1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Captain Wrong. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact, 12 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: wilksplo the latest news in upology, discuss some of the 13 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: classic cases and bring you the latest information from the 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: newest cases as we talked with the top experts. 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I'm Captain Ron, and today we're 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: going to be speaking with our friend Steve Bassett. Steve's 17 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: the executive director of the Paradigm Research Group, which he 18 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: founded back in nineteen ninety six to end the government 19 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 4: imposed embargo on the truth behind the extraterrestrial related phenomenon. 20 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 4: It was then that he also became a registered lobbyist 21 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 4: for the UAP subject. There's been so much happening these 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: last couple of months, it's unbelievable. It's very hard to 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: keep up, and no one is on top of this 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: stuff as much as Steve is. So I thought, you know, 25 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: he archives this stuff on his website, Paradigmresearchgroup dot org. 26 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: I thought would bring him in and try to make 27 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: sense of all of this. Hey, Steve, how are we doing? 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: Is your head spinning there in Washington? 29 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: Everybody's head is spinning here in Washington, just spinning heads. 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 5: It's interesting times you live in, my friend, so enjoy them. 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: What is where's con uber right now? With this issue? 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: It seems like more and more people are addressing this 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: in a serious way. Where do you think Congress sits 34 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: right now? 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's engaging at a level that we've never 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: seen before. It's been doing it for years. So yeah, 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 5: Congress is very much involved. A lot of that is known. 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: We're seeing it happen. They're getting interviews, they're on camera, 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: they're going on media. But there are plenty of other 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: members of Congress. I can assure you that are engaging 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: this issue by not saying anything about it. They're reading up, 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: they're paying attention to what the other members of Congress 43 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: are doing. In other words, the ones that are out 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 5: front now are leading the way for the rest who 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 5: are not quite ready to jump in. But it's well, 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: it's the biggest issue out there in the world as 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: far as I'm concerned, So it will happen. So congressionally, 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 5: we're in a very very good shape. And the name 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 5: of your show, beyond contact is totally appropriate. We've had contact, 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 5: We've had tons of contact, ask any contact e and 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: so as a result, we are beyond contact but before disclosure. 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 5: So there's huge numbers of people in the world that 53 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 5: know that they're here, and many have had actual direct 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: contact called contact ease, but we haven't gotten a confirmation 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 5: from the heads of state. That's a political matter. Naturally, 56 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 5: it takes forever, and it has we're now in our 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 5: seventy eighth year. But finally the Congress started getting involved 58 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: right around two thousand and early twenty eighteen, when people 59 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: who had come out in twenty seventeen, particularly Christopher Melan, 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: Luel Azando and some others, started taking witnesses up on 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 5: the hill. It was a logical first step, quietly, no publicity, 62 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: taking them on the hill, having them sit with certain 63 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: members of key committees to talk about what they know, 64 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 5: so that these members could get enough up speed to 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 5: be able to decide what to do. This went on 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 5: through all of nineteen, it went on into twenty. How 67 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 5: many of these meetings took place, don't know. They were 68 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: not public, but I think a decent amount were. The 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: focus was certainly the Intel Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee 70 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: in the Senate, and maybe the same in the House, 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: though apparently some people on the Oversight Committee in the 72 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 5: House got free. And at some point it reached a 73 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: critical mass and guess what it did, what it's supposed 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 5: to do, it triggered legislation. Legislation came out of the 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 5: Senate in this case started there. Marco Rubio was the 76 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 5: initial sponsor. It was a small piece of legislation regarding 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: the AP issue that went into the Omnimous Bill, the 78 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 5: COVID Relief Omnimous Bill, which included the National Offense Authorization Act, 79 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: first piece of legislation ever in the history of this issue, 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 5: and this was put in in July of twenty it 81 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: was signed at the end of the year. Since then, 82 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 5: there have been three more substantial, ever more substantial pieces 83 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: of legislation, including a massive bill that was so comprehensive 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 5: it had to be paired back because there were some 85 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 5: people not quite ready for that much bill. 86 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: But it's been reintroduced, the Schumer Rounds Bill, right, the 87 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 4: one we've talked about many times. Yeah, that was going 88 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: to really make a big difference for us. But then 89 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: they ended up gutting that at the end of the year. 90 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: Well, not gutting it. They let's just say that they 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: removed the pretty much removed the powers. In other words, 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: they left the intent of the bill there, but they 93 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 5: took away the powers of a review committee with the 94 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 5: president Presidential Review Committee or UFO Review Committee, as well 95 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: as the poena power, things like that, because it was 96 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: a little too soon, right, that's okay, little pushback. Nevertheless, 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 5: the bill was resubmitted. It's going to be resubmitted again, 98 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 5: and that was the fourth piece of legislation. So all 99 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: the legislation, with the exception of i think the completion 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 5: of what they called, by the way, the UAP Disclosure Act. 101 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 5: That's not a trivial thing. They called it the UAP 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 5: Disclosure Act. On it was they thing called the UFO 103 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 5: Disclosure Act is because well, uf UAP is a preferred 104 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: term amongst people of a political persuasion. That's fine. So 105 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: all of that is in place. Meanwhile, the briefings continue 106 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 5: to go on through those years, and so it was 107 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: inevitable that we were finally going to get some hearings. Now. 108 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 5: We got a very very modest hearing in twenty twenty one. 109 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: It was in the Senate Intel Committee moultrim Bray. Wasn't much, 110 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: but it was the first hearing since nineteen sixty eight. 