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That round of applause. 10 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Just as Jake Ferguson walks in the door, we can 11 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: do it, leven bigger than that. Thank you for coming. 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Timing is everything, as you can tell he already knows 13 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: by watching him play. Thank you for being here. Take 14 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: a deep breath. I'm gonna I'm gonna vamp for a 15 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: minute or two. Hailey has laryngitis. She's had it all week. 16 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: If she was here trying to talk, she would sound 17 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: like this. So she's not here. She said, no, no, Moss, 18 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna try to do this by myself, 19 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: but I think with mister Ferguson, I think I'm gonna 20 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: be okay. Even though the game was on Thursday, it 21 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: is Victory Monday. So thank you to the Victory Monday 22 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: fan club for coming out. And we are at City 23 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Works in the Star District in Frisco. This is our 24 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: regular Monday night stop and we will be here again 25 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: next week after we knew We've learned today formally and 26 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: officially that the Cowboys will finish the regular season in 27 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Washington Sunday afternoon, three twenty five Central, and so then 28 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: we'll have another Victory Monday next week, and then we'll 29 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: get on to several more shows, God willing right here 30 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: at City Works throughout the month of January. So we 31 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: thank you for spending part of your what continues to 32 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: be New Year's Weekend with us. Thank you for those 33 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: of you who have come out here to bask in 34 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: the greatness that is Jake Ferguson, and thank you for 35 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: joining us wherever you are on the Cowboys Radio Network 36 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: and streaming whenever you are and wherever you are on 37 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. That's what the little boxes are for. 38 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Right there, so way to the little boxes that there 39 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: we go, there we go very good. So does it 40 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: feel like so Jake Ferguson, how about how about Jake Ferguson, 41 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: That's right, That's what I'm talking about. Does it feel 42 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: like a week since you played? It feels less? My 43 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: body says less? But yeah, yeah, how hard was that? 44 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Thanksgivings hard enough? And you had not had the experience. 45 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: You never had to play a Thanksgiving game or a 46 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: short week game in school, did you know? So Thanksgiving 47 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: was new to you and the guys who've done one, 48 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: and once you've done it, you at least know how 49 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: to do it. But now two in one year is 50 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: rare because when the Cowboys have played Thursday night games 51 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: in recent years, it's been on a seven day cycle 52 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving. So this was different? And was this easier 53 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: or harder? I mean, I'm a rookie, so I don't 54 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: really know anybody, so I mean I'm just kind of gone, well, 55 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: it was it easier harder than Thanksgiving? Oh? Uh? I'd 56 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: say it about the same. It wasn't much much difference. 57 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Practices were a little bit lighter, just because I mean, 58 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to keep guys fresh, but Thanksgiving, I mean 59 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: I had my mom come in and she was cooking meals, 60 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: so I mean there was kind of yeah, what's wrong 61 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: with that? Yeah? But then I also had the left 62 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: over Christmas cookie, so and yeah it was just perfect timing. Yes, yeah, 63 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: it seems to me you did that all very well. 64 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: That Mike, just a little closer to your mouth. There 65 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: we go. So. Uh. The fandom Cowboys Nation seems to 66 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: be from what I can gather by reading the tweak machine, 67 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: and I try I'm on it. I try not to 68 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: be on it too much. It's I don't think it's 69 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: good for your health. No, are you on it? I 70 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: try not to be on it. Yes, So social media 71 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: and and comments and things, people seem to be in 72 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: a great h state of disturbance over the fact that 73 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: as a team you don't play everybody with the result 74 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: that you got in Minnesota. They just think that once 75 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: having done that, that should be what happens every week, 76 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: especially against struggling teams. And to to that, you say, 77 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: what wouldn't life be perfect? Yeah? If we would we could, 78 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, if you could, you would, yeah, if we 79 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: could do whatever? Yeah, I mean it's I mean, it's 80 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: it's the NFL, you know what I mean. Every guy's 81 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: got the best guy from their college of their time, 82 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I mean you find 83 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: that out pretty quick that you got to bring your best. 84 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: Uh have you felt as we get closer to the playoffs? 85 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: First of all, has there been a rookie wall for you? 86 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Have you hit it? Yes? I did? When when did 87 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: you hit it? I don't even remember what week it was? 88 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: But that was the week before the Colts? Okay, well 89 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: that was right, that was about twelve, the week leading 90 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: up to Colts. Right, you could say that was that's 91 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: about twelve, right, that's when you you'd have you know, 92 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: if you have a Bowl game, you got thirteen weeks 93 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: with time in between, right, yeah, i'd say. And so 94 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: then when your body said no, not really, we got 95 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: we have more to go than I have that internal 96 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: conversation go. It was more just like I woke up 97 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: one morning and I felt like a mummy, and it's 98 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: just like and I was like, oh no, like this 99 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. And then just kind of I mean 100 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of just walked in was like what can I do? 101 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: And then I mean I was just I just felt drained. 