1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for another episode of By Order, 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: the Faithful Survivor edition. Well's here alongside Dolores Delores. I 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: love the hat, thank you so much. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Paul bought it for me. He's kind of my stylist, 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: is he. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not funny because my wife also a 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: dresses me. 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: So we're both the guys in the relationship. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: I feel like. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: You think it's so funny that I'm not emotional. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: I love that you're going to kick out of that. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Is Paul emotional? 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: He's temperamental. 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, he's not like a crier, but I think 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: he's cried more than me in this relationship certainly, and. 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: He gets more worked up about things easily, you know. 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: But I guess. 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, speaking of crying, we have to I guess 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: shed a tear for Mike White, who exited stage left 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: way too soon. Are you surprised that Mike White went out? 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: I am, I am, and I I mean we're still 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: Your theory still holds true that I know you're thinking that, like, 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm still in. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm still in, and I mean we're good. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: So I'm like, freaking well, he's right, Like we saw 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: so much of Mike Way. We didn't even get to 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: see him get a tan, Like I was waiting for 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: him to get that jersey tan going. And you know 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: he did leave with even better abs than he showed 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: up with, of course, because he's appreciated at this point. 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, stage left very sorry to see him go. 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: We love him. 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: Everybody's a fan, I know. 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that after Mike White 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: sees this episode that Christian will not be invited on. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: He's out. Yeah he's not on the B list, he's 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: on the de F list. 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I would say, Like everyone 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: was kissing his ass because I think they want to 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: be on White Lotus. But I know what White Lotus pays. Okay, 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, being like basically an 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: extra is a lot less than winning Survivor and a 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: million dollars. 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: I think that, judging by how you live on this show, 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: money isn't like the biggest thing, because like I know, 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: with my money, I buy stupid shit like different kinds 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: of soaps and toothpaste from Italy and fancy brushes and 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: they're not even chopped. 49 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: Like I don't think like money is everything to them. 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: It's the what would you call it? The experience? 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I want to say, Yeah, I'm probably the desire for 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: competition and to win, right, like competitive, I think it. 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Takes a certain person. And I want to speak to 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Sophie about this. 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: It really does take a certain person to be able 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: to endure even the thought of this, because when I 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: watch it, I'm cringing, Like Sophie didn't eat for fourteen 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: days on her season, and I don't think that I'm 60 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: capable of that. 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I'd be in bark off a 62 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: tree or something. I don't know. 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: I I'm so perplexed with is this something that I 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: would want to challenge myself to do? 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: Or is this just disgusting? 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: As it also seems dangerous to like not eat for 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, a fortnight. I feel like that's not a 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: good thing for your body. I yeah, I'm a mazed. 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: And then you know, this last episode was a good 70 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: example of you could tell how tired and emaciated everyone was. Yeah, 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: in the group that like didn't get that didn't win, 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: that they couldn't even push the boat and it's because 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: they have no they have no fuel to burn inside 74 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: their bodies anymore, which is just Yeah, it's like a 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: domino effect there. 76 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know that I have to like, 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: would you do this? 78 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: I was. 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: I was at dinner last night with a good producer 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: friend of mine who has worked on the Bachelor, and 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: he was a producer on Survivor, and he was like, 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: he was asking me about about Traders and if I'd 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: want to go back on the show. And I was like, no, 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: I think, I I think I you know, I went 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: on that and I think I'm good, but I would 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: like to go on Survivor. And he was like, wells, 88 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: you do not want to go on this show. You 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: don't know how bad everyone smells. 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, stop, Well, I'll throw up. 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: I know. He was saying that there was a guy 92 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: that had a mustache and he would coat his mustache 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: with carmes so he could only smell carms and not 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: smell himself and everyone else. 95 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: I am, I don't know that, but I'm cut out 96 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 2: for that world. 