1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, and in Odessa I met 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: the mother of a fifteen year old girl who was 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: shot by an A R fifteen, and that mother watched 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: her bleed to death over the course of an hour. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Because so many other people were shot by that A 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: R fifteen in Odessa and Midland, there weren't enough ambulances 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: to get to them in time. Hell, yes, we're gonna 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: take your A R fifteen, your A K forty seven. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: We're not gonna allow it to be used against follow 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Americans anymore. I thought that is the best moment Betto 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: has had since he announced for running for president. A 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: terrible topic, daft to talk about, obviously, but it's genuine 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: and real and he seems like a real human being. Now. 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: I think the policy is not going to fly very 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: well with the majority of Americans a government gun confiscation, 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: but Betto had some real moments and Bernie gurgled and 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: July and called Biden scene island. That's just part of 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: the uh, the equation with the debate. Last night, We're 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk with Lannie Chen now, David and Diane Stephie 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: research fellow at the Hoover Institution. Maybe our favorite political 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: pundit that we ever have on the air, and he's 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: got a podcast will tell you about coming up, Lonie Chen, 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the arms Strong and get a show. So 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: I do I ask everybody this, I'm wondering how many 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: people actually watched the whole three hours, but it's less 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: than a million in the whole country. Do you watch 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the whole three hours? Yeah? I mean I did good 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: for you that people usually drop off after the first 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: thirty to forty five minutes. I mean, that's that that 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Just remembering from you know, when I did a lot 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: of work with CNN and they had the metrics on this, 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: it seems like most people can stick around for that 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: first half hour, then they go and get a pizza. Yeah, 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. So like when you 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: were prepping candidates, when you're working with either in you know, 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney or or whoever else, Um, do you guys 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: know that and try to get your best stuff in 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: early knowing people are going to go away later. Oh yeah, absolutely, 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean you you definitely wanted to make a strong 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: first impression and usually maybe front load whatever is most 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: newsworthy or whatever they perceived to be the most an 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: issue first. So for example, last night, we saw a 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of healthcare earlyaking, a lot of healthcare early, and 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: so since they tend to do that. And then to 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: that point, I was watching the debate and I probably 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: watched two hours of it. Then I went to UH two, 47 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: started fast forward the clips I heard people talking about 48 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: on social media. But early on I thought Biden was 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: strong and made his points and separated himself from the 50 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: other candidates and got some shots in man his last 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: couple of answers, aside from his closing thought, which I 52 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: thought was fantastic and another real human moment um, his 53 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: last couple of answers were a rambling old man who 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: had been on stage for three hours. Yeah, no, I 55 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: think that's right. I think he started off strong and 56 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: performed well when he needed to perform well, which was 57 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: right as the debate got going. You're right, towards the 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: end it was rambling. Uh. You know, I I thought 59 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: that exchange with Julian Castro was the exchange of the debate. Um. 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've played it today, but the 61 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: one where basically Julean Castro accuses Biden of being old 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: uh and and you know, I didn't think it played 63 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: well for Castro obviously, but but for Itiden at least, 64 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was probably his strongest debate to date. Yeah, which, 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, when you've got a double digit lead and 66 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: you have your best debate, that's a pretty good position 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: to be in. Are are we really down to a 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: three person race? And uh and even the two that 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: are chasing Biden got to figure something out if they 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: want to beat him. Yeah, that sounds right to me. 71 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: I think you know, you've got Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, 72 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, You've got a couple of other people who 73 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: could potentially make their way back into it at some point, 74 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: but the odds are beginning to look pretty slim for 75 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: people like Kamala Harris. Uh. Corey Booker would be another, 76 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: you know better. Rourke did have that moment you played, 77 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: but you know, his campaign is effectively done anyway. He's 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: always certain for a moment. Anyway, I'm going to go 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: to to curse words when I feel like I need 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: to to create a moment. It's the same playbook he 81 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: had when he ran for the Senate in Texas. And 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: by the way, what Beto Rourke did last night. Is 83 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: he basically guaranteed he'll never win statewide in Texas. He'll he'll, 84 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: he'll just not. He doesn't have a political future in 85 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Texas given the position he has on guns. It's just 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Yeah, let's talk a little bit. Yeah, 87 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was going to bring up issues as 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: opposed to people, the issue of mandatory gun buybacks, and 89 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and the moderator said, some critics would call that a confiscation. 