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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: Let's now continue with part two of our conversation with

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Speaker 1: Tianni Shoemaker Clyde from Little Miracles. Right after these brief

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Speaker 1: messages from our general sponsors, we returned asking Tianni what's

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Speaker 1: the payoff for all of her effort with Little Miracles.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, you know, when I went into it, I was

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Speaker 2: really hoping the families were going to be my focus.

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Speaker 2: Like this Julie Warner, I really hope this makes a

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Speaker 2: difference for her family and that she really likes her

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Speaker 2: house and her cute stuff we got. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is nice stuff, you know, and these kids feel special

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Speaker 2: because people took time to learn about them and made

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Speaker 2: Really there's talented people, and a lot of people know

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Speaker 2: how to do stuff, and I would paint murals and

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Speaker 2: do all kinds of cool things and get experiences for

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Speaker 2: the family to look forward to later we'd have this

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Speaker 2: and I thought, Wow, that's that's going to be amazing

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Speaker 2: to help families. But what I realized very quickly was

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Speaker 2: the real people's lives that were changed through this were

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Speaker 2: the volunteers.

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Speaker 1: So I have said a thousand times that giving is

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Speaker 1: so much more food for the soul, for the giver

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Speaker 1: than the receiver. And it is such and it is

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Speaker 1: imperative to me that over the course of the life

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Speaker 1: of our podcast here and as we gain more and

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Speaker 1: more listeners and people hear us that they understand that

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Speaker 1: the payoff is you get a thousand times someone out

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Speaker 1: of it, then you put into it.

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Speaker 2: Oh and you hear that, you hear that that's a cliche.

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Speaker 1: It is cliche. I guess that was just cliche's crap.

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Speaker 1: So true, No, but.

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Speaker 2: You get it. But I thought I knew that, but

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Speaker 2: until I experienced it, and I and I watched what

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Speaker 2: was happening to people, and I heard them tell me things, Hey,

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Speaker 2: this gave me purpose. I didn't know about this, but

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Speaker 2: it saved my life.

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Speaker 1: So when you were walking through the lobby of the

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Speaker 1: Things to Do place, you picked up a pamphlet and

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Speaker 1: you said, oh, here's something we can do. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was just right there. It was all spelled out

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Speaker 1: there were the rules. And I mean, obviously I'm being facetious,

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Speaker 1: but the point is, so many people say to me, Bill,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to help, but I don't know how well

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Speaker 1: I want to be. I'm just a normal guy or

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Speaker 1: nice for people, and I don't know how. And they're

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Speaker 1: looking for a pamphlet in the lobby that tells them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why that song so powerful, because there's

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Speaker 2: a line in there where David Archiletta says, and you

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Speaker 2: will know how to let it ring out, and people

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Speaker 2: around you will start to wake up too. And it's

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Speaker 2: so powerful because I felt that I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: that song is so powerful because you know, how do

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Speaker 2: I not book that camera, I'd probably still be talking

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Speaker 2: about doing it someday, pois.

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Speaker 1: Down to this. You saw and felt the need, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't. I mean, most of the time

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Speaker 2: I thought, what am I doing? I'm not qualified for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: Qualifications are you supposed to I mean there, I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's not. I just, you know, you think

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Speaker 2: I should know more about how nonprofits work? Is this

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say it again. Eighteen twenty seven volunteers,

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Speaker 1: four families a year served for nine straight years from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, nor a dime of money to go hof of. Really,

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Speaker 1: Just a normal person doing something good for their community.

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Speaker 1: And the premise that started this entire podcast is that

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Speaker 1: I don't think that our society's problems will ever be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what, We're all in this together.

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Speaker 2: And that's the powerful part about this too, is community.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are longing to be a part

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, what did that first mom that you

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Speaker 1: what we call them projects? What do you call these things?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We call them little miracle projects?

