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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: What is your name?

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Speaker 3: My name's Jed.

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Speaker 2: Jed. How can I get you today?

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Speaker 3: Jed?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's been an interesting morning. But I had two

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Speaker 3: new life experiences today and one of them is really

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Speaker 3: cool and one of them not so much.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what were they?

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Speaker 3: Well? I got bit by a copperhead in the foot

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Speaker 3: at work, which, as you'd imagine, was pretty intense. So

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Speaker 3: you know, I cussed out the snake and cursed his name.

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Speaker 3: My boss wrested me to the er, and they decided

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Speaker 3: to put me on a helicopter all doped up, which

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Speaker 3: is one of the coolest experiences ever, by the way,

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Speaker 3: So it was almost worth it in a way getting bit,

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Speaker 3: because when else when I was I ever going to

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Speaker 3: be able to get on a helicopter you know.

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Speaker 2: Brouh, You know you can just get high.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know I could, but that's not

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Speaker 3: what I mean, that's not my aim. It was just

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Speaker 3: a cool like cherry on top, like you know, like

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Speaker 3: a little treat.

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Speaker 2: A little treat, I guess. Yeah, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: get bit by a snake to get high. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the helicopter ride is probably uh you know, that's a

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Speaker 2: whole that's an excursion.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, well you see, the thing is kind of

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Speaker 3: like a loophole. So I was just going to get high.

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Speaker 3: People people would judge me. But like if you get

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Speaker 3: bit by a snake and then say, you know, you

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Speaker 3: got a bunch of shots and morphine, people are like,

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Speaker 3: oh cool, that was awesome. You know, they can't judge.

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Speaker 1: You for that.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. If you're if

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Speaker 2: you're facing an injury or something like that and you

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Speaker 2: just get really high, you're actually you're a hero.

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Speaker 3: Actually yeah, And they're like, ooh, I bet you felt good.

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Speaker 3: But if I just go get high and then you know,

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Speaker 3: they're like you piece of ship.

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Speaker 2: All right, Where do you work that you're hanging out

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Speaker 2: with snakes?

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Speaker 3: Well, so I live in the woods, like in the holler, uh,

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Speaker 3: on my boss's property. I'm mostly a full time musician,

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Speaker 3: but I do some like constructions and stuff on the side,

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Speaker 3: and uh yeah, I'm usually I'm usually really vigilant. That's

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Speaker 3: spend a lot of time in the woods grown up,

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Speaker 3: and I know what you look for. And surprisingly enough,

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen one on the property this year, So

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Speaker 3: I guess I'll let my guard down. For one second,

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Speaker 3: and uh yeah, I felt what felt like a really

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Speaker 3: gnarly beasting and saw that little fucker slithering away, and

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Speaker 3: uh yeah, it was game time after that.

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Speaker 2: Where are you? Where's that beeping noise that I'm hearing?

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Speaker 3: That is my either my heart monitor or boodpression monitor,

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Speaker 3: one of the two. Sorry about that? Are you annoying

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Speaker 3: me too? Yes, that's what I'm saying. I got wife

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Speaker 3: flighting or whatever they call it.

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Speaker 2: What so, how how did you?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, oh yeah, I guess no, yeah, you said

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Speaker 2: the whole thing about the fucking helicopter. Sorry, I just

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Speaker 2: my brain operates as if it's always coursing with snake venom.

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Speaker 3: I like your brain.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks man, I'm gonna take that. Uh positively, definitely.

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Speaker 2: So how long are you in the hospital for? How

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Speaker 2: long do you have to sit there for?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. They don't know yet. I could be

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Speaker 3: released tonight, or they might keep me overnight to monitor me.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even think I was gonna have to stay.

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Speaker 3: I was actually like kind of annoyed when they're like, well,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna, we're gonna keep you here a while. But

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Speaker 3: then I heard, you know, heard about the helicopter, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, bet let's go.

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Speaker 2: Were you So when people get airlifted to a hospital

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Speaker 2: and a helicopter, I've always noticed that, tell me if

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Speaker 2: this is what happens. But like the people like typically

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Speaker 2: you're being dangled from the helicopter. Is that how it worked?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I wish man, that would have been fun. They

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Speaker 3: or nothing. I was able to live. I live in

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Speaker 3: the Ozarks, you know, very mountainous, beautiful region, and so

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Speaker 3: the nearest town is probably like, I don't know, twenty

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Speaker 3: That figure did have everything I needed, you know. So

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Speaker 3: But it was really cool, man. They put like the

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Speaker 3: headphones with the microphone on it, you know. So I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting there all all buzzed like looking at myself and

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Speaker 3: I just want to see what that look like. So

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Speaker 3: I turned on my phone and it just looks really official,

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Speaker 3: you know. I think, I think I looked good at

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Speaker 3: a pilot.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's cool. I used to back when I

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Speaker 2: did stand up, I tried to make this bit work

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Speaker 2: where it was like use because they okay, so they

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Speaker 2: do that right where they dangle people from the helicopter,

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Speaker 2: and uh, I was always like, why don't you just

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Speaker 2: why do you just let him in? Why do they

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Speaker 2: do that? Just put him in the fucking helicopter? You know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's the that's the last place. That's

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Speaker 2: the last place I would want to be if I

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Speaker 2: was injured, is dangling from a helicopter, right, Like, sorry.

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Speaker 3: About your broken back, but you're about to go in

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Speaker 3: the ride of your fucking life. Man. Yeah, can they

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Speaker 3: at least like winch them up? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: There has to be a better system. Those are the

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Speaker 3: clips of people of the helicopters doing that with like

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Speaker 3: big animals like elephants and ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, I have to that. Yeah the elephant,

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Speaker 2: I get the elephant. They can't get him in.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's understanding.