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, very excited about this episode. Today, we're joined by 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Sophie Bullardi, a twenty seven year old entrepreneur from Miami, Florida, 99 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: who finished his runner up on Survivor forty nine. Sophie 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: was known for her resilient underdog story and strong social game. 101 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 1: Throughout the season. She bounced strategic gameplay in relationship building, 102 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: using advantages and positioning yourself as a flexible player, willing 103 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: to flip if needed. Her ability to connect with others 104 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: helped her reach the final tribal council, where she ultimately 105 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: lost in a five to two to one vote. She's 106 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: often remembered as a scrappy, strategic, and personable competitor who 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: overcame a rough start and nearly won the game. Sophie, 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 109 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: Hey, hello, guys. 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: You're wearing your cool bandana for us. 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: I know I had to bring out the buff for you, guys. 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: I'm really excited to be here. 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Has it always been the buff? 114 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 115 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: I think so. 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 117 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know when it changed, but as 118 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: far as like I can remember, it's a buff. 119 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: Why do we call it a buff? I don't know. 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: I think the. 121 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: Actual like the name of what this is is like 122 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 4: a buff, Like the brand is called buff for like 123 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: god being and hunting, Like people will wear it a 124 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: certain way. 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 126 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're so excited to have you. 127 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm to be here for you've. 128 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: Done so well, like everyone loves you, your fan favorite. 129 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: I could see why have you gotten in? 130 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: Were you engaged when you were on Survivor or have 131 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: you gotten engaged? 132 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 4: So I was hoping that while I was gone for 133 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: that long that he was out shopping for a ring 134 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: and he was. I was ready to come back and 135 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: be like I'm on CV now, buddy, Like you know, 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 4: I had options, but now you know he was smart. 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 4: He was smart. He took the time, got a ring, 138 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: and like soon after I came back. 139 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: Beautiful, congratulations. When's the wedding date? 140 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: November fourteenth? 141 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: Oh is it going to be on an island? 142 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: I live in Miami, so it'll be here and it's 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: still nice over here. 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: So it's so beautiful. Well yeah, thank you, thank you, 145 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: And you. 146 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: Know it's exciting because I always like to ask people 147 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: what made you like this? 148 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: How did you start this? 149 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: Because it's not anything me or wells will probably could 150 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: ever do. We love watching it, so thanks for that. Yeah, 151 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: but I mean we would die. But so your your 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: grandma huh she loved this? 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so my grandma she was a Cuban immigrant, and 154 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: she would watch like American TV to try and learn English, 155 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: and Like Survivor happened to be one of her favorite shows. 156 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: I think she was like obsessed, Like she thought Jeff 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: Probes was so hot, so that's why she That's what 158 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: lured her in, and it would get me to watch, 159 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: right and like, so what kept her watching was like 160 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: the fact that she would like watch it to learn English, 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: and she got hooked by that. And my parents worked 162 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: a lot growing up, so she would take care of me, 163 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: and then we watched it together, and so I grew 164 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: up watching with her. So even when she got really 165 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: sick and was older, we watched it together. And I 166 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: kind of wanted to give her like an extra special 167 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: season of the show to watch, so I started applying 168 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: to try and get on and like so she could 169 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: watch me. But then she ended up passing away before 170 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: I sorry, it's okay, but I mean I felt her 171 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: in spirit out there. I felt was like priceless. So 172 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: for that reason, it was like such an incredible experience, 173 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: even though. 174 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: I lost how many years did you apply before you 175 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: got on, dude? 176 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: It was eight years in a row. I tried, but 177 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: I did almost get on a couple times, Like I 178 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: got to the finals, and like I got a couple 179 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,119 Speaker 4: of calls, so I knew they like they were interested, 180 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: but I never actually like sealed the deal. So until 181 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 4: this past year. 182 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: Sophie, of all the people, like they they like try 183 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: to get on and everything, what is it that makes 184 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: them pick you? Like thousands, hundreds of thousands of people 185 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: are reaching out. 186 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like you guys could probably answer 187 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: to this as well, like why you got on the Bachelor, 188 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: you got on the Housewives? Like I feel like it 189 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: does take a type of personality for me personally, I 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: was told is like just like being unfiltered and myself 191 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: and not really caring what people think. I think is 192 