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Speaker 1: as we meet the two newest members of the Bengals

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Speaker 1: Scouting Department, Josh Hinch and Tyler Ramsey. Then it's the

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Speaker 1: you do. Now let's get to my first guest. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals recently lost one of their scouts, as Christian Sarkesian

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Speaker 1: But the Bengals weren't short staffed for long, as they

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Speaker 1: We get to know them on this edition of the Pod,

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Speaker 1: beginning alphabetically with Josh Hinch. Josh, let's start with your

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Speaker 1: path to the NFL. You were running back at Nazarene

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Speaker 1: University and then South Carolina. Was the goal then to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just my whole life.

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Speaker 3: I grew up playing, playing the sport, loving the sport,

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Speaker 1: How did you transition from coaching to a front office

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Speaker 3: So with coaching, that's how I had to start. Right

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Speaker 3: after my college career. That experience was great, but once

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Speaker 3: So when I was at South Carolina, when I went

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Speaker 1: Your resume is interesting. It includes stints in the XFL

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Speaker 1: It sounds like there must have been a lot of

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Speaker 3: You know, Dan, you know four out of the six

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Speaker 3: One thing that stuck out to me about these four

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Demetrius Knights specifically, as soon as you meet

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Speaker 1: What jumped out to you there?

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Speaker 3: For me, it was just the physicality, the unique size,

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Speaker 3: On my journey, in my path, one guy that sticks

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Speaker 1: What attracted you to the possibility of working with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: I would just say, warned, the opportunity, the continuity, uh

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Speaker 2: The way they respect who.

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Speaker 1: Did you have any pre existing friendships or relationships on

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Speaker 1: It's no secret that the Bengals have a smaller staff

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Speaker 4: It did, it did.

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Speaker 3: It's just the like I said, the opportunity and so

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Speaker 3: the team as a whole. That was really an intriguing

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Speaker 1: Joshua, Evaluating a player, what are some of the most

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Speaker 3: Every player is his own guy, you know, But I

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Speaker 3: Speed, and just just the fluidity and just just the

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Speaker 3: That's that's the beauty of the sport in this game.

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Speaker 3: There's so many different positions that you can evaluate in

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Speaker 1: How were your teams in the XFL and the AAF.

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Speaker 1: Everybody that does this is trying to win a ring.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the Bengals roster as you

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Speaker 1: You're in your mid thirties. What's your ultimate goal professionally?

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Speaker 1: We're excited to have you with the organization. I look

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Josh, thank you, Dan. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Up next Tyler Ramsey, who will look to add a

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Speaker 5: I dreamt. I had a lot of dreams.

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Speaker 5: You know, working in professional sports was a goal for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk a little bit about your athletic days.

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Speaker 6: It was a well oiled machine. Out of those the

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Speaker 6: But it really set the foundation, you know, for work

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was totally surreal.

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Speaker 1: How does winning one ring affect your desire to win another?

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Speaker 5: takes a lot.

441
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Speaker 6: So we we need to continue to kind of you know,

442
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 6: grow and and and push the limits. And personally, that's

443
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 6: going back to school felt like the right choice the time.

444
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Speaker 1: Tyler, who are your biggest football mentors?

445
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd probably go a little bit back to high

446
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 6: school as well as with the Seahawks. In high school,

447
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 6: my head coach, Butch Gonchrof, who was there for all

448
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 6: those championship runs, really you know, instilled kind of the

449
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 6: work ethic and blue collar, you know style. He was

450
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 6: a really demanding coach, but he was always your friend.

451
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 6: He he made you want to play for him and

452
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 6: just his kind of genuine style just being an authentic

453
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Speaker 6: butch my defensive coordinator. There was James Hasty, the former

454
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Speaker 6: dB for the Chiefs Jets, and ironically he was the

455
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 6: original bump and run, you know, prototype corner for Pete

456
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 6: Carroll when he was with the Jets. And then I

457
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 6: was fortunate enough to work with Pete in twenty ten,

458
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 6: my second year in the league, and and you know,

459
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 6: eleven years after that. But Pete, Pete is always going

460
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 6: to be a huge influence. He's He's got a rare

461
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 6: quality about him in terms of, you know, just the charisma,

462
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 6: that energy, the passion, the competitiveness.