111 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 5: Since then there have been about eight of these quote hearings, 112 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: some limited, but two major. And it turns out that 113 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: the big player in this final Act is, of all things, 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: to House Oversight, the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, 115 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: a subcommittee of that of the main Committee that I 116 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 5: think deals with security issues. National security issue that is 117 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 5: where it ends up the kind of lands in their lap. Now, 118 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 5: will other committees move in at some point, I don't know, 119 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 5: but they have been leading away now since twenty twenty three. 120 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: Because what triggered the first real hearing in the history 121 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 5: of this issue. I mean substance of hearing, not just 122 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: a little briefing le Moultium since nineteen sixty eight, when 123 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: two very modest half day events took place, don't even 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: have I don't think we have video of it. Now 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: there is a record of it. Not a big deal 126 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: sixty eight. We're talking fifty five years was twenty twenty three. 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 5: And what triggered that hearing which happened to be in 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 5: the House Subcommittee of the Oversight Committee in this case, 129 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 5: I think it was led by Burchitt and Grafmann. But 130 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: in any event, was that David Grush. When Grush came 131 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 5: forward as a true whistleblower, saying, I have been harassed 132 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: because I have done my job. My job was to 133 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: convey extraordinary information from first hand insiders within our use apps. 134 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: I gave it to the right people. Then I started 135 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: getting serious problems. He went to the Inspector General. He 136 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: got relief. They investigated his statements that he was passing 137 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: on confirmed they were true, meaning they almost certainly talked 138 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: with the firsthand witnesses. And what was the issue that 139 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 5: he was bringing forward? Something that well, most of my 140 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 5: colleagues have known for decades. The United States has a 141 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 5: crash retrieval program and a full out out science and 142 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: engineering reversal program and or discovery program from these vehicles 143 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 5: has been going on for seventy years. 144 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: You're mentioning that that's exactly right. And then you know, 145 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: since then, we've been seeing things just recently that we've 146 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: never seen before. Guy like hell Putoff came out and 147 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: said that very thing. He specifically said on Joe Rogan 148 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: that we the US government has ten or more more 149 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: than ten. I think he said crash retrievals from non 150 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 4: human intelligence. Don't you think that that alone is also 151 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: an unprecedented? 152 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 5: Oh, there's so many unprecedented thinks that man, I should 153 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: make up a list. You'll make a good post on X. 154 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 5: You know, it's history unfolding rolling forward at a aty pace. 155 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: The historians will spend all kinds of hours writing extensive 156 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 5: volumes about all these things, and they'll they'll parse it out. 157 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: But do you think it's significant. Can't the hell put 158 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: Off came forward like that? 159 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, of course it is. What has happened is 160 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: a huge amount of effort, particularly starting in two late 161 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, has underway on the part of the citizens 162 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: on the part of the media, which is covering this 163 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 5: issue at a record pace, on the part of members 164 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 5: of Conference and so forth. A huge amount of pressure 165 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 5: has been put on the truth embargo as policy, and 166 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 5: one of the outcomes of that is the stigma on 167 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: the subject is gone. You might as well be talking 168 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: about nuclear submarines or you know, some war somewhere in 169 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: the world. It is legitimized. There are people that try 170 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 5: to throw a little stigma in there, do a little ridicule, 171 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 5: doesn't go anywhere, get a lot of pushback. The stigma 172 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: is basically gone. Now it's a new reality that not 173 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 5: everybody's adjusted to. But the fact is that there's no 174 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 5: reason for anybody to come. There's no fundamental other the 175 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 5: and security clearances and other arrangements they may have for anybody, 176 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 5: whether it's a PhD at Harvard or a major scientist 177 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: like Gary Nolan, or members of Congress, to come for 178 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: it and simply talk about this matter of fact. And 179 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 5: at once the stigma dropped to practically zero. Theoretically it's 180 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: wide open for anybody. It feels like saying something and 181 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 5: guess what. The list of people that know about this 182 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 5: issue is large, and so it's not surprising that a 183 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 5: number of these people are saying something. It's only going 184 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: to get bigger. 185 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: Hey, hold on, Steve, you've got to take a break. Break. 186 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: We will, but we'll come back. Let's take a break there. 187 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to talk more with 188 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: Steve and find out what happened here on me. Back 189 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 4: on May first, they had a briefing and Steve will 190 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 4: get us up to speed on that. If you're listening 191 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 192 00:10:48,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: AM Paranormal podcast network, we are back on Beyond Contact. 