1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to the podcast. Thanks for being here. 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: I answer your questions if you email them to me. 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Granger Excuse Me podcast at grangersmith dot com. Podcast at 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: grangersmith dot com. Email me anything could be about any 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: subject and we'll walk through it together. I've got the 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: first one pulled up right here, and I'll see who's 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: this from. Comes from Anonymous, going straight to the anonymous 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: from the very beginning, it says, I started watching your 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: podcast and I absolutely love them. I'm a Christian and 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: love the Lord, and married and have a few children. 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm a stay at home mom raising our children, and 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: my husband has a job to provide. He is a 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: really hard worker, and we just don't see much of him. 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: He's always so busy, with no weekend or regular days 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: off work. Sometimes he has one weekend off in two months. 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: It's just so hard to raise our children without having 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: him around very much. What would you suggest, she goes on, 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: We have argued about it too much already, and I'm 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: just so tired of it. I didn't get married to 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: live life alone. She says. I like the fact that 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I could be with the children and raise them instead 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: of bringing them to daycare or having other people raise 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: and influence them. While I have a job to help provide, 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: but I also think they need their dad around to 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: guide them in life and to teach them things. I 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: can't imagine our lives ten years ago going on like 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: it is right now, the children will be adults and 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: not have a father figure to look up to other 29 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: than knowing that he makes money. He is not a 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: church goer, and neither does he have a relationship with Christ. 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: I got saved after we got married, and although we 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: both grew up going to church, it was more about 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: practicing religion than gathering with believers to worship our Savior. 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: After we got married, we stopped being regular church goers 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: until I got saved and found a Christian based church. 36 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: She says, I have invited him to come with us, 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: and he's gone a few times here and there when 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the children had a Christmas show, but he says he 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: doesn't want to go otherwise, nor does he want to 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: talk about God. He says if something changes, he will 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: let me know. Then here's a question, how can I 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: support him or stand by him the right way? I 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: don't know how much impact I will have on our 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: children being the only one teaching them about God and 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: taking them to church and raising them basically alone. It's 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: just so hard. I don't know what to do. She says. 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Anonymous. It's a good way to 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: start the podcast. And first of all, I want to say, 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. It's unfortunate that I do see these 50 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: kind of questions quite a bit. You've listened to the podcast, 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: you probably know this is just something we deal with 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: these days, and so let's dive into it, focusing on 53 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: your main question. Keep in mind, your main question is 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: how could I support him right away or the right way? 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: You say, And I understand you're frustrated. I understand that 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: you are born again. You say you're you're your believer, 57 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: but there there's a couple issues here. It feels like 58 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: you're pretty angry at the situation and you're taking it 59 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: out on him. And I have to tell you that 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: although it's unfortunate that we see this a lot, it 61 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: is it is common, and it's always been common that 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: a man goes away. In fact, I've been I've been 63 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: an example of this myself for many years, going on 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: tour and often leaving on a Wednesday and coming back 65 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: on a Sunday afternoon and then kind of catching up 66 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: with stuff around the house on Monday and Tuesday, and 67 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: then heading out on another Wednesday. I did that a lot, 68 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: a lot of times, especially during the summertimes as a 69 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: touring musician. And then I'm not alone in that. I mean, 70 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: so many people have gone with careers that have taken 71 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: them away, so many men. And since you know from millennia, 72 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: I remember that movie Old Yeller. Do you remember that movie? 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: But such a good movie. You got to see it 74 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: if you haven't, about the yellow dog that the stray 75 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: dog that then becomes the best friend of the family. Well, 76 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: the very beginning of that movie, the dad is leaving. 77 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't remember where he was going. He 78 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: was going with the other men and they were going 79 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: out to do some trading. And he was gone for months. 80 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: And that's back before phones, and you're just gone, and 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I'll see you when the season changes, son, 82 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'll come riding back over the horizon. I'm 83 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: a horse. And those very common men would go away 84 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: to hunt or to trade, or to do work on 85 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: a cattle drive, or to do work on a railroad, 86 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: or to go off and do trade ships. Before that, 87 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, the big trading ships would go out and 88 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: they would leave their wives and their kids for months 89 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: and come back after the ship had sold everything in 90 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: the West Indies. They would come back to England. Very 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: very very common, and in fact, you even see this 92 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: in the Bible. You see it in the New Testament. 