1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: We were presented by win Bet Betting is the team 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: sport bet together win Bet. Eric Ellen here in the studio, 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: joined by a special guest, one of my favorite Jets 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: of all time, Jericho Catri j COO. So great to 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: see you. Oh man, it's good to be here. Uh, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: first time since two thousand eleven. Yes, yes, it is so. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: So what was it like when the cars taking you 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: to the building today And what's going through your mind? 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: I will say, very very nostalgic, you know, um, nothing 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: but great memories, you know, just just start you know, 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: flooding your mind at that point, you know, and just 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: walking into the building, you know, seeing that green, seeing 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: that white. You know, we didn't want much black when 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: I was here, but just seeing the colors here and 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: seeing the logos, man, it was a special feeling. Do 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: you like the black in the uniform? I do? I do? 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: I do. I always wanted that, you know that I 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: missed it. I missed it on both ends, you know, 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: but when once I got here, they had discontinued it, 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: and then once I left, we brought it back. Hey, 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: can you go down memory lane and tell folks what 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: it was like when you were drafted in all four 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: because we weren't at this facility. We're on Long Island, 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: on the campus of all Stree University. Well, first and foremost, 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: it was a dream come true. You know, It's something 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: I had worked for, you know, my entire life, you know, 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: to to to have that moment. And then when the 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Jets called, when F five one six number popped up, 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: it was an exciting feeling. It was the team that 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: I had the best connection with, and the interview process 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: had to combine, and so I was very excited to 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: hear hear the voices on the other end of the phone. 33 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: How were you only the sixteenth player selected in the 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: two thousand four draft class? Because only one player in 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: that draft class had more receiving yards in their career, 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: and of course that was Larry Fitzgerald. Well, it was 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: a loaded draft for sure. You know, we had we 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: had every position you know, kind of feel there, you know, quarterbacks, 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, the receiver position, d lineman, you name it. 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: All of those guys were in that draft, you know, 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: And so I picked a good time to come out. 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: But it was a different time back then, because if 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: you look back at your numbers, oh four oh five, 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: you really had to remain patient because they weren't forced 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: feeding you into the lineup, right. And when I came, 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: I was welcomed into a veteran group, and that was 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: the blessing for me. You know, just had a bunch 48 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: of veteran guys on offense. You know, Chad Pennington at 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, Curtis Martin at the running back position, 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Y you know at center, Waynekerbet in the same room, 51 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, learning from him, and Sentinel Moss and Justin 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: mccarren's all of these guys on offense. And and so 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: just those first two years for me was a great 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: learning experience because I had, you know, an offense that 55 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: was filled with vets. But were there times and you're 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: such a positive guy, but when were there times that 57 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: you went home and said, what is going on here? Well, 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: for me, I've always been about the team. That's something 59 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: my dad instilled in me. You know, every time he asked, 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, about a game, you know, he asked about 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: how the team did first before he asked about how 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: I did. If he didn't see the game, and so 63 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: it was just kind of instilled in me. And you know, 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: I was playing on all of the special teams. So 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I felt like I was a starter. My wife, My 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: wife can attest to that. And you know, I was 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: a starter on special teams. You know. That's how you know, 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I kind of looked at it way back then, and uh, 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, I just tried to fulfill my role to 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: the best of my abilities. What's your relationship like with 71 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: her mother? Words? Because one thing that he has said 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: post coaching Jericho contries I should have put him in 73 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: the lineup earlier. Well, you know, that's hindsight, you know. Um, 74 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I knew that he loved me as a player and 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: as a person as well. And uh, and he was 76 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: a big part of me feeling like I had to 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: that that best connection, you know, with with the Jets 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: because of that interview process, you know. And uh, he's 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: the reason why I had I wore the number eighty nine. 