1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian much as everyone's a fan of hybrids, and 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: they're all thrilled too. I'm driving a hybrid. I'm saving 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: the planet. Are you? You're trying to do your part 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: your carbon footprint? And if you have a hybrid, God 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: bless your three card and let stay up. Math you 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: have a time in my car. I can't thinking about 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: the things to the wind drowning. The Car Doctor, A 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: comparable repair on a non hybrid ULTIMU is half that 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: owners the world over turned to for their definitive opinion 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage orders 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your call 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six. And now that's why 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: there's not committing NASCAR hybrid rates and NASCAR hybrid races 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: will be like here, Henny, Well here we are again, folks. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome Mornini and the Car Doctor. Come on in, 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: sit down, let's pull up a stool and talk cars. 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: That's what this radio show is all about. 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UH, the Car Doctor 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: podcast is Google has started playing their podcast at Google Play. 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: And then we're just trying to do our best to 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: come up with different ways to put information into your 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: ears and into your mind so that you understand that 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: thing that you think is a car, that I think 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: is a big role in computer that's out in your driveway. UM. 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: Interesting point too. I should start before we begin the show, 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: and I guess we have begun. The show went to 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: class this week on electronic power steering and it was 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: interesting put on by a C Delco UH, sponsored by 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: the folks at by Wise Auto Parts here in New Jersey. 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Thanks again to the guys at by Wise. And they 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: they asked in the beginning, who's working on electronic power steering? 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I raised my hand. I've seen a couple of them, 60 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of problems yet, because it's it's 61 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: for the reason I'm gonna give you in a minute. 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Not a lot of guys out of the d raise 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: their hands, and I'm thinking, well, I guess I'm not alone. 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: And he said, he said, how come, you know, out 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: of a dred and twenty mechanics in this room. Half 66 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: a dozen of you raised your hands, and I raised 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: my hand, and I said, because the majority of the 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: electronic power steerings are under a recall by General Motors 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: two thousand five Malibu Classic example, the car the wife drives, 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: that electronic power steering is under a recall if and 71 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: when it ever has a problem. Now, General Motors extended 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: the warranty on those ten years, hundred and fifty thousand miles. Well, 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: now it's out of warranty, so I guess when it breaks, 74 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: I'll have to fix it. But the point being that 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: a lot of these haven't been out of warranty, they've 76 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: been under extended recalling a lot of applications. And it's 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, the point being that you look at the technology. 78 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: It took ten years before that vehicle became a concern, 79 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: and the guy from mac Delco knew it. And this 80 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: is my point. It took ten years for that car 81 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: to be on the road before they said, you know what, 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: these are out a warranty. They're gonna start to see him. 83 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to service them. Let's start to educate them. 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: A little bit more than they have been in the past, 85 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and explain some of the intricacies of the system. And 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: you look at that and you say, look at the technology. 87 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: You know, cars really have gotten better this week at 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: the shop. Harry pointed it out to me on Friday, 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: and it wasn't an anomaly, It's something I've been noticing 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: and I've been saying this for a long time. Friday 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: we had five cars with check engine lights, one oil 92 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: change and to break jobs. And he looked at me 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: and he said, this is the first Friday I can 94 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: remember where you've got so many check engine lights. Because 95 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: we usually like to do diagnostics in the beginning of 96 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: the weekend. We did diagnostics all through the week. There 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: were check engine light cars every day this week. But 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: he said, look at how it's starting to flip. You're 99 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: doing more oil changes. Are you' doing more check engine 100 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: light cars than oil changes on a regular basis? And 101 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, it's you can see the transition. You 102 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: can see if this was the eighteen nineties into the 103 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: nineteen tens. You're seeing the blacksmith go away and and 104 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: and shooting, the horse going away, and the automobile coming 105 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: into its own you're you're at that point in history 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: right here, right now, you're watching it happen. I noticed 107 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: driving this morning. I went to the chiropractice like I 108 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: do every Saturday, and then off to the deli for 109 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: for breakfast, and a lot of new cars on the road, 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: a lot of new cars. And you can tell you 111 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: know new cars real quick. Just look at the inspection 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: sticker here in New Jersey you see that, And I'm 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: sure other states you know you tell by inspection sticker 114 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: or some other way. Everybody's got a quick way. Gee 115 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: that's a new car. That's a new car. That's a 116 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: new car. But yet when you talk to repair shops, 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: everybody's quiet. The North East is struggling through one of 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: the quietest time periods in order to repair that I've 119 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: seen in a long, long time. So much so that 120 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: on Tuesday I had a two thousand three Honda Civic 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: with a check engine light on. Remember I told you 122 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: I had a few and it was an evaporative emissions problem. 