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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Ted Cruz that we can review

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Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you and hear are the big stories

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Speaker 2: that you may have missed that we talked about. First up,

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Speaker 2: what is next for Venezuela after Donald Trump went in

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Speaker 2: to get one of the biggest narcotarists in the world.

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Speaker 2: We'll have the answer to that for you in just

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Speaker 2: a moment. Also, Democrats were actually in favor of getting

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Speaker 2: Maduro and demanding it, even having money on the line

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Speaker 2: for those that would turn him in. But now they

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Speaker 2: hate Donald Trump because he got him. What's behind all that?

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Speaker 2: And finally the Minnesota government, including the governor, now says

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Speaker 2: he wants to go to civil war with the federal government.

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Speaker 2: It's the weekend review and it starts right now.

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Speaker 1: What is next?

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Speaker 2: And let me just I could look at my Twitter

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Speaker 2: feed and I was on CNN last night and it

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Speaker 2: was the topic of conversation, and that is there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of people that believe that America First policy

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump ran on was not invading country reason

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Speaker 2: staying indefinitely like Iraq, Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: There is a lot of concern. I heard it.

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Speaker 2: You probably saw the clip of Lindsay Graham on Air

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Speaker 2: Force One with the President saying, you know, this is

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Speaker 2: a guy that loves to be in these forever wars,

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Speaker 2: and there was people that were really concerned with that

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Speaker 2: image of if that's who's in his ear. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to get bogged down in Venezuela. I don't want

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Speaker 2: our men and women to be there and the loss

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Speaker 2: of life to mount and grow because we decide to

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Speaker 2: take over a country indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that voted for Trump.

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Speaker 2: They believe that's what he was never going to do,

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Speaker 2: and now they're like, well, hold on, we're here, We're

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Speaker 2: going to take it over. There is a lot of concerns,

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Speaker 2: So let's dive into that and talk about what this

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Speaker 2: looks like next in Venezuela. What is responsibility? What responsibility

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Speaker 2: do we have to do it the right way? But

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Speaker 2: also to not just sit there indefinitely.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, first of all, let me be clear, we

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Speaker 3: are not at war with Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: This is not a forever war. It's not even a war.

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Speaker 3: This was a military operation to execute an arrest warrant.

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Speaker 3: It was the military supporting the FBI and arresting indicted

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Speaker 3: narco terrorists, and it took a couple of hours and

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Speaker 3: was over. They went in, they got them, and they left.

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Speaker 3: That was the conclusion of the military conflict.

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Speaker 4: It's not a war.

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Speaker 3: It's not, as I said, it's not a forever war.

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Speaker 3: It was not even a five hour war. It was

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Speaker 3: about a two hour war. And I wouldn't even call

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Speaker 3: it a war. It was when you go and arrest someone,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was an arrest, with the military supporting

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Speaker 3: and protecting the law enforcement officers carrying out the arrest.

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Speaker 3: What happens next. So the day after Maduro was arrested,

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Speaker 3: Delci Rodriguez, who was the vice president, was sworn in

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Speaker 3: as the interim president. Now, listen, no American should be

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Speaker 3: happy with Delci Rodriguez as the president of Venezuela for

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Speaker 3: Delci Rodriguez a communist, Yes, she was the vice president.

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Speaker 3: She hates America. Let me give you some of her background.

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Speaker 3: She was the vice president. Before that, she was the

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Speaker 3: oil minister, and she was she is a lawyer, to

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Speaker 3: You know who swore in. Here's that her brother, Jorge Rodriguez,

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Speaker 4: And let me give you her background. She was born

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Speaker 3: She is the daughter of a Marxist gorilla leader named

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Speaker 3: Her dad was arrested in connection with the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 3: in police custody, and one source said the following that

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Speaker 3: and in fact, the source continued, the Gorilla Marxist element

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Speaker 4: She is She was sanctioned.

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Speaker 3: By the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Asset Control because

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Speaker 3: And they put the bags through the X ray and

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm from Venezuela. This is normal. This is how

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Speaker 1: we operate there. I'm the vice president. Right, that's some

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Speaker 3: Look, she is a communist leader and she is not

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Speaker 3: right now, it appears she's cooperating with the Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it made an impression seeing Delta for show

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she could be next.

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Speaker 3: She's cooperating right now. We'll see if she continues to cooperate.

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Speaker 3: By the way, there are multiple reports of violence on

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Speaker 3: other leaders in the government. There is some instability. But

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what needs to happen. No one should

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Speaker 3: be happy. Number one, what you said is exactly right.

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Speaker 3: We do not want to see an American occupation, We

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Speaker 3: and we don't want to see this America hating communists, essentially,

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Speaker 3: the Madua regime continuing. What should happen is free and

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Speaker 3: fair elections. And free and fair elections. Look the last

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Speaker 3: election we talked about in the last podcast that Madua

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Speaker 3: was arrested because he's an arco trafficker, but he was

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Speaker 3: he lost decisively to the opposition party, and yet he

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Speaker 3: and Venezuela were to return to being a friend.

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Speaker 4: Particularly. Look, one of the big things.