102 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: But and how do you get that back? Because physically 103 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: you got the best over there, I mean psychologically and 104 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: mentally you got the best over there too. But physically 105 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: you've got great they'll tell you what to soak where 106 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: and when and how do you get but how do 107 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: you convince yourself that you're actually still fresh as it? 108 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Part of it was luckily Peyton Hendershot hadn't hit his 109 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: wall yet, so he was kind of, oh, I'm good, 110 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: like you'll be fine. Like he kind of got me 111 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: out of the mental part of it. And then luckily 112 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: he hit his wall in the next week and I 113 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: was there for him, and so it kind of played 114 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: hand in hand there. But yeah, I mean, definitely just 115 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: got to do a little bit extra on your body, 116 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: whether it be cold tubs or even just kind of 117 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: just sitting around and like doing like a mental scan 118 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: of like, hey, my whole back hurts, Like what can 119 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I do to fix that? And not just kind of 120 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: laying around and not doing anything. A member of the 121 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: coaching staff who I won't name because he wouldn't like it, 122 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I asked him about if he'd noticed people hitting a 123 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: rookie wall just about that time, about week twelve, and 124 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: he said, no, no, and we we don't talk about 125 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: that because if we do what we want to do 126 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: and the season stretches out that many more weeks, then 127 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: we're really only about halfway through right now. Right someone 128 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: that it got to a point where I think the 129 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: college season was about over, and I mean, being a rookie, 130 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: like we really haven't stopped since college, Like I mean, 131 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I was we trained, didn't really have an off season 132 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: kind of. I mean we had a couple of weeks 133 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: here and there, but um, yeah, you kind of just 134 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: are like, whoa, Like we could have ten games left, 135 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: like we're trying to play ten more games, and then 136 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: you just realize, hey, like those college guys are done there, 137 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: they've got one or two games left. And then you 138 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of that kind of just puts it into perspective, like, hey, 139 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's not just November football, it's December football, 140 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: it's January football. It's like you know what I mean. 141 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: So I remember you saying in sometime in the first 142 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: third of the season, probably after the team had had 143 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: a good game and you'd had a good game, but 144 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: you said something about we're trying to run away from average. 145 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: We're trying to We're trying to be excellent. And I 146 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: wonder if that is a still an easy run to 147 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: think about when you when your body doesn't want to Yeah, yeah, 148 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the mindset you got to 149 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: have the whole time. Um, you got to prepare the 150 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: same keep that same mindset every single week. And yeah, 151 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: it was run away from average and chase down greatness. 152 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: It's quote from Linda Wells, the tight end coach. He's 153 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: a pretty pretty key guy. Oh, I know in your 154 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: development the whole rooms. We'll talk about Linda. We're gonna 155 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: take a break and be back at with our objective 156 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: tonight is to enjoy what's left of New Year's weekend, thoroughly, 157 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: enjoy an elongated victory Monday, and have you walk out 158 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: of here knowing Jake Ferguson as a person, not just 159 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: as an outstanding young first year tight end. I don't 160 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna call you a rookie anymore. I think 161 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: you've played enough where you're you're barely a rookie. Do 162 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: you feel like a rookie sometimes? Okay, rookie tight end. 163 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson's with us tonight and we'll be right back 164 00:09:47,720 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys Hour at City Works. Cole was no 165 00:10:52,559 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: cow was was mm hm to the Miller Like Cowboys 166 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Hour supported by Albertson. Welcome back to City Works the 167 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: Miller Like Cowboys Hour. I'm Brad Sham with our special guest, 168 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson. It's Victory Monday. Victory Monday 169 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: Club is here. They're so excited they drop the Victory 170 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: Monday sign. The Cowboys Hour is brought to you in 171 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: part by Albertson's. When it comes time to shop for 172 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: tailgate favorites, go to Albertson's and Tom Thumb. 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He told us so, And I'm wondering now 178 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: as you're getting close, it's been what two weeks since 179 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: you clinch the playoff spot, and now you're getting close. 180 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: Now you kind of are zeroing in on who and when. 181 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: Although there's still a few moving parts, and I'm just 182 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: wondering if it is feeling any different, is the intensity 183 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: picking up? Is anything changing yet? I think it Well, 184 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: first it just kind of starts with Washington this week 185 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: and in my mind, but I mean, you kind of 186 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: do kind of get that sense just kind of in 187 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: just the atmosphere in general, and just kind of things 188 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: are starting to pick up. And I couldn't really put 189 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: a put a word to it, I guess, but you 190 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: do kind of feel that sense of urgency or but 191 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: you do kind of get that feeling either way with 192 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: it being the end of the season and kind of 193 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: a dwindling down and it being, like I said, December football, 194 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: January football, February football, stuff like that. Are you a 195 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: football fan? Not all players are fans. Um, not a 196 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: huge fan. I honestly didn't really watch NFL football until 197 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I was really watched film. Somebody said, what Yeah, yeah, 198 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not that uncommon. It's really not that uncommon. 199 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I ask is I wonder if 200 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: you watched or paid attention to Philadelphia's game yesterday. Oh 201 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: I watched, Yeah, I watched a little bit of the game. 202 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: Crazy outcome. I mean, there's a lot of good football 203 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:09,239 Speaker 1: on but yeah, was there any part of you that said, obviously, 204 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: we we would like to win the division, so we 205 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: hope that you lose. But if you win and we 206 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: know what the playoff positioning is, then some playing time 207 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: might be massaged in Washington. Yeah, yeah, maybe any part 208 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that I'm just just following orders? Thanks 209 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: very much. Um So, uh, let's describe a little bit 210 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: how the offense and you and Peyton have evolved from 211 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. It was clear to some 212 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: of us. I remember talking to you after the game 213 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: in Denver, the preseason game. I mean, it was clear 214 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: to some of us what your skill set was. You 215 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: can just watch practice every day and watch you in 216 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: the preseason. Same thing with Peyton, but especially for rookie players. 