Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there win?
Speaker 2: This happened back to return at Spurlock Michael Spurlock of
Speaker 2: the cham He's to the twenty, He's to the twenty five.
Speaker 1: Parlo thirty to the forty yard line.
Speaker 2: We could see history fifty forty come the thirty yard light.
Speaker 1: Michael run, Michael Luck.
Speaker 2: Michael run, touchdown, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: There you go in.
Speaker 2: That shot gun sends wee receivers left. Here's the staff
Speaker 2: of the glitzer has picked up Brady Unity.
Speaker 1: Caught ball ups. He has the record at the eleven
Speaker 1: yard line.
Speaker 2: Mike Evins becomes the first NFL player in lead history
Speaker 2: to record a thousand yards of more of this first
Speaker 2: seventh seasons that.
Speaker 1: Want to throw by Brady.
Speaker 2: Congratulations Mike Evens, who can forget.
Speaker 1: Gann looking gat holds up the hats the other side.
Speaker 2: Derek Bucks thirty touchdown Tampa Bay. Derek Brooks the host
Speaker 2: paluable player in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: There it is Dot Daggers in We're gonna win the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Here's the snap. Mahomes running to his right.
Speaker 1: Lookout he may run.
Speaker 2: Mahomes director now battle inner seven.
Speaker 1: Picked over the ins on Fox. I gotta beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We're the chapters of the world that we still have.
Speaker 1: I'm inn a thirty three Togo Davin White. What a
Speaker 1: great second season.
Speaker 2: If that's it for Casey, Fox are the super Bowl champs.
Speaker 1: They can't stop the plot. We call them the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Salty Dogs Podcast. I am Scott Smith,
Speaker 1: I am Jeff Ryan. We are the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 3: Very salty right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting hard not to be well, six out
Speaker 1: of seven losses.
Speaker 3: I'm frustrated because I think this is a pretty decent
Speaker 3: football team. And I'm frustrated because the players are there
Speaker 3: and unfortunately, whatever the reason is, don't know what it is,
Speaker 3: because if they knew, they'd fix.
Speaker 1: It, right.
Speaker 3: But it's the play one or two. But that's the game.
Speaker 1: The reason it's frustrating to me is that each almost
Speaker 1: every game, I'm seeing some bit of progress. Yes, that
Speaker 1: makes me think, Okay, this team's turning the corner. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't add up to a win now. As
Speaker 1: an example, in this last game, the running game worked
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards and exactly a hunter for Rashad
Speaker 1: six point six yards per carry, five explosive plays, which
Speaker 1: is ten or more yards, and that's what you want.
Speaker 1: And that's by far, that's the most we've had an
Speaker 1: ending game this year. You could tell by the fact
Speaker 1: that we're averaging about twenty four point three carries per
Speaker 1: game that even when it's not working, they are going
Speaker 1: to stick with the plan to have a balanced offense.
Speaker 1: It makes sense. So you would think that when that offense,
Speaker 1: when that rushing attack then actually also works, it would
Speaker 1: really open things up, right, And yet we still only
Speaker 1: had about three hundred yards and twenty points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I, I imagine you know, Buck
Speaker 3: fans are frustrated and you and I right now are
Speaker 3: a little salty about this. Is imagine Todd Bowles right
Speaker 3: now where he where, and I understand what he says.
Speaker 3: When when you know, they practice, they see it and
Speaker 3: then something goes wrong, that for him, that has got.
Speaker 1: To be like, Yeah, Baker said a lot of the
Speaker 1: same things after the game he did, where he's like,
Speaker 1: we I believe in this team and we can do this,
Speaker 1: but we just keep not making the plays we're supposed
Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, on game day.
Speaker 3: And you see the play developing, you go, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: And then and then whatever for whatever reason in this.
Speaker 1: Game, the really bad one was the Trey Palmer.
Speaker 3: Yes, which you would think, you know, if you're going
Speaker 3: to him, he's made some phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He's had a couple drops, he's made some unbelievable catches. Yep.