93 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: You see the disciples going out and occasionally you have 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: to ask, like with Peter for instance, you have to go, 95 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: where was your wife during this? And so there's nothing 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: I have to say, there's nothing inherently wrong with a 97 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: man going out and working. I'm also not encouraging that 98 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. In fact, I'm someone who kind 99 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: of rebounded and came back from that to make sure 100 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: that not just that I was spending more time with 101 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: my kids and my wife, but actually more so to 102 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: make sure that I was serving my church correctly and 103 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: responsibly and faithfully, and being with my kids at our 104 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: local church every single Sunday or as many as as 105 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: that I could around my work schedule. So it's interesting 106 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to think of this. First of all, is that the 107 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: man your husband is not absolutely wrong, He's not in 108 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: sin for doing this. I know there's a lot of 109 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: other issues we need to unpack, but I think we 110 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: could probably start there that you're not alone, and women 111 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: have done it for a long time and they've been okay. 112 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: So you know, the Bible talks about this, and maybe 113 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: we should start there first. Let me look it up. 114 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: First Peter three, I believe, is where we're going to go. Yeah, 115 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: so first Peter three. The whole chapter starts with this. 116 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: It says Peter's talking. It says, likewise, wives, be subject 117 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: to your own husbands, so that if some do not 118 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: obey the word, they may be one without a word 119 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: by the conduct of their wives when they see you're 120 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: respectful and pure conduct. And he goes on about the 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: clothing you wear, and then down to verse five, for 122 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: this is how the holy women who hoped in God 123 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: used to adorn themselves. By no verse past that. Look, 124 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: it continues on. So I would encourage you to go 125 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: to first Peter three and start at the beginning. Go 126 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: down and keep on reading down. It's that's pretty crazy 127 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: to think that Peter saying, be subject to your husband, 128 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: serve him, love him, and he maybe won over by 129 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: your conduct, your respectful, pure conduct. According to the ESV translation, 130 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: and so your question, your last question was how could 131 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I support him or stand by him the right way? 132 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: It starts with let's obey first Peter three and just 133 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: serve him and love him, be there for him so 134 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: much so that he goes she is amazing, because I 135 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: got to tell you right now, and this is always 136 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: all These podcasts are always tough love. And I want 137 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: to respect you, and I want to love you as sister, 138 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: and I want to respect your email and your situation. 139 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: So don't don't ever think that I'm coming across at 140 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: this table in front of this microphone and it's kind 141 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: of judgmental or telling you what you need to be doing. Instead, 142 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I honestly wouldn't say it. I wouldn't even have a podcast. 143 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't care that much to have a podcast to 144 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: just to be right about something. I only say it 145 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: so that maybe you could hear this from the Bible 146 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: and go oh okay, and you could have peace or 147 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: rest from that. So right now, what you're doing is 148 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: you're making Christianity look horrible. Your husband is thinking, man, 149 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: my wife is nagging me about this church thing, and 150 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: she's lost her mind. She's crazy. Why would I want 151 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: any part of whatever it is that she's learning and 152 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: whatever she's doing at that church, and it's coming home 153 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: angry at me. Please, she could have it. I don't 154 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: want any of it. That's kind of what's happening right now. 155 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's see there's another one here, First Corinthians seven, I believe. Yeah, 156 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: let me look this up another verse. Now this is 157 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Paul now instead of Peter. Paul says First Corinthians seven thirteen. 158 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: If anyone has a husband who is an unbeliever, that's you, 159 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: and he consents to live with her, she should not 160 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: divorce him, it says, for the unbelieving husband is made 161 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is 162 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: made holy because of her husband, so it works both ways. 163 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: Otherwise this is interesting. Otherwise your children would be unclean 164 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: as it is, but they are holy. But if the 165 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: unbelieving partner separates, let it be so in some In 166 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: such cases, the brother or sister is not enslaved. God 167 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, 168 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: whether you will save your husband? So you the Lord 169 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: may save your husband through you, if you stay with 170 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: them and love him and serve him instead of nagging 171 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: him and criticizing him and saying, you know what, I 172 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I could do this anymore. This is 173 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: not my dream life. What did you say I? This 174 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: is not what I want to do. This is not 175 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: what I wanted to be. This is it's so far 176 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: and once again tough love here, it's just all about you. 177 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: It's just really all about you, and it's hard not 178 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to blame you. But instead I'm saying, let your love 179 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: for Christ. If you do love Christ like you say, 180 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: if you love him, then love your husband as you 181 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: were commanded to do it. Don't Jesus doesn't say love 182 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: your husband, or serve your husband if he is serving 183 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: you equally back, or if he's loving you back. The 184 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: obedient thing to do in faith is to love your 185 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: husband and serve him. And as difficult as that may be, 186 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: that is your answer. That's my answer, because that's what 187 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: the Bible says, and so we do that. And if 188 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: he decides to leave you, if he decide, if he 189 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: says I can't do this anymore, I need a divorce, 190 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: then then you've moved to the next level. But now 191 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: this is not on you, right this is that would 192 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: put it on him. So right now, you love him 193 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: with the intention of saving him, with the intention of 194 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: making him holy. That's what That's what the Bible says. 195 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a great question, and I hope, I 196 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: hope that you are also working through this with your 197 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: local church and with the sisters in your church. I 198 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: hope that the elders of this church. I hope it's 199 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: an elder led church, and I hope that the elders 200 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: of this church know about this and are praying with 201 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: you about this about your husband, so that you're not 202 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: alone in all of this, and you don't ever have 203 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: to feel like you're alone in it. Okay, next question 204 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: comes from Cam says, Hey, mister Smith, and I am 205 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: putting on my glasses because I could see a love matter. Hey, 206 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: mister Smith, I have a co worker who is a 207 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: very vocal atheist. I do not work in the same 208 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: office complex, but when he's in my office, he's wanting 209 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: to debate people on religion and politics. He often refers 210 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: to Christianity as a fairy tale and as the christ myth. 211 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: He's heard the Gospel over and over and even stated 212 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: that if even if God was real, I would acknowledge 213 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: that but not live my life any different or obey 214 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: his teachings as a follower of Christ, is it wrong 215 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: of me to take the stance of not entertaining his 216 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: remarks slash telling him what I believe when his heart 217 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: is completely turned off to the Lord and wants to 218 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: live his life separate from God. I'm curious to hear 219 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this as it continues to happen. God 220 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: bless Cam. All right, Cam, thanks for the question. Yeah, 221 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: everyone has everyone's at the atheist at the office, right 222 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: if you if you have an office, you've probably got 223 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: an atheist there at the office or in your friend group. 224 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: And so it's always a good it's always a good 225 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: question to think through. And it's really at first we 226 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: should start by saying it's not totally different than the 227 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: last email we just had. And insomuch as the first 228 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: response to this guy is to love him, and that's 229 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: what we're called to do his Christians, is just to 230 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: love him and to be kind and serve him, to 231 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: be patient with him. Uh, it's it's it's also for 232 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: us to to be able to declare boldly the whole 233 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: counsel of God to him. Now, that doesn't mean telling 234 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: the gospel to somebody first let's start with that, right 235 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: you said, uh, reiter, did you say that? You said 236 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: you he's heard the gospel over and over. Let's make 237 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: sure that he's hearing the full gospel. And let's make 238 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: sure that he's not just hearing you know, Jesus loves you. 239 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, Jesus loves you right, you know, Jesus loves you. Right. 240 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: That's not telling the gospel over and over. The gospel 241 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: would need to he would need to understand what Paul 242 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: calls the whole counsel of God. God created, and it 243 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: was good man rebelled out of sin. Adam was the 244 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: first man who fell, and we have inherited that original 245 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: sin in us. All of us have sinned and fallen short, 246 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: separated ourselves from God. Because we've separated ourselves, and because 247 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: we've rejected him and his law and his mercy, we 248 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: are deserving of punishment of that. And the Bible says 249 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: that the wages of sin is death, so we literally 250 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: deserve death from breaking the law. This is the same 251 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: in a normal human law, and it's the same in 252 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: God's law. A criminal must be punished to the degree 253 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: that he that he committed the crime. And when you 254 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: commit a crime against God himself. It requires a life. 255 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: So we're on death row. And while we're on death row, God, 256 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: knowing our situation, comes in in the person of Jesus, 257 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: literally into the cell and says to the judge, take 258 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: my life, not his, save his life, Take mine. And 259 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: because Christ is lived the perfect life, fulfilling the law perfectly, 260 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: his giving his life, the blood of the Son of 261 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: God is worthy of all sin. It is the ultimate sacrifice. 262 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: And our response to that Jesus does this, does this 263 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: on the cross three days later, resurrects and defeats death, 264 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: proving the sacrifice worthy. And our response is repent, turn 265 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: from our ways and turned to Him, turned by faith 266 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: to God, changing our mind. Really, you could say that 267 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: for repent, changing our mind about sin, and turning to God. 268 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: And so that's the full counsel of God. It's more 269 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: than Jesus loves you. It is Jesus loves you. Because 270 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: Jesus loves you enough to go to the cross for 271 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: your sin. But without understanding that, we have to respond 272 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: to that, and without understanding what he did and why 273 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: he did it to reconcile us or to bring us 274 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: back to God, to fill in that separation. You have 275 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: to understand the full council. And so just a little 276 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: bit of it. If I just told you that we're 277 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: all sinners going to hell, that's not the gospel either. 