WEBVTT - Bucs Piecing it Together, On Hunt for Panthers | Salty Dogs 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.120 What do you call two guys that were there win? 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.120 This happened back to return at Spurlock Michael Spurlock of 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.360 the cham He's to the twenty, He's to the twenty five. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.239 Parlo thirty to the forty yard line. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.480 We could see history fifty forty come the thirty yard light. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.240 Michael run, Michael Luck. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.279 Michael run, touchdown, Tampa Bay. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:18.799 There you go in. 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.800 That shot gun sends wee receivers left. Here's the staff 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.040 of the glitzer has picked up Brady Unity. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.439 Caught ball ups. He has the record at the eleven 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.200 yard line. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.000 Mike Evins becomes the first NFL player in lead history 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.560 to record a thousand yards of more of this first 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:34.400 seventh seasons that. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:35.680 Want to throw by Brady. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.320 Congratulations Mike Evens, who can forget. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.240 Gann looking gat holds up the hats the other side. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.080 Derek Bucks thirty touchdown Tampa Bay. Derek Brooks the host 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.880 paluable player in the National Football League. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.040 There it is Dot Daggers in We're gonna win the 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.279 super Bowl. Here's the snap. Mahomes running to his right. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:55.200 Lookout he may run. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.200 Mahomes director now battle inner seven. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.040 Picked over the ins on Fox. I gotta beat the Chiefs. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.080 We're the chapters of the world that we still have. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.240 I'm inn a thirty three Togo Davin White. What a 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:07.520 great second season. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.000 If that's it for Casey, Fox are the super Bowl champs. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.840 They can't stop the plot. We call them the Salty Dogs. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:19.200 Welcome everybody to the Salty Dogs Podcast. I am Scott Smith, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.560 I am Jeff Ryan. We are the Salty Dogs. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.679 Very salty right now. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.160 Yeah, it's getting hard not to be well, six out 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.000 of seven losses. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.360 I'm frustrated because I think this is a pretty decent 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.880 football team. And I'm frustrated because the players are there 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.640 and unfortunately, whatever the reason is, don't know what it is, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.440 because if they knew, they'd fix. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:40.600 It, right. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.800 But it's the play one or two. But that's the game. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.360 The reason it's frustrating to me is that each almost 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.240 every game, I'm seeing some bit of progress. Yes, that 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.480 makes me think, Okay, this team's turning the corner. Yes, 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.480 but it doesn't add up to a win now. As 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.120 an example, in this last game, the running game worked 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.440 over one hundred yards and exactly a hunter for Rashad 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.440 six point six yards per carry, five explosive plays, which 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.160 is ten or more yards, and that's what you want. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.960 And that's by far, that's the most we've had an 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:13.119 ending game this year. You could tell by the fact 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.480 that we're averaging about twenty four point three carries per 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.839 game that even when it's not working, they are going 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.600 to stick with the plan to have a balanced offense. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.680 It makes sense. So you would think that when that offense, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:27.519 when that rushing attack then actually also works, it would 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.520 really open things up, right, And yet we still only 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.519 had about three hundred yards and twenty points. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:39.320 Yeah, and you know, I, I imagine you know, Buck 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.440 fans are frustrated and you and I right now are 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.840 a little salty about this. Is imagine Todd Bowles right 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.760 now where he where, and I understand what he says. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.480 When when you know, they practice, they see it and 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.639 then something goes wrong, that for him, that has got. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.200 To be like, Yeah, Baker said a lot of the 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.680 same things after the game he did, where he's like, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.040 we I believe in this team and we can do this, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.680 but we just keep not making the plays we're supposed 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.440 to make. Yeah, on game day. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.239 And you see the play developing, you go, oh my goodness. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.800 And then and then whatever for whatever reason in this. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.880 Game, the really bad one was the Trey Palmer. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.280 Yes, which you would think, you know, if you're going 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.600 to him, he's made some phenomenal. 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.760 He's had a couple drops, he's made some unbelievable catches. Yep. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.640 I think that's just something that he's working through as 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.160 a rookie. I think his future is very bright. But 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.440 that one hurt a lot because not only did that 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.640 was at least going to be a first down well 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.760 into their territory, and just from the way that play looked, 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.000 he might have broken it the whole way. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.480 I don't know the way I looked at that play, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.920 he'd still be running right now. So I mean no, 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.040 I thought that was a touchdown. I really did. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.480 And it was one of Baker's best throws of the game. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:53.160 I mean truly on the money and a laser and. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.200 And and so you you say, okay, well that's that's 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.000 only one. You get one interception, So you're thinking, okay, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.440 they come in bunches, and sure enough, and the guy 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.640 that you think has the most sure hands ever who 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.200 makes the big play, our buddy and Twine win Jor 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:07.960 he got hit. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.120 Ye. It's not like it was just straight drop. He 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.080 got it and then he got blown up. Right. Yeah, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.960 So I don't know if I'd have to look closely 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:14.400 to see if you. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.840 But he's so great, I just I just expect him to, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:19.800 uh to make that. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.240 I think he's one of the best. I'm three or 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.120 four players on the team. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.240 I'm sure he laid his head down on his pillow 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:26.800 and he's still feeling it. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:27.880 You know that hit? 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.679 Get that hit, and I should have held. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.640 On to it. Yeah, you always want it, even if 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.880 it's defensible, but you always want it. You wish you 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:35.360 had it back. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.560 But then they get another I n T. So they 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:39.400 come in bunches. 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.200 Yeah they did? You mean they would have they would 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.240 they did not? Well, they got two, right, they would 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.440 have had three? Correct? Wait? 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.599 What, Well didn't Carlton Davis have one? 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:53.520 Yeah? So they had one? Was that fumble? Was it? One? Takeaway? 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:57.160 That was it? Really? Yeah? And then the Colts had 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.240 two because they got one interception and then the fumble 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:00.480 with the strip sack at the end. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.560 So the first one was Carlton Davis's bick. Okay, for 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.080 some reason I was thinking that was later on do 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.120 you see what movies on my TV there dumb and dumber. No, oh, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:09.599 I don't know. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:11.080 This is a classic. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:15.360 Oh, Tommy boy, there you go. All right, thank you, pees. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:16.880 I'll give you a story. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.520 Your firearms were useless against them. I'll give you a story. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:21.560 What's his name? 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:22.560 Chris Farley? 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:28.400 Farley in Chicago during the bye week in Chicago was 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.120 coming out of where he's going into the John Hancock Building. Yeah, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:32.960 and he come out. He came out the door. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.240 He was just like, what year was this? 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.800 Because gosh, this had to be good. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.360 The part of the end of this movie happens in Chicago, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.559 and I'm pretty sure you can see the Handcock Tower. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.760 Yeah, I want to say, I want to say it 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.760 was ninety it was in the mid nineties. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.440 What if he was there filming this movie? 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.160 Maybe, But it was really funny. It was like, holy smokes, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:54.640 that's him. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.560 Yeah, Well, you say some things while I'm gonna look 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.680 at me. Do you remember remember say some things so 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.000 that the podcast doesn't stop while I went I AMDB. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.159 You do know that I am the master control of editing, 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.680 So you can pause and no one will know. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.679 That we're starting. But I like it to be natural, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.120 and then you would be you would they go, wow, 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.800 it came out in ninety five, Joe. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.000 Okay, see, so there you go. It is in that time. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:19.920 But they were probably mean they were filming it in 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.159 ninety four. Yeah it was. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.320 It was wintertime though, but dude. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:24.560 You might have that might have been while they were 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.720 filming this movie. Now, crazy, isn't it. That's cool? 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.240 Every time I see him, I think, I I always remember, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.760 and you know, it's crazy about it. It was cold and 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.480 he came out. He was just sweating bullets. Yeah, and 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.039 we know why. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.000 But that's a whole other story. So here's here's the 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.200 thing with this game. It started out as about as good 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.200 as you could want. The Bucks have not scored a 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.080 touchdown on their opening possession all year, and I'm like, okay, 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.240 this is the time. Yep, We've got it right there. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.160 Moved right down the field with little issue. First and 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.760 goal at the one, First and goal at the one. Yeah, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.480 quarterback sneak not only doesn't work, but it gets Baker injured. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.200 Well, you gets need he twisted in the ankle. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.679 I don't know it maybe got need in the ankle, 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:05.880 but that would be work. A lot of folks. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.520 I heard different people say, oh what are you doing 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.400 a quarterback sneak at that point? I don't mind the call, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.240 and you know I don't. I thought it was a 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:12.720 good call. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.520 You can't start judging the calls based on the outcome. 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.880 You ever listened to sports talk, But Jeff, everybody does 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.320 quarterback sneaks. It's not and Baker's a tough guy. Anything 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.440 can happen. He could have been rolling out, he could 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.160 have backed, he could have dropped back to pass and 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.120 got blindside sacked and got hurt. That's true. You can't. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.680 Everybody wants to be as good as the Eagles at 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.320 this quarterback sneak. But then you do it and the 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:40.840 guy gets hurt, and especially because it's first down, so 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.520 you still have two more tras. Now he gets hurt 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.200 and it has to come out, and we get a 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.160 and then we get a false star penalty and you're 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.680 back at the six, so you can't just you know, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.280 the next run was rushad and he got like three yards, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.320 but that wasn't all that helpful for one second and 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.760 goal from the six and then kind of just barely 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.160 miss trust you didn't quite hook up with God in 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.080 the qualitians, So now you only get three points out 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.440 of first and goal at the one, which is terrible, right, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.360 you committed a penalty, which was the main reason that happened. Correct, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.360 Then they score the next seventeen points. Yeah, And I 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.360 just think that not scoring a touchdown there completely changed 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:14.880 the momentum. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.200 I totally agree, totally agree. It's just and it and 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.520 it lit up the crowd in India. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.200 And then they got and then the Bucks got back 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.720 into it. Yeah, you know, thanks to Baker and Mike Evans, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.760 and they got back into it. But by that point 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.680 they had dug you know, it was a fourteen point hole. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 That's hard to dig out of that. That's the difference. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.200 I've seen teams that would never come back into it 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:39.080 and they keep fighting. We've seen teams exactly and they fight. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.120 And this team it does not just stop. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.640 I mean they may make the mistakes, but they don't stop, 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.120 which is you know, that's a big plus. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.240 Yeah. Well, yeah, that's going to be helpful when when 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.600 and if it all comes together so close, still had 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.280 the ball with about two minutes left. Yes, a chance 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:57.800 to go down and tire or if you go for two, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.720 maybe win and the strip sack happens. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.240 But the other side was you had an opportunity to 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.280 score a touchdown, and you had to set up for 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.880 three points because you needed to scores. So yeah, and 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.360 you had to score the touchdown there. Then you're only 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.320 fighting for a field goal rather than a touch and 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.520 you might be doing it differently. And so we go 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.280 back to this is a I would say broken record, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:18.720 but they don't have records anymore. 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.240 There's a lot of sayings based on things that aren't 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:24.120 don't exist anymore. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:30.880 Okay, red zone problems, red zone problem, that's yeah. All 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.760 I want for Christmas is the red zone problems to disappear. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.040 And if you give me an early Christmas present, I'd 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:36.880 be very very happy. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.520 I'll tell you one that did work though, was the 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.440 one yard touchdown pass to Mike Evans, And you have 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:43.920 to we'll have to rewind a bit in a second 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.920 talk about Payine Durham's catch right before that. But I 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.920 was looking at for some next G stats to write 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.800 about and I found that here's a curious note about 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.240 that Mike Evans touchdown, you know the one I'm talking about, 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.640 which first and goal from the one his first touchdown, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:09:59.960 first and goal from the one he ends up Why 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.000 open in the back left corner. Huh. He had seventeen 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:08.360 point one yards of separation from the nearest defender on 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.160 a play that was first in goal from the one 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.400 according to next since that's that's the largest amount of 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.640 separation at the point of a catch for a touchdown 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.120 pass that's thrown into the end zone since they've been 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.800 charting this stuff in twenty sixteen. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.520 And my best Gene decker off voice wide open, Yeah, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:27.360 wide open. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.040 And if you look at the play you could see 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.240 why because he's got I think Thomas I think is 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.760 his name, the safety. He's got him lined up over him. 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.240 He's in the slot and Payne Durham's split wide and 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.280 Mike gives him a little inside move at first and 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.760 then goes out. You know, you saw the routy where 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.720 the corner, and then Payne Durham did a came up 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.120 one step and did a very shallow slant that not 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.280 only drew the defender that was lined up over him, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.680 but also which I think was Jalen Johnson, but also 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.600 that safety that Mike Evans ran. I let Evans go, 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.600 and so both defenders went after pain Durham, right, And 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.400 that's why Mike was so freaking wide open. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.679 Do you remember last salty that's a bust, right, remember 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.520 last Salty Dogs? I said Mike was gonna have three touchdowns? 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.120 Did you do you remember that? And you said, wow, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.680 if we get three touchdowns and are like yeah, and 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:16.200 well we did. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.040 We needed one more. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.840 I know I was so close. I was so close. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.600 I was thinking that because I made a note. Oh, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.480 I can't wait to brag that I said he would 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.600 get through because we were talking about him climbing up 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.400 the charts. So how many touchdowns in his career. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.360 It's interesting to note that Painne Durham was in on 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.400 that play and he was also the one that made 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.679 the catch right before then, because coach Balls has been 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.839 saying since we drafted him that because of his size 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.439 and hands, he's a good he's a good he should 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.320 be a good red zone weapon. So when we get 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.040 down there near the goal and they've been using him. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.800 All right time on, I want to Okay, we'll finish 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.680 that thought, and I want to go back to Mike Evans. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.120 To Mike Evans, I thought he scored the touchdown on 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.240 the one catch where he rolled over and they put 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:56.640 him down on the one yard line. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.240 Yeah, that was the only catch he had. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.040 Okay, I would I would no, Mike, oh, Mike Evans. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.200 When he made a catch, he went down and and 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.640 and he didn't hit the ground. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.280 He rolled on top of the guy before the That 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:10.840 was the thing in the first trying. Yeah, and you 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.959 can't and you and you and they did close. Well, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:14.600 it was close. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.840 And in fairness, they didn't show the replay in the stadium, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.720 so the coaching people couldn't see it. Now the people 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.840 up in the booth, I will say this, CBS was 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.280 really slow on the replay because I have a truck 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.880 feed and I was looking. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.440 To see, you know, what is it? What is it? 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:30.800 What is it? 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.360 And it was very slow in coming down. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:33.680 Yeah. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.160 But but I want to go I want to go 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.240 back and look at that because the way he rolled over, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.679 it was one of those plays where you're not down. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.000 Yeah, if you land on his body, Yeah, you're not 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.559 down until you're your knee or something touched right around 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.760 your hand. Yeah, your hand. Can you can put a 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.800 hand down. Yeah, you can't put an elbow down though. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.480 But I want to go back and look at that play. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:52.480 But that that would have. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.200 Been He also thought he caught a pass going the 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.920 other direction later in the game, Remember he caught it 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.839 and they called it incompletely right right right here left sideline. Yeah, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.200 he kept telling him to throw the flag and replay it. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.280 I saw the replay and I didn't think I get 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.840 his argument. Yes, but I don't think you get that call. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.000 If it's called a catch, maybe it stays. But it 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:13.600 was called not a catch. It was kind of a 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.360 bird of manual play. He had the ball, he had 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.360 the ball before touched the ground right, and then the 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.560 nose of the ball touched the ground. You can actually 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.840 do that if it doesn't move in your hands, right. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.319 But I don't know if you get that call correct 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.760 because they called it incomplete. They'll just see they'll see 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.680 the ball at the ground and go, yeah, not a catch. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.599 So I was not surprised we did not throw the 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.200 flag there. And I can't remember if we was that 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.240 the driver where we got the fourth and ten nineteen 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.080 year pastime, Yes, that was quite a place. Yeah, that 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.160 was great. Was it was a great play. But Baker 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:43.439 had some nice throws. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.959 Right, And that goes back to where you see the team, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.000 you know, evolving, doing better and better. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.640 But it's just it's Baker said something after the game, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.320 and my tape recorded to get it really well, but 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.480 I wanted to what did he say. I'm going to 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:00.200 look it up you. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.480 Because I look at your transcript to see there's a transcript. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.640 Was this when he was just talking now this is 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:10.960 a this is aum okay because oh no, no, no, Actually 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.200 it was when he was talking to TJ. Yeah, because 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.800 I wasn't there for his podium in because the elevators 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.120 there are so slow, Oh. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:22.960 My god, and so I was terrified I didn't have 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.680 enough time to get up, finish my story and get 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.960 back down. I'll have an elevator story too, but uh, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.640 he said, I can't do it verbatim, and I don't 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.560 have a transcript of it, right, But it was something 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.000 to the effect of we had everything out there, we 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.040 could do anything, Like he said, they had a lot 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.640 of things that they knew would work. But then how 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.120 do we end up with like just three hundred yards 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.360 in twenty points? Right if everything's working correct? And I 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.320 think there was more to the quote. Was you know, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.240 like you know, we just didn't make it happen here 0:14:55.320 --> 0:15:02.520 or there or whatever paraphrasing. Yeah, But but the the 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.800 thing about I will say this too about Baker. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.560 You know, he really smart dude. But win or lose, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.920 he'll do one. He's been very gracious and not a 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.080 lot of quarterbacks standing there and and he talks and 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.400 he will answer the question, and he's he's pretty honest. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.000 In this particular case, TJ went up to him in 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.520 the locker room and we were waiting, but he was 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.920 talking to Dave Canalis. Yeah and sort of like and. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.960 TJ and Bag and DJ made the comment that right 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.040 now he's heard of one of his coaches and we're 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:33.800 not going to interrupt that. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.480 It wasn't a heated conversation or anything, just kind of 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:41.480 quietly talking about me. I didn't, but see. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:45.880 That's that's a respect factor that we have. When we 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.120 are permitted into the locker room early, you have to 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.920 remember that's their their SEU, you know, until the door 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:53.680 is totally well. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.320 He Baker obviously must have agreed before the season that 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.040 he would do after every game. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.960 I had a great conver well, we the Salty Dogs, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.320 so with him with him, and so that God gave 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.920 me an opportunity to let him know who I was. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:08.920 And I stopped and I talked to him and I 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.360 explained to him in the preseason that this is what 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.400 we would like to do, and we have done it, and. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:18.000 He's done it very graciously every time, no matter what 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.640 the outcome was, and not given t J any kind 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.480 of like side eye or anything. Just as soon as 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.080 he's ready, he goes, okay, let's go, and yeah, then 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.240 he very he does answers every question. Right, I I 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.800 it's again it. I think the people that listen to 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:38.920 this podcast are probably the types of Bucks fans who 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:43.600 are willing to give Baker a chance. So I don't think, yeah, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.240 there's probably not a lot of people screaming at us 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.320 right now, but I just I've been so impressed with 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.040 him overall, and I'm not trying to sugarcoat in now here. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.240 We're four and seven. Baker's been good. He hasn't been. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.200 A superstar, but he hasn't been He's definitely not a 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.320 reason where for right and I had a conversation with 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.400 someone they were talking about, oh, you know, I'm tired 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:07.160 of his passes getting batted down hand. Well, the dude 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:08.640 that was doing it was like six to seven. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.320 Yeah, he's huge. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.840 I mean, you know it happens, but you know, all 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.320 quarterbacks are throwing through a lane. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.600 So I think the person's point is probably the baker 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.960 six foot even, I think, yeah, well. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.320 Six one, I think it's which is a. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.440