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Speaker 2: That must be bro, that must be crazy for the elephant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's that's fucking I don't know the first

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Speaker 3: time I ever saw that, I was just like, huh,

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Speaker 3: Like this is like, what is the point of this?

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Speaker 3: They didn't look injured, you know, It's just like it's

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Speaker 3: the morning. He's like, I have an idea. Boys, let's go.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna wrangle lesson elephant.

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Speaker 2: So okay, I'm when when do you get discharged? Do

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Speaker 3: I don't know yet. Let's see, I started this adventure

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Speaker 3: about one so and the swelling is still going up.

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Speaker 3: So they're just kind of I'm just kind of chilling

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Speaker 3: until they know more. But my friend just dropped me

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Speaker 3: off like a shitload of fried rise, so I'm like

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Speaker 3: sneakily eating it because I'm because I'm not supposed to

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Speaker 2: Don't tell well, hold on, why are you not supposed

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Speaker 3: Talk about them? They don't tell me anything, just tell

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Speaker 2: I feel like, if the doctor tells you hold on,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, pro if the doctor tells you you're not

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Speaker 2: supposed to be eating, don't fucking eat? What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Well? They say they aren't, they aren't sure yet, and

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Speaker 3: I haven't. I'm not taking the end of venom and

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Speaker 3: I haven't, you know, there's like I only took freaking

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Speaker 3: painkillers and commit a drill, Like, I'm pretty sure I

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Speaker 3: can eat on painkillers.

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Speaker 2: Drill the doctor said. If the doctor says you're not

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Speaker 2: supposed to eat, don't eat.

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Speaker 3: They said they weren't sure. They didn't do it, yes

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Speaker 3: or no. Yeah, so they didn't definitely say it, don't.

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Speaker 3: They said, well, we're still figuring stuff out. So I

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Speaker 3: feel like if it was that pertinent, they would have

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Speaker 3: been like, yeah, no, don't not like not make it

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Speaker 3: kind of vague, because if you even vague, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: do what I want to do. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, whatever do you do, I.

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Speaker 3: Need to do it. Die copperheads, don't.

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Speaker 2: Feel I see where you're I see what your I

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Speaker 2: see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: If they don't put that on me, don't put that

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Speaker 3: on me?

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Speaker 2: What do you what do you?

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Speaker 4: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Don't put it on you? It's on you, Yes, it is,

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Speaker 2: it is on you. It is propectively on you. No,

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Speaker 2: if you die, here's I I will. I'll say this though.

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Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from. That if it was

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Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, if you yes, if it was

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Speaker 2: dire enough that if you ate you were going to die. Yes,

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Speaker 2: probably they would be like, don't do it until we

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Speaker 2: find out. But that's what they fucking said. What I

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Speaker 2: don't care? I mean, I care a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: I I care well, actually no, I care as much

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Speaker 2: as you do, which seems to.

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Speaker 3: Be very very I just, uh, you know, I feel

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Speaker 3: like it's gonna be okay. And if say, if I die,

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Speaker 3: I'll die happy eating fried rice. I mean, I'm cool

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 2: What's what's your name, Jed?

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Speaker 3: Jed?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: What do you see? Your musician? What do you what

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Speaker 2: flute and the snakes, uh rise from a from a basket?

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Speaker 2: Is that what the kind of music you make? Is

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Speaker 2: that what we're hanging out with? Snakes?

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Speaker 3: I'm actually concerned that like that will be like some

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Speaker 3: weird superpower I gain after this, But I'll cross that

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Speaker 2: Okay. Is that real? What is that? What is that called?

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Speaker 2: That's a real art thing people do? Oh? Snake charming,

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Speaker 2: snake charming in that wild that some.

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Speaker 3: Dude along the line was like, hey, I got this flute.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what the Snake's gonna think, like, who comes

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Speaker 3: up with that?

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Speaker 2: How old are you? Jed?

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Speaker 3: I'm thirty four? Man, Holy shit, I thought.

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Speaker 2: You were in nineteen bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I sound like a young man and got like

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Speaker 3: I'm still kind of childish. I'm like, you know, I

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Speaker 3: feel like I'm very uh, I've been through last shit,

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Speaker 3: I'm very emotionally mature, but I still like to just like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I do fun stuff steel like skip rocks,

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Speaker 3: watch cartoons. You know. I'm trying to hold onto that

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Speaker 3: that childlike wonder as long as possible, because you got to.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, thirty four years up? Thirty four is

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Speaker 2: it's too old to be named Jed? I think.

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Speaker 3: WHI should I change it to? It's I feel like

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Speaker 3: thirty five is probably a good cutoff, but I yeah,

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Speaker 3: thirty four is cutting close?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty Yeah, thirty four is is? No. I think

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Speaker 2: the cutoff for Jed is like twenty seven. I think

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Speaker 2: thirty Maybe you could change it to something adult like David,

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Speaker 2: maybe Adam Timothy. That's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I made though, Lyle is you know, you're

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Speaker 3: kind of too young to be named Lyle too, you know,

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Speaker 3: Le seems like an old man's name. I hate him,

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Speaker 3: but if we're pointing out each other's names, you know,

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Speaker 3: I just I just figured i'd throw that out there.

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I have to miss. I had a really

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Speaker 2: Your this is your full time, this is your full

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Speaker 2: I mean cool, very cool, very cool, very cool, very cool, interesting, interesting, interesting,

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it's quite cool talk. It's cool talking to

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Speaker 3: I've been listening to you. Sorry, sorry, I've been listening

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna take some questions from the chat. And

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Speaker 2: Let's see here, Well, I have a question. Where's the

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Speaker 3: There's egg? His chicken and I got extra beds. He

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Speaker 2: That's cool. People want to know what kind of snake

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a younger copperhead, which is why I

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Speaker 2: Oh I've never seen a snake yawn before. That sounds cool.

