Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: What is your name?
Speaker 3: My name's Jed.
Speaker 2: Jed. How can I get you today?
Speaker 3: Jed?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Well, it's been an interesting morning. But I had two
Speaker 3: new life experiences today and one of them is really
Speaker 3: cool and one of them not so much.
Speaker 2: Okay, what were they?
Speaker 3: Well? I got bit by a copperhead in the foot
Speaker 3: at work, which, as you'd imagine, was pretty intense. So
Speaker 3: you know, I cussed out the snake and cursed his name.
Speaker 3: My boss wrested me to the er, and they decided
Speaker 3: to put me on a helicopter all doped up, which
Speaker 3: is one of the coolest experiences ever, by the way,
Speaker 3: So it was almost worth it in a way getting bit,
Speaker 3: because when else when I was I ever going to
Speaker 3: be able to get on a helicopter you know.
Speaker 2: Brouh, You know you can just get high.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know I could, but that's not
Speaker 3: what I mean, that's not my aim. It was just
Speaker 3: a cool like cherry on top, like you know, like
Speaker 3: a little treat.
Speaker 2: A little treat, I guess. Yeah, you don't have to
Speaker 2: get bit by a snake to get high. I mean,
Speaker 2: the helicopter ride is probably uh you know, that's a
Speaker 2: whole that's an excursion.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well you see, the thing is kind of
Speaker 3: like a loophole. So I was just going to get high.
Speaker 3: People people would judge me. But like if you get
Speaker 3: bit by a snake and then say, you know, you
Speaker 3: got a bunch of shots and morphine, people are like,
Speaker 3: oh cool, that was awesome. You know, they can't judge.
Speaker 1: You for that.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. If you're if
Speaker 2: you're facing an injury or something like that and you
Speaker 2: just get really high, you're actually you're a hero.
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, And they're like, ooh, I bet you felt good.
Speaker 3: But if I just go get high and then you know,
Speaker 3: they're like you piece of ship.
Speaker 2: All right, Where do you work that you're hanging out
Speaker 2: with snakes?
Speaker 3: Well, so I live in the woods, like in the holler, uh,
Speaker 3: on my boss's property. I'm mostly a full time musician,
Speaker 3: but I do some like constructions and stuff on the side,
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, I'm usually I'm usually really vigilant. That's
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time in the woods grown up,
Speaker 3: and I know what you look for. And surprisingly enough,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen one on the property this year, So
Speaker 3: I guess I'll let my guard down. For one second,
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, I felt what felt like a really
Speaker 3: gnarly beasting and saw that little fucker slithering away, and
Speaker 3: uh yeah, it was game time after that.
Speaker 2: Where are you? Where's that beeping noise that I'm hearing?
Speaker 3: That is my either my heart monitor or boodpression monitor,
Speaker 3: one of the two. Sorry about that? Are you annoying
Speaker 3: me too? Yes, that's what I'm saying. I got wife
Speaker 3: flighting or whatever they call it.
Speaker 2: What so, how how did you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, oh yeah, I guess no, yeah, you said
Speaker 2: the whole thing about the fucking helicopter. Sorry, I just
Speaker 2: my brain operates as if it's always coursing with snake venom.
Speaker 3: I like your brain.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks man, I'm gonna take that. Uh positively, definitely.
Speaker 2: So how long are you in the hospital for? How
Speaker 2: long do you have to sit there for?
Speaker 3: I don't know. They don't know yet. I could be
Speaker 3: released tonight, or they might keep me overnight to monitor me.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think I was gonna have to stay.
Speaker 3: I was actually like kind of annoyed when they're like, well,
Speaker 3: we're gonna, we're gonna keep you here a while. But
Speaker 3: then I heard, you know, heard about the helicopter, and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, bet let's go.
Speaker 2: Were you So when people get airlifted to a hospital
Speaker 2: and a helicopter, I've always noticed that, tell me if
Speaker 2: this is what happens. But like the people like typically
Speaker 2: you're being dangled from the helicopter. Is that how it worked?
Speaker 3: Oh? I wish man, that would have been fun. They
Speaker 3: didn't have to like pull me out of the woods
Speaker 3: or nothing. I was able to live. I live in
Speaker 3: the Ozarks, you know, very mountainous, beautiful region, and so
Speaker 3: the nearest town is probably like, I don't know, twenty
Speaker 3: minutes away, and it's a small, a small, little emergency room.
Speaker 3: That figure did have everything I needed, you know. So
Speaker 3: I went there and apparently it didn't feel comfortable to
Speaker 3: me there with the stuff they had, so they called
Speaker 3: helicolter and I just got put it on a stretcher.
Speaker 3: But it was really cool, man. They put like the
Speaker 3: headphones with the microphone on it, you know. So I'm
Speaker 3: sitting there all all buzzed like looking at myself and
Speaker 3: I just want to see what that look like. So
Speaker 3: I turned on my phone and it just looks really official,
Speaker 3: you know. I think, I think I looked good at
Speaker 3: a pilot.
Speaker 2: You know, that's cool. I used to back when I
Speaker 2: did stand up, I tried to make this bit work
Speaker 2: where it was like use because they okay, so they
Speaker 2: do that right where they dangle people from the helicopter,
Speaker 2: and uh, I was always like, why don't you just
Speaker 2: why do you just let him in? Why do they
Speaker 2: do that? Just put him in the fucking helicopter? You know.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the that's the last place. That's
Speaker 2: the last place I would want to be if I
Speaker 2: was injured, is dangling from a helicopter, right, Like, sorry.
Speaker 3: About your broken back, but you're about to go in
Speaker 3: the ride of your fucking life. Man. Yeah, can they
Speaker 3: at least like winch them up? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: There has to be a better system. Those are the
Speaker 3: clips of people of the helicopters doing that with like
Speaker 3: big animals like elephants and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, I have to that. Yeah the elephant,
Speaker 2: I get the elephant. They can't get him in.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's understanding.
Speaker 2: That must be bro, that must be crazy for the elephant.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's that's fucking I don't know the first
Speaker 3: time I ever saw that, I was just like, huh,
Speaker 3: Like this is like, what is the point of this?
Speaker 3: They didn't look injured, you know, It's just like it's
Speaker 3: like one of those things some dude woke up in
Speaker 3: the morning. He's like, I have an idea. Boys, let's go.
Speaker 3: We're gonna wrangle lesson elephant.
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm when when do you get discharged? Do
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 3: I don't know yet. Let's see, I started this adventure
Speaker 3: about one so and the swelling is still going up.
Speaker 3: So they're just kind of I'm just kind of chilling
Speaker 3: until they know more. But my friend just dropped me
Speaker 3: off like a shitload of fried rise, so I'm like
Speaker 3: sneakily eating it because I'm because I'm not supposed to
Speaker 3: be eating.