463
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 5: He he makes football fun again. And you could talk

464
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Speaker 5: to any of the.

465
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Speaker 6: Players that have ever played for him of how much

466
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Speaker 6: you know, they refell in love with the game, uh

467
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Speaker 6: under under his leadership.

468
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Speaker 1: How does somebody learn how to become a scout? Are

469
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Speaker 1: you taught? Is it trial and error? How did you

470
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Speaker 1: develop the skills for this profession?

471
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it can be a little bit top

472
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 6: but there there's definitely some some instinct involved. A lot

473
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Speaker 6: of scouting is obviously gathering information, and you know, just

474
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 6: being detail oriented and and and and having you know,

475
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 6: the personality to walk into a you know, a Division

476
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Speaker 6: one coaches office and ask for information when he doesn't

477
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 6: have a reason to or or trust you or.

478
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Speaker 5: Know you at all.

479
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 6: So you've got to have a little savvy there. And

480
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 6: then the instincts when it comes to just evaluating the

481
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 6: way a guy moves, what what a team's going to

482
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Speaker 6: be asking him to do, and does he have the

483
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 6: physical capability in his body to do that. That's just

484
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 6: something that I've kind of always possessed. I've always you know,

485
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 6: looked around on any athletic field and I'm mad like

486
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 6: that guy moves different than everybody else, or you know,

487
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 6: watching the NBA growing up every Sunday on NBC with

488
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 6: just being like having an appreciation for God given talent

489
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 6: that I never had.

490
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Speaker 5: This is something that I've always possessed.

491
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Speaker 6: But you can definitely work on all the ins and

492
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Speaker 6: outs of details, but at the end of the day,

493
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 6: if you're working hard and watching film and writing the

494
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 6: wrong grades and putting the wrong projections on players, You're

495
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Speaker 6: not gonna be in the business that long.

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Speaker 1: What traits do you prioritize as a scout.

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Speaker 6: I think there's, you know, a minimum threshold of athleticism

498
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Speaker 6: and speed and all that stuff, and if you don't

499
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Speaker 6: meet those, you're just gonna really struggle no matter how

500
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 6: you know, smart and tough and competitive you are. But

501
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 6: once you get over that minimum threshold, depending on the position,

502
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 6: you know, it's really the competitiveness and the passion and

503
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 6: the toughness. You know, there's always gonna be hard days,

504
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 6: there's gonna be bad plays, there's.

505
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Speaker 5: Gonna be.

506
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 6: You know, things that don't go your way, and to

507
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 6: have the competitive confidence in yourself to continue to just

508
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 6: come back and next play mentality. I think that really

509
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 6: carries a lot of players in the league because it's

510
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 6: it's not smooth sale. They've always been the best player

511
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 6: they get to the league and everybody's the best player

512
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 6: from everywhere. So just having somewhat of an irrational confidence

513
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 6: that that you can succeed despite you know, everything that's

514
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 6: going on around you.

515
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 5: You like to see that.

516
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: We're chatting with Bengals scout Tyler Ramsey. What attract did

517
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: you to working for Cincinnati?

518
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously I had some connections in the front office

519
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 6: with with Steve and and Trey and guys that I

520
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 6: have developed relationships over the years, crossing you know a

521
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 6: lot of pass scouting out west back back in their

522
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 6: early days in the League of Mine as well, and.

523
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Speaker 5: We developed a good relationship.

524
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 6: So and and I've always had a ton of respect

525
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 6: for for you know, getting out on the road and

526
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 6: seeing Bengals coaches out there and doing workouts and really

527
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 6: doing the work and collaborating with the staff. And then

528
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 6: as well as the setup. You know, everybody talks about,

529
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 6: you know, a small front office, but I think it's great.

530
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 6: I think you have in your hands in pro and

531
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 6: college scouting and really being being part of the decision

532
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 6: making process and being a part of the team puts

533
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 6: a lot on your plate and it forces you to

534
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 6: you know, to grow, to learn, to to you know,

535
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 6: get outside your comfort zone a little bit. And then

536
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 6: obviously you know coach Taylor, I've heard nothing but awesome

537
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 6: things about and then having you know, Joe Burrow, Jamar

538
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 6: Chase t Higgins and an offense that's high flying is exciting.