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: a big thing, like it's a TV show. And on 193 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: top of like, on top of that, I think they 194 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: they're thinking in a different way when they're casting Survivor 195 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: because we're not eating, we're not sleeping, so they're basically 196 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: like relying on us being entertaining in those conditions, right, 197 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: And like, dude, it is so hard to even form 198 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: a sentence when you're for me, like I spent eleven 199 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: days where I didn't eat anything when I was on Survivor, 200 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: and so the fact that I was able to, like 201 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: still go to tribal council and answer Jeff's questions, Like, 202 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: I think that's something they look for in casting because 203 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: they have a yapper and you just have something to 204 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: say even when you shouldn't. But I think the most 205 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: important thing is just being yourself and they see through that. 206 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you guys know how intense some of these 207 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: casting processes are for these shows, and they definitely go 208 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 4: into death. Uh when casting Survivor. 209 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: How do you prepare for a season? Do you you know, 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: do you practice like fire making skills? Do you do 211 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of puzzles? Like do you gain as much 212 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: weight as possible? 213 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Like? 214 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: What what do you do to get ready for this thing? 215 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: So? 216 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: I don't know when they told you guys who were 217 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: gonna go on your shows, but they gave us a 218 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 4: notice a month before, So yeah, only a month in 219 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 4: a lot of time. No, So I didn't There's nothing 220 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: really I could do. Like, if you're bad at puzzles, 221 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: you're not gonna get good at them in a month. 222 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 223 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: So I was bad at puzzles, and I was bad 224 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: at puzzles in the game, and I was also like 225 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm not very physically fit, so I think the fan 226 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: in me, though, was like prepared mentally for the game. 227 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: I think that's the best thing you could do. Like, 228 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: if you're if you know the game, I think you 229 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: can you could probably make your way through as much 230 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: as possible. So I didn't really prepare at all. I 231 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: tried to like get a flint and start fires, but 232 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: I almost start fires in my I'm like, you know what, 233 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna wing it. 234 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: What did you do before? You? Like, what do you 235 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: do outside of the Survivor game? 236 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: Like? 237 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: What did you do before? 238 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: Like I like in terms of like my job, Yeah, 239 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: oh so I have like a boring job. I work 240 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 4: in like finance, and I have my own business. 241 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: Here. 242 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: It's like not interesting at all. 243 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: What's your business? 244 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: It's like a cell phone repair business. I went to 245 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: I got my MBA at Duke and then I started 246 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: my own business. 247 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: That's a big deal. 248 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's cool, but like the business is not 249 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: super sexy, so I don't really talk about it. 250 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: Well, but that's so funny, and you should be proud 251 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: of that and proud of so much that you do. 252 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: I see you. 253 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: You seem to be like. 254 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: Super humble downplaying that you went to Duke. I barely 255 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: graduated high school, so that's like a really big deal 256 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: for me to hear that from you and then to 257 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: do so well. 258 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Do you think, what do you think prepared you for this? 259 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: Though? 260 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: Like socially wise, you're great, right, yeah, well. 261 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was like my biggest strength in 262 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: the game, my social game, because I wasn't physically like 263 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 4: winning much actually lost, Like I think I broke a 264 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 4: record of like how many challenges I lost, but I 265 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 4: still got myself all the way to the end by 266 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: just like not giving up and using like my social 267 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: abilities to talk to people in the game. But honestly, 268 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: like for me, and probably one of the reasons why 269 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 4: I was cast was like I'm like a daughter of immigrants, 270 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: Like I come my parents, my grandparents, everyone was immigrants, 271 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: Like they come from nothing, and like all I've known 272 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: in my life is like seeing and hearing stories about 273 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: struggle and perseverance. And while I was out there, that's 274 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 4: all I reminded myself about, like the fact that my 275 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: parents and my grandparents sacrificed so much for me to 276 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: grow up in the in the US, and like I 277 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: signed up for this struggle. I signed up for Survivor 278 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: to Tanadi and it was all temporary, but it was 279 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: a dream that I had and I was able to 280 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: do because of the sacrifices my family made and like 281 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: they had been through so much worse without signing up 282 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: for it. So I kept that in my mind, like 283 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: may Awla, my grandmother, my parents, everyone has been through 284 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: so much and so much more than me, and I'm 285 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: so privileged to even be here. So I was like, 286 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: suck up and stop complaining. Don't feel sorry for yourself, 287 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: because you're gonna be home eating whatever you want in 288 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 4: like two weeks or three weeks. And that's kind of 289 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: what kept my like was in the back of my 290 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: mind the entire time. 291 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: So you're very mentally mentally strong. 