Speaker 2: Don't tell well, hold on, why are you not supposed
Speaker 2: to be eating?
Speaker 3: Talk about them? They don't tell me anything, just tell
Speaker 3: me what to do.
Speaker 2: I feel like, if the doctor tells you hold on,
Speaker 2: I feel like, pro if the doctor tells you you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to be eating, don't fucking eat? What are you doing?
Speaker 3: Well? They say they aren't, they aren't sure yet, and
Speaker 3: I haven't. I'm not taking the end of venom and
Speaker 3: I haven't, you know, there's like I only took freaking
Speaker 3: painkillers and commit a drill, Like, I'm pretty sure I
Speaker 3: can eat on painkillers.
Speaker 2: Drill the doctor said. If the doctor says you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to eat, don't eat.
Speaker 3: They said they weren't sure. They didn't do it, yes
Speaker 3: or no. Yeah, so they didn't definitely say it, don't.
Speaker 3: They said, well, we're still figuring stuff out. So I
Speaker 3: feel like if it was that pertinent, they would have
Speaker 3: been like, yeah, no, don't not like not make it
Speaker 3: kind of vague, because if you even vague, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do what I want to do. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, whatever do you do, I.
Speaker 3: Need to do it. Die copperheads, don't.
Speaker 2: Feel I see where you're I see what your I
Speaker 2: see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: If they don't put that on me, don't put that
Speaker 3: on me?
Speaker 2: What do you what do you?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Don't put it on you? It's on you, Yes, it is,
Speaker 2: it is on you. It is propectively on you. No,
Speaker 2: if you die, here's I I will. I'll say this though.
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from. That if it was
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, if you yes, if it was
Speaker 2: dire enough that if you ate you were going to die. Yes,
Speaker 2: probably they would be like, don't do it until we
Speaker 2: find out. But that's what they fucking said. What I
Speaker 2: don't care? I mean, I care a little bit, but
Speaker 2: I I care well, actually no, I care as much
Speaker 2: as you do, which seems to.
Speaker 3: Be very very I just, uh, you know, I feel
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be okay. And if say, if I die,
Speaker 3: I'll die happy eating fried rice. I mean, I'm cool
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: What's what's your name, Jed?
Speaker 3: Jed?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: What do you see? Your musician? What do you what
Speaker 2: do you do? The little thing where you play a
Speaker 2: flute and the snakes, uh rise from a from a basket?
Speaker 2: Is that what the kind of music you make? Is
Speaker 2: that what we're hanging out with? Snakes?
Speaker 3: I'm actually concerned that like that will be like some
Speaker 3: weird superpower I gain after this, But I'll cross that
Speaker 3: bridge when it comes.
Speaker 2: Okay. Is that real? What is that? What is that called?
Speaker 2: That's a real art thing people do? Oh? Snake charming,
Speaker 2: snake charming in that wild that some.
Speaker 3: Dude along the line was like, hey, I got this flute.
Speaker 3: I wonder what the Snake's gonna think, like, who comes
Speaker 3: up with that?
Speaker 2: How old are you? Jed?
Speaker 3: I'm thirty four? Man, Holy shit, I thought.
Speaker 2: You were in nineteen bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sound like a young man and got like
Speaker 3: I'm still kind of childish. I'm like, you know, I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm very uh, I've been through last shit,
Speaker 3: I'm very emotionally mature, but I still like to just like,
Speaker 3: you know, I do fun stuff steel like skip rocks,
Speaker 3: watch cartoons. You know. I'm trying to hold onto that
Speaker 3: that childlike wonder as long as possible, because you got to.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, thirty four years up? Thirty four is
Speaker 2: it's too old to be named Jed? I think.
Speaker 3: WHI should I change it to? It's I feel like
Speaker 3: thirty five is probably a good cutoff, but I yeah,
Speaker 3: thirty four is cutting close?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty Yeah, thirty four is is? No. I think
Speaker 2: the cutoff for Jed is like twenty seven. I think
Speaker 2: thirty Maybe you could change it to something adult like David,
Speaker 2: maybe Adam Timothy. That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I made though, Lyle is you know, you're
Speaker 3: kind of too young to be named Lyle too, you know,
Speaker 3: Le seems like an old man's name. I hate him,
Speaker 3: but if we're pointing out each other's names, you know,
Speaker 3: I just I just figured i'd throw that out there.
Speaker 2: What's the what's next for you in your life after
Speaker 2: the snake bite?
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I have to miss. I had a really
Speaker 3: good paying gig tonight. I have to miss, which sucks.
Speaker 3: So I think I'm just gonna like chilling beds for
Speaker 3: a few days, play some guitar, eat ice cream and snacks,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like cuddle over my dog and
Speaker 3: shit man, which is kind of cool because I mean,
Speaker 3: it sucks on one side, I can need money. On
Speaker 3: the other, like I never get like two days to
Speaker 3: do nothing, you know what I mean. Like, so in
Speaker 3: a way, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: What kind of what kind of music do you play?
Speaker 3: Uh? So I'm in one band. I'm a drummer, and
Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna plug it, just throwing it out
Speaker 3: there because I like to have my own little face
Speaker 3: and corner in privacy, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 3: so I'm a drummer for one band for a singer songwriter.
Speaker 3: But it's not like your typical singer songwriter stuff. It's
Speaker 3: very very funky and uh, these words are so good man. Like, Uh,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty picky when it comes to music. You know.
Speaker 3: I've been playing some sort of music and involved in
Speaker 3: a lot of music teams for a long time. And
Speaker 3: I really believe in the Stude's music. It's something special
Speaker 3: and I just so happen to be a part of it,
Speaker 3: which is really awesome. I'm also I'm also a guitar player,
Speaker 3: you know. Uh. I used to do a lot of
Speaker 3: traveling and it's like busting to get to the next
Speaker 3: town and stuff, just to adventure, you know, And it's
Speaker 3: always been a passionate mine. I love it. But I
Speaker 3: never you ever thought. I never thought I would, like,
Speaker 3: if you ask me five years ago, if I'd be
Speaker 3: pretty much making a living playing music, I would last
Speaker 3: like that don't doesn't happen, you know, like I might.
Speaker 3: You know, my assumption, I'd not be able to buy
Speaker 3: some beers it sometimes and whatever, get some snacks. But
Speaker 3: I'm actually paying bill saving money. I'm getting all these
Speaker 3: really really cool opportunities, and I don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I never I never thought I would get there. That
Speaker 3: was just this is.
Speaker 2: Your this is your full time, this is your full
Speaker 2: time gig.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more or less. Yeah, sometimes it's slower than others.
Speaker 3: But I mean there's some weeks I play four or
Speaker 3: five shows a week, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean cool, very cool, very cool, very cool, very cool, interesting, interesting, interesting,
Speaker 2: hmmm hm, oh what else do I want to know
Speaker 2: about you?