539
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: With the smaller staff, every voice matters and every voice

540
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: is heard. Is that something that's appealing to you about

541
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Speaker 1: coming to Cincinnati.

542
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course you you I mean you do the work.

543
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 5: If you do the work, and you you know, put

544
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: spending the amount of hours that we do, you know,

545
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: away from our families, on the road, digging guys up

546
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 5: at small schools, doing all that stuff. Feeling like that

547
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 5: matters when you say something is really important.

548
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 6: I've gone years, I've been around a lot of good people,

549
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 6: but I've gone years where we haven't acquired a single player.

550
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: That I evaluated in my area.

551
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: Or after the draft, and you just kind of, you know,

552
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Speaker 6: like I just spent nine months doing and we didn't

553
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 6: ad a single guy, uh that I scouted, which you

554
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 6: know happens. So just being able to put the work

555
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 6: in have your voice heard, whether it's you know, they

556
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 6: truly believe and I want to go with your opinion

557
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 6: or not that that happens, but you know it gives you,

558
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 6: you know, ownership and agency over your own your own

559
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 6: job and really makes you hold yourself to a higher standard.

560
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: After your time in Seattle, you spent a few years

561
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: in Carolina and then last year working with the Senior

562
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Bowl staff. In those roles are their current Bengals that

563
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: you scouted extensively, that you are high on and kind

564
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: of looking forward to now being part of the same team.

565
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Demitrius Knight would be one of them.

566
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 6: The second round pick. I followed him pretty closely this

567
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 6: past year living in Charlotte. I went to a couple

568
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 6: of South Carolina games and learned quite a bit about

569
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 6: him and his whole story from Georgia Tech to you

570
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 6: Charlotte to South Carolina. Is a pretty cool one, really

571
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 6: mature kid. I think he's got a ton of upside too,

572
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 6: So I'm excited to see him really step in and compete.

573
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 6: You know, Schmart Stewarts is likewise like he was a

574
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 6: guy that you couldn't help. But notice on tape how big,

575
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 6: how athletic, how disruptive, how hard he plays like he

576
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 6: is a competitor. So I'm excited to see him actually

577
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 6: get on the field and all that. But those two

578
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 6: guys this year definitely jumped off the tape.

579
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Speaker 1: How is nil in the transfer portal impacted the life

580
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Speaker 1: of a scout.

581
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 6: It definitely adds another layer that you're gonna have to,

582
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 6: you know, follow up on relationships from a guy that

583
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 6: could potentially be at three schools like Demetrius was.

584
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Speaker 4: So you got to.

585
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 6: Really dig, You got to really find a way to

586
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 6: sift through a lot of different information. You know, a

587
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 6: school where a guy has some success for a couple

588
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 6: of years, then jumps in the portal and and ends

589
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 6: up somewhere else for for a higher dollar amount. Naturally

590
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: the school he left might be a little bit bitter,

591
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 6: So the information you're getting out of that school might

592
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 6: not be as you know, uh as as uh loving

593
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 6: loving a kid up as his current school that he's

594
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 6: playing at. So, you know, just having the maturity and

595
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 6: and you know, nuance to to sift your way through

596
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 6: all the information that that's coming your way definitely takes

597
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 6: some skill. But it also, you know, guys are getting

598
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 6: paid already, so you don't have to worry about what

599
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 6: how they're going to react to money in the NFL,

600
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 6: so it's somewhat makes it a little bit easier that

601
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 6: they show who they are sooner to us versus you know,

602
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 6: you draft a guy and you have no idea how

603
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 6: he's going to react to moving and money and all

604
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 6: that stuff and and fame, and then they've been exposed

605
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 6: to it for the most part, So it's somewhat you know,

606
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 6: makes it a little bit easier to see who the

607
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 6: real guys are. You know, the running back that that

608
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 6: gets a big an aisle check and he and he

609
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 6: shares it with all of his offensive lines. Stuff stuff

610
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 6: like that, where you can just see the true nature

611
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 6: of of guys. Then that stuff that translates to the

612
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 6: NFL pretty easily.