Speaker 1: I think that's just something that he's working through as
Speaker 1: a rookie. I think his future is very bright. But
Speaker 1: that one hurt a lot because not only did that
Speaker 1: was at least going to be a first down well
Speaker 1: into their territory, and just from the way that play looked,
Speaker 1: he might have broken it the whole way.
Speaker 3: I don't know the way I looked at that play,
Speaker 3: he'd still be running right now. So I mean no,
Speaker 3: I thought that was a touchdown. I really did.
Speaker 1: And it was one of Baker's best throws of the game.
Speaker 1: I mean truly on the money and a laser and.
Speaker 3: And and so you you say, okay, well that's that's
Speaker 3: only one. You get one interception, So you're thinking, okay,
Speaker 3: they come in bunches, and sure enough, and the guy
Speaker 3: that you think has the most sure hands ever who
Speaker 3: makes the big play, our buddy and Twine win Jor
Speaker 3: he got hit.
Speaker 1: Ye. It's not like it was just straight drop. He
Speaker 1: got it and then he got blown up. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I'd have to look closely
Speaker 1: to see if you.
Speaker 3: But he's so great, I just I just expect him to,
Speaker 3: uh to make that.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best. I'm three or
Speaker 1: four players on the team.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he laid his head down on his pillow
Speaker 3: and he's still feeling it.
Speaker 1: You know that hit?
Speaker 3: Get that hit, and I should have held.
Speaker 1: On to it. Yeah, you always want it, even if
Speaker 1: it's defensible, but you always want it. You wish you
Speaker 1: had it back.
Speaker 3: But then they get another I n T. So they
Speaker 3: come in bunches.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did? You mean they would have they would
Speaker 1: they did not? Well, they got two, right, they would
Speaker 1: have had three? Correct? Wait?
Speaker 3: What, Well didn't Carlton Davis have one?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So they had one? Was that fumble? Was it? One? Takeaway?
Speaker 1: That was it? Really? Yeah? And then the Colts had
Speaker 1: two because they got one interception and then the fumble
Speaker 1: with the strip sack at the end.
Speaker 3: So the first one was Carlton Davis's bick. Okay, for
Speaker 3: some reason I was thinking that was later on do
Speaker 3: you see what movies on my TV there dumb and dumber. No, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is a classic.
Speaker 3: Oh, Tommy boy, there you go. All right, thank you, pees.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a story.
Speaker 1: Your firearms were useless against them. I'll give you a story.
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 1: Chris Farley?
Speaker 3: Farley in Chicago during the bye week in Chicago was
Speaker 3: coming out of where he's going into the John Hancock Building. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he come out. He came out the door.
Speaker 1: He was just like, what year was this?
Speaker 3: Because gosh, this had to be good.
Speaker 1: The part of the end of this movie happens in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure you can see the Handcock Tower.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say, I want to say it
Speaker 3: was ninety it was in the mid nineties.
Speaker 1: What if he was there filming this movie?
Speaker 3: Maybe, But it was really funny. It was like, holy smokes,
Speaker 3: that's him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you say some things while I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: at me. Do you remember remember say some things so
Speaker 1: that the podcast doesn't stop while I went I AMDB.
Speaker 3: You do know that I am the master control of editing,
Speaker 3: So you can pause and no one will know.
Speaker 1: That we're starting. But I like it to be natural,
Speaker 1: and then you would be you would they go, wow,
Speaker 1: it came out in ninety five, Joe.
Speaker 3: Okay, see, so there you go. It is in that time.
Speaker 1: But they were probably mean they were filming it in
Speaker 1: ninety four. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: It was wintertime though, but dude.
Speaker 1: You might have that might have been while they were
Speaker 1: filming this movie. Now, crazy, isn't it. That's cool?
Speaker 3: Every time I see him, I think, I I always remember,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's crazy about it. It was cold and
Speaker 3: he came out. He was just sweating bullets. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: we know why.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story. So here's here's the
Speaker 1: thing with this game. It started out as about as good
Speaker 1: as you could want. The Bucks have not scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown on their opening possession all year, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is the time. Yep, We've got it right there.