217 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: Ten fifteen weeks down the road, you're a different guy. 218 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: So how how are you different? How's Peyton different? And 219 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: how do you perceive the offense is being different? Oh? Yeah, 220 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: how am I different? And I'd say just kind of. 221 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: I think not only having lunda wells our tight end coach, 222 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: but also having the veterans, those older guys in our room. 223 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: Dalton and Sean, but also having p being able to 224 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: just bounce ideas off off each other, and not only that, 225 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: but where all four of us are playing, like I 226 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: can come out one plane and be like, hey, I'm 227 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: seeing this. Our Sean could come out one plane and say, 228 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: hey this guy just did this or did that. You 229 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's going to help all four 230 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: of us whether what we're doing, no matter what play 231 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: it is, because we're all four out there. And to 232 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: be ability to have that and have that kind of 233 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: communication throughout an office and just kind of get that 234 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: chemistry built up over time. It's something that just not 235 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: only makes a tight end room really good, but also 236 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean the offense and just having that as an 237 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: whole offense as well, and just being able to do 238 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: that as an offense that changes the game. So how 239 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: are you a different football player than the one who 240 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: left Auctionard? Oh? I'd say just being able. I mean, 241 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: first of all, knowing the plays. That helps knowing stuff, 242 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: and then really just the little techniques, Like I said, 243 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: l Dub, not a lot of guys. Luckily in college, 244 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: I was blessed to have a tight end coach who 245 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: taught the little tight the little techniques and just where 246 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: to put your hand, where to put your feet, and 247 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: just certain steps on certain blocks stuff like that. And 248 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: then when I got to this level, it's just a 249 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: whole new level to that and just kind of adding 250 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: to it. Whereas, like I know, Peyton, he kind of 251 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: came up to me and be be like, hey, how do 252 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: you kind of block this on certain footstep like this? 253 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: Because sometimes tight end coaches don't teach that kind of stuff. 254 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're more like leaning towards like the pass game 255 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And just mean having a coach 256 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: it teaches little things like that is I mean, it 257 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: creates a huge jump. And not only that, but being 258 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: consistent at it week by week by week by week 259 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: by week, you're getting reps over over time and you're 260 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: getting hundreds and hundreds of reps and so just doing 261 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: that it becomes muscle memory. And just I mean that 262 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: taking that each day and applying it to a game 263 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: is like the ultimate goal. How is the professional game 264 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: like or different than what you imagined it would be 265 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: When you were Wisconsin, I knew the guys were going 266 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: to be bigger, faster. Oh yeah, they're faster. Well, everybody 267 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin as milk and cheese it up. So they're 268 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: not running very fast. Um yeah, I mean you kind 269 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: of build it up into your head and then I 270 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: mean I remember my first game. It was really the 271 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: preseason game where I was I remember I kind of 272 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: had that feeling where I was like, oh, here we go, 273 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: like this is my first one here, and then you 274 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: kind of catch the first ball or make the first 275 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: block and you're like this is just football, Like, yeah, hey, 276 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: these guys are a lot bigger and stronger and faster 277 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: and smarter, but you can still play football, you know 278 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And um, it's still a game. You 279 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: still train at it, You're still you made it here. 280 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: So um, just kind of thinking that at the same 281 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: time and then just applying all the all the techniques 282 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: and everything that practice. I don't know, if they're smarter, 283 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: they're just more experienced. Yeah maybe, yeah, you'll you'll be 284 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: that guy. And if I'm not very book smart but 285 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: street smart, I'm kind of close. Um, Peyton Hendershot, m 286 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: let's write a scouting report on Peyton Hendershot as a 287 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: football player. I don't know if I want to give 288 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: my true, yes, my true scouting report because then the 289 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: team could use it and get to him as a 290 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: football player. Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, Uh now I'm intrigued. 291 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: First of all, I think he's one of the best 292 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: special teams players. I mean I mean that I've gone against, 293 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: at least especially in practice. I mean, he is chaos 294 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: and he's good at causing it, and that special teams 295 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: is that kind of good chass? No, no, no, no, 296 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean when he wants to cause chaos, he can 297 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: cause chaos. Um. But then I think just I mean, 298 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: i'd just say raw talent and oxen ard. I mean, 299 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: you talk about a guy who can run and then 300 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: who will throw it in there and really, I mean 301 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: I kind of talk about it like, man, this guy 302 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: will risk his body. And then you talk about guys 303 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: who make business decisions and they don't. Really, he's not 304 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: one of those guys making those. He'll throw his He'll 305 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of just go in there and do whatever. Um, 306 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: But it works. And I mean those are the guys 307 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: you want next to you in the trenches and stuff 308 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: like that. Uh, he is Are you Are you tired 309 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: of talking about the relationship between the two of you 310 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: and how it's because it's it's such a fun story. 311 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: How many times did you play against each other? You 312 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: were at Wisconsin, he was in Indiana once or twice, 313 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: So you didn't really know each other real well. We did. 314 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: We knew about each other because there was about three 315 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: years where we were fighting over the top spot in 316 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: the Big Ten and then there's Pat Fiarmouth one year. 317 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: It was like us three and then when he left, 318 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: it was us too. But you didn't know him on 319 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: a personal level like you did. No, like you got 320 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: to want to talk to him. Never talked. I've talked 321 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: a little trash across the field, okay, but never no, no, no, So, uh, 322 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: how did the how did the bonding begin? How did 323 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: that relationship start? Oh? Yeah, really, rookie minicamp Um, it 324 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: was just us two and I don't know. Um, usually 325 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: there's a lot of tight ends in a practice. I 326 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: mean there's two tight ends usually within one play. And yeah, 327 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: there was only two of us. And it was i 328 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: mean our first day in Dallas, really second day in Dallas, 329 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: and it was one hundred and four and I'm from 330 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and I just got off the plane and I'm like, 331 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: oh yeah, like I'm ready for this, Like it's just 332 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: a little hot, and then I started practicing on the 333 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: turf and on the grass, and then he started practicing. 