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Speaker 3: It was super cool, man. It was all very like,

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Speaker 2: It was very Someone wants to know, are you worried

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You have to pay for that.

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Speaker 3: Ship, right, I mean I don't have to. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Wait, what do you mean? You know? Don't they like

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Speaker 3: I mean they can try, but I mean there's no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's true. I was talking to I

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Speaker 2: We were saying, there are two ways to be rich.

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Speaker 3: Right my thoughts exactly. So I had a similar not

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Speaker 3: there's been a couple weird hospital situations. What I owe

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Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I no, I can't even concern myself

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Speaker 3: I guess, but I don't have anything to give you.

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Speaker 2: You know, someone wants to know. Are you mad at

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Speaker 3: No, it's not the snake's vault. Like I usually walk

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Speaker 3: usually really vigilant. I mean I did cut. Don't get

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Speaker 2: Oh, that probably really hurt his feelings. I know it

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Speaker 3: So typically I have my boots on when I'm walking

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Speaker 3: and I was gonna follow boss Man back in his car,

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Speaker 3: And it was one of those things. I was walking

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Speaker 2: Well, Jed, I hope you get better. I hope that

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Speaker 2: the hot I hope I'm gonna give here's my manifestations

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Speaker 2: for you that'll end this car with. I manifest that

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Speaker 2: about you. I manifest that the fried rice you just

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Speaker 2: powers that will allow you to talk to snakes. And

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Speaker 2: I manifest that all the snakes I think you're cool.

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Speaker 2: I assume that snakes, because that's the thing is, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a whole thing of like it would be cool

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Speaker 3: Got that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then it doesn't really matter if you can talk

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Speaker 2: to them, but I think they'll probably think you're cool.

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Speaker 2: Jet is anything else you want to say to the

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Speaker 2: people the computer before we go?

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Speaker 3: First of all, that was really thoughtful, all your manifestations.

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Speaker 3: Wele thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: You're the man.

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Speaker 3: And I'll just leave you with a fun fact about

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Speaker 3: copperheads if you didn't know, copperheads are one of the

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Speaker 3: only snakes you actually make for life. And they'll meet

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Speaker 3: up and go to their din the same place every year,

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Speaker 3: which I find that interesting. And that's all I got.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for calling jed ah right, buddy, I love you.

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Speaker 2: Say say what you will about gecko's but we don't bite,

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Speaker 2: not that hard.

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Speaker 5: All from alex Ornoys.

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Speaker 2: These guys Hello, Hello, what is your name? Good sir,

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Speaker 2: my name is Alex. Alex. I really I don't know

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Speaker 2: why I'm saying this right off the bat, but you

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Speaker 2: seem like like a wholesome guy.

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Speaker 5: No way, Well, I really appreciate that. Actually, I just

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Speaker 5: got off of wor. Yeah, you're a wholesome guy as well.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I don't say that. I don't like when

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Speaker 2: people say that about me. I don't think whole. I

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Speaker 2: don't Wholesome is not a U. It's not really a compliment.

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Speaker 2: It's just like it's like a it's a it's just

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Speaker 5: You know, Hm, I guess the way I perceive things

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Speaker 5: with being autistic, I guess when somebody says I'm wholesome,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it just seems like I guess I

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Speaker 2: I'm not hold on, I'm not trying to I'm not

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Speaker 2: trying to insult you. I'm just uh, not that of

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Speaker 2: anything I'm saying is anything to do with you. This

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Speaker 2: is this is just how my guess, my my brain works. No, wholeso.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like a whole wholesome. Like

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Speaker 2: when I think about the word wholesome, it feels like, uh,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I guess I'm not like uh uh, I

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Speaker 2: guess I don't. It feels cutesy to me, and I

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Speaker 2: guess I don't like being called cutesy. But I'm also

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Speaker 2: sitting here in an in an adorable Gecko costume. So

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Speaker 2: I bring any and all of these things completely on

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Speaker 2: my own, I take I take responsibility for that. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we got off the rails way too fast here, mister Alex.

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Speaker 2: Enough about me and my and my dumb whatever. What's

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Would you would I assume, I assume you came here

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Speaker 2: for some reason. What would that reason be?

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00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, and my reason for trying to call

436
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 5: you so many times? And congratulations on streaming five days

437
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 5: in a row. I got the live alert, and I

438
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 5: was so excited. I just got off work. I wanted

439
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: to talk to you about I felt sabotaged and caused

440
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 5: myself to get fired from a really good corporate job

441
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 5: back in March, and I've been trying to land back

442
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 5: on my feet, but it's really hard. I guess I

443
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 5: just don't really know how to feel about it because

444
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 5: it was my fault. I don't think I'll ever get rehired.

445
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 5: And now I'm in a way worse job, doing a

446
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 5: lot more work and making a lot less money than

447
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: I was.

448
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a few I have a few questions.

449
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: How old are you, Alex?

450
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 5: I am twenty six?

451
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 2: Okay, rock and roll me too? What well, tell me

452
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: what did you do to get fired from this job?

453
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 5: I was working from home and mental health crisis kind

454
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 5: of ensued and I kind of started my work computer

455
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Speaker 5: on fire.

456
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: You started your work computer on fire?

457
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: Correct?

458
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: Like had what? So you? What did you do to

459
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: set your computer on fire?

460
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: So?