Speaker 1: Moved right down the field with little issue. First and
Speaker 1: goal at the one, First and goal at the one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak not only doesn't work, but it gets Baker injured.
Speaker 3: Well, you gets need he twisted in the ankle.
Speaker 1: I don't know it maybe got need in the ankle,
Speaker 1: but that would be work. A lot of folks.
Speaker 3: I heard different people say, oh what are you doing
Speaker 3: a quarterback sneak at that point? I don't mind the call,
Speaker 3: and you know I don't. I thought it was a
Speaker 3: good call.
Speaker 1: You can't start judging the calls based on the outcome.
Speaker 1: You ever listened to sports talk, But Jeff, everybody does
Speaker 1: quarterback sneaks. It's not and Baker's a tough guy. Anything
Speaker 1: can happen. He could have been rolling out, he could
Speaker 1: have backed, he could have dropped back to pass and
Speaker 1: got blindside sacked and got hurt. That's true. You can't.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be as good as the Eagles at
Speaker 1: this quarterback sneak. But then you do it and the
Speaker 1: guy gets hurt, and especially because it's first down, so
Speaker 1: you still have two more tras. Now he gets hurt
Speaker 1: and it has to come out, and we get a
Speaker 1: and then we get a false star penalty and you're
Speaker 1: back at the six, so you can't just you know,
Speaker 1: the next run was rushad and he got like three yards,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't all that helpful for one second and
Speaker 1: goal from the six and then kind of just barely
Speaker 1: miss trust you didn't quite hook up with God in
Speaker 1: the qualitians, So now you only get three points out
Speaker 1: of first and goal at the one, which is terrible, right,
Speaker 1: you committed a penalty, which was the main reason that happened. Correct,
Speaker 1: Then they score the next seventeen points. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: just think that not scoring a touchdown there completely changed
Speaker 1: the momentum.
Speaker 3: I totally agree, totally agree. It's just and it and
Speaker 3: it lit up the crowd in India.
Speaker 1: And then they got and then the Bucks got back
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, you know, thanks to Baker and Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: and they got back into it. But by that point
Speaker 1: they had dug you know, it was a fourteen point hole.
Speaker 1: That's hard to dig out of that. That's the difference.
Speaker 1: I've seen teams that would never come back into it
Speaker 1: and they keep fighting. We've seen teams exactly and they fight.
Speaker 1: And this team it does not just stop.
Speaker 3: I mean they may make the mistakes, but they don't stop,
Speaker 3: which is you know, that's a big plus.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, that's going to be helpful when when
Speaker 1: and if it all comes together so close, still had
Speaker 1: the ball with about two minutes left. Yes, a chance
Speaker 1: to go down and tire or if you go for two,
Speaker 1: maybe win and the strip sack happens.
Speaker 3: But the other side was you had an opportunity to
Speaker 3: score a touchdown, and you had to set up for
Speaker 3: three points because you needed to scores. So yeah, and
Speaker 3: you had to score the touchdown there. Then you're only
Speaker 3: fighting for a field goal rather than a touch and
Speaker 3: you might be doing it differently. And so we go
Speaker 3: back to this is a I would say broken record,
Speaker 3: but they don't have records anymore.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of sayings based on things that aren't
Speaker 1: don't exist anymore.
Speaker 3: Okay, red zone problems, red zone problem, that's yeah. All
Speaker 3: I want for Christmas is the red zone problems to disappear.
Speaker 3: And if you give me an early Christmas present, I'd
Speaker 3: be very very happy.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one that did work though, was the
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown pass to Mike Evans, And you have
Speaker 1: to we'll have to rewind a bit in a second
Speaker 1: talk about Payine Durham's catch right before that. But I
Speaker 1: was looking at for some next G stats to write
Speaker 1: about and I found that here's a curious note about
Speaker 1: that Mike Evans touchdown, you know the one I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: which first and goal from the one his first touchdown,
Speaker 1: first and goal from the one he ends up Why
Speaker 1: open in the back left corner. Huh. He had seventeen
Speaker 1: point one yards of separation from the nearest defender on
Speaker 1: a play that was first in goal from the one
Speaker 1: according to next since that's that's the largest amount of
Speaker 1: separation at the point of a catch for a touchdown
Speaker 1: pass that's thrown into the end zone since they've been
Speaker 1: charting this stuff in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: And my best Gene decker off voice wide open, Yeah,
Speaker 3: wide open.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the play you could see
Speaker 1: why because he's got I think Thomas I think is
Speaker 1: his name, the safety. He's got him lined up over him.