292 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: Was there anybody that you saw when you got there 293 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: that you felt like, uh, they're not gonna make it, 294 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: but they did? 295 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 296 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: Honestly, you guys are watching season fifty right, Yeah. 297 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Rizzo is. 298 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: He was like one of my best friends on season 299 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: forty nine. We both kind of ran the game together 300 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: with Savannah, who was voted out like two weeks ago. 301 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: And he's someone who when I saw pregame, I was like, 302 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: my guy's gonna have a tough time because he's skinny 303 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: and like like a little kid. Yeah, he looks like 304 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: a little kid. I thought he was like under twenty one. 305 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: But then like he opened his mouth the first day 306 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh okay, Like he he he 307 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: could talk. He's a sweet talker. He can get around 308 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: people in that way. And like, I think personally, like 309 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: strategy and social is so much more important than being 310 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 4: physically fit for survivor. 311 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: How does being angry affect your gameplay? Because I feel 312 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: like that would be my downfall where I'd be rude 313 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: to people because I was so angry. 314 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: You girls get angry angry. 315 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Everyone does. 316 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: Everyone does. Yeah. My family like thought for sure, they're like, 317 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: she's gonna get voted out because she's such a bitch 318 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: when she but I was like, I mean, I just 319 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: kept my eye on the prize the whole time, Like 320 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: I just picked and choose my battles. If something pissed 321 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: me off, I would try and internalize it as much 322 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: as possible. 323 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: Your curban, it's hard to hide that temper. Don't tell me. 324 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: I know Cuban girls, I grew up with Cuban girls. 325 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: I know guys that dated Cuban girls, they're afraid of you. 326 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: It's true, but like, dude, you'd be surprised, like I 327 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: did pretty well in that sense. And I honestly, I 328 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: think it's because physically, like the lack of eating made 329 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: me so much less, like I just had no everything. Yeah, 330 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: and I just I realized out there, like my personality 331 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: takes a lot of energy, like I need food, I 332 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: need to sleep. And I think it worked in my 333 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: favor the fact that I wasn't eating, because I just 334 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: was like, if that pissed me off, I'm just gonna 335 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: like just I'm gonna go vent about it in my 336 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: kfessionals to the producers. But I'm not gonna, like, you know, 337 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: take it out on them, which. 338 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: I get that, Like I had a question for you, 339 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: like but I but knowing your Cuban and knowing your background, 340 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: like how did you survive it? 341 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: And did you ever consider leaving? 342 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: But I think that Cuban women are two way too 343 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: stubborn to consider leaving. 344 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: Did you ever though? Am I wrong? Hell? 345 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: No? 346 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: I was literally talking to my friend about this yesterday. 347 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: I was like, I literally thought about so many negative 348 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: things while I was out there because of how miserable 349 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: it was at times. But not once that I think 350 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: about quitting, Like, not once like that based on you 351 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: any day? Yeah, not once. 352 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of the eating, what was the longest streak you 353 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: went on of not eating on the show? 354 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, eleven days and and I cannot stomach coconut, So 355 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: that's what people would eat on the island, but I 356 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: could not swallow it. I don't know why, Like it 357 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: made me gag, and so I just didn't eat anything. 358 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: And then on day twelve, I me and my tribe 359 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: won a reward where I got like a grilled cheese sandwich. 360 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so it was great. I mean, but it 361 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: wasn't like everyone's like, oh she finally ate, But it's 362 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: like I had a grilled cheese. It was probably like 363 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 4: two hundred calories after not eating anything. 364 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, did they worry about you not eating? Is there 365 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: a protocol where they're like, listen, you can't. 366 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: You got to find something you like here. 367 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: If it's tree bark or it's like mouse, I don't know, 368 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: but you got to eat something kid. 369 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 4: Honestly, no, I feel like they've maybe seen people go 370 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: longer because I never was told by a producer like 371 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: you got to eat. I mean they suggested it, but no. 372 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: You could live off your own fat if you had 373 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: any app Yeah. 374 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't look like she's got any though. 