461
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 5: First I pour well, I tried to pour like some

462
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 5: cleaner on it and then wouldn't ignite. Then I just

463
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 5: used like an aerosol and just sprayed it with a

464
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 5: lighter underneath it, and once that started catching and then

465
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 5: it went and then I kind of had like a

466
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 5: breakthrough after doing that. I was also incredibly intoxicated as well,

467
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 5: which didn't help things. But and then you know, kind

468
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 5: of watched it burn for a little while, and I'm like,

469
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 5: what am I doing? Like the stupidest thing ever, you know,

470
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 5: Like and I grabbed a fire extinguisher and I put

471
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 5: it out, but obviously trying to get a replacement on

472
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 5: that and didn't explain it very well. And yeah, my

473
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 5: fault entirely. I take responsibility.

474
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Speaker 2: Why did you set your computer on fire?

475
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: You know?

476
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 5: And that's the question I've been trying to answer myself.

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 5: I am in professional therapy. I've been going for about

478
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 5: eight well over a year now, actually since I three

479
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: months before I even lost this job, and I've been

480
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 5: working with my therapist. I've been doing all these things

481
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 5: and I don't know I was too drunk, and that

482
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 5: part is blacked out, like I don't I don't know

483
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 5: what what court snapped to cause me to take the

484
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 5: actions that I did. I just I know it happened.

485
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 5: And now I'm kind of in the clean up part.

486
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Speaker 2: You said you referred to this as a mental health crisis.

487
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: What did something like trigger you to like go like

488
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: just like go go feral?

489
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 5: Well, I know when I've because I've been trying to

490
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 5: work through this and go back through my thoughts I

491
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 5: from who I was talking to, I was talking with

492
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 5: a family member that tends to be kind of toxic

493
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 5: that had reached out to me, and I'd kind of

494
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 5: been fighting with them, and I'm thinking that may have

495
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 5: something to do with it, But I really I don't

496
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: know what triggered it, because looking back, like this was

497
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 5: the best job I ever had, and if I wouldn't

498
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 5: have gotten fired, I would I'm even now, eight months later,

499
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 5: I've contemplated reapplying, but there's no way they're going to

500
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 5: hire me back, not after what I did.

501
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, that's a whole other aspect of this that

502
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm curious to get into, But for now, what'd your

503
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: therapist say when you told them that you lit this

504
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: computer on fire?

505
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 5: They were pretty shocked. They kind of knew that I

506
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 5: hated this job. I certainly I didn't speak highly of

507
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 5: it in therapy. I kind of trashed the job, and

508
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 5: I think it was more of an ego thing. I

509
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 5: felt like I was almost better because I had this

510
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 5: decent job, and you know, I think my ego got

511
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 5: the best of me. But they basically they've worked through

512
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: it with me. Kind of what happened more coping strategies,

513
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 5: recognizing the thought patterns you know, and especially you know,

514
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 5: just trying to be better and did not have this

515
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: ever happen again.

516
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: So you didn't like this job. Is it something where

517
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: you hated this job so much that, uh, lighting the

518
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: computer on fire was a symbol of your hatred?

519
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 5: You know, I've thought about it. I don't think it

520
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 5: was that. I mean, I greatly disliked the job, but

521
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 5: it could have been worse. And now even looking back

522
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: because of how bad you know, the economy is and

523
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 5: trying to get a new job, I look back on

524
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: it like, Hey, it wasn't even that bad at all.

525
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: I think I just got it sol on for a second.

526
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: I got I want to I'll get into what now

527
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: in the future and all that stuff, But I guess

528
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: I'm just curious why you did this? What did Have

529
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: you done something like this before?

530
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 5: Not with fire. I've gotten at that job previously. I

531
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 5: had gotten upset and like punched monitors and broke them,

532
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 5: but I've never started anything on.

533
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: Fire as you're so, have you talked to your therapist

534
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: about like like anger issues and whatnot?

535
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: I have? And that leads kind of into a can

536
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 5: of worms with the mental health and feeling stuff.

537
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Okay, what they don't.

538
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: They don't think I have anger issues. It's more me

539
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: having an inability to recognize my thoughts and feelings when

540
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 5: it comes to like some of the autism, like I can,

541
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 5: but kind of understanding how it works in a way,

542
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: recognizing how I feel. That's one of the reasons I've

543
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 5: been in therapy so long, is trying to be healthier.

544
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 5: I was in therapy even before any of this happened.

545
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

546
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: Hm hmm.

547
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: How long ago was this that you let this computer

548
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: on fire? Said March eleventh, Yeah, March eleventh. Have you

549
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: had any kind of bizarre like outbursts similar to that

550
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: in these past few months?

551
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: No, not in the past few months.

552
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: How many times has something like this happened for you?

553
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 5: Honestly, this outside of punching my monitors a few times,

554
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: I think they replaced it like two or three times,

555
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 5: and then lighting my computer on fire, I those were

556
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 5: the only times. And then since then, after getting fired,

557
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: you know, there was definitely some anger and resentment, and

558
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 5: there was like one other incident after that, you know,

559
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 5: where I kind of punched a wall, but it was

560
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 5: nothing to the extent of like lighting something on fire.

561
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: In your current state of mind and of being. Are

562
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: you confident that something like this wouldn't happen again?

563
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: I would say yes, Okay, and I say that because

564
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: I have seriously considered reapplying.

565
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: Okay, look you yeah you probably yeah, you probably not could,

566
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: you probably not could get that job back. I know, yeah,

567
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: you're not getting there. I don't think you're getting that

568
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: job back. But that's okay, all right, hold on, it's not.

569
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm not You're totally not getting that job back. But

570
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: that is in no way, shape or form an indication

571
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: that your life is ruined forever. But you're totally not

572
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: getting that job back. Ok I know there's a whole

573
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: aspect of this that where you're like, you seem like

574
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: you're worried that everything is going to suck forever, and

575
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about that, but I just

576
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: still am so fixated on I guess why you did

577
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: this and if it's like and I'm not a real therapist,

578
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a real therapist, but just as

579
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: a human being talking to you right now, I am

580
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: curious why you did this and if you're if it

581
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: would happen again, because I'm less concerned because the job thing, Yes,

582
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: it's important. But I guess my concern is, are just

583
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: you as a human being stable? Do you feel stable?