Speaker 3: It's really cool to be talking to you, by the way.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it's quite cool talk. It's cool talking to
Speaker 2: you too. I feel like i'm sometimes this podcast. I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm transformed. I'm like, uh uh, traveling around
Speaker 2: to people's rooms and it's like, I'm just let's see
Speaker 2: what's going on with this guy who just got bitten
Speaker 2: by a snake at the hospital.
Speaker 3: I've been listening to you. Sorry, sorry, I've been listening
Speaker 3: to you for a good while man, And like you know,
Speaker 3: I thought about calling in, but it was like, the
Speaker 3: only things that maybe you want to talk about are
Speaker 3: super depressing and fuck that ship. So it's happened to
Speaker 3: me today. And after my last little shot of painkillers
Speaker 3: and I saw that you'd come on, I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I'm calling. I'm calling, yes, just gotta know about the
Speaker 3: snake bite, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna take some questions from the chat. And
Speaker 2: then and then I'm gonna let you rest because you'll
Speaker 2: be dead soon because you had too much fried rice.
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Well, I have a question. Where's the
Speaker 2: fry what what's in the fried rice? Is there egg
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 3: There's egg? His chicken and I got extra beds. He
Speaker 3: got that light roll.
Speaker 2: That's cool. People want to know what kind of snake
Speaker 2: you got bitten by. I think you said it was
Speaker 2: a copperhead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a younger copperhead, which is why I
Speaker 3: think they were so nervous. I wasn't so nervous, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a younger one, probably like two foot long,
Speaker 3: not quite two foot in, like three quarters of an
Speaker 3: inch diameterter.
Speaker 2: Someone wants to know what your favorite kind of snake is.
Speaker 3: I like the ball pythons. They're just so chilled. And
Speaker 3: I had this. There was this moment in time I
Speaker 3: was like looking at one of one of my friends
Speaker 3: and he like kind of yawned and smiled, and I
Speaker 3: was like, holy shit, snake's yon. That's the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 3: From that moment on, I just really liked him.
Speaker 2: Oh I've never seen a snake yawn before. That sounds cool.
Speaker 3: It was super cool, man. It was all very like,
Speaker 3: it's very cartoony, you know, and he kind of like
Speaker 3: like snacked his lips afterwards.
Speaker 2: It was very Someone wants to know, are you worried
Speaker 2: about the bill for the helicopter ride?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You have to pay for that.
Speaker 3: Ship, right, I mean I don't have to. I'm not
Speaker 3: worried about the bill. I'm not gonna pay it, but
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 2: Wait, what do you mean? You know? Don't they like
Speaker 2: fuck it? Don't they go after you?
Speaker 3: I mean they can try, but I mean there's no
Speaker 3: such thing as debtor. It's prison anymore. What are they
Speaker 3: gonna do that attack? Money already destroyed credit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's true. I was talking to I
Speaker 2: was talking to It's funny, I was. I was talking
Speaker 2: to a friend about this last night, and I was
Speaker 2: We were saying, there are two ways to be rich.
Speaker 2: One is to have a lot of money, and the
Speaker 2: other is to be in so much debt that it's
Speaker 2: not real.
Speaker 3: Right my thoughts exactly. So I had a similar not
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even buy a snake, but I like so
Speaker 3: the reason I fucked off worried about paying the bill
Speaker 3: is because, like, who was it about a decade ago.
Speaker 3: I had a really intense thing happened and you know,
Speaker 3: had to get surgery and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: And I got the bill and it was like it
Speaker 3: was laughable. I'm like, who's fucking afoid this? And you know,
Speaker 3: there's been a couple weird hospital situations. What I owe
Speaker 3: so much to hospitals that's not at a certain point,
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I no, I can't even concern myself
Speaker 3: with that. You guys, really when to come for me?
Speaker 3: I guess, but I don't have anything to give you.
Speaker 2: You know, someone wants to know. Are you mad at
Speaker 2: the snake?
Speaker 3: No, it's not the snake's vault. Like I usually walk
Speaker 3: around the property and I get rid of most around
Speaker 3: the property. If not, I leave alone. It was I'm
Speaker 3: usually really vigilant. I mean I did cut. Don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong. I fucking cussed the dass out, like really loudly.
Speaker 3: You call him a stupid, little slithery fuck. But I'm
Speaker 3: not mad at him. I'm more mad at myself. I'm
Speaker 3: not being as vigilant as I usually am.
Speaker 2: Oh, that probably really hurt his feelings. I know it
Speaker 2: was rude, but I mean, like, you know, you gotta
Speaker 2: tell me one time someone wants to know what you
Speaker 2: were wearing. And I don't think they meant that in
Speaker 2: a weird way. I think they just want to know.
Speaker 3: So typically I have my boots on when I'm walking
Speaker 3: around the property. But this morning was supposed to be
Speaker 3: like a very chill day. We were supposed to just
Speaker 3: like go down the road and get this back ho
Speaker 3: and I was gonna follow boss Man back in his car,
Speaker 3: you know, easy psy. So I'm like, I'm gonna wear
Speaker 3: my tea list today, get my hiking sands on, you know.
Speaker 3: And it was one of those things. I was walking
Speaker 3: out the door looking at my boots like maybe I
Speaker 3: should put those on. I'm like, no, it'll be all right,
Speaker 3: and uh lo and behold it was not all right.
Speaker 2: Well, Jed, I hope you get better. I hope that
Speaker 2: the hot I hope I'm gonna give here's my manifestations
Speaker 2: for you that'll end this car with. I manifest that
Speaker 2: the collections agency that works for the hospital will forget
Speaker 2: about you. I manifest that the fried rice you just
Speaker 2: ate won't kill you, or if it does that, it'll
Speaker 2: do it fast. I manifest that you will heal from
Speaker 2: your snake bite and that you will get super cool
Speaker 2: powers that will allow you to talk to snakes. And
Speaker 2: I manifest that all the snakes I think you're cool.
Speaker 2: I assume that snakes, because that's the thing is, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a whole thing of like it would be cool
Speaker 2: to talk to animals. But what if the animals think
Speaker 2: that you're like a lame loser?
Speaker 3: Got that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, then it doesn't really matter if you can talk
Speaker 2: to them, but I think they'll probably think you're cool.
Speaker 2: Jet is anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: First of all, that was really thoughtful, all your manifestations.
Speaker 3: Wele thank you very much.
Speaker 1: You're the man.
Speaker 3: And I'll just leave you with a fun fact about
Speaker 3: copperheads if you didn't know, copperheads are one of the
Speaker 3: only snakes you actually make for life. And they'll meet
Speaker 3: up and go to their din the same place every year,
Speaker 3: which I find that interesting. And that's all I got.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling jed ah right, buddy, I love you.
