WEBVTT - Swimming With The Sharks w/ Radha Mitchell 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.359 Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.160 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.600 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:16.919 Done done. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.040 Hello, that's messed up an SVU podcast. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.040 I'm Lee as a Trigger and I'm Kara Klank And 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:40.880 every week it's SVU recaps, it's true crime, deep dives, 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.839 it's chats with actors and other celebs, and in the 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.600 beginning it's just catching up and chit chatting. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.120 Well, and now it's just you know, the countdown to 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:50.720 the Emmys. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.360 I mean, I can't wait to see what happens. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.640 It's really fucking exciting. I'm really pumped. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.480 And as everybody on this podcast should know, this has 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:05.560 been HQ for manifesting Marishka hosting Saturday Night Live, which 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:08.200 now feels like it has to happen. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.280 When are the Emmys? 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.120 I think September sixteenth, but that's off the top of 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.720 my head. Who knows, Okay, Okay, let's see if I 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:21.400 was right. Okay, Emy's twenty twenty six, September fourteenth. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.600 Class bad not too far off? 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.600 Yeah, I wonder if you know, it's like obviously she's 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.400 a giant star. I'm beloved by many. But it is 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.160 like she is having a moment, you know what I mean? Yeah, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:32.919 like it is. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.640 Kind of like a peak thrill of a moment where 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.200 everyone's everyone's feeling it. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.440 Yeah, And I mean the thing is is that this 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.360 Unfortunately I don't think SNL starts till after that time. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.480 But hopefully they'll still have her on. What do you 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.760 mean Unfortunately they wouldn't have her on before. I think 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.960 they would as she's got a problem. No, no, because 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.000 they have never had her. They don't want her. That's 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.120 the problem. That's the issue. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.360 It's been twenty seven seasons, right, But like. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.120 If the these are on NBC and they're trying to 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.800 promote the Emmys, I think they would have. 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.440 Her my inside scoop as Lauren hates women. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.760 Oh okay, well there's something new like count the hosts. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:15.239 Count the hosts? How many women versus men? He doesn't? Yeah, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:17.560 well what did what did I get? 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.560 He wants them thin and miserable and and even the ones. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.160 That are feel like they're still getting fired as cast members. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:26.880 Wow. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:33.640 But anyways, interesting, interesting, Okay, interesting information, big claims here, 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:38.600 But are you intrigued at all by Odyssey fever that 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.240 everybody is experiencing. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:40.960 I want to, of. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.840 Course, of course I'm busy, so I'm not going to 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.200 be able to go until mid August, I think. But 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.399 I think that'll be good. It'll die down. I'll get 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.760 some tickets. I mean, I have friends going at seven am. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.520 New York screenings were at three am. Jesus, yeah, there 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.079 were three am strings packed, sold out like New York's 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.200 alive obviously, but no, I have the fever. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.640 He I just don't like Christopher Nolan. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.520 He doesn't give women parts like women have a few lines? 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.280 Did you already see it? Casey? He did, so each 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.760 woman has what max seven lines? Well, I think they 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.960 have a little bit. I think he doesn't like like 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.320 he another person who doesn't like women, and we have 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.600 to all celebrate him as he gives Florence Pugh three 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:23.880 lines and up and high. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.520 I'm not interested, but Anne Hathaway is, But I'm going. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.239 Anne Hathway is very good. Wouldn't be surprised if she 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.640 won an Oscar for her role. She's really I love 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:32.960 her to. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.000 Win an Oscar when people are liking her, not knowing 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.160 her earnestness bro. 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:42.280 I think she really ties the film together. But nice, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.000 I loved the Odyssey. I have Odyssey fever too. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.360 And what is her role? 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:51.320 What is Anne Hathaway playing? She's Penelope, Penelope okay, Oysseus 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.760 is trying to get back to Oh got it? And 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.400 Lupita Nyongo is Hara. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:55.960 Who is she? 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:56.840 Helen of Troy? 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:57.680 Hellen of Troy? 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.920 She has two lines? But uh, yes, senday, I heard 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:03.760 some two scenes. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.280 It's just like that. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:05.640 I was. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:05.960 Yeah. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.120 Somebody else I was talking to was like, yeah, Christopher 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.880 Nolan doesn't really know what to do with women. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.920 Yeah, maybe he should take a class, Like, I don't know. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.800 I just I think it is wrong to celebrate filmmakers 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.360 who cannot include women in their stuff. It's like, you're 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.200 obviously not good. Yeah, you're not good enough. You're not 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.679 good enough. Now I'm obsessed with him because fuck cgi 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.760 fuck AI. I like that they're in the mountains. I 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.359 like that they're on the ocean. I like that the 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.440 sets are being built, like it's everything I believe in. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:33.440 And I definitely will go. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.360 Yeah, yeah, I'm going to go to I was supposed 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.080 to go last night, but plans got rearranged. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:39.360 But I'm gonna watch the Curci. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:45.559 I'm gonna read my Circe book before I think. Great, 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.479 I'm on the right, but I have to study my backup. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.200 I mean, we're we're we're double record. Listen, We're gonna 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.400 be in the time machine because I will be in mono. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.160 Lisa has to go to fighting for my life? Okay, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.679 for my life? What's the mourning dollar at the park? 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:01.440 Would you say? What? 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.120 Played a guy at the park lost forty dollars. But 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.040 then I went to the New York Backgammon Club event 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.000 and I played with a guy who spoke Russian. 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:10.720 We got to speak rushing. 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.080 It was awesome and he was a lot better than me, 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.240 and I did beat him, but he also like he 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.320 was giving he was nudging me around, giving me some 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.240 good advice my future. And I played a girl. You know, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.960 I'm in hardcore training mode. Wow, I love it. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.680 Her court training mard. Yeah. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.839 I mean, I'm going there to film something, so it's 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.280 like if I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm gonna be bad. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.200 But like you know, I'm there to interview me, see 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.320 what's up, explore whatever. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.520 But I don't want to fully humiliate myself. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.280 This is like your insomniac, except it's in Monaco at 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.560 a fucking backgammon competition. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:45.200 I love it. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.880 Yeah, it's also tell my One of the producers messaged 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.320 me that she looks up and cocktails are thirty dollars 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.440 at the at the hotel. That yeah, okay, yeah we 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.520 might have to sneak. I might have to start flirting 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.440 with these. You might have to do an old, old 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:03.240 bizarre spring bottle of trick. I mean that's like really expensive. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.120 Yeah, we'll see what happens. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.240 But my coach, he said, if he doesn't have time 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.640 to train because he owns the World Championships, he will 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.159 be sending people my way throughout the days to be 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.279 training and playing with me. Oh okay, so. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.640 I my Russian teacher was like, why is he so 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:20.600 invested in this? 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.720 I go, I don't know, but I think he just 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.799 wants advertisement for his app, Galaxy Backgammon. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:31.480 Okay, but he's really invested. He's like, send me screenshots, 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.520 like ask me questions throughout while you're playing. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.440 I'm like, okay, let's get you. Let's I mean what 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.920 I think. Regardless, you'll be better than you were when 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.480 you got there. When you leave probably learn a lots. Yeah, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:43.960 it's like they're just for laughs. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.480 Like I'm gonna meet every backgammon person around the world 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.840 that's gonna be there. It. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.320 Oh my god, you got new faces for backgammon. You're 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.080 not supposed to talk about it, Lisa, You're gonna get 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:55.520 in trouble. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.840 But like the girl who runs NYC backgammon clubs, she's 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.839 in Greece right now with people's you met last year 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.400 and like her instat stories are incredible. She like met 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:08.240 someone he has a margaritea vilf themed home, but his 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.960 wife has all these trophies. They're on a boat playing, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.200 they have an elevator in their home. There's backgam and 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.280 like these are people that are playing every day, all 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.160 day for years. So it's like it's kind of like 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.320 the heated rivalry guys learning how to ice skate. It's 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.000 like I just can't. I can't catch up in a 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.640 real way. But there is a game of luck. Like 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.240 I hope I don't get knocked out immediately, but if I. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:30.800 Do, I'll get drunk. I don't know. I don't know. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:35.160 I don't know. Guys, Yeah, who's to say, who's to say? 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:39.320 But I'm really excited. I think it's gonna be wonderful. Oh. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.280 Also, someone DM me. They're like, hey, can I open 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:42.960 for you in Dallas? Like, I'm not going to Dallas. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.000 They sent me the link. They're like, you're here in September. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.920 I go, thank you very much. Good to know, good 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.560 to know. My agent goes, this was confirmed in May. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:57.200 So you guys, I I'm in La Joya, I'm in Cleveland. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:02.160 I'm in I think some Philly La Joia. Shit's happening. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.960 Shit's happening. A show in sell in Brooklyn, September thirteenth. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.400 So like, please, I've updated the links, so you know, 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.240 you know, yeah, I'm there. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.720 Come see me, Come see me do my job. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:20.040 If you want no pressure, JK, please come, please flapcome. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.760 What's up with their East Coast adventures? What's been on 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.320 the agenda? What are you a police storming? And isn't 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.800 thundering at least here in Connecticut? I don't know. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.680 Maybe it's not passing over you, but not yet, not yet. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.600 I don't I'm on ACU weather now. I was on 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.720 weather channel dot com. I don't know what I was doing. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.320 And now I'm on ACU weather and it's a whole 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.240 new world. Yeah, it's raining and pouring here. I went 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.000 to the Jersey Shore last weekend with some friends Stop 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:52.120 never be It was wonderful. I got to be away 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.640 from my kids, which always a thrill. I mean, just 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.960 after this long period, you know, I've just been with 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.160 them like a lot, So it was just it was nice. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.640 But I'm like, wait, so what was the Jersey Shore like? 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.679 Was it everything you imagined? Or have you been there before? 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.240 I've been there a bunch of times. I've been there 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.000 are a ton of times. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.120 My friend that you that you know, has a place 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.320 down there, and I used to go like multiple times 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.320 this summer and then, you know, obviously when I moved 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.480 to La Big Gap, and then I went last summer 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.520 and now this summer. So it's like back in the rotation, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.600 and the beach is gorgeous, and she has a place 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.320 that's like right on the beach with a pool, so 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.160 you have both options, which I really love. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.640 And you know, but when you go to the beach, 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.560 then do you shower before you jump in the pool? 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:36.000 Yeah? 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.320 There's a rint soft station, you know. Yeah. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.400 Yeah, It's one of the worst moments in Survivor, is 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.960 like they win this cho like you know, there's they're 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.360 living a terrible life on this island. And then they 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.960 want a reward and they had to bring fucking Philip 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.040 because they had to. And it's this gorgeous pool. They 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.720 have fruits. It's like this cool reward. And he won't 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.000 shower and jumps in the pool and makes it all dirty. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.600 All his dirt goes everywhere because they don't shower. I'm 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.679 not like they're dirty. Oh god, And the other two 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.720 people are like, what the fuck you just I think 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.720 about that a lot. So I think about that a lot. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:12.720 But yeah, it's weird. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:13.640 What in your mind. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.920 It was tough because I had to drive back to 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.960 the city during the World Cup final, which was in 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.240 New Jersey, so that was not the best time to 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:21.760 be on the road. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.800 But we honestly were fine. We got around it. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.320 We timed it so we kind of got to New 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.920 Jersey like as the game was starting. So if you're 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.160 pulling into the World Cup at three o'clock, I don't know, 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:30.760 you're not a fan. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.040 What are you doing? Yeah? 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.880 So I was going into the city because I went 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.640 to go see Brian the opening night of Brian Safie's 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.680 one man show which is called Are You Mad at Me? 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.920 Which is playing at the Here Art Center which is 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.720 in Soho until August fifteenth. People, you guys gotta go 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.600 see it. It's so funny. He's so funny. I actually 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.520 saw it in LA but it's changed a lot and 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.600 it's super super funny and I love the theater like him. 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.040 Yeah, it was great. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.319 And I went to the after party and I didn't 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.520 know anyone, but I met people and I. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.400 Met a fellow exactly right head. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.199 I met Michael Foot, who is the host of Brief Recess, 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:13.480 and I hung out with him and his husband and 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:14.480 it was lovely. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:15.160 It was wonderful. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.120 They have like a Yeah, this is a lesson, go 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.719 to things by yourself. People get so worried. I mean, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.760 I'm just like, live alone, not a lonely life. I 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.760 live a solitary life a lot. Yeah, and so it's 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.640 just never been an issue for me. Like I've did 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.600 a full you know, alligator tour alone. But that might 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.360 not be for but it's just an encouraging thing. You'll 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.880 meet a person, you'll find a thing you know, like 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.840 now you now you know Michael Foot and his husband. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.200 Yeah, I truly thought I would like, no more people. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:43.960 And then I was like, oh, I don't that's okay, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.240 and then I talked to them. I met I met 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.280 a girl I'm a huge fan of I've been like 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.240 following her work for a really long time. I met 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.600 Anna Gasteire from SNL. I mean it was, oh my god, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:12:01.000 it was very fun. But then I leave. I leave 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.679 soon for by the time this episode comes out, I'll 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.240 be in Vermont. I'll be in the woods. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.600 No, not really, I mean, my god, you'll be at camp. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.840 Well, I'll be wait, I'm I'm gonna be in the 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.280 town of my camp for like a full month, but 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.440 I'm gonna be saying it like a house until I 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.360 moved to camp, you know what I mean. Okay, So 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.960 it's like I'll be living like a normal Vermont person's 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.480 life for three weeks and then I'll be living a 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.200 camp life. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.440 But you'll be working at the camp the night. No, no, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.440 I'm not, I'm not. You're just gonna be in Vermont. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.360 I'm just gonna be in Vermont for these three weeks 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.880 and then I am working that last week when I like, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.120 what I usually do to me, what will you be 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.240 doing the in Vermont just recording our podcast. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.280 My kids are going to camp, like, uh, Rosie's going 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.240 to go to a camp there, the camp, the day 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.400 camp that's related to my camp, and then Oscar's going 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.240 to go to this other onecause they wouldn't squeeze him in. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.120 And you know, aren't you pissed? You're piss I am, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:51.160 but I get it. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.680 He's he's a year younger, and Oscar's not really the 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.880 kind that you're going that you go, he'll be no 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.480 problem squeeze him in. Famously, I squeezed him into a 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.800 puppet camp last summer. They called me and told me 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.559 that he tried to escape into the parking lot and 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.920 a security guard had to chase him down. So he's 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.520 not always the best at a slide under the door 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.160 kind of situation. Rosie is the kind of person that 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.720 could do that. But anyway, they're gonna go to sepper camps. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:13.400 They'll be fine. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.400 They're at a camp today where it's crazy hair Day. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.360 And I went to Target at like ten o'clock last 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.120 night to find them this toxic like hair here it is, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.000 it's called Punky color, and I sprayed it in their hair. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.120 This morning, Oscar looks completely insane. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:30.800 I can't. I actually need to take a picture of 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:31.640 them when they get home. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.599 So they're at camp with blue hair right now, loving life, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.360 and yeah, I don't. That's kind of I'm kind of like, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:41.640 what an idyllic thing. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:46.240 Yeah, Vermont in August in a home. I'm excited. I 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.160 think it'll be really fun. I'm gonna like walk around 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:53.679 the lake every day. I'm pumped. Well, you mentioned the 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.720 World Cup. Yes, So the day before the World Cup finale, 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:05.480 I went to Now I went to see Meg Salter 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.360 and Omary Oh, oh my gosh, how was it? She 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.400 killed it? She really was awesome. She you know, she 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.640 has bronchitis. Yeah, and I heard all the drama. There 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.240 was a rumor that she canceled her Broadway show and 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.040 was seen at the comedy and I was like, she's 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.880 not going to the comedy. So funny, but also it's 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.600 like she's the lead of a Broadway hitch, Like what 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:26.560 are people talking about? 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.720 But whatever, So I. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.200 Went with some of her good friends and we got 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.360 to go to Russia. We went to Russian Samovar for 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.240 dinner before so I got to order in Russian and 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:37.280 kind of lib a little. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:37.920 Fantasy as well. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.080 But none of us like planned that there would be 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.160 fifteen thousand Argentinians in Times Square waving flags. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:46.520 Wo. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:51.160 So it was like a full parade, people partying, like international, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.320 some Spanish jerseys, but like mostly Argentinian. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.400 And then there was the flash floods. So we're at 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:58.200 Russian Samovar. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.680 Time is clicking all of a sudden, it's an eleven 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.040 minute walk. That's not gonna be an eleven minute walk. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.080 It is bumper to bumper human traffic. But then also 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.520 the kind of rain, so then it's like also raining, 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.600 but then also a car would be twenty eight minutes, right, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.600 So like dinner ran late. We're like rushing through the 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.680 rain and all these people and I'm like, I'm so 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.240 happy to be alive, and everyone's like you're a freak, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.400 and I'm like, I just know. I like to experience things. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.120 But it was kind of stressful. But Meg killed it. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.520 The Abraham Lincoln killed it. I go, that motherfucker's been 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.960 an SVU. Of course he has military justice, the Sherry 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:35.840 apple Bee rape military Okay, but he was so hot. 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.400 I loved his mannerism. So funny Meg, all her little faces, 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:39.920 she kills. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.400 She's just awesome. And she's she's doing it through September, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.040 maybe wait till her bronchitis is done. But you know, 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.200 but I just I loved it. I'm that's so awesome. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.720 I I was, I'm going, I want to go in 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.120 on Thursday this week and see something. And unfortunately I 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.840 missed Mateo in Chicago, but I was thinking about going 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:01.920 to see the Jellico Ball. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.080 Okay, well, yeah, yeah, I want to see that. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:05.560 I heard it. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.280 I don't know it's gonna happen. But oh, but the finals, 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.280 I left my wallet at Samovar. I had to go 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.240 back uptown the next day after my backham and lessons. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.360 It's so funny. The coffee shops like, oh, are you 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.240 working on your Russian? 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.880 I go, it's backgammon today. They're like, what is your life? 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.360 I'm like, I can't talk about it. I'm like I 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.760 can't even explain this. Even my Russian teacher was just like, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.600 do you why are you doing this? I go, I 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.480 just say yes to opportunities. I don't know what to 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.200 tell you if I don't have good answers for anything. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.840 I come from a place of yes and you come 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.280 from a place of no. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.520 No, She's a yes girl too, but she was annoyed. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.080 I didn't do any of my homework. I've been sick, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.560 I lost my voice, I'm on antibiotics, I keep drinking. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.840 I don't want to talk about it. But I went 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:46.520 to Canal. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.920 Bar, which was a Chicago Bears bar that I love, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:55.960 and Argentina. Wow, embarrassing, embarrassing. Didn't kick one goal, Like 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.680 didn't They didn't even get a shot. Yeah, they didn't 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.120 even get a shot. The goalie didn't even have to 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.880 try to stop a ball once. That's so surprising. 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.479 We were watching it in the car a little bit, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.719 not like we like had it on my friend's YouTube 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.840 like TV on her on her phone and she was like, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.800 I think that the announcer just said that they haven't 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.360 shot on goal yet. I was like, come on, it's 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.960 like seventy minutes into the game, what like. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.560 No, and I you know, and it's just like I 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.080 don't know. They were like pulling jerseys, beating the shit 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:28.119 out of people, screaming, fighting, It's like, I don't know, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.800 so embarrassing, you know, friend was. 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.800 Saying too, because my friend that drove me down there 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.040 and back up, this is my friend Bridget that came 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.520 to our Denver shows with us and had to keep 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:42.639 lying down on the sidewalk because she was having what 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.520 is it called like a height altitude sickness. She was 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.560 driving me back and she was a big soccer player, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.320 played for our college and everything, and she's like, I go, 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.640 what is it with this falling down and crying shit 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:55.400 that they've been doing. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.399 I don't think, she goes the women didn't do that. No, women, Well, 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.679 women are more used to pain. Women are not, Like, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.920 it's been really crazy this World Cup. The women do 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:06.479 not do that. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.120 And I was like, yeah, but it does hurt. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.200 Like one guy got the ball kicked in his face, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.000 like it is powerful thing. They have no padding, Like 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.800 I understand it hurts. Women are just stronger, like they 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.200 just are. Tattoo artists say this all the time, doctor, 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.800 Like it is just like matter of fact, women tolerate 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.480 pain because we're forced to because people believe in the Bible. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.800 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.000 You know what I mean, because there's been studies where 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.639 it's like men and women that are married have the 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.639 same issues, and the men are given pain killers and 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.840 women are given timely Yeah, like it just like is 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.520 our reality, sadly, but the women like the US women 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:43.480 are just better at soccer. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:43.800 I don't. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.919 I don't know what else kind of say, I just 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.400 especially in this country. But I had fun watching it 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:51.679 was fun. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.480 I'm gonna miss it, I. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.680 Know because now there's like a little bit of a 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.400 break in, like the exciting sports stuff that been going 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.840 on in New York like continuously for a while now. 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.040 Yeah, but I have made some hockey connects. 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:07.880 I was gonna say, are you going to get into 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:09.440 like the Rangers or like. 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.280 I'm gonna go to the women? For sure? I am. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.439 And then I met someone that likes hockey and he 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.000 goes to the preseason games that are forty bucks and 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.720 it always goes to the home opener of the preseason whatever. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.800 I don't know, so I'm gonna go. And then I 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.480 told one of my agents they have to take me. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.080 I think hockey's really fun. I've always liked watching it, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.720 even in high school we used to go to games 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:31.040 all the time. 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.440 I've never seen it never like watching It's fast, That's 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:34.919 what I like about it. And you know I have 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.360 book report time. Yes, okay, so I did finally finish. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.479 I who have never known men loved it, loved it. 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.840 Learned a lot. I thought it was poignant, well done. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.439 I loved it. Then, since I was sick, I was 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.080 really just and the storms. I got to just sit 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:55.040 and I finished a book called Goodbye Paradise by Serena Bowen. 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.560 You might remember she wrote the other. 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.560 Gay hockey books that yes, yeah, this one is incredible. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.639 It's two guys they escape a polygamist cult and have 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.360 to like hitchhike across the country. They're obviously in love 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.879 and gay, and there's enough they like meet up with 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:16.360 someone else that escaped the cult years ago, and it's awesome. 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.000 And now I'm reading the next book in the series, 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.400 Hello Forever, and it's basketball. 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:21.560 Oh nice, all gays. 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:21.880 Yeah. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.240 After finishing I Who Have Never Known Men, which is 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.920 about forty women trapped in a cage underground, I think 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:28.679 I needed. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.920 Some gay romance. Yeah, yeah, and I'm getting it and 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:31.640 I'm getting it. 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:37.280 And what I loved about Goodbye Paradise is like usually 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.040 with these books, it's will they won't they for two 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.159 hundred pages, or it's like a guy constantly be like, 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:43.639 I don't know if he likes me, and it's like 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:44.360 he likes you. 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.280 And this got going right away. And so I did 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.240 appreciate that there was not like two hundred pages of 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.399 frustrating men making terrible decisions and not reading science. So 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.240 I was it was just like, it was sweet, it 0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:58.720 was cool. 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.600 It was obviously serious because as a cults and there's crimes, 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.280 but also just like horny and awesome and I loved it. 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.480 Love Thank you Serena, butwen for that. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.360 I'm like halfway through Allison Lebey's book, which I'm enjoying, 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:15.800 but I have also been getting back on my freaking TV. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:23.120 I'm halfway through Rhode Island. I'm watching Hi, It's crazy. 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.000 People are like my friends go, oh my god, did 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:26.920 you see how much so and so changed in the reunion? 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:31.040 I go, it's already to reunion. I was so mortified 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.119 in my life. I've never been this behind, and I 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:33.760 can't say. 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:35.120 I have to say. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.360 I think I blame it on my cord cutting, Like 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.399 if I had my DVR in front of me, this 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:40.200 wouldn't have happened. 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.640 But I am catching up and I do there. 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.639 Wait, I forgot huge news after the World's Cup. I 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.280 was at the bar facetimed my eldest nephew and niece 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.480 there at my parents' house. They facetimed with me for 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:56.720 forty one minutes. Whoa yeah, huge a thrill. It was 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.159 huge passing the phone around everybody talking mostly just the 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:04.040 kids in English. We did we kept in English. Wow, yeah, 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:09.760 but yeah, we kept it English. But and then they 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:11.239 talked to like the people I was at the bar 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.000 with and stuff. But it was really a thrill. And 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.840 the bartender kepting like you're still talking to your family. 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.479 And then my like Julia was just like you need 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.360 to relax. This is a huge deal for her. Yeah, 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:25.000 this is unprecedented, like yeah, yeah, sorry, but the cord 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.000 cutting because I was talking to my nephew and I 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.080 think Caleb Aron said this, But it's like Tvo is 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:33.359 when it should have stopped, Like we could record, we 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.439 could fast forward behind, you know, like have something that 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:40.240 we care about, but still it still be run by 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.200 linear television like commercial all of us making more money 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.120 in terms of creative jobs. But then also like the streaming, 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.800 like all of this is a nightmare. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.600 I think TiVo is when it should have started. TiVo 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.000 should have been the pinnacle, and unfortunately we kept going. 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.159 Going, And now that you know the Lettuces, that's in. 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:02.720 Oh my god, the Lettuce. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.520 I know those don't seem connected, but in my brain 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:11.840 they've connected. So well, listen, conglomerate I did. That's what 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.200 I meant. It's all like monopolies. Everyone owns everything. They're 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.199 all evil as fuck. They don't care about us. So 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.439 it's like just a nightmare. Yeah, the Lettuce and the 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.440 TV people are having explosive diarrhea from Lettuce. Yeah, it's 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.280 not it's not great, which doesn't affect me at all. 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.840 Well, I had Taco Bell last night, and the second 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:31.920 I took a bite in, I was like, oh, this 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:32.520 has lettuce. 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:38.680 Oopsie, so fingers crossed nothing so far. It's also sprinkling. 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.359 It's a sprinkling. I'm just hoping. But I'll tell you 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:45.480 there was no line at Taco Bell. There was no line. No, 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.000 they're suffering right now. They're suffering. Yeah, for sure, keep 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.560 Taco Bell in your heart's everyone. No, am I not 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:54.720 watching TV or movies. I just watch podcasts. I only 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.320 I have my three pops on this week's episode, which 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:00.280 by the way, just dropped today. I think of them 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.040 all than the beautiful Tricksy does talk about the second 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.200 Mortal Kombat. They talk about it together at length. I'm 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.480 only halfway through. Oh my god, I see loves it. 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.600 Katya has issues. Katya has some issues, but overall we're 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:18.000 Katya issues with it, like the background actors or something 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.320 like you know Katya like she just has like weird opinions. 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.359 And then there was like a character Yeah, I don't know. 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.600 They were just like I drove all the way back 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:27.520 from taking my kids to camp. 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.080 I was like, I don't even know what they're talking about. 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:30.280 I mean, I love less. That's how I know. 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.240 I love listening to them because I have not seen 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:33.679 a Mortal Kombat movie in my life. 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.600 Are we joining their patreon? I you know, I don't know. 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:38.720 I don't know. 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.080 I'm pissed, but I need I need it. I need it. 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:42.600 I really want to hear the recaps. 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:47.000 But we have a Patreon too. Yes, we have a 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:47.960 Patreon as well. 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:52.200 And last week last week we talked about the very 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.080 disturbing documentary Maternal Instinct. 