90 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: That's because that's what it is, a confiscation. How does 91 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: America feel about confiscation of guns? Yeah, I mean, I 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: I still think in general you'll find that most Americans 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: probably don't like the idea. I think most Americans will 94 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: perceive themselves as being for sensible gun control. And I 95 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: the reason I used that phraseology is because what is 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: sensible obviously in the eye beholder. And you know, when 97 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: you talk about background checks, expanded background checks, you talk 98 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: about assault weapons, uh, some controls on that, limits on capacity, 99 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: things like that, I think people say, yeah, that makes 100 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Now, when you start to get 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: into policies which are even arguably confiscatory, then I think 102 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you run into a little bit more difficult I think 103 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: people generally out there would say, yes, we need more 104 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: common sense control. But the defining common sense is really 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: the difficult part of this. And I don't think that 106 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: Beta or Rourke saying you know, yes, we're gonna come 107 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: after your A R fifteen, I don't know that that 108 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: is something that a majority of Americans would say, Yeah, 109 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: I agree with that policy. Talking with Lan heat Chen, 110 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: who you see on a variety of the big national shows, UM, 111 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: and he's also got a great podcast called Crossing Lines 112 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: with Lan hea Chen. The latest episode, Meet the Boss 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: features the new Congressional Budget Office director. UM. Maybe you 114 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: talk about that on your podcast, the budget and everything. 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: But not a lot of deficit talk on the debate 116 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: stage last night, of course, neither was there on the 117 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: Republican debate stage. Yeah, you know, it's one of those 118 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: things that we've talked about this before. I just don't 119 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: know that it's a topic that that resonates as much 120 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: as voters anymore. You know, I thought the interesting thing 121 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: last night is there wasn't a lot of talk about 122 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: the economy general, right, you know, there was some talk 123 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: about China and trade, but for for a topic that 124 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: really animates most voters decisions when they get to the 125 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: ballot box. To not spend more time on the economy 126 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: was disappointing, and I would have liked them to say 127 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more about what they planned to do 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: on the economy. If the economy slows and we enter 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: into some kind of recession, what's their plan, what are 130 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: they gonna do? We didn't hear much about that. Now. 131 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: Part of that might be because they don't have a 132 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: lot of ideas for how to how to get out 133 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: of it that are particularly unique, and so maybe they 134 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: you know that the moderator's figured let's not talk about it. 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: But for such an important topic to spend such little 136 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: time is very interesting. I don't want to sound like 137 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: Julian Castro going after Biden's age, but he had a 138 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: couple of rambling old man answers, and he had some 139 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: sort of mouth tooth problem at some point that's become 140 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: a like a meme on the internet. I mean, those 141 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: are serious things to worry about, aren't they. Well, it 142 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: was I don't know if you've caught Corey Booker that 143 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: they Corey Booker had an interview I think it was 144 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: on CNN after they asked the debate, and he said 145 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: something which I thought, you know, was right. It was 146 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: sort of cringeworthy, but right. He said a lot of 147 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Democrats are worried about Joe Biden's ability to get the 148 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: football across the goal. Lock Uh, because because it's like 149 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: you know, you can you can see him running and 150 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: running a running and at some point out, oh, he's stumbled. 151 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: To your point, I think that's the concern. His numbers 152 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: are durable. Joe Biden's numbers are pretty durable and still 153 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of support. But you're right, there are 154 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: these moments where people are reminded that Joe Biden is, 155 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: first of all, who he is he has been his 156 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: whole political career. Who's somebody who you know, rambles and 157 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: and goes on tangents and isn't particularly focused. And then 158 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: the age issue does kind of come back into it 159 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: more subtly, and I thought Booker did that much more 160 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: effectively than Castro did during the debate. But then the 161 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: last question, which was you know, what, what have you overcome? 