Speaker 2: Say say what you will about gecko's but we don't bite,
Speaker 2: not that hard.
Speaker 5: All from alex Ornoys.
Speaker 2: These guys Hello, Hello, what is your name? Good sir,
Speaker 2: my name is Alex. Alex. I really I don't know
Speaker 2: why I'm saying this right off the bat, but you
Speaker 2: seem like like a wholesome guy.
Speaker 5: No way, Well, I really appreciate that. Actually, I just
Speaker 5: got off of wor. Yeah, you're a wholesome guy as well.
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't say that. I don't like when
Speaker 2: people say that about me. I don't think whole. I
Speaker 2: don't Wholesome is not a U. It's not really a compliment.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's like a it's a it's just
Speaker 2: like an adjective. I don't know if it's inherently bad
Speaker 2: or good.
Speaker 5: You know, Hm, I guess the way I perceive things
Speaker 5: with being autistic, I guess when somebody says I'm wholesome,
Speaker 5: I don't know, it just seems like I guess I
Speaker 5: took it as a compliment, but I appreciate it. I
Speaker 5: can't believe.
Speaker 2: I'm not hold on, I'm not trying to I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to insult you. I'm just uh, not that of
Speaker 2: anything I'm saying is anything to do with you. This
Speaker 2: is this is just how my guess, my my brain works. No, wholeso.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like a whole wholesome. Like
Speaker 2: when I think about the word wholesome, it feels like, uh,
Speaker 2: something fake about it maybe, or something like cutesy, And
Speaker 2: I don't. I guess I'm not like uh uh, I
Speaker 2: guess I don't. It feels cutesy to me, and I
Speaker 2: guess I don't like being called cutesy. But I'm also
Speaker 2: sitting here in an in an adorable Gecko costume. So
Speaker 2: I bring any and all of these things completely on
Speaker 2: my own, I take I take responsibility for that. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we got off the rails way too fast here, mister Alex.
Speaker 2: Enough about me and my and my dumb whatever. What's
Speaker 2: going on with you?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Would you would I assume, I assume you came here
Speaker 2: for some reason. What would that reason be?
Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, and my reason for trying to call
Speaker 5: you so many times? And congratulations on streaming five days
Speaker 5: in a row. I got the live alert, and I
Speaker 5: was so excited. I just got off work. I wanted
Speaker 5: to talk to you about I felt sabotaged and caused
Speaker 5: myself to get fired from a really good corporate job
Speaker 5: back in March, and I've been trying to land back
Speaker 5: on my feet, but it's really hard. I guess I
Speaker 5: just don't really know how to feel about it because
Speaker 5: it was my fault. I don't think I'll ever get rehired.
Speaker 5: And now I'm in a way worse job, doing a
Speaker 5: lot more work and making a lot less money than
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a few I have a few questions.
Speaker 2: How old are you, Alex?
Speaker 5: I am twenty six?
Speaker 2: Okay, rock and roll me too? What well, tell me
Speaker 2: what did you do to get fired from this job?
Speaker 5: I was working from home and mental health crisis kind
Speaker 5: of ensued and I kind of started my work computer
Speaker 5: on fire.
Speaker 2: You started your work computer on fire?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Like had what? So you? What did you do to
Speaker 2: set your computer on fire?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 5: First I pour well, I tried to pour like some
Speaker 5: cleaner on it and then wouldn't ignite. Then I just
Speaker 5: used like an aerosol and just sprayed it with a
Speaker 5: lighter underneath it, and once that started catching and then
Speaker 5: it went and then I kind of had like a
Speaker 5: breakthrough after doing that. I was also incredibly intoxicated as well,
Speaker 5: which didn't help things. But and then you know, kind
Speaker 5: of watched it burn for a little while, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: what am I doing? Like the stupidest thing ever, you know,
Speaker 5: Like and I grabbed a fire extinguisher and I put
Speaker 5: it out, but obviously trying to get a replacement on
Speaker 5: that and didn't explain it very well. And yeah, my
Speaker 5: fault entirely. I take responsibility.
Speaker 2: Why did you set your computer on fire?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: And that's the question I've been trying to answer myself.
Speaker 5: I am in professional therapy. I've been going for about
Speaker 5: eight well over a year now, actually since I three
Speaker 5: months before I even lost this job, and I've been
Speaker 5: working with my therapist. I've been doing all these things
Speaker 5: and I don't know I was too drunk, and that
Speaker 5: part is blacked out, like I don't I don't know
Speaker 5: what what court snapped to cause me to take the
Speaker 5: actions that I did. I just I know it happened.
Speaker 5: And now I'm kind of in the clean up part.
Speaker 2: You said you referred to this as a mental health crisis.
Speaker 2: What did something like trigger you to like go like
Speaker 2: just like go go feral?
Speaker 5: Well, I know when I've because I've been trying to
Speaker 5: work through this and go back through my thoughts I
Speaker 5: from who I was talking to, I was talking with
Speaker 5: a family member that tends to be kind of toxic
Speaker 5: that had reached out to me, and I'd kind of
Speaker 5: been fighting with them, and I'm thinking that may have
Speaker 5: something to do with it, But I really I don't
Speaker 5: know what triggered it, because looking back, like this was
Speaker 5: the best job I ever had, and if I wouldn't
Speaker 5: have gotten fired, I would I'm even now, eight months later,
Speaker 5: I've contemplated reapplying, but there's no way they're going to
Speaker 5: hire me back, not after what I did.
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, that's a whole other aspect of this that
Speaker 2: I'm curious to get into, But for now, what'd your
Speaker 2: therapist say when you told them that you lit this
Speaker 2: computer on fire?
Speaker 5: They were pretty shocked. They kind of knew that I
Speaker 5: hated this job. I certainly I didn't speak highly of
Speaker 5: it in therapy. I kind of trashed the job, and
Speaker 5: I think it was more of an ego thing. I
Speaker 5: felt like I was almost better because I had this
Speaker 5: decent job, and you know, I think my ego got
Speaker 5: the best of me. But they basically they've worked through
Speaker 5: it with me. Kind of what happened more coping strategies,
Speaker 5: recognizing the thought patterns you know, and especially you know,
Speaker 5: just trying to be better and did not have this
Speaker 5: ever happen again.
Speaker 2: So you didn't like this job. Is it something where
Speaker 2: you hated this job so much that, uh, lighting the
Speaker 2: computer on fire was a symbol of your hatred?
Speaker 5: You know, I've thought about it. I don't think it
Speaker 5: was that. I mean, I greatly disliked the job, but
Speaker 5: it could have been worse. And now even looking back
Speaker 5: because of how bad you know, the economy is and
Speaker 5: trying to get a new job, I look back on
Speaker 5: it like, Hey, it wasn't even that bad at all.
Speaker 2: I think I just got it sol on for a second.