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to switch back to my college 81 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: number eighty two. Um, but he kept saying eight nine 82 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: and eight nine the entire training camp, And by the 83 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: end of training camp, I said, I guess I have 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: to keep eighty nine. What clicked in all six he 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: took off? I know, opportunity obviously did put you on 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: the field. But the production was there. And what would 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: you say in terms of when was it like clear 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: in your mind that hey man, I'm gonna be here 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: for a while. Well, just the learning process over those 90 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: first two years. Uh, just soaking up all of the 91 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: information I was getting from the VET. Uh that that 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: took me under their wings, you know. And um, you know, 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: once Lavernis Cold came the colds came back in two 94 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: thousand and five. He was instrumental in that. UM and 95 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: by the time I hit my third year, everything was 96 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: just slowed down, you know. I just it just felt 97 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: like college again for me. And you know, once the 98 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: first game hit, first game of the year versus Tennessee, 99 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, and OH six scored a touchdown, and 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I felt like there was no turning back after that. 101 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: There was no turning back after that. Your first postseason experience, 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: you guys didn't get to win in New England, but 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: you go for over a hundred yards receiving. Uh what 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: was how would you remember that OH six campaign? Um? 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: You know it. I just felt comfortable that entire season, 106 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, just kept felt comfortable with my game, Uh, 107 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: felt comfortable with my preparation and you know, just my 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: ability to go out and make plays, you know, and 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: just the way that we prepared each and every week, 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, under the coaching staff that we had coach 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: man Jeanie and Brian Shardenheimmer running the offense. Just you know, 112 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: every week, I felt prepared to go out and make plays. 113 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: And uh, and so I think that was the that 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: was that was the biggest thing about it. Oh seven, 115 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: your numbers continue to send, But obviously the team took 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: a step back for a number of reasons. What was 117 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: your reaction when you heard that the Jets that traded 118 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: for Far and Away, Well, it was you know, a 119 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: little bitter sweet in in a in a sense because yeah, 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Chad Pennison. Uh we we were part of ways with 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: Chad Pennington, and then we brought in this exciting figure 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: you know to come in and sling the ball around, 123 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, and so, uh, it was it was sad 124 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: to see Chad go because he was instrumental in my 125 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: development as well, you know, as far as that that 126 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: quarterback to receive a communication that needs to happen on 127 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: a daily basis, um that that was no longer there. 128 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: But when Brett came in, obviously he had been in 129 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: the league for a long time doing his thing, and um, 130 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: the communication Paul was natural to him. So everybody was excited. 131 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: And I remember the first practice he was there. I mean, 132 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: we have fans out there two hours before the first practice, 133 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: just filling up the stands out there on Long Island, 134 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and uh, it was there was a lot of excitement 135 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: about that. What are plenty to meet your career? Well, uh, 136 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: he meant a lot because of his his ability to 137 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: address you know, not only the professional part of it, 138 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: but the personal part of it. You know, UM, just 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: letting guys know when they came in as as young rookies, 140 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: we met with veterans. We have veteran guys, and so 141 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: our first rickey meeting was with veteran guys, and you know, 142 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: Chad encouraged them coming up and speaking to us. But 143 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: with Chad making sure that we knew that we had 144 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: to put in the time, you know, studying our playbook, 145 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: put in the time, taking care of our bodies, um, 146 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and just making sure we're we're we're just taking care 147 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: of every part of what it means to be be 148 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: a professional, you know, and and that that involves the 149 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: personal aspect of it. How good was that team? And 150 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: oh wait you were eight and three. You went into 151 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee winning in Nashville and put on a thumping there. 152 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean that team was undefeated. Trying to know and 153 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: then things kind of fellow apart, dumb stretch. We were 154 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: really good, Yeah, I mean we were really good. We um, 155 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: we had the makings of of a team that can 156 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: do it. You know, they can win it all. And 157 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, just things that happened and throughout the natural 158 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: course of a season, you know, with with injuries and 159 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: things of that nature, that kind of affects your ability 160 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: to to push forward. And unfortunately that that happened more 161 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: so at the quarterback position than anything that that that 162 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: played a big, big factor in us, you know, kind 163 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: of going into that slump at the end of the year. 164 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: How direct change the dynamic of this club And on 165 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: night just him entering the building, but just a free 166 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: flowing atmosphere. Um, you know, guys, guys just felt more 167 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: relaxed and felt more comfortable to go out and do 168 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: their jobs. And um, you know, guys were just having 169 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing doing doing what we do, 170 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, and that's played played this child's game or football. 