123 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: I needed a chart called canister and a bypass solenoid 124 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and event valve, and first time ever I called the 125 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: Honda dealer. First time the Honda dealer asked me, are 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: you busy? And I went, excuse me, not that it's 127 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: a but it's just weird. This is the Honda dealer. 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: You know, this is like the holy grail of what 129 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: everybody wants to drive. And I said, well, you know, 130 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I've got cars. I'm okay. We're kind of trugging along. 131 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: It's it's not like two thousand seven, two thousand eight, 132 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: before the before the bust. But you know, we've got 133 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: enough to keep us busy. And we're filling the day 134 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: and we're a couple of days out and so on. 135 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: I said, why he goes? He goes it's quiet, and 136 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: this is a pretty good sized Honda dealer the neighborhood. 137 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: And they said it's quiet so much so that the 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: owners in and he's walking the floor and it's it's 139 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue. And in his exchange 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: with me, he said, sales are off. Used car sales 141 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: are off, parts are off, services off. And I said, 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: why why do you think that is? He said, just 143 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the cars are getting better. He said there's nothing for 144 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the service department to really sell people beyond the oil change. 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: And he said the oil change is going so long 146 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: now because people are falling into that longer oil change interval. 147 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: He said, we're in a cycle. Now. What he said 148 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: that was really interesting to me was what they're noticing 149 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: is the newer cars, and by newer I mean the 150 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: cars that are three or four years old that are 151 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: on that longer oil change cycle, that if they keep 152 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: the car past the seventy eight thousand mile mark, which 153 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I realized is ridiculous, like who would get rid of 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: a car at that age? But at that stage of 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: the game, he's saying, they're noticing the cars that on 156 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: the longer oil change intervals. They're the cars that are 157 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: has still have there. They're starting to have engine issues 158 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: and oil consumption and problems and you know, longer oil 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: change drain ovals. Maybe maybe that's the issue. Bottom line, 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: The technology is it's it's like a Star Trek episode. 161 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: It's just you're just watching things flash by the speed 162 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: of light. And I think the auto industry is on 163 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: a warp speed max out, coming to the point of 164 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: technology where it's radically going to alter what we perceive 165 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: and see as auto repair in the coming years. You know, 166 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: I heard the opening monologue, and you know, can you 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: imagine hybrids and NASCAR? I thought about that hybrids and NASCAR, 168 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: it would sound like, you know, forty three vacuum cleaners 169 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: going around the track, whish whish, whish, sh sh sh 170 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: rush rush, And it just makes you think that the 171 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: technology is reaching the point where if everybody was driving 172 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: a hybrid, if everybody was into technology like that, and 173 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: there was no need for the corner repair shop, for 174 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: the dealership with forty service base, how will that impact 175 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: the economy of the country. You know, I think the 176 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: numbers like I think the automotive aftermarket and the automotive 177 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: industry constitutes of the automotive of the American economy, and 178 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: I don't know that we're ready for that change. Can 179 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: you imagine over time what this is gonna look like 180 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: when we don't need the snap on tool truck, the 181 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: mac tool truck, the uniform guy, the building maintenance guy, 182 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the I mean, the list goes on and on. The 183 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: guy who makes the sandwiches and the luncheon net because 184 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: nobody's repairing cars like that, We're all working from home 185 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: doing whatever in the twenty one century. Kind of makes 186 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: you wonder. But I guess warning sign will be that 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the first time they do run a NASCAR race and 188 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: you hear whish whish, whish, whish wish. You know, the 189 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: hybrids took over, and so did the technology. Eight five 190 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running 191 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We'll be back right after this. Okay, Hey, 192 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: welcome back on n of the Car Doctor. Here at 193 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero Car 194 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com for more information. Let's get over 195 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: to the busy phone lines and let's welcome. First of all, 196 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: say hello to Fast Harry, Fast Harry, Fast Harry. See 197 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: everybody wants to say a lot to Fast Harry. How 198 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: are you, Harry? Good? What's up? Rong? Well, before we 199 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: go to our first call, I do have a question 200 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: for you beginning next week, um, and I should point 201 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: this out to everybody. Fast Harry is the hardest working 202 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: producer in show business. He really is. Well, no, he 203 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: really is, because beginning next week Harry will have the 204 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: eBay store up. Isn't that correct, Harry? Not an eBay store, 205 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: but a listing and a bay listing. Okay, So that's 206 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: why I have him, folks. He keeps me on the 207 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: straight and narrow outside the world of word to repair 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: um and explain to us. How exactly is that going 209 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: to work. We're putting up a T shirt listing so 210 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: we can start with T shirts right people. And the 211 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: problem is everybody just wants when we can't even get 212 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: the questions on air fast enough. So we're just gonna 213 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: make them available for selling. If you want to buy 214 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: when you can, Um, how's it gonna work. Well, they'll 215 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: search our I D or they'll search car Doctor T 216 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: shirt and they'll see your user i D which is 217 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: car Doctor Radio. That's his, that's Ron's eBay user i D. 218 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: It's actually up there. Now you go there, there's nothing 219 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: listed yet, and then they'll be able to buy one. 220 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: There'll be five separate listings for each sized T shirt 221 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: and uh, and they can buy it and they can 222 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: use PayPal and they can use PayPal and uh, we'll 223 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: get it to go. We'll give it a go and 224 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: make it. We'll make it like that. And then I think, also, 225 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, we have hats. We can put hats up 226 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: there too. I don't know if everybody's into hats, but yeah, 227 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: we can put put hats up there, and hats and 228 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: T shirts. We'll have six listings and that should be 229 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: up end of the week coming, yeah, end of the week. Okay, 230 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: cool beans? All right? Good, If you're lucky, you might 231 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: get to see me model a T shirt. Well, we 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: actually want people to buy these. I'm selt. Well that's true. 233 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: So you could be the male model, right, and we'll 234 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: have to get them to be the female model. There 235 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: you go. I knew you. We used to be nice 236 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: to each other over there? Are you guys ready to 237 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: do radio again? I'm ready to go? We actual naide? 238 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I just want to point that up radio? What's that? Yeah? 239 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Who do you got from me? Online? One? All right? 240 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: So our first caller is Frank. He's cold in a 241 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: few times before, you know, Frank from Rockland, New York. 242 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: And he's where do we go with all these computers 243 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: in these cars? Where is it all coming to? Which 244 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: is what you were talking about the first part of 245 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: the hour? Boy? Let me tell you, hey, Frank, welcome back. 246 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: We're on any of the car doctors, sir? What's going on? 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: I love it? Love it. We're in a shirt now, 248 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe summertime we get some painttop and do 249 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: it that way and let's let them put that on 250 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: but in a different way. And I'm not going to 251 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: go that way. Yeah, yeah, so listen, I'm with you 252 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: on that. Where are we going with this shut off? 253 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: Back in the day, back in the day, and you're 254 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: just you are on cue on cue. Back in the day, 255 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: we change the oil and garage, we would put it 256 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: dead do there. Now it's getting to the point where 257 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: maybe we can just change the air filter like I 258 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: talked about weeks ago or what you know, Frank, I'll 259 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: tell you how bad it's getting. When when I was 260 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: at class Wednesday night, we were talking and you know, 261 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: we usually start the classes with a and and these 262 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: these these folks that put it on by wise with 263 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: DELCA to do an excellent job. I can't say enough 264 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: about it in terms of the seminar and the presentation. 265 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: And Ryan, one of the one of the principles in 266 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: the company, has been working with legislators in Washington. Because 267 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: now here's the new game plan. We're gonna start talking 268 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: about this as I know more. As a matter of fact, 269 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: I've got Ryan and the Wings in the next couple 270 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: of weeks. We've got them warming up because I wanted 271 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: to come on here and talk about it. So the rough, 272 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: the rough edges of this conversation were that. Are you 273 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: familiar with the Right to Repair Act? What that was? Okay, 274 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: that's a lot of people out there. That's why I'm 275 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: bringing this out. Well, here here's the deal. We're looking, 276 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: like you said before, you know that we're getting cause 277 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: all these new cars on the road, and perhap you 278 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: know we used to change our oil but miles right right, 279 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: Well now here, listen, let's listen up in front. Hang second. 