Speaker 2: I got I want to I'll get into what now
Speaker 2: in the future and all that stuff, But I guess
Speaker 2: I'm just curious why you did this? What did Have
Speaker 2: you done something like this before?
Speaker 5: Not with fire. I've gotten at that job previously. I
Speaker 5: had gotten upset and like punched monitors and broke them,
Speaker 5: but I've never started anything on.
Speaker 2: Fire as you're so, have you talked to your therapist
Speaker 2: about like like anger issues and whatnot?
Speaker 5: I have? And that leads kind of into a can
Speaker 5: of worms with the mental health and feeling stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, what they don't.
Speaker 5: They don't think I have anger issues. It's more me
Speaker 5: having an inability to recognize my thoughts and feelings when
Speaker 5: it comes to like some of the autism, like I can,
Speaker 5: but kind of understanding how it works in a way,
Speaker 5: recognizing how I feel. That's one of the reasons I've
Speaker 5: been in therapy so long, is trying to be healthier.
Speaker 5: I was in therapy even before any of this happened.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
Speaker 2: How long ago was this that you let this computer
Speaker 2: on fire? Said March eleventh, Yeah, March eleventh. Have you
Speaker 2: had any kind of bizarre like outbursts similar to that
Speaker 2: in these past few months?
Speaker 5: No, not in the past few months.
Speaker 2: How many times has something like this happened for you?
Speaker 5: Honestly, this outside of punching my monitors a few times,
Speaker 5: I think they replaced it like two or three times,
Speaker 5: and then lighting my computer on fire, I those were
Speaker 5: the only times. And then since then, after getting fired,
Speaker 5: you know, there was definitely some anger and resentment, and
Speaker 5: there was like one other incident after that, you know,
Speaker 5: where I kind of punched a wall, but it was
Speaker 5: nothing to the extent of like lighting something on fire.
Speaker 2: In your current state of mind and of being. Are
Speaker 2: you confident that something like this wouldn't happen again?
Speaker 5: I would say yes, Okay, and I say that because
Speaker 5: I have seriously considered reapplying.
Speaker 2: Okay, look you yeah you probably yeah, you probably not could,
Speaker 2: you probably not could get that job back. I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not getting there. I don't think you're getting that
Speaker 2: job back. But that's okay, all right, hold on, it's not.
Speaker 2: I'm not You're totally not getting that job back. But
Speaker 2: that is in no way, shape or form an indication
Speaker 2: that your life is ruined forever. But you're totally not
Speaker 2: getting that job back. Ok I know there's a whole
Speaker 2: aspect of this that where you're like, you seem like
Speaker 2: you're worried that everything is going to suck forever, and
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about that, but I just
Speaker 2: still am so fixated on I guess why you did
Speaker 2: this and if it's like and I'm not a real therapist,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a real therapist, but just as
Speaker 2: a human being talking to you right now, I am
Speaker 2: curious why you did this and if you're if it
Speaker 2: would happen again, because I'm less concerned because the job thing, Yes,
Speaker 2: it's important. But I guess my concern is, are just
Speaker 2: you as a human being stable? Do you feel stable?
Speaker 5: Yes, I feel extremely stable. I'm actually just starting to
Speaker 5: now land on my feet a little bit. I after
Speaker 5: getting fired from that job, I worked two other jobs,
Speaker 5: pretty short stints, one at a hardware store and then
Speaker 5: one at a hotel, both of which fired me after
Speaker 5: a few weeks, one saying I wasn't a good fit
Speaker 5: in the other one due to just some background issues.
Speaker 5: And there's a lot of challenges in me getting a job,
Speaker 5: so losing that good job has been a little difficult.
Speaker 5: Now I'm a painter. I've been doing that for a
Speaker 5: little over a month, and I actually really like it.
Speaker 5: It's my first blue collar job i've i've had. It's
Speaker 5: a really good physical exercise. Yeah, so it's starting to
Speaker 5: land on my feet. But I would like to think
Speaker 5: that I'm stable and you know, healthy. I meet with
Speaker 5: my therapist once a week. I have been very much
Speaker 5: enjoying your live streams because I get off right about
Speaker 5: the time that you've been going live these past few days.
Speaker 5: Life is good, you know.
Speaker 2: I hope you're doing it good, good, good. I'm glad
Speaker 2: to hear that life is good. Were you fire? Were you?
Speaker 2: You know, I've talk about this if you don't want to,
Speaker 2: but like, were you? Were you fired from those other
Speaker 2: jobs because of something similar to the thing whatever was
Speaker 2: that made you let your computer on fire? Or was
Speaker 2: these kind of this is a different thing.
Speaker 5: No, the one job I didn't pass the background, they
Speaker 5: let me work for two and a half weeks, you know,
Speaker 5: running the front desk of the hotel. But once the
Speaker 5: general manager came back from vacation, magically my background wasn't
Speaker 5: good enough, so they let me go. And then the
Speaker 5: other job, I was just quoted as not a good
Speaker 5: fit where I think it was just some of the
Speaker 5: interpersonal you know, with the autism and mental health, because
Speaker 5: going from working from home for three years to an
Speaker 5: in person job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you're you're a painter. How long you've
Speaker 2: been doing the paints.
Speaker 1: A little over a month?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: Okay? All right? So I mean let's talk about the uh,
Speaker 2: the dwelling you're feeling like you you I guess you've
Speaker 2: expressed regret that you don't have this corporate job anymore.
Speaker 2: You feel? Is that what you're feeling?
Speaker 5: It is?
Speaker 2: Tell me the more about this regret.
Speaker 5: I regret getting fired and the actions I took, and
Speaker 5: the fact that I that I'm not lying to you
Speaker 5: and not really knowing definitely what caused me to act
Speaker 5: the way I did. But yeah, it's sorry. Can you
Speaker 5: it just the thought just left my mind. Can you
Speaker 5: repeat what you had asked me?
Speaker 2: No, I just I just was just wanted you to
Speaker 2: go back to talking about like it's it seems as
Speaker 2: though you're I guess kind of yeah, you're in a
Speaker 2: yearning back for this job. But I but I think,
Speaker 2: uh sure, even if the job may have paid more money,
Speaker 2: the bottom level to me and I don't know, to me,
Speaker 2: the bottom line is that you're telling me. When you
Speaker 2: talked just now about being a painter, you talked about
Speaker 2: it in higher regard than the job that you claim
Speaker 2: you hated. Is that accurate?
Speaker 5: It is accurate, But the only reason it was at
Speaker 5: a bank. The previous job was at a bank, and
Speaker 5: I guess part of me just didn't sit well, you know,
Speaker 5: even if I was just taking new applications and stuff,
Speaker 5: a lot of people just didn't really understand the financial terms,
Speaker 5: and it was kind of predatory, you know, and getting
Speaker 5: people in debt. You know, and that's one of the
Speaker 5: reasons I had started therapy and was really disliking that job,
Speaker 5: is because, yeah, they paid really good money, but it
Speaker 5: was work from home. I was alone. I was more depressed.