613
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Speaker 1: A life of a scout isn't necessarily an easy one.

614
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: You travel a lot, you work very long hours. As

615
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: you noted, you have three young kids. What is it

616
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: about the job that you love?

617
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: It's it's really the people.

618
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 6: It's it's Football is you know, obviously in my opinion,

619
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 6: the best game in the world, just because of the

620
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 6: ability to to bring so many people from so many

621
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 6: different walks of life together for for a common cause.

622
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: It's easy to to relate with, you know.

623
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Speaker 6: It's it's something that the game day still gets me

624
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: fired up.

625
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: The athlete of me never went away.

626
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 6: So, you know, being able to impact a team and

627
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 6: a roster and a culture for guys that I genuinely

628
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 6: believe in and and I feel like play the game

629
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 6: the right way and and and carry themselves the right way.

630
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 5: It's it's just fun trying to trying to build a

631
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: team like that.

632
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's it's it's just you know, always going

633
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 6: back to the little kid that fell in love with it,

634
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 6: like tap into that passion.

635
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 5: Even though it's a it's a tedious job.

636
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 6: You got to remember it's you're You're pretty lucky to

637
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 6: and blessed to be in this situation.

638
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: You've got a super Bowl ring. You know what a

639
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: championship team looks like. How close are the Bengals to

640
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: being a team that can contend for a Lombardi.

641
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 5: I think really close.

642
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 6: I'm actually watching our guys right now, so I'm trying

643
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 6: to get up caught up to speed before mini camp

644
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 6: next week because you obviously know the the main players,

645
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: but some of the guys that on the depth chart

646
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 6: that I'm not too familiar with just want to get

647
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 6: a field. But I think when you have you know,

648
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 6: number nine behind center and the offensive weapons that he has,

649
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 6: it gives you a chance in any game. So I

650
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: think if a couple of areas, you know, can improve,

651
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 6: like it's it's not too far away. It's it's really cool.

652
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 6: The NFL is really cool in the sense that every

653
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 6: every year is a different year. It's it's not what

654
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 6: happened last year is now what's going to happen next year?

655
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: It's like if you capture this you know, six month

656
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 6: run and you start gelling like the Bengals did back

657
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 6: in twenty one, it can be a special year. So

658
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: I don't think it's too far away at all, obviously

659
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 6: to continue to add.

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Speaker 5: And grow and get better on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Firstand well, we are happy to have you in the

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Speaker 1: Bengals family. I appreciate your time today and look forward

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Speaker 1: to meeting you in person. Thanks so much, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: All right, Dan, thank thank you.

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Speaker 1: Josh and Tyler aren't the only additions to the player

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Speaker 1: personnel department is The Bengals also hired Trey Labounty to

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Speaker 1: join Sam Francis in their football analytics department. Trey earned

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Speaker 1: a master's degree in sports analytics at Miami University. Before

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Speaker 1: getting to my next guest, here's a quick reminder that

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Speaker 1: move on to another edition Five Questions with a Bengals rookie.

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Speaker 1: Time for five Questions with Bengals rookie offensive lineman Jalen River.

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Speaker 1: Is question number one. You shared with us on draft

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Speaker 1: night that your mom, your dad, and your stepfather all

681
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Speaker 1: spent more than thirty years in the Navy, So naturally

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Speaker 1: we assume that you had a disciplined childhood. Tell me

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Speaker 1: something that you weren't allowed to do that your buddies were.

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Speaker 4: That's tough because it was so many things.

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Speaker 7: But one thing I will say is I couldn't go

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Speaker 7: out at all during the week, and no matter if

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Speaker 7: I finished my homework or anything like that during the week,

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Speaker 7: didn't matter what age I was in high school, middle school,

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Speaker 7: during the week, no, no school night, No you gotta

690
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Speaker 7: wake up, you gotta, you gotta. I went to practice,

691
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Speaker 7: came back, finished my homework, do whatever. And there was

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Speaker 7: a curfew I had sometimes because I'm not a morning

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Speaker 7: person all the time, sayisly when I was in high school.