375 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: No, I know I'm saying, like no, I. 376 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: Actually, well I gained weight before I went out there. 377 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: That was like the one thing I did to prepare. 378 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: I like put on like ten pounds. Yeah, so I 379 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: mean it didn't help me much, but like I guess 380 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: it did maybe in those moments. 381 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Do you ever watch that show alone? 382 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: No, I've never seen it. 383 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: Okay, So basically they just drop people in like the 384 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: middle of the wilderness and they just try to live 385 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: there as long as humanly possible, and the last person 386 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: to like give up is the winner. And they do 387 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: these health checks or they'll come in and be like 388 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: you are like way under weight right now, like this 389 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: is getting dangerous from the game. Was that a thing 390 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: that ever happened on the show? 391 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: So we before every single day we see not every day, 392 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 4: every time we have a challenge and a tribal council, 393 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: we see medical. So we'll go into this tent right 394 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: before a challenge or right before tribal where we'll get 395 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: micd up. Will they even have an HR person. Well, 396 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 4: they'll check in on you if anyone's like bothering you 397 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: production wise or in the game, just to check in mentally, 398 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: and then also medically, like they'll be like, hey, is 399 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: anything wrong, Like some people would get like ringworm or 400 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: like they would be super constipated, And they would help 401 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: out with certain things like that, not very much, like 402 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 4: they don't want to interfere with the game at all, 403 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: which I love about Survivors. No, which I love especially 404 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: as a fan going into the game. It was really 405 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: cool to see that. But they will help you. I 406 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: feel like they won't give you like a protein bar 407 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: or anything. But I'm sure that if I was actually 408 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 4: like giving signs of like malnourishment, they would probably suggest, 409 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: like hey, try to eat a coconut or something. 410 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if you could go back, would you place 411 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: yourself on a different tribe or did you kind of 412 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: like enjoy being the underdog? 413 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: I mean, dude, I don't think I think I would 414 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: put myself on a different tribe. I don't care. A 415 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: lot of people were like, oh, but you got so 416 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: much screen time because you went to tribal council, like 417 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: the first five episodes, I'm like, how can you say 418 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: about screen time? I will I'll get this time if 419 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: I'm on the other time and I'm eating and I'm 420 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: not losing, you know, because I feel like I'm more 421 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: entertaining when i'm wel fed. So I was like, it 422 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: was pretty miserable to be on the losing tribe every 423 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: night because there's so much even behind the scenes you 424 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: don't see when you're constantly going to tribal council, Like 425 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: physically you're exerting so much more energy walking along the 426 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: beach getting to tribal You're staying up late later than 427 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 4: the other tribes that aren't going to tribal council. And 428 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 4: then and that's why there's like this cycle of the 429 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: same tribes losing over and over because they're just they're 430 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: not getting flint, they're not getting food. Morality down. No, 431 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 4: I would not treat I would not want to be 432 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: on a losing tribe again if I went back. 433 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: But would you see do you feel like because you 434 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: didn't turn on your friends, Yeah, which I am all 435 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: for it, even a bigger fan of you for that. 436 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: I'd rather see you. I mean, it's not the way 437 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: you play. 438 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: It's not the way to win. Do you think that 439 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: not doing that was part of your not winning? 440 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: For one hundred percent? 441 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: Short? 442 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: And it's so funny because when you go into the game, 443 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 4: you have this like idea of how you're gonna play, 444 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: and then you actually get there and you're you're you're 445 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 4: giving these like moral dilemmas and and it kind of 446 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: tests you as a person. And I thought I was 447 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: gonna go in there and be like, I'm gonna cut 448 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: this person's throat, this person's throat, And I did that 449 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: when I wasn't like emotionally invested in certain people. But 450 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 4: then you get to a point at the end of 451 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: the game where you spend enough time with certain people 452 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: in the game where you're leaning on each other literally 453 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: surviving on an island with them, and you fall in 454 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: love with people. And that's how I am, Like, I 455 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: just fall in love with people. And I found it 456 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: so hard to turn my back on my people. Who 457 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: are who are my best friends? Now worth a million dollars? 