334 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: There was one moment where I think we're ten minutes 335 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: or like fifteen minutes through practice and it's a two 336 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: hour or two and a half hour practice. We're going 337 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: and I remember we're probably fifteen minutes in and I'm 338 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: drenched like this, sitting down and he's on one knee drenched, 339 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: and he's our dub is like, yeah, like we're going, 340 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing. I'm like, I'm dying right now. 341 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: And he's like, you gotta spring me with water, and 342 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: so they're like hosing him down with water and I'm 343 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: sitting there like we were not ready for the heat, 344 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: but we got We got through that practice. And I 345 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: think just being able to push through those rookie ones 346 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: and then really just be a rookie with him throughout 347 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: the whole process was just kind of um. I mean, 348 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: he was like a route running guy coming in and 349 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I was more of the blocking guy, and just being 350 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: able to kind of like bounce off off each other 351 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: was awesome. And uh, I mean that's how you get better, 352 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: is just being able to do that. Yeah, putting a 353 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: room like, that's awesome from just from the football standpoint. Um, 354 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: he's improved a lot as a blocker and you've improved 355 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot as a route runner. Is that a fair statement. Yeah, 356 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: i'd say that. Have you have you rubbed off on 357 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: each other, affected each other? Yeah, i'd say that. I'd 358 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: say the whole room just I mean the whole we 359 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: got a good tight end room calls the four horsemen, 360 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: so good stuff. Um, your personalities, you and Peyton, they're 361 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: they're pretty different. Yeah. Would you agree with that? How 362 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: would you describe yours? Uh, based off of his, based 363 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: on we'll get to him in a minute, based off 364 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: of yours. That's tough. You're putting me in a hard 365 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: position right here. That's my job. You're I mean, you're outgoing. Yeah, 366 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I would not say I'm an introvert by any means. 367 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: You enjoyed talking to people. I'll talk to people. He's 368 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: he's quiet in a sense until he's not quiet, if 369 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: that makes any sense. And when does that happen? You 370 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: never know, You really never know. On the football field 371 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. But really, if we 372 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: were out here, you never know. It could be right, 373 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: It could be right now. We just wouldn't know. You 374 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean, you're like And then yeah, I 375 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: would say I talk a little bit more. I could 376 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: talk really in any scenario if I have to hum. Okay, 377 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: well that gets me too. I'm coming back to the 378 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: two of you and your personalities. But that aspect gets 379 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: me to um. Do you know Travis Frederick? No, not personally, 380 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: you've never met him. I know of him. So Travis 381 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: Frederick came here from Wisconsin as a rookie more polished 382 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: in dealing with reporters than any player I've ever seen. 383 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: And I realized I told him this once during his 384 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: rookie year, standing back and listening to him when people 385 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: were at his locker. And you have a little bit 386 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: of this. Travis Frederick would stand there and smile and 387 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: listen and answer every question and talk for fifteen minutes 388 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: and never say a thing. You walked away feeling like 389 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: you'd like you'd just eaten the greatest meal, and then 390 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: you got home and realized it was all tofu I 391 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 1: mean it was, there was nothing in there, but he 392 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: made you feel great about it. And you, sir, have 393 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: that same gift to yeb. You can surely tell that 394 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: reporters have decided you're you're a guy, You're a go 395 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: to guy. They're coming to you because you're going to 396 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: say something. Yeah, but nothing they'll be said. So that's 397 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: my point. Coach Chris, do you know, Yeah, that's where 398 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: that's from. Now we're getting where where did that come from? 399 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: He's an ultimate wizard at it. He will head coach 400 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: at wiscotsin. Yeah. So he Me and my brother used 401 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: to follow this Twitter page. It was like they'd make 402 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: fun of him and they would just put his quotes 403 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: up and like it'd be a picture him with his quote, 404 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: and he'd be like the reporter would be like, hey, 405 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: like what differently are you gonna do if it rains 406 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: or if it doesn't rain, and like like the ball 407 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: being wet and versus like quarterbacks hand or something like that, 408 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: and he goes like something about like if the weather 409 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: makes it rain, then it's gonna rain and that's gonna 410 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: affect us in a certain way, but that depends on 411 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: if it rains. And it was like that quote and 412 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: you just like what people are scribbling frantically frantically and 413 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to get to their keyboard to type it out. 414 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: He'll act like he's gonna give you something like a 415 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: really big answer, and then he'll just kill it. He shot. 416 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: On the other hand, when you see him and you 417 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: see that personality that you've described that comes out on 418 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: the field and you can see the just kind of 419 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: like he's like a puppy chasing cars playing football. That's 420 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: he just running around. He loves the game. Well, yeah, 421 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: and you love the game. Yeah, but he loves it 422 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: in a different way. He's okay, and you expect then 423 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: that when you go talk to him, you're gonna get 424 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: what you give people. That's not what you get from 425 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: Peyton Hendershot as a reporter. No, well, yeah, as a reporter, 426 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: if you would walk up to him on the street 427 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: and would maybe talking to him, if the Victory, if 428 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: the Victory Monday crew walked up to him, they would 429 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: he would be fired up. Give him the fall, Peyton Hendershot. 430 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: We should have brought them tonight. That would have been 431 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: a would have been great. Yeah that if we if 432 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: we do enough of these, we'll get him out here 433 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: and then we'll get him here as the guest and 434 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: then you can come again him on from the from 435 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: the audience. Yeah, he'd be fired up. What was the 436 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: genesis of the um kettle thing? The whackam mottle thing. 