171 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's supposed to be fun. We know 172 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: we have work to do, but um, the fun aspect 173 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: is always in it. And um, that's that's what he brought. 174 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: He brought a lot of fun and guys enjoy that. 175 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: And you saw that free spirited nature that we had 176 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: each and every week, you know when we when we 177 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: stepped out on the field. Listen, you experienced a lot 178 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: of success with different quarterbacks. It was of course to 179 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: your career because you don't play from old four to 180 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: fifteen if you can't make adjustments. With that being said, 181 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: how tough was it for you to go from puntington 182 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: too far to see chest? And that's not taking anything 183 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: away from Mark. That's just a kid who started a 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: number of games at USC, comes out early and walks 185 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: into the situation, which it was a good situation, but 186 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: still he's an experienced signal caller. Yeah, that's the frustrating 187 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: part about about my entire career. You know, I look 188 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: back and I say, man, I had all of these 189 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: great guys, but then when you look at it closely, 190 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: it's like I never had them long enough. You know, 191 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys get to play with the 192 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: same QB for well over a decade. Right, then they 193 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: get to reap the benefits from from that, you know, 194 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: But I never never got that chance. And I felt 195 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: like I was climbing with Chad. And then we had 196 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback change there, and then another quarterback change, So 197 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: three three quarterbacks, three different quarterbacks and three three years 198 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: and and so you're constantly working on the chemistry. You're 199 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: constantly working on things, things that you know, uh, that 200 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: would help you succeed on the field, you know, But 201 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: that that that inconsistency is just gonna gonna creep in 202 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: at some point, you know. So yeah, you know, it 203 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: would have been fun. And you always took the high road, 204 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: don't matter what came your way. Um, was that something 205 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: you talked about how you were raised? Is that just 206 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: something that you knew, Hey, this is how you're gonna 207 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: handle the adversity no matter what happens. Well, people knew 208 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: I was about the Jets. It was about the Jets 209 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: winning force first and foremost. And everybody that knows me 210 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: knows that, you know, and and so I wasn't going 211 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: to make it about me when it comes to numbers 212 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: or things of that nature. 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You have more than a hundred yards receiving 236 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: in that game, you have a double digit lead against 237 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and his building. What stands out about on 238 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: night just that breakthrough. You know, you felt like you 239 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: were a team, you know that that can push forward 240 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You felt like you had the components, 241 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, the go and win it all. And and 242 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, we we we battled throughout that entire year 243 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and then it came down to the last two games 244 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: of the year to make it into the playoffs, and 245 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: we wore those and got into the playoffs. People thought 246 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: we backed into the playoffs, and then we showed up, 247 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, we showed up and we played well, and 248 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: uh it was just a fun ride. And the biggest 249 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: thing about about that ride was the Jets fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 250 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, because we're going on the road, right, We're 251 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: going on the road. And when we stepped foot into 252 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: those hotels, j E T S, Jets, Jets, Jets all 253 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: over the place, and uh, that was that was a 254 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: fun a fun ride ride for us all. So I'm 255 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: getting goose bumps listening to you know, honestly, God, because 256 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: you're talking about the fans and the connection they have 257 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: with you and how loud they were during those runs. 258 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: But there was a moment for me that stands out 259 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: that defines your career and defines who you are. That's 260 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland two thousand and ten. Can you take me through 261 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: that play from your advantage point and what happened, Because 262 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: there's some people listening and watching who didn't have an 263 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to see that. They can look it up on 264 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: YouTube right now, I suggest they do to find out 265 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: what eighty nine was all about. Well, you know, coming 266 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: off of the line of scriments, you know, UM going 267 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: against the defender that I was going against. You know, 268 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: dbs do their their normal thing. They try to get 269 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: away with the little tugs, and this dB in particular 270 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: tugged by handle Warmer. And when he did that, as 271 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: I was pulling away from him by growing Popp just 272 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: felt the pop boom popping them like man right in 273 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the play. And so I'm hopping through 274 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: um and it looks like Sanchez was going to get sacked, 275 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: and so now I got to kind of hopping in 276 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: in position where where he can see me. A little bit, 277 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: but not really a valuable option, you know. And he 278 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: turns out and he's looking dead at me, and I 279 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: know he's throwing it to me, and you gotta come alive. 