193 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: We're talking to Steve Bassett. Steve, So back on Me first. 194 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: We didn't have a hearing, but we did get a 195 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: congressional briefing. 196 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a third party event that this happens. 197 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: Very few briefings on the hill are televised. Many hearings are, 198 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 5: but not briefings they don't get televised. Well, this was 199 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: live stream. Why because it was a third party event 200 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: paid for and funded by the UAP Disclosure Fund, the 201 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 5: second one that they had done. So they sponsored what 202 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 5: amount of tude of kind of a round table in 203 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 5: which seven witnesses or seven individuals came in and in 204 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 5: three sessions they gave a brief presentation, and then one 205 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 5: of the UAP Disclosure Fund individuals asked them some key questions. 206 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 5: As it happened, there were three members of the committee 207 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 5: subcommittee sitting next to them, listening to all of it 208 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: and available to answer a question. You had a packed 209 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 5: audience in the in this hearing room, big audience, and 210 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: it's live streamed, and so one of you and Christopher 211 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,359 Speaker 5: Mellen gave a very strong presentation. So did Admiral Galadett. 212 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 5: Who is Eric Davis. 213 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: I mean he flat out said, point blank, we have 214 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: at least four different races. I mean, that's an incredible thing. 215 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: Well, Eric Davis, right now we're in the ray Burn 216 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 5: you know, we're in the Rayburn building. Right now. It's 217 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: Eric da Now. Eric Davis is in our world. Is 218 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 5: well known. He's been involved in a research of interesting 219 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 5: types going back forever, and he is in the famous. 220 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: Wilson Davis memo. He's that guy. 221 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 5: Most people may know him for the Wilson Davis memo, 222 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: but I assure you he has been talked about and 223 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: then been in books and so forth forever. He's an 224 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 5: inside guy. Who's also a lot outside, and so he's there, 225 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: which is the first time that I'm aware that he's 226 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 5: ever been under camera inside a congressional office building. And 227 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,119 Speaker 5: so it gets to him. Right, he gives his presentation, 228 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 5: which is pretty cool, and he gets asked a question 229 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: I think it was a representative of Burlison, and not shockingly, 230 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: he simply asked, well, I've heard that there's different kinds 231 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: of extaterrestrials. Remember we're we're in a committee room in 232 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: the Rayburn Building on Capitol Hill. And Davis just turns 233 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 5: to and says, oh, yes, there's four kinds. There's the insectoids, 234 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 5: there's the reptoids, there are the I think he referred 235 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: basically was referring to the grays, and they're they're the Nordics. 236 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: And I mean, this is an incredible why I'm surprised 237 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: it really didn't get more media attention, to be honest, 238 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe that. Then start every news channel. 239 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: Hey in Congress, this guy said this. 240 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: Well, there are a lot was said in that meeting. 241 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: The briefing was covered, not not a lot of coverage, 242 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,479 Speaker 5: but I'd sure you it's it's archives on my website. 243 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: But a lot else has been going on simultaneous with that, 244 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: you may have noticed, and so it's really you're really 245 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 5: competing against a major breaking news and so but it's 246 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 5: on record, right I haven't I haven't searched for the 247 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 5: video yet, but it's somewhere. It may be up on 248 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 5: the So what we need to do I'm buying my 249 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: colleagues to do this is get your editing software up, 250 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 5: go grab that thing, take that cliff out, and start 251 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: putting it out on social media. But again, this may 252 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: be the first time that anybody it ever on camera, 253 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: has stated that there are more than one species here. 254 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 5: I couldn't believe. 255 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: He just just vomited that out and it was like 256 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: matter of fact, and he was just like, don't matter 257 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: of fact, like and convinced and certain, you know. 258 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 5: And then it was over. Okay, But a lot of people, 259 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: most people in the artists, may not have realized how 260 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 5: significant it was. But it was the first time I believe, 261 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 5: ever on camera that anyone has referred to the the 262 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: group of species that are here. All right, again, how 263 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 5: could that have happened? It's only because the bar is 264 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: now way down almost anybody can step over it and 265 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 5: the people inside that are managing the Truth and Bargo 266 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 5: who buy and large. Their job is to do what 267 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 5: you're supposed to do, which is when maintaining embargo, also 268 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 5: do their research, the science, the re engineering, whatever, maintain 269 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: the classification schema, get the money. All the people that 270 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: run it, and particularly those individuals whose principal responsibility is 271 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: basically keeping it under wraps, or at least keeping the 272 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: wolves away from the door. I get that, and who 273 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: that is doesn't really matter. I call them the managers, 274 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: the Truth and Barbo managers. It's not the Illuminante. It's 275 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: not a group that meets at, you know, an evil 276 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 5: castle somewhere once a year. No, it's people that are 277 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 5: working for the government, getting paid to government salary. They 278 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: know that the bar is completely dropped, that almost anybody 279 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 5: can step over any time. They know that the two 280 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: embargo