Speaker 5: But now but now it was you know, I got
Speaker 5: fired and then had two jobs that I started and
Speaker 5: got quit and lost all the stability as well. So
Speaker 5: it's been kind of hard landing back on my feet.
Speaker 5: But I've been doing really good with this painting job.
Speaker 5: It's been about a month and a half.
Speaker 2: Now, are you enjoying the painting job more than the
Speaker 2: bank thing?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 5: Really, It's more satisfying, like being able to see your work,
Speaker 5: you know, paint a wall and you can see it
Speaker 5: in front of you. But you know, I took an
Speaker 5: eight dollars pay cut and I have a thirty minute
Speaker 5: commute now where I had no commute before, and I
Speaker 5: made a lot more money. But I think there's something
Speaker 5: to be said, you know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, but but before, First of all, I mean,
Speaker 2: satisfaction is I would call I would call that a
Speaker 2: form of enjoyments.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Second of all, you I mean you really see, I
Speaker 2: mean you hated that job so much that you lit
Speaker 2: your computer on fire. That's a sign that it was
Speaker 2: that's a sign that it wasn't a good fit for
Speaker 2: either party. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So if I mean, I don't know do I'm just
Speaker 2: from listening to you talk, it sounds like you are
Speaker 2: doing better in this in this painting gig, even if
Speaker 2: it's not as much money, honey, it sounds like you
Speaker 2: you hate it significantly less. Just from what you're telling me.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you if you believe that or not.
Speaker 5: I do, and actually, you know, being that one, excuse me,
Speaker 5: That's why I wanted to talk to you so bad,
Speaker 5: because it's like I feel like I know these things
Speaker 5: in my head and I try to talk to them
Speaker 5: with my therapist. But yeah, like you are absolutely right,
Speaker 5: there's something to be said about job satisfaction and yeah
Speaker 5: I do feel.
Speaker 2: Happy though, Okay, good, that's all that fucking matters? Dude.
Speaker 2: That's actually no, I don't think that's all that matters,
Speaker 2: but it I'm probably I don't actually think that's all
Speaker 2: that matters, but I'm probably wrong. Did that make any sense?
Speaker 2: I just expressed how I feel about life exactly perfectly correct,
Speaker 2: which is uh. I don't think that happiness is all
Speaker 2: that matters. But simultaneously I think I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: I think you're right. Sorry, that's I'm parked. I am parked.
Speaker 5: That's somebody next to me. I'm still in the parking
Speaker 5: lot at work.
Speaker 2: But so let me so so so here, let me
Speaker 2: let me just say this. First of all, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're happier. That's a good sign. Uh, that's probably all
Speaker 2: that matters.
Speaker 6: And uh, just if I could, I don't, if anything,
Speaker 6: just the worst thing I think you could do in
Speaker 6: this situation is to like dwell you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's just never helped. And I think, look at there's
Speaker 2: a different there's a difference, right, and it's maybe it's
Speaker 2: kind of like a bell curve of like dwelling versus
Speaker 2: you know, Hey, that didn't work out, probably because of
Speaker 2: these reasons. Let me use that to inform the future
Speaker 2: so that I may not make the same mistakes again.
Speaker 2: You know, that's health, it's positive versus Oh, I'm such
Speaker 2: a fucking idiot and I shouldn't have done that and
Speaker 2: now everything's ruined and blah blah blah blah blah. That's
Speaker 2: not helpful at all. You know, so if that is
Speaker 2: what you're doing. But I say this to someone who
Speaker 2: does that with a lot of things, and it's and
Speaker 2: I said that as somebody who's done that with a
Speaker 2: lot of things in his life and it ain't helped
Speaker 2: me a single bit. The dwelling it's a it's a
Speaker 2: giant a highway to fucking nowhere. So if you feel
Speaker 2: like there's things to learn from by an analyzing why
Speaker 2: you might have let your computer on fire, then learn
Speaker 2: from them and apply them to the future. But if
Speaker 2: you're just doing it to feel shitty about yourself and
Speaker 2: to adopt an unhelpful narrative into your brain that you
Speaker 2: suck and your life's gonna suck forever, I would recommend
Speaker 2: attempting not to do that, because again I've done that,
Speaker 2: and it's it's a it's a real pathway to nowhere.
Speaker 2: Does that all make sense?
Speaker 5: It does? And I really I can absolutely appreciate and share,
Speaker 5: you know what, in what you're sharing, because that is
Speaker 5: kind of how life works. And I've actually, you know,
Speaker 5: I've been working on shifting my perspective. If one thing
Speaker 5: has taught me getting fired from these two other jobs
Speaker 5: is you know, it's helped me with my social skills
Speaker 5: and want to improve and from there. You know, now,
Speaker 5: even with the painting gig, they kind of know I'm
Speaker 5: not going to leave because I've been here months and
Speaker 5: a half. You know, I'm not a new person that
Speaker 5: started for a week and left. So they're actually starting
Speaker 5: to teach me some stuff. So I'm actually starting to learn.
Speaker 5: And you know, I like the fact that, you know,
Speaker 5: I won't be automated AI with paint thing and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, So I do I share your per No,
Speaker 5: They'll they'll.
Speaker 2: No, they'll they'll they'll they'll find a way to do that.
Speaker 2: They'll make like a robot paint brush guy, and they'll
Speaker 2: give him like a face and whiskers and make it
Speaker 2: cute and call him Adam the cat paintbrush or something.
Speaker 2: You'll know, we're all gonna be We're all fucked, but uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we can enjoy the time we have until then.
Speaker 2: What's your name? Against sir?
Speaker 5: Name is Alex.
Speaker 2: Your name is Alex. I'm I was about to say,
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about you. I'm I'm ninety percent not
Speaker 2: worried about you. I think you'll be okay.
Speaker 5: Well, hey, I appreciate that, I really do, and.
Speaker 4: And if if it, if it, by the way, if
Speaker 4: it helps you, and at all, I think that I
Speaker 4: don't think lighting your computer on fire is a good idea,
Speaker 4: But I.
Speaker 2: Can image, I understand why you did it. From the
Speaker 2: perspective of I can imagine that doing that probably feels amazing.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine like your boss is saying something annoying
Speaker 2: to you on Slack, or you get an email that
Speaker 2: pisss you off, and you just light your computer on fire.
Speaker 2: That would be fucking awesome. I get. I get why
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I get why. I don't get like
Speaker 2: the mechanisms of what is going on in your brain
Speaker 2: that causes you to do that, I don't really understand. Maybe,
Speaker 2: but just from the point of view of I mean,
Speaker 2: who doesn't want to light their fucking work computer on fire?