584
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 5: Yes, I feel extremely stable. I'm actually just starting to

585
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 5: now land on my feet a little bit. I after

586
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: getting fired from that job, I worked two other jobs,

587
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 5: pretty short stints, one at a hardware store and then

588
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: one at a hotel, both of which fired me after

589
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: a few weeks, one saying I wasn't a good fit

590
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: in the other one due to just some background issues.

591
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: And there's a lot of challenges in me getting a job,

592
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 5: so losing that good job has been a little difficult.

593
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: Now I'm a painter. I've been doing that for a

594
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: little over a month, and I actually really like it.

595
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 5: It's my first blue collar job i've i've had. It's

596
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: a really good physical exercise. Yeah, so it's starting to

597
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: land on my feet. But I would like to think

598
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: that I'm stable and you know, healthy. I meet with

599
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: my therapist once a week. I have been very much

600
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: enjoying your live streams because I get off right about

601
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 5: the time that you've been going live these past few days.

602
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 5: Life is good, you know.

603
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: I hope you're doing it good, good, good. I'm glad

604
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: to hear that life is good. Were you fire? Were you?

605
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: You know, I've talk about this if you don't want to,

606
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: but like, were you? Were you fired from those other

607
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: jobs because of something similar to the thing whatever was

608
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: that made you let your computer on fire? Or was

609
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: these kind of this is a different thing.

610
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: No, the one job I didn't pass the background, they

611
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: let me work for two and a half weeks, you know,

612
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 5: running the front desk of the hotel. But once the

613
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 5: general manager came back from vacation, magically my background wasn't

614
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: good enough, so they let me go. And then the

615
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 5: other job, I was just quoted as not a good

616
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 5: fit where I think it was just some of the

617
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 5: interpersonal you know, with the autism and mental health, because

618
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 5: going from working from home for three years to an

619
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: in person job.

620
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you're you're a painter. How long you've

621
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: been doing the paints.

622
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: A little over a month?

623
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 6: Now?

624
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 2: Okay? All right? So I mean let's talk about the uh,

625
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: the dwelling you're feeling like you you I guess you've

626
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: expressed regret that you don't have this corporate job anymore.

627
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: You feel? Is that what you're feeling?

628
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: It is?

629
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: Tell me the more about this regret.

630
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 5: I regret getting fired and the actions I took, and

631
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: the fact that I that I'm not lying to you

632
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: and not really knowing definitely what caused me to act

633
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 5: the way I did. But yeah, it's sorry. Can you

634
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: it just the thought just left my mind. Can you

635
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 5: repeat what you had asked me?

636
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: No, I just I just was just wanted you to

637
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: go back to talking about like it's it seems as

638
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: though you're I guess kind of yeah, you're in a

639
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: yearning back for this job. But I but I think,

640
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: uh sure, even if the job may have paid more money,

641
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: the bottom level to me and I don't know, to me,

642
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: the bottom line is that you're telling me. When you

643
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: talked just now about being a painter, you talked about

644
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: it in higher regard than the job that you claim

645
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: you hated. Is that accurate?

646
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: It is accurate, But the only reason it was at

647
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: a bank. The previous job was at a bank, and

648
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 5: I guess part of me just didn't sit well, you know,

649
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 5: even if I was just taking new applications and stuff,

650
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 5: a lot of people just didn't really understand the financial terms,

651
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 5: and it was kind of predatory, you know, and getting

652
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: people in debt. You know, and that's one of the

653
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: reasons I had started therapy and was really disliking that job,

654
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 5: is because, yeah, they paid really good money, but it

655
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: was work from home. I was alone. I was more depressed.

656
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: But now but now it was you know, I got

657
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 5: fired and then had two jobs that I started and

658
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: got quit and lost all the stability as well. So

659
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: it's been kind of hard landing back on my feet.

660
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 5: But I've been doing really good with this painting job.

661
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: It's been about a month and a half.

662
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: Now, are you enjoying the painting job more than the

663
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: bank thing?

664
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: Not?

665
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 5: Really, It's more satisfying, like being able to see your work,

666
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: you know, paint a wall and you can see it

667
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: in front of you. But you know, I took an

668
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 5: eight dollars pay cut and I have a thirty minute

669
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: commute now where I had no commute before, and I

670
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: made a lot more money. But I think there's something

671
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: to be said, you know that.

672
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, but but before, First of all, I mean,

673
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: satisfaction is I would call I would call that a

674
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: form of enjoyments.

675
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 4: Uh.

676
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: Second of all, you I mean you really see, I

677
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: mean you hated that job so much that you lit

678
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: your computer on fire. That's a sign that it was

679
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: that's a sign that it wasn't a good fit for

680
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: either party. You know what I'm saying?

681
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

682
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: So if I mean, I don't know do I'm just

683
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: from listening to you talk, it sounds like you are

684
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: doing better in this in this painting gig, even if

685
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: it's not as much money, honey, it sounds like you

686
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: you hate it significantly less. Just from what you're telling me.

687
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if you if you believe that or not.

688
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 5: I do, and actually, you know, being that one, excuse me,

689
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: That's why I wanted to talk to you so bad,

690
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 5: because it's like I feel like I know these things

691
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 5: in my head and I try to talk to them

692
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 5: with my therapist. But yeah, like you are absolutely right,

693
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 5: there's something to be said about job satisfaction and yeah

694
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 5: I do feel.

695
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 2: Happy though, Okay, good, that's all that fucking matters? Dude.

696
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: That's actually no, I don't think that's all that matters,

697
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: but it I'm probably I don't actually think that's all

698
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: that matters, but I'm probably wrong. Did that make any sense?