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Speaker 7: So it was like, oh, you're gonna put you phone

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Speaker 7: downstairs after ten o'clock or something or nine thirty.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so there are probably times you didn't like that,

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Speaker 1: but it clearly is paid off. Will you do that

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Speaker 1: with your children someday?

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Speaker 7: It's yes, but if they got to show me that

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Speaker 7: the trustworthy did is discipline and they're disciplined enough to

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Speaker 7: put their phone down at certain time. But you know, teenagers,

702
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Speaker 7: you're probably not.

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Speaker 4: So got one. Probably yeah, so I'll probably do the same.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: Question number two for Jalen Rivers. We all know that

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Speaker 1: the perfect GPA is four point zero. From what I've read,

707
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Speaker 1: your GPA in high school was four point three. Did

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Speaker 1: you ever have a B?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 7: I did, yeah, but it was in the high b's

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00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 7: you know, anything anything a bee or less. I was

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Speaker 7: mad at myself, so I strived for all a's honor,

713
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Speaker 7: all a honor roll. But yeah, I did good bees.

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Speaker 1: Well my many obviously of the four to three gpa.

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Speaker 1: Did school come relative flee easily to you? Or was

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Speaker 1: that gpa the the product of a lot of grinding

717
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Speaker 1: and hard work?

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Speaker 7: A product of a lot of grind and hard work.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I credit to my parents, is me staying

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Speaker 7: on top of my school work. So it was tough

721
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Speaker 7: because some things I weren't good at, like math, word

722
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Speaker 7: problems and stuff like that. When I was young, I

723
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Speaker 7: overthought the question a lot, like it might be, this

724
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Speaker 7: might be, But you know, ever overcome that over years

725
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Speaker 7: and you start getting better at it, and it's like,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's kind of getting easy because I put

727
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Speaker 7: so much work into being a great student.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Question three for Jalen Rivers. You're a big

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Speaker 1: man six six by three hundred and twenty pounds. Where

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Speaker 1: does your size come from?

731
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Speaker 4: My family?

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Speaker 7: Both sides, my mom's side, well, both sides of my parents.

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Speaker 7: My granddad's were above six foot, like six two six three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, both sides, both sides my family.

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Speaker 1: Is your mom six feet.

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Speaker 4: Tall, she's six foot my dad six two sixty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was meant to be Question number four. In

738
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Speaker 1: addition to having a great high school football career, you

739
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Speaker 1: are a state champion in the shotput. That's one of

740
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Speaker 1: those events that obviously doesn't attract a bunch of fans.

741
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Speaker 1: But did you enjoy competing in track and field?

742
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Speaker 4: I loved it.

743
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Speaker 7: I enjoyed it every because I started my seventh grade

744
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Speaker 7: year when I started middle school up until obviously not

745
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Speaker 7: up to my senior because I end up leaving early

746
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Speaker 7: to coming up go to Miami.

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Speaker 4: But yep, I enjoyed it. Every single year. I look

748
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Speaker 4: forward to the spring to be honest, to a thorough

749
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Speaker 4: shot put all right.

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Speaker 1: Fifth and final question for rookie Jalen Rivers. Tell us

751
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Speaker 1: something about you. But not many people know.

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Speaker 7: That I'm a great cook. One of my biggest hobbies

753
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 7: right now that I've just gotten into, like the past

754
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 7: three years, it was cooking so I can cook some

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00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 7: chicken pumbers on with some rigatoni, pasta, jerk.

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Speaker 4: Chicken.

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00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 7: Stuff, salmon stuff, chicken, home mac and cheese, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking for an invite to your house. Are

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Speaker 1: you good at following a recipe or do you have

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Speaker 1: a natural ability to think, Okay, these spices will work

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Speaker 1: well with this dish, et cetera.

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Speaker 7: No, First I do follow recipe. And then also my

763
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Speaker 7: dad he's a he's a chef, he's a he caters,

764
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Speaker 7: so I can get some ideas from him.

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Speaker 4: He teaches me stuff.

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Speaker 7: So but when I fight figure out a recipe, I

767
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 7: start putting my own spin on it. When I started

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Speaker 7: learning some new things and tips.

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Speaker 1: Offensive lineman four to three GPA state champion in the

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Speaker 1: shot put in chef Jalen Rivers, We've learned a lot, sir.