437 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: We just did that literally the day of we thought 438 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: of that. The day of, aren't the day before? You 439 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: realize the first time there were a bunch of people 440 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: asked him about it since he was the whacker, and 441 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, we've been working on it for two 442 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: weeks and there's no way. Of course, of course there's 443 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: a two weeks ago the kettle was it out. We 444 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: we didn't know what the kettle was made of. So 445 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: if you if you watch us, I struggled to get 446 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: in because we didn't know it was foam, and then 447 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Sean almost falls out getting out because we didn't like 448 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: it was hard to get in because it was actually 449 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: like I didn't think all four of you were getting 450 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: in it. We didn't either. They're like, are we going 451 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: to get in? And then it was like we could 452 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: all When I went down, I almost got stuck because 453 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: they spread out and I was like, guys, move and 454 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: like I had to get out of there really fast. 455 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: But whose idea was its? Marv a tight end room 456 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of thing? We all four of us, we were 457 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: sitting in there. That's a lie, that's a lie. They 458 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: all say it was your No, they all say it 459 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: was your idea. Nah. Maybe yeah? And how about how 460 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: about was it your first touchdown where you last sued Schultz? Yeah? Yeah? 461 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Oh? I used to watch 462 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: a lot of rodeos when I was a kid. I uh, 463 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the mutton busting when you were when they put little 464 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: kids on the sheep and they sent them out. I 465 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: always wanted to do that. How did you talk Stanford's 466 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz in to be in the calf that you? 467 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: Literally was like, has anybody ever roped a calf? Like 468 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: for a touch on celebration? Because we were talking about 469 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: doing like something and he was like, He's like no, 470 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: but that would be funny. And I was like, why 471 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: don't we just do it? And he goes, who would 472 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: you rope? And I go you and he goes, all right, 473 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: he goes, you better get in, and I go, I'll 474 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: get in. And then I remember we were walking in. 475 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: I got off the bus walking into the locker room 476 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: at a T and T, and I was I had 477 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: my headphones in and Dak walk up to me and 478 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: brush my arm and I took my headphones out and 479 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, let's go for like, I want 480 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: to see a lassa today, and I go. I was 481 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: like in my head, I'm like, oh my god, I'm 482 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: scoring today. And I just put it back in. And 483 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: so from then on, I was like, we're doing it. 484 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: Like I remember, I walked up, walked right up to 485 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: my locker and my lockers right next to the Doulton, 486 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: and I go, we're doing it, and he goes all right, 487 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: and so yeah, can you can you if you want to? 488 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: Can you talk just about anybody into just about anything. Nah. 489 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: We had some funny ones playing, but there's no way. 490 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: For instance, I had one where we had all eleven 491 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: of us going like this in a single file line 492 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: off the field, like all eleven yeah, kind of riding 493 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: riding up pony for that it's radio. So we had 494 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: one where it was um, everyone lines up and whoever 495 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: scored is like the guy serving at the Salvation army 496 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: and there with plates going like this and you run 497 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: off eating. We had what's wrong with that? Why does 498 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: that not happen? Well, I mean a lot of the 499 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: old line and don't want to move. It's a lot 500 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: of running. We got some other ones playing we'll see 501 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: you have some more in the bag of tricks. Oh yeah, 502 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: there's there's a ton in the bag of tricks. It's 503 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: just whether or not you can get guys to do it. 504 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: Give me one more we had. Okay, we don't like 505 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: him mad at me because he really wanted to do 506 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: this one, But I don't see us doing it. It'd 507 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: be Peyton scoring and it would have to be us 508 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: in fourteen personnel with me, Sean Dalton, you say that 509 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: means all four tight ends of us have to be 510 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: on the field and when we score, and what we 511 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: would do is Peyton would lay like a log. And 512 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: what we do is I get his legs and they 513 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: get his upper body, and we kind of like we 514 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: pretend like he's in a coffin and we kind of 515 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: like walk him off the field and kind of like 516 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: do a little shimmy as we walk off the field. 517 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: But there's no way we could get Peyton to just 518 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: sit still like us. You didn't have to be fourteen. 519 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: When do you think of this stuff? Yeah, I mean 520 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm just sitting and when I can't sleep, I'm 521 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: just sitting there thinking. Anytime, Well, sometimes we finished meetings 522 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: and we just sit there and just brainstorm shootof ideas 523 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: of just random stuff. Doesn't have to be celebrations. It 524 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: could just be like we got a bunch of RC 525 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: cars and we might just customize them and race them somewhere. 526 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: These are grown men, ladies and gentlemen, and they are 527 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: having fun playing a kid's game. And don't try to 528 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: tell me you're not enjoying watching them doing what they're doing. 529 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson's our guest on the Cowboys Hour tonight. We're 530 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: brought to you in part by Lou Casey, the official 531 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: bootmaker of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Will be right back 532 00:32:46,560 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 1: to City Works m HM to the Miller like Cowboys Hour, 533 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: supported by Alfredson. Welcome back where at the City Work 534 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: to the Star District of Frisco. I'm Brad Sham along 535 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: with our special guests on Victory Monday Cowboys tight end 536 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson, and we will be here again next week 537 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: next Monday night, after the Cowboys conclude the regular season 538 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: against Washington Sunday afternoon three twenty five Central Time. Those 539 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: of you who have come out to City Works tonight 540 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: who would like to ask Jake a question you know 541 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: the drill will have the microphone that'll move amongst you 542 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: in a few minutes, and if you hold your hand up, 543 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: then you get a chance to ask Jake where his 544 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: inventiveness and natural brilliance come from. You're from, needless to say, 545 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: a football family. Everybody. I presume people know that your 546 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: grandfather is the great Barry Alvarez. How much did that 547 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: influence what you did as a football player? Where you went? 548 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: Did you have a choice? Were you ever going anywhere 549 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: but Wisconsin? I always said, I was like, so I 550 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: first started getting recruited when I was like a sophomore. 