Speaker 2: Point of view of of course, yeah, of course that
Speaker 2: sounds awesome. That sounds fantastic, ultimate power move.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't do it again, but or anything like that again, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I understand why you get that. I've always I've had
Speaker 2: plenty of times where I wanted to just take my
Speaker 2: computer and smash it on the fucking ground. Uh, but
Speaker 2: you know you can't. You can't do that, Alex. Is
Speaker 2: there anyth else you gonna say to the people of
Speaker 2: the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: I guess I would say, you know, I learned a
Speaker 5: valuable life lesson from this. I'm so happy I was
Speaker 5: able to get on your show, Lyle. You're amazing. I
Speaker 5: hope everybody has a great day.
Speaker 2: Hey, take care, Alex.
Speaker 5: Thanks Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean you guys, you've seen Office Space, right, It's
Speaker 2: like that scene where they smash the pro printer or
Speaker 2: the fax machine or whatever it is. I get why
Speaker 2: the guy did it. The guy I just know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't get why the guy. I don't know that.
Speaker 2: That's not what I meant. I don't understand specifically in
Speaker 2: this specific situation why this man lit his computer on fire.
Speaker 2: But I understand in a general sense why someone would
Speaker 2: because it seems like it'ld be really fun. But I
Speaker 2: don't endorse it. Maybe I don't know. Maybe I endorse it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't. I'm dorse the idea that
Speaker 2: it sounds fun. I'm gonna go do it right now.
Speaker 1: Hello, Gek, are you there?
Speaker 2: Yes? What is your name, sir? What is your name.
Speaker 2: What is your name?
Speaker 1: My name is Jake.
Speaker 2: Jake. I like that. I like that name. I like
Speaker 2: that name. What's going on, Jake? How can I get
Speaker 2: you today? What's happening?
Speaker 1: I'm going to see you in Atlanta in like a
Speaker 1: week or two.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, cool, very cool, very cool. Yes, I am playing.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plug real quick. I am playing The Earl
Speaker 2: in Atlanta on September twenty eighth. The early show was
Speaker 2: sold out. The late show. There's some tickets left. Are
Speaker 2: you going to the early one or the late one?
Speaker 1: The late one?
Speaker 2: Okay? Cool, I'm very excited. I like that venue a lot.
Speaker 2: Shout out. The Earl had a great time last year.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a good time this year.
Speaker 1: U well, I texted you as well, but I called
Speaker 1: him this time. I I like to explore abandoned buildings.
Speaker 1: That's like something I do pretty often.
Speaker 2: You like to explore abandoned buildings. Well, hopefully when you
Speaker 2: come to the Earl, it won't be abandoned. That was
Speaker 2: that was that was That was a joke I was
Speaker 2: trying to make about people, like if people don't come, sorry,
Speaker 2: what kind of abandoned? Like you? You? Oh, there's a
Speaker 2: word for this urban urban exploration. Yes, urbax urban exploration
Speaker 2: where I'm so, uh, do you have asbestos? That's my
Speaker 2: first question.
Speaker 1: I hope not. But there's a lot of abandoned buildings
Speaker 1: where I'm from. I've been to some schools. I've been
Speaker 1: to a peanut butter factory, which is like definitely my
Speaker 1: favorite one I've been to.
Speaker 2: Tell me about the peanut butter factory.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this place was. This is probably the
Speaker 1: largest building I've ever been in before that was abandoned
Speaker 1: and they had all the systems of distribution there. They
Speaker 1: had the packaging center, they had the offices, they had
Speaker 1: where they made the peanut butter, they had the storage.
Speaker 1: The place we walked into was initially the where they
Speaker 1: make the peanut butter and had these giant vats that
Speaker 1: we crawled on top of and we able to look
Speaker 1: into and they were all empty because the place was abandoned.
Speaker 1: But it was really cool. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people go there to steal like metal piping and stuff,
Speaker 1: but I me and my friends never did that. We
Speaker 1: all we just went there for fun and to take
Speaker 1: photos because one of my friends, the photographer.
Speaker 2: Uh where okay, I don't know. If you're breaking a code,
Speaker 2: you probably would be well, where is this peanut butter factory?
Speaker 1: I don't live there anymore, but it's in upstate New York.
Speaker 2: Okay. Now what Normally when I see like urban exploration stuff,
Speaker 2: it's like I see a lot of like malls and
Speaker 2: movie theaters and stuff like that. How do you even
Speaker 2: how do you even find out about these places?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Because you can't just they're not just around, right. You
Speaker 2: gotta kind of know where you're what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like two different ways. We found a lot
Speaker 1: of ours just by living in a shitty town where
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff was just run down. So
Speaker 1: we found this like really old school from like the
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties just by driving by it one day and
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, I think there's like a building
Speaker 1: behind them, like that tree line, and then we like
Speaker 1: parked our care we explored and we found like a
Speaker 1: little school there. But the other way people do it
Speaker 1: is like Google Maps. They go on Google Maps and
Speaker 1: they look for the tops of like destroyed houses. That's
Speaker 1: the other way of doing it. We found a factor
Speaker 1: that way, a textile mill doing it that way.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I actually used to do a lot of
Speaker 2: this in high school. That was like kind of our
Speaker 2: favorite thing to do in high school was to do uh.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it was called urbex until later,
Speaker 2: but uh yeah. We'd go into the woods and like
Speaker 2: find weird abandoned places. And there was this like abandoned
Speaker 2: mansion that my friends and I would just go into
Speaker 2: to smoke weed all the time. There was so much
Speaker 2: fun doing that. Yeah, I guess my. But looking back
Speaker 2: on it, though, is not to like be your fucking
Speaker 2: mom or whatever, but it is dangerous. It is dangerous.
Speaker 2: You could step in one direction and you fall through
Speaker 2: three floors and fucking just die, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is a dangerous thing to do. I'll be walking
Speaker 2: around like like I don't know if you ever walked
Speaker 2: into a non abandoned building, but when you do that,
Speaker 2: it's like there's all these people that were hired specifically
Speaker 2: to make sure that when you walk around this building
Speaker 2: you don't die. And when a building is abandoned, all
Speaker 2: those people whose jobs is to make sure that the
Speaker 2: people in this building don't randomly die, they don't do
Speaker 2: they're not doing that, So you're you're you're going in
Speaker 2: very raw to these buildings, So I guess I don't
Speaker 2: I don't recommend urbex necessarily on that, on that notion,
Speaker 2: just because you might like get fucked up, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: have you encountered a lot of danger doing this?
Speaker 1: Honestly? I think the thing I'm scared of most is
Speaker 1: just like finding like homeless people or something there. But
Speaker 1: I've only ever encountered that where I live now, not
Speaker 1: in Upstate New York, where I used to do it
Speaker 1: a lot. I only explored one abandoned building down here
Speaker 1: where I live now, and that's where I encountered a
Speaker 1: homeless person. Then I decided I don't want to do
Speaker 1: that anymore down here.
