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Speaker 2: are you good Man?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Andy? What's han?

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Speaker 2: Everything is good? I mean these basketball games, I mean

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Speaker 2: they go on and on and on. You know what

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Speaker 2: the to be like? You know, I mean two and

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Speaker 2: a half hours out of three and a half hours.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing. The last three four minutes of

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Speaker 2: the game, last twenty two minutes, It's okay. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not complaining. I'm just stating a fact.

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Speaker 2: I'm not complaining, all right. You know what's complaining today?

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Speaker 2: I think maybe Arizona's complaining today. And the Arizona fans.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe the way they got slocked yesterday by

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Speaker 2: Michigan ninety one seventy three. I am shocked. I am shocked.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people, you know, you and I were you

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Speaker 2: rooting for Houston and I was doing for Houston as well.

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Speaker 2: I thought Saint John's would go a little further. People

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Speaker 2: looked like Duke. Maybe. I don't think anybody in their

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Speaker 2: thinking that Michigan would be going to the finals.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 3: I would think that anyone who watched Michigan over the

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Speaker 3: course of the year knew that they were probably one

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Speaker 3: of the most explosive team in the tournament, going all

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Speaker 3: the way back to when they lost to Duke.

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Speaker 1: I thought, when I watched their game and do one.

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Speaker 3: I think about five sixty six sixty one. Those are

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Speaker 3: the two best teams in the country. And I think

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Speaker 3: what you had a chance to see not only through

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Speaker 3: Arizona last night. They are balanced, like they are big,

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Speaker 3: they're talented, they can win and with a variety of styles.

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Speaker 3: They can play fast, they can play slow, they can

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Speaker 1: They're just a well constructed team.

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Speaker 3: And the way that they handled Arizona, to me, was

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Speaker 3: get drafted in the next month or so. But Michigan

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Speaker 3: was clearly the better team. And the thing about it,

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Speaker 3: I still don't think they played their A game. That's

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you start the ballgame off in Michigan,

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, it really is.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that would have tried

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Speaker 3: It's still a guard game because you can't turn the

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Speaker 1: People are changing locations.

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Speaker 3: Eliet Caddoo, the point guard leaving North Carolina to go

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Speaker 3: one thing that we could probably say in both of

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Speaker 3: previous schools, there's something about watching Michigan where Dusty May

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Speaker 1: So give him credit for continue to develop.

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Speaker 3: Give Dusty Man and the staff credit for finding ways

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Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I expected two better ballgames.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was a shocker to me that Michigan won. I

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Speaker 3: Really why did you think they were cruise? I'm just

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Speaker 2: They would I thought they were the most underrated number

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Speaker 2: Michigan did not get the respect that they deserved when

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Speaker 2: I saw them play last night. I haven't seen them

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Speaker 2: but honestly, all you heard about was schools like Arizona,

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Speaker 3: See, because I thought those three teams, I thought it

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Speaker 3: I did not expect it to be lopsided like that.

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Speaker 3: And some of it was Michigan got out to such

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Speaker 1: And I think what we saw.

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Speaker 3: Last night was them going to another level that maybe

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about lopsided. Connecticut's going back to

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Speaker 2: the National championship game again. Okay, they beat Illinois seventy

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Speaker 2: the man of the hour of Braylan Mullins had a

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Speaker 2: coaching has a lot to do with it. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: Well damn had that many coaches leave.

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Speaker 3: Danny Hurley has done a great job of kind of

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Speaker 3: There's a toughness and inherent toughness about Yukon basketball. There's

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Speaker 2: And more than that, I mean, he comes up. He

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would say the system absolutely helps. He does

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Speaker 1: But we get talking about.

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Speaker 3: All the players that they've gotten in all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: To me, it reminds me very much of how the

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Speaker 3: They're unrelenting and what they believe in. They don't bow

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Speaker 3: And when you go there, you know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Last night, Illinois found that they shot thirty four percent

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Speaker 1: But Yukon is a champ.

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Speaker 3: And because Yukon has a championship pedigree where they've won

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Speaker 3: But the more you're on those stages and under those lights,

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Speaker 1: But I think if you Yukon, you don't have any

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Speaker 3: Learnt about the matchups in those things, as they would say, Man,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a certain attitudes, like players aspire to

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Speaker 2: that's the attitude they have. It makes a difference. They

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Speaker 2: They're not happy with that. They want to win. I mean,

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Speaker 2: He really is.

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Speaker 2: I am so sorry. Really, I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: Let's do that.

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Speaker 3: The protocol is before the game, you meet a half court.

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Speaker 3: he didn't say that she ripped her own shirt.

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Speaker 1: He painted a picture.

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Speaker 3: Where South Carolina was overwhelming and bullying them, and Don

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Speaker 3: stated was berating the officials and the calls were going

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Speaker 3: in South Carolina's favor because Dawn was working the refs.

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Speaker 3: But really what it comes down to is, look, they

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Speaker 3: got whooped.

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Speaker 1: They beat them up.

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Speaker 3: South Carolina beat Yukon up from beginning to end. And

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Speaker 3: this was avenging a loss last year in the finals where.

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Speaker 1: Yukon destroyed them.

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Speaker 3: It seemed like it might have been a forty point

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Speaker 3: win for Yukon last year in the final. South Carolina

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Speaker 3: backed it up, came back, outplayed them, forced Yukon to

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Speaker 3: play on their terms. The game was certainly physical, but look, man,

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Speaker 3: in these games in the tournament, normally the refs get

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Speaker 3: out the way and this is how South Carolina plays,

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Speaker 3: and so if it's played on their terms, they were

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Speaker 3: able to dictate it and they were able to make

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Speaker 3: Yukon very uncomfortable over the course of the game. In

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Speaker 3: South Carolina won it. It was South Carolina playing much

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Speaker 3: better than Yukon, and he was frustrated by the outcome

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Speaker 3: by what he saw, and his frustration spilled out. But

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Speaker 3: I will say this, at no point should he ever

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Speaker 3: have done what he did to Dawn Staley. It was

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Speaker 3: not only disrespectful, but it was a lack of sportsmanship.

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Speaker 3: So for him in the post game to talk about

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Speaker 3: sportsmanship and how he teaches his teams.

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Speaker 1: His words did not mak his actions, and.

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Speaker 3: The apology is a hollow one because he didn't say it.

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Speaker 3: He is a statement, and during that statement, he didn't

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Speaker 3: really apologize to Dawn. It was definitely a pr effort,

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Speaker 3: not one that had enough sincerity for my liking.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go one step further if I may. Okay,

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Speaker 2: when I look at a coach, especially on the college level,

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Speaker 2: he's more of a coach. He's a teacher. He represents

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Speaker 2: not only the program, but he represents the school that

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Speaker 2: he works for. I think it was embarrassing what he

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Speaker 2: did for the school. It really was. If I'm a

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Speaker 2: president and or athletic direct there, you got to punish

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Speaker 2: this guy. He put a damper on the school. And

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Speaker 2: what message do you send out not only to your team,

478
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Speaker 2: but to young kids that are looking watching the game

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Speaker 2: and saying, well, if he could do it, why can't

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Speaker 2: I do it. I will say one last thing, if

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Speaker 2: I may, If they ever got into the ring, my

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Speaker 2: money's on Dawn Stilly to kick his rear in because

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Speaker 2: I think she could. How's that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, it wasn't a great message, but some

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Speaker 3: of this is when you have two great programs and

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Speaker 3: two very competitive coaches. You're gonna have some of this,

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Speaker 3: so a lot of it is overblown. I didn't like

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Speaker 3: the way that he handled it because of this lack

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be like that.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be contentious, and rivalries should have a level

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Speaker 2: Here he is my partner, Bucket Brooks. Let's get into

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Speaker 2: this for a second. We kind of touched on that

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Speaker 2: Dawn Staleia genrrim A deal with the Yukon South Carolina game.

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Speaker 2: You know, honestly, there's a difference in these games, the

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Speaker 2: men's and the women's, and I think at this point

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Speaker 2: in time, it may be more enjoyable to watch the

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Speaker 2: women's game than the men's game. It's more of a

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Speaker 2: game where it's fundamental basketball, but the balance to power

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Speaker 2: I think, and the women's game is a little lopside

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Speaker 2: of bigos. You have Yukon, South Carolina, UCLA and those

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Speaker 2: are all favorites in the finals, and basically after that

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Speaker 2: is the rest of the pack, where in the men's

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Speaker 2: game there's still some questions who's gonna sneak in?

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Speaker 1: I mean a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But then when you look at the men's game, you

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Speaker 3: look at the seeds. Illinois was a three seed, Yukon

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Speaker 3: was a two seed, Arizona Michigan were one seeds. So

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Speaker 3: it's not like we have these Cinderella stories in the

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Speaker 3: men's side. Yeah, but the women's side that haves is

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Speaker 3: definitely significantly.

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Speaker 1: Better than they have nots. But the game is more competitive.

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Speaker 3: You just don't have like those Cinderella stories that some

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Speaker 3: people want to see. I think at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, on both sides, you want to see the

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Speaker 3: best teams and the best coaches in the final games.

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Speaker 3: And there's no doubt on the women's side you saw

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Speaker 3: the best all the number one seeds are there.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: Matchups between great players and great coaches.

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Speaker 1: It is a different game to watch.

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Speaker 3: The men and the women, and people talk about better

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Speaker 3: and the fundamentals and those things. Yeah, like the fundamentals

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Speaker 3: are different because they can't play above the rim.

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Speaker 1: There is more passing and cutting.

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Speaker 3: You are seeing physical defense because for everyone who talks

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Speaker 3: about the Yukon South Carolina game being.

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Speaker 1: Ugly, it was just as.

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Speaker 3: Ugly or defensive oriented as the UCLA Texas game.

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Speaker 1: You can get some of that.

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Speaker 3: When you have intense teams playing physical defense, challenging people

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Speaker 3: on every shot. Sometimes it's not going to be esthetically

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Speaker 3: pleasing to the eye.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, now that Arizona is off the board and

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Speaker 2: they're out there, we gotta get a little personal with you, Buck,

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Speaker 2: because you're Alma mater right now. Was targeting Tommy Lloyd,

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Speaker 2: the Arizona coach, as the next coach in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: But he just signed a new deal with Arizona. So

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Speaker 2: what have you heard? When does that leave the tar

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Speaker 2: Heels now looking for a basketball coach? And I gotta

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Speaker 2: believe with the way they fired Hubert Davis is not

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Speaker 2: going to make it eat. She's left to hire a

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Speaker 2: guy that goes takes you Wait a minute, you know,

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Speaker 2: unless you go deep in the tournament, you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: have a job here. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving.

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Speaker 2: There's almost too much pressure there to go to North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I think it's to scare a lot of coaches away.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's too much pressure those things.

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Speaker 3: I would say that what Carolina is getting is a

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Speaker 3: nice dose of humble pie, much like Kentucky got when

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Speaker 3: they moved on from John Calipari, and they assumed that

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Speaker 3: all of these great coaches want to just come to

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Speaker 3: the university because of what the university has done in

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Speaker 3: the past.

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Speaker 1: That has not played out.

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Speaker 3: I firmly believe from the jump that a lot of

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Speaker 3: people were going to use this job to parla it

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Speaker 3: into other contract extensions significantly more money and more control

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Speaker 3: at their respective spots.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we've seen.

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Speaker 3: The names have been repeated, like from the Florida coach

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Speaker 3: Todatos at Alabama to Tommy Lloyd to Dusty Maye was

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Speaker 3: a candidate, all of these great guys, and none of

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Speaker 3: those guys are leaving now. Carolina is stuck in a

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Speaker 3: situation where unless they hire somebody, they're not going to

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Speaker 3: hire someone who right now has a better track record

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Speaker 3: than the coach that they fired. That paints them into

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Speaker 3: a corner. I don't know where they go. They talk

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Speaker 3: about Billy Donovan. Billy Donovan came out and said he's

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Speaker 3: not gonna talk about any jobs until after the Chicago

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Speaker 3: Bulls season commences on the twelfth. That's another week the

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Speaker 3: porter opens. I think like after the final game this week.

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Speaker 3: It's not great, it's not a great look, but this

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Speaker 3: is what happens when you allow and we knew this

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Speaker 3: would happen when it's paid for play and you are

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Speaker 3: solictening money from fans and donors. They have a bigger say,

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Speaker 3: and they also are emotional because that's what fans are.

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Speaker 3: But because you're tied to them with the money, you

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Speaker 3: have to listen to it. So they fire Hubert and

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Speaker 3: we can debate whether Hubert was deserving or being fired

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Speaker 3: or not.

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Speaker 1: He's fired.

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Speaker 3: But now what you said, oh, we can get a

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Speaker 3: better coach, We're going to get a championship level coach.

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Speaker 3: Waiting to see if that's going to happen because right

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Speaker 3: now the candidates that are out there, it's not a

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Speaker 3: championship level coach that has approving track record of being

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Speaker 3: a title coach. That is going to guarantee is that

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Speaker 3: these can get to the final four each and every year,

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Speaker 3: like we demand.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what they look. Tommy Loud was like

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Speaker 2: a one on the on the list, he's gone because

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Speaker 2: he resigned. A two was probably no.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: The way it was going to order was it was

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Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd, Dusty Made they were the front runners. Billy

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Speaker 3: Donovan is behind it, NATO's like and golden to coach

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Speaker 3: from Florida dead already turned it down or like that

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Speaker 3: that was it. So we've been waiting looking at the

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Speaker 3: final four to see which of these coaches was going

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Speaker 3: to be the North Carolina coach.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of them.

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Speaker 3: Because Tommy Lloyd resigned a deal and Dusty May's in

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Speaker 3: the championship, it is very unlikely that he was going

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Speaker 3: to leave. The names that are being talked about now

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Speaker 3: Ben McCallum from Iowa. He is from Iowa. Iowa was

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Speaker 3: his dream job. He ain't leaving, right, so you don't

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Speaker 3: have him. They can talk about Binnington, the Vanderbilt coach,

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Speaker 3: and he's been fine, but he's won one NCAA tournament game.

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Speaker 3: That's not a significant upgrade that you're selling me. You know,

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Speaker 3: he was at another place. He's been to the tournament some,

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Speaker 3: but it took a while for them to get going. Now,

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Speaker 3: most recently the Texas Tech coach granted his first name.

656
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: They're talking about him, but once again, you don't have

657
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Speaker 3: a championship level like he's not championship level coach in

658
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Speaker 3: terms of like what.

659
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: He's done on his resume, he hasn't got to it.

660
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: And even in timmy Lord, who I liked as a candidate,

661
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: this is the first time timmy Lord has ever got

662
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: passed since Weet sixteen.