458 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: I don't know that those friendships, I would say, so 459 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: they're pretty priceless, I would say, But like, at the 460 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: same time, I think if I were to go back 461 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: I would definitely like take emotion out of the game 462 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: more if I can. But dude, when you're out there, 463 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 4: you're like really stripped down to who you are and 464 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 4: your bones, and maybe who I am is just someone 465 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: who's not able to do that. I don't know I 466 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 4: would need it. 467 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: You still that very far, keeping your soul and your 468 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: integrity and everything else. 469 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: So I'm definitely high five. 470 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: In you for that, because the real gamers would cut 471 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: their own mom's throat. 472 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: Like I saw that in Traders. 473 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 4: I know, so did I so I, and like, I'm 474 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: such a fan of these shows, so I wanted to 475 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: play like that, but I couldn't. Like I just it's 476 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: not who I am. 477 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. I'm very proud of you. 478 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: How do you distinguish the lines between gameplay and actual backstabbing, 479 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: because I feel like it's a gray area, but there's 480 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: definitely a distinction. 481 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a survivor, there's a lot of downtime. 482 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: I feel like in terms of strategizing on who's going 483 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 4: to go home, it's probably all together maybe two three 484 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 4: hours of the day, but the other twenty hours of 485 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: the day you're spending time with these people and you 486 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 4: could just be yourself. So like I just I would 487 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: do it like that. I would kind of balance where 488 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: I would just be for the majority of the time myself, 489 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 4: and then when when I needed to game and be cutthroat, 490 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: I would just switch on. And that kind of like 491 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: helped me mentally out there where I didn't feel like 492 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: I was lying twenty four to seven, Like when I 493 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: was talking to people about my life and my family, 494 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 4: like I was being true to myself. It only was 495 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 4: like when it came down to the wire of like, Okay, 496 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: we're going to tribal council a couple hours, we need 497 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 4: to get somebody out. This is when I'm turning my 498 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: game face on and I'm gonna have to lie to people. 499 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: So that's that's how I did it. 500 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: Isn't it easier when you're just not close with anybody, 501 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: but you still have to become close with people because 502 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: part of the strategy is a social game. 503 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: For sure. 504 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 4: I wish I could play like a detached game like that, 505 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: but it's just so hard to in Survivor because not 506 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: only are you trying to like survive with other people, 507 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: create bonds and alliances that will help you, and people 508 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: will vote with you and not vote you out. But 509 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: when you vote people out, do you want them to 510 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: vote for you to win at the end too, So 511 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: you really do need to make these like genuine connections 512 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: or there's no way you're gonna win. 513 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: You're either gonna get vote a fine line. 514 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're either gonna get voted out or you're 515 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: gonna go to the end and no one's gonna vote 516 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: for you. So it was super hard to do. Yeah, 517 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: that's why I surviveor So it's a hard game. 518 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: It is. All these games are hard. 519 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: You won the Final Immunity Challenge, which is such a 520 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: big deal. When you won that, did you think that 521 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: the million dollars was yours? 522 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: So no, there's like, at no point did I feel 523 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: super confident in Survivor. Like as long as I felt 524 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 4: like as long as I was in the game though, 525 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: there's always a chance to win. But it was gonna 526 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: be an uphill battle because one of my good friends 527 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: in the game, Savannah, who you saw on season fifty, 528 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: was such a beast on my season, Like physically she 529 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: was I had her in the social game, like I 530 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: got along with everybody and she didn't really but physically 531 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: she would win. She basically won out to the end 532 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 4: because she won four communities, and then I ended up 533 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: winning the final immunity where I had the choice to 534 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: put two people in fire against each other, and that's 535 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: when I put her in Rizzo, and I was hoping 536 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: that Rizzo would win that fire, but Savannah won it, 537 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: and then she ended up winning the game because she 538 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: had so much on her resume. So I didn't feel 539 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: confident at all because there was still a chance that 540 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: I was gonna end up sitting next to her at 541 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 4: the end, and that's ultimately what happened, and I think 542 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 4: ultimately what lost me the game. She was just like 543 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: a little bit more impressive than me in the game. 544 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, but. 545 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: They were pretty impressive. But when you look back on 546 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: forty nine is there do you have any regrets or 547 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: are you happy the way you played? 