278 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: That's part of it. But just as Jesus loves you 279 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: is not all of it. Neither as you're all going 280 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: to hell. We need to bring it all together with 281 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: what Jesus is and who are who Jesus is and 282 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: what he did. Right, So let's make sure that he's 283 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: hearing that, and he doesn't have to hear it over 284 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: and over. He needs to hear it one time. He 285 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: needs to understand what you're saying. One time. There's what 286 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: Jesus did. Repent and believe the good news and you'll 287 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: be saved after that. There's no need to cram it 288 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: out his throat and tell him over and over and 289 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: over again. At that point, you love him. You live 290 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: a life that makes Christ look awesome. You live a 291 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: life that makes him say, what is it about you 292 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: that you have this hope about you? You have this 293 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: peace about you that I can't explain. And then you say, 294 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: remember I told you what Jesus did on the cross 295 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: for sins to bring us to God. In every other 296 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: religion you have to climb the mountain to God, which 297 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: is always too tall. And in Christianity, it's the story 298 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: of God coming to man to bring him to himself 299 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: because man wasn't good enough to do it. You remember 300 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: that story. That's why I live with so much hope. 301 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: That's why I live with so much peace, because my 302 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: work is done. Christ did it for me, and by faith, 303 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: I believe in him. That's why I have hope. And 304 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: he goes, Okay, I don't believe that stuff, but that's 305 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: the life you live, and that's what you want him 306 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: to know. And so it's so tempting to go down 307 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: these rabbit holes of apologetics, meaning that the defense of 308 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: the faith and going up against especially an atheist that 309 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: is probably well versed in his own theology, which it is. 310 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: It is religion. Being an atheist is a religion in itself, 311 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: with its own doctrine and its own apostles and its 312 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: own belief system. Because because you because there is he 313 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: doesn't have the evidence to tell you about evolution. He 314 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: has to have faith in it, right, So he has 315 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: to An atheist has to have a lot of faith. 316 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people would say more than a Christian. 317 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: To have faith in that there is no God requires 318 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: a lot of belief. So because of that, it's attempting 319 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: to follow these rabbit holes that he might these traps 320 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: that he might give you. I will tell you of 321 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: probably gone down most of these rabbit holes and traps. 322 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: And Uh, there there is no way to trap a 323 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Christian and and and pin him into a corner and 324 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: just say I got you. And likewise he's always gonna 325 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: find he's gonna weasel his way out of what you 326 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: give him. So these are just endless rabbit holes that 327 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: just go forever, and they they never find an end. Uh. 328 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: You could go down YouTube and watch debates and you 329 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: could see this over and over. They don't. They don't 330 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: have an end. So love him, tell him, make sure 331 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: he knows the full gospel, love him, and live a 332 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: life that makes Jesus look awesome so that he comes 333 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: to you and ask for a reason for the hope 334 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: that's in you. 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Essentially, I understand 369 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: that if we do believe that, we could just not 370 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: get the vaccines, But what about the people who don't know. 371 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: If they are in fact doing that and someone gets 372 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: it unknowingly, would they still be giving their lives to 373 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: the devil? Thanks so much, Anita. Yet, that's a good question. 374 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: And this is eschatology, which there's certain things on this 375 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: podcast and I don't mind, but there's certain things that 376 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: we just end up kind of going back into, and 377 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: that is the study of in times markt the Beast 378 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: is one of them Anti Christ's rapture, all those kinds 379 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: of things they come up. I have mentioned I should 380 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: say it because I say it every time that I 381 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: think for the most part, these types of discussions can 382 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: become a distraction away from the Gospel itself, which I 383 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: mentioned in the last question. The whole Council of God 384 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: gets hidden in this worrying about the end times and 385 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: the market, the beast and the anti Christ. And this 386 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: question is a great example of that. What if people 387 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: don't know and what if they unknowingly give their lives 388 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: to the devil or they doomed well to that? What 389 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: the Bible says very clearly because the sesschatology stuff that 390 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: the mark of the beast, for instance, is very vague 391 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: and not a lot is known about it. But what 392 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: we do know. So whenever we read the Bible, let 393 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: me say this, whenever we read the Bible, the verses 394 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: that we don't know, are that we're not sure about 395 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: or that are vague, should be informed by all the 396 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: mountains of verses that we do know instead of the opposite. 397 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: You shouldn't take all the mountain of verses that we 398 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: do know and then make them cloudy and ambiguous because 399 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: of one verse that we don't know. Right, So let's 400 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: inform our reading with all the truth that we do know, 401 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: and we do know this. Whoever believes in the Sun 402 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: has eternal life. Whoever does not obey the Son of 403 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: God shall not see life, but the wrath of God 404 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: remains upon him. So, if you believe in Jesus and 405 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: turn from your sins, you're saved. You're saved by faith. 406 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: And by no means would we say you're saved by 407 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: faith unless you accidentally take a vaccine with the chip 408 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: in it that happened to be the mark of the beast, 409 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: and the devil to that says, gotcha, surprise, Ah, you know, 410 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: I beat the system. I got you with this secret 411 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: mark of the beast that you didn't know about. That's 412 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: that would be informing all the scriptures that we do 413 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: know with the stuff that we don't know, right, that 414 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: would be making everything else that we do know cloudy. 415 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: That's what I mean by that. And so we evangelize. 