was essentially what I like to call a walking, 281 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 5: a dead policy walking. That's a little harsh, but they 282 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: know it's kind of over. The trick is okay. But 283 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 5: what do you do in otherwise? How does it finally 284 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: end up? What's the process and the dilemma for them, 285 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 5: it's a perfectly reasonable dilemma. Is that. The only way 286 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 5: the embargo ends appropriately and we enter the new era 287 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: is a head of state has got to confirm it. 288 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: And any head of state that does this, I assure 289 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 5: you will have all the evidence you could possibly want. 290 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: I'm not saying the head of state will drag it 291 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: out with the announcement, but they'll immediately start having briefings 292 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 5: and people will be going to the briefing rooms at 293 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 5: all manner of things will start to emerge absolutely confirming 294 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 5: what this head of state is stated. The only way 295 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: that can happen. So far, no head of state has 296 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: ever done it. There are quite a few that could 297 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: do it. I've talked about that for thirty years. The 298 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: ruler of China, the Soviet Union, the ruler of Russia 299 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 5: at any time could have done this. They chosen not to, 300 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 5: but they make you believe. 301 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 4: It's Steve, do you think if the ruler of Russia 302 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: said that now that most Americans would believe it's true. 303 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: It's a lot of question whether most Americans believe it's true. 304 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: It sets in motion an irreversible explosive process because whatever 305 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: head of state comes forward, it's not going to say, hey, 306 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 5: I'm just letting you know there's ets here. I'm not 307 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 5: taking any more questions, right, They're going to back it 308 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 5: up with the kind of evidence that they have within 309 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 5: their their their their their country, and they I mean 310 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: one of these countries. The major countries have plenty, particularly Russia, 311 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 5: particularly China. They've got huh, they have their own vehicles. 312 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 5: There have been crashed vehicles in many countries. Right, this 313 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 5: has also been established. You don't hear as much about 314 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 5: them because well, those countries are more authoritative and so. 315 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 5: But it could be the Prime Minister of the UK. Again, 316 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 5: it will be an announcement confirming the et presence a 317 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 5: suddenly is being backed up with evidence from that country. 318 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 5: Every other country is in the game, is going to 319 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: have to immediately respond. The United States can say, well, 320 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 5: apparently the Prime Minister of Canada, of rather the UK, 321 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 5: they don't. They had a pub and lost it. No, No, 322 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: it's done at that moment. It's done. And then it's 323 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 5: a question of who can get out is the fastest. 324 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 5: You don't want to be the twenty third nation. It 325 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: finally confirms, oh, well, by the way, we do have 326 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 5: extraterrestrials here and they know this, right, I mean, believe me, 327 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 5: they are fully aware of this, all of the major certainly, 328 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 5: let's just talk about the nuclear nations. Every one of 329 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: the nuclear nations knows that every other head of state 330 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: of the nuclear nations is fully aware of the at presidence. 331 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 5: And many of those countries too, have an ample amount of 332 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 5: evidence to absolutely confirm it. And just to add one, 333 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 5: just to mention one thing, every nation in this except 334 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 5: some of the really kind of not developed nations that 335 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 5: may have an air force. I'm talking about the major 336 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 5: nations with real air forces that are designed to protect 337 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 5: their borders and so forth. Like if a fly over 338 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 5: the country and shoot them the finger they take, they 339 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 5: blow you out of the sky. Every one of those 340 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: nations has got reams of gun camera footage of intercepts 341 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 5: by their defense planes. Where they go up, they see 342 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 5: these things, they film them. They film in several ways, right, 343 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 5: and then they store that footage they vaulted, right, They 344 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: don't put it out. They do it. They can't shoot 345 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 5: them down. I think they all know that, right, So 346 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: maybe they've gotten lucky a couple of times, but they 347 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: certainly film the intercept and all of those are boulted. 348 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: How many films like that exist as could be in 349 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: the tens of thousands. The United States is loaded with it. 350 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 5: And so just on the basis of gun camera footage alone, 351 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: if somebody says, well, mister Prime Minister, you clearly are 352 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: having an episode, he says, tomorrow, We're going to show 353 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: you forty five hours of gun camera footage of these things, 354 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 5: different crap, different type, in high quality four K. So 355 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 5: they all know that, and so when one of them breaks, 356 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 5: the other ones will follow. Now is it in the 357 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 5: advantage of the United States to be first? You bet 358 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: it is. Absolutely. We want to be the first nation 359 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 5: to do this. 360 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: Steve will come back and I want you to tell 361 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: us why that is, because to me, I would think, well, 362 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: what's the difference, But I'm very curious to hear why. 363 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: So when we come back, we're talking more from Steve. 364 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 4: We're going to find that out. We're going to ask 365 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: him about some of the guys testifying inside these skiffs 366 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: as well. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio 367 00:20:44,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are 368 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: back on Beyond Contact. It's Captain Ron talking to Steve Bassett. So, Steve, 369 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: why is it important for the us to be first 370 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: to acknowledge the UAP realization. 