280 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: So the Right to Repair Act was legislation that required it. 281 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: It was voted on in past. It requires the auto 282 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: manufacturers to allow access to repair information and what was 283 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: at one point proprietary scan tool technology to anyone that's 284 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: willing to step up and pay for it. It does 285 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: come at a price, all right. Now. The only manufacturers 286 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: kind that don't like that, they do, and they don't. Yes, 287 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: it does. You know, as an independent shop, they know 288 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: that when somebody asks me what kind of car to buy, 289 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: as people do all the time, I'm going to really 290 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: lean that fence towards not only cars that are good, 291 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: but also cars that I can reasonably get information on. 292 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the name of this game is 293 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: all about money. We know that, all right. Concept people 294 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: just people just want to drive cars. I mean, it's 295 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: it's not hard to conceive that. We just want to 296 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: get back and forth the work and the river. We're going. 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: The new storm on the horizon since they've been forced 298 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: to give us information. The news storm on the horizon 299 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: is that somewhere in the next five years, there's conversation 300 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: that the diagnostic connector that we all know under the 301 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: dash where the scan tool plugs in, yeah, on the 302 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: driver's side right, is going to is going to disappear. 303 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: And the way we're the way that the dealer is 304 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: going to diagnose and connect to that vehicle is through 305 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Bluetooth technology and when you drive through the link link, 306 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: you drive to the front door. Well to a degree, 307 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: but but here's the bigger here's the bigger problem. It's 308 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna be Bluetooth technology. So it's going to be very 309 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: proprietary because now when you purchase a vehicle in the 310 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: coming five years, the position of the car companies that 311 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: this is what they're lobbying for. And the ducks are 312 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: already being lined up as I explained this that and 313 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: no one's aware of it. And we're gonna have Ryan 314 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: on to talk about this because I want everyone to 315 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: start calling their congressmen and their elected officials to you know, 316 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: make them aware of their discontent. If they're so discontented 317 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: that when you buy that new car in the coming years, 318 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: you're buying the hardware. You're purchasing that car like a computer, 319 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: but the software that the software that runs it is 320 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: licensed to the vehicle manufacturer and they're not letting that 321 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: license out to anybody. Just like Microsoft and Windows. You 322 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: buy a new computer, it's got a Microsoft operating system 323 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: on it. Same thing right there, locking everybody out. And 324 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen to cars. It's not gonna happen tomorrow, 325 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: but there's talk within the next three to five years 326 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna be dealing with. And that 327 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: means for guys like you, the hood is effectively electronically locked. 328 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Maybe you won't even be able to change the air filter. 329 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna construe it so that in order to 330 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: unlock the latch on the air filter housing, you're gonna 331 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: have to hit a chip on the a button on 332 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: the scan tool that connects Blue Bluetooth in order to 333 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: change that or maintain it. Trust me, it's it's it's 334 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: it's this is what's going on because as we're doing 335 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: what we're doing here might not causes I'm a vomtire finding. 336 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: We'll fight that causes. Up here in the background, we 337 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: got lobbyists doing what they're doing for the big business people. 338 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: And it's it's a shame. And here's and here's the 339 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: and here's the word problem where just attracted. You and 340 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: I are just a couple of working guys. We're distracted 341 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: by trying to survive. And while we're trying to survive, 342 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: the noise in the background is keeping us from seeing 343 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: what's really going on, and that is that they're after 344 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: our wallet once again. And it's still a problem when 345 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: it comes to cars. Always follow the money in order 346 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: to repair. In anything in the automotive business, it's all 347 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: about the dollar. So um, good conversation, Frank, keep them coming. 348 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being there and if anything I can 349 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: do to help you or anyone else you just guys 350 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: know where to find me Rand at Car Doctor show 351 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: dot com. I'll be back right after this. Don't go away. 352 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: A welcome back, Ron and Needing in the Car Doctor 353 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: at your service at six your own nine nine zero 354 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: zero let's get over to the busy phones. Talk to 355 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Andrew and Ramsey, New Jersey. Andrew, Welcome to the car doctor. 