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Speaker 2: Guess what she has probably been? She's been to almost

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Speaker 1: Many of your volunteers have been once served? Well, I

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Speaker 2: Almost almost every family at some point. We don't always

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Speaker 2: it's one more thing you it's part of the.

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Speaker 2: They all most of our army is now the community

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Speaker 2: Was he committed suicide, he'd had some very traumatic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but very loving wife and family and just had

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Speaker 1: It's happening really is a serious little miracle.

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Speaker 1: So the mom and the kids are off on their

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Speaker 1: you're saying that there's seventy to one hundred people, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if I'm you know, Fred nextdoor neighbor

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Speaker 1: So you're not what happens in the neighbors.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's actually such a cool part of this whole

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Speaker 2: So we learned real quick. And we have all these

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Speaker 2: We're very organized about what we have, you know, for volunteers.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. I see her out she seems

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Speaker 1: my question of whether she's proud of what they've accomplished.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm okay if I don't, because I

433
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, I can take my kids to do things,

434
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: you know, vacation. Now I'm enjoying my job. This is

435
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: bringing me a lot of fulfillment.

436
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: No longer need.

437
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't in a place I was before. What

438
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: I needed, right, I get it is someone to rescue me.

439
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: I didn't need to be rested.

440
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: Isn't an interesting one. We no longer need what happens. Yeah,

441
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: we're not nearly as desperate, not as.

442
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: Desperate, and and it's like, if there's someone who's going

443
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: to add to my life that I feel is already great,

444
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: then bring it on. If not, it's okay. So yeah,

445
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 2: it was just a project one day. A lot of

446
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: people come and go in these things, and you know,

447
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 2: you meet a lot of people. But there was this

448
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: one particular January.

449
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: Black, a little Miracles project.

450
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: Add a little Miracle project.

451
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: And he was he was he was playing the drums. No, no,

452
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: he was, he was the he was not the DJ painter.

453
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: No, he actually did paint though, So maybe that's how you.

454
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: Got used to I have no idea. Was a roofer.

455
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, he used to paint used So he

456
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: had heard about this through a friend and he had

457
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: two teenage boys that he was trying. He'd been divorced

458
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: for quite a while, and he said, I'd heard about

459
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: this from my friend, and I thought, well, I used

460
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: to do painting for a living, so my boys know

461
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: how to do it. This would be good for us.

462
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: So he brought his sons.

463
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: He brought his teenage sons.

464
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: Okay, now that's pretty awesome.

465
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: That got my attention. Well he's very handsome too, so

466
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 2: I was like who. I had to make sure it

467
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: wasn't one of my friend's boyfriends or someone I got.

468
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: I was asking everybody in the morning. Who's this Joe?

469
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: What's his name? He's cute? Is this somebody's not? Okay? No,

470
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: he's all right, good good. And I had to leave

471
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: for a little bit in that project. I remember thinking

472
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: he'll probably be gone, because the cute guys that would

473
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: pop in sometimes they got that apparently there was you know,

474
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: I had a lot of cute single mom friends, and

475
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: there would be these guys that would show up sometimes

476
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: and they didn't know how to work, or the minute

477
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: you put him to work, they were out, you know.

478
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: So we would be like, are they just here for

479
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: a picture? Are they really gonna work?

480
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: We'll be right back now. Let's return to Tianni on

481
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: this male volunteer that piqued her interest.

482
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: So when I got back and he was still there

483
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: and it was a blizzard that day, I really was like,

484
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: I gotta go talk to I got to see who

485
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: this is, you know, and I was just kind of

486
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: eavesdropping and they were just making jokes with each other.

487
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: I just could you know you've been a single mom

488
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: this long. I mean, people can fake anything online, but

489
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty hard to fake it when you're in

490
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: a blizzard doing service all day with your teenage sons.