551 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: Well he wasn't still coaching, was he No? But he 552 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: had come back and coached a bowl game, right, I 553 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: remember that being coached bowl game and then a Rose Bowl. Okay, 554 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: but I started getting recruited, and I was like, I'm 555 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna treat everybody the same, like like, look at Wisconsin 556 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: the same. And then I remember I got an offer. 557 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: I got a couple offers from other schools and then 558 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: started piling up, and then I finally got one from 559 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and I literally lived like five minutes from campus, 560 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: and then just also just going everything, just being around 561 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: my grandpa and like I knew the coaching staff really well, 562 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: like I was I was. I knew coach Chris when 563 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: I was in diapers, like literally I grew up with 564 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: his kids. Knew everybody. And then I remember it was 565 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: one day I was just like I was like, Mom, like, 566 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: should like should I just commit? Like should we just 567 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: go back and commit? She's like, yeah, you probably shouldn't. 568 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it another her dad, Yeah, day, 569 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: and I was like thinking about It's like if I 570 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: didn't go to Wisconsin, I probably wouldn't be able to 571 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: go to like Thanksgiving dinners are like Christmas or like 572 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: anything at that like in that family's you know what 573 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: I mean. And just like kind of happening. I was like, oh, 574 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: like and then yeah, I mean he kind of was like, yeah, 575 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: it was a good choice, you know, he approved. Um. 576 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: I'm so interested in the fact that the tight end 577 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: position you don't see too many first round tight ends anymore. 578 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: Pits in Atlanta is a different kind of athlete. But 579 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: there were several of you taken within just a small 580 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: group in like the fourth round last year, and I'm 581 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: sure I'm guessing you got to know those guys fairly 582 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: well by through the combine and all the rest of 583 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: that stuff. Oh yeah, yeah. And and do you kind 584 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: of form friendships with guys in in uh who wind 585 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: up going to other teams? Yeah, I mean yeah, so 586 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: I played I mean Senior Bowl with him and then 587 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: you you're at the combine with them, and then really, 588 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean those are your guys who are with the 589 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: whole process. So just being able to train with a 590 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: couple of them too. Um, yeah, you meet a lot 591 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: of people, but I mean you and the tight end 592 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: position is a rare position. I mean you rarely read 593 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: meet a tight end who's just like a weirdo or 594 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: like a bad guy like that. That is rare. Just 595 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't know something about it, Um, like he's not 596 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be mean to you or something like that, 597 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: Like he's gonna he'll talk to you and like being 598 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: a normal guy about it. And how do you define weirdo? 599 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: Just for reference, I've known a lot of tight ends 600 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: like he's just not I don't know how to explain, 601 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: like he's gonna talk to you and not just kind 602 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: of like shrug you off or like be bogus or 603 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: like you know, you could be able to talk to 604 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: him what, I'm too much like an old lineman. There's 605 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, we're half alignement, high skill position. Do 606 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: you like that? And I mine? And I love alignment? Um, 607 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: I do too. As a matter of fact, what was 608 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: there ever a thought of playing a different position? How 609 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: did you come to that? One? I almost played defense? Um? 610 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: I was. I played middle linebacker and then one high 611 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: school didn't really account because we weren't very good. Plus 612 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: everybody plays everything. Yeah, um, but yeah, I would have 613 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: been an outside linebacker. A couple of college offers were 614 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: for an outside linebacker, and and that was it. I 615 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: had a couple of looks at punter, a couple of 616 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: Division two schools. Really, So are you the backup putter? No? God, no, 617 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: maybe maybe if they gave me a shot. Um, why 618 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: did you not play linebacker? I don't know. Wisconsin wasn't 619 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: a They didn't offer me linebacker. If they would offer 620 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: me a linebacker, probably would have played linebacker. Um. Not 621 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: being a football fan, were there any tight ends that 622 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: you watched when you were at Never any of them? 623 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh at Wisconsin? Yeah? Not in high school? Oh, I 624 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: didn't watch any football growing up. In college, I probably 625 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: watched Kelsey maybe Kittle, m Yeah, gronk, a lot of 626 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: gronk growing up, not growing up, but early college. But yeah, 627 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: really those three were big ones. Did you ever see anybody, 628 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: including or not including any of those three who you 629 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: said that's I could do that? That reminds me of me? Who? Um? 630 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of you kind of see it 631 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: through technique, especially like I said earlier, how I was 632 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: kind of learning technique kind of early on, and that 633 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: thanks to Wisconsin and m my tight end coach. They're 634 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: Mickey Turner just teaching the little things. You kind of 635 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: see how maybe sometimes guys at the next level don't 636 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: learn certain certain things or certain techniques or hey, this 637 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: might help them, or maybe they're not getting it done. 638 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: And granted it is in the NFL, and they're not 639 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: always going to be able to get it done and 640 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: it's not always going to be perfect, but um, just 641 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: being able to watch that and like compare doing that 642 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: from Nebraska d End to a guy doing it against 643 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: the Saints the end, and I can do that against 644 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: this guy in college. But that's the whole thing is 645 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: how are you going to be able to get from 646 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: that to where you're going to dominate one guy in 647 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: college too. You've got to dominate the next guy in 648 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: the next level, and that's just kind of that bridge 649 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: you gotta gap. You mentioned Lunda Wells a couple of times. 