663
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Speaker 1: It's the first time that they've been in the final four.

664
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Speaker 3: So now you're stuck in a situation where I don't

665
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: know if you can guarantee the fan base that the

666
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: coach that you're bringing in is a significant upgrade over

667
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: the coach that you fired, and that is never good.

668
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: The coach of Saint Louis has been mentioned. I tell

669
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: you right now, I don't think that's going to bode

670
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: well for the alums in North Carolina. They won a

671
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: guy with a name from a big name school, and

672
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen. So they're gonna

673
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: have to go to a lesser level. Who's a guy

674
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: who's won at a lesser level and hopefully that guy

675
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: could come in here and really win at North Carolina.

676
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Then it's difficult because when you're at a lesser level school,

677
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: your eye is looking for, let's face it, not five

678
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: star talent, maybe four star talent. So you got to

679
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: get your eye up to five star talent because that's

680
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: where North Carolina is, right, That's exactly what you gotta do.

681
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: Whoever it is.

682
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: You have to have a track recular success, and you

683
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: struck out on all the big names that you were

684
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: promising or that you were salivating over in those scenes,

685
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: and then you got to reset. You have to kind

686
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: of take the egg off your face and just focus

687
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: on getting the best coach that you can get. But

688
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: I will say this, when you make these moves, particularly

689
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: emotional moves, after a nineteen point loss to VCU and

690
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: all this other stuff, like you jumped out there and

691
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: you put yourself out there with not having a full plan,

692
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: a fully big planed on who you're going to getting,

693
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: how you're going to get them, and so to me,

694
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: it was a it was a bad move in terms

695
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: of if you don't have this thing lockstock and barrel,

696
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: what are you doing? And now what are you doing

697
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: face because no one knows they can talk about like,

698
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: oh we have these, no one knows. Now you're scrambling

699
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: trying to find the coach and it's just a bad

700
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: look for North Carolina.

701
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: You know what, bub Bubba cunning here doesn't care. He's retiring.

702
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: He's the athletic director. He probably put the stamp on

703
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: it that that Hubert was fired, although I'm sure there's

704
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: a lot of a lum pressure to get him fired.

705
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: But Bubba's going out the door. He's going fishing. You

706
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: don't care. He won't even be involved with the new coach.

707
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Nah, But like it's not even that.

708
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: Steve Newmark is the new general manager. He I mean

709
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: the new ad. He comes with a nasty car background.

710
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, and every major program is dealing

711
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: with this. The donors, the boosters, the border trustees are

712
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: heavily involved because they control the purse strings, and when

713
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: you're soliciting money from them each and.

714
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: Every year, they want to have a greater voice.

715
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: And so all it takes is a few of those

716
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: guys to voice up to say that we can get better.

717
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: We gonna do better.

718
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm not given money until I get what I want

719
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: in terms of what I see on the sideline.

720
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Then you have to make.

721
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: Those moves because now schools are more beholden to the

722
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: boosters and the donors than ever, and the big money

723
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: people are controlling and running everything. And now it's on

724
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: the big money people to find.

725
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: A way to get a good coach. So we can

726
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: talk about the ad.

727
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: It's a little bit about the AD and more about

728
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: the donors and boosters. We'll see, but right now it's

729
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: embarrassing and it's not a great look for the university.

730
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: Right. I'm really surprised now I mentioned the president, President

731
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has signed an executive Order of court Urgent

732
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: National Action to save college sports. I don't think we

733
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: have to save college sports. I think we want to

734
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: maybe change them a little bit, but not save them.

735
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: That they're not in that dire need. They're not in

736
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: the dire strait. But the order says that university should

737
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: provide for the ability to transfer one time during the

738
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: five year eligibility period, which I like, and I think

739
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: John Caliperi has gone vocal with that and other have

740
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: done that as well. I like that one transfer deal.

741
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

742
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: No, I hate it. He shouldn't be involved in it.

743
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: That's not ell.

744
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: He shouldn't be involved.

745
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: I agree he shouldn't be involved.

746
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: Like that, they can't go through it, and it's a

747
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: much longer conversation than we can have in this break.

748
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: But I will say this, until the powers that be

749
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: involve the students and have a collective bargaining agreement where

750
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: they treat the students as they are employees and they

751
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: can negotiate salary caps in those things, it's not gonna work.

752
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: What they want is the two face to go back

753
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: into two and it's not. Now that the money's out there,

754
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: you have to negotiate with the student athletes because if

755
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 3: you take it to court, it's gonna.

756
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: Be struck down in the court of law. You can

757
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: do it. It's not gonna happen like it's a lot

758
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: much to do about nothing. That's what this is, right.

759
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: We got more on that. We'll hold that for a

760
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: little bit. Put that in the back room for a second.

761
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Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Here is Bucky Books. I'm

778
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Speaker 2: Andy Furman, and we are live from the Fox Sports

779
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Speaker 2: Radio studios and it's time for a little dumper. Are

780
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: you ready for as Bucky little Dumper?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

782
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Speaker 7: I am ready, I was born ready for this.

783
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Speaker 4: Give it time to ask our favorite analyst, Bucky Brooks

784
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 4: buck what's going on?

785
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 7: Good morning? I got a question for you too. So

786
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 7: my first let's do it all right.

787
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: So the first one here is actually in NFC West related, No,

788
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 4: not Seattle, but close.

789
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 7: We have the RAMS.

790
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: So with the Pooka Nakua, just the ongoing drama saga

791
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: that's going on with him. My question to you with

792
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: Pooka is do you think this is going to largely

793
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: impact him re signing and getting a massive extension with

794
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: the RAMS if at all?

795
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: Yes, it has to, because you got to make sure

796
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: that you can trust a player that you're about to

797
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: lavish a big contract will So it's gonna be really

798
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: important the way that he handles the reab but more

799
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: so I mean the reapp center, the stuff that he

800
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: learns from that and how he handles himself coming out

801
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: of it. He can't be involved in the dust as

802
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: he's been involved in of late. He has to make

803
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: sure that if we're gonna pay you as a franchise player,

804
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: we can trust you to be a franchise player.

805
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 7: No, I agree with that. That's a good answer. I agree.

806
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: Moving on here, So, okay, a debate has resurfaced in

807
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: barrooms and also on social media. Has Major League Baseball

808
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: overtaken the National Basketball Association as America's number two league?

809
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: Yes? Or knowing that Buck, that'd be No, it's still basketball.

810
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Like people may hate the regular season when it comes

811
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: to the NBA, but they still tune in when it

812
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: comes to the playoffs. Baseball is really challenging to follow.

813
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: It has increased in popularity, but until we're able to

814
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: get baseball to kind of I would say, loosen up

815
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: some of those unwritten rules and it feels like the

816
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic, you won't fully get everyone on board

817
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: to tune in each and every night when baseball is on.

818
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree with that too. Actually, and all right,

819
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 7: here we go with College.

820
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: So Alabama athletic director Greg Brn said the SEC championship

821
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 4: game should be no more. He said, actually go directly

822
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: from the regular season to the college football playoff.

823
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 7: What do you think of that?

824
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm okay with that, Like it doesn't matter.

825
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: But what I need I need to make sure that

826
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: everyone is on.

827
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: A level playing field.

828
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: If they're talking about playing nine league games, all of

829
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 3: the powerful conferences need to play nine league games so

830
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: we can have.

831
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: Equality all the way across the board.

832
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: And if we're not going to play the championship games,

833
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 3: then we need to start to playoff earlier. It can't

834
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: go as long as it went into January. Let's wrap

835
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: this up and get it done by January first.

836
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure. All right, So, guys, being

837
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 4: tall has its perks. I know I'm six foot, but

838
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: a growing body of research suggests that people of smaller

839
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: stature may enjoy surprising health benefits.

840
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 7: It could even help them live longer. Smaller frames may

841
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 7: work in your.

842
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 4: Favor, how well, lower cancer risk, less likely to get

843
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: a blood clot, also less likely you know, to break

844
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: a hip, more likely to live longer.

845
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Speaker 7: What do you think about that? Buck?

846
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: And you got a pit a chance of being a jockey. Fair,

847
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: that's I guess.

848
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 5: So.

849
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to be a small guy,

850
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: fun sized like, that's cool. But I wouldn't trade being taller,

851
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: like I'm over six foot. I wouldn't trade being a

852
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: six foot of taller. I mean, but there's plenty of

853
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: small people on the planet, and if small people are

854
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: living longer, there's something to be envious.

855
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: But I'm good on this side.

856
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 7: You know what, Buck, I'm also good on this side.

857
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: You know, when I was a kid, like when I

858
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: was like in junior high school, I went to the

859
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: doctor for the check up, and I asked him if

860
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: anybody I could take shots, I could be a seventh footer.

861
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a seven footer really, So if

862
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: I was a seventh footer, I wouldn't be talking to

863
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: you guy. I'd be in the NBA. I would be

864
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: That's bad, I promise you. Why laughing? Why are you

865
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: guys laughing at me?

866
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 7: I've been though.

867
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Speaker 4: We're laughing with you, Andy. I personally wanted to be

868
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 4: six six six.

869
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Speaker 2: I want going to be seven feet.

870
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Speaker 4: I wanted to be kind of like Lebron James. I'd

871
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: just be like, that'd be cool. Just but WHOA, But

872
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: I digress.

873
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it'd be hard to find clothes Andy.

874
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 7: True, that's true. That's true. All right? So one more.

875
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: One hardcore England fan hopes to sell a house to

876
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 4: fund his World Cup trip this summer.

877
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 7: Would you do that? Buck?

878
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: No?

879
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: I mean I like World Cup, but not enough to

880
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: give it up for tickets. There's no sporting event that

881
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: I would give up a significant parts of my life

882
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: to go see. So I'm good it's gonna be broadcast

883
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: on TV or streamed.

884
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: I'll watch it there.

885
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: I want to meet that guy. Do you have his name?

886
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: Because I want to get a hold of him. He

887
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: needs a good psychiatrist. Really, sell your house for tickets

888
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: for the World Cup? Are you out of your freaking mind? Really?

889
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean, what you talking about fans being crazy? This

890
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: guy's is a lunatic. I don't get it. You know,

891
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: if you get a hundred people, I asked one hundred

892
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: people that question, doing you think? Like ninety nine would

893
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: laugh and say what are you talking about? I don't

894
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: get it. Who knows? But Bucky says one quarterback is

895
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: a perfect fit. That and more on Fox Sports Sunday,

896
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: right here coming up next, Oh, changing the landscape that's

897
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: coming right up. Good morning, everybody. It's Easter Sunday. Happy Easter,

898
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Happy Passover, have a family day for everybody, whatsoever. This

899
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Bucket Brooks and many Fermini

900
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Speaker 2: with broadcasting live from the Foxport Radio studios. And also

901
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902
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903
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904
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,640
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905
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,680
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906
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: even though you don't like, just search Fox Sports Radio

907
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Speaker 2: on YouTube and subscribe and away we go. Here's Bucky Brooks.

908
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: How you doing, buck Have a happy Easter to you

909
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: and your family.

910
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks so much, Andy, happy you said to all

911
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: of the people that celebrate. That's a great Sunday.

912
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: Yes it is. It's a wonderful Sunday. And basically, we

913
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 2: got the women's championship game today. And by the way,

914
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: just to let you know the kind of guy he is,

915
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: Travis Steele, the coach of Miami University of Ohio, who

916
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: was our guest. I think two weeks ago, he said

917
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: us a text thanking us for having him on as

918
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: a guest. That to me is a big deal.

919
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: You know.

920
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: You know the amount of people who guessed and he

921
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: asked people to do something, go out of their way,

922
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: and you don't usually get that kind of feedback. So

923
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: I just want to personally thank Travis Steele. Let the

924
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: public know the kind of guy he is not. The

925
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: good news. The bad news is I read this week

926
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: that two of his players have already entered the portal.

927
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: You know, I feel bad. You know what, though, if

928
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm Travis Steele and maybe this is really way out there,

929
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: I throw my nan out in the ring. Because what

930
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: he had this year was one of those dream seasons. Well,

931
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: I would have to guess that it may not happen again,

932
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: or it may not happen for a while.

933
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: No, probably not.

934
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: I mean, but you just don't know, Like in today's era,

935
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: you just don't know how people sustain it.

936
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Every year. You got to treat differently.

937
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: You can't assume that momentum means anything because you're gonna

938
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: have some movement. You have to rebuild and recreate your

939
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: team each and every year.

940
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: We'll see if he's able to do it.

941
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: Their success last this year doesn't guarantee success next year,

942
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: but it should give them an opportunity to get some

943
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 3: different recruits because of the attention they received. And people

944
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: will either view that as hey, that's great, that's a

945
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: step up for me. I want to be a part

946
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: of that, or this is be a great place for

947
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: me to go to use as a launch pad to

948
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 3: something even bigger and better.

949
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: That's the way it should be, But that's the way

950
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: it's not, because right now, what it's all about is

951
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: those two kids are in the portal. Let's think that

952
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: maybe they were getting one hundred grand if best at

953
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Miami and they put their name in the portal when

954
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: they could probably triple that. Maybe you got a half

955
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: a mill, maybe a million at another school.

956
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: You don't know.

957
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: That's what it's all about right now, and that's why

958
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: I guess we kind of touched on it in the

959
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: last hour. President Trump is obviously trying to change the

960
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: landscape of college athletics, which I don't even know why

961
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: he's involved with that, but I'll give you an example,

962
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: and this kind of made me crazy. It's about Iowa

963
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: State and the women's team. Okay, They lost to Syracuse

964
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: in the first round, all right, and it was kind

965
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: of a offbeat season. But now they have nine players

966
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: going into the transfer portal. I mean, come on, they

967
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: gotta start from scratch. I mean they start players out

968
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: there as well. I mean, what do you do if

969
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 2: you're a coach? Now? Are they leaving because they lost?

970
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: Are they leaving because they think they can get more money?

971
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: Are they leaving because they disliked the coach? I don't

972
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: know why, but I got to believe that these women

973
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 2: are that team banded together. It wasn't one individual city

974
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: and it just happened to have eight others do it.

975
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: They all got together, say you know what, let's bolt,

976
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: let's go. And maybe they're all going to go to

977
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: one program. I don't know, but to have nine and

978
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 2: one shots, I don't think it's good for the sport.

979
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot. I love the sport. I

980
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: love watching basketball, I love watching all sports. That's what

981
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: I do, and I do love it. But it has

982
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: changed so dramatically that I've got to sow a spot

983
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: in when I watch these games. We'll watch the men's game.