356 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: How can I help? How are you doing good? Just 357 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: a question? Uh? I have a two thousand and ten 358 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: super ref stir. I had taken an end for some 359 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: recall repairs at while at the dealer and they were 360 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: doing it. They do their inspection of everything, and they said, oh, 361 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: your breaks. Your rear brakes are four millimeters. They should 362 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: be replaced. I was like, all right, you know I 363 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: usually take it to my dealer, my mechanics, so I 364 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: took it over is to get an estimate, and uh 365 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: what what? What I want to know is the pads 366 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: are covered? I always know excuse me, go ahead, what say? 367 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: What Andrew? The pads are usually covered? Um, but I 368 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: want to know do you always have to replace the rotors? 369 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: When you say the pads are covered? What do you 370 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: mean the pads are covered? Well, they're they're lifetime. Went 371 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: through my mechanic. They're like, okay, replace them for free, 372 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: right okay, So what you're saying is your mechanic offers 373 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: to replace the brake pads for free, but then he 374 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: wants to charge you. To either replace or machine the rotors. Yes, 375 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: and they were just thought about a year ago February 376 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: of last year. So is it always necessary to have 377 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: the rotors replaced it or just put new pads on? 378 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Here's here's here's here. Here's my thoughts on this. All right, 379 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: and this is forty three years of fixing cars talking 380 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: first of all, all right, brake pads always need a 381 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: fresh surface to seat against. Okay, so when you when 382 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: you replace pads without doing anything to rotors, whether your 383 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: machine or replace them, then you're really just asking for 384 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: trouble because the the brake pad has to be scuffed 385 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: to wake it up. In a sense. Think of it 386 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: like this. They finish it to a certain level, and 387 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: they wanted scuffed up so that it's I always think 388 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: of it in my mind is activated, so the juices flow. 389 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: But that's not really what happens. But it's the idea 390 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: that the pads wake up and they take a certain 391 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: set so that they get the best coefficient of friction, 392 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: they get the best drag. When you hit the brakes, 393 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: they stop, they grip. You know, if you ever notice 394 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: breaks to a point, you ever take a ride up 395 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: a mountain, drive you ever come down skyline driving West 396 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Milford and you notice when you get to the bottom 397 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: of the mountain how hard the brakes are working, and 398 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: sometimes you lose breaking ability. You you've overheated the brake pad, 399 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: not by intention, but just by it such a steep decline. 400 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: You're just you're coming straight down for two miles, right, 401 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: So you've you've you've overheated the pad. Okay, break pads 402 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: will work within a certain heat range. And the idea 403 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: is that the scuff when you put on a fresh 404 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: set of pads and either machine or replace the rotors, 405 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: that scuff wakes the pad up. But you can always 406 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: overheat it. As I'm trying to say on skyline that 407 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: that being said, the answer to your question is, yes, 408 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: you have to do something to the pet, to the 409 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: rotors to either you know, something to scuff him to 410 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: wake him up. That's number one. Number two, all right, 411 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: most rotors today on most cars, I don't care where 412 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: they're from. I don't care if it's a Subaru or Chevy, Afford, 413 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: a christ whatever, alright, whether they're new from the manufacturer 414 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: that you know, this is the first break job at 415 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: forty miles, or it's the repetitive breake repair every forty 416 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: so you're at one twenty and you're you're doing breaks. 417 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: Most of the rotors today cannot, in my opinion, be machined, 418 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why, they're generally too thin by 419 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: the time you get to the point of doing that 420 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: break repair. That if they allow forty thousands tolerance and 421 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: for everyone's you know, benefit out there, take your thumb 422 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: and fore finger, put it a certain distance. Come in 423 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: forty thousands. That's the minimum that that rotor can be 424 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: thickness wise, so that it's considered safe and it can 425 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: handle the stress in the load of operating the car 426 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: that being said to machine these rotors, they're usually so 427 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: rust blistered, all right, and usually it's because of the 428 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: salt and the corrosive material they put down on the 429 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: roads to keep things, you know, the ice so off 430 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: the road in the snow that you're at the point 431 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: where to cut below that rust. You now made the 432 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: rotor undersize and it's unsafe, or the rotors just permanently 433 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: pimpled and acneed that it just can't be machined, so 434 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna end up replacing it. We had a let 435 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: me think what it was. We had a two thousand 436 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: eleven Toyota Corolla yesterday, pads and rotors the front and 437 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: first time doing breaks forty eight thousand miles on the car, 438 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: the front rotors were concave. The pad had it was 439 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: such a it was such a hard pad and a 440 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: softer rotor that it had had concaved the rotor so 441 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: that if you dragged your fingers across the face of 442 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: it when it was cool not hot, obviously you would 443 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: feel that outer lip and there was there was probably 444 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: a good four or five thousand's outer lip that couldn't 445 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: be cut. So you would have the machine the rotor 446 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: down to that level. And at that point there was 447 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: so much rust. The inside face of the rotor was delaminating. 