416 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: We tell people about Jesus, who he did, what he 417 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: did on the cross, who he is, Like we talked 418 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: about with the full counsel of God, that he went 419 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: to the cross, that he died for sins, that that 420 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: he reconciles his people back to God. And through faith 421 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: we are saved. It's not by works, and that's we 422 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: could just stop right there and say everything else that's 423 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: outside of that inner circle is something that we shouldn't 424 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: worry about. And so what this question is really asking 425 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: is can people unknowingly take the mark of the beast 426 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: and fall outside of this whole thing you said about 427 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: you're saved by grace through faith And the answer is no, 428 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: that that's impossible. So I do think people will unknowingly 429 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: get the mark of the beast. That's I think that's 430 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: okay to say that. It's fine. But those who are 431 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: not people that would have had a chance to be 432 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: saved by faith, right, God knows his people, God draws 433 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: his people, and the people that would get it hypothetically, 434 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, they either would have heard the gospel, they 435 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: would have had their chance, or it wasn't It wasn't 436 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: in the cards for them. I mean, that's a bad 437 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: way to say it, but you no one, no, let 438 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: me just make this a broad statement. No one will 439 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: end up in hell accidentally, no one, okay, and no 440 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: one will end up in Heaven accidentally. So these are 441 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: let me wrap a bow around this. This is a 442 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: distraction to get you anita away from the fact that 443 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: you were called to tell people the good news about Jesus. 444 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: So go tell them and love them and serve them, 445 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: and live a life that makes Jesus look awesome. And 446 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: don't worry about the mark of the Beast, because if 447 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: you're focused on Jesus and you're being faithful in your evangelism, 448 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: and you're telling people the whole counsel of God, then 449 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: it will work itself out. The Lord will do it. 450 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Let me go to Peter here. That's the next question. 451 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to email me, It's 452 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: podcast at grangersmith dot com. This one says, Hey, Grangder 453 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: been listening to the podcast for a while now and 454 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: it's my daily listen to and from work. That's awesome. 455 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: My question is in regards to the First Church and 456 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: the Protestant Reformation, and you guys are working me into 457 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: a sweat today, says I was raised in a Catholic 458 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: home and a family of eight. No surprise there. My 459 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: parents have always been very devout Catholics and have always 460 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: put God at the center of our family. I started 461 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: going to a Protestant church about four months ago and 462 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: experienced a rebirth of my desire to live for Jesus 463 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: and devote my life to him because of my new church, 464 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: because of the Lord, you mean. But then he says problem. 465 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: Me and my fiance have been attending this church together 466 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: ever since I started going there, and when my parents 467 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: found out that I was not attending Mass or practicing 468 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: Catholic doctrine, they essentially shunned me in a way. I 469 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: planned to have my wedding at my new church and 470 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: not in the Catholic Church, and they refused to participate 471 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: or be seen at a non Catholic wedding slash wedding reception. 472 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: They gave me a homily on why the Catholic Church 473 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: was the one all capital church jesusblished with Peter as 474 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: its head, and why I was following a Christian doctrine 475 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: that did not have the full faith. They also included 476 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: how there are many Protestant denominations but only one Catholic 477 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: Church as the first and oldest Christian church. I don't 478 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: know what to do. I feel so alive for God 479 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: and I want to devote my life to Him with 480 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: this new church. But I faced the scrutiny and backlash 481 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: of my Catholic relatives. My question is what is your 482 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: take on the Catholic Church and the split that occurred 483 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: with Martin Luther. I desire to live for God in 484 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: obey his commandments, but I want to attend a church 485 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: other than the one I was raised in. I've been 486 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: told that I don't have the true full faith Jesus 487 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: gave us if I attend a Protestant church. Any input 488 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: or feedback would help. God bless you in Thanks. Okay, 489 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: you guys are making me work. Peter, so funny. It's 490 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: so funny. Your name's Peter. Okay, let's dive into this. 491 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: This is another one of these questions that comes up. 492 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: It seems like almost every week now that the Protestant 493 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: Catholic debate. And this is something we should start here, 494 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know, this is something wars have been 495 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: fought over for centuries, blood shed in war. So this 496 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: is something that none of us are going to work 497 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: out with a intellectual conversation, so especially quickly on a 498 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: podcast or an Instagram post. So let me say too, Peter, 499 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: what you're experiencing is unfortunately just very common. It's very common. 500 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: And on a side note, as you're reading through the Gospels, 501 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: you'll notice, and you'll feel more than me and my 502 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: Protestant upbringing. You will notice more the the times when 503 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: Jesus talks about you must leave mother and father, and 504 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: all the the the different ways that Jesus is saying 505 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: that he is your family. Uh, and even even himself, 506 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: even his own even in his own mother when they said, 507 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, Jesus, your mom's out there, and he's like, 508 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: this is my mom, you know. So that's going to 509 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: affect you more. It just like it affects Muslims when 510 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: they when they convert to Christianity and their family shuns them, 511 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: and on and on all the different religions. You see this, 512 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: and so I'm sorry, and and you're not alone. There 513 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of there's a lot of different circles 514 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: that you could jump in with people that would say, brother, 515 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: come in here, let's talk about it. We've been doing 516 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: this for seventeen years and this is what we've learned 517 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: from this situation. Okay, So I don't it's probably not 518 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: helpful again to go down the road of the Reformation. 