984
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: I can't even pronounce these players' names. They come from

985
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: countries I never heard of. All right, they never would

986
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: enter college here in our country if they didn't play basketball.

987
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: Is that fair? Is it right? I don't know. Are

988
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: they taking up a spot that a student who applied

989
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: couldn't get in? I don't know. I have a lot

990
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: of questions about the way the system works. Now. I

991
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: love the game. The game is great men and women.

992
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: But what's happening right now is it's got to be changed.

993
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: It's not right, and it's killing schools like Miami.

994
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: I'll say this, we operate in a capitalistic society. You

995
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: and I can be great on Fox Sports Radio. However,

996
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: if we're so great that another entity, say Serious, wanted

997
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: to come and poach us, and they wanted to pay

998
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: us significantly more money, Andy, you and I would have

999
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 3: to have a discussion on whether we want to pursue

1000
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: a greater opportunity.

1001
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: What is happening now is business and college.

1002
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: Sports and the amateurism ide. The amateurism narrative that we've been.

1003
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Sold is no longer true. It's not amateurism.

1004
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: This is business and people have to get used to

1005
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: it being big business. Even though I love student athletes

1006
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: and the opportunities for education, and I'm an advocate for education.

1007
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: Right now, college sports are business, and the people that

1008
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: are mad at the player of movement should be just

1009
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: as mad about coaches and athletic directors and everybody else

1010
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: who benefits from the things that happen on the field.

1011
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: To personally enrid themselves.

1012
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: We cannot be mad at the student athletes for taking

1013
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: advantage of the same opportunities that those above them have

1014
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: taken advantage of for years.

1015
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: And if we want.

1016
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: To squash it, then we have to quit hiding behind

1017
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: the facade of college sports being amateurism, this educational opportunity and.

1018
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: Treat it for what it is business.

1019
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: It is a billion dollar industry, and the students, the

1020
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: athletes have to be a part of the negotiating. So

1021
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: if you want to bring them to the table, call

1022
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: them employees, sign them to a collective bargaining agreement where

1023
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: we can set some terms in terms of what they

1024
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: can and cannot do. Cool, But right now colleges are

1025
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: reluctant to do that.

1026
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: So you cannot have your cake and eat it too.

1027
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: Well. I understand what you're saying, and I agree somewhat.

1028
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why we cannot use the term amateurism anymore.

1029
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 2: They're not amateurs, they're pros. They don't even have athletic

1030
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: there's a useless Now they have general managers. Now colleges

1031
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: have general managers to handle their budget. Okay, so the

1032
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 2: term student athlete is a misnomer. Don't call them student

1033
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: athletes anymore. And that's the problem I have. If you're

1034
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: running an institution, if you're running a college, the president

1035
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: of the college must be scratching his head every day saying,

1036
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: what do we have here? These kids are not I

1037
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: promise you that these kids will not get a degree.

1038
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: These kids are not going to class. I'm not one

1039
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: of those guys that pooh poohs that I get it.

1040
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: You know, I worked in college. I saw what happens

1041
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: when you're an athlete. It's tough. It's tough to manage

1042
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: both school work and practice, it really is. But right

1043
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: now it's gone to another level because it's not even

1044
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: a school anymore. It's a pro team where you wear

1045
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: the school's colors. That's what it is. And it's a joke. Really,

1046
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 2: you know, don't take up the room in the classroom.

1047
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: Then let them just go to the school. Let the

1048
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: school pay them to play and they represent the school.

1049
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: It's like a semi pro team. But don't take up

1050
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: school work or don't take up space in the classroom

1051
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: because they're not going to class anyway. They're not getting

1052
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: a degree and they're not going there to get a degree.

1053
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: When you transfer three or four times or five times,

1054
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: there's no way on God's green earth, you're going to

1055
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: get a degree. And I remember, and I've said this

1056
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: several times when I was going to college. If I

1057
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: want them to transfer from school, lay to school, be

1058
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: if I'm an athlete, you have to sit out a

1059
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 2: year and you're going to lose credits. That doesn't happen.

1060
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: Now, it doesn't happen. But if you're a regular student,

1061
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: you wouldn't lose credits. If you're a regular student, you

1062
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't lose a year of being able to go to

1063
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: the classroom. So why should the student athletes be penalized

1064
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: for transferring if as a regular student you could transfer.

1065
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: So what we're saying is, if you're a student.

1066
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: Athlete, everything is different for you because you're an athlete.

1067
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: It's either your students or your athletes. But you're not

1068
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 3: going to be both. And so if you want to

1069
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: treat them like athletes and young professionals, then you need

1070
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: to allow them to unionize, sit at the table and

1071
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: bargain with them because they have to be a part

1072
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: of it. The powers that be can't tell the athletes

1073
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: what they're doing without them having an opportunity to negotiate

1074
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: back what they're getting, whether it's terms, conditions, health care,

1075
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: or whatever. That has to be something that they're involved

1076
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: in and people that makes people uncomfortable because they've always

1077
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: been able to look at student athletes from eighteen to

1078
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: twenty two and we're just gonna tell them what to

1079
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: do and they don't have a say and take these

1080
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: peanuts on a dollar. That's not happening anymore. You have

1081
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: to pay the players. So if you're gonna pay them,

1082
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: you have to treat them like employees. But they're hiding

1083
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: behind the sham of oh, they're coming to college. They're

1084
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: doing all these things when it's not. So either make

1085
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: them students or make them athletes. But you're not gonna

1086
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: make them both.

1087
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, I have no problican than getting paid. They

1088
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: do a lot of things for the university. They increase enrollment,

1089
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: they increase selling swag, they increase exposure, They do a

1090
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: lot of things for the university. A lot of people

1091
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: would want to go to a school because the team

1092
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: is good. I get that, okay, so pay them back

1093
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: in the day. And I remember talking to Oscar Robertson

1094
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: about this. When Oscar lived in Cincinnati. We talk a

1095
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: lot because he used to hang out at the cigar

1096
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: shop downtown. I'd be down there, He'd hold court there

1097
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: every day, and he said that when he was playing,

1098
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: they gave them fifteen dollars a month, which is like

1099
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: money where you couldn't even go to the movies. But

1100
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: they pay them. Then, okay, so pay him now. I

1101
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: get it. But I want to have somewhat of an

1102
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: even playing field. If you want to pay him, that's okay.

1103
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: Have a cap, have a salary cap. On colleges, I

1104
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: don't see how Miami University can compete with UCLA. There's

1105
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: no way. I mean, the lums, the school itself, whatever

1106
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: it may be, they will not have the fortitude of

1107
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: the moneies to pay players like schools like UCLA or

1108
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: Michigan or Arizona or Connecticut, and they'll never be able

1109
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: to compete. I understand they never wor able to compete.

1110
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: But if you're going to change the format, if you're

1111
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: going to change the system, at least try to make

1112
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: the system somewhat balanced. That's all I'm saying.

1113
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you can balance it out. So here's what

1114
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: I would propose. When it comes to it, either you're

1115
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 3: all in or you're all out. So you have the

1116
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: powerful conferences who let's just say they're the big boys.

1117
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: Where the big boys have their own tournament, their own

1118
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: set of rules and regulations. Is because they're the big boys,

1119
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: they're paying the big money or whatever Miami and the

1120
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: little schools denied, the group of five as we call them,

1121
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: they have their own tournament, they have their own set

1122
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: of rules and regulations, and they don't intermingle. You have

1123
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: the Big Boy Championship, you have the Little Boy Championship,

1124
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: and we're okay.

1125
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: With that, and everyone knows exactly what it is.

1126
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: But once again, because you talk about having a cap,

1127
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: you can now create a salary cap and list negotiate

1128
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: with the players. And so if you want to balance

1129
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: things out, you're going to have to negotiate with the players.

1130
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: The problem that we're having.

1131
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 3: The schools and the powers that we don't want to

1132
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: involve the student athletes and their attorneys and the negotiation,

1133
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: so there's no conversation until you do that.

1134
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to dictate.

1135
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: The terms until you sit down across the table from

1136
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: them and negotiate.

1137
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: We're willing to give you this if you give.

1138
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: Us that and go back and forth until you can

1139
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: have balance, which is what you want. Everyone wants what

1140
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: they see in the National Football League. I want salary caps.

1141
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: I want this. Yes, because they're unionized and there's negotiations

1142
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: that take place between the union.

1143
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: And the owners.

1144
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: You have to do the same thing at the collegiate

1145
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: level if you want to bounce out. If not, it's

1146
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: going to continue to be the wild wild West, and

1147
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 3: you're going to continue to lose cases.

1148
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: In court because of it. That's the whole thing.

1149
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: They need to negotiate at a high level, and they

1150
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: need to treat it for what it is, a business.

1151
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: Well, I hear what you're saying, all right, you talking

1152
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: about having this separation of the big and the small.

1153
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: I hear that. It sounds great on paper, But if

1154
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm an athlete in high school being recruited, I didn't

1155
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: want to go to the so called smaller school. You know,

1156
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: if I'm a five star player, you know, I want

1157
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: to be able to compete with the big boys. I

1158
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: think that's what everybody wants to do. You didn't want

1159
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: to go to the so called smaller school. You want

1160
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: to go where the big boys play. You may not

1161
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: be as good as some of them, but I want

1162
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: to go to Miami. Why Because if I'm up Miami,

1163
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: I can't compete with Michigan. I can't play these schools

1164
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 2: in my schedule. That's why I want to go there.

1165
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: But you make this separation right there. You're separating almost

1166
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: good and great. He's good, but not good enough to

1167
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: play there. And I don't think people want that. But

1168
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 2: let's get back to what President Trump did. First of all,

1169
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: I have no idea why he's even involved with making

1170
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: an executive order for colleges. That's number one, So we'll

1171
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: stay off that deal. But he says the executive order

1172
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: says the university should provide for the ability to transfer

1173
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: one time during the five year eligibility period with immediate

1174
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: playing eligibility, and one additional such time if the student

1175
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: athlete obtains a four year degree. All right, and look,

1176
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: he said, the rule was previously deemed illegal in court.

1177
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: All right, these guys are transferring five times one time.

1178
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: To me, I think that's okay. I don't mind that.

1179
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: Some coaches agreed with that, and one of them was

1180
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: John Caler Parry. We mentioned that he went public with that.

1181
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: He did.

1182
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 3: But in the court of law it's been ruled illegal.

1183
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: Right Like in new quart of law they said that

1184
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: you can't put impose those restrictions on students because you

1185
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: can't impose those same restrictions on regular students.

1186
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: So if it's.

1187
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: Illegal in the court of law, then you need to

1188
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: figure out a way to make it legal. And the

1189
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 3: only way that people are going to make it legal

1190
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 3: is you're gonna have to sit down and get over

1191
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: this thing where you're trying to avoid anti trust exemptions

1192
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: and all of these things, and say, Okay, here's what

1193
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: it is. Let's call a spade a spade and get

1194
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: to it. But it even extends beyond that, because what

1195
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: you're seeing increasingly in the changing landscape of college and

1196
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: admissions in those things is you want certain things for

1197
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: the athletes, but not those same concessions and things done

1198
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 3: for the students, and so people have to make a

1199
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: decision as an institution.

1200
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: Either you're in the game or you're not in the game.

1201
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 3: If you want education based sports, cool, all you guys

1202
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 3: go over to the right and y'all have education based

1203
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: sports where you have scholarships to.

1204
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: Have those restrictions.

1205
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 3: If you want to play with the big boys play

1206
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: and you want part of the money and the TV

1207
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: and all of this stuff, well then you're going to

1208
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: hear the these set of rules.

1209
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: That's what it's going to end up being.

1210
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: And I know you talked to it previously about a

1211
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 3: we all aspire to be with big boys where everyone

1212
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 3: as far as the player in the National Football League,

1213
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: but some people have to play in the UFL, some

1214
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: people have to play in the CFL, some people have

1215
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: to go overseas and play.

1216
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Look, life ain't fair. Everyone can't do what they all

1217
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: want to do. That's just what it is.

1218
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: And so your talent will lead you to where the

1219
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: level that you should participate in, and then you make

1220
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: decisions based on your talent level.

1221
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 2: I got a question with this.

1222
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Edict.

1223
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: Basically, the president is where's the SCAA president Charlie Baker

1224
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: is how he's not involved? I don't know, why is

1225
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: Charlie Baker not involved in President Trump is things on

1226
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: his mind?

1227
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were involved. They had the commission come up.

1228
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: They all talked about and sat at the round able

1229
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: decide what was good, what was best for the players.

1230
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: But I didn't see any student representation there. They didn't

1231
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 3: ask the athletes what they wanted out of it. Once again,

1232
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: it's the powers that be telling the student athletes, this

1233
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: is what you're going to do. Nah, it's not a

1234
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 3: fair thing. If you're not going to treat the student

1235
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: athletes equally and give them a voice, is never going

1236
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: to work.

1237
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be what it's been for so long.

1238
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that benefited off of

1239
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: the work of the student athletes, and now that the

1240
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: student athletes can.

1241
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: Benefit off their own work, people are mad.

1242
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: Well, if you're taking care of some of these things

1243
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: way back when, you wouldn't have the situation now, So

1244
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 3: everyone got greedy and fat off of the.

1245
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: Labor when now you've got to pay the laborers.

1246
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: Right, I'll give you this, it's gonna change. It's changing

1247
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: right now, and there's a lot of people that can't

1248
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: handle change. Maybe I'm one of them. I don't know.

1249
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: All I know is this. I'm not that involved, but

1250
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 2: I've seen coaches basically leave the profession because they can't

1251
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 2: handle the change. I think Nick Saban quipped because of

1252
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: the deal. I think Jay Wright left basketball coaching Villanova

1253
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: because he didn't want to get involved with NIL. I

1254
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: really believe that. So, you know, eventually you're gonna weed

1255
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: out the ones that can't fight, can't handle it fighting it,

1256
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: and you're gonna get the new, younger breed that are

1257
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: are accustomed to it and they grew up with it,

1258
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: and they're gonna they're gonna work with it. You know that.

1259
00:56:59,440 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: This is it.

1260
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, So here's what I'm saying about all those

1261
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: old school coaches, right, all those old school coaches, Nick Saban,

1262
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: and I love Nick Saban. Nick Saban was making with

1263
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: ten fifteen million dollars a year coaching the players when

1264
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: the approaches were overplayed. It was fine for him to

1265
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: make a ton of money, but it's not fine for

1266
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: players to make money.

1267
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: So here's my thing.