448 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: You ever see it from micac counter top. Just delaminate 449 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: where the glue comes undone and it starts to lift off. 450 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: That's that's what the rotor was doing. So that's my 451 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: second argument for not machining rotors. They're just they're they're 452 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: just not of good quality to machine, all right. Third, 453 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: third and last thought. Okay, and I and I say 454 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: this as gently as I can. Everybody's got a gimmick. 455 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: There's no way anybody can guarantee breaks for life and 456 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: do that and give you something for free without knowing 457 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: they can charge you for something else. And if right, 458 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: you know what, there's no free lunch all right. I mean, listen, 459 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: you're from Jersey. You know how the game gets played on. 460 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: One thing I can say about Jersey people, there's some 461 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: of the smartest in the world because it's really rough 462 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: around here, and you've got to know how how it 463 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: things operate. Um, if they're taken with it, if they're 464 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: given with this hand, they're taken with the other. And 465 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: that's just how it works. And when you when you 466 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: add it up at the end of the day, now 467 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: you do have a legitimate argument. If the brakes were 468 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: done a year ago, what was they Okay, so it's 469 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: it's the rear brakes were done February of fifteen, So 470 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: a year and three months. It's about maybe so isn't 471 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: isn't your argument that you know, GM a good customer. 472 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: How come a year and three months out of warranty. 473 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: If it's a year warranty, I have to pay for 474 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: any of this all over again. Go back and see 475 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: what Go back and go back and see what kind 476 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: of argument he gives you. Then, um, you know, one 477 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: of the things I stressed to people is you only 478 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: get one chance to annoy a customer, and after that 479 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: they become a new customer somewhere else. My father laid 480 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: carpet for many years, and I remember as a kid 481 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: he would come home and tell my mom, you know, 482 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a new customer. There's just 483 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: somebody that got annoyed somewhere else and they had to 484 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: go elsewhere. But never, never then anything, never more than 485 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: anywhere else. Can I make this statement, believe it to 486 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: be true, and I believe it's you. In a lot 487 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: of businesses in order to repair you really get what 488 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: you pay for. And there is there's a hundred ways 489 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: for somebody to pull the wool over your eyes. But 490 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: there's only one way to do a job, regardless of money, 491 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: and that's doing it right. You do pads, you replace rotors, 492 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: you loube slides, you do a break fluid flush because 493 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: it's not about cheap, it's about safe and that's kind 494 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: of the bottom line, all right, kidd. So yep, I 495 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you're very welcome, good luck to you, and thanks 496 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: for being a fan eight by five five six zero 497 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero Running any of the Car Doctor. 498 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: We are back right after this. Yeah, welcome back Running 499 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor eight five five five six zero 500 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero the phone, right. You know, we've 501 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: come around to that portion of the show everyone looks 502 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: forward to each and every week. If you have gotten 503 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: out to the Facebook page and like the page and 504 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: then ask us a question, and we use your question 505 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: up here on air on a Ninny in the Car Doctor, 506 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a send you at a Car 507 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: Doctor t shirt. And that's just what we're about to 508 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: do now. And I think Tom's got my question for me. Tom, 509 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: do you have my question? Yes? I did. What question 510 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: do you have? Sir? Which I had a voice like his? Actually, 511 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: we have a question here from Toes Toes older brother 512 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: Tang Toes older brother Tang. That's what it says right here. Okay. 513 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like a Johnny Carson routine, you know, with 514 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Carn acting magnificence. Uh. But he asks, and this is 515 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: a great question. I have an O six Honda s 516 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: I onto Civic s I. Honda states that the O 517 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: E M Platinum plugs last one thousand miles. When should 518 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: I change my spark plugs? I love this kind of 519 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: a question, and I'll tell you why. Yeah, the manufacturer 520 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: says the plugs last a hundred thousand miles. A question 521 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: is can you get him out of the head? And 522 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: that's always the issue because you know, they're a steel 523 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: plug and an aluminum head, and over the period of 524 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: time to heat up and cool down cycles and things 525 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: get rusted and corroded. I mean, look at it, it's 526 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: a No. Six, it's ten years old. Will the plug 527 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: come out of the head? And all the money that 528 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: you saved on not having to replace the plugs is 529 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: You're going to be evaporated when you have to pull 530 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: the head after the spark plug hole strips out and 531 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: you have to repair it, and you can't repair it 532 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: on the car, and all of a sudden, it's a nightmare. 