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Don't go anywhere, all right, 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:42.240 we are doing today, Season twenty one, episode fifteen, Swimming 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.080 with Sharks. This episode came out in February of twenty twenty, 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.400 so like right before the pandemic. I remember watching this one, 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.600 but I sort of really liked watching it again. To me, 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.720 it really felt like an older episode, like it felt 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:57.320 even though it's the season twenty one. To me, it 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:58.720 feels like a season like ten. 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.920 Yeah, I would say it twist in turns, Yeah, it 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.560 in turns interesting, fun something we've never seen before too, Like, yeah, 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.120 I don't feel like there's many episodes like this. Yes, yes, 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:13.199 it's a unique fun episode. Yeah, they killed it so 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:18.760 that's funny. Yeah, there is there. There's definitely funny humor. 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.560 I also love when they're like, you know, at the 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.320 video game convention, Like I like when they're out on 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:23.119 the town as. 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:23.560 A group too. 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.240 Right, So this episode starts out like generic pop song 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.920 playing like people aren't buying stuff, like things are changing hands. 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:33.600 You're not sure what it is. It kind of looks 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.200 like it's a costume jewelry farmers market like, but the 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.000 lyrics of the song are like fashion HIGHLIGHTE fame. 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.240 I did google it. It's called Again and Again. 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.520 It's from some random pop album that is probably used 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.879 by television shows. But we cut to Cat and Rowlands 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.359 checking out some merchandise. Cat is holding up this. 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.640 Like tear drop crystal basically on a string and goes, 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.600 this is pretty, and then Roland's like, well that's a 0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.479 vaginal egg, like I don't know what to tell you, 0:26:58.600 --> 0:26:59.720 and I don't know what she thought it was, like 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:01.960 a I don't know what she thought it was, and 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.800 Cat's like, ooh, never mind, and then she was I 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.679 guess the message is positive empowering women through wellness, and 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.800 Rowlins is like, yeah, I'm not buying it, Like the 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.840 message I'm getting is spend all your damn money. 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:17.080 So I didn't know Rollins was such an anti capitalist, 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:17.919 I know. 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.560 Like I think she just it's basically this feels like, 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:22.960 oh too girly. 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.640 You know, maybe if there was sports balls here right 0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.399 like that, if there was like beer and Papa shot, 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.359 she'd be like this rocks, I do love Papa Shot. 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:32.280 You shouldn't have said that. 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:32.560 I know. 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.399 Sorry, you're going straight to a David Busters after this. 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.360 Well, you know, I did finally find a barcade with 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.480 a Qubert. 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.280 So yeah, ooh that's fun. 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:43.960 Yeah, because the one by my house doesn't have one, 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.159 but yeah, I walked by. I saw Cubert on twenty 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.919 fourth and I will be going there. So anyway, I 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:51.840 can't really tell what this is. This feels like it's 0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.280 some kind of like wellness conference that had like or 0:27:55.359 --> 0:28:00.000 like convention that has like a purchasing aspect or whatever. 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:01.200 And now we see this. 0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.280 Woman who is clearly the head of this whole company, 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.280 giving like a press conference, and she goes and she's 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:09.600 going why sex, Why not sex? And the company is 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.800 called We Be Well, which is funny to me, and 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.639 the logo is a bee like and not not like 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.800 the letter be and she is yapping about being well. 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.959 She like her mantra is be well, be hot, be happy, 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.639 and someone yells out, Luna, we love you, and you 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.359 know she is Luna, and obviously this is like a 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:31.640 Gwyneth Paltrow situation. 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:33.600 So women needs. 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.680 She goes women need to know it's okay to love 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.200 our bodies, especially the parts they tell us and not 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.920 to talk about. And she seems like she's like just 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.200 on like a smidgeon of cocaine, you know what I mean, 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.800 Like she doesn't seem absolutely coked out, but like she's 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:47.320 on enough. 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:48.840 And the crowd goes. 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.760 Wild and she goes see you on stage like she's 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:56.360 loving life. Backstage, an assistant is offering Benson herbal or 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.880 detox tea and she's like, bitch, I drink red wine 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.400 or coffee and the assistant. The assistant is like, Luna 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.120 is so sorry she couldn't welcome you in person. 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:05.840 She can't wait to meet you. I don't understand what's 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:06.080 going on. 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.040 At the beginning, I'm like, why is Benson at this 0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.520 weird wellness conference? 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.600 And then in walks Luna. She's girl bossing hard. 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.400 She's got like an entourage of people with her and 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.600 she's like, oh, Detective Benson, can I call you or 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.920 Lieutenant Benson, can I call you Olivia? And then she goes, 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.680 I am the SHEEO of we be well, Luna Prasada. 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:30.920 The sheeo is that's tough stuff. What, No, it's bad. 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.840 I mean I wrote in my notes. I wrote in 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:33.160 my notes. 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:34.960 I'm not saying I want something bad to happen to her, 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:35.800 but I'm not loving her. 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:40.560 Like well, the thing is, it's like CEO isn't masculine. 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.720 Yeah, it's just letters. 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.760 So sheeo is just a little bit funny because CEO works. 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:48.920 Yes, yeah, yeah, yah yah. 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.680 So like we did a thing on Drag Race which 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.600 was she MZ because it was TMZ about drag queens, 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.160 so you don't have to like she things up unless 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:58.400 you're going all the way drag. 0:29:59.000 --> 0:29:59.360 Yeah. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.840 And then she forces Benson into a hug, which Benson 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.160 is like okay, and then she starts, you know, blowing 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.120 some china up Benson's trench coat, like I'm so impressed 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.000 by you, and I guess Olivia is there to speak 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.320 at like wellness. 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:13.920 Con I don't know. 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.560 And then Melanie the CEO introduces herself and she is 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.080 played by Samantha Mathis, friend of the pod we had 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.640 her on I believe episode sixty eight. I wrote it 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.040 down later in my notes, but the episode Control, she 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.280 is a woman who is kidnapped and forced to marry 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.120 a man and then cuts his balls off, cuts his 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.800 dick off, and leaves it in a I fuck it. 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.680 Oh no, leaves him in the subway. The guy takes 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.040 him in the subway, right, Yeah, that's Control. So anyway, 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.720 Samantha one of my favorite episodes. I would say, yeah, 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.880 And Marishka's father, isn't it. Yes, he's the guy on 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.000 the escalator that sees the man bleeding from his chopped 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:50.600 off balls. 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:51.520 Yes, yes. 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.440 And and Samantha Mathis is in like all these nineties 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:55.200 movies and like, I. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.120 Love her, But I can earn Geneva Carr for some 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.040 reason mixed up and it makes no sense. 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.960 But well I could see that because Geneva wears like 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.560 a dark glasses blonde with like a like a thick 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.280 glasses and that's kind of the vibe Melanie is having 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.760 in this episode. But she tries to introduce herself to 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.040 Benson and Luna just. 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.960 Me, isn't she Also in the Woody Allen episode we 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:19.320 did with Bradley Woodford. 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.440 Yes, totally. Wow, they really love samantham out this. 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:29.960 I don't understand. I'm on, do not disturb? Why would 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.440 my laptop ring? And what are these loan officers calling 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.640 me about four, five, six times a day? I don't 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.880 have any loans. My parents paid for college. 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.600 Like what do you want? What? I did? Everything right? 0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:47.440 Oh my god, I'm sorry. 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:48.960 I don't know what you do. I do not just 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.080 there's like no way to lock it down. I don't 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.480 know I'm blocking. I'm blocking every area code everything. It's like, 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:58.080 get out of my life, all right, continue coming anyway. 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.880 Melanie is trying to introduce herself to Benson, and Luna 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:02.640 kind of whisks Benson away and like doesn't give a 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.440 fuck about Melanie, Like you get a little vibe there 0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:06.120 that She's like, we don't have we don't have time 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.720 for you. And Luna says to Olivia, you must be 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.160 so busy, since me too, and she's kind of acting 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.240 like me too as like a product that Olivia launch, 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.320 Like god, ever since you guys put out me too? 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:20.040 Are you like dying? And Olivia goes, well, we are, 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.200 but yet anything I can do to raise awareness and 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.240 Luna's like us girls, we run the world and in 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.640 our spare time we try to fix it too, Like 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.040 she's a lot okay. Cut to Luna and Benson on 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.760 the stage at this be Well thing and Benson is 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.240 sitting and Luna is standing, which is immediately like a 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.479 weird is it in conversation or is it? 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:42.120 Like what is it? And then she's like giving Tom 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:43.200 cruise on the couch. 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.720 Yeah, she's manic, and she's like, yeah, that's oh. When 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.200 we're attacked, our brains don't process information in a linear way. 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.680 We revert to our lizard brain. And Olivia keeps trying 0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.040 to talk about Luna keeps cutting her off, and Olivia 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.560 is explaining how people process trauma, and she says survival 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.520 takes strength, and Luna like repeats it slowly and goes. 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.160 Survival takes strength. Do you mind if I steal that? 0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.400 And it's like all this she starts like for like 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.520 laughing so hard, there's all this applause. I'm like I 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.520 can and I can't believe people are going for this, 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.200 and like she is giving Gwyneth Paltrow, but like much 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.000 more sweaty and pilled out, like it's more like Gwyneth 0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.080 Paltrow meets SU's ormond a little bit like it's just 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:23.880 a little bit more. 0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.360 It's like a parody, yes. 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:30.080 Because Gwyneth Paltrow is obviously very like, buy my seven 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.480 hundred dollars vaginal smelling candle or don't. I don't care, 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.920 Like I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, I'm very rich, you know. Like, 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.120 but this woman is like, we can do this, ladies, 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.320 and she's really wild. So now we cut to Luna's 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.280 hotel suite. The assistant is bringing some guy back and 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.320 telling her, telling him, you've got twenty minutes before her 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:48.920 car comes. 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.200 Luna's in a silky robe. She's looking kind of drunk. 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.400 I at first I think she's on a phone call, 0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.920 but then she sees Bobby, this guy, and I don't 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.680 know if she ends the call, but she completely moves 0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:00.800 on to him, and she seems like she's been waiting 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.680 on him, and she's like, I have a question for you. 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:04.240 Then she takes off her robe. 0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.040 She's wearing like a lingerie like silky slip type thing, 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.800 and her question is saffron or chive, and she's holding 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.479 up two outfits in those colors, and Bobby is like, bitch, 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:15.400 let's talk Turkey. 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.280 This IPO is not business. 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.279 As usual, so the company's about to go public, as 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.720 we can tell. She's like, we just had an amazing 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:22.320 three days. 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.080 Enjoy the moment. We have edibles, we have drinkables. Let's 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:25.759 live a little bit. 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:27.840 And he's like, well, I've been going through the books 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:32.360 and she says like, you know, you do numbers, I 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.120 do brilliant ideas, and he's like cool, but you're the CEO, 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.080 so you'll be signing these statements and I want to know. 0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.080 I want you to know what's in them. And she's like, okay, 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.839 how about a drink first and then your little power point. 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.600 So back to the downstairs part of the event, Benson, 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.719 Cat and Rollins are walking out into the street and 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.759 Kat's like complimenting Benson, being like, the audience really loved you. 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.200 They appreciated you, and Rollins is like, well, yeah, that 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.520 bitch was interrupting you every five minutes and like shirt 0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.799 seconds and she can't believe Kat actually spent money in there, 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.600 and just then she's like, what is my sister's birthday? 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.160 And then Olivia gets an urgent text from Luna's assistant 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.080 and Rollins goes just say no, I mean Rollin's. It's 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.399 like it's season twenty one. You don't like like when 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.200 women are calling for help, you don't know. Benson's not 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:14.720 going to be like, no thanks, I'm busy. 0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.200 She calls Lucy and she goes, so we cut to 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:19.160 her at Luna's. 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.080 Her assistant is in tears. Luna's on the couch kind 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.600 of withdrawn, and she tells her I was raped. 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.960 Why would he do this to me? Credits Okay. 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.960 At the hospital, Luna's almost done with her exam. They're 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.720 just waiting on antibiotics, and Benson's going over the events 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.759 of the evening with Luna, like, okay, so Bobby came 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.080 up to your room and she's like, yes, he's the CFO. 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.719 I always put him off because he's always got bad news. 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:43.920 I call him bummed me out, Bobby, And she said 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.880 I offered him a drink to relax him, but I 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:48.520 was a little bit ahead of him on that front. 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.719 And lives like that's okay, Like it's all right if 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.480 you were a little bit drunk. She's like, we never 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.760 got into the financials. He took a shot of tequila. 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.600 He pushed me down on the bed. I wanted to 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.880 push him off by Froze and it was just like 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.680 you said, I just wanted to serve and their relationship lately, 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.640 I guess has grown tense in advance of announcing the IPO, 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:07.840 and then she remembers the IPO and she's like, oh 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.080 my god, I can't do this. If this comes out, 0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.080 this whole thing is going to be fucked. I can't 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.560 believe he did this to me. You can do your investigation, 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.879 but I'm not pressing charges and lives Like, okay, well 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:18.360 if you change your mind, like we did get the 0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.480 rape kit done, and Luna is like, I don't know 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.600 if you understand, but like this whole brand is dependent 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.319 on women wanting to be me, and like rape doesn't 0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.920 fit into that picture. So at the Precinct, Live is 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.280 filling in Careesi that this guy's name is Bobby Frost, 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.600 Stanford frat boy a decade in Silicon Valley before he 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.719 became the CFO of We Be Well. He's got a 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:45.720 DUI and a divorce with mutual DV allegations, which pensant 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.560 Rollins goes nothing worse than a typical congressman, which is 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:54.800 a sad commentary on United States politics. The security camera 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.080 has him entering her suite and exiting thirty four minutes later. 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.920 Her talk screen shows high love of alcohol, marijuana, and adderall. 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.400 So that's probably where the coked out thing I got. 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.920 Trauma and seamen were found not inconsistent with assault, but 0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.440 Cariesy's like, also not inconsistent with rough sex if he 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.080 gets a good lawyer. Her assistant, Sequoia, was an outcry witness. 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.080 Let's talk to her, and let's talk to Bobby. So 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.560 now we're at the office of Bobby Frost, which I'm 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.680 realizing is Robert Frost, and two roads diverged in a 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.480 wood and this man took the road with the fleece 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.359 vest and he is wearing one of those and it's 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.759 the wrong road. He is very Silicon Valley douche bro. 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.759 He's talking to Rollins and Benson and being like, yeah, 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.080 I mean it's always hard to say no to Luna. 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.240 And they're like, so you had sex, and he's like, yeah, 0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:43.120 totally consensual. 