WEBVTT - HOUR 2- Mike Florio Aug 27, 2020 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.280 Sports Radio. Milwaukee Bucks boycott and that, of course in 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:12.720 the protest of the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin, 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.480 and we don't know if we're going to have an 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:17.880 NBA season. Let me put that up front right now, 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.120 and if you've been listening to the show the first hour, 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.400 I'm going to repeat myself just so I can give 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.600 people the information that I had from last night from 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.680 a prominent agent who represents some players in the bubble, 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.480 and that is that there is a real possibility. In fact, 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.040 he thought last night that they were going to shut 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.239 down the season because without the Lakers and Clippers, you 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.400 can't have a season in the bubble, you can't have 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.440 a postseason. And the Lakers and Clippers voted or agreed, 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.360 I should say, agreed to not continue to play. So 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.160 they were willing to walk out of the bubble as 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.720 a show of protest, and the games, according to the players, 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.400 they wanted to be labeled they're boycotting. They weren't postponed, 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.760 but they are postponed because they have to make these 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.119 games up. They're supposed to be basketball today. And from 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.600 what I'm told there won't be basketball today because I 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.039 think what is being asked of all of the teams 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:16.399 in the bubble. Everybody is going to boycott a game. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.360 All of the teams are going to including the Celtics 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.319 and the Raptors. They start Round two. But you got 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.319 basketball coming up this afternoon, supposed to be at four o'clock. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.119 So six hours from now we're supposed to have basketball, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.080 but I don't think so you'd be having a shoot around. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.840 I wanted to bring back some of the sound that 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.440 we play. Doc Rivers, the Clippers head coach on Wednesday, 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:43.319 was so powerful and he was speaking as a person. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.200 He's speaking as a father. Then of course you know 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.600 that he's speaking as a head coach of the LA Clippers. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.000 But this is what Doctor had to say about where 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.280 we are right now, as is society. All you do 0:01:55.360 --> 0:02:05.840 is keep hearing about fear. It's it's amazing why we 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.280 keep loving this country and this country doesn't love his back. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:16.120 It's just it's really so sad, like I should just 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:23.840 be a coach, and it's so often reminded of my color. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.600 You know, it's just really sad. We got to do better. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.400 So that's Doc Rivers. That's prior to a game on Wednesday. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.120 And I think getting the players in the mindset of 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.120 being able to play a basketball game is going to 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.880 take some time. And I wonder if we have basketball 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.400 maybe this weekend. And I know basketball shouldn't be the 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.720 end game here, the goal because I can't tell these 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.919 players in the bubble what to think or feel or 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.200 what they should do or not do. But it's a business, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.959 and they were informed last night by the head of 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.119 their union, Michelle Roberts, this is a business. Their financial 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.600 ramifications and the owners have options here, but this is 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.440 a player driven league and Adam Silver has got a 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.680 lot on his plate today. But I would be really 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.799 surprised if we had basketball this afternoon or tonight eight 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.519 seven seven three d P show email address DP Atdwanpatrick 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.200 dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. I don't have 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.480 a poll question today because I just didn't think, given 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.960 the sensitivity going on, is there something that we could 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:40.080 offer you. And look, when sports, when something like this collides, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.920 then we cover it. And two days ago we talked 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.720 about what happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I was trying 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.800 to figure out I didn't want to be numb to it. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:53.600 I didn't want to avoid it, but I didn't want 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.200 to go out and get it and try to put 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.800 it into our show. And I said, if this impacts 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.920 what happens in the world and what players do, don't do, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.440 teams do, leagues do, don't do, then we'll cover it. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.839 And that's exactly what happened yesterday. So that's why we're 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.440 covering it today. I didn't want to go out and 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.719 get it and bring it in. I wanted to have 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.479 it be part of what is going on in sports 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:25.440 right now. And when games started getting canceled, then this 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.480 is a story. This is these story. These are playoff games. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.840 This isn't a November game. This is now. This is 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.479 the playoffs, and that's why we're covering it today. But 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:40.520 no poll question. And this didn't just affect the basketball players. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.880 You had football players. Practices are canceled today and some 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.840 of these cities, with some of these teams baseball games, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.919 some players sat out. I thought it was interesting that 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.720 Clayton Kershaw, the Dodgers pitcher, had this to say about 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.120 Mookie Betts and supporting black players. You know what, some 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.799 of our black teammates, some of the black players around 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.360 the league. Some of the things that they've been through 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.240 I'll never understand, and it's just trying to figure out 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.719 how to support them the best way possible. And I 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.360 don't have the right answer, but for tonight, I feel 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.479 like the right answer for us, for myself as a 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.960 white man, was to sit out with them, and I 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.320 think that's ultimately what we're going to have to do, 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.800 is just continue to listen to them and then try 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.560 to figure out the best way to love people well 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:26.280 with It's Clayton Kershaw last night, and you had some leagues, 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:31.640 some teams, some played, some didn't. I heard from somebody 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.080 last night, a source who said that it puts some 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.640 people in a real difficult position. There's a disconnect with 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.440 the world as sports because you can't look at this 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.400 and say, well, that's just NBA players or African American 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:51.520 players playing in the NBA. We shouldn't separate that these 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:56.080 are people and these athletes in other sports should be 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.600 looking at them and say, this isn't a black thing, 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.080 this is an US, this is our society. And I 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.440 think that's where some of these teams, some of these 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.720 players were put in a real delicate position of do 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.760 I sit down, Is anybody else sitting down with me? 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:17.039 What if I disagree and I want to play? Because 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:21.000 it wasn't universal that everybody didn't want to play last night. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.920 Just letting you know that. So we'll talk to Chris 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.000 Mannoxhill join us from the bubble. Coming up. We're also 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.480 following this story with the Washington football team. The Washington 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:37.120 football team, they're not practicing today, but they're confronting new 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.719 claims of harassment and a video, a lewd video made 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:45.479 for Daniel Snyder. So this is Washington Post. The second 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.880 set of sexual harassment allegations against the Washington football team 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.360 was reported Wednesday by the Post. Twenty five more women 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.280 came forward with claims, this time, bringing the total number 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:01.440 of accusers to forty two. Daniel Snyder directly implicated in 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:07.159 two instances. He has direct ties to behavior that supposedly 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:11.960 was going on throughout his team the last two decades. Now. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.000 Apparently there was a video that was made. According to 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.960 The Washington Post, Daniel Snyder asked the video team in 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.280 two thousand and eight to compile outtakes of cheerleaders private 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:30.280 parts for the shoot for the team swimsuit calendar. Two 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.520 of these members of the video team have resigned. A 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:39.360 second staffer, a former staffer, a broadcast producer who asked 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.880 to remain anonymous, told the Post that a similar request 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.480 was done in twenty ten when the calendar was shot 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.559 in the Dominican Republic. The footage was to be burned 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:56.080 into a DVD titled for Executive Meeting. Team canceled practice. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.400 On Thursday, Mike Floria will join us on this topic. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:06.560 And at what point commissioner has no problem singling out players, 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.960 He has no problem punishing players. He has no problem 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:15.000 putting them on the Commissioner's example list. But if you're 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:19.600 a commissioner and you're given credit for being a great businessman, 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.080 why would you have Daniel How is he good for business? 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.200 Because it's a great franchise, great fan base. Put it 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.160 up on the open markets, see what it goes for. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.800 But it's time to kick Daniel Snyder to the curb 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.680 like it just keeps building. This has nothing to do 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:43.400 with the nickname. I mean, that's over. Eventually he'll get 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:47.480 around to changing it. But as I said, given Daniel 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.920 Snyder being a good businessman, he'll understand how to make 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.760 even more money with changing the nickname all new merchandise. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:59.400 But at some point the commissioner's gotta go, You gotta go. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.120 And I don't know what the tipping point is. I 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:07.200 don't know what else you need. But if this was 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.960 a player, they don't get this many chances. Yeah, Poe 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.120 and doesn't feel like Daniel Snyders spent the past month 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.840 trying to keep this story at bay. He hires an 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.240 African American president for his team. He hires a female 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.360 to be the run the broadcasting division after the guy 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.920 who ran it before got in a big trouble and 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.040 had to air quote retire if he has, like Daniel Snyder, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.240 has tried to do every move he can to delay 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.600 having to give it up this team for another year. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.200 And I'm happy that these people got put in these places. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.880 I just don't know why they got put in these places. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.480 But I have a pretty good idea because we heard 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.640 from Washington. Hey do you want to talk to our 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.559 new president? He's an African American. I want to talk 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:53.680 to your owner. I talked to Ron Rivera. It took 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.960 me a day to get Ron Rivera, who I hope 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.680 is feeling better. And I felt bad for Ron Rivera. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.679 He'd been there six months, know everybody's name in the building, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:06.280 and he's out there doing interviews talking about, you know, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.600 Washington's football team. Here. I don't want your new president 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.040 or a head of your broadcasting. I want your owner. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.240 That's your what I want, because the other stuff it 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.559 feels like, hey, nothing to see here. Look at us. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:26.719 We're so sensitive. We're racially sensitive, gender sensitive. We're the 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.120 Washington football team. Yeah, McLevin. Do you think other owners 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.960 are worried about precedent? You know, remember they fired Jerry 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.720 Richardson in Carolina? Well? I know, Oh, I believe me. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.160 I heard when this story first came out with the 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.480 Washington Post, and I talked to somebody, a source who 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.040 said there are a couple owners who are really nervous 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:51.960 with what's going on with Daniel Snyder. I said, okay, yeah, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:56.079 there is. I think there's people who were nervous about 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.160 precedent setting that all of a sudden, I'm gonna go 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.000 get you for personal conduct. Am I going to be 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.880 looking at other owners here? Oh? Yes, I think that 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:10.480 is a viable possibility in this situation. So Flora will 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.640 join us coming up. It was a crazy day yesterday 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.199 and it was a little bit. I think it was 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.840 right at four o'clock, and I text the Danas and 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.599 I go, hey, I'm hearing something with the Bucks and 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.280 the Magic. I wasn't able to watch, so I was 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.120 in my car and I got in a phone call 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:30.120 and all it was was a heads up that said, hey, Bucks, Magic, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.920 it's going to get interesting here. And so I text 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.840 the Danas because I thought maybe you guys were able 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.760 to watch the beginning of that. And then all of 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.960 a sudden, they turn on NBA TV and they go 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.439 Bucks just left the floor. The Magic as still out 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.800 there shooting, and then I thought, okay, is there Maybe 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.240 it's a technical delay, maybe there's something that happened with 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.480 this scoreboard, Like I had no idea, and all of 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.040 a sudden, I get home and I watch NBA TV. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.360 Jim Jackson did a wonderful job. Chris Webber was really 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.200 good yesterday day as well. But this is happening right 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.199 in front of you, and you're you're prepared for a game, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.800 and now you got all this fill time, and I 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.240 thought that they did a wonderful job. Here's a portion 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.560 of what Chris Webber had to say. Be a former 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.160 NBA player, TNT NBA analyst. We know vote. We keep 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.120 here and vote. Everybody vote. But I'm here to speak 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:27.800 for those that are always marginalized, those that live in 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.600 these neighborhoods where we preach and tell him to vote 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:38.000 and walk away. Charles Barkley came to my high school. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.200 Just seeing him in the locker room, seeing his hands 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.560 and his body. That inspired me. You can't see something, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.520 you can't be something until you see it. And when 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.840 I tell you the little kids that have called me upset. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.080 I have a god son that has autism and I 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:05.040 just had to explain to him why we aren't playing. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.240 I have young nephews I've had to talk to about 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.600 death before they've even seen it in a movie. If 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:20.160 not now win, if not doing a pandemic and countless 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.880 lives being lost, if not now win, getting hear in 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:30.600 his voice, it's powerful stuff. That's Chris Webber Yesterday. Yesterday's 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.160 NBA games the first postseason games postponed in the league 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.200 for any reason since the Lakers and Clippers had to 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.520 postpone games in the nineteen ninety two playoffs due to 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.640 the rioting in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdict. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:48.240 Your phone calls are welcome. I pride myself in this audience, 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.320 and if you have something that you think is smart 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.679 or that we need to hear or you'd like to convey, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.959 then we have phone lines that are open. Just be respectful. 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.840 That's all I'm asking, same thing I ask every single 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.200 day when you call in. I give you the opportunity, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.400 and I hope you view it as it's an opportunity 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.520 to be able to say what you want to say. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.200 We don't have a pole question today. If you want 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.040 an email, you want to tweet, you can also do 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:19.520 that as well. But we don't know what's going to 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.320 happen today. I don't know what's going to happen in 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.400 forty five minutes from now or an hour from now, 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.600 by the time we're done with the show. But my 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.480 guess is I don't think we're playing basketball today and tonight. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.240 I don't know when we play basketball again. But I 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.840 do know from a source last night there was a 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.600 really strong sense the season was going to be shut 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:48.000 down last night, a really strong sense. You know, there's anger, frustration, confusion, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.720 you're in the bubble. While that does help in getting 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.800 together with your teammates to discuss these things. I do think, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.160 as Paul George pointed out, you know, you get depressed, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.640 you're in a bad place there, you're in a bubble. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.880 You play basketball, you go back to your room. That's 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.160 all you do. And I think the tensions are starting 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.520 to boil over. And you go back to what was 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.880 said by Kyrie Irving a couple of weeks ago, we 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.200 shouldn't be going into the bubble and playing basketball. And 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:20.880 people piled on Kyrie at the time. Are they watering 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.680 down the message? Is it still being heard? If you 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.000 don't play, what's it mean? If you do play, what's 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.320 it mean? These are real heavy questions that have to 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:35.240 be answered by the players, by the owners. We'll take 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.000 a break, we'll come back. We'll talk to Mike Florio. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.160 Your phone calls are welcome. Eight seven seven, three d 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.440 p show. It's about seventeen after the hour. This is 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.960 The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.640 Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.040 weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.080 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.720 The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.880 or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:04.080 by searching f s R. We'll step away from the 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.200 Orlando bubble here for a little bit and once again 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.800 we'll talk to Chris Mannox coming up next hour and 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.680 just find out exactly what's at stake today and tonight, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.760 because I think the season could be not in jeopardy, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.040 but it's certainly in the discussion of they may shut 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.720 this down. From what I was told last night, it 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:28.400 was a serious conversation and the discussion and I even 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.040 when I said, well, what was the discussion like, and 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.880 my source said there went a lot of discussion. There 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.000 was a lot of anger in that room. And then 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.640 the Clippers and Lakers reportedly were leading the charge to 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.520 shut down the season. So we'll have Chris Mannox joining 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.640 us coming up in a little bit. Mike Floya has 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.960 been all over this Washington story. When will the lawsuits 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.920 be filed in the Washington football investigation? The NFL won't 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:57.480 hire an independent investigator review the Washington allegations. Things appear 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.280 to be getting worse. Mike Florio on loan from Pro 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.800 Football Talk Live on Peacock. Mike, good morning, thanks for 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.000 joining us. How would you sum this up of where 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:10.920 we are with Washington and Daniel Snyder. Well, it's extremely troubling, Dan, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.880 And the commissioner's statement that was issued last night had 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.600 an initial paragraph that was extremely appropriate and reflected the 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.640 concern that the League should have over what is now 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.040 forty former female employees and counting who have alleged sexual 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:29.720 harassment against the franchise via reporting by the Washington Post. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.480 But the second paragraph of the commissioner's statement made it 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.639 clear Dan that the League is going to continue to 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:40.040 defer to the investigation that was arranged, bought, and paid 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.840 for by Daniel Snyder. And it's one thing for that 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:49.040 investigation to be conducted before Snyder is directly accused of wrongdoing. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.400 But now the guy who's signing the paychecks to the lawyer, right, 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.080 the lawyer has a duty to the client. Snyder is 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.679 the client. He's in the crosshairs. I'm a astounded that 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.520 the NFL is not taking this thing over. I mean, 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.320 look at it this way. You've got forty former employees 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.440 who are going to be contacted by the lawyer who 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.440 was working for the team. Are they going to talk 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.399 to her? I sure wouldn't. But if it's a lawyer 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.880 who is hired by the NFL and explains, I'm trying 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.680 to get to the bottom of this on behalf of 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.840 the NFL, not on behalf of Washington, then I'm more 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.359 likely to talk. So that's just a practical impediment to 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.600 what makes no sense. There's just one of the practical 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.480 impediments to what makes no sense to have the league 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.439 not do this investigation on its own. A league that 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.840 is predicated on being great businessmen. How can this possibly 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.720 help business by having Daniel Snyder? Why are they still 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.119 protecting him? Unless these other owners would be worried about 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.359 precedent that hey, you're going to start looking at his 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.439 personal life or how he handles things or people. You know, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.960 you're going to shine the spotlight on me as well. Well, 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.520 remember when Jerry Richardson had to sell the Panthers Dan, 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:58.560 the league hired an independent council to investigate. Now, with Richardson, 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.960 there was already a sense that the ship was sailing 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.080 and he was going to be selling the team. There 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:07.040 were multiple settlement agreements with nondisclosure clauses where there were 