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Speaker 4: Nice Meetia.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you here in Cincinnati and thank you,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Now let's go.

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Speaker 1: From five questions to five observations after watching the Bengals

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Speaker 1: practice and talking to players and coaches on Tuesday. Topic

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Speaker 1: number one is Cam Taylor Brett. After a disappointing third

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Speaker 1: NFL season that saw him get benched at times, Cam

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00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: is embracing a fresh start under new defensive coordinator Al Golden.

780
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: Taylor Brett intercepted Joe Burrow on Tuesday when he lined

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Speaker 1: up as a slot corner and picked off a pass

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Speaker 1: intended for Mike Gasicki on a quick out route. Here's

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks coach Chuck Burks, followed by Taylor Brett. What are

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Speaker 1: you emphasizing with him as you try to get him

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Speaker 1: back to you know the level of play he's capable.

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Speaker 8: Of, just discipline and consistency, and we always talked about

787
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Speaker 8: tnc doing the things that takes no takes no talent,

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Speaker 8: and you know that's my main focus with him to

789
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Speaker 8: spring taking care of those things you know stands alignment,

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Speaker 8: assignment and having your eyes in the right place and

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Speaker 8: when mistakes are made, no excuses, no explanations, goes to

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Speaker 8: an explode.

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Speaker 1: Anything stand out on that play that kind of fits

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Speaker 1: what you were talking about.

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Speaker 8: Well, what stands out is he was in his correct

796
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Speaker 8: leverage and you know that that's where it starts, and

797
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Speaker 8: he was in position. The ball showed up and once

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00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 8: cam gets himself in position, he has better ball skills

799
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Speaker 8: than you know, a lot of guys I've coached in

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Speaker 8: my career.

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Speaker 6: So now I'm not surprised he.

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Speaker 4: Made that play.

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Speaker 8: So he just has to be consistent in putting himself

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Speaker 8: in position to make that play.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything about that play that illustrates what you're

806
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Speaker 1: working on to try to have the type of year

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Speaker 1: that you know you're capable of having.

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Speaker 9: Honestly, just put me in different positions on the field

809
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Speaker 9: to guard different people. I believe on that one, I

810
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Speaker 9: was just on the tight end at the moment to

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Speaker 9: just held my leverage. Then, regardless of what he did

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Speaker 9: at the top of the road, is just you know,

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Speaker 9: use my guy given ability to go get the ball in.

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Speaker 1: So you're moving around a lot outside slot wherever matter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be all over with Mike Hilton gone. Is that what

816
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Speaker 1: the secondary is going to have to do by a

817
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Speaker 1: bunch of people moving around to try to make up

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Speaker 1: for his loss?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's a there's a win at the

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Speaker 9: end of the day, honestly still man, just in the

821
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Speaker 9: sense of I believe everybody can guard anybody within our

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Speaker 9: back end. It doesn't matter you know, body type or anything.

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Speaker 9: We can all be interchangeable.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they'll be here there.

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Speaker 1: You just never know at your confidence level at this

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Speaker 1: stage of the ots.

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Speaker 4: That feel great. Yeah, I'm lit right now, man.

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Speaker 9: I know everybody has come in in the right way man,

829
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Speaker 9: and not even thinking about you know, last year. You know,

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Speaker 9: it's a new mindset for me, for my teammates, and

831
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Speaker 9: it just at end and they will come.

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Speaker 4: To work every day.

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Speaker 1: By the way, on the very next snap after Cam's interception,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow floated a long pass for Jamar Chase, who

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Speaker 1: beat DJ Turner and caught it in stride for a

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Speaker 1: seventy yard touchdown. Topic number two is Dax Hill. I

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Speaker 1: watched Dax working out on a rehab field and it

838
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Speaker 1: was great to see him running and cutting under the

839
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Speaker 1: watchful eye of the Bengals outstanding rehab coordinator Nick Cosgray.

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Speaker 1: Dax is coming back from a torn acl that he

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Speaker 1: suffered in early October, and he's hoping to be fully

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Speaker 1: cleared in time for training camp. Once he's back, it

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Speaker 1: will be interesting to see where he lines up up.