1268
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: Everyone that's bitching and moaning about it, they all benefited

1269
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: from the system that was previously established. But now that

1270
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: the system has changing, Oh my god, I can't deal

1271
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: with this. Oh my god, I got into it. Well,

1272
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: so what did you get into coaching for, right, Did

1273
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: you get into coaching to educate and deal with young

1274
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: people or did you.

1275
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: Really get involved with it?

1276
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: Because I want to selfishly be okay, I'm okay.

1277
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: Making the money.

1278
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: I want them to do as I say, not as

1279
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: I do, because those same coaches they left. I saw

1280
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: Nick Saban leave in the middle of the night to

1281
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: go to the Miami Dolphins. I saw him go back

1282
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: from the Dolphins to Alabama making money, making more money.

1283
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1284
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: So, like, it's not fair for us to hold the

1285
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: student athletes to a higher standard than.

1286
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: We hold the higher people, the.

1287
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: Coaches and administrators and all the other people that are

1288
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: making money.

1289
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: It's not fair. It's not a fair system.

1290
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: I understand that, but I think it's hard for people

1291
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: and maybe for me as well at times when we

1292
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: considered these athletes amateurs. For years, they were considered amateurs,

1293
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: and they were considered quote student athletes and amaturs. Now

1294
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: they're professionals. They are, and it's okay, you know, but

1295
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: forget forget the student athlete moniker. They're not student athletes

1296
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: and more they're professionals, and maybe the schools need to,

1297
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: as I say, hire these guys, pay them. They don't

1298
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: want to be sitting the school and don't even go

1299
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: to class, just you know, play.

1300
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't want to because it costs more

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Speaker 3: money and it makes them get out of that falsehood,

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00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: that narrative that they were singing out there for years.

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Speaker 1: As a former.

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Speaker 3: Student athlete, it was never about a I'm just a

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00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: student and the athlete and those things like we were

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00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: worker bees and I understood it and I knew what

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: it was, and I graduated and I went to college.

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00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: I did all the things that were required of me,

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00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: Like that's cool. But it was never this thing that

1310
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: was painted out there about student athletes and whatever, because

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00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: there was a time where we couldn't get jobs and

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00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: we couldn't work during the year.

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00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: You couldn't have a job, like or your student athlete.

1314
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: You can't work. You're forbidden from working. Well if you

1315
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: don't come from.

1316
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: Certain situations where your family can provide you money to

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00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: take care of the miscellaneous stuff like yeah, we got

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00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,959
Speaker 3: training table, we got books, we had room and board

1319
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: in those things, but there are other things that you

1320
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: have to have money for where you couldn't do that.

1321
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: If you're not getting it from the football team and

1322
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: you can't work, what are you?

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00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: What are we doing? So that's all those things that

1324
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: are wrapped into it.

1325
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: And so like, we never should have had that narrative

1326
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: about student athletes.

1327
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: We should have called it what it was back then.

1328
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: And if we got away from that narrative and just

1329
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 3: really treated it like it was business, then everyone knows

1330
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 3: exactly what the terms and conditions are.

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Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, and honestly, I don't know

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00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: if there's a solution to this. I really don't. Because

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Speaker 2: back in the day, they were getting paid illegally under

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01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: the table. We know that there were bag men that

1335
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: would go out there and give these players money. Now

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: they're getting paid legally over the table. So let them

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Speaker 2: get paid. I understand that, But there are some people

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01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: that can't handle that can't handle the fact that they're

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01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: getting paid. And you know, I just it's different people.

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Speaker 2: Let's face it. People don't like change, That's what it's

1341
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 2: all about. I mean, there are some people who basically

1342
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: don't like whatever when things change, and things always change,

1343
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: all right, and they can't handle it. So what do

1344
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: you do you fight it or you leave. Some of

1345
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: these coaches left right, they did. They can't handle it.

1346
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: They didn't want to be involved with it.

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: They won't. But guess what, there are other coaches.

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: So I mean that's there always gonna be other people

1349
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: that be like, Okay, you don't want to do it,

1350
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: I'll do it. I'll take care of it. That's what

1351
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, change is hard. Change, It's hard for everybody.

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01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't like certain aspects of it, like I don't

1353
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: like seeing people bounce around and all that other stuff.

1354
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I recognize this is what

1355
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: it is. There's gonna be education based where you want

1356
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: the young people to get their their education, You want

1357
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 3: them to graduate, you want them to set themselves up

1358
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 3: for life that's better than what they have. Or you're

1359
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: going to treat it like business and play them like employees,

1360
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: just like everybody else when they go to a job.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on

1362
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: X at Bucket Brooks, not Andy Firman FSR or Love

1363
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Speaker 2: to Hear From You at eight seven seven ninety nine

1364
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: on Fox. That translates to eight seven seven nine ninety

1365
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: six sixty three, sixty nine. We've got yayo and a

1366
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: in this Now we got the blame game and nour

1367
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Speaker 2: number three. And by the way, we're broadcasting live from

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. But one league is making

1369
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: some changes. Tell you all about that next. All right,

1370
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: to tinker or not to tinker, that's the question, and

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Speaker 2: it's right around the corner. He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Firman.

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Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Of course,

1373
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and well

1374
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: have ya you na in about twelve minutes from now.

1375
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: So we get into this now, buck because once again

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Speaker 2: your pros is unbelievable. NFL dot Com. You had a

1377
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: great story this week, and I want to delve into

1378
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: a little bit NFL dot Com time every week, Bucket

1379
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: Brooks rights there, and it's tremendous, really is. And you

1380
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: said Kirk Cousins is the perfect fit as the quarterback

1381
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: for the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay, first I got to

1382
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 2: ask you this, How surprised are you that they even

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01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: sign him.

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised at all. I think this has been

1385
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: in the works for a long time. Gary, like kerri Qubit.

1386
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak had talked about how important it is to

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01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: have an adult, and I'm mature adult in the room

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: to teach a young quarterback how to go, how to

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 3: play the game, how to play the position, how to

1390
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Speaker 3: understand to be the face of the franchise in those things.

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01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: Tom Brady has talked about the lack of quarterback development

1392
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: in this league and how guys need to sit and earn,

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01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: learn and earn.

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01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: Their weight onto the field.

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01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 3: To me, this makes sense because Clint Kubiak certainly knows

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins going back to their days in Minnesota.

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01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: If you go back and look at the timeline.

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01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins' most productive years, his best years in football

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 3: had been when Clint Kubiak has been involved, first as

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01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: the quarterback coach, then as the offensive coordinator. Kirk Cousins

1401
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: had two Pro Bowl berths, He had his career high

1402
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: and touchdown passes and all those things during that time

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01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 3: in Minnesota when include Kubiak was there. So Kirk not

1404
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: only knows the system, he flourished in the system, so

1405
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 3: he can be an additional coach in the room. When

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01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: it comes to Fernando Mendoza. This gives Fernando time to

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: fully understand what he's stepping into as a pro to

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01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 3: be ready when he's fully ready to go, as opposed

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 3: to being rushed onto the field.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a great move by the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how long and how patient they can be.

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01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 3: But if they can go through the full year of

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Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza being the backup the Kirk Cousins while the

1414
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: team is still being competitive, to me, Fernando Mendoza is

1415
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: going to be a much better player as a result

1416
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: of this.

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01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I've read this as well that

1418
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: many personnel people of general managers and even coaches say

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01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: they don't like rushing a first year quarterback putting him

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Speaker 2: in the starting lineup. They wanted to sit on the

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Speaker 2: sidelines and learn. So I gotta believe right now, Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins was not there not only to groom Mendoza so

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: Mendoz can see what he does and how to be

1424
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Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback. They brought him in there to be

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01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback next year.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they did, And I think that's really important for

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01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: people to understand. I think it's really important for everyone

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01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: to have patience and understanding when it comes to that.

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01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: The one thing that happens when you draft a quarterback early,

1430
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: everyone is going to say, oh, well, you know, we

1431
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: need to make sure that we get them going and

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: get them on the clock right the clock of the

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Speaker 3: rookie contract.

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Speaker 1: Is easy to build a team, etcetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But the most important part is to put a player

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01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: out there that is ready to perform at a high level.

1437
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: And whenever Fernando Mendoza is ready, he'll have his opportunity.

1438
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: You sat there in Cincinnati and saw it where Carson Palmer,

1439
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 3: Carson Palmer set out that first season in two thousand

1440
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 3: and three, it will be in number one overall John Kitten.

1441
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 3: It was the starting quarterback then and they were six.

1442
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: That's true. The next year, Carson Palmer takes over. His

1443
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: second year.

1444
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: After that he leads the National Football League and touchdown passes.

1445
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: They go eleven and five and go into the playoffs.

1446
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: It works.

1447
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 3: It's worked for a lot of great quarterbacks, but most

1448
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 3: teams don't have the patients, and most teams don't have

1449
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 3: a fan base that's patient enough to wait for them

1450
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 3: to earned opportunity to get onto the field.

1451
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: So an opening day in Vegas, when Kirk Cousins is

1452
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: under center, there'll be a lot of booze and there'll

1453
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: be a lot of media speculation and questioning and a

1454
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: lot of negativity saying, wait a minute, why is it

1455
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: Mentoza playing right? That's exactly what's going to happen. They

1456
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: created a storyline for the media right now, not only

1457
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: locally in Vegas but nationally. But what they're doing is

1458
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: the right thing. Successful teams have always done that. Let

1459
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: the guy carry the clipboard for a year, learn the

1460
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: ropes of the NFL, and come in there with a

1461
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: little more confidence.

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01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what I should be. It should

1463
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 3: always be that. Let them earn their well into the field,

1464
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: let them learn how to do it. And because the president,

1465
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: and not the president, I would say, the minority owner,

1466
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, that's how he brought up and he is

1467
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 3: regarded as the goat, there will be more patients and

1468
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 3: discipline when it comes to that approach exhibited by the

1469
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 3: Raiders than any other team has done it because the

1470
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 3: top guy believes in that approach, and so that's why

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: they're going to hear to it.

1472
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: Okay, and by the way, speaking about that what they do,

1473
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: you you had a very interesting story, as I mentioned

1474
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: at NFL dot com, how various teams build their team,

1475
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: and you're comparing Seattle and the Patriots, the two Super

1476
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: Bowl teams, and how they did it, and talk a

1477
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: little bit about how the Seattle Seahawks built their team

1478
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: right now because there's some I guess there's some veterans,

1479
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 2: but also you know they messed them with some draft

1480
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: picks as well as opposed to what the Patriots did,

1481
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: because you said the Pagriots had a complete makeover.

1482
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I used the and the New England Patriots

1483
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: as examples because this is a COPYCEAD league teams will

1484
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 3: always look at the teams that win the Super Bowl

1485
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: and see what can we learn, what can we steal

1486
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 3: from their team building process. The Seattle Seahawks are a

1487
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: draft and developed team. They are homegrown team where they

1488
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 3: had a bunch of guys did they drafted, They let

1489
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: those young guys grow up, and then they supplemented them

1490
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: with some veterans in key spots and the team took

1491
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 3: off and.

1492
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: Became a champion.

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01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: The New England Patriots are a team that Mike Rabel

1494
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: takes over a downtrodden franchise. He's like, hey, I got

1495
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 3: to figure out how to change the culture. I need

1496
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 3: to get some winners in here, some veterans winning pedigrees

1497
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: to help my young guys learn how to compete at

1498
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 3: a high level. I used two teams as examples of

1499
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 3: teams that could have success following those respective strategies. One

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01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 3: with the Denver Broncos, who stood pat They made one deal.

1501
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 3: They got Jalen Waddle, they re signed their own players,

1502
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 3: Alex Singleton and a couple of other guys, and they're

1503
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: going to run it back after going to the AFC

1504
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 3: Championship Game.

1505
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the New.

1506
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 3: York Jets were struggling in their first shiar under Aaron Glynn.

1507
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: They jettison some of the guys that went to the

1508
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: locker room who may not have been deemed to be

1509
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 3: cultural fits, and they brought in veterans with winning pedigrees,

1510
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: veterans who knew Aaron Glenn and how he wants to

1511
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 3: operate things, veterans who've been part of winning organizations, to

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01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 3: help them learn how to win at a high level.

1513
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 3: And so we'll see how it plays out for both teams.

1514
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,440
Speaker 3: But two teams that distinctly followed successful blueprints.

1515
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: They were established by the teams that were in Super

1516
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: Bowl sixty.

1517
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: You know, after I read that, the light went off,

1518
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: Not that I even have a light in my brain,

1519
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: but the light did go off, and I said, wait

1520
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 2: a second. That's why it makes it so difficult when

1521
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: a general manager and or a coach is fired, because

1522
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: they're coming in there following someone else's plan. They want

1523
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 2: to start their own plan. That's why I think a

1524
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: lot of ball clubs would stick with a GM or

1525
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: coach a little longer because they want to see if

1526
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: their plan is working. Am I correct on that? Because

1527
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Denver. You mentioned the Denver Broncos. They

1528
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,480
Speaker 2: started with a new slate. They got bow Nicks a quarterback,

1529
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: but they did bring in a veteran on offense this year.

1530
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: They traded for Jalen Wattle, Who's going to really help

1531
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: on the offensive start of the football. You know, you

1532
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: got to leave that plan in tact right now. You know,

1533
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's he knows what he's doing and he's got

1534
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: things rolling along right now. They're going to be a

1535
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender next year.

1536
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be a Super Bowl contender, and they'll

1537
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 3: they'll continue to be a team that is in the mix.

1538
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: What is interesting about the Broncos is bringing Jalen Wattle over.

1539
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Watter talked about I don't know if I'm a

1540
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: Number one or whatever. My job is just to be

1541
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: a contributor on the team. And when you're bringing that over,

1542
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 3: you bringing an explosive playmaker, a big play machine, someone

1543
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 3: that can compliment. But they have in Courtland Sutton and

1544
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 3: Marvin Mahams and some of the other players that are

1545
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 3: on the perimeter. But this gives bowl Knicks another weapon.

1546
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 3: And we talked about rookie contracts and those things. Bow

1547
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: Knicks on the rookie contract, it's easier to put high

1548
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: priced players around him until he has to come up

1549
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: and sign his deal. But we have seen Sean Payton's

1550
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 3: done a great job bringing Broncos back. They're being smart

1551
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: with their money. They're trying to make prudent decisions that

1552
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: work for the overall health and development of the team.

1553
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: I like the direction of the Broncos. I like where

1554
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: they're going. I like how they're building their squad.

1555
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the New York football giants right now?

1556
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 2: What kind of direction are they going in? Because they

1557
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: got young guys coming in there and a kind of

1558
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: the young running back situations they have there. Now, all

1559
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the rumors are they're going to try

1560
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: to get O'Dell Beckham Junior, who wants to come back

1561
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: in football. I think that would upset the Apple card.