533 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: So I generally like to do the you know, the 534 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: factor in the back of my mind to be safe. 535 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: So if if it calls for it at a hundred 536 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: thousand eighty alright, eight is a pretty good number. And 537 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: then I'm real particular about what I'll replace and within 538 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: this applies for everything. You know, if they tell me 539 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: cool it is five year or any freeze, I'm looking 540 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: to replace it in four because I want to do 541 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: it before it becomes a problem. You know, auto repair 542 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: and maintenance is a lot like getting sick. You want 543 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: to avoid getting six so you have to get better. 544 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: You want to just do the maintenance beforehand so you 545 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: don't have the problem. So taking everything to the cutting 546 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: edge generally results in a little bit of a disaster 547 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: because every once in a while, something sneaks past that 548 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: you missed, or you've got that one car that that 549 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: that one of a thousand cars that it didn't work 550 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: out quite right. So letting it go to the manufacturer 551 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: respect didn't actually help you, it hurt you. And in 552 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: regards to spark plugs, if you are going to change 553 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: these plugs, here's where a product like dense So the 554 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: dense O T T spark plugs really shines because dens 555 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: when they designed the dense O T T s actually 556 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: put a lubricant on the threads to help prevent the 557 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: corrosion and locking into the head. It's actually got a 558 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: little bit of a lubricant there so that it will 559 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: help in spark plug removal when you want to change them. 560 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: The next time around, and well, well I still would 561 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: do them at the next eighty thousand mile interval. Besides 562 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: getting the best performance out of any spark plug on 563 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: the marketplace today, the dense O T T s you're 564 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: pretty sure they're gonna come out because they, unlike the 565 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: O E M plug, will have some sort of a 566 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: lubricant there to help in removal. More information at dens 567 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: O T T dot com. By the way, so listen 568 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: to his older brother Tang. I don't know what your 569 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: real name is, but we're pre shade the question and 570 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: you appreciate you being a fan out on Facebook. If 571 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: you would email me Ron at Car Doctor show dot 572 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: com your information, we'll get a car Doctor T shirt 573 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: out here. I need a dress in shirt size and 574 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: we'll get a car Doctor T shirt out to you. 575 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: And thanks for being a part of the Car Doctor 576 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Nation and for looking us up on Facebook. Let's get 577 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: over and talk to stand and just in Minnesota with 578 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: a two thousand puig parkast Stand. Welcome to the Car 579 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Doctor sir. How can I help? Yeah? Run? Just to 580 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: follow up on the last question that guy had about 581 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: those plugs, right, I have a two thousand buick uh 582 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: D engine. Right, does that does that have does that 583 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: have an alluonment hit on it? Do you know? I 584 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: believe that is cast iron? Stand But have the have 585 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: the plugs been done in it yet? You know? I 586 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: don't know because somebody using I gotta go back and 587 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: look through the book, right, and and and then the 588 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: other issue is that particular car should have spark plug 589 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: wires on it yet, So it's gonna become it's gonna 590 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: become plugs and wires. Make sure make sure that when 591 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: you change the wires you use a bit of dielectric 592 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: grease in the end of the boot. And make sure 593 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: you use a good quality plug wire to go along 594 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: with those densil plugs. Okay, all right, sir? Yeah, Should 595 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: a guy put some high high temp anti seas on 596 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: the threads Now? You don't. You don't need well, first 597 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: of all, on a dense O T T you do 598 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: not need to. There is like I said, there is 599 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: a there's a there's a lubricant impregnated into the thread 600 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: that prevents the season and goaling issue number one, number 601 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: two anti cs. You know, stand I I can't prove it, 602 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: but from my observation seat in the shop, I think 603 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: any Seas has changed the formulation over the last ten 604 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: or fifteen years to the point that I