Speaker 1: He's in the slot and Payne Durham's split wide and
Speaker 1: Mike gives him a little inside move at first and
Speaker 1: then goes out. You know, you saw the routy where
Speaker 1: the corner, and then Payne Durham did a came up
Speaker 1: one step and did a very shallow slant that not
Speaker 1: only drew the defender that was lined up over him,
Speaker 1: but also which I think was Jalen Johnson, but also
Speaker 1: that safety that Mike Evans ran. I let Evans go,
Speaker 1: and so both defenders went after pain Durham, right, And
Speaker 1: that's why Mike was so freaking wide open.
Speaker 3: Do you remember last salty that's a bust, right, remember
Speaker 3: last Salty Dogs? I said Mike was gonna have three touchdowns?
Speaker 3: Did you do you remember that? And you said, wow,
Speaker 3: if we get three touchdowns and are like yeah, and
Speaker 3: well we did.
Speaker 1: We needed one more.
Speaker 3: I know I was so close. I was so close.
Speaker 3: I was thinking that because I made a note. Oh,
Speaker 3: I can't wait to brag that I said he would
Speaker 3: get through because we were talking about him climbing up
Speaker 3: the charts. So how many touchdowns in his career.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to note that Painne Durham was in on
Speaker 1: that play and he was also the one that made
Speaker 1: the catch right before then, because coach Balls has been
Speaker 1: saying since we drafted him that because of his size
Speaker 1: and hands, he's a good he's a good he should
Speaker 1: be a good red zone weapon. So when we get
Speaker 1: down there near the goal and they've been using him.
Speaker 3: All right time on, I want to Okay, we'll finish
Speaker 3: that thought, and I want to go back to Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: To Mike Evans, I thought he scored the touchdown on
Speaker 3: the one catch where he rolled over and they put
Speaker 3: him down on the one yard line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the only catch he had.
Speaker 3: Okay, I would I would no, Mike, oh, Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: When he made a catch, he went down and and
Speaker 3: and he didn't hit the ground.
Speaker 1: He rolled on top of the guy before the That
Speaker 1: was the thing in the first trying. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: can't and you and you and they did close. Well,
Speaker 1: it was close.
Speaker 3: And in fairness, they didn't show the replay in the stadium,
Speaker 3: so the coaching people couldn't see it. Now the people
Speaker 3: up in the booth, I will say this, CBS was
Speaker 3: really slow on the replay because I have a truck
Speaker 3: feed and I was looking.
Speaker 1: To see, you know, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 3: And it was very slow in coming down.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But but I want to go I want to go
Speaker 3: back and look at that because the way he rolled over,
Speaker 3: it was one of those plays where you're not down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you land on his body, Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: down until you're your knee or something touched right around
Speaker 1: your hand. Yeah, your hand. Can you can put a
Speaker 1: hand down. Yeah, you can't put an elbow down though.
Speaker 3: But I want to go back and look at that play.
Speaker 3: But that that would have.
Speaker 1: Been He also thought he caught a pass going the
Speaker 1: other direction later in the game, Remember he caught it
Speaker 1: and they called it incompletely right right right here left sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he kept telling him to throw the flag and replay it.
Speaker 1: I saw the replay and I didn't think I get
Speaker 1: his argument. Yes, but I don't think you get that call.
Speaker 1: If it's called a catch, maybe it stays. But it
Speaker 1: was called not a catch. It was kind of a
Speaker 1: bird of manual play. He had the ball, he had
Speaker 1: the ball before touched the ground right, and then the
Speaker 1: nose of the ball touched the ground. You can actually
Speaker 1: do that if it doesn't move in your hands, right.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you get that call correct
Speaker 1: because they called it incomplete. They'll just see they'll see
Speaker 1: the ball at the ground and go, yeah, not a catch.