699
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: I just expressed how I feel about life exactly perfectly correct,

700
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: which is uh. I don't think that happiness is all

701
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: that matters. But simultaneously I think I'm wrong.

702
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: I think you're right. Sorry, that's I'm parked. I am parked.

703
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 5: That's somebody next to me. I'm still in the parking

704
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 5: lot at work.

705
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: But so let me so so so here, let me

706
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: let me just say this. First of all, I'm glad

707
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: you're happier. That's a good sign. Uh, that's probably all

708
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: that matters.

709
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: And uh, just if I could, I don't, if anything,

710
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 6: just the worst thing I think you could do in

711
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 6: this situation is to like dwell you know what I mean.

712
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: That's just never helped. And I think, look at there's

713
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: a different there's a difference, right, and it's maybe it's

714
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: kind of like a bell curve of like dwelling versus

715
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, Hey, that didn't work out, probably because of

716
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: these reasons. Let me use that to inform the future

717
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: so that I may not make the same mistakes again.

718
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: You know, that's health, it's positive versus Oh, I'm such

719
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: a fucking idiot and I shouldn't have done that and

720
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: now everything's ruined and blah blah blah blah blah. That's

721
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: not helpful at all. You know, so if that is

722
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: what you're doing. But I say this to someone who

723
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: does that with a lot of things, and it's and

724
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: I said that as somebody who's done that with a

725
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: lot of things in his life and it ain't helped

726
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: me a single bit. The dwelling it's a it's a

727
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: giant a highway to fucking nowhere. So if you feel

728
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: like there's things to learn from by an analyzing why

729
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: you might have let your computer on fire, then learn

730
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: from them and apply them to the future. But if

731
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: you're just doing it to feel shitty about yourself and

732
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: to adopt an unhelpful narrative into your brain that you

733
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: suck and your life's gonna suck forever, I would recommend

734
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: attempting not to do that, because again I've done that,

735
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: and it's it's a it's a real pathway to nowhere.

736
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: Does that all make sense?

737
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 5: It does? And I really I can absolutely appreciate and share,

738
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 5: you know what, in what you're sharing, because that is

739
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 5: kind of how life works. And I've actually, you know,

740
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 5: I've been working on shifting my perspective. If one thing

741
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 5: has taught me getting fired from these two other jobs

742
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 5: is you know, it's helped me with my social skills

743
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 5: and want to improve and from there. You know, now,

744
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 5: even with the painting gig, they kind of know I'm

745
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 5: not going to leave because I've been here months and

746
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 5: a half. You know, I'm not a new person that

747
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: started for a week and left. So they're actually starting

748
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: to teach me some stuff. So I'm actually starting to learn.

749
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: And you know, I like the fact that, you know,

750
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 5: I won't be automated AI with paint thing and stuff

751
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: like that, So I do I share your per No,

752
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 5: They'll they'll.

753
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: No, they'll they'll they'll they'll find a way to do that.

754
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: They'll make like a robot paint brush guy, and they'll

755
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: give him like a face and whiskers and make it

756
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: cute and call him Adam the cat paintbrush or something.

757
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: You'll know, we're all gonna be We're all fucked, but uh,

758
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: you know, we can enjoy the time we have until then.

759
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: What's your name? Against sir?

760
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 5: Name is Alex.

761
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Your name is Alex. I'm I was about to say,

762
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about you. I'm I'm ninety percent not

763
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: worried about you. I think you'll be okay.

764
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: Well, hey, I appreciate that, I really do, and.

765
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: And if if it, if it, by the way, if

766
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: it helps you, and at all, I think that I

767
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: don't think lighting your computer on fire is a good idea,

768
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: But I.

769
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: Can image, I understand why you did it. From the

770
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: perspective of I can imagine that doing that probably feels amazing.

771
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: Could you imagine like your boss is saying something annoying

772
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: to you on Slack, or you get an email that

773
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: pisss you off, and you just light your computer on fire.

774
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: That would be fucking awesome. I get. I get why

775
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I get why. I don't get like

776
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: the mechanisms of what is going on in your brain

777
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: that causes you to do that, I don't really understand. Maybe,

778
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: but just from the point of view of I mean,

779
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: who doesn't want to light their fucking work computer on fire?

780
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Point of view of of course, yeah, of course that

781
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: sounds awesome. That sounds fantastic, ultimate power move.

782
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I.

783
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: Don't do it again, but or anything like that again, Yeah,

784
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: I understand why you get that. I've always I've had

785
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: plenty of times where I wanted to just take my

786
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: computer and smash it on the fucking ground. Uh, but

787
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: you know you can't. You can't do that, Alex. Is

788
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: there anyth else you gonna say to the people of

789
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: the computer before we go?

790
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: I guess I would say, you know, I learned a

791
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 5: valuable life lesson from this. I'm so happy I was

792
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: able to get on your show, Lyle. You're amazing. I

793
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: hope everybody has a great day.

794
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: Hey, take care, Alex.

795
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 5: Thanks Wow.

796
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I mean you guys, you've seen Office Space, right, It's

797
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: like that scene where they smash the pro printer or

798
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: the fax machine or whatever it is. I get why

799
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: the guy did it. The guy I just know. I mean,

800
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: I don't get why the guy. I don't know that.

801
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: That's not what I meant. I don't understand specifically in

802
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: this specific situation why this man lit his computer on fire.

803
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: But I understand in a general sense why someone would

804
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: because it seems like it'ld be really fun. But I

805
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: don't endorse it. Maybe I don't know. Maybe I endorse it.

806
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't. I'm dorse the idea that

807
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: it sounds fun. I'm gonna go do it right now.

808
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Hello, Gek, are you there?

809
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: Yes? What is your name, sir? What is your name.