don't use 605 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: it anywhere as near as much as I used to. 606 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: What I've noticed any Seas when it gets dry and older, 607 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: they've they've either put so much glass in it, or 608 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: they've changed the formula that now it gets crumbly and 609 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: paste like, and I find it actually started to bind 610 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: and prevent removal. It became an issue. So my secret 611 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: when I want something to go in easy and come 612 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: out easy. Uh, and it's been working for the longest time, 613 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: is I just put a drop of plane old motor 614 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: oil on the threat of whatever I'm working on. The bolt, 615 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: the spark plug, if it's not a dense O T 616 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: T or I'll just put a drop of motor oil 617 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: there and you know, assemble it that way. Never had 618 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: anything come loose, never had an issue, and generally when 619 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: I need to take it apart, it comes right apart. 620 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: And the nice thing is the oil. Once it gets 621 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: into the porosity of the steel, I find that it 622 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: will be there underneath the nut where if moisture tries 623 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: to get in there, the oil break holds that barrier 624 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: back and keeps it from getting it and rusting everything together. 625 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: So um, you had a quick question, stand real quick? Yeah, 626 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: real quick? Is but you know my two thousand I have. 627 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: I have a leaky exhaust system, you know, and it's 628 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: getting worse. And I noticed that yesterday I got a 629 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: check engine late. Okay, is there any correlation between a 630 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: chick engine light? And sure, very very well could be. 631 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: If that exhaust leak is before the primary or even 632 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: the secondary oxygen sensor, there's gonna be two oxygen centers 633 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: on that. There's gonna be a pring a postcatto too 634 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: if the ox. If the exhaust leak is before either 635 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: of those, then the issue could be that you're seeing 636 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: a false air coming into the system and the two 637 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: censor isn't responding the way it should, and the the PCM, 638 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: the onboard vehicle computer has now detected, Hey, something's askew 639 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: with one or both of the O two's and it 640 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: thinks that you've got to know two censor circuit fault 641 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: when really the exhaust leak is is the culprit there, 642 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: So you know you're gonna have to get it scanned. 643 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: Pull codes. You know, you start seeing P zero one 644 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: five zero one thirty six, one thirty nine things like 645 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: that O two centsor related problems. Then you're gonna have 646 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: to take a look at the exhaust system, fix that, 647 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: and then go on and diagnose the O two is 648 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: after the fact, because you could be going through a 649 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: false diagnosis. Stan, I appreciate the call. I'm gonna pull 650 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: over and take a pause right now. I'm run a 651 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: needing of the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 652 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're on Needing the car Doctor. The phone 653 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: numbers zero nine, zero zero the car doctor number. Call 654 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: leave a message in Fast Harry our executive producer. If 655 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: we're not on the air. We're live Saturdays two to 656 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: four pm Eastern time. Fast Harry, our executive producer. We'll 657 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: call you back and put you in the lineup and 658 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: we can talk to you up here on here like 659 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: we did with everybody else this hour and help solve 660 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: your automotive problem. Just give you a little bit of 661 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: a better understanding of the automobile. And that's that's really 662 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: all we want to do. No egos here. We're just 663 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: trying to dispel information and just clear up some of 664 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: the misinformation that's out there, and there seems to be 665 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: an awful lot of it. Quick piece of email. Hey Ron, 666 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm from Western Australia. I love the podcast. You know 667 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: we're big in Australia. Tom, look at this. It's crazy right, 668 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: Um yeah, who knew? If you get the time on 669 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: your show, can you discuss my questions to be two fifty. 670 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: It's actually a Ford Ranger with a MOS the badge. 671 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: It has the six R eighty six ft automatic, the 672 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: service manual set the change the oil after two or 673 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: fifty kilometers. I think it's too long and I get 674 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this please. I look forward to listening 675 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: to your podcast. Cheers from Roger down under Roger. Yeah, 676 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: and listen. I converted a kilometers is about a hundred 677 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: and sixty thousand miles. A hundred and sixty thousand miles 678 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: on the original trans fluid. I think the manufacturers out 679 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: of their minds, and I think you've got to look 680 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: at a lot of things, especially uh, you know, environment 681 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 1: and moisture and a slew of other factors. I would 682 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: be changing that trans fluid at the latest a hundred 683 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: thousand miles and realistically more along the lines of every 684 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: sixty thousand miles until the next time I'm run any 685 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 686 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: See up