Speaker 1: So I was not surprised we did not throw the
Speaker 1: flag there. And I can't remember if we was that
Speaker 1: the driver where we got the fourth and ten nineteen
Speaker 1: year pastime, Yes, that was quite a place. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was great. Was it was a great play. But Baker
Speaker 1: had some nice throws.
Speaker 3: Right, And that goes back to where you see the team,
Speaker 3: you know, evolving, doing better and better.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's Baker said something after the game,
Speaker 1: and my tape recorded to get it really well, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to what did he say. I'm going to
Speaker 1: look it up you.
Speaker 3: Because I look at your transcript to see there's a transcript.
Speaker 3: Was this when he was just talking now this is
Speaker 3: a this is aum okay because oh no, no, no, Actually
Speaker 3: it was when he was talking to TJ. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: I wasn't there for his podium in because the elevators
Speaker 3: there are so slow, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, and so I was terrified I didn't have
Speaker 1: enough time to get up, finish my story and get
Speaker 1: back down. I'll have an elevator story too, but uh,
Speaker 1: he said, I can't do it verbatim, and I don't
Speaker 1: have a transcript of it, right, But it was something
Speaker 1: to the effect of we had everything out there, we
Speaker 1: could do anything, Like he said, they had a lot
Speaker 1: of things that they knew would work. But then how
Speaker 1: do we end up with like just three hundred yards
Speaker 1: in twenty points? Right if everything's working correct? And I
Speaker 1: think there was more to the quote. Was you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, we just didn't make it happen here
Speaker 1: or there or whatever paraphrasing. Yeah, But but the the
Speaker 1: thing about I will say this too about Baker.
Speaker 3: You know, he really smart dude. But win or lose,
Speaker 3: he'll do one. He's been very gracious and not a
Speaker 3: lot of quarterbacks standing there and and he talks and
Speaker 3: he will answer the question, and he's he's pretty honest.
Speaker 1: In this particular case, TJ went up to him in
Speaker 1: the locker room and we were waiting, but he was
Speaker 1: talking to Dave Canalis. Yeah and sort of like and.
Speaker 3: TJ and Bag and DJ made the comment that right
Speaker 3: now he's heard of one of his coaches and we're
Speaker 3: not going to interrupt that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a heated conversation or anything, just kind of
Speaker 1: quietly talking about me. I didn't, but see.
Speaker 3: That's that's a respect factor that we have. When we
Speaker 3: are permitted into the locker room early, you have to
Speaker 3: remember that's their their SEU, you know, until the door
Speaker 3: is totally well.
Speaker 1: He Baker obviously must have agreed before the season that
Speaker 1: he would do after every game.
Speaker 3: I had a great conver well, we the Salty Dogs,
Speaker 3: so with him with him, and so that God gave
Speaker 3: me an opportunity to let him know who I was.
Speaker 3: And I stopped and I talked to him and I
Speaker 3: explained to him in the preseason that this is what
Speaker 3: we would like to do, and we have done it, and.
Speaker 1: He's done it very graciously every time, no matter what
Speaker 1: the outcome was, and not given t J any kind
Speaker 1: of like side eye or anything. Just as soon as
Speaker 1: he's ready, he goes, okay, let's go, and yeah, then
Speaker 1: he very he does answers every question. Right, I I
Speaker 1: it's again it. I think the people that listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast are probably the types of Bucks fans who
Speaker 1: are willing to give Baker a chance. So I don't think, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's probably not a lot of people screaming at us
Speaker 1: right now, but I just I've been so impressed with
Speaker 1: him overall, and I'm not trying to sugarcoat in now here.
Speaker 1: We're four and seven. Baker's been good. He hasn't been.
Speaker 3: A superstar, but he hasn't been He's definitely not a
Speaker 3: reason where for right and I had a conversation with
Speaker 3: someone they were talking about, oh, you know, I'm tired
Speaker 3: of his passes getting batted down hand. Well, the dude
Speaker 3: that was doing it was like six to seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's huge.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know it happens, but you know, all
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are throwing through a lane.