371 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: Well, when I say that, I say that as an 372 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 5: American citizen first, Okay, as an American citizen knowing how 373 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 5: important this issue is. It would be quite a historical 374 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: moment for the United States, and we would be seen 375 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: as leading into the post disclosure world, which is going 376 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 5: to be a whole The world is going to change 377 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. So there's that. But the 378 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: United States by and large has been the leader of 379 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 5: the truth embargo. It's certainly in all the non authoritarative, 380 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 5: authoritative countries. Won't call them the democracies, western boyblet, how 381 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 5: you want to call them. We've led on this and 382 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 5: they have deferred to us. All right, is the nuclear power. 383 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: We've had the largest nuclear arsenal most of the last 384 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 5: twenty years. Right now, the United States and Russia are 385 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 5: virtually neck and neck, are out twelve thousand. I think 386 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: the Russia might be ahead by twenty nukes or something. 387 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 5: The China has far less than that. And we defeated 388 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 5: the Axis powers in World War Two with the largest 389 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 5: economy in the world. And so for a lot of nations, 390 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 5: they would like to see a lot of nations would 391 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 5: like to see US lead on this, and our ability 392 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: to influence the post disclosure world will be a bit greater. 393 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 5: Now that assumes that the influence we exercise will be constructive, 394 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 5: positive and going in the right direction. But if we 395 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: are not the first, then that's we're going to have 396 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 5: less influence. Whatever it's going to be, I think it's 397 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: in the best interest of all of the certainly democracies 398 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 5: that the US be first. However, or the Russia where 399 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: to go first, other heads of state will immediately follow, 400 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: and so in a very short amount of time, maybe weeks, 401 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: it goes from being a Russia thing, or a US thing, 402 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 5: or a China thing to a global thing. But again, 403 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: if it's the US, I'm not going to complain, and 404 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 5: it's probably going to be the US because so much 405 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 5: has happened, particularly politically in the United States that as 406 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: far as I'm concerned, there is no barrier now whatsoever 407 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: for our president to come forward and announce it tomorrow. 408 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 5: Now what do I mean by that in order for 409 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 5: a head of state, But let's just talk about our 410 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: president to be able to step out and say, yeah, 411 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 5: we got visitors, they've got tech, we've got some of 412 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 5: the tech. We're doing this, we're doing that. In order 413 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 5: to do that, a platform has to be built. They 414 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 5: just can't walk out in the rose garden and just 415 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 5: kind of throw it out there. Yeah, we're not alone, 416 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 5: but I got another media to go to. I'll see 417 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 5: in a couple of weeks. No, it will not go well. Yeah, 418 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 5: And that platform primarily had to be built by the Congress. 419 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 5: The citizens have done their work, they have researched it 420 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 5: to death. They've provided all kinds of massive amounts of 421 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 5: proof information. But then that information has got to get 422 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: to the Congress, and the Congress has to act on it. 423 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 5: That process really began for the first time in twenty eighteen, 424 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: so you know, it's it's been years of education going 425 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 5: on inside Congress, most of which we don't even know about, 426 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 5: and finding the Congress has to get educated at the point, well, 427 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 5: it will actually hold hearings all right and pass legislation. 428 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 5: Well it did, Weltrie and Bray remember that. And then 429 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: we had the first legislation put forward July twenty twenty 430 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: by Rubio. And then that legislation will will advance further 431 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: and expand, and then you'll have more hearings, and that 432 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: is the platform that the president has to have. 433 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: Well hold on state. Every time we have one of 434 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: these hearings, it frustrates the heck out of all of 435 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 4: us because the guy will say, Oh, I can't tell 436 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: you here, I can't tell you here, I can't tell 437 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: you in an open forum. So we don't get any 438 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 4: of the good stuff. So supposedly these guys take them 439 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: in the skiffs. Has that been happening. I know that 440 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 4: as of recently, maybe it's happened in the last thirty days. 441 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: David Grush has never even gone into a skiff, and 442 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 4: it's been two years since he appeared before Congress. So 443 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: what's going on with the skiffs. 444 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 5: He was supposed to go in in the twenty seventh 445 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 5: of April, but they had to cancel it and then 446 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: they moved it to the end of May. But let's educate. 447 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: What is a skiff? You know what a skiff is. 448 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: I believe it's a secure area where you can talk. 449 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: There's no radios in there, there's no signal, there's no phone. 450 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: It's a private area where you can talk to somebody 451 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: off the you know, openly. 452 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 5: No, you know, just yeah, that's it. But I got 453 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 5: a better explanation. It gets smart. It's the cone of silence. 454 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 5: It is the cone of silence. That's what it is. 455 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 5: It's simply a place where people who can say something 456 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: have the clearance to say something to people who have 457 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: the clearance to hear that something can be in a 458 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 5: place where nobody else can hear it. 459 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: That's all right, now, isn't it true that some of 460 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: these Congress people don't have that clearance? Steven That's one 461 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: of the problems. 