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Speaker 3: They've got the largest proven oil reserves of any country

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Speaker 2: And it really is amazing that if you think about

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Speaker 2: this would be one of the easiest is I was

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Speaker 2: described today by a banker and he was he was

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Speaker 2: just trying to put in perspective. He's like, when other

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Speaker 2: minimum of a total collapse in their economy. He said,

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Speaker 2: if you ask me right now, what country would I

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Speaker 1: He was like, Venezuela is like one.

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Speaker 2: Of the easiest ones in the whole world to do

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Speaker 2: get their economy up and roaring, and the people could

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Speaker 1: By the way, Venezuela people forget that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Remember in nineteen fifty Venezuela had the fourth highest GDP

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Speaker 3: That's what these communists screwed up.

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Speaker 4: And listen.

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Speaker 3: President Trump has focused a great deal on trying to

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Speaker 3: now to produce the oil. And even though they have

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Speaker 4: It's good the.

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Speaker 3: Corruption of the communism. They're not producing what they could,

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Speaker 3: And a big question that if you're let's say you're

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Speaker 3: so I will say, you know, there's some folks you're

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Speaker 3: seeing people are saying, well, no, no, no, this was not

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Speaker 3: I very much hope will be regime change at the

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Speaker 3: ballot box, which is a very different thing. That it

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Speaker 3: want these corrupt Marxist Narco traffickers. We want a leader

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Speaker 3: back to prosperity. And if you want prosperity in Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,

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Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast

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Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back.

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Speaker 2: Can we go back to Chuck Schumer and just that

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Speaker 2: I think it was twenty twenty when he had something

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Speaker 2: very interesting to say. Can we play that for everybody

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Speaker 2: real quick? Yep, all right, take a listen. This is

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer back in twenty twenty. Listen carefully to the

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Speaker 5: He brags about all these things he wants to do

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Speaker 5: or is doing, but his actions belie his words. Maybe

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Speaker 5: the best metaphor was his claim to bring democracy to Venezuela.

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Speaker 5: There was a big policy there.

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Speaker 1: It flopped.

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Speaker 5: If the policy was working, Juan Guido wouldn't be in

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Speaker 2: All right, And finally, I know I'm going to laugh

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Speaker 2: CENTAER i want to go back to just the rhetoric,

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Speaker 2: Mission when he said, that and it went, Viral I'm,

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Speaker 2: mike let me get this. Straight you have a governor

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Speaker 2: who is in a crisis. Situation i'm talking about The

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Speaker 2: christs on the, ground whose job is to back law,

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Speaker 2: enforcement and his job is also to ratchet down the

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Speaker 2: rhetoric so we don't have a civil war. Breakout and he's,

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Speaker 2: like maybe this is an opportunity for a civil. War

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Speaker 2: he's saying That minnesota is at war with The United

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Speaker 2: states federal.

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Speaker 1: Government the governor just said.

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Speaker 3: That, yeah and, listen if you're an angry left wing,

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Speaker 3: radical you already Hate, ice you already Hate Donald, trump

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Speaker 3: and then you hear the Elected democrat governor Say minnesota

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Speaker 3: is at war with the federal.

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Speaker 4: Government that is a call to.

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Speaker 3: Violence that is a call in, war people get, killed

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Speaker 3: people get. Injured that Is democrats very deliberately calling to.

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Speaker 3: Violence it is not we disagree over us see with

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Speaker 3: the federal. Government it is we're we're at. War AND

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Speaker 3: i think a huge part of this is a cya

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Speaker 3: instinct because the fraud is so. Bad AND i want

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Speaker 3: you to. Listen The House representatives had a hearing on

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Speaker 3: the fraud In. Minnesota by the, Way i'm going to

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Speaker 3: be charing a hearing on the same topic in just

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Speaker 3: a couple of, weeks so we'll cover that In verdict

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Speaker 3: when that. Happens BUT i want you to listen To Brandon.

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Speaker 3: Gil Brandon gil is a good. Friend he is a

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Speaker 3: congressman From. Texas he's he's cross examining, this this left

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Speaker 3: wing witness From. MINNESOTA i want you to listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Exchange it's really.

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Speaker 7: Powerful thank you for being. Here ask, you does large

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Speaker 7: Scale somali immigration Make minnesota stronger or?

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Speaker 6: Weaker certainly, stronger certainly.

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Speaker 7: Stronger do you know what percentage Of somali headed households

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Speaker 7: In minnesota are on food stamps now fifty four. Percent

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Speaker 7: do you know what that number is For Native minnesota headed. Households,

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Speaker 7: well to be, clear a majority of this seven it's seven.

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Speaker 7: Percent there's a big difference between fifty four percent seven?

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Speaker 7: Percent is there?

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Speaker 1: Not use?

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Speaker 6: ME i COULD i answer the?

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Speaker 7: Question let me let me move. On we've got a

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Speaker 7: lot of questions. Here what percentage Of somali headed households

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Speaker 7: In minnesota are On? MEDICAID i don't. Know it's seventy three.