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Speaker 1: Hill was the bengals best outside corner in the first

845
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Speaker 1: five weeks of the season last year, but with Mike

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Speaker 1: Hilton gone, there's an opening at slot corner, where Dak's

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00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: often lined up in college at Michigan. Once again, here's

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks coach Chuck Burks.

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Speaker 8: Well, with Dax, I'm gonna put him in position to

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Speaker 8: cover in blitz wherever that's at, so corner whatever. You know,

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Speaker 8: he's a guy that has an elite skill set to

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Speaker 8: cover and it has an elite skill set to blitz

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Speaker 8: and I plan to utilize that. And however that really manifests.

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Speaker 1: What is the mix of guys that will compete Tree

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Speaker 1: placed Mike Hilton in the slot all of them.

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Speaker 8: You know, today, we've had or this past week, we've

857
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Speaker 8: had Cam at Nickel, We've had Josh Newton at Nickel,

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Speaker 8: We've had j d at Nickel. You know, Dax have

859
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Speaker 8: placed some nickels, So to me, it's really more about matchups,

860
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Speaker 8: not necessarily positions. We have multiple guys who made up

861
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Speaker 8: and side, but it's about the matchup of that week

862
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Speaker 8: and how we plan to approach defending that team that week.

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Speaker 1: Jay D, by the way, is Jalen Davis, who has

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Speaker 1: been a valuable reserve in his five seasons in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Topic three is wide receiver three. The Bengals have the

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Speaker 1: best one to two punch at that position in the

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Speaker 1: league in Jamar Chase and T Higgins. And while there's

868
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Speaker 1: growing optimism that Jermaine Burton can be a more dependable

869
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: pro in his second season, we should not forget that

870
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Speaker 1: the Bengals already have a number three receiver on the

871
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Speaker 1: rise in Andre Yosi Vash. The third year wide out

872
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: out of Princeton had thirty six sketches for four hundred

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00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: and seventy nine yards and six touchdowns last year, then

874
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: spent another portion of his off season working with renowned

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Speaker 1: receivers coach Drew Lieberman. I discussed Yosi Vash with T.

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Speaker 1: Higgins at this time last year. I remember a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys were talking about Yosi Vash and how much

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Speaker 1: improvement he had made. See seen another step in Andre

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 10: Oh man, hell yeah, you know, Yoshi, I don't he

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Speaker 10: teaching me, thinks. And it's night and day from from

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Speaker 10: this from last year to this year. And y'all gonna see,

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Speaker 10: y'all gonna see this year, Yoshi's gonna really gonna come

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Speaker 10: on this ship.

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Speaker 1: He's teaching you things.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 10: I can always learn from the other receivers, you know

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Speaker 10: what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I learned from.

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Speaker 10: Chase, I learned from Charlie, I learned from Jamain. I

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Speaker 10: learned from everybody. And I just do anything to put,

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Speaker 10: you know, put in my bag.

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Speaker 1: So so if he's taking those kinds of strides knowing

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Speaker 1: that the Bengals have the best one two punch in

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Speaker 1: the league with you and Jamar, I mean, is this

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Speaker 1: three headed monster.

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Speaker 10: Definitely could be? You know, that's what we're looking forward

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Speaker 10: to doing. Obviously, y'all see him. He's got bigger, and

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Speaker 10: he got stronger.

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Speaker 5: He didn't got.

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Speaker 10: Faster, he's twitcher and he's just he know everything right now.

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Speaker 10: And man, it's just it's been great.

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Speaker 1: To see Andre has ten touchdown catches in his first

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Speaker 1: two seasons and for what it's worth. That's more than

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers or Puka Nakua, who are also taken in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three draft topic number four. You get

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Speaker 1: what you emphasize. Al Golden uses an acronym to sum

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Speaker 1: up his defensive philosophy. Its best B E, S, T.

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Speaker 1: The B is for ball disruption, E is for effort,

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Speaker 1: S is for situational masters, and T is for tackling.

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Speaker 1: That first letter B for ball disruption really stands out

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Speaker 1: at practice because the defense begins the day by going

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Speaker 1: through four stations where they work at punching, stripping, and

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Speaker 1: ripping the ball away. Here's Logan Wilson on how Golden

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Speaker 1: has everybody focusing on forcing turnovers.