462 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: There's clearance levels vary between Congress, depending upon whether what committee, 463 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: or on whether you're chairman or ranking, and whether you're 464 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 5: one of the So. 465 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: Somebody can get in there and hear all of this 466 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: from these guys. 467 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 5: Again, to somebody, Is there somebody in Congress with the 468 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 5: clearance to hear anything and everything from anybody? I don't know. 469 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 5: But it's then we make a big thing out of this. 470 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 5: Believe me, there have been plenty, plenty and plenty of 471 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 5: skiffs that we don't know about and we'll never know about. 472 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: But in this case, because the issue is so intensely 473 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: engaged by the public and the media, and because the 474 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 5: members of Congress now are competing to get attention for 475 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: their efforts here because they see and this is very important, 476 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: very significant political capital coming from it. And so they're competing, 477 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: and so they're going to have a skiff. They want 478 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 5: to announce they're going to have one, And so the 479 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 5: skiff process is straightforward. Members of Congress, why would you 480 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 5: do it? If you're if you're a part of a committee, 481 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 5: you bring key people in. They're able to tell you 482 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: things that they're not going to be able to say 483 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 5: in that hearing, even if you have the clearance to 484 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: hear it. But by by having it at least being 485 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 5: told to them where they can say it, you can 486 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 5: take you can use that information to make to decide 487 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 5: how to shape the hearing, who to bring, questions to ask, 488 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: and do it right. It's all part of the process. 489 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: Nothing unusual about it. And so but in terms of 490 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: the managers of the truth embargo, obviously, if they have 491 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 5: the ability to influence avoiding a skiff happening, they're preventing 492 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 5: certain information from being given a member of Congress. There's 493 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 5: been some of that pushback, but they're losing. She's going 494 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 5: to hold this gift. She just announced it. It's going 495 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 5: to happen she's announced two more hearing. I'm talking now 496 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 5: about Anna Paulina uh Luna. 497 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was going to be in May. It was 498 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 4: going to be on I think, and then they moved 499 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 4: it to what July. 500 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: It's gonna be non June. I believe it's gonna be sometime. First. 501 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 5: They need the skiff. That's one of the reasons they 502 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 5: delayed too. They didn't get the skiff on the twenty 503 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 5: seventh of April. So and and here's another unprecedented thing. 504 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: Annapoline a Luna is trying to get this skiff and 505 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: holding more herrings. Why because they set up the first 506 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 5: task force ever in the Congress on this issue. The 507 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 5: task force this is his name, to declassify government secrets. Okay, 508 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 5: this is a task force that could easily take fifty 509 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 5: billion bucks and work for the next twenty years. That's 510 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 5: how many government secrets they are. But this was specifically 511 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: set up to get after the UEP issue, but for 512 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 5: obvious political reasons, they included the JFK records a RFK 513 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: and so forth. And so they are they're building a 514 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: truth movement here and they and she was made the 515 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 5: chairman of that task force with potential of pi subpoena 516 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 5: power if it's provided by Comer, who's the chairman of 517 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 5: the committee. And so this task force all new thing. 518 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: And now that is also part of what's going on 519 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 5: now when you add all of this together and the 520 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 5: statement's being made publicly Burchett and others, and Davis and 521 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 5: put Off and Gary Nolan, who's gone on Fox News 522 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 5: I think and said there's ets here. Right, you add 523 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 5: all this together and the platform is built. The president 524 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 5: can walk on that platform tomorrow. 525 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: So what do you think is going to happen now? 526 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: Do you think we're going to get more We keep 527 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: hearing there's more whistleblowers standing by to come forward. Do 528 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: you think that this is just a building up momentum 529 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: like a big wave, and eventually it will lead to 530 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: disclosures that you're training whistleblowers. 531 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: We're witness and not all our whistle blowers. Most are witnesses. 532 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 5: But it's raining witnesses and whistleblowers can't keep up. There 533 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: may be an odd you know off, you know not, 534 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 5: and there may be an odd doubt a person coming 535 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 5: forward that's really not Legit doesn't matter, but they're coming forward. 536 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 5: I haven't got time to analyze them. The Internet analyzism. 537 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 5: So you come forward and the Internet immediately dives in 538 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: there and takes every heart. Yeah, thanks, you out. And 539 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: so you know, if you want to fake the all 540 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 5: witness thing, go ahead, But I'm telling you, by the 541 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: time the Internet gets done with you, you're just gonna 542 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 5: limp off into the sunset. So they're coming forward fast. 543 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: Ninety percent of everything is probably legit. 544 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: It is very telling. We need to stop here, Steve. 545 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 4: We're going to come back, have one more, one more 546 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: segment with Steve Gast. You are listening to Beyond Contact 547 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 548 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: We are back on Beyond Contact. Captain Ron here talking 549 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: to Steve Bassett. So, Steve, where are you at now? 550 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: You think that that was the first little canary in 551 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: the coal mine, that's. 552 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 5: The fiftieth canary in a coal mine? Okay? It was 553 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 5: for me the definitive confirmation of what I believe is happening. 