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.360 Why what is she saying? And he goes. 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:49.439 Right after we finished, Sequoia walked in and she freaked out, 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:53.120 and then he spills the tea. Sequoia and Luna are involved, 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:57.040 and Luna can't admit that she was cheating on Sequoia 0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.520 when she walked in on them, and so she's making 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:00.440 this whole thing up to. 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.520 Cover it up to her girlfriend. The names are really hard. 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.880 Yeah, yeah, Sequoia, Luna, these are very people working at 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.960 a wellness company. And he goes full confession, Luna and 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:12.000 I used to be involved. 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.800 I broke it off. The sex was against our HR policy, 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.320 he says. Smash cut to a few months later, Luna 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.279 is a proud pan sexual with a hot new twenty 0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.200 five year old assistant. He bumps her up to CLO, 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:31.120 which is chief listening officer, and that's this scene ends 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.680 on that note of ridiculousness. And by the way, this 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.759 guy playing Bobby is named Stark Sands. He is a 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.480 Broadway guy. He was Tony nominated for Kinky Boots, and 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:40.920 he's a producer O Lost Boys. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.360 He's a coched h Yeah. 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.600 I don't know if he's in anything currently, but he's 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.239 been in a ton of Broadway stuff. Now Kat is 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:52.400 getting Sequoya's story. She goes, I walked in. He was 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:53.080 on top of her. 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.160 Luna saw me, screamed for help, and then he ran out, 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.040 and Luna said that he assaulted her. 0:38:58.520 --> 0:38:59.600 And then they're like, well. 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.640 Bobby told that you guys are lovers, and she goes, yeah, 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.400 did he also tell you that it makes him furious. 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.759 He claims that it's an hr issue, but it's really 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:08.919 his toxic ego. He hates that I make her happy 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.080 when he couldn't. This is a mess, Like this whole 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.359 thing is feeling very messy right now. So now at 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:18.279 Luna's massive loft, like the biggest loft I've ever seen 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:18.840 on the show. 0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:20.120 Everything's white. 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.759 It's like there's some color in like glass chandeliers and 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.040 stuff like that. She says she didn't mention Sequoya because 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:28.000 she wanted to protect her. 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.839 She can't believe Bobby's lying about this, and Live goes, well, 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.359 that's what rapists do, girl, Like come on, and like 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.600 she's like, well, he knows I won't fuck up. I 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:40.759 think Norm MacDonald when he did Comedians in Cars, he 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.359 has this funny thing where he goes, you know, you'll 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.319 talk to people about Bill Cosby and they say, you know, 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.239 the hypocrisy is the worst part, but I think it's 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:50.640 the rape. 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.919 It's just so good, so good, so good. 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:03.279 Okay, So but she's like, he knows I won't fuck 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.760 up the IPO, and Benson's like, listen, there's no stigma 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.319 in coming forward. It could be Yeah, it could be empowering, 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:11.960 even heroic. And then she looks at Benson and she 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:15.640 goes survival takes strength and like. 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.640 A very strange yeah what I mean, like that you 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:20.880 have this SVW detective. 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.360 We learn all this and now you've been attacked. 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:28.279 It's exactly exactly like the It's almost like setting up 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:28.800 a scene. 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.719 They're setting something up. Yeah, this this all could have 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:32.400 just happened. 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.520 And then they call SVU instead of like her meeting 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.960 this woman the night that she gets raped, you know 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.440 what I mean. That's where it's like tough, but also 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:45.160 like the episode has very like a very good plot. 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:46.719 I'm not gonna give it away right now, but like 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.600 it starts now with me being like is she lying? 0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.720 Like I can't tell if she's lying or not because 0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.320 she's this actor, like her person she has such a persona, 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.560 you know. So anyway, the cops walk into Frankie and 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.439 Johnny's steakhouse, not a real place. Benson and Rowlins walk 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.800 in and call Bobby's name and he goes in the 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:07.440 middle of a meal here, and it's like, can you 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.480 just imagine being able to act like detectives walking into 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.560 a restaurant and calling you by name that you could 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.120 just go, I'm eating. 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:15.120 Can you not like? 0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.400 I just I feel like, even if I knew I 0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.000 did nothing wrong, if they walked in and they were 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.360 like Kara clank, my stomach would sink into my buttthole 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:22.399 and I would be like, I'm dead. 0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:23.240 I'm going to jail. 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.279 Like these men just are like I'm eating, Like our 0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.360 oysters aren't here yet, What the fuck is wrong with you? 0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.480 But Bobby is sitting there with Melanie the COO and 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.120 this other guy and we haven't met him yet, but 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.600 we will. And I don't know if they're arresting him, 0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:40.160 but they say they just want to talk. Bobby spills 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.719 more tea than even he'd like that he didn't even 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.560 tell them before, and he's like, I didn't tell you before, 0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.720 but guess what she's robbing the company blind. I confronted 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.560 her about it and that's why she's crying rape. And 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.719 Benson's like, get your ass out of the steakhouse, and 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.480 she still takes him off. So walking into cement room 0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.759 bars with Bobby and his lawyer Bobby goes, by the way, 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:01.440 she's not Luna Prosada from Dairy, She's Lri was new 0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.560 Ski from Hackensack, and I grew up next door to 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.080 that town and it is pronounced dari Anne. But also 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.960 Hackensack gets a bad rap. I think it's just like 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.160 it sounds gross, it sounds terrible, like it's a perfect 0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:19.000 punchline town. But like, remember his name was Carl Parsley 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.719 when I met him, was doing something in Hackensack, you know, 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:24.480 like everything is like, do you want to go back 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.440 to selling piano key neckties in Hackensack? Like everything is 0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.799 bad about Hackensack. No offense if you're from Hackensack. And 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.319 Rollins points out, well, okay, like it's not a crime 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.000 to change your name, and he goes, no, that's fair enough. 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:37.280 But it's her whole persona. 0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.120 It's a tell she like created her whole persona as 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.239 a sales tool, and it worked until the IPO where 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.680 we started finding some shit out. At first, it was 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.799 just like expenses were exorbitant, spat trips for research. But 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.760 then I dug deeper and she's embezzling on a massive scale, 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.400 and they're like okay, but you didn't report that to 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.560 the DA or the sec or mention it when we 0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.759 talked to you earlier. And lawyer argues, his only crime 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.759 is putting the concern for his company over himself. And 0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.080 if this gets out, the IPO is fucked. Thousands of 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.680 jobs will be gone, and she's forcing my hand. So 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:11.680 they're like, okay, So what happened that night? He goes, 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:13.839 I showed her my spreadsheets. I told her she could 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.279 reimburse the company and we could paper it over. She 0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.800 responded by seducing me, taking off my clothes and getting 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.600 down on her knees. Then she pulled me into He goes, 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:26.120 like that contraption she calls a bed, and then it 0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.200 was her a hotel room. So I don't know that 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.920 she like designed the bed, but and he goes, we 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.920 were going at it when Sequoya walked in, and then 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:40.080 Luna pushed me off and cries rape, and Carisi goes, 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.880 so you're the victim here, and he goes, thank you, 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.680 me and the company too. And so back at Luna's apartment, 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.080 she is in this thick Fisherman sweater, okay, and she 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.680 is not happy that he is making this shit up. Like, 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.560 She's like, this is pathological. Maybe it's neurological. Maybe his 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.480 frontal low of the shot, which I think is like 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.279 a reference to but Benson was saying about how we 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.520 processed trauma in our frontal lobes or whatever. Benson calmly 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.239 tells her, well, Bobby says he has evidence, and she goes, well, 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.040 he can't have evidence. We be well, is my child, 0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.800 it's my life. I don't know where I end and 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.880 where it begins. And Benson goes, okay, but we do 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.719 have to check out what he's saying. And she goes okay, good, 0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:19.120 and then you'll see I didn't do this, and in 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.520 the meantime you'll arrest him. And Benson's like, actually, babe, 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.040 the DA says we got to hold off, and Luna's like. 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.799 This is psychotic. I gotta go fire him. 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.319 And Benson's like, you can't have any contact with him, 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:33.040 you can't strengthen his hand. So Luna's not feeling good 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.759 right now about this RELEASEY now is talking to the 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:40.879 chief tech officer. His name is Venet, and they're talking 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:45.000 to him about expenses. He looks very confused and he's like, 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.200 what I sign a lot of big expenditures like and 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.240 Rollin's like, how about this one for eight hundred thousand 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.920 dollars that actually was paid to a vendor that doesn't exist. 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:55.879 It's a shell company and when we go after the money, 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.759 it disappears into a Caribbean LLC. And the guy's like, 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.600 I'm not laundering money, and he goes, it was Luna 0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:05.080 who submitted the bill, and they're like, you didn't ask 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.879 what it was for six figure checks, no questions, and 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.080 they're like, he goes, she made it clear it was 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.400 not my concern, and he goes, she's starting a charitable foundation. 0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:16.399 She mentioned moving money around for tax purposes. She said 0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.360 it was all on the up and up, and she's 0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.319 the boss, and he goes the tech officer before me, 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:22.680 she fired him because she didn't like the color of 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.440 his aura. So he's just signing checks and watching his ass. 0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:30.160 So now they're chatting with Melanie and she is in 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.600 the lab in front of a wall of beautiful bottles 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.919 of potions and such. We did ask Samantha Mathis about 0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.600 the beautiful potion wall when we interviewed. 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:38.319 Her episode sixty eight. 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.320 As I said earlier, I did have the number correct, 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.480 and she's like, wow, so Venay said, Luna's diverting funds. Well, 0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.080 you can't say no to Luna, and Rollins is like, well, 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.120 you're the CEO, you're the COO. Isn't it your job 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.600 to keep her in line? And she goes, she's the 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.320 majority shareholder. The board is made up of her rich girlfriends. 0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.080 It's her world. And then they ask about all these 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.279 checks deposit to Tisa Chi. There's eleven checks for nine 0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.719 thousand dollars each, and Melanie tells them that Tisa worked 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.560 in creative and Luna told me they were consulting fees. 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.000 So Kat and Rollins go talk to Tisa cheap and 0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:13.879 she goes, well, I left weebe well a few months ago. 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:15.680 And they're like, but you're still consulting, right, and she 0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:19.200 goes no, I mean yes, And they're like, which is it, bitch. 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.080 We've got eleven checks for nine k to you, all 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.040 just below what's reportable to the IRS. 0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.200 That's called structuring. 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:32.040 Again, Rollins knows a lot about financial crimes and Tisa goes, well, 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.200 I signed an NDA. I can't talk about Luna or 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.480 the company. And Rollins is like, you're looking at serious 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.360 charges that NDIA is not going to save you, Like 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.879 NDAs cannot prevent you, I think, from talking about stuff 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.040 that's illegal, Like we've talked about that on this podcast, 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.200 Like you aren't allowed to talk about things that you've 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.160 seen or done it like a job, but you can't. 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.360 It doesn't prevent you from like telling the police that 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:55.440 you that something illegal happened. So anyway, what were those 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.640 payments for? And she goes, oh, they were to keep 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.399 me quiet. And she said about what and they were 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.040 like about Luna sexually assaulting me? 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:03.520 Done? Done. 0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:08.720 So now Tisa is in woodroom lines telling her story. 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:10.880 She's like, we were at a retreat in Lake George, 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.799 which is gorgeous by the way I've been. They don't 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.520 usually invite her level, but Luna asked for her specifically. 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:20.360 The second night, Luna invited her to her private cabin. 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.080 I thought it was a group thing, but it was 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:25.360 just her. She offered me tequila and then she wanted 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:29.319 me to try out this new product, Vibrildo, which is 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:33.319 a vibrator dildo, and she wanted me to use it 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.200 on myself in front of her. It's just a bad name, 0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.480 that's all. I have nothing against a vibrating dildo. It's 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.440 just that's a bad name, a vibrildo. She wanted to 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.600 use me to use it on myself in front of her, 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.839 and Tisa goes no, and then Luna was like, okay, 0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.920 let's try out the bondage tape and then she fully 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.480 tied her up and then forced her like now that 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:53.440 she's tied up and restrained, she used the device on 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.160 her and put it inside of her, and Benson is 0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.480 on the other side of the fishbowl glass and she 0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.160 does not look pleased. So top of AAC three and 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:03.440 Luna is in cement room bars with her defense attorney, 0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:07.000 Dara mcglauney aka friend of the pod Malsa Macar we 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:11.680 love her. And they're subtly asking Luna about Tisa and 0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.160 the company retreat and her lawyer is like, cut to 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.359 the chase, you said new allegations. Benson tells them straight 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.719 up what Tisa's had happened, and Luna is incredulous. They 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.520 show her, like the apology email that she wrote Tisa, 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.399 and she goes, that sounds like me, but I never 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.720 wrote that, and they're like, what about the eleven payments 0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.960 the nda. She goes, I've never seen any of this, 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.000 Benson tells her, well, that's not what Melanie the COO says, 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:35.560 and the lawyer's like, we need time to go over 0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:38.680 these documents, and Benson's like, yeah, you do. And so 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:40.480 now we're in the office of Vanessa Hadid, who I 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.120 would say is one of my bottom five recording characters, 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.960 Like I hate Khadid, like I hate her. She's the 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.160 fucking worst, even though she's not even that bad in 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.080 this episode, I hate her. Hadid and Careesi are talking 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:54.600 to the tech dude Vena, and he's like, Luna's not 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.239 the easiest person to work for, but I believe in 0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.319 the company, like I won't damage the IPO. And they 0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:02.520 tell him, well, you're going down for fraud and money 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:04.560 laundering and he's like, I was just doing my job. 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.200 But Creasey points out traditionally that's not a great excuse 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.640 for breaking the laws her, like, that's not going to 0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.520 work out, Like just following orders, that's not really worked 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:15.480 out for a lot of people. Hadid's like, cough up 0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:19.040 Luna's criminal acts. Now we cut to Melanie being like 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.560 an offshore LLC. Well, I'd have to dig a little bit, 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.080 but I'm sure it's for tax reasons. I can tell 0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.040 she's up to something because she's acting a little bit 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:30.200 too what. I'm the CEO, but I don't know what's 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.960 going on. And Hidid's like, bitch, I was in white 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.760 collar crimes, like this is Red Flag City and Creasey's like, yeah, 0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:40.240 offshore LLC's usually mean embezzlement, drug running, or money laundering, 0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.759 which kink is yours, and she's like, none of them. 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.480 I tried to tell Luna it would look bad, but 0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.359 she stopped listening to me, and she's like, we've been 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.000 friends for a long time. You know, while her star rows, 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.480 her celebrity friends. She let it all go to her 0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:55.880 head and she goes like my mother used to say, 0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.719 you climb too fast and you wind up gasping for air. 