280 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: You gotta come alive and go and make that play 281 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: for the team. At that point third and eight when 282 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: I caught it, you know, just just trying to be 283 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: mindful of of what the first down marker is and 284 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: make sure I got the first down, you know before 285 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: I you know, had to make my way off the 286 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: feel how much does adrenaline adrenaline override the pain at 287 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: that point? Oh, I mean just just what you're how 288 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: are you how you phrased the question in the beginning, 289 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, just the mentality of it and um, and 290 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: obviously that that adrenaline is gonna kick in when you 291 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: have that, you know, kind of that mentality is just 292 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: by any means, you know, just kind of helped the 293 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: team out in any way you can, and uh, well 294 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: we'll get the rest fixed. You know. After the game 295 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: ten an amazing run, you go to man in his his place, 296 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: you guys get it done in that final minute crow 297 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: as the return Sanchez, it's bray um and then you 298 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: go to New England. What was the experience like for 299 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: you to go to Gillette Stadium after taking that pounding 300 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: three about a month before. Well, we were ready for 301 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: that moment, right we Uh, we made a big deal 302 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: about that moment right after after they beat us forty 303 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: three up there in Gillette and we're both were nine 304 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: in two something like that going into that game for 305 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: the division. We felt like we were about to take 306 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: it from him. Uh and and they handed they handed 307 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: it to us, and there was a lot of you know, 308 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: uh in between the lines talking going on. And so 309 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: after that we came back and buried that ball out 310 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: there out back, and uh, we just kept that in 311 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: the back of our minds. And when it was time 312 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: to play them again, you know, we were already about 313 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: we were are we all were ready for that battle 314 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: and um and so to to go into their house 315 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: at that point in time, and and and and and 316 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: go and in advance to the FC Championship on their 317 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: field was a was a was a big, big moment. 318 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: Did you have a higher moment than that that game? 319 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Because you made so many contributions over the course of 320 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: your career here up until eleven, but in terms of 321 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: the lights being on the situation, how much that game 322 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: met in the rivalry. Did anything that clips up I 323 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I mean, that's that's the 324 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: one to think about right there. I mean, with with 325 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: everything surrounding the game and the way that they handled 326 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: us in that that second game in the regular season, UM, 327 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: no one really thought we were going to go in 328 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: there and beat them, but we all felt like we were, 329 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, and so going into that matchup and just 330 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: um just proving ourselves right in that sense, uh was 331 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: was really fun. And so that that has to rank 332 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: up there for sure. So it ranks up there. But 333 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: what were your favorite moments during that game? Because you 334 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: made some key catches, one over the middle that stands 335 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: out to everybody, just nation where there's so many there 336 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: are so many, you know, um, um Braylen's touchdown before halftime, 337 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: uh LT had a nice grown um for his touchdown. 338 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: Santonio Holmes his touchdown, and then um just when when 339 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: they were battling back, just having that opportunity to step 340 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: up in that moment with the long pass to catch 341 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: a run that I had. Um, it was just all 342 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: of that, All of that was just just fun to 343 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: be a part of and then Sean Green sealing the deal, 344 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: you know by with his long run down the sideline 345 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: and uh going to sleep on the ball. We're not 346 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: gonna talk too much about Pittsburgh. I talked to Sanchez 347 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks ago. But how would 348 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: that been different? What what needed to change for you 349 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: guys to win that game? Man? That's I mean, that's 350 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think after that game, UM kind of 351 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: made a bad statement and saying that, you know, talking 352 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: about how much they wanted it, Um, But we wanted it, 353 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: you know, we wanted it as a group. Uh, the 354 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: hunger in our eyes. It was. It was the same 355 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: a week before. Um. Just one of those days, man, 356 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: just just those those those moments where guys step up 357 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: and make plays. And they had a bunch of guys 358 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: on their side that did that. You know, as far 359 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: as you know, the defense is concerned with the strip 360 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: sack and they ran it back forward touchdown. UM ended 361 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: up being being a big difference in the game eleven. 