Speaker 2: Well, at that point, they're more of a squatter.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's just a lot of homeless people where
Speaker 1: I live, and they're all really scary.
Speaker 2: Why was it particularly scared? Why was it particularly scary
Speaker 2: this homeless person that you encountered?
Speaker 1: So this is my first time. It was like my
Speaker 1: first week when I moved here, and across from my
Speaker 1: apartment complex where I was staying for college, I saw
Speaker 1: an abandoned I want to say, it was like an
Speaker 1: abandoned senior center. Which is already a very creepy place
Speaker 1: to exist and be abandoned. But I went there with
Speaker 1: me and my friend I had just met, and we
Speaker 1: both brought girls there. And we're going through one of
Speaker 1: the side doors and we hear like scratching and all
Speaker 1: like freaking out, and we don't know what exactly is
Speaker 1: going on, and I just assume it's like a raccoon
Speaker 1: or something, because I've done this a lot, and it's
Speaker 1: always just like a raccoon or something. And there's like
Speaker 1: this creepy pinball machine or not a pinball, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: a slot machine in this like dark room, and I
Speaker 1: see like a person's head peek out from beside it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ah, we gotta get the fuck out
Speaker 1: of here. So then we like run across the street
Speaker 1: back to the apartment complex.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry to hear. I'm sorry to hear that
Speaker 2: that man's misery and plights in life have prevented you
Speaker 2: from getting laid. That's really, that's really tough.
Speaker 1: It is unfortunate. I feel like I was kind of
Speaker 1: invading his home, to be honest, So I feel bad,
Speaker 1: a little bad looking back on it now.
Speaker 2: Well a little bit. I mean, yeah, that would make
Speaker 2: me feel bad too if it was like, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean this guy is using this band in place
Speaker 2: for shelter, like that's all he has, and you go
Speaker 2: in there like, well there, I guess that. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: something kind of I guess sucked up where it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, this person is using this this is all
Speaker 2: they have, and you're just like, oh, this is a
Speaker 2: hobby to me to explore places like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's almost like demeaning to them. So I
Speaker 1: feel a little bit bad about that.
Speaker 2: Do you have other hobbies? But do you you know,
Speaker 2: do you play checkers? What do you do besides this?
Speaker 1: My hobbies include pretty much just going to the gym,
Speaker 1: and I go to college and work full time. Now
Speaker 1: that's why I have I pretty much no time to
Speaker 1: do anything but go to the gym and go to
Speaker 1: work and do my school work. How old are you,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty one?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, What are you hoping to continue urban explorating
Speaker 2: until in in your later years of life?
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm settled down now. I'm engaged, and
Speaker 1: I really don't think I have any more need for that.
Speaker 2: Yay, Jesus fucking Christ, who'd you get engaged to?
Speaker 1: Oh? My my manager. I used to work at Starbucks
Speaker 1: and I got engaged to my manager there I have. Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool. I guess that's cool. Are you How
Speaker 2: old is she?
Speaker 1: Twenty nine?
Speaker 2: Okay? All right? How long you guys been dating.
Speaker 1: About? We just hit our two year.
Speaker 2: Mark now, okay?
Speaker 1: Any other two years?
Speaker 2: It's cool. Love triumphs overall. Yeah, maybe maybe you could have.
Speaker 2: Maybe you could have your wedding in an abandoned building
Speaker 2: and everyone can get asbestos, get hurt, and then ever
Speaker 2: and then ever and then here's here's what you do.
Speaker 2: You get everyone in a building and you have your
Speaker 2: wedding there, and everyone gets ausbestos and gets hurt, and
Speaker 2: then as a wedding gift, they can, I guess, give
Speaker 2: you the money that they would win in in the
Speaker 2: in the lawsuit against the developer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be a good con. Could I could get
Speaker 1: behind that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think you'll be You'll probably you will
Speaker 2: probably be all right. Do you think you won't be
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: Or do you? Are?
Speaker 2: You pretty camp? You seem confident that you're gonna be okay,
Speaker 2: And that makes me confident that you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: I always think that my life can't get any worse
Speaker 1: than it is right now, which I know is not true.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, at the bare minimum, I'm okay
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: can sustain where I'm at right now. So that's that's
Speaker 1: how I feel. I feel like if I can sustain
Speaker 1: how I am, i'll be okay.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. Yes, some people are
Speaker 2: some people are on a never ending quest to do
Speaker 2: as amazingly as they possibly can. But I don't know
Speaker 2: how realistic that is. I think if you're I think
Speaker 2: if you're just like, look, I'm fine, And if I
Speaker 2: can keep being fine and definitely, then that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I don't need to be fucking you know, Steve Jobs
Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know what that means, but you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you find happiness in making progress,
Speaker 1: that's going to be a sustainable way to live, because
Speaker 1: you'll always be getting happier, but not because of you're
Speaker 1: achieving a new goal, but just because you enjoy progressing.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good way to try to
Speaker 1: live life.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you'll be fine. Nothing I don't think anything.
Speaker 2: I don't think, well, how long does asbestos take to incubate?
Speaker 1: I feel like I know by now.
Speaker 2: I feel like you would too, but I don't know. No, no, okay, well,
Speaker 2: is there any other aspect of this that you wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about before we go?
Speaker 1: No? I think we can cut it off here, gek.
Speaker 2: Okay, good luck. I don't I don't know why. I'm
Speaker 2: worried about you again a little bit.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's a little bit not worried and
Speaker 1: worried about me at the same time.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, I'm debating, but I mean you're you'll you'll
Speaker 2: be fine. Just it's like, just don't I just don't
Speaker 2: die and you'll be Okay. Don't go into any more
Speaker 2: of those buildings because you're gonna you're gonna step on
Speaker 2: a tile and it's gonna send you underwater or some
Speaker 2: crazy shit like that. Just don't don't do that. If
Speaker 2: anyone's listening to this and they're like and they go
Speaker 2: on TikTok and they're like, oh, it'd be cool to
Speaker 2: go into this abandoned chuck e cheese, You're gonna find
Speaker 2: a dead guy in there, and it's not gonna be
Speaker 2: fun and you just don't don't do it, don't go
Speaker 2: in there. I I it's my official stance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definally. My worst fear is just finding a
Speaker 1: dead body in one of those buildings. That would be horrible.
Speaker 2: All right, is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, GEK, I just know that when I look at
Speaker 1: the moon and you look at the moon, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you and you're looking at me. That makes me happy.
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you very much for calling, sir. But
Speaker 2: it goes on the line, calls every night, neverthe goes
Speaker 2: going to ride.
Speaker 3: He's teaching you how to be like but he's not
Speaker 3: really an expert.