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:02.040 It feels like something you would embroider on a throw pillow. 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.719 I guess, yeah, but it's like terrible advice, Like yeah, 0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:06.279 why would a mom say that to her kid? 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:06.839 What does it mean? 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.120 Like, don't be too successful, You're gonna be a dumb bitch, 0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:10.640 Like yeah, if you rise. 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.319 To fame too quickly, you'll suffocate and die. Like yeah, 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.680 I don't really know what it means. I mean yeah, yeah, 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:20.000 I don't. I'm not into it. But at Luna's apartment, 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.719 she's in a cozy heather gray cashmere lounge set and 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.080 she's they're telling her that they have to arrest her 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.759 for embezzlement, money laundering, and sexual assault. And she's like, 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.160 but I didn't do any of those things. You need 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.120 to help me, And Benson's like, call your lawyer and 0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:34.600 have her meet you at Central Booking, and outside of 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.880 Booking there is a massive crowd of reporters, Like everybody's 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:41.400 screaming questions at her flashbulbs. People are screaming calling her 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:45.200 a rapist. She's putting on sunglasses. In court now, she 0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:48.359 pleads not guilty. Careesi asks for amand due to her 0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.200 access to resources and a private jet, and her lawyer 0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.840 argues that, I mean, she is a potential rape victim. 0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.600 I just don't think asking for remand is like a 0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.480 good idea. But her lawyer argues, she won't flee, like 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:01.880 you could give her an inkle monitor, do you know 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.799 what I mean? Her lawyer argues, she won't flee, she 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.040 wants to stay and fight these ridiculous charges, and the 0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.759 judge goes, well, we take sexual assault very seriously, and 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.520 bail is denied and Luna's like, you can't do this 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:15.040 to me. There's been a horrible mistake. And when the 0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.319 uniformed officers try to take her away, she's like, don't 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.160 touch me. She's like actually freaking out and like you 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.719 can see feel like a meltdown building in her. 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.560 So now it's ladies night inside the precinct. 0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:27.759 Rollins, Benson and to me and are talking about how 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.960 the media love tearing Luna to shreds. They're like, they're 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:32.600 not even giving her the grace they would give a 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:34.520 male serial predator right now. 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:36.640 And Rollins is like, yeah, you know. 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:40.839 And Rollins, who's not into Luna's entire thing, like her 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.160 entire wellness bullshit, is like, I still don't get why 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:46.319 you would make up a rape allegation when you had 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:47.880 all this to hide. It's kind of like when we 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:51.600 say why are you going on The Real Housewives when 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.680 you're committing elder abuse and fraud? Like you know what 0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:58.120 I mean, Like you have these illegal things you've been 0:51:58.120 --> 0:51:59.680 doing and you're putting yourself in the spotlight. 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:00.920 It does don't really make sense. 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:03.759 And Benson's like, well, I'm not so sure that part 0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:06.120 was made up, and Benson's like, none of this makes 0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:09.560 sense to me. Meanwhile, on the TV, Bobby, Melanie, and 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.719 Bennet are like seated in a row at a press 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.520 briefing announcing that Luna is out as the CEO and 0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.400 Melanie is taking her place, and Bobby is taking the 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:20.759 time to say, even though Luna made these false allegations 0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:22.880 against me, I'm going to fight for we be well, 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.000 and it's going to be smooth sailing from now on, 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.360 just so everybody knows. Benson gets a call that Luna 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:33.040 wants to talk. Now they're at at the jail, the prison. 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.640 I don't really know the difference. I don't know the 0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:38.480 difference here, and Luna's in an orange jumpsuit and is 0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.840 describing how she was assaulted by the inmates at the prison, 0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.560 how they held her. Now, yeah, they held her down 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.560 and said now you can feel like what getting raped 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:50.480 by a woman feels like. And she looks like terrified, 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.200 and she goes but maybe they were right, like maybe 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.560 I'm guilty. There's no other explanation, and they're like, so 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.640 you're changing your plea and the lawyer goes against my advice, 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:01.719 and she like, I just can't go through a trial. 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:02.640 I want this to be over. 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:04.919 And so they're like, are you saying that you did 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.320 embezzle from we be Well and that you assaulted Tisa? 0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:10.879 And she goes, I'm saying, I can't remember. Like at first, 0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:12.680 I thought they're setting me up, but then I read 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:15.279 your emails and your documents and it sounds like me, 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:16.319 and it's got to be me. 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.000 Increase. He's like, okay, you, but. 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.160 If you're gonna change your plead it guilty, you gotta 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:24.320 admit guilt. And she goes, so I have to swear 0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.799 to crimes that I don't remember and have no awareness of. 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.759 And she's having a full break down. She goes, have 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.040 I lost my mind? I've got to be crazy. That's 0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:33.839 the only thing that makes any sense. And then she 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.920 starts cackling. She lets out this weird scream. Everyone at 0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:40.160 the table looks disturbed. She says, as a woman, I 0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:41.840 always thought I gotta be strong. I can get on 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:43.960 top of things. I can take control. I've always been 0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:46.640 about empowering women. We can overcome we're women, we're women. 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:48.720 I can't overcome this. I feel like I've been betrayed 0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:50.359 by my mind. I think I'm going insane, and then 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.000 she slams on the table. Benson's like, Okay, we got 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.560 to get this bitch to a doctor. Luna's maniacally laughing 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.759 sobbing alternately alternately. As they lead her out of the room, 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.360 Cariesie wonders if she's going for a site defense and 0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:04.440 Benson goes, no, I think she's trying to figure out 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:06.879 what the fuck is going on here. She spent her 0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:10.000 entire career empowering women and now she falls apart like 0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:13.120 either she has got a split personality, which Carisi goes 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.120 not likely, or her employees are framing her and she's 0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:20.839 going nuts because she's being gaslighted. So this is very 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.840 interesting to me because this episode really does explain what 0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:28.279 gaslating is. Benson walks into her office and tells Kat 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.279 that Luna's still under observation in the psyche word. Kat 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:34.560 may have found something to this conspiracy theory. She dug 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:36.880 up the info on the corporate retreat in Lake George, 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:40.680 and she confirms that Luna was in a suite with Sequoia, 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.400 not in a cabin. There are also zero texts or 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:48.560 calls between Luna and Tisa the entire time or maybe 0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:52.160 ever and there's tons between Tisa and Venay. The tech 0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:55.160 CEO Rollins goes, I've been going through the emails and 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:58.279 a lot of them sound like Luna, but some of 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.839 them have phrases that are more male and aggressive then 0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:04.840 Luna's ide elect and I'm like, back in, this is 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:06.360 what I was saying, Like, well, we talked about this 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.520 on a Patreon, but like back in the day they 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:10.880 would bring in an expert on language to like analyze 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:12.440 these emails, and now they're like, I don't think we 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:13.560 have time to shoot that, and we don't have the 0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:15.480 money to pay somebody to have like an under five here, 0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.200 so let's just bring in Rollin's and make her an 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:20.399 expert in dialect and like language. 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.240 Well, they're also trying to like set up this smart 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:27.879 like that she's like smart. Yeah, like that she's along right, 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.480 and that's she's not smart, but she is smart. But 0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.400 for her to be really good at tech, no financial crimes, 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.120 no the mind of a serial killer, Like she knows psychology, 0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:40.520 she also knows like dialect and like linguistics. 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.080 It's just very confusing to me. 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.160 Plus all her sports knowledge, it's just like too much 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:47.799 to be in one woman's head and she shows all 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:51.280 these emails and there's these phrases where she says where 0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:54.160 like there's phrases like keep my powder dry. Cut to 0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:57.680 the chase red Ocean, and Cat's like, what's red ocean? 0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:59.719 And it reminds me of the phrase blue sky, which 0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.160 is of very like people are always like in a 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:04.080 blue sky world. It is like a thing I learned 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.600 from like bosses, when I worked in more corporate environments, 0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:08.880 I would always say, Okay, what's the blue sky here? Like, 0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:13.200 so red ohen like, you're I think your perfect vision, 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.400 like in your perfect vision, like in the perfect version 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.600 of this, and red Ocehit I think is. 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:21.479 Like rough waters, like not good. This is not looking good. 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:25.120 And so he's realiss like it's an MBA phrase and 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:26.040 he uses it a lot. 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:27.160 Bobby uses it a lot. 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.839 So this is all pointing back to Bobby now and 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:31.319 they're like, but it's still not enough. 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.640 It's just an alternate theory, and Hadid is going to 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:36.920 fucking hate it. Cut to Hadeid hating it, and she's like, 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:39.839 this is just insanely elaborate, like can't Luna just be great? 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:44.320 Crazy and guilty, and Benson points out. Listen, bitch guilty. 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:48.080 People mitigate, they deny, they blame others, they don't blame themselves, 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.520 and think they're losing their mind. Cariese confirms that Luna's 0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:53.800 not faking this, and Hideed says, well, we're. 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:55.520 Not dropping the charges. In fact, we're moving forward with 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:58.839 the prosecution prep all four accuses for grand jury and 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:00.960 Cariese's like, why so they nail down their stories and 0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:04.319 get immunity, And Hadid's like, well, if they're gonna lie, 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.120 I want them on the record right now. 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.120 They think they've gotten away with it, let's not tip 0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.960 our hand. Basically, so Benson's on board. She's like, okay, 0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.880 let's start with Tisa. There's no way she's the mastermind 0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.919 behind all this. So now Hadid and CARESI. 0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:20.919 Wow, she got nothing from the Women's Empowerment Yeah, conference. 0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:25.800 So yeah, why couldn't any woman be a mastermind? You 0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:27.880 have to say that every woman has a mastermind inside 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.480 of them, even though I myself just said that there's 0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:33.840 no way Brolins has knowledge of all these very specific subjects. 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:37.520 Now, Hadeid in Karesa. 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.880 I just watched an interview with Penelope Cruz. I think 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:42.560 she's promoting a movie that people seem to like the invite, 0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:46.880 but they were like, what's your fun hobby or think 0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:50.040 you're obsessed with that? No one would know, and she said, 0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:53.880 for the past twelve years, she reads med's school textbooks 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:54.480 every night. 0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.560 Whoa, she like loves it. 0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.080 She's like, I'm reading about the endocrine system right now. 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.240 She's just like she just loves it. And she just 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:05.320 reads medical textbooks every night. 0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:10.360 Wow, Penelope Cruz pre met love it. So now Hadida 0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:13.400 and CARIESI have Tissa in an empty courtroom prepping her. 0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:17.000 She seems extremely nervous. She's hesitant when they say, wow, yeah, 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:21.000 Luna could go to prison for years, and she's like, wow, years, okay, 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:23.960 and then they ask her to say what happened, but 0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:28.920 they bump on the cabin thing. They're like, here's the problem, babe, 0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:33.680 the cabin. She never had a cabin and she's like, oh, okay. Well, 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.480 well then they're like, well, how were you invited there? 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.200 They're like, well, she called me and they're like that's 0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:40.320 weird too, babe. There's no record of her calling you. 0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.320 And she's like, oh, she texts it. Yeah, there's zero 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:46.720 text between you two but we also checked your phone 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:48.880 and there are no text with Luna, but a ton 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:52.000 with Venet. She's like, we're coworkers. It's like, do you 0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.680 call your other coworkers at two am? So if you 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:56.680 tell this story to the granjury, you'll be looking at 0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:59.520 seven years for perjury. And Cariese's like, I think you're 0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.000 a good who maybe got talked to saying some shit 0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:05.520 that you know is wrong. She starts crying, immediately spills 0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.800 and she goes, that's right. It wasn't my idea, it 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.200 was Vene. He said, wouldn't go to trial. He said 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.400 Luna was crazy and that we needed to save the company. 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:16.480 So now I mean still like a pretty fucked up Uh. 0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:18.600 To save the company, I just need you to pretend 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:19.640 you were raped by the boss. 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:20.640 Like that's a little wild. 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.360 But now talking to Luna in the psych word with 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.920 her lawyer and they're like, so you're telling me Tissa 0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:28.760 admitted that she made it up because she was having 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:31.640 an affair with Vena and he talked her into it. 0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:36.080 And Venet is denying it, they said, and Miglannie the 0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.360 lawyer is like, so what's going on here? And Benson 0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:41.720 drops the bomb that they think that Vnay, Bobby, and 0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:45.000 Melanie have all been conspiring to frame Luna for embezzlement 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:48.080 and assault. She's like, so I never wrote the emails 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.880 and they're like, yeah, we're assuming Venet accessed your account. 0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:53.200 So she goes my passwords would be very hard to hack. 0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:56.280 They're very complicated, and Rollins goes first pet and the 0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:59.680 street you grew up on, and Luna's like, fuck, but 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.000 also so it includes my home phone number from when 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:04.080 I was a kid, and that was onlisted. Only a 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:09.120 few friends knew it, and she's realizing, and then she 1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:11.840 goes Pinky and they're like, who the fuck is Pinky? 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.520 And she's like, Pinky is Melanie's nickname from when we 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:17.600 were kids. We went to summer camp together. And they're like, 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.200 why didn't you mention that. She's like, it was a 1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:24.000 lifetime ago. I'm not Lauri from Hackensack anymore. I evolved 1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.280 and they're like, is it possible that you evolved but 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:29.320 Melanie didn't. So now we've got Melanie and cement room 1:00:29.360 --> 1:00:32.160 bars and she's going, oh, yeah, I mean Luna and 1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:34.880 I were friends a long time ago. That doesn't mean 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:38.400 I hacked her talked to Ana, and they're like, oh, well, 1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:41.040 we're talking to him and his girlfriend, Tisa, and Melanie's like, 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.720 Tisa is his girlfriend, he's married, Like, I'm really not 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.240 buying her shit. But then they go, well, maybe that's 1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:48.680 why Tisa gave him up. She didn't want to go 1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:51.000 down for a fake rape accusation that you guys pressured 1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:54.640 her into. And Melanie denies it. She's like, and her 1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:56.480 lawyer goes, what exactly do you have on my client? 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:59.480 And Benson explains the conspiracy with Bobby and Benata frame 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.000 Luna and to rape her, and Melanie goes, no, that 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:04.840 was never part of the plan, and Crisy said, well, 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:06.760 if you help plan a rape, you're just as guilty 1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:09.080 as the rapist, and her lawyer whispers something in her ear, 1:01:09.120 --> 1:01:11.720 and then she goes, Bobby told me that never happened 1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:13.640 and that Luna made it up. But when I saw 1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:16.000 the results of the rape kit, he said it was consensual. 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:19.560 Melanie's basically like fucking Bobby. He never got over Luna 1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:22.320 dumping his ass. And she said, I had nothing to 1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:24.520 do with the rape. Everything else was to protect the company. 1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:25.880 We knew she was going to drive us off a 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:29.560 Cliff with an HR lawsuit the FDA. She has no boundaries. 