1562
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: I understand he played there somewhat of a fan favorite.

1563
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: You can't do that. I mean, he's been there, done that.

1564
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's got left in the tank anyway,

1565
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: because he was injured, didn't play last year. Why would

1566
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: you even consider bring Odell Beckham Junior back? Besides maybe

1567
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: selling tickets, but they're sold out anyway.

1568
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: It's a no risk proposition.

1569
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: The reason why there's no risk involve is because John

1570
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: Harbard knows the player. He knows Odell Beckham Junior. He

1571
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 3: knows where he is at this state of his career.

1572
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 3: He had him in Baltimore and he was a fairly

1573
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: solid and true for him in Baltimore. Bringing him back

1574
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 3: to New York is certainly nostalgic in terms of ay.

1575
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: He had his best years in New York, and I

1576
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 3: would say that Odell Beckham has grown from the experience.

1577
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 3: I would say he made some missteps at the end

1578
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: of his New York Giants tenure. I would say that

1579
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 3: the Giants probably recognized and wish they had a greater

1580
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: appreciation for him back then.

1581
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: And maybe they can get it together.

1582
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 3: A lot of times these things don't work the way

1583
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: that we want them to, but I don't mind them

1584
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: kicking the tires on it. I think it's very important though.

1585
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: John Harby has to be very clear with Odell Beckham Jr.

1586
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: In terms of what his role is going to be,

1587
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: which I would imagine would be to be the number

1588
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 3: three receiver, to be the number four receiver, someone that

1589
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 3: can come in and their subpackages to help their young

1590
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 3: guys be leak daghbers and whoever else they have on

1591
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: the perimeter grow in their respective roles. Because those young

1592
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: guys look up to Odell, it's important that John Harby

1593
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: knows Odell make sure you set good examples on and

1594
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 3: off the field in terms of showing.

1595
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 1: These guys how to be pros.

1596
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: If he does that, yeah, it'd be a great move,

1597
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 3: But a lot of it depends on how Odell handles

1598
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: the situation.

1599
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: And how productive he is when he gets his opportunities.

1600
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about that other team out of

1601
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 2: New York, the New York Jets. They don't even know

1602
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: what the playoff is. They haven't seen it neons. Okay,

1603
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: they have a second year coach, Aaron Glenn who claims

1604
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: there's gonna be like a total makeover. Okay, I get it,

1605
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, say one thing, But can you stigle what

1606
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: you say, because how do you have a total makeover

1607
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 2: when you're bringing Geno Smith back the quarterback? I don't

1608
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 2: get it. He's been there, done that that. When they

1609
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: bring in Geno Smith again, I don't see any hope

1610
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: for that franchise. Again.

1611
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: Well, they brought Geno win because Gino is a two

1612
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 3: time Pro Bowler. Gino was the best option available for

1613
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 3: them because if not in the draft, is not a

1614
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna be a ready made option that could

1615
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 3: go on the field and help them win games. Aaron

1616
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: Glenn has to win games right now. He would rather

1617
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 3: try a veteran in Geno Smith, who has been who's

1618
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: proven that he understands how to win and has played

1619
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 3: at a higher level at times throughout his career. Now,

1620
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 3: the risk is you may not be good enough around him,

1621
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: particularly with Geno coming off a bad year a lot

1622
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: of interceptions in Las Vegas.

1623
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: Can he settle in But if you have him playing at.

1624
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 3: His best like he did in Seattle, where he was

1625
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: a good leader for that team at times, and he

1626
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: did do a good job of leading to young guys,

1627
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: and he took a team that wasn't expected to provide

1628
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: for a playoff birth and got him into the playoffs.

1629
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 3: Can he rekindle some of that magic in New York?

1630
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 3: That remains to be seen.

1631
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: But I understand why Aaron Glenn wanted a veteran. They

1632
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: have to win. He knows he has to win.

1633
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 3: The leash on him is fairly short when it comes

1634
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 3: to the patience of New York jests fans. He has

1635
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: to find a way to win, and they got to

1636
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: find a way to be competitive. Gino Smith might give

1637
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 3: them a chance to be competitive.

1638
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a quick question. I've never asked

1639
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 2: you this question before, but I think it's rather important. Okay,

1640
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,919
Speaker 2: you talk about fans when it comes to like August,

1641
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: when preseason starts, they got the drafts for their fantasy

1642
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: football deals. All the fans are excited to salivating the picking.

1643
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: They're looking to the schedule, they're picking wins and losses.

1644
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: When you're a player and preseason starts, is it the

1645
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: same feeling that the same euphoria that you get like

1646
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: looking at the schedules saying, hey, we should win this game,

1647
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: this game, the same war. If you're on the jeedge,

1648
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 2: just say, oh my goodness, we're back here again, same faces.

1649
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,919
Speaker 2: We're not going to go anywhere. Is that the situation?

1650
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: What is it like when they get the training camp?

1651
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: Is it upbeat saying we're going to go to the

1652
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 2: super Bowl? Or same old, same old? How does that work?

1653
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 3: For the most part, I would think it's upbeat and optimistic.

1654
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: What we have seen and what coaches can do is

1655
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm Aaron Glenn, I'm any coach. I can point to

1656
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: the New England Pagers and say, look, they were one

1657
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 3: of the worst teams in football the next year and

1658
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: then the Super Bowl?

1659
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: Why not us?

1660
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 3: If we commit to doing the things that we believe in,

1661
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 3: we stick to these core values and principles that we're

1662
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 3: talking about, we get the level of execution that we want.

1663
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: There's no reason why we can't be right there at

1664
01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl sixty one.

1665
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: Let's get to work. So there's a lot of optimism.

1666
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 3: You're trying to build a new chemistry because no matter what,

1667
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 3: the team is always different despite the success. When you

1668
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: bring new people in, new people get elevated, other people

1669
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 3: to part.

1670
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: It's a brand new team. So you got to re

1671
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: establish who you are.

1672
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: Coaches got to re establish what they believe in and

1673
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 3: then go about it. But yeah, no, there's always optimism

1674
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 3: at this time of year because everyone's sitting at the

1675
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: same place, zero and zero with seventeen games to prove

1676
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 3: that they're worthy of being playoff contenders.

1677
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: And we certainly see that over the less several years

1678
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 2: with the Detroit Lions and Chicago Bears. I mean, that's

1679
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: a heck of a job those coaches did turning the

1680
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: so called culture around because they were losing franchises and

1681
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: they got them to win. Because I'm sure there was

1682
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 2: some place saying, oh here we go again. But they

1683
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: did it, you know, the coaching. The coaching did it.

1684
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: That's what it did, all right. All right, He's Bucket

1685
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy Firman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on

1686
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Ready, it's a two way street. It's yay

1687
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: or ay and it's coming up next yea na, coming

1688
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: right up. It's about eleven minutes before the top of

1689
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: the hour. This is Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

1690
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy FURMANLI for the Fox Sports

1691
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: Radio studios. And it's time right now. It's time right

1692
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 2: now for you in.

1693
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 5: A little rock those brains, gentlemen, These stories need an ass.

1694
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: I think we need a ruling on this.

1695
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 2: It's yay or nay.

1696
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm ready and he is sound to play yay ornay.

1697
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 4: I say, so, let's can't do it, guys, here's one

1698
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,480
Speaker 4: for us. So Sugar the Surfing Dog, the first canine,

1699
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 4: is inducted into the Surfers Hall of Fame, who spent

1700
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 4: her days outside the water comforting veterans as a dedicated

1701
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 4: therapy dog. Oh she died last week after battling cancer.

1702
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 4: A Hall of Famer.

1703
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 7: Yeah or nay.

1704
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 4: And if you don't say nay, I'm gonna be mad

1705
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: at whoever says nay on this.

1706
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 7: Yeah your nay, Andy? What do you think?

1707
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: I say? Yeah? She should be.

1708
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 7: Old, better better be.

1709
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: Because I mean I was gonna say, well, she never surfed,

1710
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: but after what she did comforting veterans. You really gotta

1711
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: be a a pig to say nay on this, really,

1712
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna say that they clicked. Maybe I

1713
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: don't know.

1714
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna say no. I'm not gonna say nay.

1715
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: I'm not a pig. So I'm gonna go with it.

1716
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good to go on.

1717
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 2: Get the node had a surface hall of fame?

1718
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: Did you me?

1719
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 7: Neither?

1720
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: No? I did not either.

1721
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: Guntsurfing, little dump, or have you ever gunt surfing?

1722
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 7: I tried and fell.

1723
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 4: I literally I tried for two seconds and then fell

1724
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 4: off the board, hit my ankle, and I stopped.

1725
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 7: And I'm like, I'm about you a book.

1726
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: People go surfing.

1727
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: No, I've never been a surfer, never been.

1728
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: I can't, so I slip in the shower. I'm not

1729
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: gonna go so.

1730
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 7: Me too.

1731
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: All right?

1732
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 7: Next up here, guys, come in.

1733
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 4: A bottle of wine from nineteen forty five sells for

1734
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 4: a record breaking eight hundred thousand and eight hundred twelve thousand.

1735
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 4: That's I'm sorry, I'm bad with reading numbers for price wise.

1736
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 7: Either way, it's eight hundred thousand dollars.

1737
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: You read your paycheck money.

1738
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 4: Anyways, it sold for over eight hundred thousand guys, the

1739
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 4: most expensive beverage ever sold at an auction. The previous

1740
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 4: most expensive bottle of wine sold at an auction was

1741
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: at at five hundred thousand or over five hundred thousand.

1742
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 4: It was in a twenty eighteen. It was a nineteen

1743
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:26,520
Speaker 4: forty five Romani CONTI yay or nay on this, Bucky.

1744
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: That it'd be a nay. There's no way I would

1745
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: ever pay for any of that. I am good on

1746
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: all of that.

1747
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't pay eight hundred thousand dollars for just about anything,

1748
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: let alone a bottle of wine. What do you out

1749
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: of your mind? I mean, this must be the same

1750
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: person that's gonna sell this house for the World Cup

1751
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: tickets in England, right, But it's the same person, you know.

1752
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 2: I Sometimes people have money and it's great. I don't

1753
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: envy whatever, but you know, sometimes you have too much

1754
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 2: in a know able to do with it. Give it

1755
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: to charity, you can feed people on the street, give

1756
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 2: it away.

1757
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's fair, that's would I wouldn't buy it either.

1758
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 4: If I had that money, Boy howdy, I'd be paying

1759
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 4: for more than just one to tell you.

1760
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: What, go to a shelter and feed people that you

1761
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: know do something good?

1762
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: Correct? Correct?

1763
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 4: But oh ask we don't have that money right now. Anyways,

1764
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 4: let's move on to the next. A lifelong athlete from

1765
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 4: Ohio broke a Guinness World Record by holding a dead

1766
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 4: hang position for nearly three minutes at the Wow at

1767
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 4: the age of ninety. Yeah or nay? Andy, I say nate.

1768
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 2: Because I don't think I could have done it at

1769
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 2: the age of nine. The age of ninety, I don't know.

1770
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: Maybe a dead hank position.

1771
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1772
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: It's nay because you know, sometimes people just go to

1773
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 2: the Guinness Book of Records, see what could I do

1774
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: to break at the get in the book? You know,

1775
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 2: So it's nay. No, God bless him though he is

1776
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 2: ninety years old.

1777
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 3: Geez, yeah, that's great. Ninet years old. That's unbelievable. That

1778
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: would not be on my Bengo car.

1779
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 4: But have all right, Final one guys, Superbowl, Uh guess

1780
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 4: cyril Lex opponent Seahawks and Patriots will be the next

1781
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 4: two teams on HBO's Hard Knocks.

1782
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 7: Yeah your nay on this, Bucky?

1783
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

1784
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: I love it.

1785
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean, everyone wants to see how the sausage is made.

1786
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 3: And both of those teams have been Super Bowl participants.

1787
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: Let's watch them.

1788
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: I say yeah, because I like Mike Rabel. But you

1789
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 2: know what, I think that Hard Knocks has run his course.

1790
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: I really do, you know, been there, done that, and

1791
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: then I got the inn season Hard Knocks. That's enough.

1792
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: I mean it was great at the beginning. Right now,

1793
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: I mean that I don't know, we'll see ab. I'll

1794
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 2: watch it to no doubt my mind, but you'll never

1795
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 2: guess who's one of the least richest players. That and

1796
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: more on Fox Sports Sunday coming up, Mack, Well, how

1797
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: do both these teams get so good? That's right around

1798
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: the corner. Good morning on an Easter Sunday. This is

1799
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks

1800
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: on Andy Ferman. And be sure to subscribe to the

1801
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1802
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: on YouTube and you'll see our best videos from all

1803
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: of our show. And don't stop there. Hit that thumbs

1804
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 2: up icon and comment. The way let us know whose

1805
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: taste you like and even whose takes you don't like.

1806
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and subscribe. And

1807
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: the way we go his demand. I would suggest that

1808
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: if you're interested in football, he's the mand There's no

1809
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: one better. And still at all, I'm waiting for the

1810
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: competition for the draft Master, the so called draftmaster being

1811
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks, and I won't mention his name. I don't

1812
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 2: want to. He's not worth it. But Bucky, have you

1813
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 2: heard anything yet, because I'm gonna push that pretty good

1814
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: between you and he.

1815
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: Uh No, I haven't heard anything.

1816
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 3: And I'm good on competing with him, like that's not

1817
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 3: what it is.

1818
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: That's not what it is. I am good to go

1819
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: over here on this side.

1820
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 2: Any I'm gonna try my best. I'll see what I can.

1821
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stir some stuff up anyway. Tomorrow is the

1822
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: championship game of the NCAA Men's Tournament University of Connecticut Michigan.

1823
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 2: And right now I'm looking at them, and we got

1824
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 2: size on both teams, and I think it's gonna be

1825
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,879
Speaker 2: tough right now for Connecticut to combat the Michigan size.

1826
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: They got a terrorist reed junior, they got some guard

1827
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: play in solo ball in last Emery Junior. I think

1828
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 2: what they have up their sleeve, I guess is Dan

1829
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: Hurley and his I guess his playbook and how he's

1830
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: going to come back the size of Michigan, because right

1831
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: now I haven't looked. I don't bet I haven't looked.

1832
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: With the odds are maybe someone over there has, maybe

1833
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: Little Dumper has, I would assume Michigan's the favorite to

1834
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 2: win that game tomorrow.

1835
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 3: I mean I would assume so, like I would assume

1836
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,839
Speaker 3: that Michigan is a favorite, like coming in or whatever,

1837
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 3: like one their number one seed.