Speaker 1: So I think the person's point is probably the baker
Speaker 1: six foot even, I think, yeah, well.
Speaker 3: Six one, I think it's which is a.
Speaker 1: Little below average for an NFL quarterbacks. So he may
Speaker 1: have a harder time potentially getting the ball over the
Speaker 1: line in certain situations. But I mean, has that really
Speaker 1: been that big of a problem. Of course, and you
Speaker 1: don't want any passes battered down, but they happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a chronic issue. No, he's still able to
Speaker 1: use the middle of the field, which he has done.
Speaker 3: He did so listen, he's a gamer, and and he'll
Speaker 3: take off and run, which every time he does it,
Speaker 3: I go.
Speaker 1: But the fact, well, he ran over a guy in
Speaker 1: his last game. He did.
Speaker 3: And what I what I liked what he said after
Speaker 3: in the locker room. Someone asked him about out playing
Speaker 3: with his ankle and everything, and he said, adrenaline is.
Speaker 1: Quite he'd already mentioned the adrenaline uh huh. And then
Speaker 1: and then something came back to him, says, you were
Speaker 1: able to you were even able to like roll out
Speaker 1: and run around and go. Adrenalines quite a drug.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were taught it's funny, we were
Speaker 3: talking about what the difference was going to be with
Speaker 3: Baker because he wasn't rolling out in the beginning, you know,
Speaker 3: after he first got hurt, he wasn't rolling out right away.
Speaker 3: And then as the game was going on, we were thinking.
Speaker 1: Wow, he said it loosened up, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden we were like, boy, you know, this makes
Speaker 1: a little bit harder because he can't roll out.
Speaker 3: What does he do next play he rolls out? Well,
Speaker 3: well that answered that question.
Speaker 1: She made a couple of nice rollout plays. I like
Speaker 1: those plays. I knew that was something that we were
Speaker 1: going to do with Dave Canlison. That's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons we liked Baker as a choice to be our
Speaker 1: next storting quarterback or to come here and compete for
Speaker 1: the job. Right. We didn't really get back to the
Speaker 1: pain Durham catch, No, and that's worth highlighting. I think
Speaker 1: so too. I sorry that I said. According to the
Speaker 1: NFL Next Gen stats, uh, that play had a twenty
Speaker 1: five point three percent chance of being completed. When the
Speaker 1: ball was thrown, I was very concerned it was going
Speaker 1: to be intercepted. Payne just basically got over the guy
Speaker 1: and took it away from him, yes, and then kind
Speaker 1: of spun and lunch towards the goal line. That's a
Speaker 1: great play man, and that's and that's not a rookie
Speaker 1: play that's that's a veteran plate. That's just a guy
Speaker 1: with some specific talents. Yeah, that was pretty impressive playing well.
Speaker 1: It's not a position we're getting a huge amount out of,
Speaker 1: but it seems like kit Outen gets one like twenty
Speaker 1: two to twenty four yard played down the scene in
Speaker 1: every game he got hit. He had one again this week,
Speaker 1: ended up with four for forty five, and if you
Speaker 1: add in pain, that means our Titans gave us five
Speaker 1: for fifty seven. It doesn't mean they're featured part of
Speaker 1: the passing attack, but they're doing enough, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: this game was a lot of Mike Evans. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: not much for a shot in the passing game. But
Speaker 1: he only had two catches, but he was running.
Speaker 3: Well very much, so very much, and there was a
Speaker 3: question mark on his health.
Speaker 1: So I'd say props to him. We're shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, he just had a little bit of
Speaker 3: a sort of sure, but still, I mean we all
Speaker 3: say that a little bit of a sort it's not.
Speaker 1: A big deal.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna bother me at all. It's all good
Speaker 3: to go. But yeah, the frustration of just three more
Speaker 3: plays you.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, And so you get things that you weren't getting,
Speaker 1: like a good rushing attack, like great third down defense,
Speaker 1: two for eleven. Unfortunately after three of those, they got
Speaker 1: it on fourth down. So it's a tad bit misleading.