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:32.680 It's all about her all the time. Have Bobby and 1:01:32.760 --> 1:01:35.520 Vana cooperated yet? And the lawyer asks, and he goes. 1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:39.320 So we get the cheese, and Carisy goes the whole wheel, 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:42.120 and Benson says to Melanie, he has to cut you 1:01:42.200 --> 1:01:42.600 a deal. 1:01:42.840 --> 1:01:45.120 But if it were up to me, how could you 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.800 do that to another woman? And she goes, she spent 1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:50.240 her whole life doing that to other women. We didn't 1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:52.320 have a lot growing up, and one Christmas, my father 1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:54.560 got me a gold heart necklace. I knew I shouldn't, 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.600 but I wore it to camp and then one day 1:01:56.640 --> 1:01:57.440 it disappeared. 1:01:57.560 --> 1:01:58.440 I was wrecked. 1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:01.520 Was just obviously reminded me of an actual kleptomaniac that 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:03.720 we had at our camp who stole everybody's everything and 1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:05.440 we found it all rolled up in her tent flaps 1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:06.160 at the end of the summer. 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.200 Anyway, the next summer, she goes, I was wrecked. 1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:10.880 I lied to my parents and said I was like 1:02:11.000 --> 1:02:13.080 over it, but I was so heartbroken that I lost 1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:15.520 the necklace. And the next summer who shows up wearing 1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:18.800 the necklace but Lorie. She denied it. She said it 1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:20.800 was hers, but that she could that I could borrow 1:02:20.800 --> 1:02:24.840 it sometime. So she spent her entire life doing this 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:27.640 to me, stealing what's mine and then acting gracious and 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:29.400 letting me have just a little bit back. It's a 1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:32.840 crazy kind of gaslighting. And Benson goes, so you gaslighted 1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:35.760 her right back? We be, well, was my idea? I 1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:39.240 made the business plan. Luna is gorgeous, charming, radiant. I 1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:40.920 just wanted her to say she was sorry. I just 1:02:40.960 --> 1:02:43.600 wanted her to give me my necklace back. So wee 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:45.840 b well, was your idea, they say, But whose idea 1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:47.360 was it to take it back from Luna? 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:48.320 Okay? 1:02:49.200 --> 1:02:51.720 Cut to Bobby, and I do keep accidentally writing Booby 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:53.400 when I'm writing his name, and I kind of think 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:53.760 of bits. 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:57.280 Also sitting at a dinner with investors, and he's telling 1:02:57.320 --> 1:02:59.560 them it's going to be a blue ocean. Everyone a 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:02.800 blue oce, and Luna was the problem, and removing her 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:03.600 front was the action. 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.080 The success is the result. Calm blue ocean now. 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:09.360 And Rollins and Timine approach to arrest him, and he 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:11.720 wants to call his lawyer, and Ronin goes, keep your 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:13.720 powder dry. You can call her on the way downtown. 1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:17.080 So now we're at Luna's apartment and Benson is explaining 1:03:17.280 --> 1:03:20.120 that Bobby took a plea he'll do seven years, been 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:22.360 a will do five And she goes and my old 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:25.800 friend Melanie, And Benson goes, there was no case without her. 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:29.800 So she walks and you know, for the men, it 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:33.200 was just about the money, but for her, and Luna goes, 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:35.240 I could have been a better friend. I've been thinking 1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:37.480 about it. When you arrested me, I thought it was karma. 1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:39.960 I've burned a lot of bridges. Hell, I burned my 1:03:40.000 --> 1:03:42.360 whole house down, and Benson goes, well, you know what 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:45.080 happens when your house burns down. You get a clear 1:03:45.160 --> 1:03:48.200 view of the sky, and Luna like smiles at her 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:51.720 with that same kind of like showman smile that she 1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:54.000 had during the conference at the beginning, and goes, you 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:57.080 mind if I steal that, and then they just kind 1:03:57.120 --> 1:03:58.760 of look at each other and that's dick o. 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:00.880 Baby learned nothing. 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:04.960 Yeah, but I mean it is like this is one 1:04:04.960 --> 1:04:09.080 of the most interesting like episodes about gaslighting. They literally 1:04:09.160 --> 1:04:11.960 just gaslight her ass until she literally almost went crazy, 1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:16.080 but also their antics also they this man raped her 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:18.280 and then the antics got her sent to prison where 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:24.480 she was sexually assaulted again. So I think the they 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:26.880 went much too far. 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:30.080 But yeah, this episode is wild. 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:34.760 It's a good one. Yeah, yes, for you just killing 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:38.760 it non stop, non stop. But to be like everything's 1:04:38.840 --> 1:04:41.040 byve take from people like need to be a better 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:42.360 friend and then then go. 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:43.360 Mind if I steal that. 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:48.360 Yeah, you kind of wonder if she's good, if she's 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:49.080 learned anything. 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:51.960 I mean, she's gonna have elet trauma. 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:54.240 Right, she's been raped a few times and gas lip 1:04:54.280 --> 1:04:55.040 by everyone around her. 1:04:55.080 --> 1:04:56.320 She'll probably never trust anyone, to. 1:04:56.320 --> 1:04:57.320 Trust anyone again. 1:04:57.480 --> 1:05:02.120 Yeah, it's like insane. It's a good hypnotherapist. 1:05:09.440 --> 1:05:13.480 So this is the Simona Samasar and Jerry ram Rattan case, 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:15.960 which reminds me of what is it? 1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:22.160 What's the racketan? Oh? Racketin? Is that what it is? 1:05:22.200 --> 1:05:24.640 But what is that material where it's like a material 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:30.360 in between the wood? I don't know, Oh oh, oh Rattan. Rattan, 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:34.280 yeaht Racketan is like a website, website where you can 1:05:34.320 --> 1:05:36.880 like pay for like where you can get money for 1:05:36.920 --> 1:05:40.000 shopping or something. Yeah, Rattan, that's not his name, but 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:44.600 I kept thinking about it. Ramarratan so Simona and Jerry. 1:05:44.760 --> 1:05:47.640 So Jerry raped Simona and then framed her for a 1:05:47.680 --> 1:05:50.240 series of crimes that never took place, which landed her 1:05:50.280 --> 1:05:51.520 in jail for seven months. 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:54.160 Oh my god, it's crazy. 1:05:54.240 --> 1:05:58.479 So Simona owned a restaurant and ram Ratan first entered 1:05:58.480 --> 1:06:00.840 in two thousand and six and introduce himself as a 1:06:00.880 --> 1:06:04.200 detective for the Brooklyn DA's office. He had a gun, badge, 1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:07.120 bull approofvests, handcuffs like, he had all this stuff. And 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:10.600 then he had a friend like called George Tara at 1:06:10.600 --> 1:06:13.200 the Brooklyn DIA's office, and he introduced him like, oh, 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:16.840 that's my boss, and he acted like a regular whenever 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:20.240 she brought him there. And she did hear George and 1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:23.480 Jerry talk about under cover jobs in Sunset Park at 1:06:23.480 --> 1:06:26.720 the Sweet Cherry Strip club, and she would drop him 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:30.040 off at like various precincts, and half of his phone 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:32.520 book was other cops, you know, but he was just 1:06:32.680 --> 1:06:34.320 kind of pretending to work with them. 1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:35.200 He was not a cop. 1:06:35.600 --> 1:06:38.840 He had a prior robbery conviction and then became a 1:06:38.880 --> 1:06:42.520 longtime confidential informant for the law enforcement and he did 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:45.800 paid and not paid work for them, so he did 1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:47.560 know them. He was a regular, but he was not 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:49.960 a cop, not a detective, nothing. He did some like 1:06:50.040 --> 1:06:53.680 PI work, but he's just a fucking informant because he 1:06:53.720 --> 1:06:56.800 got caught. She was a single mother and former Morgan 1:06:56.920 --> 1:07:00.360 Stanley analyst, and she was charmed by him, even though 1:07:00.360 --> 1:07:01.920 she did sense something was up right. 1:07:02.000 --> 1:07:04.080 She's like, something's not ripe, but what are you gonna do? 1:07:04.280 --> 1:07:06.320 Sometimes they dated. They dated. 1:07:07.040 --> 1:07:08.840 He would carry her a gun around and would show 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:11.360 up to her home and invite it to family functions. 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:11.720 Weird. 1:07:12.200 --> 1:07:14.600 He also lied and said he was from Guyana like her, 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:17.720 but he was really from Trinidad. So there were bad vibes. 1:07:17.840 --> 1:07:21.800 But they still dated. And then March eighth, two thousand 1:07:21.840 --> 1:07:24.080 and nine, he was at her house. They got into 1:07:24.080 --> 1:07:28.160 a dispute and she demanded that he leave, so instead 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:31.680 he taped her mouth shut with duct tape, dragged her 1:07:31.720 --> 1:07:34.600 into the basement, and raped her. He then held her 1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:38.560 captive for hours, and during that time he ordered Chinese food, 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:41.120 watched TV, put a gun to his own head. 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:42.600 And this was like even. 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:44.640 Before raping her, so like taped her, kept her up, 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:48.120 you know, captive, did all these weird things and then 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:51.680 raped her, and then Oxygen Network reported that she's quoted 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:54.200 explaining her attack like I'm trying to fight him off, 1:07:54.200 --> 1:07:56.160 but I can't and I can't breathe, and I really 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:59.080 felt like I was going to pass out. Then after 1:07:59.120 --> 1:08:02.040 his rape, he starts to cry and apologize and said, 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:04.280 I'm so sorry. I never meant for this to happen, 1:08:04.360 --> 1:08:07.720 And that's what the New York Times. Then he left Simona, 1:08:08.640 --> 1:08:12.840 and then she showered, made a cup of tea and 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:15.480 called nine to one to one and in the in 1:08:15.520 --> 1:08:17.719 the nine one one recording, and they played that in court. 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:19.880 You could tell she was like her voice was hoarse, 1:08:20.320 --> 1:08:24.559 she was faint and agitated. He then did turn himself 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:27.040 in after the police issued a warrant for his arrest, 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:28.799 but he was free on bond. 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:29.640 Remember that. 1:08:30.479 --> 1:08:33.120 So then when she refused to drop the rape charges 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:36.559 against him, he decided to concoct an elaborate frame up 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:39.240 with his skills as a former you know, private detective 1:08:39.400 --> 1:08:43.040 or whatnot, whatever his job was. So the New York 1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:46.080 Times calls it straight out of a Law and Order episode, 1:08:46.680 --> 1:08:50.240 but he said he used CSI for his inspiration. So 1:08:50.280 --> 1:08:53.040 he did watch a lot of CSI and procedurals. And 1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:55.200 so a little more than a year after she accused 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:58.000 Ramartan of rape, she was pulled over by police and 1:08:58.080 --> 1:09:01.160 handcuffed and thrown in jail. Her bail was set at 1:09:01.160 --> 1:09:05.400 one million dollars what and she couldn't afford it, so 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:09.120 she remained in jail. So he got like fucking bond 1:09:09.200 --> 1:09:12.000 and bail for his rape. He had rape charges. Let 1:09:12.000 --> 1:09:15.120 they let his ass out. She yeah, hers was one 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:17.840 million dollar bail, But what's the charge? They don't and 1:09:17.880 --> 1:09:20.320 she doesn't know. No, no, I'll get into it. Oh, 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:22.880 I'll definitely get into all of that. And so and 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:27.080 with she had an iron clad alibi. So basically he 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:30.120 like set her up as all of these robberies and 1:09:30.160 --> 1:09:34.360 paid witnesses to say that she did it and that 1:09:34.439 --> 1:09:36.680 she was dressed as a cop and came to their 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:39.200 door and then robbed them. And so she paid off 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:42.400 three people to do this. But she had an iron 1:09:42.479 --> 1:09:45.880 clad alibi. So one of these bogus robberies they tried 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.400 to get her on she was at a casino. There's 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:51.559 security footage at Mohegan's son where she's there. But they 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:54.800 were like, oh, it's blurry, so that's not nothing kept 1:09:54.800 --> 1:09:55.240 her in jail. 1:09:56.520 --> 1:09:59.040 She didn't see her daughter for seven months. Her mother 1:09:59.160 --> 1:09:59.639 got sick. 1:09:59.720 --> 1:10:03.479 During this time, her house went into foreclosure, she lost 1:10:03.600 --> 1:10:07.040 her business. So he walked free after raping her, and 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:09.320 she sits in jail and she's like all hope was lost. 1:10:10.120 --> 1:10:12.320 But then one of the people, like an informant, went 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:15.360 to the police and explained that the alleged crimes never 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:19.320 took place. So basically, during the trial, these three witnesses 1:10:19.360 --> 1:10:23.400 testified that he staged fake crime scenes and convinced them 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:27.240 to make false reports to the police that Sumasar had 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:32.120 impersonated a policewoman and robbed them at gunpoint. He showed 1:10:32.120 --> 1:10:34.160 them photos of her so they could pick her out 1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:38.040 from a lineup. And then Ramarton pled not guilty to 1:10:38.080 --> 1:10:41.920 all charges, tons of charges, rape, perjury, conspiracy, faced more 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:45.040 than twenty five years in prison. And then boy mameler 1:10:45.320 --> 1:10:48.280 Shirley Ramarton told The New York Times, my son is innocent. 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:52.240 Women like him, women like him too much. It's all 1:10:52.240 --> 1:10:57.959 about jealousy, clearly, clearly, yeah. But there was physical evidence 1:10:58.080 --> 1:11:01.360 and an expert from the NYPDESFI that a fingerprint was 1:11:01.360 --> 1:11:03.599 found on duct tape in her house. Following the attack, 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:07.160 and then November twenty eleven, she took the stand at 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:10.400 the State Supreme Court in Queens and while she testified, 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:13.160 this guy was muttering under his breath and smirking and 1:11:13.200 --> 1:11:15.800 like she's wiping away tears. She's so upset, and he's like, 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:18.519 doesn't give a fuck, He's so cocky. And then the 1:11:18.640 --> 1:11:21.559 jury deliberated for a day and a half. They found 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:25.760 him guilty on more than ten charges. Yes, yeah, So 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:28.719 during her impact statement, she called him a sociopath, according 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:32.760 to CBS News, and said he was a sinister manipulator, 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:37.719 diabolical coniver, and an evil and vindictive schemer. You made 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:39.920 sure I was left with nothing when you were done, 1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:42.360 because you're evil. I don't even have words for you. 1:11:42.600 --> 1:11:45.160 I know that you're pure evil and you're a sociopath 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:50.280 and you need help. So he was found guilty on rape, perjury, conspiracy, 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:53.240 tampering with a witness, falsely reporting an incident. He was 1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:57.240 sentenced on January fourth of the following year to the 1:11:57.280 --> 1:11:59.360 max thirty two years behind bars. 1:11:59.400 --> 1:12:01.360 All right, and. 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:04.160 Then after being sentenced, according to the New York Post, boo, 1:12:04.600 --> 1:12:06.800 but he said he's not done with her yet, I'm 1:12:06.840 --> 1:12:07.280 not done. 1:12:07.280 --> 1:12:08.439 I'm not done, they say. 1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:11.280 He raged inside the queen Court, like in the in 1:12:11.320 --> 1:12:13.880 the court at room, he said this like in Queen's 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:17.200 coming down to screaming, and then a New York prosecutor 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:20.120 is quoted in CNN saying that it was one of 1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:23.800 the most bizarre cases his office has ever seen. He 1:12:23.880 --> 1:12:27.200 gave an exclusive jailhouse interview to ABC seven News in 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:30.120 January twenty twelve and said, if I'm a schemer and 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:32.120 a liar, why did they allow me to do all 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:36.800 these those cases? Then it's like, honey, do you think 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:38.840 the cops have any morals? Like are you out of 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:41.960 your mind? It's like so crazy. If I'm a schemer 1:12:42.000 --> 1:12:43.640 and a liar, why would the police even work with 1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:45.200 me and put me on those cases? And it's like 1:12:45.240 --> 1:12:48.160 they're using you because they knew you were a criminal, Yeah, 1:12:48.200 --> 1:12:52.720 and you owed them, so whatever. Other and then other 1:12:52.760 --> 1:12:54.880 people were charged in the scheme to frame the innocent 1:12:54.880 --> 1:12:59.959 woman as well, So good Terrell Laval and Loz Johnson 1:13:00.200 --> 1:13:02.920 were charged with perjury. The third person I couldn't find 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:05.000 their name, but like all three were charged in like 1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:09.080 helping the scheme. And then Sumasar did sue the NYPD 1:13:09.200 --> 1:13:12.400 after losing her home and job and time with her daughter, 1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:17.640 and so the city settled for an undisclosed amount, and like, 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:21.519 the defendants settled their claims for two million dollars, so 1:13:21.520 --> 1:13:24.960 she got two million? Yeah, but then what's the undisclosed? Like, 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:27.920 I don't really understand what, so I guess two million? 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:30.680 Oh the maybe it's the county gave like versus the 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:32.720 city versus like what NYPD gave her. 1:13:32.760 --> 1:13:35.400 Oh yeah, so the county gave her two million and 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:36.680 then undisclosed for them. 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:39.000 But I hope the NYPD gave her like another five 1:13:39.160 --> 1:13:41.280 She fucking deserves all of it. 1:13:41.640 --> 1:13:42.960 That's yeah, fucking awful. 1:13:43.360 --> 1:13:45.519 Yeah, I just hope her and her daughter are living, Like, 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:48.639 did you find the uniform that she wore for fake? 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:50.559 Do you have any pictures like besides these random three 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:52.639 people that came out of the woodwork and said, oh, yeah, 1:13:52.640 --> 1:13:56.000 she did this, like I don't know. 1:13:55.960 --> 1:13:57.879 It's weird, and it was, and she had an alibi, 1:13:57.960 --> 1:13:59.240 so it's like, what the fuck? 1:13:59.560 --> 1:14:03.639 Yeah, Moleaguan Sun too, I've been there. Damn Well, thanks 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:06.040 for hooking into this one. I didn't know about this case. 1:14:06.080 --> 1:14:08.680 This is why, but. 1:14:08.680 --> 1:14:13.600 It is it's so wild and that's why, like you 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:16.040 think about us to you and all this, and it's like, yeah, 1:14:16.080 --> 1:14:18.439 it's real life. And for those seven months he probably 1:14:18.439 --> 1:14:20.519 thought he was like such a fucking genius that he was, 1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:22.640 like I framed her, I did it. She's out of 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:24.960 my life, like I beat this rape charge and I 1:14:25.000 --> 1:14:29.760 framed her, Like oh my god, wow, I'm so I 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:31.520 hope that guy fucking rots. 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:35.519 All right, well, we have an incredible interview coming up, 1:14:35.560 --> 1:14:46.720 so don't go anywhere, okay. Our guest today is an 1:14:46.800 --> 1:14:50.519 actor who has worked predominantly in film. She's had main 1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:54.040 roles in movies like Man on Fire, Silent Hill, High Art, Olympus, 1:14:54.040 --> 1:14:57.040 Has Fallen and many others. But you know her today 1:14:57.439 --> 1:15:03.240 as the morally dubious wellness brand SHEEO Luna Prasada. Please 1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:06.600 enjoy our chat with the wonderful Roder Mitchell. 1:15:06.920 --> 1:15:09.000 Was this an offer? I'm assuming they just came. 1:15:08.840 --> 1:15:11.120 To you, you know they did. And I was in 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:17.240 Australia and I had just finally booked a holiday to 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:20.000 Byron Bay. And to be honest, like I said, I'm 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:22.479 sort of out of like what is going on? So 1:15:22.960 --> 1:15:25.840 my manager had passed away this is my manager I 1:15:25.880 --> 1:15:28.760 had had for many, many years, and I was in 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:32.120 this new relationship with the new manager, like very recently, 1:15:32.680 --> 1:15:34.760 and they rang and they said, well, there's this opportunity. 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:38.280 Do you want to go like tomorrow is. 1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:39.519 That New York? 1:15:40.360 --> 1:15:43.920 And you're gonna hate this. I was like no. I 1:15:44.000 --> 1:15:49.240 was thinking, no, you're gonna hate this. But I was like, well, 1:15:49.320 --> 1:15:52.120 if they'll double the money, Oh my god, this is 1:15:52.160 --> 1:15:56.439 so honest. And then he did. I was like, my god, 1:15:56.479 --> 1:15:57.479 what a great manager. 1:15:57.680 --> 1:15:59.679 Yeah, do ask for what you want. 1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:03.240 But then I was on the plane like the next day. 1:16:04.160 --> 1:16:07.519 So that was the holiday gone, and I was on 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:11.360 set like upon landing, like I went to costume for 1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:14.200 like twenty minutes, and then I was in that courtroom 1:16:14.240 --> 1:16:19.320 scene by a boom, and I was like, inventing this 1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:23.920 character on the fly, And I think you have like 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:26.439 a week to shoot. I don't know, has anyone confirmed that? 