650 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: You're tight ends coach. He's a really outstanding coach. A 651 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know a lot about him. He's 652 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: not terribly always visible to the public, really outstanding coach, unique, 653 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: unique guy. Can you be a little more specific about 654 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: how he has influenced you and how he sets the 655 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: tone for your room. Yeah, he's one of those coaches 656 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: that he's just he's gonna tell it to your straight 657 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what it affects. I mean, he's 658 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: gonna be he's gonna be straight to your face. He's 659 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: gonna give you the truth, and that's what you need 660 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: as a coach. You need somebody. But then at the 661 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: same time, he's not going to tell you that and 662 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: then just bail on you. He's gonna be there and 663 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: he's gonna help you through it. Or he's you got 664 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: a question, or you got you got something, or hey, 665 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: this isn't hinting your brain right, He's gonna make sure 666 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: that gets that way, and he's going to take the 667 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: time out of his day to kind of get to 668 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: that and get you to that point. And having a 669 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: guy like that and having a coach like that, especially 670 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: as special and you don't get that at every You 671 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: don't get that at I mean high school sometimes you 672 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: get that, college sometimes you get that, and then apparently 673 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: the NFL you very rarely get that or something sometimes never. 674 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: And luckily being a rookie in this having him as 675 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: my first coach, it's been a blessing and just kind 676 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 1: of have him just kind of be under his wing 677 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: on this first year and also having Peyton next to 678 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: me has made it I wouldn't say easy, as Bud 679 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: has made it kind of made it more, made it 680 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: more special, made it more durable, made it more something that. 681 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I walk in every day and you hear 682 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: the stories about the guys who pull into their cars 683 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: and they're like here we go, like like they got 684 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: to gather themselves. I get out of my car every morning, 685 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go get it. Like I don't mind 686 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: sitting in a meeting room with Peyton, Sean Dalton and 687 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: eld Up for four hours watching film, like watching the 688 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: same game, Like I don't mind that because it's a 689 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: good room. I know I'm going to learn, and even 690 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: just sitting there, I'm probably going to get better. When 691 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: did you know you wanted to play pro football? Oh? 692 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean probably that was ingrained in my brain. I 693 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: mean really, yes, my brother wanted to play for pro football. 694 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: My dad wanted to play pro football. So, I mean 695 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: I came out a big baby and my dad I 696 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: saw that, saw an opportunity, so scholarship. Yeah, so he 697 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: was like hey, and my brother was already My brother 698 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: was four years old than me, so he was locked 699 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: in on football from the jump. So, I mean that 700 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: was our whole thing. We always wanted to be professional 701 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: football players. We'd throw on those little football helmets and 702 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: play in the basement. My brother would throw my head 703 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: through the dry wall. Good stuff. Yeah, you mentioned that 704 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: back in the summer. How many times did your brother 705 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: throw your head through the drywall? You don't understand how 706 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: many pieces of furniture we had to move to cover 707 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: the holes in the drywall. I got beat up pretty good. 708 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: Tell people the number and the birth order again. How 709 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: many of you it was just me and him, just 710 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: the two of you. Yeah, yeah, he's four years older 711 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: than me and and he took it out on you 712 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: all the time. Oh yeah, have you ever even the 713 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: scales at all? He wouldn't. He doesn't want that. I'm 714 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: being I'm being the bigger person. You're in the NFL. Eventually, 715 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: at some point maybe I'll snap getnim. Cowboys tight End 716 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson is our guest tonight on the Cowboys Hour. 717 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 1: We are on Victory Monday at City Works. I said 718 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: victory Monday at City Works. There we go the Star 719 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: District in Frisco and we'll be right back with your 720 00:46:31,160 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: questions for Jake after this m B to the Miller 721 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: like Cowboys Hour supported by Albertson. Welcome back to City 722 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: Works in the Star District in Frisco. I'm Brad Sham 723 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: Hayley Sutton will rejoin us next week. We're delighted to 724 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: be with Cowboys tight end Jake ferguson this evening day 725 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: off tomorrow, right because it's a Sunday game technically, Yeah, 726 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 1: what what what does that mean? Just go? I mean 727 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: still got to do some stuff like little routine. You know, 728 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: what's so, what's your what's your seven day route? You're 729 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: not on seven days, you're on ten but what what's 730 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna got a massage early in the morning, and 731 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: then I'll kind of go home, lay off a little bit, 732 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: maybe take a nap. But then I always go ice 733 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: tub and that's contrast. And then I'll sometimes get in 734 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: the sauna. But if I'm doing the sauna, I'll do 735 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: sauna for thirty minutes and then I'll do a cold 736 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: punch and that's nice. And then I'll always go like 737 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: roll out stretch. Um, just kind of just get my 738 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: body moving a little bit. You don't really want to 739 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: sit around too much. Don't be a don't be too lazy. 740 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: I gotta write that down. That sounds like very good advice. Okay, Joe, 741 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: do we have some questions for Jake. Good evening, Jake. 742 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing good? How about you? Great? Thank you? 743 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 1: My name's Rambo. Quick question. I think this is pretty 744 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 1: basic question, but I think a lot of people would 745 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: probably ask this. How does it feel to play for 746 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: the most popular team in sports? The Dallas Cowboys? Yeah? Yeah, well, 747 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean one, this is the place, I mean everyone was. 748 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: I was like, where do you want to go? Or 749 