810
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: What is your name?

811
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: My name is Jake.

812
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Jake. I like that. I like that name. I like

813
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: that name. What's going on, Jake? How can I get

814
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: you today? What's happening?

815
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to see you in Atlanta in like a

816
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: week or two.

817
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: Oh cool, cool, very cool, very cool. Yes, I am playing.

818
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plug real quick. I am playing The Earl

819
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: in Atlanta on September twenty eighth. The early show was

820
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: sold out. The late show. There's some tickets left. Are

821
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: you going to the early one or the late one?

822
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: The late one?

823
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: Okay? Cool, I'm very excited. I like that venue a lot.

824
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: Shout out. The Earl had a great time last year.

825
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a good time this year.

826
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: U well, I texted you as well, but I called

827
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: him this time. I I like to explore abandoned buildings.

828
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: That's like something I do pretty often.

829
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: You like to explore abandoned buildings. Well, hopefully when you

830
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: come to the Earl, it won't be abandoned. That was

831
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: that was that was That was a joke I was

832
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: trying to make about people, like if people don't come, sorry,

833
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: what kind of abandoned? Like you? You? Oh, there's a

834
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: word for this urban urban exploration. Yes, urbax urban exploration

835
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: where I'm so, uh, do you have asbestos? That's my

836
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: first question.

837
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: I hope not. But there's a lot of abandoned buildings

838
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: where I'm from. I've been to some schools. I've been

839
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: to a peanut butter factory, which is like definitely my

840
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: favorite one I've been to.

841
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: Tell me about the peanut butter factory.

842
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this place was. This is probably the

843
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: largest building I've ever been in before that was abandoned

844
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: and they had all the systems of distribution there. They

845
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: had the packaging center, they had the offices, they had

846
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: where they made the peanut butter, they had the storage.

847
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: The place we walked into was initially the where they

848
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: make the peanut butter and had these giant vats that

849
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: we crawled on top of and we able to look

850
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: into and they were all empty because the place was abandoned.

851
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: But it was really cool. I know a lot of

852
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: people go there to steal like metal piping and stuff,

853
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: but I me and my friends never did that. We

854
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: all we just went there for fun and to take

855
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: photos because one of my friends, the photographer.

856
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: Uh where okay, I don't know. If you're breaking a code,

857
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: you probably would be well, where is this peanut butter factory?

858
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't live there anymore, but it's in upstate New York.

859
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Okay. Now what Normally when I see like urban exploration stuff,

860
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: it's like I see a lot of like malls and

861
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: movie theaters and stuff like that. How do you even

862
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: how do you even find out about these places?

863
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 6: Right?

864
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: Because you can't just they're not just around, right. You

865
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: gotta kind of know where you're what you're looking for.

866
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like two different ways. We found a lot

867
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: of ours just by living in a shitty town where

868
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff was just run down. So

869
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: we found this like really old school from like the

870
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties just by driving by it one day and

871
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, I think there's like a building

872
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: behind them, like that tree line, and then we like

873
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: parked our care we explored and we found like a

874
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: little school there. But the other way people do it

875
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: is like Google Maps. They go on Google Maps and

876
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: they look for the tops of like destroyed houses. That's

877
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: the other way of doing it. We found a factor

878
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: that way, a textile mill doing it that way.

879
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I actually used to do a lot of

880
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: this in high school. That was like kind of our

881
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: favorite thing to do in high school was to do uh.

882
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it was called urbex until later,

883
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: but uh yeah. We'd go into the woods and like

884
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: find weird abandoned places. And there was this like abandoned

885
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: mansion that my friends and I would just go into

886
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: to smoke weed all the time. There was so much

887
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: fun doing that. Yeah, I guess my. But looking back

888
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: on it, though, is not to like be your fucking

889
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: mom or whatever, but it is dangerous. It is dangerous.

890
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 2: You could step in one direction and you fall through

891
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: three floors and fucking just die, you know. I mean,

892
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: it is a dangerous thing to do. I'll be walking

893
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: around like like I don't know if you ever walked

894
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: into a non abandoned building, but when you do that,

895
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: it's like there's all these people that were hired specifically

896
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: to make sure that when you walk around this building

897
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: you don't die. And when a building is abandoned, all

898
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: those people whose jobs is to make sure that the

899
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: people in this building don't randomly die, they don't do

900
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: they're not doing that, So you're you're you're going in

901
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: very raw to these buildings, So I guess I don't

902
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: I don't recommend urbex necessarily on that, on that notion,

903
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: just because you might like get fucked up, right, I mean,

904
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: have you encountered a lot of danger doing this?

905
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: Honestly? I think the thing I'm scared of most is

906
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: just like finding like homeless people or something there. But

907
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: I've only ever encountered that where I live now, not

908
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: in Upstate New York, where I used to do it

909
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: a lot. I only explored one abandoned building down here

910
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: where I live now, and that's where I encountered a

911
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: homeless person. Then I decided I don't want to do

912
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: that anymore down here.

913
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: Well, at that point, they're more of a squatter.

914
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's just a lot of homeless people where

915
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: I live, and they're all really scary.

916
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: Why was it particularly scared? Why was it particularly scary

917
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: this homeless person that you encountered?

918
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: So this is my first time. It was like my

919
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: first week when I moved here, and across from my

920
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: apartment complex where I was staying for college, I saw

921
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: an abandoned I want to say, it was like an

922
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: abandoned senior center. Which is already a very creepy place

923
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: to exist and be abandoned. But I went there with

924
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: me and my friend I had just met, and we

925
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: both brought girls there. And we're going through one of

926
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: the side doors and we hear like scratching and all

927
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: like freaking out, and we don't know what exactly is

928
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: going on, and I just assume it's like a raccoon

929
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: or something, because I've done this a lot, and it's

930
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: always just like a raccoon or something. And there's like

931
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: this creepy pinball machine or not a pinball, I'm sorry,

932
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: a slot machine in this like dark room, and I

933
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: see like a person's head peek out from beside it,

934
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ah, we gotta get the fuck out

935
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: of here. So then we like run across the street

936
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: back to the apartment complex.