554 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 5: And so now the stage is set and the truth 555 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 5: of the fact the matter is is that the ability 556 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: of those within that are managing the truth and barbo, 557 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 5: whether it they're at the d I A seek the 558 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 5: Tartner defense defense, whether at the CIA, whether they're in 559 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 5: a defense contractor or over the Atomic Energy Commission, whatever, 560 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: the ability of them to keep this under reps is 561 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: virtually collapsed, and I think they know that it's only 562 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: a matter of time now. Now there's a number of 563 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 5: reasons to stall a little bit. Some stalling maybe because 564 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 5: there are a lot of things going on in the 565 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 5: world that are pretty dangerous. All right, well, I'll question 566 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 5: serious stuff, and some may say like hold off, hold 567 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 5: off a little longer. Maybe because some of these things 568 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: settled down a little bit, I can get that others 569 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 5: are gonna are gonna would like to stall because they're 570 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 5: not ready to retire yet and they're really not looking 571 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 5: forward to answer answering any questions after disclosure takes place. 572 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 5: I mean a lot. We're gonna take a vacation. They're 573 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 5: going to go, you know, to Europe for a while, 574 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 5: because there are a bazillion questions that are going to 575 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 5: be asked over and over again of anybody and everybody 576 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 5: connected to this issue, past or present, and. 577 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: Lawsuits file right now, and lawsuits filed. 578 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 5: I don't think so. No, no, no, you. 579 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: Ruined my grandfather's life. He saw the thing at Roswell. 580 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 4: You condemned him, you told him he couldn't talk, you 581 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: swore him the secrecy. He sat in the chair and 582 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: didn't move for twenty years. That would really like a 583 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 4: lot of people. 584 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: Now, it's going to be like, you know, Mike, you 585 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 5: know you you've drafted my grandfather and sent him off 586 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: to World War two and he was killed. I'm suing you. No, 587 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 5: the truth embargo, everything about is a absolute national security 588 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 5: government policy, and everything that was done is in service 589 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 5: to that policy, and so suing it would be an 590 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 5: utter waste of time. 591 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: You insulate some from that from what about the idea 592 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 4: that people like doctor Greer say that these unacknowledged projects 593 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: aren't with congressional oversight, which is not part of our 594 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: constitution and therefore illegal. 595 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: Fine, then let him litigate that. But what you were 596 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: complying was they'll just be you know, it's going to 597 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 5: be reigning lawsuits. No, it's not. And one of the 598 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 5: reasons is this, This is a profound, transformative event of 599 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 5: unprecedented implications, the biggest paradigm shift in history ever. Yeah, 600 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 5: most everybody, with a few exceptions, are going to be 601 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 5: absolutely focused on one thing. How much more can you 602 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 5: tell me? What do you have? What do you know? 603 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 5: What about the tech? How can that help us? Right? 604 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 5: What are these beings like? What's going on? Not? Who 605 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 5: can I sue? I assure you. And so it's it's 606 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 5: going to be. That is not going to be an issue. 607 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 5: And so they they and so the ones that are 608 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 5: stalling is because they some are stalling because they don't 609 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 5: want to ask the answer the tough question. I don't 610 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 5: blame them, but it'll be it'll be better than they think. 611 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 5: Right netherwords, most people are mad now, not because we 612 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 5: haven't we don't know that there's any presence, because a 613 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 5: lot of people absolutely know. I know, but because they've 614 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 5: lied for so long that they've kept it from them 615 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 5: that they it's incredibly frustrating, And it is. It is 616 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 5: probably the problem. It's it's it's it's undermining trusting government 617 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 5: and so forth. Most people are mad about being lied 618 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: to for seventy eight years. 619 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: This is what I'm getting at. What if they say, okay, 620 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 4: and now we've got these craft and now we have 621 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 4: free energy, Well, you've kept that from us and made 622 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 4: us burn all this oil and spend all this money 623 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: and pollute the planet. That that, to me is a 624 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: heck of a backlash. 625 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 5: Let us simply say that some intellectuals and some app 626 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 5: them thinks we'll talk about that. Some people will raise 627 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 5: the point, but they're going to be much more interested 628 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 5: in if you're right, when does the free energy get 629 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 5: hooked up. It's just then the frustration that is built 630 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 5: up over the decades, which is great, there's no question 631 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 5: about it. It just lets the air out of it. 632 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 5: Once the confirmation comes, the frustration is over. We've got it. Okay, 633 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 5: it was unpleasant, I'm angry. I wish my dad could 634 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 5: have seen it, and so forth and so forth. But 635 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 5: that is true life. You can list a thousand things 636 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 5: that way. What if we didn't Now, I don't want 637 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 5: to go there. But the point is that I'm not 638 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: worried about the post disclosure world on the public side. 639 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: What I'm worried about is what the big players, the 640 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 5: big institutions, the big corporations and governments do post disclosure, 641 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 5: and that's where the public has got to get involved. 