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: what are your top three? And it was always here. 750 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this was always one of them. Wait seriously, yeah, 751 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: always Why I mean, America's team is it's the Dallas Cowboys, 752 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, but not only that, 753 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: I would play with them on Madden all the time, 754 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: so they were my team for a while. And then 755 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: like I remember telling my mom this other like not 756 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: too long ago, but I was sending in a game 757 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: and I remember I was like, Mom, I looked up 758 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: and I was like I saw Dak and then I 759 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: saw Zeke and I was like I used to play 760 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: with these guys in mad and I just kind of 761 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: like looked down. I was like, oh, WHOA. I like 762 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: just had like a little moment and it was like 763 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: I remember telling her and she's like yeah, like that's 764 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: like a big deal, and I'm like yeah. And then 765 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: you kind of first you first kind of get in. 766 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: You're like all right, you're in the NFL. Finally, but 767 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: then they start to tell you you're like no, like 768 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: you you're on the Cowboys, like like it's like the 769 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: biggest organization, Like people know about you everywhere, and so 770 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: like I mean, they're not gonna like if if someone 771 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: gets in trouble, they're not gonna be like Jake Ferguson 772 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: did this, They're gonna say Dallas Cowboy, and if you 773 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: play for three other teams, it'll be former Cowboy Jake Ferguson. 774 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: Trust me, that's just how that goes. You're right about that, 775 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,280 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, mister Jake Ferguson, as well Mascar Romwell. 776 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: So my question is how did it feel throughout the 777 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: preseason to where number forty eight? I felt like I 778 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: could run somebody over way easier, like it was something 779 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: about me. And did you do you wish like you 780 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: would have still had that number? I do think I 781 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: do think about that a little bit. Uh Me and 782 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: Peyton were talking about that not too long ago. Um 783 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: I said something to him. I was like, man, like, 784 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I almost feel like I should have 785 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: kept forty eight, and he got He was like, He's like, yeah, 786 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: like forty eight would have been sweet and I should 787 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: have kept forty nine. And I was like, no, no, no, no, 788 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: forty nine was a bad number. Eighty nine looks good 789 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: on him now. But yeah, I mean there is always 790 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: that little kind of thought in my back of my head, 791 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 1: like forty I mean I did like the way look 792 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: for sure? Did they did? They did they tell you 793 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: you were changing usually the players? Yeah? Yeah, I mean 794 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: there there aren't a lot of guys out there right 795 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: now who are catching balls and forty eight and I mean, 796 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. That's 797 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm so I was so torn between 798 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: the two. You know about Darryl Johnston, you know who 799 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, the moves forty eight. Yeah, yeah, I 800 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: need a handoff before I get If I get a handoff, 801 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: then you'll go back to forty eight. Back, I'll go 802 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 1: back to forty I'll speak to call. Yeah, hey, Jake, 803 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: my name is Chris and I'm a Manisonian. Yes, sir, 804 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: your granddad is a legend back home. Was it very 805 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: hard to live up to zach expectations? And also do 806 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: you like rods or brisket? Oh? I'm a broad sky Yeah? 807 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: Was sourkraut? Uh. But yeah, my brother, Luckily I had 808 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: my brother who was four years older than me. Um, 809 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: so he kind of took the brunt of everything, kind 810 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: of um having to live up to those expectations and 811 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: just kind of I mean he kind of had that 812 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say shadow, but almost kind of like that 813 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: feeling where hey, like, if I get in trouble or something, 814 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: something's gonna happen, you know what I mean. And I 815 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 1: was the opposite. I was kind of he didn't really 816 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: want anybody to know his grandpa was our grandpa, and 817 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: I kind of ran around telling everybody because I mean, 818 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: I just ate that up. And then when I finally 819 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: got to college or high school, especially a lot of 820 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: it A lot of people thought he went to Wisconsin 821 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: because of my grandpa and that's the only reason he 822 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: got in. And then he started playing and showing people that, 823 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: proving them wrong. And then he earned a scholarship, and 824 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: then I mean a lot of people said, my scholarship 825 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: is because my grandpa, and then just being able to 826 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,399 Speaker 1: change that and kind of prove them wrong with something 827 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: that made me feel good. But at the same time 828 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: that really didn't really matter to me. What was that 829 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: I went to Madison Memorial so they changed the name 830 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: of it, so I don't know what it is now. 831 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: One minute left, Go ahead, thanks. What was more exciting 832 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl or Opening Night versus Tom Brady if 833 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: we were Oh we lost both games, so that's tough. 834 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl just because I mean that that's somewhere 835 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: place my grandpa had coached, and that was huge, Like 836 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean just being able to kind of be in 837 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: that atmosphere and be around there and that's like one 838 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: of the most historic places ever. If we would have 839 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: won opening that, I mean, I would have had to 840 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: say that. But if we since we lost, Yeah, Um, 841 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: do you pay any attention to possible playoff matchups? You 842 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 1: no idea where you might swill in the playoffs. I'm 843 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: weak of kind of guy. You're Washington, You're locked in 844 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: on Washington. Don't let anybody tell you where you're probably 845 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: going for the first round to the playoffs. Thank you 846 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,479 Speaker 1: all very much for coming out in victory Monday. Thanks 847 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 1: to Jake Ferguson. I appreciate you. Thank you very much. 848 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: The great Jake Ferguson and the Cowboys play in Washington 849 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: against the Commanders three twenty five Central Time, Sunday afternoon, 850 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: right here on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Hayley and 851 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: I'll be back here and sit. He works in Frisco 852 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: next Monday on the Cowboy Hour. This has been a 853 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 854 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: Football Club.