362 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: It ends for you here as a jet Um. Do 363 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: you ever go back and say, Man, I don't think 364 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: you live like that. But with that being said, all 365 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: these contributions such a talented guy, so ingrained in the community. 366 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Not only make contributions on the field, but you were 367 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: a dude who went out in the community. Everybody loved 368 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: you in the building. Um, how tough was that saying goodbye? Yeah, 369 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: that was really tough. And that's that's something that's you know, 370 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: since since that day, that's been been really tough every 371 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: time you revisited, you know, Um, because because like I 372 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: said in the beginning, I'm about the Jets, you know, 373 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: and that's kind of that's kind of however, mindset was 374 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: my my entire family's mindset. My dad, you know, that 375 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: path he passed away in two thousand and eighteen, he 376 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: still had that Jets tag on on the front of 377 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: his car. You know. I had moved on and played 378 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: for two different teams after that, but he never took 379 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: that Jets tag off the off that car. You know, 380 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: it's still on it, you know. And so that's kind 381 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: how you know, we we we roll really, you know. 382 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: And uh so, so it was tough. It was tough 383 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: for sure. Um, but I'm glad to be back, Glad 384 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: to be back. We're pumped to have you back. What 385 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: drew you into coaching because I know you were on 386 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: Rivera's staff in Carolina and now you can tell us 387 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: what you're doing on the college level. Just my love 388 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: for the game. Love for the game, you know. Um, 389 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: just football from Birmingham, Alabama. You know, as soon as 390 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: you're born, they put a football in your hand, you know. 391 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: And then actually who you're rooting for? Alabama, Alvern, you know. 392 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: But but I just love a ball. Uh. And that's 393 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's that's what it is. 394 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: And and so right now that love for the game 395 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: has taken me down to Limestone University down in Gafney, 396 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: South Carolina. I'm working for an unbelievable head coach and 397 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Mike Ferry with an unbelievable staff down there that he's 398 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: put together. And uh, and so we're having a blast 399 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: right now. We've only been on the job for almost 400 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: three months now, but we've had we've had a blast 401 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: coaching guys up, recruiting and getting ready for getting ready 402 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: for this fall. He said it. Um, growing up in Alabama, 403 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: you're giving a football to you in your hands. When 404 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: you're a kid, it's either Alabama or over. How the 405 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: heck did Yarcho Katri wind up at NC State. Did 406 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: those schools not recruit you? They did, but they backed off. 407 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: They did, but they backed off and and that's kind 408 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: of how the story went for me with the N 409 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: State in state schools and so, uh, NC State was 410 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: the first school to offer me. And that was that 411 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: came through my the guy that recruited me, my man, 412 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Joe Pate, and uh, he's stuck. He stuck with me 413 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: throughout the entire time, made sure that I was getting 414 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: everything handled as far as being eligible and getting you know, 415 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: uh admitted to NC State and so, um, they stayed there, 416 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: they day there and you know, at the end of 417 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: the day, once I went on the visit, it was 418 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: it was home for me. It was home for me. 419 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: And I committed soon after that and and signed and 420 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: I was ready to row. Do you and Philip Rivers 421 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: still talk? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do, we do. He's 422 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: he's coaching ball down down in Alabama, UM, in high school, 423 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: and so he's having a blast doing that. And that's 424 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: that's something that we had talked about, you know, while 425 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: we were in college, you know, cut playing and then 426 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: when we're done, you know, coaching high school. UM. And 427 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: Chad Pennanton kind of had that same same same mindset 428 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: as well, grown up down the street from ut YEA yeah, 429 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and so yeah, so Philip is having he's 430 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: he's having a blast doing that, you know, and I'm 431 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: rooting hard for him, and he's gonna be pretty good 432 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: this year. We got a nice football too. They do, 433 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: they do, and uh, I'm excited. I'm excited for what 434 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: they have going on. Coach Doran down there is doing 435 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: an excellent job. He's built that thing the right way. 436 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: And they got a quarterback to lead them, you know. 437 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: And they they've always played good defense, ran the ball well, 438 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: and now they got a quarterback that's uh that they 439 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: can they can go and win it. Full yeah, Devine, Larry, listen, 440 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: watch out Clemson this year is not live in New 441 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: Jersey and they're bringing the excitement of win Las Vegas 442 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: to online sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams, players, 443 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: and sports from boostep partlays to live in game odds 444 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: on every major sport. 