548 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm proud of the way I played, but 549 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think there's things I could have 550 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 4: done differently, like still backstab my friends where it would 551 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: have it wouldn't have changed our friendship now outside the game, 552 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 4: and it would have garnered a little bit more respect 553 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 4: at the final three, at the final tribal where I 554 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: needed the votes to win, so I think maybe that. 555 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: But I don't like saying I have regrets because I 556 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: still could have lost if I did something different. So 557 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, no, I don't have any regrets. 558 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: But you always have what if. So if you lose 559 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 4: these games, you're always gonna think, what if I talk 560 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: to this person, what if I did that? But I 561 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: want to say I have any regrets, you know, well. 562 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's better that way and be proud 563 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: of what you did. But so as far as the 564 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 3: cast on season fifty, did it meet your expectations or 565 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: did you expect other people? 566 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: Did you know who was coming? 567 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 4: So it's so weird because last year I was I 568 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: didn't even know I was on Survivor forty nine yet 569 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 4: because they filmed forty nine and fifty in the summer. 570 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 4: But I was so excited already for it because I'm 571 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 4: a super fan of the show, because I knew there 572 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: was gonna be big names like Suri and maybe Auzy. 573 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 4: So I was excited as a fan. But now I'm 574 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: like an alumni who has friends on season fifty, like 575 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 4: they even I don't know if you guys knew me on, 576 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: like you didn't watch forty nine, but they mentioned my 577 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: name on last episode, so like I'm in the story 578 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: influencing it in a weird way, and like as a 579 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: fan now it's just like another level watching the show, 580 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: like being in alumni with friends on it. I'm sure 581 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 4: you guys feel the same way when you watch like 582 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: Fellow Housewives, like that's where on the Traders, Like it's 583 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 4: so weird and fun, more fun to watch. 584 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: To be honest, are you bummed that you weren't asked 585 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: to be on fifty? No? 586 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: Because physically these people only Rizon Savannah only had nine 587 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: days in between forty nine and fifty. That's crazy. I 588 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: physically could not handle that because I, like you said, 589 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 4: like I was the underdog of my season, which meant 590 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 4: like I've just had the least to eat. And I 591 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: think that if I were to go on fifty, I 592 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 4: would just be like ten steps behind everybody. So I'm 593 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: happy that I didn't get chosen because like, maybe I'll 594 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: get chosen in the future for another season and I'll 595 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: be physically maybe more ready for it. 596 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: The cast of Survivor fifty have Have they met your expectations? 597 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: And who you loving to watch on your TV screen 598 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: right now, So I. 599 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 4: Think they have This season is so good already, and 600 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 4: a lot of people have a lot to say about 601 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: like the forties, the new era format, how it's only 602 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 4: twenty six days. But I think that this season is 603 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: proving that it doesn't matter how long the game is, 604 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 4: what twists and turns there are, Like, as long as 605 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: the cast is good, the show is going to be 606 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: good too. And I don't know, I don't know about 607 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: you guys, but I'm enjoying it because you guys survivor 608 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 4: fans from before or like this is like a new 609 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: season for you. 610 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan in the beginning of the show, 611 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: like when it started, and then I think I fell 612 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: off a little bit. But I'm really really enjoying watching this. 613 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: So who do you think is going to win this thing? 614 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 4: Now? I'm like looking at people like Surrea because they 615 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: keep showing other people talk about her in a way 616 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: where she's threatening, but everybody likes her, and like this 617 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: episode she got barely any screen time, but I don't 618 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: see her going in the next episode, so I don't 619 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 4: know if she's somebody who I don't know if it's 620 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: like wishful thinking that I just want her to win, 621 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: but I think she would be my Winter pick. She's savage, 622 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: by the way, Yeah, she is savage. 623 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: She's good at all these games. Well, Sophie, thank you 624 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: so much for coming on by order the Faithful Survivor Edition. 625 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: This is your part one. Next time, we're going to 626 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: come back with you and we're going to recap all 627 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: of episode four. You down for that. Let's do it 628 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: all right, everyone out there, if you're not following us 629 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: on social media, please do at by order of the 630 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Faithful DMUs any questions, concerns, or people you'd like for 631 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: us to interview in the next episode. 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