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Speaker 7: Percent do you know what that number is For minnesota

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Speaker 7: native households.

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Speaker 6: Again you're using the Phrase minnesota native households the.

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Speaker 7: Number the number is eighteen. Percent that's a quite an astounding.

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Speaker 7: DIFFERENCE i think we Would CAN i answer the?

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Speaker 6: Question?

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Speaker 7: Please let me ask you one more and then we

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Speaker 7: can go onto. That what percentage Of somali headed households

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Speaker 7: are on welfare in? GENERAL i don't. Know it's eighty one.

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Speaker 7: Percent what about let me just ask, you after ten

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Speaker 7: years of being in The United, states what percentage Of

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Speaker 7: somali immigrant households are on continue to be on?

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Speaker 6: WELFARE i don't.

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Speaker 7: Know the number is seventy eight. Percent so even after

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Speaker 7: ten years seventy eight percent Of somali immigrant households continue

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Speaker 7: to be on. Welfare do you know what that number

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Speaker 7: is for Native minnesota headed. Households, again you're using Non

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Speaker 7: somali immigrant immigrant headed. Households IF i can just answer the,

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Speaker 7: question you're using the phrase Native. Minnesotans the majority Of

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Speaker 7: Somali minnesotans are As minnesota as any of.

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Speaker 6: Us they were born in The United. States it's only

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Speaker 6: eight thousand of the one hundred and eight thousands in the.

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Speaker 7: Never, nevertheless the welfare usage is astoundingly. Different let me

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Speaker 7: ask you, again does that Make minnesota stronger or? Weaker?

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Speaker 6: Again i'd like the opportunity to answer the question. Here so,

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Speaker 6: again the majority Of Somali minnesotans are born in The United,

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Speaker 6: states AS i, Understand.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well what percentage of working Age somalians who have

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Speaker 7: been in THE us for ten years or? More ten

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Speaker 7: years or, more how many of them Speak english very?

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Speaker 7: WELL i don't know about. Half the answer is about.

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Speaker 7: Half that seems pretty, low doesn't.

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Speaker 2: IT i love just the facts, there center like the

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Speaker 2: way that he handled. That the reason why you're good

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Speaker 2: friends when the reason why we played it because he's

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Speaker 2: just laying out the reality of the situation on the

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Speaker 2: ground and how we got to a point where virtually

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Speaker 2: every government program In minnesota has been compromised by The

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Speaker 2: somali community in this way where they could grab money

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Speaker 2: and create fraud with.

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Speaker 3: It but by the Way brandon got, elected he had

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Speaker 3: a he had a rough, Primary he had a bunch

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Speaker 3: of primary, opponents he had millions of dollars spent against.

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Speaker 4: Him brandon is a.

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Speaker 3: Conservative, actually his father in law Is Danesh, desuzo who's

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Speaker 3: a good, friend and and and AND i Endorsed brandon,

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Speaker 3: early went and campaigned with, him and he overcame a

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Speaker 3: ton of money coming against. Him and and part of

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Speaker 3: WHAT i told the voters Of texas is, listen if

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Speaker 3: if y'all Elect, Brandon he's going to go and fight

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Speaker 3: for you and make you.

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Speaker 4: Proud he's doing, that you. KNOW i want to make

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Speaker 4: a point about the.

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Speaker 3: Back and, forth because that that That, Weasley minnesota lefty.

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Speaker 3: Witness he kept, saying, well the majority Of somalians are

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Speaker 3: are are born In. America now now, noted note What

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Speaker 3: Brandon gill was Asking somali immigrant headed, households and the guy, says,

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Speaker 3: well they have a bunch anchor. Babies in other, words

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Speaker 3: we bring Over somali. Immigrants, yeah they have tons of babies,

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Speaker 3: here and and because of birthright, citizen which is a

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Speaker 3: really foolish. Policy and my hope is that The Supreme

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Speaker 3: court will side With President trump and ending.

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Speaker 4: It but.

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Speaker 3: The somali immigrants come, here they have a lot of babies.

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Speaker 3: Here that guy's focusing on the, babies And brandon, saying all,

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Speaker 3: right how about the person who heads the household and

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Speaker 3: the person who heads the? Household are These somali immigrants

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Speaker 3: and you've got eighty one percent of them on. Welfare

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Speaker 3: AND i tell you the stat that was really powerful

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Speaker 3: was ten years later they've been here ten, years it's

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Speaker 3: seventy eight percent still on. Welfare this is a. Scam

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Speaker 3: The democrats did it, deliberately and they did it to buy.

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Speaker 3: Votes they were importing votes to vote For. Democrats they

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Speaker 3: allowed them to commit fraud to steal nine billion dollars

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Speaker 3: and then to bundle those votes for The, democrats to

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Speaker 3: bundle cash for The. Democrats and The democrats covered it.

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Speaker 3: Up and it's Why Tim, Waltzon Jacob fray and so

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Speaker 3: many Other democrats are trying to enrage the left about

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Speaker 3: this shooting With ice because as they want to cover

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Speaker 3: up from the incredible theft and fraud they're responsible.

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