1838
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: Yukon wasn't, so I would think that they would be

1839
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a favorite.

1840
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 3: I think this stuff because Yukon's experience and because they've

1841
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 3: been there.

1842
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: This is the third time in four years. Danny Hurley

1843
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: has certainly been on a historic run.

1844
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 3: Why not make Yukon the favorite just based on the

1845
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 3: tradition in those things.

1846
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:54,839
Speaker 1: But we'll see, We'll see how it goes.

1847
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: All right. I mean, I'll be interested in watching it,

1848
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: for sure. I don't really have a rooting interest, but

1849
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm a big and maybe I'll push for the Big East.

1850
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: But Michigan would be great because I kind of I

1851
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 2: don't This is really stupid, I know, but I'm not

1852
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: a big fan of the Ohio State fans all right,

1853
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 2: I think they're just yeah, the word I'm looking for

1854
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: just I don't even want to say it, you know,

1855
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 2: but you know, burning couches on the street on High

1856
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 2: Street and Columbus when they win it just it's not

1857
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: my style. So and Michigan really has socked it to

1858
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: him the last several years, not this past year. So

1859
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing Michigan win that game. But again,

1860
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 2: I'll watch it for the enjoyment when no rooting inches,

1861
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: no betting interes. But I asked the question, what makes

1862
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: at least we're looking at the Connecticut team whist that

1863
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: kind of used to going to the farns, what makes

1864
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: them so good? And earlier today we said that connecticutd

1865
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: spent more than thirty four million on its men's and

1866
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 2: women's basketball teams and only twenty something million on their

1867
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 2: football team. So basically, they've made a comit for basketball

1868
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: and the money is okay. But I think the University

1869
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 2: of Kentucky spent fifty million on their basketball team and

1870
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna do what you and I are going to

1871
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: do tomorrow watch it on TV. They're not going to

1872
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: be there. So it's not only money.

1873
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 3: No, I think people want to equate there, right, Hey,

1874
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 3: just throw the bag at a bunch of players and

1875
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 3: you get the most talent you can put it together.

1876
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 3: There are two parts of the business, right there's player acquisition,

1877
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 3: then there's player and team development. What you pay to

1878
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: acquire the players doesn't necessarily matter when it comes to

1879
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 3: how you develop the team. Yes, you paid the costs

1880
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 3: to get the to most talented players, but then the

1881
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 3: coaches have to figure out how to develop those players

1882
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 3: individually and get them to play within the framework of

1883
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: the team. Money doesn't have anything to do with getting

1884
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 3: them to play within the framework of the team. So

1885
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 3: coaches have to be able to total line when it

1886
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 3: comes to being like great recruiters or great solicitors of

1887
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 3: the program with also being great stewards of the program,

1888
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 3: making sure that everyone that comes in there understands what

1889
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 3: the expectations and standards are they continue to build a team.

1890
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this.

1891
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: In spite of the tread's actional nature of college sports,

1892
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 3: you still have to have a transformative impact on the players.

1893
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: That means that you have to be.

1894
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 3: Invested in relationship building, invested in helping them grow as

1895
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,520
Speaker 3: young people. Helping them become the best versions of themselves.

1896
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 3: Even though you're exchanging money and it feels like professional sports,

1897
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 3: there still has to be a bit of a high

1898
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 3: school element too.

1899
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: I want the best for you.

1900
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you how to be better on and

1901
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: off the court, and in doing that, we're going to

1902
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: get a better product on the court. It's easier said

1903
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 3: than done, but that's the only way you can be

1904
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 3: able to win consistently at this level.

1905
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: Now, you know you're talking about the level of I remember,

1906
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: I think it was last year. It wasn't. Dan Hurley

1907
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 2: courted by the Lakers with it two years ago and

1908
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 2: he turned them down, which to me shows the fact

1909
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 2: that he is a college guy through and through. He

1910
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: likes working with the young kids, he likes the college game,

1911
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: and he's adapted to the NIL where guys like in

1912
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: football Nick Saban and basketball Jay Wright just bolted and

1913
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 2: left because I think they left and rather well, not Saban,

1914
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: but right at somewhat of a younger age, because they

1915
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: just couldn't handle it. They just didn't want to get

1916
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 2: involved with the NIL and the alums and the payments.

1917
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 2: But you know, Hurley did, and then you got a

1918
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: guy like Billy Donovan who basically is not really having

1919
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: tremendous success as coach of the Chicago Bulls. He's been

1920
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: on a short list. I guess for your school North Carolina,

1921
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: the coach, he's not gonna do it. I mean, he

1922
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: doesn't want to get involved in that situation. He really won't,

1923
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: And they'll stay in Chicago because really and truly, the

1924
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: grind of travel is a pain. But you don't have

1925
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: to worry about alums or nil and things like that.

1926
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: I mean that that is very true.

1927
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about those things, and that

1928
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 3: gives them they do a little bit.

1929
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: Everything has its own issues.

1930
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 3: Right in the pros they talk about the young generation

1931
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 3: coming up, how you can't coach them hard in those things.

1932
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 1: College requires you to operate differently.

1933
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, if you want to

1934
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: be successful, you're gonna do what needs to be done

1935
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 3: to succeed. So for Benny, Billy Donovan, or any other

1936
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 3: coach that is coaching at an elite school, you gotta

1937
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 3: be willing to do what's required, and it's going to

1938
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 3: be required that you have to get on planes and

1939
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: private jests and recruit and soliciting those things and still

1940
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 3: develop a new team each and every year, because that's

1941
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 3: the job. And you got to buy someone who is

1942
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 3: still willing to do that job in today's climate.

1943
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Right And you talked about salaries right now. Dan Hurley

1944
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: signed an extension in twenty twenty four worth fifty million

1945
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: dollars over six years, which comes out to like eight

1946
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: point three million a year, and I'm sure he's going

1947
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: to get somewhat of a bonus. Now. Then I think

1948
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: that they get bonuses when they win tournaments and championships,

1949
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. So foragetting to the Final four,

1950
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: Dane Hurley has already earned the guaranteed two hundred and

1951
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. If the Huskies win the national title

1952
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, he will learn an additional two hundred and

1953
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. It's not bad, all right. And again

1954
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:17,560
Speaker 2: I say money is great, and Hurley's maximum potential postseason

1955
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: results bonus is six hundred thousand dollars, so if he

1956
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 2: wins tomorrow night, totally the whole package will be six

1957
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,879
Speaker 2: hundred thousand. But you know, money is great and it's wonderful,

1958
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: but you want to be comfortable, happy and be able

1959
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 2: to run your program. And I think that when you're

1960
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 2: a college coach, you're basically your own boss, right, aren't

1961
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: you running your own program? To worry about a general manager?

1962
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes you do, I guess to handle the nil mudget.

1963
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 2: The budget's there, but it's not like in the NBA.

1964
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: There's so many layers in the NBA ownership, whatever it

1965
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: may be. He's his own boss. I would believe that.

1966
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: And with the success he's had, I don't think he

1967
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 2: has to answer anybody. The athletic, the art there is

1968
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: a figurehead. I don't think the athletic theret that tells

1969
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley what to do. And I'm sure Dan Hurley

1970
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: makes out his own schedule.

1971
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but he still has to.

1972
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 3: Look, he still has to answer to somebody, So he

1973
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 3: still has to answer to the ad. He still has

1974
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 3: to answer for those things. But yeah, when you've won

1975
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 3: to the level that he's won, he has more say

1976
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 3: in how things are going to go. So the eight

1977
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 3: can make suggestions. Dan Hurley is still gonna make the decisions.

1978
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the more you win, the more power you have.

1979
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 2: I mean, curse Signetti and Indiana basically is his own

1980
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: man too. Now I mean he wasn't when he came in.

1981
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,959
Speaker 2: But what he's done right now with the contract extension,

1982
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 2: you know, he could call his own shots. And I'm

1983
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: sure that I've been maybe at least one NFL team

1984
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 2: maybe called to see why would he go? He's his

1985
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: old man over there. So I think right now, what

1986
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,759
Speaker 2: colleges have done, I think it's heard the far system,

1987
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: so to speak, of getting coaches at the next level.

1988
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 2: You'd rather stay in college, right, Yeah.

1989
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: Well wouldn't you.

1990
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you have the opportunity to run your own program,

1991
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 3: to do what you want to do, to do it how.

1992
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: You want it done. Why wouldn't you want to take

1993
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: advantage of that?

1994
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 3: And I think more coaches realize that and as more

1995
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 3: people adapt to this new way of doing things. At

1996
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 3: a collegiate level, there's a lot of power, there's a

1997
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 3: lot of say, there's a lot of money in the

1998
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 3: collegiate game. You just have to be willing to adapt

1999
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: and meet the new generation of players where they are

2000
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 3: while also navigating all the things behind the scenes when

2001
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 3: it comes to boosters, administrators and such to run the

2002
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 3: kind of program that you want to run.

2003
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: Right.

2004
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: I want to get back to the NFL a little

2005
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 2: bit because something happened this past week with the Competition

2006
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 2: Committee and they approve five rule changes which I don't

2007
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: know and maybe you could expand on them for me.

2008
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know all about that. They approve five

2009
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 2: rule changes for the season of twenty twenty six at

2010
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: their annual meeting this week. And you know, I don't

2011
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: understand why. And I said coming into the segment, should

2012
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: they tinker or not tinker a before we get into

2013
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 2: the rules. Why would they want to change things just

2014
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 2: for the sake of changing the more or are they

2015
01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: worthwhile changes?

2016
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, Look, it's about always making sure

2017
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: you grow the brand and you clear up the things

2018
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 3: that may have been in the great area. Ultimately, we

2019
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 3: want the league to be the best version of the

2020
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 3: league that we can put. We want a very competitive

2021
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 3: product each and every week.

2022
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 1: We want to make.

2023
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 3: Sure that the players are protected, We want to make

2024
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 3: sure that the teams are operating on a level playing field,

2025
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 3: and we.

2026
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 1: Want to have fun. We wanted to be an enjoyable

2027
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: league for the fans to watch.

2028
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 3: So sometimes it requires you tiking and adapting and adjusting

2029
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 3: rules to ensure that those things are possible. But look,

2030
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 3: nothing significant, nothing that is going to revolutionize the game,

2031
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 3: but little things to make it better.

2032
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 2: Okay. The owners apparently passed the proposal to allow league

2033
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: personnel to consult with on field officials when considering disqualifications

2034
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 2: for flagrant football acts and non football acts without being

2035
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 2: called onto the field. Okay, So I said to myself,

2036
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 2: why would they do this? But if the rules in

2037
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 2: place last year, it would have been some punishment immediately

2038
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 2: in game about the Pittsburgh Steelers receive a dk metcalp

2039
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 2: because remember he went to the stands I think after

2040
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 2: with the suspension of two games. But then you go

2041
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 2: into the stands in the Detroit Lions game or something

2042
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: like that, whatever, So that would have been something that

2043
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 2: is I don't know why to have to changed the

2044
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 2: rule on that, just just make a decision right then

2045
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 2: and there. So thought that I don't understand whatsoever, Bet,

2046
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: But like.

2047
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 3: You want to have you want to have protocols in place, right,

2048
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 3: so you want to put a rule down so everyone

2049
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 3: if this situation comes up again, here's how we handle it.

2050
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: As black or white.

2051
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 3: You can communicate it to the players, the teams can

2052
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 3: communicate it to the personnel involved including security, so everyone

2053
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 3: knows exactly how we going to handle that. You don't

2054
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 3: want things to fall in the cracks. And it appeared

2055
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: that situation was very loosey goosey. They were saying uncertainty

2056
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 3: about it. So let's clean it up. Let's make sure

2057
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 3: we give everyone direction so you know what the rules

2058
01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 3: and how we're gona handle it.

2059
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 2: Okay, he's a rule they passed to permit the kicking

2060
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 2: team to declare an on site kick at any time

2061
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 2: during the game. Okay, because this is a change because

2062
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 2: only losing teams could have tempted on side kicks last year.

2063
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: All right, so why would you want to kick an

2064
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: onside kick if you're a winning team. I'm confused. To

2065
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 2: help me out you with.

2066
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 3: This, Well, it's just once again, it's cleaning it up

2067
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 3: because the rules made it where you had to declare

2068
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,560
Speaker 3: you were only the losing team. So from a tactical standpoint,

2069
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 3: it just made it like really easy for people to

2070
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 3: know what it is. They're trying to add more balance

2071
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 3: to the game, and so this is part of it.

2072
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 3: It is rare that a winning team would decide to

2073
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 3: take advantage of it. But let's just say there's a

2074
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 3: penalty after a touchdown, the ball now goes from being

2075
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 3: kicked off whatever to now closer to midfield, rather than

2076
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 3: kick it to and through the end zone. Maybe we

2077
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 3: want to gamble and see if we can get an

2078
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 3: extra possession by kicking an onside kick. It just gives

2079
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 3: you more options when it comes to strategies than you

2080
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 3: have before.

2081
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it now, I understand. Okay, you're clear

2082
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 2: enough of me. Eliminate the kicking team's incentive to intentionally

2083
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 2: kick the ball out of bounds when kicking off from

2084
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 2: the fifty yard line, all right, And it says over here,

2085
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 2: I've to find this out here that Dallas tried to

2086
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 2: take advantage of this loophole last year against the Chiefs

2087
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 2: by intentionally kicking the ball out of bounds to pin

2088
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 2: the Chiefs at they're on twenty five yard line. So

2089
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 2: now they can't do that anymore. I get that one.

2090
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like there's some things because if you

2091
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: leave rules loose and.

2092
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 3: Not fully buttoned up, there's always someone that is willing

2093
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 3: to exploit those loopholes. And they wanted to make sure

2094
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: that hey, even though the ball is placed at the fifty,

2095
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 3: we want to continue to have like either you kick

2096
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 3: it to the end zone and you have to suffer

2097
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 3: the penalty and the consequence of the touch back, or

2098
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 3: you have to kick it short and cover it.

2099
01:34:58,720 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: Whatever it is.

2100
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 3: The choices you're with their consequences to each of your actions,

2101
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 3: all right.

2102
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 2: And last, but not least, I think this was the

2103
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: last rule they passed. Modify the kickoff alignment requirements for

2104
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 2: the receiving team in this setup zone. Help me out

2105
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: with that one.

2106
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 3: I probably changed it up, like they're different people that

2107
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 3: are aligning. Do you want to put five at the line,

2108
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 3: six at the line?

2109
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: Do you want to put four and two slightly behind there?

2110
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 3: Just creating more opportunities to be creative when it comes

2111
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 3: to the kicking air.

