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.640 just the way that we prepared each and every week, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.840 you know, under the coaching staff that we had coach 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:11.080 man Jeanie and Brian Shardenheimmer running the offense. Just you know, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.040 every week, I felt prepared to go out and make plays. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.080 And uh, and so I think that was the that 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.480 was that was the biggest thing about it. Oh seven, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:24.320 your numbers continue to send, But obviously the team took 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:29.200 a step back for a number of reasons. What was 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.120 your reaction when you heard that the Jets that traded 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:38.240 for Far and Away, Well, it was you know, a 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.520 little bitter sweet in in a in a sense because yeah, 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.920 Chad Pennison. Uh we we were part of ways with 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.520 Chad Pennington, and then we brought in this exciting figure 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.720 you know to come in and sling the ball around, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.680 you know, and so, uh, it was it was sad 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.280 to see Chad go because he was instrumental in my 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.880 development as well, you know, as far as that that 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.839 quarterback to receive a communication that needs to happen on 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.160 a daily basis, um that that was no longer there. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.880 But when Brett came in, obviously he had been in 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.080 the league for a long time doing his thing, and um, 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.200 the communication Paul was natural to him. So everybody was excited. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.360 And I remember the first practice he was there. I mean, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.239 we have fans out there two hours before the first practice, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.840 just filling up the stands out there on Long Island, 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.000 and uh, it was there was a lot of excitement 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:33.920 about that. What are plenty to meet your career? Well, uh, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.680 he meant a lot because of his his ability to 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.440 address you know, not only the professional part of it, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.520 but the personal part of it. You know, UM, just 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.000 letting guys know when they came in as as young rookies, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.080 we met with veterans. We have veteran guys, and so 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.160 our first rickey meeting was with veteran guys, and you know, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.840 Chad encouraged them coming up and speaking to us. But 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.480 with Chad making sure that we knew that we had 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.080 to put in the time, you know, studying our playbook, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:08.040 put in the time, taking care of our bodies, um, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.200 and just making sure we're we're we're just taking care 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.360 of every part of what it means to be be 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.960 a professional, you know, and and that that involves the 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.440 personal aspect of it. How good was that team? And 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.560 oh wait you were eight and three. You went into 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:28.320 Tennessee winning in Nashville and put on a thumping there. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.600 I mean that team was undefeated. Trying to know and 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.800 then things kind of fellow apart, dumb stretch. We were 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.040 really good, Yeah, I mean we were really good. We um, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.120 we had the makings of of a team that can 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.640 do it. You know, they can win it all. And 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:48.040 you know, just things that happened and throughout the natural 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.720 course of a season, you know, with with injuries and 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.200 things of that nature, that kind of affects your ability 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.520 to to push forward. And unfortunately that that happened more 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.199 so at the quarterback position than anything that that that 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.800 played a big, big factor in us, you know, kind 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.160 of going into that slump at the end of the year. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.400 How direct change the dynamic of this club And on 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.040 night just him entering the building, but just a free 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.559 flowing atmosphere. Um, you know, guys, guys just felt more 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.520 relaxed and felt more comfortable to go out and do 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:22.440 their jobs. And um, you know, guys were just having 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.680 a lot of fun doing doing doing what we do, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.760 you know, and that's played played this child's game or football. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.520 You know, it's it's supposed to be fun. We know 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.440 we have work to do, but um, the fun aspect 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.000 is always in it. And um, that's that's what he brought. 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.160 He brought a lot of fun and guys enjoy that. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.120 And you saw that free spirited nature that we had 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.440 each and every week, you know when we when we 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.520 stepped out on the field. Listen, you experienced a lot 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.559 of success with different quarterbacks. It was of course to 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.439 your career because you don't play from old four to 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.960 fifteen if you can't make adjustments. With that being said, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.719 how tough was it for you to go from puntington 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.200 too far to see chest? And that's not taking anything 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.000 away from Mark. That's just a kid who started a 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.280 number of games at USC, comes out early and walks 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.400 into the situation, which it was a good situation, but 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:23.280 still he's an experienced signal caller. Yeah, that's the frustrating 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.600 part about about my entire career. You know, I look 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.319 back and I say, man, I had all of these 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.120 great guys, but then when you look at it closely, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.880 it's like I never had them long enough. You know, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:35.839 a lot of these guys get to play with the 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.199 same QB for well over a decade. Right, then they 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.800 get to reap the benefits from from that, you know, 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.360 But I never never got that chance. And I felt 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.959 like I was climbing with Chad. And then we had 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.480 the quarterback change there, and then another quarterback change, So 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.640 three three quarterbacks, three different quarterbacks and three three years 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.760 and and so you're constantly working on the chemistry. You're 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.360 constantly working on things, things that you know, uh, that 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.800 would help you succeed on the field, you know, But 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.920 that that that inconsistency is just gonna gonna creep in 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.760 at some point, you know. So yeah, you know, it 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.760 would have been fun. And you always took the high road, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:21.679 don't matter what came your way. Um, was that something 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.920 you talked about how you were raised? Is that just 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.199 something that you knew, Hey, this is how you're gonna 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.040 handle the adversity no matter what happens. Well, people knew 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.240 I was about the Jets. It was about the Jets 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:39.480 winning force first and foremost. And everybody that knows me 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.280 knows that, you know, and and so I wasn't going 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.600 to make it about me when it comes to numbers 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.280 or things of that nature. I didn't play for the numbers. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.640 I played to to lock arms with the guys beside me, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.040 and uh and go out and try to try to 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.080 do something special, you know. And uh we we had 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.400 a lot of winning years, you know, during the time 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.440 I was here, and and that's something I look back 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.000 on and really really have great memories about. Win bet 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.599 is not Live in New Jersey and they're bringing the 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.240 excitement of win Las Vegas to online sports betting, getting 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.720 on all your favorite teams, players and sports from boosteap 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.079 partlays to live in game odds on every major sport. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.280 They have what you need to win. 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You have more than a hundred yards receiving 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.520 in that game, you have a double digit lead against 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:54.199 Peyton Manning and his building. What stands out about on 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:59.280 night just that breakthrough. You know, you felt like you 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.880 were a team, you know that that can push forward 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.679 in the playoffs. You felt like you had the components, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.480 you know, the go and win it all. And and 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.960 you know, we we we battled throughout that entire year 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.360 and then it came down to the last two games 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.120 of the year to make it into the playoffs, and 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.000 we wore those and got into the playoffs. People thought 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.040 we backed into the playoffs, and then we showed up, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.960 you know, we showed up and we played well, and 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.440 uh it was just a fun ride. And the biggest 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:35.160 thing about about that ride was the Jets fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.280 you know, because we're going on the road, right, We're 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.079 going on the road. And when we stepped foot into 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.080 those hotels, j E T S, Jets, Jets, Jets all 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.840 over the place, and uh, that was that was a 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.839 fun a fun ride ride for us all. So I'm 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.320 getting goose bumps listening to you know, honestly, God, because 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.440 you're talking about the fans and the connection they have 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.440 with you and how loud they were during those runs. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.120 But there was a moment for me that stands out 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.760 that defines your career and defines who you are. That's 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:11.600 Cleveland two thousand and ten. Can you take me through 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.600 that play from your advantage point and what happened, Because 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.839 there's some people listening and watching who didn't have an 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.080 opportunity to see that. They can look it up on 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.760 YouTube right now, I suggest they do to find out 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.040 what eighty nine was all about. Well, you know, coming 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.400 off of the line of scriments, you know, UM going 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.960 against the defender that I was going against. You know, 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.880 dbs do their their normal thing. They try to get 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.280 away with the little tugs, and this dB in particular 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.680 tugged by handle Warmer. And when he did that, as 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.920 I was pulling away from him by growing Popp just 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.040 felt the pop boom popping them like man right in 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.480 the middle of the play. And so I'm hopping through 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.200 um and it looks like Sanchez was going to get sacked, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.160 and so now I got to kind of hopping in 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.840 in position where where he can see me. A little bit, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:05.280 but not really a valuable option, you know. And he 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.480 turns out and he's looking dead at me, and I 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.720 know he's throwing it to me, and you gotta come alive. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.200 You gotta come alive and go and make that play 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.080 for the team. At that point third and eight when 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.400 I caught it, you know, just just trying to be 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.600 mindful of of what the first down marker is and 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.240 make sure I got the first down, you know before 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.160 I you know, had to make my way off the 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:29.920 feel how much does adrenaline adrenaline override the pain at 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:34.400 that point? Oh, I mean just just what you're how 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.440 are you how you phrased the question in the beginning, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.520 you know, just the mentality of it and um, and 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.840 obviously that that adrenaline is gonna kick in when you 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.720 have that, you know, kind of that mentality is just 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.920 by any means, you know, just kind of helped the 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.040 team out in any way you can, and uh, well 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.520 we'll get the rest fixed. You know. After the game 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:59.120 ten an amazing run, you go to man in his his place, 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.760 you guys get it done in that final minute crow 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:07.280 as the return Sanchez, it's bray um and then you 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.640 go to New England. What was the experience like for 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.560 you to go to Gillette Stadium after taking that pounding 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.760 three about a month before. Well, we were ready for 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.480 that moment, right we Uh, we made a big deal 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.840 about that moment right after after they beat us forty 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.520 three up there in Gillette and we're both were nine 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.080 in two something like that going into that game for 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.400 the division. We felt like we were about to take 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.320 it from him. Uh and and they handed they handed 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.120 it to us, and there was a lot of you know, 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.240 uh in between the lines talking going on. And so 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.920 after that we came back and buried that ball out 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.680 there out back, and uh, we just kept that in 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.520 the back of our minds. And when it was time 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.360 to play them again, you know, we were already about 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.840 we were are we all were ready for that battle 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.600 and um and so to to go into their house 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.320 at that point in time, and and and and and 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.680 go and in advance to the FC Championship on their 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.560 field was a was a was a big, big moment. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.879 Did you have a higher moment than that that game? 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.040 Because you made so many contributions over the course of 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:22.200 your career here up until eleven, but in terms of 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:27.640 the lights being on the situation, how much that game 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:33.600 met in the rivalry. Did anything that clips up I 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.040 don't know, I don't know. I mean, that's that's the 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.240 one to think about right there. I mean, with with 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.959 everything surrounding the game and the way that they handled 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:46.040 us in that that second game in the regular season, UM, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:47.919 no one really thought we were going to go in 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.080 there and beat them, but we all felt like we were, 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.240 you know, and so going into that matchup and just 0:17:55.480 --> 0:18:00.840 um just proving ourselves right in that sense, uh was 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.560 was really fun. And so that that has to rank 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.439 up there for sure. So it ranks up there. But 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.520 what were your favorite moments during that game? Because you 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.840 made some key catches, one over the middle that stands 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.919 out to everybody, just nation where there's so many there 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:21.359 are so many, you know, um, um Braylen's touchdown before halftime, 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.040 uh LT had a nice grown um for his touchdown. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.959 Santonio Holmes his touchdown, and then um just when when 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.520 they were battling back, just having that opportunity to step 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.639 up in that moment with the long pass to catch 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.480 a run that I had. Um, it was just all 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.159 of that, All of that was just just fun to 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.920 be a part of and then Sean Green sealing the deal, 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.480 you know by with his long run down the sideline 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.359 and uh going to sleep on the ball. We're not 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.920 gonna talk too much about Pittsburgh. I talked to Sanchez 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.040 about this a couple of weeks ago. But how would 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:04.000 that been different? What what needed to change for you 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:09.600 guys to win that game? Man? That's I mean, that's 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:14.760 you know, I think after that game, UM kind of 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.879 made a bad statement and saying that, you know, talking 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.560 about how much they wanted it, Um, But we wanted it, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.919 you know, we wanted it as a group. Uh, the 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.600 hunger in our eyes. It was. It was the same 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.480 a week before. Um. Just one of those days, man, 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.840 just just those those those moments where guys step up 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.080 and make plays. And they had a bunch of guys 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.760 on their side that did that. You know, as far 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.240 as you know, the defense is concerned with the strip 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.920 sack and they ran it back forward touchdown. UM ended 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.639 up being being a big difference in the game eleven. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:56.119 It ends for you here as a jet Um. Do 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:00.439 you ever go back and say, Man, I don't think 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.240 you live like that. But with that being said, all 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:08.280 these contributions such a talented guy, so ingrained in the community. 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.800 Not only make contributions on the field, but you were 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.480 a dude who went out in the community. Everybody loved 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:19.920 you in the building. Um, how tough was that saying goodbye? Yeah, 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.959 that was really tough. And that's that's something that's you know, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.360 since since that day, that's been been really tough every 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:31.520 time you revisited, you know, Um, because because like I 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.800 said in the beginning, I'm about the Jets, you know, 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.679 and that's kind of that's kind of however, mindset was 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.760 my my entire family's mindset. My dad, you know, that 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.440 path he passed away in two thousand and eighteen, he 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.679 still had that Jets tag on on the front of 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.520 his car. You know. I had moved on and played 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.320 for two different teams after that, but he never took 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.080 that Jets tag off the off that car. You know, 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.879 it's still on it, you know. And so that's kind 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:04.000 how you know, we we we roll really, you know. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.040 And uh so, so it was tough. It was tough 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.800 for sure. Um, but I'm glad to be back, Glad 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.400 to be back. We're pumped to have you back. What 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:17.159 drew you into coaching because I know you were on 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.879 Rivera's staff in Carolina and now you can tell us 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.600 what you're doing on the college level. Just my love 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.879 for the game. Love for the game, you know. Um, 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.919 just football from Birmingham, Alabama. You know, as soon as 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.320 you're born, they put a football in your hand, you know. 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.040 And then actually who you're rooting for? Alabama, Alvern, you know. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.800 But but I just love a ball. Uh. And that's 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.439 at the end of the day, that's that's what it is. 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.639 And and so right now that love for the game 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:49.040 has taken me down to Limestone University down in Gafney, 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.040 South Carolina. I'm working for an unbelievable head coach and 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.080 Mike Ferry with an unbelievable staff down there that he's 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.560 put together. And uh, and so we're having a blast 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.160 right now. We've only been on the job for almost 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.959 three months now, but we've had we've had a blast 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.800