Speaker 1: But good things that have been hurting us before. Can't
Speaker 1: run the ball, can't stop teams on third down, can't
Speaker 1: stop third and long. For some reason, all those things
Speaker 1: were fine, and the third down defense that actually been
Speaker 1: pretty good, and the third down long problem has gone
Speaker 1: away for the last four weeks. Over the last four weeks,
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are sixth in the league on defense in
Speaker 1: third down rate allowed. So you get those things resolved,
Speaker 1: and then you, for the first time all season, you
Speaker 1: give up a touchdown off of a turnover. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you know? That was the first time all year? So
Speaker 1: Baker through the pick. They got a touchdown on that drive.
Speaker 1: So one of the most amazing strengths that the Bucks
Speaker 1: had had through ten games. It's not allowing a single
Speaker 1: touchdown off turnovers, right, and then that becomes your problem, right,
Speaker 1: So you just can't put it all together, and you
Speaker 1: you know the things you have to fix, and you
Speaker 1: fix some of them, and then something else crops up and.
Speaker 3: There's no answer because if there was, it would be fixed.
Speaker 3: And it's it's you know, you hear communication, you hear concentration,
Speaker 3: you hear you know, and it's it's.
Speaker 1: In the game.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what kind of happens. You know, you're
Speaker 3: you're gonna have drop balls, you're gonna have off side,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have However, the one off sides on on
Speaker 3: Stanny I thought was questionable, but that's just me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which could any of this have to do with
Speaker 1: the fact that this roster is a lot younger than
Speaker 1: we've had in recent years. There you go, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of a transitioning thing. I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: transition because one game out of first and we can
Speaker 1: still make.
Speaker 3: The play that was the next thing, the next thing
Speaker 3: I was going to say, but yes, no, I think
Speaker 3: that's what happens is everyone forgets that this was supposed
Speaker 3: to be one of those years and the team is playing.
Speaker 3: It started out playing really well and then we're struggling. However,
Speaker 3: the only game. I felt like they weren't totally in
Speaker 3: it was the Eagles game, but then later on you
Speaker 3: thought maybe, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the San Francisco. San Francisco doesn't look great,
Speaker 1: but they were in that game. Yeah. I mean you look,
Speaker 1: they weren't overwhelmed before correct.
Speaker 3: Correct and and you know, and then you look at
Speaker 3: the Atlanta game, frustration, the Houston game, frustration Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I mean that you could have won that if Chris
Speaker 1: turns around one second earlier, right right. That's every team
Speaker 1: that doesn't win goal. Yes, at the end of the
Speaker 1: season goes back and can't go back and go, well,
Speaker 1: if we'd have just done this and this and this,
Speaker 1: it's you can't. Unfortunately, no, So it really is kind
Speaker 1: of irrelevant.
Speaker 3: But I do like the fact that that, as you
Speaker 3: said that the offense is showing promise, things are improving.
Speaker 3: You're you're starting to see it. It's not as it
Speaker 3: it's almost there, but it's not. And I think that's
Speaker 3: what's frustrating the coaches is that it's so close. And
Speaker 3: hopefully it clicks this Sunday because as you stated previously,
Speaker 3: of all the craziness one game out.
Speaker 1: I hate saying it too and I really do, because
Speaker 1: it makes it sound like you're acting like we're not
Speaker 1: four and seven. Well, I'm just doing the math, I know.
Speaker 1: But it's like coach Coach Bull said after the game
Speaker 1: in his press conference, He's like, I don't have it
Speaker 1: exactly right. But to paraphrases, he was saying, we're only
Speaker 1: one game out. It feels like we're ten games out us,
Speaker 1: which it does. It does, and it's not the case.