2112
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 2: All right, hear what you're saying there, all right? And

2113
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 2: the next thing, I don't know if they announced this

2114
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 2: at the meetings, but they did announce a plan to

2115
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 2: develop a professional flag football league for men and women.

2116
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 2: All Right, Why is there a need for that? I'm

2117
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 2: glad they included both men and women. But I guess

2118
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: they're doing it because of the Olympics in twenty twenty

2119
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: eight in LA They're going to have flag football. What

2120
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 2: would be the advantage. I watched it a little bit

2121
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: on TV and I saw Joe Burrow there and the

2122
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 2: last thing I'm thinking is like, he's going to cut

2123
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 2: to the left to cut to the right and hurt

2124
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 2: his knee again. You know what's the advantage of playing

2125
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 2: flag football, especially for the NFL players.

2126
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 3: Now more money, more money for the league. All football

2127
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 3: is real football, and you want to think about it.

2128
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: In terms of this.

2129
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why the league and this is

2130
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 3: me saying and not them saying it, one of the reasons.

2131
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: Why the league is so invested in flag football.

2132
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 3: It creates more opportunities for the league to be able

2133
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 3: to eventually sell merchandise as they grow fans.

2134
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: By opening up and allowing or.

2135
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Encouraging girls to play flag football, you are now building

2136
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,839
Speaker 3: up a fan base that maybe you didn't tap into before.

2137
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Young girls didn't have.

2138
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 3: Anyone that they could look up to admire International Football League,

2139
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 3: so you were losing them.

2140
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: Well. Now by giving them an opportunity.

2141
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 3: To play flag they now can feel like they are

2142
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 3: part of this football landscape that then allows them to

2143
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 3: probably go up to be girls that not only aspired it,

2144
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 3: maybe playing college or whatever but when they in turn

2145
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 3: have kids, maybe they're more willing to allow their kids

2146
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 3: to play because they participated for boys.

2147
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: It's another opportunity.

2148
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 3: Hey, if you don't want to play tackle football, here's

2149
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 3: an option for you. What does that do increase the

2150
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 3: numbers of participation? What does that do on a bigger deal,

2151
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 3: When you have more young boys and young girls playing

2152
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 3: some virsion of football, you now have a greater fan base.

2153
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 3: So this is by design, This is intentional. This is

2154
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 3: about growing the game and in essence creating more fans.

2155
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 3: More fans means more money because you have more people

2156
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 3: that are tuning in. This is all part of a

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01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,759
Speaker 3: bigger plan to expand the National Football League.

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01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: I hear you saying more fans, and that's great, okay,

2159
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 2: and it's probably gonna be TV money there. But I

2160
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 2: like to say, there be more jobs. You know, you

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01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 2: get more young women and young young men available to play,

2162
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 2: they'll get paid. They get more jobs and more coaching

2163
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: jobs in front office jobs. So it's great for everybody involved.

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01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 2: And I was shocked because it says over here right

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01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 2: now that flag football twenty million players that were involved worldwide,

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01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: one of the fastest sports in the world. I can't

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01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 2: believe it. Now I would say this. You know, I'm

2168
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 2: from Brooklyn, New York, and basically football in Brooklyn high

2169
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: school football was, you know, second to basketball. Basketball was

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01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 2: king all right, simply because there weren't many schools that

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01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 2: had fields. You know, a lot of schools doubled up

2172
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 2: to play and they shared. Like football in the Midwest

2173
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 2: in Texas, Oklahoma. When I lived in Oklahoma, Friday night

2174
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 2: was unbelievable, eight nine, ten thousand people. Even in Ohio

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01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 2: it's big. Morla High School has been tremendous. Jerry Foust

2176
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 2: Friday night games. They played ten o'clock in the morning

2177
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 2: on Saturday on fields that had glass bottles and whatever

2178
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,600
Speaker 2: it may be. Now I go back and look and

2179
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 2: see what's happening in my hometown. They got flag football

2180
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,440
Speaker 2: for girls in high school in New York City. It's unbelievable,

2181
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 2: it really is. Plus colleges in New York. I have

2182
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 2: Long Island University in Brooklyn. They went to the NCUBLEA.

2183
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 2: They got a flat football team. Saint Jose University in

2184
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 2: Brooklyn they got a flag football team. So flag football

2185
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 2: is catching on. It's bigger than pickleball and that was big.

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01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Flag football is huge, culy because I think it's backed

2187
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 2: by the NFL. That's why.

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01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is big, and you are seeing more people participated,

2189
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 3: boys and girls. I just saw a note that the

2190
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 3: Big twelve Conference is about to start flag football.

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01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: For women at the D one level. That means that

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01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: some of.

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01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 3: Your bigger schools like Texas Tech and others are going

2194
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 3: to have ladies playing football. That is going to increase

2195
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 3: the number of ladies that play at lower levels because

2196
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 3: dreams now become even more possible.

2197
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Of being athletes. Said the thing.

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01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, eventually they'll be like because there's two things. There's

2199
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 3: revenue share and there's ANIL. But yeah, like depending on

2200
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 3: how these things play out, that would be opportunities for

2201
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 3: revenue share and NIL.

2202
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 1: And paydays and those things.

2203
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 3: And now we're talking about a professional league at the

2204
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 3: highest level.

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01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: More opportunity to just create.

2206
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 3: Dreams and more dollars, more dreams, more dollars.

2207
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 2: Okay, I got to ask this, honestly, you increase sports

2208
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 2: on the college level, I'm all for it, no problem.

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01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 2: They're going to get paid. I'm all for that. They

2210
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 2: get paid. They do a lot for the university, they

2211
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 2: represent the school, they bring possibly students in to enroll

2212
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 2: and so swaged whatever it may be. Where does this

2213
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: money come from? You know, how are they going to

2214
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 2: get paid? I understand it's to be some NIL money.

2215
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Maybe a local car dealership will pay them, but the

2216
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 2: school's going to pay them. There's going to be a

2217
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 2: budget in the school as well. Where does that money

2218
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 2: come from? Increasing the moment admission?

2219
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 3: All the money now revenue share, All that money comes

2220
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 3: from the TV deals that are broker by the conferences

2221
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 3: that are then distributed to all of the participating members

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01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 3: within the conference.

2223
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: So that's how it comes.

2224
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 3: There's two forms and what people are sometimes getting confused.

2225
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Revenue share just started last year. Nil started a few

2226
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 3: years ago. Name, image and likeness. That's the collective. The

2227
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 3: collective comes from the booster clubs. So you're getting the

2228
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 3: money from the university, which is through the revenue share.

2229
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 3: The boosters are the ones that are behind the NIO

2230
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: deals that you're seeing.

2231
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: So two different.

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01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 3: Factions, but there's more than enough for money to be

2233
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,440
Speaker 3: able to play for some of these things.

2234
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 2: All right, He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Ay Furman. We are

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01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. You get us

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01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 2: on Twitter at Andy Furman FSR at Bucky Brooks eight seven,

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01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox eighty seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 2: six sixty three sixty nine and why put a number

2239
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 2: on success? That's next? All right, wait to these stars stand.

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Speaker 2: We'll explain that in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ay Firman. Happy Easter to one and all on

2242
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,439
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01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,479
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01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We are, Okay. A

2253
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 2: couple of things right now. In the National Football League.

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01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, this gentleman had a league high

2255
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 2: one hundred twenty nine receptions eighty first downs. He averaged

2256
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 2: a league high one hundred and seven point two yards

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01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 2: a game in total one seven hundred and fifteen yards

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01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 2: and ten receiving touchdowns in sixteen games. In his career,

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01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 2: he has three hundred and thirteen receptions for forty one

2260
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 2: to ninety one yards and nineteen touchdowns and forty four games.

2261
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: And he's in line for a large contract extension this offseason.

2262
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 2: All Right, the name is Pooka Nicoua, and right now

2263
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 2: he's in rehab. What in the world has happened to

2264
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 2: pokah Nicoua? And his attorney says he's been there for

2265
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:07,839
Speaker 2: a while, and the situation is the rehab is offering

2266
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 2: services for people that battle drug and alcohol addiction, chronic pain,

2267
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 2: and mental health conditions. He wants to improve his overall

2268
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 2: behavior in every aspect of his life. Did you see

2269
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,799
Speaker 2: this coming, Bucky Brooks? Have you heard about him throughout

2270
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 2: the league that he's a little off center.

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01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 3: No, But look, man, the one thing that you don't

2272
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 3: know is what people are going through. And I won't

2273
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 3: pretend to know what Pukin Naku has been going through. Obviously,

2274
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 3: his name has been in the news with some maleygases

2275
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 3: in those things. But if he was having a situation

2276
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 3: where he felt like he needed support and counseling as

2277
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 3: a former football league player, I support him and I

2278
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 3: think the RAMS support him in those things. Now, coming

2279
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 3: back as it relates to business and you talk about

2280
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 3: him being eligible for an extension. In those things, they

2281
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 3: only evaluate him. They evaluate him in their long term plans.

2282
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 3: They evaluate how he's fitting in and engaging with the team,

2283
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:07,520
Speaker 3: and they'll evaluate his performance.

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01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's off the table.

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01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 3: It just means that they're going to closely look at

2286
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 3: him and how he's progressing on and off the field,

2287
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 3: and then make the determination down the road.

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01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 2: I've always said TTT talent Trump's trouble. If your talented,

2289
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:29,520
Speaker 2: you could be used if you had some closet skeletons,

2290
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:31,640
Speaker 2: No big whoop, he's going to be playing. He'll be

2291
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:33,759
Speaker 2: on the Rams next year. Talent Trump's trouble.

2292
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, to a point, but it just it just depends.

2293
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 3: Like I mean, obviously talent gets more tolerance, but there

2294
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 3: is a fine line, and you can't have your star

2295
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 3: player engaged in a bunch of off field incidents, they

2296
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 3: might be deemed to be embarrassing.

2297
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: So we'll watch, observe, see how he goes forward.

2298
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 3: See if the production remains at a high level, and

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01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 3: then we'll go.

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 2: Is this a decision made solely by the LA RAMS

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01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:06,879
Speaker 2: or does the commissioner get involved with is his decision

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01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 2: being extended?

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01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 3: No, commissioner doesn't get involved in that. This is all

2304
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 3: about the RAMS. This would be ownership down. Can you

2305
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 3: trust him? What's the risk, what's the reward? How are

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01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 3: we going to do it? How we want to structure?

2307
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 3: How much money do you want to pony up to him?

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01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 3: What are the things we can put in the contract

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01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 3: to protect us if something goes around?

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01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 1: All that stuff?

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01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 2: All right? Good, let's talk about something good right now.

2312
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Only two players in NFL history have

2313
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 2: made more money than this guy who has just one

2314
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 2: playoff win in his fourteen year career. Who are we

2315
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 2: talking about? Kurt Cousins. Are unbelievable, And no doubt, do

2316
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: you think that Kirk Cousins is a Hall of famer? No,

2317
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,520
Speaker 2: but I think it's a hall of fame earner. That's unbelievable.

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01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 2: He just signed a one year, twenty million dollar deal

2319
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 2: with the Las Vegas Raiders. The third highest earning player

2320
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 2: in NFL history, and only Matthew Stafford and Aaron Rodgers

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01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 2: have a cut more career earnings than Kirk Cousins, who

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01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 2: recently get this past Super Bowl champ, seven time champ

2323
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Tom Brady on the old time earnings list. That's unbelievable.

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01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 2: He must have one hell of an agent, really he does.

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01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 3: And I can say this that his agent is a

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01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 3: friend of mine. And look, part of the reason why

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01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 3: it worked for Kirk Cousins is because the way they

2328
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 3: manipulated the system franchise tag multiple franchise tags, then leads

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01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 3: to a big parlay that leads to guaranteed money.

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01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 1: They didn't have to redo the deal.

2331
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 3: The Minnesota more guaranteed money, more years goes to Atlanta,

2332
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 3: big deal, guaranteed money.

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01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: It's all worked out.

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01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 3: I would say this Kirk Cousins, but four time Pro bowler,

2335
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 3: he's done some things. His team hasn't won at the

2336
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 3: level that you would expect someone that has made that

2337
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 3: kind of money to do it. But you can't regarage

2338
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 3: him as a player. You have to pay what you

2339
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 3: get paid what people are value at and are willing

2340
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 3: to pay, and he has been a guy that has

2341
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 3: hit the free agent market at the right time. He's

2342
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 3: a guy that has made the system work for him.

2343
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 3: So hats off to him for being able to get paid.

2344
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't know Kirk Cousins though. Do you know Kirk Cousins,

2345
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 2: I mean, you chum me with him? Well?

2346
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: No, I don't know him well enough. I like I've

2347
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: had things with him.

2348
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 2: I just don't know because I've seen him on teav

2349
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 2: I think it was on Hard Knocks and I had

2350
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 2: like or maybe the Quarterbacks. Wasn't there a show of

2351
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks on another network? I forgot what it was?

2352
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Maybe Netflix? Yeah, yeah, he was one of the three.

2353
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 2: He seemed to be like a great guy, family guy,

2354
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 2: you know, down to earth, You're not extravagant, just a

2355
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 2: good guy. So I think he's a good guy to

2356
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 2: have around. I think I think he's gonna do good

2357
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 2: things for the for the Raiders, I really do. I

2358
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 2: think he's gonna help them. He's gonna help develop Mendoza

2359
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 2: as a quarterback. You know, he he's a team player.

2360
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 2: He wouldn't shun Mendoza coming in there. He'll he'll show

2361
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 2: him the ropes. He'll know that.

2362
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's he there?

2363
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 3: Hopefully that was part of the conversation, Like certainly Klint

2364
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 3: Kubiak wants him to do it. Klein Kubiak also probably

2365
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 3: told him, hey, you're gonna play. We want you to play.

2366
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 3: He wants you to play well, and ultimately you or

2367
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 3: performers determines when Mendoza gets on the field, you play well,

2368
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 3: you hold on to it. If you don't, eventually we

2369
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 3: can go to the young kids. Look, it's a win

2370
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 3: win situation for the Raiders when it comes to Kirk

2371
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 3: Cousins and what he's able to do for them in

2372
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 3: this role.

2373
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 2: Good. Now, I want to talk about the NBA. We

2374
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 2: talked about the good bean and the this is ugly.

2375
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 2: This is not only all, it's kind of stupid. Really,

2376
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 2: the NBA is now I think number three is the

2377
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 2: league on the NFL and maybe Major League Baseball. I

2378
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 2: don't know. This is some talk about maybe Major League

2379
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: Baseball has bypassed the NBA as the number two old

2380
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 2: times sport for fandom. All right, we'll see. But the

2381
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,719
Speaker 2: three point bombs are thrown like ninety plus combined three

2382
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: point shots. Teams are every on a nightly basis, the

2383
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 2: tanking situation, the arrest, that's not helping that league at all.