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Speaker 11: Just always finding ways to affect the ball. I mean

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Speaker 11: even in our daily unit defensive meeting tests, like where

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Speaker 11: he'll he'll bring certain situations up based on how the

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Speaker 11: ball carrier is holding the ball, how we're going to

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Speaker 11: attack it, where our profile is, are we behind him,

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Speaker 11: are were in front of him, around the side of him,

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Speaker 11: like all those different things. So that becomes second nature.

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Speaker 11: We're not thinking about it in the game, and when

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Speaker 11: you're always harping on it and you're always working it

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Speaker 11: just like I said, it just becomes second nature and

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Speaker 11: it's just and then that translates the turnovers in the.

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Speaker 1: Games, those four little stations. There's something a little bit

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Speaker 1: different about each thing.

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Speaker 11: Right, Yes, Yeah, it's about how you're attacking the ball.

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Speaker 11: Are you ripping it or you punt? Are you Rodeo

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Speaker 11: upper cutting it, or we're near in the hand of

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Speaker 11: the quarterback trying to make plays on the wall. Not

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Speaker 11: necessarily just turnovers, but even batting a ball down sorry,

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Speaker 11: because it could be like a third down play and

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Speaker 11: you bat the ball on a complete pass and we're

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Speaker 11: off the field. So those are also good ways to

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Speaker 11: get quote unquote turnovers, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So is it the classic case of you get what

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Speaker 1: you emphasize?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you get out what you put in. And like

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Speaker 11: that's I mean, that's technically before practice. So like guys

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Speaker 11: are choosing to come out and get those reps and

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Speaker 11: we're not. He's not asking to get you fifteen reps

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Speaker 11: of each one, like you're just getting one rep of

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Speaker 11: each And so when you're just constantly adding layers to

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Speaker 11: your to your game, like I said, it becomes second

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Speaker 11: eh strong game days and even in practice when we

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Speaker 11: hit training camp, so that we're because when we're always

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Speaker 11: punching at the ball, it's gonna it's not only gonna

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Speaker 11: help us defensive, but it's gonna help our office too.

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Speaker 1: Al Golden's Notre Dame defense had thirty three takeaways last year.

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Speaker 1: That was two more than any other team in the country.

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Speaker 1: My fifth and final observation involves tight end Mike Gasicki.

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Speaker 1: There's always a period early in practice where the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: go through a series of drills where they work on

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Speaker 1: moving around in the pocket before making off platform throws,

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Speaker 1: and more often than not, the person on the receiving

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Speaker 1: end of those throws is Gasicki. It made me wonder

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Speaker 1: why he's the guy that gets to do that.

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Speaker 12: It's because I don't run down on kickoff, for one.

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Speaker 12: So they're they're they're doing special teams drills, and you know,

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Speaker 12: rather than just get over there and stretching or getting

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Speaker 12: ready for practice or things like that, I just follow

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Speaker 12: the quarterbacks and just get over there.

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Speaker 4: I like to get over there.

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Speaker 12: And you know, they're they're talking about some of the

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Speaker 12: player when we're running practice, some of the looks that

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Speaker 12: they're expecting just things like that and then just warming

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Speaker 12: up and just getting a couple of extra catches before practice.

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Speaker 12: So it's just something I've always done and something I

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Speaker 12: enjoy doing.

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Speaker 1: I know, you catch a ton of balls off you know,

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Speaker 1: your gut jugs at them and everything, but is it

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Speaker 1: different just to get in extra catches from a ball from.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, just because it's it's the jugs machine is

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Speaker 12: such a you know, specific point and you know where

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Speaker 12: it's going to be every time, and you know our

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Speaker 12: quarterbacks are extremely accurate. But it's just always different catching

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Speaker 12: it from from a.

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Speaker 5: Human than a drugs machine.

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Speaker 12: So so it's like, I like doing that before practice.

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Speaker 5: Feel like it.

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Speaker 12: You know, it gets me ready mentally and physically, and

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Speaker 12: then you go out there and make plays.

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Speaker 1: So it certainly worked last year when Mike had sixty

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Speaker 1: five catches and earned a three year contract extension. That's

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