937
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry to hear. I'm sorry to hear that

938
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: that man's misery and plights in life have prevented you

939
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 2: from getting laid. That's really, that's really tough.

940
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: It is unfortunate. I feel like I was kind of

941
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: invading his home, to be honest, So I feel bad,

942
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: a little bad looking back on it now.

943
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: Well a little bit. I mean, yeah, that would make

944
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: me feel bad too if it was like, uh, you know,

945
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: I mean this guy is using this band in place

946
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: for shelter, like that's all he has, and you go

947
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: in there like, well there, I guess that. Yeah, there's

948
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: something kind of I guess sucked up where it's like,

949
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: you know, this person is using this this is all

950
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: they have, and you're just like, oh, this is a

951
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: hobby to me to explore places like this.

952
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's almost like demeaning to them. So I

953
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: feel a little bit bad about that.

954
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: Do you have other hobbies? But do you you know,

955
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: do you play checkers? What do you do besides this?

956
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: My hobbies include pretty much just going to the gym,

957
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: and I go to college and work full time. Now

958
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: that's why I have I pretty much no time to

959
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: do anything but go to the gym and go to

960
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: work and do my school work. How old are you,

961
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: I'm twenty one?

962
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, What are you hoping to continue urban explorating

963
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: until in in your later years of life?

964
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm settled down now. I'm engaged, and

965
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: I really don't think I have any more need for that.

966
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: Yay, Jesus fucking Christ, who'd you get engaged to?

967
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: Oh? My my manager. I used to work at Starbucks

968
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: and I got engaged to my manager there I have. Wow.

969
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool. I guess that's cool. Are you How

970
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: old is she?

971
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: Twenty nine?

972
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: Okay? All right? How long you guys been dating.

973
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: About? We just hit our two year.

974
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: Mark now, okay?

975
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: Any other two years?

976
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: It's cool. Love triumphs overall. Yeah, maybe maybe you could have.

977
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 2: Maybe you could have your wedding in an abandoned building

978
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: and everyone can get asbestos, get hurt, and then ever

979
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: and then ever and then here's here's what you do.

980
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: You get everyone in a building and you have your

981
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: wedding there, and everyone gets ausbestos and gets hurt, and

982
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: then as a wedding gift, they can, I guess, give

983
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: you the money that they would win in in the

984
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: in the lawsuit against the developer.

985
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be a good con. Could I could get

986
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: behind that?

987
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think you'll be You'll probably you will

988
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: probably be all right. Do you think you won't be

989
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: all right?

990
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: Or do you? Are?

991
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: You pretty camp? You seem confident that you're gonna be okay,

992
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: And that makes me confident that you're gonna be okay.

993
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: I always think that my life can't get any worse

994
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: than it is right now, which I know is not true.

995
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: But I feel like, at the bare minimum, I'm okay

996
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now, and I feel like I

997
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: can sustain where I'm at right now. So that's that's

998
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: how I feel. I feel like if I can sustain

999
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: how I am, i'll be okay.

1000
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. Yes, some people are

1001
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: some people are on a never ending quest to do

1002
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: as amazingly as they possibly can. But I don't know

1003
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: how realistic that is. I think if you're I think

1004
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: if you're just like, look, I'm fine, And if I

1005
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: can keep being fine and definitely, then that's pretty good.

1006
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: I don't need to be fucking you know, Steve Jobs

1007
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know what that means, but you

1008
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1009
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: I feel like if you find happiness in making progress,

1010
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: that's going to be a sustainable way to live, because

1011
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: you'll always be getting happier, but not because of you're

1012
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: achieving a new goal, but just because you enjoy progressing.

1013
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good way to try to

1014
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: live life.

1015
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you'll be fine. Nothing I don't think anything.

1016
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: I don't think, well, how long does asbestos take to incubate?

1017
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I know by now.

1018
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: I feel like you would too, but I don't know. No, no, okay, well,

1019
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: is there any other aspect of this that you wanted

1020
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: to talk about before we go?

1021
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: No? I think we can cut it off here, gek.

1022
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 2: Okay, good luck. I don't I don't know why. I'm

1023
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: worried about you again a little bit.

1024
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's a little bit not worried and

1025
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 1: worried about me at the same time.

1026
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, I'm debating, but I mean you're you'll you'll

1027
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: be fine. Just it's like, just don't I just don't

1028
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: die and you'll be Okay. Don't go into any more

1029
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: of those buildings because you're gonna you're gonna step on

1030
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: a tile and it's gonna send you underwater or some

1031
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: crazy shit like that. Just don't don't do that. If

1032
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: anyone's listening to this and they're like and they go

1033
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: on TikTok and they're like, oh, it'd be cool to

1034
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: go into this abandoned chuck e cheese, You're gonna find

1035
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: a dead guy in there, and it's not gonna be

1036
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: fun and you just don't don't do it, don't go

1037
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: in there. I I it's my official stance.

1038
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definally. My worst fear is just finding a

1039
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: dead body in one of those buildings. That would be horrible.

1040
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: All right, is there anything else you want to say

1041
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go?

1042
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, GEK, I just know that when I look at

1043
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: the moon and you look at the moon, I'm looking

1044
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: at you and you're looking at me. That makes me happy.

1045
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you very much for calling, sir. But

1046
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 2: it goes on the line, calls every night, neverthe goes

1047
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: going to ride.

1048
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: He's teaching you how to be like but he's not

1049
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: really an expert.