2384
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 2: But now this this is like the bottom of the barrel. Really,

2385
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:53,520
Speaker 2: Anthony was the ant man is illegal for NBA Postseason

2386
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,520
Speaker 2: Awards because he won't reach the sixty five game minimum.

2387
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 2: There's gotta be a better way than this. Really, if

2388
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 2: you play seventy five percent of these games, that's sixty two,

2389
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 2: not sixty five. So I think seventy five percent would

2390
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: have been a good deal. But what if you were

2391
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: in baseball, What if you hit seventy five home runs

2392
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 2: and you only play fifty games, would it not count?

2393
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 5: Then?

2394
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 2: I don't understand that you got to change this rule.

2395
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 2: I never heard of this rule before about the Postason Awards.

2396
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this rule came because people were tied in

2397
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 3: load management.

2398
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: So in.

2399
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 3: An effort to eliminate some of the load management things,

2400
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 3: they put minimums and requirements on how much you played

2401
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,719
Speaker 3: to get those things. And that matters because it also

2402
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 3: impacts your ability to get the max contract to supermax.

2403
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 1: And those things.

2404
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 3: They were trying to encourage players to play more. Ultimately,

2405
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna have some people that fall shorter line. There

2406
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 3: can be some upset stuff, but you got to say

2407
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 3: a hard line. If you want players to play, you

2408
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 3: got to put some parameters in there.

2409
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 1: And this was part of that decision, right.

2410
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 2: And there's gonna be people winning these awards that don't

2411
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 2: deserve to in the awards, but they're gonna get them

2412
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: because they got decent stats, but they played more games.

2413
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 2: That's the joke of the whole matter. It really is, right, Luka,

2414
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 2: Doncics is not gonna win the MVP Award because he's

2415
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:16,759
Speaker 2: gonna be out right now, Cunningham called Cunningham. He's Cunningham.

2416
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 2: He's not gonna win it from the Pistons. He's not

2417
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 2: gonna Edwards. He's not gonna win the award. I mean

2418
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: they might not even they should even have it. I really,

2419
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 2: you know who's gonna get it now? Guy like Devin Booker,

2420
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 2: Devin Brooker may get it.

2421
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, well, you can't have both ways.

2422
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 3: We can't come in here and complain about the stars

2423
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 3: not playing and then when you do things to make

2424
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 3: the stars play get mad about it. So do we

2425
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 3: want the stars to play? Or are we okay with

2426
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 3: them sitting down? Because before the guys were load management.

2427
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 3: We weren't seeing them play a ton and so we

2428
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 3: didn't have anything to impact it. They were trying to

2429
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,720
Speaker 3: impose things that would impact the money, that would drive

2430
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 3: people to play. Unfortunately, injuries and those things are part

2431
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 3: of it. But if you don't play the sixty five games,

2432
01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 3: you can't be able for the award. I'm okay with that.

2433
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 2: Okay, what about the National Football League? Is there a

2434
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 2: minimum there take any awards?

2435
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 3: No, but we don't have a low difference. Yeah, but

2436
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 3: we don't have load management issues. You don't ever hear

2437
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,799
Speaker 3: anyone talking about, oh my god, this team is sitting

2438
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 3: out their entire squad for multiple games do to load management.

2439
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 3: The NBA has a load management problem. The NFL doesn't

2440
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 3: have one.

2441
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 2: So you could rush for two thousand yards and nine

2442
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 2: games and get the rushing title, Yes you can, And

2443
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 2: if you reach two thousand and after nine games, the

2444
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,719
Speaker 2: coach could sit you down and rest you for the playoffs.

2445
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: If they could, but no one has done that. It

2446
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been an issue.

2447
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 3: So there's no need to legislate against something that hasn't

2448
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 3: been an issue yet. There hasn't been a load management issue.

2449
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 3: The only time load management comes into play is maybe

2450
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 3: the last week of the season when you're trying to

2451
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 3: determine do I want to have my guys up or

2452
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 3: down for the postseason? If I want to make sure

2453
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 3: that they're rested and ready to go. We've already cleansed,

2454
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 3: we know what our situation is. Cool, gonna sit them down.

2455
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 3: If not, we're gonna play them. The league is also

2456
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 3: The National Football League is also different. You have seventeen games.

2457
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,759
Speaker 3: I don't have time to mess around with load management

2458
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 3: when only have seventeen. I may be able to take

2459
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 3: one game off, I can't take two to three games off,

2460
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 3: never leaking into a quarter of the season. There's a

2461
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 3: difference when you play so many games in the NBA

2462
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 3: compared to having a short, sweet schedule like you have

2463
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

2464
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 2: Well, I do know the National Football they changed it

2465
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 2: several years ago because there used to be the last

2466
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 2: game of the season, a lot of players would rest

2467
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 2: the coaches whoarrest them. Now they made that last game

2468
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 2: a conference game, which could be a meaningful game, so

2469
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 2: more often than not than not resting players because that

2470
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 2: could be a game for home field advantage or playoff opportunity,

2471
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. So they're not resting players. But

2472
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 2: I got to ask you this, we got we got

2473
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 2: to go behind the curtain a little bit. When did

2474
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 2: this load management start? Why did it start? And why

2475
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 2: is it only in the NBA? I mean, who started this?

2476
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 2: As a kid rooting for the NBA, I never heard

2477
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 2: the term load man. I mean I expected to see

2478
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 2: Willis Reid when I was a kid, watching him play

2479
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 2: every night. Every night. Willis Reed played with Clyde Fraser,

2480
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 2: Bill Bradley, Dave de Busher. They've played every night in

2481
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:13,879
Speaker 2: New York. When I watched the NIXT play.

2482
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like in yesteryear, Yeah, everybody played. But

2483
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 3: then as you got more recently, you have people that

2484
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 3: are looking at the science and they're trying to protect

2485
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 3: their players. They're trying to see what's most important. Is

2486
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 3: the most important that we are the best regular season team,

2487
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 3: or that we want to have an opportunity to hoist

2488
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 3: the Larry O'Brian Trophy and the win those sixteen games, Well,

2489
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,759
Speaker 3: the trophy ultimately is the biggest determining factor in whether

2490
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 3: we are viewed as successful or not. I want to

2491
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 3: make sure I have my best players available for that.

2492
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 3: That's the determination because people are not satisfied with regular

2493
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 3: season and division titles in the pros. They want to

2494
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 3: see you win the championship. And the only way some

2495
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 3: people view some people believe in preparing for the championship

2496
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 3: is to make sure that all my guys are ready

2497
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 3: and available. And that means sometimes if it's close, I'm

2498
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 3: gonna sit you down. I'm gonna make sure you're fresh

2499
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 3: and ready.

2500
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I'm hearing now, it's a coaching decision,

2501
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 2: not a player decision.

2502
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't think players are determining whether

2503
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 3: to sit out. I think it's an organizational decision that

2504
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 3: the organization is determined determining when these guys sit out.

2505
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 3: In those things no different than in baseball when you

2506
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 3: have starters going maybe three innings, it's part of a

2507
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 3: collective or committee situation for a game, or hey, you're

2508
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 3: just gonna go five innings regardless of what you feel.

2509
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Five innings. That's it.

2510
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 3: More organizations are looking at research and analytics and those things,

2511
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 3: and some of them that may be analytically based may

2512
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 3: skew tours.

2513
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 1: Load noad management in those things.

2514
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 3: Others that are a little more a I'm gonna go

2515
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 3: buy gutting instincts and field I am a play them,

2516
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna play them. It all depends, but it's rarely,

2517
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 3: in my estimations, rarely just a player operating on his own.

2518
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I got a quick decision. Okay, I'll run this,

2519
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 2: spy tell me if I'm right a wrong on this.

2520
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: I know how to eliminate the load management. Have less

2521
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs, less playoff teams. You're getting teams

2522
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 2: in the playoffs run somewhat less than five hundred records.

2523
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 2: If you have less teams in the playoffs, they'll have

2524
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: to play the guys more because there's less teams to

2525
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 2: get in there. Every game means more, right, They got

2526
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 2: so many teams in the playoffs now it is somewhat meaningless.

2527
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: The regular season doesn't mean anything. You just want to

2528
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. Get less teams in the playoffs

2529
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 2: won't happen because playoffs need more money with TV exposure,

2530
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 2: TV money. But if that's the way to solve it,

2531
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 2: don't you think have less teams get into the playoffs.

2532
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 3: I mean you can do that, but then it's less

2533
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 3: money and those things. You may feel better because Okay,

2534
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 3: everyone's participating, but you don't have many eyeballs on your sport. Ultimately,

2535
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 3: you have to make a decision, and so like I

2536
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 3: am willing to make hard decisions and worry about the

2537
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 3: minority voices that are talking about like, oh my god,

2538
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 3: this isn't fair that such and such.

2539
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 1: Is not going to be an MVP. He's that can

2540
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: be eligible to things. So be it. Those are the rules.

2541
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 3: Play sixty five games and you're elder, you don't, You're not.

2542
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 3: That's it in the story.

2543
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. Okay. By the way, if

2544
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,040
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2551
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 2: get after you. Now, sometimes you gotta blame somebody. We do.

2552
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: That's why the blame game is freaking next. All right,

2553
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 2: the blame game coming right up about ten minutes before

2554
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. By the way, at the

2555
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 2: top of the hour. That's not in on the East

2556
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 2: Coast Countdown with Brian Nowen, Bill Krakenberg. So keep it

2557
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Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucket Brooks Amandy

2558
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 2: Furman Aware live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and

2559
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 2: so is the little dumper. Right now, it's time for

2560
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: the blame game.

2561
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: You ruin me.

2562
01:56:56,720 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 5: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault, all your fault.

2563
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 5: Maybe it's everyone's fault. A liar, that's why there's the

2564
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 5: blame game. Let's figure out who to blame.

2565
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 4: All right, It's time to play the blame game, everybody.

2566
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 4: And you know what, Andy, I'm ready to blame people.

2567
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 4: And I'm I think will blame you. I think you're

2568
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 4: You're first on my list. I don't know, but I'm

2569
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 4: gonna find something anyways, you will. Anyways, it's time to

2570
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 4: play the blame game. So the first one up, guys,

2571
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 4: the sixty five game minimum for NBA Awards.

2572
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 7: Who do you blame for this one? Andy?

2573
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 2: You know what, though, I just got the idea from

2574
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 2: our guys, super Mark Ramsey. Okay, you told me. Greg

2575
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 2: Popovich when he was coaching the San Antonio Spurs, he

2576
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: used the one who left the team in San Antonio

2577
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: when they went to mi Abbi to play the heat

2578
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 2: and the team was in San Antonio. He is the

2579
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 2: one who started with the tanking and everything else, load management.

2580
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 2: He did it. So I blamed Greg Popovich.

2581
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 3: That's it, all the copycast that took what the Spurs

2582
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 3: did and thought that they could replicate it.

2583
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: Mike, I mean, this was.

2584
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 3: A situation where if Popovich did that, and he did

2585
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 3: that for the sake of the team, who he's only

2586
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 3: responsible for his team, kudos for him, but silly.

2587
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 1: For all those idiots the thing that they could replicate

2588
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 1: it because they weren't winning at the level that Papovich

2589
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: was winning.

2590
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 7: All right, all right, those are our blames there.

2591
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 4: The next one up, eliminate the SEC title football game.

2592
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 7: Who do you blame for that one, Bucky?

2593
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 3: The obsession with being successful in the college football playoff,

2594
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 3: that's what's crushing.

2595
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: The title game.

2596
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 3: So get rid of the title games, get rid of

2597
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 3: all the other bowl games. Treat this just like high school.

2598
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 3: When the season ends right around Thanksgiving, we should be

2599
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 3: able to start the playoffs within two weeks after that,

2600
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 3: and we don't need all these weeks in between. I mean,

2601
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 3: play every Saturday after that and get it done.

2602
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:54,280
Speaker 1: Shouldn't take long.

2603
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: Greg Birdie, athletic director of University of Alabama, kind of

2604
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 2: pitched that idea. I think the day, I think it's

2605
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 2: probably gonna happen. And boohoo, do you I hate that

2606
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 2: Beau's more football. The better let him play. It's better enough.

2607
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 2: The both games are going down. The Crapper play play play.

2608
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 4: Play Thank you kawhi Well you say play, Andy Well,

2609
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 4: I got one for you. The creation of a professional

2610
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 4: flag football league.

2611
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 7: Who do you blame for that?

2612
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 2: Andy Well? You gotta blame the National Football League, because

2613
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 2: why they want the Green Salvation, they want the God,

2614
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 2: they want the green Cabbage, they want the Mullah, they

2615
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 2: want the cash, they want the Guild. It's all about money.

2616
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 2: That's what it's all about, of creating a league right

2617
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 2: now for both men and women. And Bucky told me

2618
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 2: just recently that what the Big Ten they gonna have

2619
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 2: a football flag football and the Big Ten. So it's

2620
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 2: all over the place. But yeah, I'm not that down

2621
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 2: on it. Busin it does create jobs and more scholarships.

2622
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the big trips don't have it. I like it.

2623
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 3: I think he grows the fan base, It provides opportunities

2624
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 3: for young ladies and young boys to participate.

2625
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 1: It gives them an opportunity to dream about doing things

2626
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 1: at the higher life.

2627
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 3: And overall, more football is good for it is just

2628
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 3: different what we're saying. But nah, this is great.

2629
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: I love flag football, all right, all right.

2630
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 4: I like it too. Well, I got something for you too.

2631
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 4: Let's go baseball. The sore arms and pitching injuries in baseball, guys,

2632
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 4: who do you blame for this one?

2633
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 3: Bucky Well, I blame like people aren't having their starting

2634
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 3: pitchers throw as long, so they've lost some of the

2635
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 3: training and some of the density and resilience that they

2636
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 3: had when they used to pitch a lot way back

2637
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 3: in the day.

2638
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: That's been the biggest issue.

2639
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 2: You know what I blame. I don't think pitchers pitch anymore.

2640
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 2: They throw, and they want to throw those FM numbers.

2641
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,160
Speaker 2: We're buy FM numbers like one on one point four

2642
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,080
Speaker 2: that they want to play one on three point two.

2643
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. So they're not pitching, they're throwing.

2644
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 2: But right now I want to say goodbye, have a

2645
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 2: happy east, to see you next week and count down

2646
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 2: as next right here, on Fox