642 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 5: That's my work. Paradigm Research Group is helping to inform 643 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 5: the public and also helping to point out what they 644 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 5: should do. Danny Shean's doing the same thing, and others 645 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 5: are doing the same thing. You've got a power. Shit, 646 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 5: what are you going to do with it? Right? Can 647 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 5: you handle it? Are you going to just go back 648 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 5: to just, you know whatever, let the government read to 649 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 5: build the nuke the post paradigm world like the old one, 650 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 5: or are you going to try to make sure that 651 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 5: whatever is encapsulated in this extraordinary change will be used 652 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 5: to benefit us. This is going to be a moment 653 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 5: in history unlike any we've ever seen. We're going to 654 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 5: be able to be part of it. The question is 655 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 5: are you ready to be part of it? And how 656 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 5: it ultimately turns out? I don't know, But there's one 657 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 5: thing I do know. One of the reasons we must 658 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 5: get this done is because we're closing in on a 659 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 5: nuclear event. It's going to happen, probably even if we 660 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 5: get disclosure. Somebody's gonna nukee somebody. It's just literally right 661 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 5: there in front of us, and it's almost understood, and 662 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 5: that would be bad. If we have a new before disclosure, 663 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 5: it's going to be worse. God knows where it's going 664 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 5: to go. But if we get disclosure and we've moved 665 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 5: into that world, that post disclosure world, when okay, we're 666 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 5: not alone, God knows what's out there. We're going to 667 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 5: learn a lot. The future looks very interesting. And a 668 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 5: nuke event takes place because some idiot gets drunk and 669 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 5: launches a tactical shell, the response will be better. We 670 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 5: will deal with it better. We'll step back and say, okay, 671 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 5: that was bad. You killed a lot of people there 672 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 5: in that city. We have stupid mistake, but we're not 673 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 5: going to all go nuts and start firing off news. 674 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 5: In other words, the post disposure world is absolutely essential 675 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 5: for a lot of reasons, not the least that you. 676 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 4: Don't think that would happen in a predisclosure world. 677 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 5: That a new event at any time. I mean, so 678 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 5: many high level people have been kept telling us this 679 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 5: and talking about it and writing about it. So many 680 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 5: high officials in Russia have actually said they're willing to 681 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 5: do it. All right, So what right? Yeah, it's really close. 682 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 5: The people that are in the know know this. The 683 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 5: Bulletin of Atomic Scientists moved that clock to sixty and 684 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 5: then fifty nine sectors of midnight for a reason. We 685 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 5: are very close. People don't like to think about it. 686 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 5: I get that it's really bad. But the truth is, 687 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 5: if you objectively look at what's going on right now, 688 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 5: it could happen tomorrow. There are tactical nuclear shells in 689 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 5: the field, and a nuclear shell doesn't make a huge explosion, 690 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 5: but it's a nuclear event. What's the response going to be. 691 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 5: We've never had to deal with that. We've gotten away 692 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 5: with this for seventy eight years to eighty years, since 693 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 5: we dropped two nukes in Japan and killed two hundred 694 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 5: thousand people. Boom like that, we've managed to avoid and 695 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 5: we think, well, since we've avoided it for seventy eight years, 696 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 5: it could never happen wrong. Things have gotten worse. Before 697 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 5: the Cold War ended, we had probably less chance of 698 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 5: a nuclear war in those last couple of years, and 699 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 5: we have now. The world right now is far more 700 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 5: unstable than it was in nineteen eighty seven or eighty eight. 701 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 5: The number of nukes has gone down, but the delivery 702 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 5: systems cut really hot, and better delivery systems means more 703 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 5: first strike capability. First strike capability is the most aaronoic 704 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 5: thing you can imagine. Country A knows that Country B's 705 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 5: got a first strike that could hit you before you 706 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 5: can respond Country B knows the same thing. Maybe we 707 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 5: should start first. Hypersonic delivery systems insane. Yeah, my job 708 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 5: is to pay attention to this and to tell it now. 709 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 5: If you want to get it from Zahei Sikari, you're 710 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 5: not going to get it. If you're going to get 711 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 5: it from some of the other standard people online, you're 712 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 5: not going to talk about this. They just can't. I'm 713 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: not criticizing them. I'm simply saying that this is a 714 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 5: scary world and there's not much benefit to your career 715 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 5: or your paycheck by going on TV and telling people 716 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 5: how period is. 717 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 4: Steve a lot of time here, brother, We got to stop, 718 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 4: but I appreciate you getting us all updated again, and 719 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll have you back and go over more 720 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 4: as this continues to move forward. 721 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 5: I'm waiting for that podcast to change his name, your 722 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 5: podcast to a this gloat. 723 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 4: I would love to see it, my brother. All right, 724 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: we'll talk soon. Paradigm Research Group dot org. Defind Steve, 725 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 4: find me at Twitter and Instagram, at c t D 726 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: Underscore Captain Ron. Stay connected by checking out contactingthedesert dot com. 727 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 4: Stay open minded and rational as we explore the unknown, 728 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 4: right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am 729 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 4: Paranormal Podcast Network. 730 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 731 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 732 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 733 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com