491
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: I could tell this is a legit, good, good guy

492
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: and these are cool kids and they respect him. And

493
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean I started the thing and I couldn't get

494
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 2: my teenage boys there very much, you know, so this

495
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: was all day. So I just started kind of trying

496
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: to talk to him. Towards the end of that project

497
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: a little bit. I just was like, Wow, where are

498
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: you guys from? And now, well, the funny thing he

499
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: came to tell me by before the party, he said,

500
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: and people make fun of me, but I'm chaotic. I

501
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: was looking for something in my car and he touched

502
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: my left arm and I kind of just got really calm,

503
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: and he goes, hey, I just wanted to say thank you.

504
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: This was great. And I'm like, why are you leaving?

505
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: The family's just coming back the party, you know. He's like,

506
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: oh no, we just wanted to We just were here

507
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: for that. He's kind of quiet my manner, not okay

508
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: crazy like me.

509
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: And he just left.

510
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: Someone had tagged him on Facebook in a picture and

511
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: that's how I found him. And I messaged him later

512
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: that night and just say, hey, thank you so much

513
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: for coming. And that was great, and we started talking,

514
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: you know, and now and now here we are are.

515
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: He's on every Little Miracles project with you. Yeah, yeah,

516
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: he's crazy.

517
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: He's the quiet guy in the back. He doesn't like.

518
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: We're very different. I didn't think his personality would even

519
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: work with like. He's he's more of an introvert, kind

520
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: of the quiet guy. But he knows how to do stuff,

521
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: and he's a hard worker and he says, just give.

522
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: Me a job, and he well, Unfortunately, we can't promise

523
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: that everybody that does get out of their comfort zone

524
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: and go do something will find their spouse right.

525
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: Actually, there's been a couple, though I'm not the only one.

526
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: It's been kind of cool.

527
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: It's a cool to me.

528
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: You know, who would have known? I never would have.

529
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: It's these things that are little Miracles mixers.

530
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: We should start that. We probably have even better attended.

531
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: That is funny, pretty amazing that you know, you got

532
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: a husband out of Little Miracle deals too. But what's

533
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: his name? What's his name is? Joe? Joe Clay, Joe

534
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: so understanding. Joe swung and missed.

535
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: At well, I guess you could call it a miss.

536
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't swing very often on those platforms.

537
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the dating app?

538
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, when Joe swung and missed, he actually had reached

539
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: out to you one time before.

540
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the ironic thing. I didn't realize it at

541
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: the time, but I had been on. A friend talked

542
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: to me into trying the apps out again. I tried

543
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: him before, just like a dating app. It was like

544
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: a Tender. You probably heard a Tender bumble. You know,

545
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: your swipe really really well, good for you. When we

546
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: would argue sometimes I would say to him, do you

547
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: really want to get back on Tender? I don't think so.

548
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: I guess not a good life.

549
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so Tender is a dating app. It's a dating

550
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: He reached out to you on this thing. Well, this

551
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: is how and you basically just missed him this Joe

552
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: got dismissed.

553
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: Well, he actually didn't, because this is how these dating

554
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: apps work. A lot of depth goes into these. You

555
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: think they're cute, you swipe this way. If you don't,

556
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: you swipe the other. So we both thought each other

557
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: is cute, we swiped on each other. We matched. Yeah,

558
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: you both think you're cute. Message for a minute, and

559
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: it seemed nice. I just nothing ever came of it.

560
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: I just I think I got off the app pretty

561
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: quick after that. I just lost.

562
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: So the point is you meet this guy, end up

563
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: marrying them, and lo and behold, you'd actually quote cyber

564
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: matched at one point before that.

565
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah, but I never I never would have nothing

566
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: would have ever materialized from that. What What what happened

567
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: was I got to see who he really was on a.

568
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Day, Yeah, which is match in and of itself is

569
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: the problem with these apps exactly, which is for a

570
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: whole other show.

571
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: And that's why I didn't have time, because you have

572
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: to take a lot of time before you see that.