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Well, 455 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: m would be a smart player. Um. I think at 456 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: the from the outset, you gotta you gotta feel the description, right, Uh, 457 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: you gotta get open and catch the ball and and 458 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: will help you develop in those areas. Um. But when 459 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: it comes to you know, being in my room, you 460 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: gotta have that team mindset because we're all going to 461 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: develop and we're all gonna be able to go out 462 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: and contribute in some type of way. And so we 463 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: got to have that team mindset to be able to 464 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: when our number is called, go in and and make 465 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: plays for the team and be excited about the success 466 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: of the team. Because once the success of the team 467 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: happens and everybody else is gonna gonna reap the benefits 468 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: of it. What was it like for you to watch 469 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: the Jets here at mini camp and go out on 470 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: the green grass and and just take it in as 471 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: an observer. That was really great to watch. It was 472 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: really great to watch that practice. Um just the excitement, 473 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: the enthusiasm of the guys, um, you know, just just 474 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: the way that they were flying around in the communication, 475 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, the excitement about you know, the guy making 476 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: the play. You know, whether that be offensively or defensively. 477 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: Those those guys were m h. It looks like a 478 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: close knited group already, you know. So it was it 479 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: was fun. It was fun watching their practice. It was 480 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: it was fun meeting coach and uh and and so 481 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I look I look forward and to to coming back more, 482 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, in the future. Yeah, what do you think 483 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: about Robert Sala just from Afar and kneed an opportunity 484 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: to talk to him today because you know, the players 485 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: gravitate towards him. Yeah, yeah, coach alla Um. I was 486 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: a fan of his before before the Jets, you know, 487 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: I hired him. I just really enjoyed watching him, you know, 488 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: just from a player's standpoint, right because I've played against 489 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: you know, teams that you know he's coached on, and 490 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: also coached against teams that he's coached on. But but 491 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: his excitement about his players. I mean that's you know that, 492 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: that's that's what you love of as a player. You know, 493 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: coach coaches in this. You know, he's in this with us. 494 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: And and so I've always admired at about him and 495 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: uh just just just his his his vision about how 496 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: he wants to do things and communicating that. Um that 497 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: that's always something that I've beenmired about him. How can 498 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: the receiver help a young quarterback? This whole roster is young, 499 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: but Zack Wilson's entering year two being dependable, right if 500 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: the if the quarterback is expecting you to be at 501 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: a certain spot, just be at that spot right and 502 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: and when you're at that spot, make the play right. 503 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: So the more you make plays, um, the more the 504 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: ball to come here away? Really right, because the quarterback 505 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: throws the guys that they can trust. Right if is 506 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: he gonna run the right route? You know, is he 507 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: going to make a play for me? And uh, and 508 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: so that's that's kind of how the quarterbacks, you know, 509 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: view it overall, Right, does this guy know what he's doing? 510 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: Is he gonna make a play for him? I'm not 511 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: gonna ask you for a scouting report on every receiver 512 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: out there. That would not be fair of me. But 513 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: what just think just watching the group as a whole. 514 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: Yea Corey Davis, who's a veteran receiver, Elijah Moore entering 515 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: year to the Jets, drafted Garrett Wilson in the first round, 516 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: number ten overall, they got Braxton Burials back. Well, it's 517 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: a group that has a little bit of everything. You 518 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: got big bodies in there, and you got you got 519 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: fast guys, you got quick guys. Um, the physical part 520 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: of it is in the group. Uh, you know, it's 521 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: a group to be excited about, you know. And uh 522 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: and so coach coach Austin is gonna do a great 523 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: job with him. He has done a great job with 524 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: him so far, and uh so I'm looking forward to 525 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: seeing that development. What do you think about the way 526 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: receivers salaries have just exploded across the National Football League? Yeah? 527 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: Really really good for them. You know. Um, it's a 528 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: position man that it's hard to make it. It's hard 529 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: to make it in this league at that position. And 530 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, you you only got a few years before 531 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: people start calling you a bust, you know, and so 532 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: you gotta be on it. You have to really be 533 