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:29.040 Yeah, usually it's like day something. 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:32.760 Yeah. So I got into the hotel room, of course, 1:16:32.800 --> 1:16:35.080 and I was totally jet lagged. But it also gave 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:37.800 me the opportunity to just sit there and like, you know, 1:16:38.000 --> 1:16:40.680 watch talk show hosts and get a sense of you know, 1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:44.200 the character could be so I was sort of inventing 1:16:44.280 --> 1:16:46.519 it as it was happening, and I think I made 1:16:46.840 --> 1:16:51.000 I watched it last night just to get on doing that. 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:52.800 A lot of people come on and are like, I 1:16:52.800 --> 1:16:55.360 don't remember anything really and I haven't seen any years 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:56.000 what I did. 1:16:56.920 --> 1:16:58.160 And then I watched to see if it was a 1:16:58.200 --> 1:17:01.720 popular episode, and it was like, no, not, but I 1:17:01.800 --> 1:17:04.439 thought it was. You know. I think I made some bold, 1:17:04.600 --> 1:17:07.120 broad choices which I had to sort of make quickly, 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:12.000 and I just went for it and that's the results 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:12.280 of it. 1:17:12.640 --> 1:17:15.960 Now we love this episode because it also after watching 1:17:16.040 --> 1:17:19.200 so many svus, you can kind of get what's happening, 1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:22.000 and this one was surprising and shocking throughout the whole thing. 1:17:22.160 --> 1:17:23.799 Like when you read the script, was it. 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:26.200 Yeah, you know what? And I was so out of it, 1:17:26.240 --> 1:17:28.519 like you're gonna again, You're gonna be so we're gonna 1:17:28.560 --> 1:17:31.800 love it. I was like, this is so zeitgeisty. Oh 1:17:31.840 --> 1:17:34.880 my god, it's so like on the moment because it 1:17:34.920 --> 1:17:37.960 was a whole me too moment, and and then I 1:17:37.960 --> 1:17:40.559 didn't realize that, yeah, twenty years of the show, it's 1:17:40.560 --> 1:17:43.679 always about a rape, Like that whole point of this show. 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:47.080 It's always about like these kinds of issues. So that 1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.720 was like, oh, I was figuring that out. But honestly, 1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:55.479 at the time we were shooting, Carvey Weinstein was on trial. Uh, 1:17:56.120 --> 1:18:00.719 Gwyneth Paltrow had put her a vagina candle out into 1:18:00.760 --> 1:18:03.840 the world, So this was all kind of the context 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:08.680 of conversations on set and what was happening. So it 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:13.920 seemed just like a very relevant exploration of that moment. 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:19.800 And the character, you know, is a flawed character. In 1:18:19.840 --> 1:18:24.400 the end, she kind of reviews her own perspective on things, 1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:27.240 you know, and justice is served, thank god. 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.280 But also, I think what's so cool about this episode 1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:33.439 two is the way that they use gaslighting, because I 1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:36.240 think like gaslighting was sort of coming into the consciousness 1:18:36.280 --> 1:18:38.800 as like it's obviously been around in literature and things 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:41.080 like that for decades, but yeah, you know, with people 1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:44.479 using it more in the zeitgeist, as you say, like yeah, 1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:47.639 to really hit home like this is what it is 1:18:47.720 --> 1:18:51.720 like convincing someone that they are basically going insane, you know. 1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:53.960 Yeah, and your jet lag. 1:18:53.840 --> 1:18:56.400 Must have helped your performance, as like I was like, 1:18:56.680 --> 1:18:58.519 this woman is losing it. 1:18:58.720 --> 1:19:00.479 I just went for it. But I don't think I 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:02.880 was planning that it just sort of like just was 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:05.000 like happening in the scene and I like to just 1:19:05.120 --> 1:19:07.160 I actually like to be free like that. 1:19:07.840 --> 1:19:10.400 It was so like the way you were like laughing 1:19:10.600 --> 1:19:13.640 but then also would like scream randomly. 1:19:13.479 --> 1:19:16.040 Yeah, kind of crazy, like yeah fun. 1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:19.120 I thought also though that you played like the funny 1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:23.680 bits at the beginning, really funny, like just the like 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:26.800 the character that's like it is Gwyneth Paltrow, but you're 1:19:26.880 --> 1:19:29.080 like a little bit thirstier than her, you know, like 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:31.720 she's a little bit like because she comes from Hollywood, 1:19:31.760 --> 1:19:34.000 so she's very like you were sort of like Gwyneth 1:19:34.000 --> 1:19:36.080 Paltrow mixed with like an influencer. 1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:39.720 I would say, like, yeah, influencers are like you guys 1:19:39.760 --> 1:19:41.639 are gonna love it, you know, like just. 1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:43.800 And it was it was, it was intense. And then 1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:45.840 you know who I was also watching. You're not gonna 1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:47.240 like this either, Oprah. 1:19:47.560 --> 1:19:50.719 Oprah, Oh, we love everything that you're saying. 1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:54.680 That's cool, No, because she's a real performer, and you know, 1:19:54.800 --> 1:19:56.840 I hadn't watched a lot of Oprah before I like 1:19:56.880 --> 1:19:59.880 locked myself in that hotel room and I was like, Wow, 1:20:00.040 --> 1:20:03.960 she's amazing. But she performs and she hams it up 1:20:04.360 --> 1:20:05.440 for her audience. 1:20:05.640 --> 1:20:09.000 Yeah, and she like dictates culture, I mean book clubs, 1:20:09.040 --> 1:20:11.640 like products like to get on an Oprah list or 1:20:11.720 --> 1:20:13.840 be chosen by Oprah was a really big deal. 1:20:14.520 --> 1:20:17.960 Yeah, totally. And it's it's marketing as well. 1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:20.720 Well. We also love that she was like, well, what 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:22.360 was the town Hackensack? We love that. 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:24.599 Oh that her name is really laur was new Skill 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:25.440 from Hackensack. 1:20:25.560 --> 1:20:29.360 Like that's like the funniest little detail on the writers. 1:20:29.040 --> 1:20:31.439 You know how, and certain things kind of convince you 1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:34.080 to do things like oh you think, oh yeah, oh 1:20:34.160 --> 1:20:37.080 that that fits somehow with some aspect in my life. 1:20:37.200 --> 1:20:41.400 Like my mom's also got a few different names over 1:20:41.400 --> 1:20:45.640 the years, you know, because of her spiritual journeys and 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:49.200 other journeys. Anyway, So one of her names with all 1:20:49.200 --> 1:20:54.720 her Italian friends was Luna. I'm like, oh, Luna, Luna Persada, Okay. 1:20:54.439 --> 1:20:56.599 This is the sign, you know totally. 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:02.360 So little things like that kind of peak one's interest. Wait, 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:03.160 did you. 1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:05.000 Do you remember your wardrobe? Because they had you in 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:08.439 some really beautiful clothes. I feel like, and remember like 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:13.200 at one point you're in this like cashmir like match set, and. 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:15.400 Then they come to basically tell you that you're under arrest. 1:21:15.439 --> 1:21:18.960 And it's very it's just like a juxtaposition of you 1:21:19.000 --> 1:21:22.880 going from like cozy comfort, huge white loft, like. 1:21:23.640 --> 1:21:26.960 The true jump suit, like you're in jail, you get 1:21:26.840 --> 1:21:29.520 of my mom like there's nothing like a cashmere jumpsuit. 1:21:29.760 --> 1:21:32.400 My mom's like eighty something and she's just entered the 1:21:32.439 --> 1:21:36.080 age carrot and I bought her a Kashmir jumpsuit and 1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:38.639 for a week she didn't take this thing off because 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:42.520 because first thing, you feel quite like, you know, glamorous 1:21:42.520 --> 1:21:45.840 in your Kashmir. But then you're so comfortable. You know, 1:21:46.360 --> 1:21:49.200 it's like the most comfortable thing you can wear. So 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.960 you're right, Yeah, to be dragged out of the cocoon. 1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:55.480 Of your cashmere or your cashmere cocoon straight to jail. 1:21:55.400 --> 1:21:58.000 Yeah, it's great to jail. And then and I think 1:21:58.040 --> 1:22:00.760 I was even Adelais being some dialogue in Yeah, that's 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:04.599 the thing you could when you've had like two minutes 1:22:04.640 --> 1:22:07.400 to learn the script, you're allowed to improv. They give 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:11.280 you that liberty, and normally on television they do not. 1:22:11.479 --> 1:22:14.760 That's so interesting because we've well I think we've heard 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:17.639 more of it when it was the Maloney years. 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:18.080 When it was. 1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:21.400 Christopher Maloney was on the show as well. Yeah, the 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:24.559 first twelve seasons, people would say, he really doesn't like 1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:25.559 it when people improvise. 1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:27.519 He's like sticked to what's on the script. 1:22:27.560 --> 1:22:30.280 But you're in season here, so by season twenty one, 1:22:30.320 --> 1:22:31.920 they're letting people loosen up a little bit. 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:34.680 Well, I remember, like I got dragged off and my 1:22:34.840 --> 1:22:38.640 character I, for some reason, was screaming out, this isn't justice, 1:22:38.680 --> 1:22:43.040 this is insanity, you know, as a preude to her insanity. 1:22:42.320 --> 1:22:43.880 Yet her actual insanity. 1:22:44.680 --> 1:22:47.960 But but I did a show where I was the lead, 1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:50.280 which was like I was like, wow, this is a lot, 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:54.880 and they were sticklers for every you know, punctuation, like 1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:58.680 you really have to kind of like because it's all 1:22:58.720 --> 1:23:01.760 the timing of the edit. And you know, if there 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:05.519 is a space where writers get, you know, the respect 1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:10.800 that deserve, it's in television more than in film, I think, 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:13.719 because in television it's kind of they decide, they're deciding, 1:23:13.880 --> 1:23:18.120 you know, the showrunner is God really Yeah, So that's 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:21.080 the thing because there's so many different directors. The directors 1:23:21.160 --> 1:23:25.120 are expendable. I shouldn't say that, but you know, the 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:30.559 directors and directors are sticking it together, and then someone 1:23:30.560 --> 1:23:33.720 else is editing it and there's so many different contributors 1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:37.439 that it falls down ultimately. You know, the writers really 1:23:37.479 --> 1:23:40.080 kind of hold their ground there about what the show is. Right. 1:23:40.160 --> 1:23:43.160 You mentioned the difference between TV and movies. Do you 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:46.799 prefer one or it's like role based? 1:23:48.160 --> 1:23:53.120 Oh yeah, role based? Yeah, you know, I should say roll, 1:23:53.200 --> 1:23:58.040 but I prefer films because there's more time, I guess, 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:03.599 and you can and you can you can play with 1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:08.600 what's acceptable. People are looking to kind of subvert formulas, 1:24:08.840 --> 1:24:11.680 you know, that's kind of the space and you've got 1:24:11.720 --> 1:24:19.920 more time. I think television is provides kind of you know, 1:24:20.000 --> 1:24:23.559 the long format. You get involved with characters, which I 1:24:23.600 --> 1:24:27.560 think is something pretty special and there's almost something nostalgic 1:24:27.600 --> 1:24:30.839 about it, you know, like watching shows that you've watched 1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:35.799 over the years and all of that. It's something pretty special. 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:38.840 But to act in them, like to do what Marishika 1:24:38.920 --> 1:24:42.559 is doing is almost superhuman Like to be able to 1:24:42.640 --> 1:24:45.479 do that, I don't know how she does it. Like 1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:48.840 it's a lot of it's a lot of time, but 1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:52.880 it's a lot of energy to sustain it. And I'm 1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:55.280 more of like a sprint type person. Like I can 1:24:55.360 --> 1:24:57.800 like run the hundred meters or something and then I'm like, okay, 1:24:57.960 --> 1:25:00.320 done for me, you know, just give me time to 1:25:00.360 --> 1:25:03.880 catch my breath. But that is like it's the long 1:25:03.960 --> 1:25:07.679 format is like a marathon and imagine it over twenty 1:25:07.760 --> 1:25:08.920 years or something like that. 1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:13.400 Oh yeah, I mean total focus. Yeah, they're about to 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:18.520 start season twenty eight. It's like, really, oh that's thirty years. 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:21.840 Incredible. And one of the things I noticed about her, 1:25:21.880 --> 1:25:24.800 aside from her talent and you know, just the way 1:25:24.840 --> 1:25:29.439 she holds that character, is how she manages her time. 1:25:29.720 --> 1:25:32.880 Like she had always fun things to do every night. 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:36.080 I was like, how does she have the energy for it? 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:41.640 And secondly she's so organized, you know. So that was 1:25:41.840 --> 1:25:44.559 another impressive thing. And that's something you really do have 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:47.920 to protect if you're going to commit two sets sort 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:52.200 of long format thing is to protect your personal time. 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:54.280 But it's important as artists. 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:56.840 I feel sometimes with work it's like you got to work, work, work, 1:25:56.880 --> 1:25:58.320 but like people should go to. 1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:01.880 Dinner and go to plays and enjoy things that feed. 1:26:03.200 --> 1:26:05.400 It feeds you, It feeds you, but you can be 1:26:05.439 --> 1:26:07.880 so exhausted by I mean, imagine that a one woman show. 1:26:08.000 --> 1:26:09.760 You could be exhausted by the end of that and 1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:14.360 just go crash out and catch your z's. But I 1:26:14.400 --> 1:26:18.040 think the inspiration comes from maintaining you know, your own 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:21.000 saying you know and what happens in the real world 1:26:21.200 --> 1:26:24.280 like inspires every day. I guess you can inspire what 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:25.639 you're doing on set. 1:26:25.920 --> 1:26:30.280 And you so Wait, So you were on Neighbors in 1:26:30.320 --> 1:26:35.560 the mid nineties and I spent the summer in Ireland 1:26:35.720 --> 1:26:41.200 of nineteen ninety two. Were you on Neighbors then? Because 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:45.760 I was watching I was watching Neighbors religiously as a 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:48.080 as an eleven year old that. 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:50.920 That show is probably being going on even longer, Right 1:26:51.240 --> 1:26:51.760 when did it? 1:26:52.320 --> 1:26:52.439 Oh? 1:26:52.520 --> 1:26:57.040 Yeah, it's the longest running show in Australia. They canceled 1:26:57.040 --> 1:27:00.759 it finally after I don't know how much, a long 1:27:00.880 --> 1:27:03.880 long time, and then they brought it back a year later. 1:27:04.080 --> 1:27:06.679 So I think they're still shooting Neighbors. This is after 1:27:06.720 --> 1:27:08.519 they made a big deal of like this is the 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:11.960 final episode. We tried to get everybody back, like everybody 1:27:12.640 --> 1:27:15.479 who's ever acted in Australia has been on Neighbors at 1:27:15.479 --> 1:27:15.840 some point. 1:27:16.000 --> 1:27:19.760 Yeah, we got this nine thousand, three hundred episodes. 1:27:19.920 --> 1:27:24.400 Nine eight hundred episodes, three hundred and sixty three episodes. 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:27.080 Oh my Godkay, So it was a nightly show, so 1:27:27.200 --> 1:27:27.639 it went. 1:27:27.520 --> 1:27:31.160 On every every night. Oh my gosh. 1:27:31.200 --> 1:27:34.439 And you understand it was like more popular in England 1:27:34.600 --> 1:27:36.360 even than in Australia. 1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:37.439 Like these, yeah, that's why I was watching it in 1:27:37.439 --> 1:27:39.679 Ireland and they were all like, we love this show, 1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:42.160 like it was this big thing. And then my whole 1:27:42.200 --> 1:27:45.639 life anytime I was like eleven years old and living 1:27:45.680 --> 1:27:48.360 on a farm in Ireland and was loving this show Neighbors, 1:27:48.400 --> 1:27:51.480 and then any time I ever heard of, like when 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:54.000 Nicole Kidman came into my consciousness, for example, they were 1:27:54.000 --> 1:27:57.280 like she was on Neighbors, Like everyone was, that's so cool. 1:27:57.320 --> 1:28:02.080 I love what's his name, Chris Worth? Yeah, like Kyli 1:28:02.120 --> 1:28:03.040 Minogue of course. 1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:03.719 Oh yeah. 1:28:04.479 --> 1:28:07.040 IMDb has this tidbit about you, and I don't know 1:28:07.040 --> 1:28:08.680 if it's correct or not because there's a lot of 1:28:08.720 --> 1:28:11.240 garbage on the Internet, but it says that this fact 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:14.440 about you is that Sir mac Jagger persuaded French customs 1:28:14.479 --> 1:28:17.439 to officials to let you into France to attend the 1:28:17.479 --> 1:28:20.800 can Film Festival because you forgot to bring your visa. 1:28:21.760 --> 1:28:25.400 I didn't forget excuse me, I did not. 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:28.200 I'm courting IMDb. I'm courting no. 1:28:28.200 --> 1:28:28.280 No. 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:32.640 The reality of the situation is, at that time Australians 1:28:33.000 --> 1:28:35.880 needed some sort of visa to go to France and 1:28:35.960 --> 1:28:41.400 Americans didn't. And I was going there to represent high art, 1:28:41.520 --> 1:28:46.080 I think something like that, and so whoever was putting 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:49.120 the trip together didn't factor in that I'd need a visa, 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:54.760 so I didn't know either. Anyway, I was somehow It's 1:28:54.800 --> 1:28:58.360 a twenty four hour flight from Melbourne to to con 1:28:59.320 --> 1:29:01.639 and you stop off somewhere. So I stopped off in London, 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:03.840 and somehow, I think I was sitting next to someone 1:29:03.880 --> 1:29:05.519 on the plane he was like, oh, you really you 1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:09.360 don't need a visa, And I'm like what, And so 1:29:09.479 --> 1:29:12.479 then I thought, well whatever, I'll just go and see 1:29:12.520 --> 1:29:15.960 what happens. And so then I got there and they 1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:18.080 literally took me to another room and why we can't 1:29:18.120 --> 1:29:20.519 let you and you don't have this visa. And it 1:29:20.600 --> 1:29:23.680 was like a private room and there was like a 1:29:23.680 --> 1:29:26.840 couple of seats and there was like someone sitting next 1:29:26.840 --> 1:29:29.280 to me and it was Mick Jagger and he was 1:29:29.320 --> 1:29:33.640 in there like to avoid paparazzi or something. You know, 1:29:33.720 --> 1:29:37.000 in between getting on his flight, and so we had 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:39.880 a little conversation what was going on and this film 1:29:39.960 --> 1:29:44.240 was going to screen that evening, and so he advocated 1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:49.080 on my behalf and explained in French to the customs. 1:29:48.720 --> 1:29:50.120 Of Francis. 1:29:52.000 --> 1:29:56.480 The importance of this situation, and they made a compensation 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:57.639 and they let me in. 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:01.719 Wow, Mick Jagger to the rescue. What a story. 1:30:01.840 --> 1:30:03.479 He's not in Shining Alm. 1:30:04.960 --> 1:30:12.560 Do you have any fun other Hollywood stories like that 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:13.320 the top one. 1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:17.879 Yeah, You've worked with like so many huge people, Denzel Washington. 1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:24.439 It's a lot of weird Yeah, like brushes with all 1:30:24.560 --> 1:30:28.400 kinds of characters that have you know, entered the news somehow, 1:30:28.680 --> 1:30:33.599 like strange things, like wonderful things like working with amazing actors, 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:37.400 and then weird things like you know, I had a 1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:43.639 dinner party once and someone invited, uh, this guy who 1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:48.160 was like a cult leader from like the you know 1:30:48.280 --> 1:30:51.280 that I can't remember you know where they stamped the women? 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:55.200 Do you remember that? Yes? Yes, So there was an 1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:57.880 Australian actress, Bonnie who was a friend of a friend. 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:03.320 She's in that documentary. Somehow her husband had directed this movie. 1:31:03.360 --> 1:31:05.720 What the bleep do we know? Or do you remember this? 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:08.400 Yes, this is all sounding very familiar. 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:10.280 I see, I'm just trying to remember it all. But 1:31:10.360 --> 1:31:13.240 in any case, the offset of it all was that 1:31:13.680 --> 1:31:16.719 I think the leader was at our dinner party. 1:31:16.920 --> 1:31:18.800 Keith Ornery is his name. 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:23.439 Either him or just the guy that directed the What 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:26.559 the bleep do we know? So anyway, so that they 1:31:26.560 --> 1:31:30.240 had called my friend later who's female, and were like 1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:33.800 trying to recruit her to you know, come and hang out. 1:31:33.880 --> 1:31:35.920 And you know, they were living in a sharehouse in 1:31:36.000 --> 1:31:40.599 Venice at the time. So that and then another weird 1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:44.800 thing happened. Sometimes if I'm not in it, Oh, I 1:31:44.800 --> 1:31:49.040 shouldn't say this, No, I'll say it. I sometimes rent 1:31:49.080 --> 1:31:53.600 my house out right if I'm not in town, and 1:31:53.640 --> 1:31:57.040 I won't say how. But anyway, in any case, there 1:31:57.080 --> 1:32:03.479 was a woman who rented it and she she was 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:06.080 renting it like for a photo shoot or something like that, 1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:09.040 and she and I and she it turns out that 1:32:09.160 --> 1:32:14.760 she had this. Her website was the the the Armed 1:32:14.800 --> 1:32:19.519 Meditation or something like this, and uh, do you know 1:32:19.560 --> 1:32:21.760 about this? No, she was in the news as well 1:32:21.840 --> 1:32:25.960 as she was like a sex predator that she she 1:32:26.000 --> 1:32:30.160 had It was like an Orgasmic meditation group that she 1:32:30.320 --> 1:32:34.799 was running with, like she would have people in Silicon Valley, 1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:36.880 like three hundred women in a room. 1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:39.040 I've read I've read an article about this woman. 1:32:39.680 --> 1:32:41.840 Yeah, yeah, so she rented the house. 1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:45.639 Oh my god. 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:48.160 I did not anticipate so much cult. 1:32:49.120 --> 1:32:52.880 Oh my god, in one house, right, you know what's 1:32:52.920 --> 1:32:56.519 going on. So I didn't know that obviously, but he was, 1:32:56.920 --> 1:32:59.519 you know, a time later, she was in the news 1:32:59.840 --> 1:33:02.880 for what happened. So what that's probably not the kind 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:03.639 of story you're. 1:33:03.479 --> 1:33:07.320 Looking at, But no, that's better than our wildest dreams, aren't. Yeah. 1:33:07.439 --> 1:33:08.000 I mean it's. 1:33:07.920 --> 1:33:13.160 Very it's very Hollywood, strangely extremely Hollywood. There's just so 1:33:13.280 --> 1:33:17.639 many different kinds of characters from all parts of the world, 1:33:17.840 --> 1:33:23.000 from all walks of life, and everybody's interested in pushing 1:33:23.479 --> 1:33:27.600 pushing the culture, like what's the new idea, certainly on 1:33:27.640 --> 1:33:30.640 the West Side where I've been living, And so you 1:33:30.800 --> 1:33:34.760 just come across all kinds of characters, some of them genius, 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:37.560 some of them just like you know, insane. 