573
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: That point is here, you met this dude at a

574
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: little miracle, you got married. He's on every little miracle,

575
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: you finally got that family and the person you were

576
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: looking for when you weren't looking for it. And the

577
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: irony of it is he'd actually and you'd actually seen

578
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: each other before at one time. Crazy, that's crazy.

579
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: He has to remind me, He's like, you know, I

580
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: think we matched. I'm like, I am. I kind of

581
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: thought you because I you know, and then I went

582
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: back and sure enough, there it is. Yeah. Kind of crazy,

583
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: kind of crazy.

584
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I am beyond inspired by by single moms one because

585
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: my mother was one, and I know how hard it is,

586
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: but I'm beyond inspired by your heart and you're willing

587
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: to serve and that you even without a lot of

588
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: with no money and no backing and no sponsors, she's

589
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: just saw a need and filled it. And that's really

590
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: what this is all about, is trying to motivate and

591
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: and and and show stories that people listening to us

592
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: really can if they'll just say I want to help,

593
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: they can find a way to help in their communities

594
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: and change lives and change their own life in doing it.

595
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: And you're an inspiration because you're one of those people.

596
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: And I am just so so proud to have met

597
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: you and wish you the very very best. And I

598
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: assume we're going to keep going right.

599
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're we're hooked now.

600
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: All right, Well, so here's here's the deal. We all

601
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: the people involved in an army of normal folks. Part

602
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: of it is to pass along knowledge, whatever knowledge we have.

603
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: And so I'm reachable. Nobody wants to talk to out,

604
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: but he's reachable. And then how if people, if someone's

605
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: listened to it says I really want to do that

606
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: in my town of Kansas City or Topeka or Birmingham

607
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: or wherever can they reach you and and get ideas

608
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: from you and how to reach out to you.

609
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that you asked that because right before

610
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: the pandemic we had put together a little kind of

611
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: a little blueprint. So little Miracles Utah dot org.

612
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Little say that again.

613
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: Little Miracles Utah dot org.

614
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: Little Miracles Utah dot org, and that will.

615
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: Go to your website and there's contact information on there.

616
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: I think there is a link that says for more

617
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: information on how to do this in your town. I

618
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: can't go out there and show you, but we've got

619
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 2: as best of a blueprint.

620
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: That how we do ask questions and all that.

621
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, people have called me. There's a bunch of

622
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: us on the board. We love to talk about it.

623
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: We know what has done for us. So there's a

624
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: lot of great people that are so willing to talk.

625
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: And it's you know what, it doesn't have to look

626
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: a certain way every that's all our projects are a

627
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: little different, you know, and everyone has a different gift,

628
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: but everyone has something. And you know what, I've watched

629
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: sixty year old men find their gift doing this on

630
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: a Saturday didn't know before, but they found it. You

631
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: just just where you have a genuine desire, just put

632
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: it out there and maybe another idea of what you

633
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: can do will come up while we're chatting. We're happy

634
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: to talk to people, give them ideas, tell them what

635
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: we did and whether they do something like this in

636
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: their town, or just get an idea of what they

637
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: can do a little different that fits their gift a

638
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: little better than awesome. That's just what we're all about

639
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: because it's made life so much more meaningful. I mean,

640
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: it just gives purpose to everything and such a feeling

641
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: of community. You know, with all the things in the

642
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: world and all the reasons people are different, no one

643
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: cares at the end of the day about all those things.

644
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: We just all want the same things out of life.

645
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: We let the media and all these people think we're

646
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: all on different teams. We're not. We're all in a

647
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: moment like that on a Saturday. It's so cool to

648
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: see people from all walks of life on the same

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Speaker 2: By the end of the day. It's like the greatest

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Speaker 2: that is indescribable. So we're yeah. I hope we can

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Speaker 1: From her mouth to your ears, a new member of

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Speaker 1: the Army of Normal Folks. Thanks for being with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me such an honor.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for joining us this week. If

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Speaker 1: Tiani or another guest has inspired you to take action

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Speaker 1: the things we can that will grow an army of

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