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: on it. And and so when guys are on it, 534 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, ah, you know, it's good to see him. 535 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Read those benefits from it. Um, the versatility aspect of 536 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: the game. How much did you like that for your 537 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: team that Hey, yeah, I can play slot, but I 538 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: can play outside. I can do anything you want. And 539 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: how much of value is there for guys like they 540 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: fourmentioned Elijah More and Garrett Wilson. We saw him Ohio 541 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: State move around the formation. How much how helpful is 542 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: that for receivers? Yeah, I love that, just putting guys 543 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: in different spots to be able to make plays. Um, 544 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: it speaks to coaching really, guys that coaches that can 545 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: see that guys are not just this right just because 546 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: he's you know, five ten, you know he's a slot guy. 547 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: You know, if the guy can go out and make 548 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: plays on the outside, he deserves to be on the 549 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: outside as well. And so when coaches see that and 550 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: they're moving guys around like that, I mean, that's that's 551 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: a fun thing to watch, you know. And and when 552 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: you've got guys that can make plays, you know, you 553 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: can move into Elijah Moore around like that. Man, that's 554 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: I know, that's that's got to be exciting, you know, 555 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: because you you you the team that is playing you 556 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: that week. They can't really you know, watch tape and 557 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: and say this guy is gonna be at X or Z, 558 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, or in the slot. You know, he's he's 559 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: gonna be moving around, you know, And so, uh, that's 560 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: that's gotta be fun for a receiver. I want to 561 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: ask you about Her Knocks because you were part of that. 562 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: What was experience like? Because you're actually here tonight, You're 563 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna be at the premiere of our production Crews series 564 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: Flight New Heights, which cool. Access is tremendous, But what 565 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: was it like for you to be part of Her 566 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: Knocks and having cameras everywhere? I can't wait to see that. 567 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: By the way, I saw a clip of that. I 568 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: saw a little trailer. I can't wait to see that. Um, 569 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: but Hard Knocks, Uh, it was, it was. It was 570 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: a great experience, really great experience. Um. You know, it's 571 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: it's weird initially, you know, with all of the cameras around, 572 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: but you know, after a week or so, you don't 573 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: even realize they're there, you know. And uh, but it 574 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: was really fun to just go back and watch and 575 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: um and see you know, really kind of how coaches 576 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: think about you, you know, and um, but also how 577 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: you interact with your teammates and how how you as 578 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: a group interact, and so that was that was a 579 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: fun fun thing to watch. I watched it every every week. Yeah, yeah, 580 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: I did with a training camp at Courtland. Listen, and 581 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: have enjoyed this so much. UM, real quickly, let's go 582 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: back to the fans, because you're gonna be able to 583 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: mingle with some season ticket holders, some people who were 584 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: at the seats and at Mattlife or the old medal lands. UM. 585 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: Can you talk about your connection with the people who 586 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: rooted you on early on in your career and again 587 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: you went to two thousand and fifteen, and that speaks 588 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: to your commitment to the game and everything you brought 589 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: to the table playing with three different teams. I remember 590 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: it all, you know. I remember getting drafted, and I 591 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: remember the fans excitement about that, you know, UM, me 592 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: being able to learn from Wayne, you know, just just 593 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: hearing hearing all of those things. UM. I saw the 594 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: excitement about me being extended, you know, as a young 595 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: player that developed in this program. Um, you know, and 596 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: and I still hear the excitement, you know. Um, you know, 597 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: from time to time, and I meet a lot of 598 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Jezz fans no no matter where I go, you know, 599 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: And I just love this fan base. It's a hungry 600 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: fan base, um, and you know you gotta feed them, 601 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: feed them, you know. But but everywhere I go, I 602 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: meet Jezz fans. Um. Living down in Charlotte, Down in Concorde, 603 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: there was a cupcake bakery that that I used to 604 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: visit uh frequently and uh dough New York style bakery. 605 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: They were Jets fans, and so I used to go 606 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: in there and just top it up with them. We 607 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: talked about Jets, We talked about the Jets, you know, 608 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: and so um, just Jets fans is it's a big 609 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: part of of of of of what we do, you know, 610 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: it's a big part of what we do. And and 611 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited to meet me, meet me the group, meet 612 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: the group tonight. Well I've really enjoyed this, and listen, 613 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: don't be a stranger. This is home for you. You 614 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: will always be part of the Jets family. I appreciate that. 615 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: I've always felt that way. I always felt that way