519 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Maybe just we could just touch on a few things. 520 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: You know. The Martin Luther's ninety five thesis came in 521 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: the thesis came in fifteen seventeen, so that was probably 522 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: the flagship of the Reformation, but it was also happening 523 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: all across Europe at the time. It's happening in France 524 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: and England and Scotland, of course, Germany and Switzerland. So 525 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting to study the Reformation thinking of it in 526 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: terms of this was a revival, This was a total upheaval. 527 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: God was moving in a radical way through Europe through 528 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: a revival, and revivals are that's another subject we should 529 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: talk about. When everyone says there's a revival going on 530 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: at whatever university, it's important to remember that God causes revivals. 531 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: If man, if man is planning it, then that's that's 532 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: not a revival, that's just a that's a Christian event 533 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: stirred up with sometimes a lot of emotionalism. But clearly, 534 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: in the sixteenth century God caused a revival through through 535 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: Europe and it went like wildfire. And Martin Luther was 536 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: no doubt at the center of this, but there were 537 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: there were a lot of others that that we could 538 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: we go back and we read their writings and we 539 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: see what was happening, and it's important to remember that 540 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: they were all Catholics. And it's important to remember that 541 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: Martin Luther wasn't trying to split the Catholic Church. That 542 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: was never his intention. He instead, he wanted to be 543 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: faithful to the Church. And he discovered something in his 544 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: own reading of the Bible, which no one was doing 545 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: at the time. No one was doing first of all, 546 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: because it was in Latin, and so none of the 547 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: German people, if we're speaking of just about Luther, nobody 548 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: in Germany was reading the Bible. They couldn't read Latin, 549 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: and so they were going to Mass and they couldn't 550 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: understand anything that was being said. And the Catholic Church 551 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: was holding the keys to scripture itself. And Martin Luther, 552 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: as he was studying through it was just blown away 553 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: by what he was reading and he started to see 554 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: that that wasn't being what was taught. And this was 555 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: before the idea that really the Reformation started of sola 556 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: scriptura meaning scripture is the authority that we need to 557 00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: go by, passed down from the apostles to us. And 558 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: so this was a new idea. This was a new 559 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: thing because before then it was scripture and the Church 560 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: created authority. But the reality is and even Catholics could 561 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: agree to this. The authority was corrupt, it was rotten 562 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: to the core. And at this time these indulgences. If 563 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: you read about what the indulgence is, the Catholic Church 564 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: was charging people to basically free their dead relatives out 565 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: of purgatory. And they were walking around charging people money 566 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: so that you could pay, and usually it was going 567 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: to some kind of church rebuild or a new church 568 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: cathedral being built, and they were charging you, and they said, 569 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: the more money you give, the more dead relatives are 570 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: going to pop out of purgatory and into heaven. So 571 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: go ahead and save them the thousands of years that 572 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: they're stuck in purgatory by ching, ching, ching, you know, 573 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: throwing some coins in the jar here. And that was 574 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: just a drop in the bucket of the problems and 575 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: the corruption that going on through the church. It's also 576 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: interesting to think about go back a thousand years before that, 577 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: and it was in the fifth century when Pope Leo. 578 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: Pope Leo was the first one that decided that he 579 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: was going to read Matthew sixteen and interpret that as 580 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: Peter was the first pope and that the church was 581 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: given to Peter and all authority was given to Peter, 582 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: and that kind of understanding of scripture started with Leo 583 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: because he needed power. You could read about this is 584 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: all you know, this is none of this is private stuff. 585 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: It's all public history. But Leo wanted power and he 586 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: decided to read Matthew sixteen and go, oh, this is 587 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: Peter is the first pope, and so that means the 588 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: secession of pope's comes all the way to me. So 589 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: that means I'm the leader of the world right now, 590 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, essentially. And so it was Leo that started 591 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: this whole idea that the Catholic churches the first church, 592 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: and it was Jesus' church. You know, this argument that 593 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: your parents are giving you, which is very very common 594 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: argument and all Catholics say it, but that started with 595 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: Leo in the fifth century. That's interesting, right, And throughout 596 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: throughout the Catholic Church in those five hundred years before Leo, 597 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: from the Apostles to Leo, and then from the thousand 598 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: years from Leo to Martin Luther, throughout the Catholic Church, 599 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: there were faithful people in there. And there's still faithful 600 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: people in the Catholic Church today, and they're still corrupt 601 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: people in the Protestant Church today. So just because you're 602 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: in one building doesn't mean anything for your salvation. You 603 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: go to the Catholic Church, that doesn't mean you're going 604 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: to be saved. You go to a Protestant church, that 605 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're going to be saved. We already went 606 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: through on this podcast like three times what it means 607 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: to be saved. Your pitn't believe in Jesus, you know 608 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: Theesians two eighty nine. For by grace, you've been saved 609 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: through faith. This is not your own doing. It is 610 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: the gift of God, not a result the works. So 611 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: that no man may boast right that we're saved by 612 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: grace and so not by not by the denomination. We're 613 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: going in now that the argument about all the denominations 614 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: from the Protestants. The Catholic Church loved this, and they 615 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: were able to attack militarily attack the Protestants as soon 616 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: as there was a break, as soon as they saw 617 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: a split in unity, and that split happened with the 618 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: Lord's Supper. Martin Luther believed that that Jesus was in 619 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: the bread that was his body, and his blood was 620 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: the wine in the sacraments and then there was a 621 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: split when when Zwingli and another group of of reformers 622 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: believed that it was it was a a metaphor basically 623 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: it was it was an example, and so is that 624 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: is that? That was the first major split in the Reformation. 625 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: And the Catholics were like, oh, this is great, there's 626 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: a division. Let's attack them. They literally came in with 627 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: military and attack them. So this is like here I 628 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: go again, you know, get rolling down these little, these 629 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: little Reformation rabbit holes. But I think let's just look 630 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: at it practically. Martin Luther says, hey, let's read the Bible, 631 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: and so he translates it to German, and a lot 632 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: of the Reformers were really significant in the first translations 633 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: in the different languages, going from not from Latin sometimes, 634 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: but they were going to the Greek. They'd go back 635 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: to the Greek and translate it into it's into the 636 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: language of the people, to make the Bible the Book 637 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: of the people, which is exactly why it was written 638 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: in Greek. The New Testament was written in Greek instead 639 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: of Hebrew, why so that it could be the book 640 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: of the people because Greek was the common language. So 641 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: it was always the Lord always intended the Bible to 642 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: be read by the people in their native tongue. So 643 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: that's why it was in Greek. And that's why Martin 644 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: Luther and these other guys decided it needed to be 645 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: in German, it needed to be in French, it needed 646 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: to be to be in English, and on and on 647 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 1: and on, and translation work still happens to this day 648 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: as people go back to the Greek and back to 649 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: the Hebrew and translate. So let's think about it practically. 650 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: If you're in a church, do you want to sit 651 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: there and hear the scripture, the transforming Scripture as it's 652 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: read to you, with illustrations and applications for your life, 653 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: so that you could hear the Word of God and 654 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: learn how you could apply that to your own life. 655 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: Do you want that? Or do you want to sit 656 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: in a service where you can't understand anything that's going on, 657 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: because it's a tradition to do that, like practically, which 658 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: one makes sense if you're an alien coming to this 659 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: planet and I just explain that to you practically, which 660 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: one makes sense. None of this is an argument that 661 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: you should use with your parents. Instead, let's go back 662 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: to the wife with the unbelieving husband, and say, in 663 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: the same way you love your parents, you tell them 664 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: the full Council of God. You tell them the Gospel. 665 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: They may be saved or they may not be saved, 666 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: but has nothing to do with the Catholic Church and 667 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with your Protestant church. You could 668 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: definitely be saved in the Catholic trich. I know people 669 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: that are. But is what is more practical for you 670 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: and your wife and your family to learn and grow 671 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: in the knowledge of God. And we grow in the 672 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: knowledge of God by hearing Him through his word. And 673 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: so which one do you get to hear his word 674 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: and grow and learn who He is? So tell your 675 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: parents the Gospel and love them and live a life 676 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: that makes Christ look awesome. Just like the question earlier, Man, 677 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: I go down these rabbit holes, don't I. I'm like, 678 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna talk about the Reformation today. 679 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to talk about Protestant and Catholics. 680 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: And then here I go ten minutes later. It's fine. 681 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: I love these questions, Joel, last one here, and I'm 682 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna try to get to this. It's from Jason, says Granger. 683 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you need to answer this on your podcast, 684 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: but I didn't know how else to get to question 685 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: to you for your thoughts. You were sponsored in the 686 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: past by a local dealership that gave you, that gave 687 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: you new trucks to drive. You made the decision to stop, 688 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: or they dropped the contract. Either way, you're now driving 689 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: an older twenty five hundred GMC, which is awesome. You 690 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: could have opted for a newer vehicle, and I probably 691 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: know your answer, but I'm curious. I am going through 692 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: this dilemma right now. I'm in Kansas, and i am 693 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: blessed with a great wife and family. I joined a 694 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: company thirteen years ago, and I'm fortunate to earn income 695 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: higher than I ever thought would be possible. I say 696 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: that only to share my thoughts. What was once a 697 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: time of buying new vehicles. We just bought our new 698 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: home three years ago on sixty acres, and I have 699 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: pushed to opt for an older truck to not show 700 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: that I'm driven by money. I'm sure none of this 701 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: makes sense, but hopefully you could see where I'm going. 