1:33:38.160 --> 1:33:41.280 Yes, she was the founder of One Taste. I just 1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:41.960 found that's it. 1:33:42.040 --> 1:33:44.519 Yeah, And I remember because it was like she did 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:47.200 this like orgasmic meditation and she'd have all these women. 1:33:47.040 --> 1:33:50.240 In her room and yeah and yeah wow, so. 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:52.439 Be careful, be careful what you invite. 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:55.400 Yeah, I'm runting my house out in LA right now 1:33:55.439 --> 1:33:57.960 to an older couple that gardens, and I'm really hoping 1:33:57.960 --> 1:33:59.160 that they're not having some kind. 1:33:59.000 --> 1:34:01.680 Of orgast weekend. It's just for a weekend. I mean 1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:03.160 maybe maybe you'd hope they are. 1:34:03.520 --> 1:34:07.000 You know, do do you feel like you Australia? 1:34:07.200 --> 1:34:09.160 Is this like a stupid question, but like do mosta 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:11.519 because like I was at a party once in La 1:34:11.760 --> 1:34:15.439 that my British friend, she's actually Irish, but she knows 1:34:15.560 --> 1:34:18.919 all of the British and Irish like comedians and actors. 1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:20.840 Like at this party, every single person that lived in 1:34:20.920 --> 1:34:23.400 LA that was British started walking in the door. Is 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:25.320 it like that with Australia? Are you like, oh yeah, 1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:27.040 I sort of know Naomi Watson? 1:34:27.120 --> 1:34:30.200 Yeah, sort you sort of sort of know everybody, okay, 1:34:30.360 --> 1:34:33.320 sort of No, yeah, I mean not mating each other's pockets, right, 1:34:33.360 --> 1:34:36.160 Like that was what was interesting about like swinging Safari, 1:34:36.439 --> 1:34:38.840 like it was a bunch of ex pat Australians you'd 1:34:38.880 --> 1:34:40.720 been living or with, says coming back to make a 1:34:40.720 --> 1:34:44.200 film in Australia who all kind of knew each other 1:34:44.280 --> 1:34:48.080 sort of. Yeah, so that was sort of interesting to 1:34:48.160 --> 1:34:50.960 share that experience because it is a thing like leaving, 1:34:52.160 --> 1:34:56.519 leaving the home country to you know, pursue the adventure 1:34:56.520 --> 1:35:03.960 of it all, a comeback something special. So yeah, on 1:35:04.000 --> 1:35:07.479 a career side, yeah, I've been able to work with 1:35:07.520 --> 1:35:10.720 a lot of interesting people and even recently I made 1:35:10.720 --> 1:35:13.120 a film here which was directed by a woman with 1:35:13.280 --> 1:35:16.160 kind of action film and I'm like, wow, for my 1:35:16.280 --> 1:35:20.240 fiftieth oh yeah, for my fiftieth birthday, I was this 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:24.559 is separate story, but it was interesting. I was like 1:35:24.720 --> 1:35:28.439 really not excited about it. Was like felt this obligation 1:35:28.560 --> 1:35:30.240 to have a party and you know, do all this 1:35:30.360 --> 1:35:34.000 like be fifty bullshit, and I didn't really want to 1:35:34.000 --> 1:35:35.720 do it. And then I got a phone call saying 1:35:35.760 --> 1:35:38.040 do you want to come to London and make this 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:42.160 action film with John Hannah? And it was all point 1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:46.120 of view and suddenly, like unexpectedly we're like running around 1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:50.960 like doing like stunts, which is just not what you 1:35:51.080 --> 1:35:53.920 expected fifty but like how great is that? And it 1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:58.360 was a great sort of like consciousness shift about paradigms 1:35:58.439 --> 1:36:04.599 and what expectations. So then after that I did another 1:36:04.680 --> 1:36:08.439 action film with Tim Roth, which is another amazing actor, 1:36:08.840 --> 1:36:12.559 directed by this woman, and this is out now, so 1:36:12.600 --> 1:36:17.400 I guess it's relevant that we discussed this seven seven Snipers. 1:36:18.439 --> 1:36:21.840 So that was a fun experience. And again, it's great 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:25.519 to be able to work in Australia. I've been spending 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:27.919 quite a bit of time here because it's just personal 1:36:28.000 --> 1:36:30.519 things and to be able to kind of work with 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:33.400 people from other places as well, that that's kind of 1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:35.400 where you want to sit, where you can sort of 1:36:35.400 --> 1:36:37.559 bring things where things are from the rest of the 1:36:37.560 --> 1:36:41.880 world come to Australia and I'll plug something else. 1:36:42.040 --> 1:36:45.960 Well, well, you have a few upcoming on IMDb, so. 1:36:46.720 --> 1:36:50.559 Okay, what else about another thing? Okay, this is interesting too. 1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:54.479 So I've been sort of lucky enough over the years 1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:58.640 to work with women directors. And actually, when I just 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:03.519 looked at the thing for Swimming with Sharks that somebody 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:09.360 Mitchell women directed this episode. We're not cousins. That's just 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:15.240 a coincidence. But it's interesting to work with whom because 1:37:15.240 --> 1:37:20.400 I think they bring, especially in this chapter of Life 1:37:21.040 --> 1:37:24.280 My Life, they bring a perspective where they represent women 1:37:24.320 --> 1:37:27.720 in a very authentic way without trying to kind of 1:37:28.360 --> 1:37:30.880 what I might have experienced earlier in my career was 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:34.680 more like, you know, she's like the glamorous, so you know, 1:37:34.720 --> 1:37:37.040 she's this thing. Part of it is you've got to 1:37:37.080 --> 1:37:42.719 present a physical image, whereas I think women aren't really 1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:44.720 concerned with that as much as they are with the 1:37:44.840 --> 1:37:49.439 energy of the character. And and I think what we 1:37:49.560 --> 1:37:53.760 are creating, I guess, you know, culturally, you know our 1:37:53.840 --> 1:37:56.080 space in the world. And I think women directors are 1:37:56.160 --> 1:38:00.400 very aware of what we're putting in and what we're 1:38:00.400 --> 1:38:03.760 offering to younger women to kind of see as potential features, 1:38:03.800 --> 1:38:07.720 and you know, how we're allowed to be. So I 1:38:07.760 --> 1:38:10.519 think that it's been interesting to be in those kinds 1:38:10.560 --> 1:38:14.439 of dialogues with female directors. So that was fun with 1:38:14.560 --> 1:38:20.360 Sandra on Seven Snipers. And then this other project, which 1:38:20.400 --> 1:38:25.719 is interesting, directed by a woman who hasn't directed before ever, 1:38:26.320 --> 1:38:30.599 who had had this vision to make this film for 1:38:30.840 --> 1:38:35.920 I don't know, twenty years, and somehow I got cast 1:38:35.960 --> 1:38:40.680 in it in her Like Dream project, And it's a 1:38:40.720 --> 1:38:46.120 movie about this female CEO who inherits this large company 1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:49.519 that she's been working in for many years and has 1:38:49.560 --> 1:38:53.799 this sort of this health drama, but more in reality 1:38:53.840 --> 1:38:59.000 it's more like a psychic drama. And she disengages from 1:38:59.040 --> 1:39:03.599 this whole sense of identity and life purpose to kind 1:39:03.680 --> 1:39:07.559 of let it go and get into living in the 1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:10.160 forest and growing a garden. 1:39:11.600 --> 1:39:12.040 What is this? 1:39:12.439 --> 1:39:16.080 So this movie it's called The Gardener, okay, and it's 1:39:16.240 --> 1:39:19.080 very it's you know, having grown up in a sort 1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:21.599 of spiritual environment, it was really kind of an easy 1:39:21.640 --> 1:39:24.240 fit for me to kind of sit with this movie 1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:28.760 because it sort of explores all these different aspects of 1:39:28.840 --> 1:39:33.040 spirituality bit grounding it in the forest and in just 1:39:33.160 --> 1:39:37.759 getting your hands dirty and growing things. And it felt 1:39:37.800 --> 1:39:41.400 like it was this Dabney's kind of mission to put 1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:44.880 this movie out. And she's done and is still in 1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:49.000 this process of distributing it independently. So there's been these 1:39:49.080 --> 1:39:53.880 kind of group screenings in different parts of America and 1:39:53.920 --> 1:39:57.280 then like a I'm sure I'm watching it sort of 1:39:57.360 --> 1:40:00.759 unfold how it's going to play out. Eventually it stream 1:40:01.520 --> 1:40:05.240 but she's trying to take ownership of the process of 1:40:05.280 --> 1:40:08.880 it and how it's distributed, so instead of having the 1:40:08.920 --> 1:40:13.800 middleman involved, it'll be she'll own the profit of it. 1:40:13.840 --> 1:40:14.639 Does that make sense? 1:40:14.720 --> 1:40:17.040 Yeah, I'm looking up if it's in any theaters in 1:40:17.080 --> 1:40:19.840 New York right now. You're really genre bending. If someone 1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:22.240 offered you an SVU style job where you would be 1:40:22.960 --> 1:40:25.400 a detective for twenty seven years, do you think you'd 1:40:25.439 --> 1:40:25.800 say yes? 1:40:28.160 --> 1:40:30.360 You know, I thought about that on that set because 1:40:30.400 --> 1:40:34.439 I was like, Wow, how does she do it? You know, 1:40:35.160 --> 1:40:38.559 if I could do it like her? Yes, yeah, I 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:40.400 think it takes it, ye know, but you'd have to 1:40:40.400 --> 1:40:43.040 have her personality. Yeah, I don't know if it would 1:40:43.040 --> 1:40:46.400 suit me, I'd probably be dead. But the way she's 1:40:46.600 --> 1:40:50.880 crafted the whole thing, she's really made it hers and 1:40:51.280 --> 1:40:54.479 she's the captain of the ship. So as much as 1:40:54.520 --> 1:40:58.840 there's you know, so many people demanding so much, I 1:40:58.840 --> 1:41:01.680 think she's made it work for her. And she's you know, 1:41:02.000 --> 1:41:05.519 in an amazing city. She's got a great personal life, 1:41:05.920 --> 1:41:11.320 and she's it's sort of a mission project too, you know, 1:41:11.400 --> 1:41:13.960 the subject is she's going. 1:41:13.720 --> 1:41:15.960 Like a legislature passed with this job. 1:41:16.400 --> 1:41:20.320 Yeah, really like turned it into something. It's quite phenomenal. 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:22.600 You know, if she was in England, she'd be like 1:41:22.840 --> 1:41:26.439 Dame you know, Dame. 1:41:26.400 --> 1:41:33.719 Rishka for sure. Oh my gosh, she was great. 1:41:34.200 --> 1:41:37.680 She was great. I love interesting, cool career. I just 1:41:37.760 --> 1:41:39.679 love people that work like our job is so cool. 1:41:39.840 --> 1:41:42.280 Like I love just scrolling through an IMDb and going 1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:45.200 look at that, Yeah, decades in the bus and she's 1:41:45.240 --> 1:41:48.240 worked with so many people, and she's she's bouncing from 1:41:48.400 --> 1:41:49.200 La to Melbourne. 1:41:49.360 --> 1:41:50.639 I like it. It's great. 1:41:50.960 --> 1:41:54.040 And I mean to come with not only Hollywood stories, 1:41:54.040 --> 1:41:55.759 but like cold Hollywood stories. 1:41:55.880 --> 1:41:57.920 Was kind of a thrill to possibly be at an 1:41:57.920 --> 1:42:01.839 event with Keith Ranieri. I mean, she's been so close 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:04.680 to very very famous mediocrity. 1:42:04.720 --> 1:42:07.519 It's really she was cool. The episode's cool. 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:09.640 I love that we talked to two actresses that have 1:42:09.680 --> 1:42:11.320 been in front of those colorful bottles. 1:42:11.720 --> 1:42:14.040 Oh my gosh, we love a colorful bottle. 1:42:14.720 --> 1:42:16.880 I also love when they're like at the video game convention, 1:42:16.960 --> 1:42:19.400 all the conventions, and it is like an episode that 1:42:20.920 --> 1:42:24.080 just shows us that s you can continuously surprise us 1:42:25.280 --> 1:42:28.519 and take us on journeys throughout episodes constantly like you 1:42:28.520 --> 1:42:31.920 don't know where the episode's going. It's just like yeah, yeah, 1:42:31.960 --> 1:42:33.920 and that she was still a dumb bitch at the end. 1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:34.320 You know what I mean? 1:42:36.000 --> 1:42:38.080 Can I see that? Like I just love when people 1:42:38.120 --> 1:42:41.040 don't learn anything, Like I really love that. I love 1:42:41.040 --> 1:42:43.040 when people don't learn a lesson. Yeah's kind of cool. 1:42:43.479 --> 1:42:46.320 I mean I think she learned No, I didn't want 1:42:46.360 --> 1:42:49.640 her to get raped, and that like a lot of 1:42:49.680 --> 1:42:52.880 this came from like not that anyone deserves this behavior, 1:42:52.960 --> 1:42:56.200 but like that her best friend from childhood like didn't 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:58.800 defend her and was complicit in this takedown of her 1:42:59.040 --> 1:43:02.519 because she's been so horrible to her whole life, starting 1:43:02.560 --> 1:43:06.760 from camp, you know. Like, but also, girl, get like 1:43:06.840 --> 1:43:09.440 some self esteem? Why do you keep hanging out with them? Yes? 1:43:09.960 --> 1:43:12.519 Yes, you know what I mean, Like, don't hang out 1:43:12.560 --> 1:43:15.040 with people that don't treat you nicely. Yeah, that's like 1:43:15.160 --> 1:43:16.720 kind of a lesson, but that's hard to learn, you know. 1:43:16.720 --> 1:43:18.679 We all come from I like when we're also watching 1:43:18.680 --> 1:43:20.600 an episode like this and we're like, we've talked to 1:43:20.600 --> 1:43:23.400 Samantha Mathis, We've talked to Mousam, Like we've really got 1:43:23.479 --> 1:43:25.599 we've really knocked everybody out on this episode. 1:43:26.520 --> 1:43:28.559 Yeah, is this the most? 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:31.439 Is this the episode where we've talked to the most 1:43:31.439 --> 1:43:35.200 people in one episode? Because we've also talked to Amanda Dollins, 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:36.599 Thank you very much, Yes, we have. 1:43:37.320 --> 1:43:39.080 I don't know we have to do that, Like figure 1:43:39.080 --> 1:43:41.639 out what's our most guests heavy because what was the. 1:43:41.600 --> 1:43:44.519 One we just do do? We have to figure it out. 1:43:44.880 --> 1:43:47.400 I can't believe I'm not hearing these like massive cracks 1:43:47.439 --> 1:43:50.040 of thunder and lightning, like they're like when you because 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:51.960 it's gonna rain here too. Honestly, I hope my whole 1:43:52.160 --> 1:43:55.200 day gets canceled. I'm not sleeping, my voice is gone. 1:43:56.600 --> 1:43:58.320 I went to the doctor. I'm gonna go to any NT. 1:43:58.600 --> 1:43:59.000 I don't know. 1:43:59.200 --> 1:44:01.880 I don't know. And you've already stopped the bad I 1:44:01.880 --> 1:44:04.880 have not smoked weed now in weeks. Yeah, and while 1:44:04.880 --> 1:44:06.639 you're all hearing this, I still have it. And people 1:44:06.680 --> 1:44:09.120 are like, but you're doing edibles, Like, oh, honestly, I haven't. 1:44:10.040 --> 1:44:14.719 I'm not really interested. I'm not. I'm on zudafed behind 1:44:14.760 --> 1:44:15.160 the counter. 1:44:16.800 --> 1:44:19.640 I'm taking zudafed since my ears are clogged because of 1:44:19.680 --> 1:44:20.599 my sore throat. 1:44:20.920 --> 1:44:21.759 Oh my god. 1:44:21.960 --> 1:44:26.040 Yeah, you're just maybe you're just like cleansing from like 1:44:26.160 --> 1:44:26.519 the weed. 1:44:26.960 --> 1:44:30.360 Oh but I did get a supportive DM from a listener, going, 1:44:30.600 --> 1:44:32.719 everyone drinks on a moxicillin, You're fine. 1:44:33.000 --> 1:44:34.880 I go, hell, yeah, I tell people that all the time. 1:44:35.200 --> 1:44:37.080 I go off. You can drink. 1:44:37.600 --> 1:44:39.600 I as your mom said that. I was told, you 1:44:39.640 --> 1:44:42.960 can drink on antibiotics. It just might make them a 1:44:43.000 --> 1:44:45.080 little bit less effective, but it's not going to like 1:44:45.200 --> 1:44:45.600 hurt you. 1:44:46.840 --> 1:44:49.240 I heard the opposite. I heard your body is just 1:44:49.280 --> 1:44:51.400 so weak and then your liver will fail. But I 1:44:51.439 --> 1:44:52.400 guess it's worth it to me. 1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:54.679 I don't know about a moxicillin that's like a kid 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:58.400 like your liver's like giving out. 1:44:59.040 --> 1:45:01.679 But you know, I guess we have to talk about 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:04.280 how much drinking. And it's like I just make such 1:45:04.360 --> 1:45:06.439 bad decisions. It's like, just stay home one more day, 1:45:06.479 --> 1:45:08.200 like go home after the play. You don't have to 1:45:08.240 --> 1:45:10.519 stay out till one thirty. But like, I don't know, 1:45:10.720 --> 1:45:12.839 I don't know. I only live one life. 1:45:13.160 --> 1:45:17.479 Yeah, I get, yes, summer you're in you can do 1:45:17.520 --> 1:45:20.280 a little winter reset, but it's summer and then fall 1:45:20.360 --> 1:45:21.759 in New York last three minutes. 1:45:21.800 --> 1:45:22.840 You have to enjoy that too. 1:45:23.040 --> 1:45:25.960 So the doctor today was like, so we're still five 1:45:26.040 --> 1:45:29.360 to ten drinks a day? I go, sure, a day, 1:45:30.240 --> 1:45:32.479 I mean a week. Obviously you told them a day 1:45:32.520 --> 1:45:35.920 and they were like that you leave, But I had 1:45:35.960 --> 1:45:38.599 like five beers yesterday. Well that's the thing we're all 1:45:38.680 --> 1:45:41.040 lying to the doctor about how much we're drinking. 1:45:41.400 --> 1:45:44.240 We all we are. I'm sorry, Casey's laughing at me 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:46.840 because he knows one of my antibiotics. But I had. 1:45:46.880 --> 1:45:49.960 I had stella for dinner at my backgammon meet up. No, 1:45:50.040 --> 1:45:50.479 I told her. 1:45:50.520 --> 1:45:53.880 I go, I've been I go, I've been partaking in summertime. 1:45:54.000 --> 1:45:56.439 But we could leave it there. But yeah, no, okay. 1:45:57.479 --> 1:45:59.720 A week is also like what if you just go 1:45:59.760 --> 1:46:02.040 out twice a week and have four drinks. 1:46:02.160 --> 1:46:05.040 That's eight drinks and you only went out twice. I know. 1:46:05.080 --> 1:46:08.160 Oh at Drussian Samovar I had, they have like a 1:46:08.160 --> 1:46:09.080 borsch Martini. 1:46:09.120 --> 1:46:11.040 It's like a beat Martini. Oh Borstini. 1:46:12.000 --> 1:46:12.880 Oh interesting, I. 1:46:12.840 --> 1:46:13.840 Got it, I got it. 1:46:14.200 --> 1:46:17.599 I'm just saying I think it's a slippery slope and back. 1:46:17.680 --> 1:46:19.240 I mean, I remember one time in New York. I 1:46:19.280 --> 1:46:21.280 literally like, turn to someone, I go, I think I've 1:46:21.280 --> 1:46:23.320 been drinking for sixteen days straight. I have to stop, 1:46:23.400 --> 1:46:26.439 Like I just you can get caught up in that. 1:46:26.720 --> 1:46:29.840 But I do think that the guidelines are. My doctor 1:46:29.880 --> 1:46:31.920 told me I shouldn't be having more than one drink 1:46:31.920 --> 1:46:32.439 at a sitting. 1:46:33.280 --> 1:46:37.360 I was like, what am I doctor? I can't have two? Yeah, 1:46:37.400 --> 1:46:39.880 they're just trying to help you live longer, I stronger. 1:46:40.520 --> 1:46:43.240 They're doing their jobs, but it just doesn't feel. 1:46:43.720 --> 1:46:46.800 And I bet they're lying. They're all smoking cigarettes. I know. 1:46:49.080 --> 1:46:51.960 Every doctor. No, they're eating. Anytime I see someone eating 1:46:51.960 --> 1:46:53.880 an apple in the wild, I go, but that's a doctor. 1:46:57.080 --> 1:47:01.439 Somebody living an apple a day. Trope loud, I do. 1:47:01.439 --> 1:47:03.240 Have apples in the You know, I'm trying to up 1:47:03.240 --> 1:47:04.240 my fiber. 1:47:04.479 --> 1:47:08.120 But listen, my doctor. This is the second appointment I've 1:47:08.160 --> 1:47:09.760 had with her where she is pissed I won't let 1:47:09.800 --> 1:47:14.160 her do AI and she goes. She goes, well, it'll 1:47:14.200 --> 1:47:16.120 just be easier for me. I go, I'm morally against it. 1:47:16.160 --> 1:47:16.559 She goes, why. 1:47:16.560 --> 1:47:18.360 I go because the idea of it is theft in 1:47:18.439 --> 1:47:21.439 and of itself, and it's not accurate and I don't 1:47:21.520 --> 1:47:23.639 like it. And she goes, well, it's gonna take longer, 1:47:23.680 --> 1:47:25.360 I'm gonna have to type and I can't really check 1:47:25.400 --> 1:47:27.600 you out. At the same time, she's like it, just 1:47:27.640 --> 1:47:29.879 puts it in and then deletes immediately. 1:47:29.920 --> 1:47:33.000 I go, I don't want it, Like, don't ask me 1:47:33.080 --> 1:47:33.599 yes or name. 1:47:33.680 --> 1:47:37.240 It's not gonna listen and you're not gonna guilt me bitch, 1:47:37.320 --> 1:47:40.880 are you kidding? And immediately what is she talking about? 1:47:40.880 --> 1:47:44.519 Doesn't it? I don't think it's accurate. I don't trust it. 1:47:44.560 --> 1:47:46.599 I don't trust the people that own it. I don't 1:47:46.640 --> 1:47:50.200 trust any of it. And it is unethical to begin with, 1:47:50.479 --> 1:47:53.559 so fucking type, bitch, I don't know. Put more time 1:47:53.600 --> 1:47:56.000 in between your appointments if you're gonna run late for typing, 1:47:56.280 --> 1:47:57.599 Like how long have you had AI? 1:47:57.800 --> 1:47:58.320 Six months? 1:47:58.360 --> 1:48:00.200 And all of a sudden you can't type if you've 1:48:00.200 --> 1:48:04.000 been doing for twenty five years. Yeah, you've been typing. Yeah, 1:48:04.120 --> 1:48:07.439 keep typing. But I wonder if I'm the only person 1:48:07.479 --> 1:48:09.360 who declines it the way she treats me. 1:48:10.200 --> 1:48:10.479 I don't. 1:48:10.560 --> 1:48:14.599 Yeah, I wonder. I wonder some of our medical people, 1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:18.600 let us know. Are people declining your AI options? 1:48:19.200 --> 1:48:19.840 Let us know? 1:48:20.479 --> 1:48:25.519 But damn this doctor, you're gonna hit her next time? 1:48:25.560 --> 1:48:28.559 She better stop. I'm not I just I'm not budging. 1:48:28.720 --> 1:48:30.680 So it's like, yeah, I'll go to a different I 1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:33.280 like and write it out in the chart. Write it 1:48:33.280 --> 1:48:33.680 out in the chart. 1:48:33.680 --> 1:48:35.120 If you don't want to have this argument every time, 1:48:35.120 --> 1:48:37.240 put it note in the chart. This CLIs patient does 1:48:37.240 --> 1:48:38.479 not like the AI thing. 1:48:38.720 --> 1:48:39.479 Don't ask. 1:48:41.200 --> 1:48:44.599 Okay, let's get into what would Sister Peg do. This 1:48:44.640 --> 1:48:48.360 is our weekly segment where we direct you usually towards 1:48:48.840 --> 1:48:52.160 a book, an article, an organization, something to give you 1:48:52.200 --> 1:48:56.920 more info about today's episode. But this episode, I'm going 1:48:56.960 --> 1:49:00.519 to point you to our teacher wish lists that we 1:49:00.680 --> 1:49:02.240 promote on our Instagram. 1:49:02.760 --> 1:49:04.800 It is getting to be the end of it is. 1:49:04.840 --> 1:49:07.559 It's the end of July and it's getting to be 1:49:07.600 --> 1:49:11.639 back to school season, and teachers are constantly dipping into 1:49:11.680 --> 1:49:14.439 their own pockets to provide for their classrooms. We have 1:49:14.520 --> 1:49:17.960 a ton of educators that listen to our show, so 1:49:18.320 --> 1:49:21.320 in from like late July to mid August or mid 1:49:21.320 --> 1:49:24.800 to late August, I usually share on that's messed up, 1:49:25.439 --> 1:49:27.240 teach your wish lists, and then if you have a 1:49:27.240 --> 1:49:30.000 couple of extra bucks, if you could just scroll through 1:49:30.040 --> 1:49:32.799 and donate to some of the wishlests, it's nice, awesome. 1:49:33.000 --> 1:49:33.640 Yeah. 1:49:33.800 --> 1:49:35.000 So I'm going. 1:49:34.760 --> 1:49:38.000 There's going to be a teacher's highlight on our Instagram 1:49:38.040 --> 1:49:41.599 page that is going to have all of the wish 1:49:41.640 --> 1:49:44.960 lists saved up there and you can scroll through see 1:49:44.960 --> 1:49:48.520 who has a lot of stuff missing or left to 1:49:47.920 --> 1:49:52.479 be fulfilled, And it also will explain to you teachers, 1:49:52.800 --> 1:49:55.760 how exactly we need you to post them so that 1:49:56.120 --> 1:49:56.920 we can share them. 1:49:57.280 --> 1:50:00.960 So go over to our instagram that's messed up pod. 1:50:01.000 --> 1:50:04.000 Just follow it for fun, but also follow it to 1:50:04.200 --> 1:50:06.360 get these future wish lists and that's where they will be. 1:50:06.720 --> 1:50:08.439 Yeah. I love that we do that every year. The 1:50:08.479 --> 1:50:09.479 teachers seem happy. 1:50:09.520 --> 1:50:12.679 It's exciting and you all get involved, and I'm really grateful. Yeah, 1:50:12.720 --> 1:50:15.320 you're good people, and I like that Tommy's are a 1:50:15.720 --> 1:50:16.679 nation of edgua. 1:50:16.640 --> 1:50:19.160 Oh my god, Kira, I have a fucking shirt. I 1:50:19.200 --> 1:50:21.000 have to give hold the hold the phone. 1:50:21.040 --> 1:50:26.000 Okay, So you know, you know the Miranda shirts we 1:50:26.080 --> 1:50:28.640 got like this, the Dory shirt that was gifted to me. 1:50:28.960 --> 1:50:32.439 Huh so the girl who saw me in Minneapolis, I 1:50:32.479 --> 1:50:33.519 have one for you as well. 1:50:33.960 --> 1:50:38.240 Ooh, oh my god. Wait what does it say under 1:50:38.240 --> 1:50:41.400 stabler Tommy? But I saw that under Marishka. 1:50:41.439 --> 1:50:43.120 I didn't know if it said it under it both say, 1:50:43.200 --> 1:50:47.080 they both say Tommy, okay, love it say it's it's 1:50:47.080 --> 1:50:50.880 a tank top and on each boob it's it looks 1:50:50.880 --> 1:50:51.559 like season one. 1:50:51.600 --> 1:50:55.080 It's season one, Marishka and maybe season one Maloney as well, 1:50:55.120 --> 1:50:57.440 and it says Tommy underneath love it gorgeous. 1:50:57.640 --> 1:50:59.200 I think it says tommy mommy. 1:50:59.360 --> 1:51:02.120 Oh my god, God, I didn't even know that it 1:51:02.120 --> 1:51:09.120 says tommy mommy. It says tommy mommy. Even better. Good 1:51:09.160 --> 1:51:13.840 catch you like good catch eagle ie egle eye. All right, 1:51:14.320 --> 1:51:17.720 I'm excited to get mine. Okay, yeah, so go yeah. 1:51:17.800 --> 1:51:19.759 Check out the wish lists when you get a chance. 1:51:20.280 --> 1:51:24.200 Oh gosh, listen, guys. 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