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.000 individuals who had accused Richardson of wrongdoing and they had 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.600 settled those claims which even though every one of those 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.280 settlement agreement says the defendant admits no wrongdoing, the fact 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.560 that you're writing the check at some level creates the 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.160 impression you did something you shouldn't have done. So Richardson's 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.800 already out, but I do think there's still this lingering 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:30.800 concern among owners that if and when that spotlight ever 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:35.040 gets turned toward us, and all it takes is a 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:39.719 motivated enemy who starts stirring up trouble. And every major 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.800 billion dollar organization has had disgruntled employees at some time 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.959 or another, it very well could be that there's a 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.520 level of concern here. There's a layer of buffer that 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.160 the owners are looking for to insulate them against ever 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.320 being on the wrong side of what Daniel Snyder would 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:57.800 be on the wrong side of if there was a 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.000 truly independent investigation. So what has to happen for Daniel 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:05.920 Snyder to relinquish control of this team. Well, the investigation 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:11.800 needs to find some evidence that is persuasive that would 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.959 cause the NFL to say, sorry, but this isn't acceptable. 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.600 You've got to go now. Look, I see two separate 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.560 issues here. I see specific allegations against Snyder that may 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.439 or may not be true, and he's denied them in 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.160 a statement that he issued yesterday. And then I see 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.879 the broader issue with the culture of the organization, an 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.800 organization he's presided over for twenty one years. At what 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:38.280 point is the mountain of misconducts so great that you say, 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.159 wait a minute. This is your team. You're ultimately in charge. 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.800 You set the tone here, You determine whether or not 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.320 there's going to be a sufficiently robust human resources department 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:53.160 to process reports, to encourage reporting. This is your team, 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.520 this is your shop, and it's been dysfunctional as it 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.800 relates to how women are treated for two decades. Sorry, 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.159 you can't continue. I mean, that's another way this can go. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.440 But again, it's not likely to happen if the person 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.520 doing the investigation is processing all the facts through that 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:14.480 lens of And it's justifiable, it's understandable. I'm being paid 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.119 by Daniel Snyder to do this. My duty to Daniel 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.840 Snyder's to not throw him under the bus. Yeah, your 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.320 job is not to get him to lose control of 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.280 his team. I'm gassing. That's what I don't understand with 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.679 the NFL. If you're going to investigate, then investigate, but 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.960 you can't say this is an independent investigator when she's 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.760 hired by Daniel Snyder. You have NFL teams not practicing, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.600 some not practicing today, we're two weeks away from the 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.800 season opener. With what is going on, certainly with the NBA. 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.840 Is there a spill over with the NFL as we 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:53.320 get closer once the season starts. Dan, I'm gonna quote 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.800 Pete Carroll, the Seahawks coach, from yesterday when he was 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.560 asked about the possibility of players refusing to take the 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.040 field for games. He said, anything's possible. It's a season 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.119 of protest and anything is possible. And it feels like 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.679 we're always one news cycle away from the next video 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.840 that makes us say, what in the hell are we 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.200 looking at here? And how is progress not being made? 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:19.159 George Floyd's murder supposedly made us all wide awake, and 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.560 now here we are at the end of the summer, 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.320 close to Labor Day. Floyd happened Memorial Day, and we 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.720 have another incident. And I feel like every time one 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.160 of these incidents happen, it raises the stakes now that 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:34.240 players are going to react by basically saying, hey, look, 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:37.040 the time for talking is over. We've tried to talk. 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.399 I think that's what the NBA is saying. We've tried 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.199 to talk, We've tried to explain, we've tried to make 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.000 you aware of what we're concerned about, and you're not 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.920 listening to us. So we are literally taking our ball 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:50.040 and going home. We're talking to Mike Florio, co host 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.440 Pro Football Live on Peacock, the show that precedes ours. 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.320 I'm also wondering about this as we go into the 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.919 season and these false positives here, How is the NFL 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.960 What did they learn from these seventy plus false positives? 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:07.840 Because if this happened two weeks from today, it would 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.680 shut down the football See you for the weekend, I'm 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.240 going to guess or for two weeks. Yeah, and Dan, 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.520 what the NFL currently is doing through the Competition Committee 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:20.840 brainstorming every possible scenario that could emerge once we get 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:22.720 into the season. But you know how it goes. It's 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.440 the things you worry about that never happened. It's those 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:29.320 things you didn't actually plan for that get dropped onto 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:31.879