702 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: Was there something inside of you that changed that said 703 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: driving an older truck is exactly where you wanted to 704 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: be and that you didn't need a newer truck to 705 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: prove anything. Thank you and appreciate your videos that you 706 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: put on YouTube. Blessings Jason. Yeah, Jason, thanks for the 707 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: message man, And yeah, that's true about me. I was 708 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: for many years working with a dealership that was giving 709 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: me trucks. Sometimes every five thousand miles that would give 710 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: me a brand new truck, and that was a demo 711 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: so that I could help them sell it. Essentially, I 712 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: would post it on my social media as I got 713 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: it and had new tires on it or something, and 714 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: I would post about it and say how awesome it looked, 715 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: and then and then taged the dealership and that was 716 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: worth it to them. And then right before five thousand 717 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: miles they would come to my house and trade out 718 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: a new truck and grab the five thousand mile truck, 719 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: and that way they could put it on the lot 720 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: and still sell it as quote unquote new if it's 721 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: under five thousand miles. That's what they were doing, and 722 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: it was great for me because I was getting a 723 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: free truck and they were always really nice to drive, 724 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I really enjoyed that. But then whenever 725 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: I left my record label and then left music. It 726 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: was no longer in the best interests of the dealership. 727 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I mean, I don't I 728 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: don't really blame them. It's just business. It's not like 729 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: I was trying to maintain a specific friendship. So it 730 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: was it was just business, and they probably made a 731 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: pretty good business decision to drop me. And but what 732 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: happened was they they called and said or Tyler and 733 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: I went in for the meeting, and we knew that 734 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: this was going to be a meeting where they were 735 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: going to say we're going to end our partnership, and 736 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: so we went in and sure enough, they politely said 737 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: that they're ending the partnership. And as it ended, I'm like, 738 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: I started to think, what am I going to drive? 739 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: You know, like not that it's that big a deal, 740 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: but maybe I'm going to uber home. And they said, no, 741 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: it's okay. You could take your truck and take the 742 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 1: same truck, drive it home and do what you need 743 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: to do. But what they wanted they wanted me to 744 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: buy it. And so I was like, okay, well, how 745 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: much do you want to sell it for? And it 746 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: was like eighty thousand dollars. So I said, I rode 747 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,720 Speaker 1: up the vat. I was like, I'm not I can't 748 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: pay eighty thousand dollars for a truck or whatever that 749 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: monthly payment is, you know, sixteen hundred bucks or whatever 750 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: that is. And they said okay, and I said, I'd 751 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: rather drive a used One's that's the more responsible thing 752 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: to do. So they said, okay, totally understand. So let's 753 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: go get your a used one. So I went to 754 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: their used lot and the oldest thing they had at 755 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: the time was a twenty nineteen and it was like 756 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: fifty thousand bucks. And so that, you know, fifty thousand bucks, 757 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what is that's like nine hundred dollars 758 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: a month or a thousand bucks a month. And I 759 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: was just like, I just had a weird pe and 760 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: I was like, that's just I doesn't feel responsible, and Jason, 761 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't necessarily that I was trying to 762 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: make a statement to the world, like you said, to 763 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: prove that a new truck doesn't prove anything. I wasn't really, honestly, 764 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to prove anything or disprove anything. I 765 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: just thought it was not responsible to pay a thousand 766 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 1: bucks a month for a truck. Then I didn't need 767 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: that nice of a truck. So I told them this. 768 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: They said, okay, how long till you find a truck 769 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: because I said, I want something older than twenty nineteen 770 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: and they're like, we don't have anything older. And I said, 771 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to go look if that's okay on Facebook 772 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: Marketplace and they said, yeah, we'll keep that truck for 773 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: a few more days and let us know when you 774 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: get a new one. So then I found my truck 775 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: I have. Now it's a oh four. I found it 776 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: on Facebook Marketplace and then I saw the price of 777 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: it oh four Chevy, and I was like, oh, much better. 778 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: So I went and bought that one. It was in Conro, Texas, 779 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: a couple hours from me. Bought it, turned in the 780 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 1: truck to the dealership and we were good. I honestly, 781 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to prove anything. I wasn't trying to 782 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: make a statement. In my heart, I just felt I 783 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: felt like I needed to do the responsible thing for 784 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: my family. And if I don't need all the bells 785 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: and whistles of a twenty twenty truck and four with 786 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: a Cassette deck is just fine with me. I think 787 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: that's I don't think there's anymore really to it. Love 788 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: you guys, That's all I got. We'll see you next Monday. 789 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate 790 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: all of you guys. You could help me out by 791 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: rating this podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube, subscribe 792 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: to this channel, hit that little like button and notification 793 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: spell so that you never miss anytime I upload a video. 794 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: YII