162 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: What's the biggest hurdle you've overcome, biggest setback you've ever 163 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: had to overcome, and Biden's answer about what's really important 164 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: in life and and and losing family and a car 165 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: wreck and the cancer and stuff. I thought there aren't 166 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: many politicians that can pull that off without sounding jivy, 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: and he can, Oh, absolutely, and and and you know, 168 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: it's an incredible life story. It's a tragic by the story, 169 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: and it's one which connects with people. You know, everybody's 170 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: experienced pain of some sort in their life and to 171 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: hear that and and and I think that resonates with people. 172 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what makes ultimately what makes Joe Biden, 173 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: I think the front runner of the strongest candidate. It 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: makes his policy positioning. It's not even his ability to 175 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: be Trump. Really what it is this humanity. And I 176 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: think the more he connects with that humanity, that more 177 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: people will forgive him the rambling, they'll forgive him the stumbling, 178 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: they'll forgive him the thing that don't sound coherent, and 179 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: they'll realize that he's just a guy who wants to 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: to to do well for his country. And I think 181 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: that's something that will be very appealing come next November. Wow, 182 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty good, right there, long Hea Chen, that's interesting. 183 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: I think you're right, um And and it really makes 184 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Julian Castro attacking and make it look even worse. Yeah, well, 185 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, it comes back to this question again, did 186 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: anybody realize Julian Castro was running for president? You know, 187 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: and it makes him look like a small man, which 188 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: which you know last night would suggest he is. Um 189 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: the part of the debate that made me the angriest, 190 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: And I just wonder why it works this way. You 191 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: got Jorge Ramos from Univision up there and he tries 192 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: to force Joe Biden in who apologizing for a Democrat 193 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: president deporting a few people because it was the law, 194 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: because we have illegals in this country. Why did the 195 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: questions come from at such an extreme point of view? 196 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: Or Ramas is clearly an advocate for illegal immigration. Well 197 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: remember the premise of these debates, his conflict the you know, 198 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and this is not just I'm not just speaking about 199 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: the network that hosted last night. I'm saying any network 200 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: hosting any debate, they want to see fireworks. And so 201 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: the premise, the fundamental premise I think Ramos was going 202 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: after the same premise you're going to see future money, 203 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: which is, will Joe Biden draw a distance from Barack Obama? 204 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden disavow things that he was part of during 205 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: the Obama administration that progresses in Democrats now feel is 206 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: passing a bad policy, and so that's what he was 207 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: trying to do. And but I think it's not the 208 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: last time it's gonna happen. You're gonna see plenty more 209 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: efforts in the future to separate and distance Joe Biden 210 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: from Barack Obama. Unfortunately, I think for the networks, Barack 211 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: Obama remains very, very popular, and it's gonna be tough 212 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: to get Biden to really disavow things that he did 213 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: during the Obama administration. But that's a dynamic that we're 214 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: seeing there. They're trying to get separation, they're trying to 215 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: get conflict, and I would expect to see it again. 216 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: The podcast is called Crossing Lines with Lana heat Chin. 217 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: Got a new episode called Meet the Boss we just 218 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: told you about with the Congressional Budget Officer Office Director, 219 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: and more episodes on the way. Lan he Chin, thanks 220 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: for your time today, Thanks for having me. Have a 221 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: great weekend. You bet you. I think he's absolutely right 222 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: about that. When when Biden does his real human moments 223 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: like he did at the end of the debate, there, 224 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: the sort of stuff that, like I keep saying, Hillary 225 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Clinton couldn't come within a hundred miles off. Then he'll 226 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: be forgiven a little bit for some of his old 227 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: man's stumbles in the same way you might be uh, 228 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're, you're okay with your your grandfather 229 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: or whoever. Uh, you'll you'll excuse some of the old 230 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: person stuff that they struggle with because you like him. 231 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: My grandparents don't have nuclear codes as far as you know. Um, yeah, 232 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: I got I'll tell you what. I just keep picturing 233 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: him giving that long, rambling answer where he went from 234 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: phonographs to Venezuelan back on a stage with Trump and 235 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: Trump turning toward the audience and say, well you think 236 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: of that, and just and just killing with that moment. 237 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see a strong and getty