Speaker 1: But I guess the flip side of that coin would be, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're one game out, but you're four and seven, so
Speaker 1: you are playing like a four and seven team. So
Speaker 1: you are not going to mysteriously win your next six games,
Speaker 1: right unless unless you do. But you can't. We can't
Speaker 1: stand here and say I know that's going to happen,
Speaker 1: even though in theory, in quiet moments, if I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about it and I look at the remaining schedule, it
Speaker 1: could happen, and I think, I just it's not fair
Speaker 1: to say this because they beat us. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're better than Atlanta. Yeah, we can have to prove
Speaker 1: that Carolina's one in ten. Don't get me wrong, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking it from last year. Listen, we're not taking
Speaker 1: them easy, and they I guess we can talk about
Speaker 1: this now. They fired their head coach, Frank Reiche. That
Speaker 1: means they've made an in season coaching change for the
Speaker 1: second year in a row, and for the third time
Speaker 1: under David Tepper. This time, frank Reich lasted eleven games.
Speaker 1: I heard something today that it was like the shortest
Speaker 1: tenure for a head coach in like forty years or
Speaker 1: something like that. It was he didn't he didn't make
Speaker 1: it as long as Urban Meyer. Yeah, and I like
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, Yeah, so do I.
Speaker 3: I'm mister mystified by I mean, I'm not in their building.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know. I always ask
Speaker 3: this question if I'm managing people and I hired someone
Speaker 3: and it's not working out, I would always ask myself,
Speaker 3: what was it that made me want to hire this person?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why did I What was it that I said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is who I wanted? The reason? You know why?
Speaker 1: Right right? Because they knew they were going to draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback sure and first overall, or they actually had
Speaker 1: to make a trade to make that happen. But they
Speaker 1: were planning to try to get a rookie quarterback huh.
Speaker 1: And they wanted a coach, a head coach, and then
Speaker 1: people around him who would be ideal for developing that
Speaker 1: and on paper it looked like it kind of I
Speaker 1: always thought it was a bit overhyped. Do you remember
Speaker 1: in the off seat and this is not Revisions history.
Speaker 1: You can go ask the PR guys over there. I
Speaker 1: had this rant multiple times during the summer that this
Speaker 1: coaching staff in Carolina was being crowned as one of
Speaker 1: the best coaching staffs of all time. Look this amazing
Speaker 1: coaching staff they put together. Why Josh McCown had never
Speaker 1: coached before? Isiro everro great dude who we know from
Speaker 1: when he was here? And I hope he goes on
Speaker 1: to have a really and he's still there. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's still there. But he had been a defensive corner
Speaker 1: for one year. Yeah, and they did well and din
Speaker 1: for for about two thirds of that year, right, and
Speaker 1: then it kind of fell apart at the end. I'm
Speaker 1: not disagreeing that he's a rising star coach, yes, but
Speaker 1: how do you call this the best guy? Do you anoint?
Speaker 1: The staff is so amazing before the season and then
Speaker 1: in the last eleven games, Josh McCown also got fired.
Speaker 1: Duce Staley also.
Speaker 3: Go right, which is not unusual because if it's his,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: They were his guys.
Speaker 3: Maybe well, but but you know, they did have a
Speaker 3: press conference, Uh, the Panthers did.
Speaker 1: The owner did, and yeah, he stood up there and
Speaker 1: took the questions.
Speaker 3: He did didn't answer anything, but he took the questions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was a good job. I would have done to Right. Well.
Speaker 3: One of the questions was did you get you know,
Speaker 3: you know, did you pick the wrong quarterback?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then they were saying, well, who made you know?
Speaker 3: There there was a report that the owners decided he
Speaker 3: David decided that who they were going to pick, which
Speaker 3: if you own the team, I guess you I would
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 1: I guess you have that proof. Yet these are reports. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: if right and Frank comes out now and says I
Speaker 1: didn't want him, I wanted to Stroud, then we'll have some
Speaker 1: I don't see from doing that. I don't either. He did.
Speaker 3: He already did a one on one with the columnist
Speaker 3: of the Charlotte Charlotte Observer, and he said that his
Speaker 3: personal relationship with the ownership is strong and he understood
Speaker 3: he's sorry he didn't get a longer piece of time,
Speaker 3: but he's not.
Speaker 1: You know, but I wouldn't go out burning bridges either. No,
Speaker 1: I was saying it would be interesting if he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I find it also interesting is that depending
Speaker 3: on how his contracts are written, he's collecting money from
Speaker 3: the Colts and from the Panthers, and they're both guaranteed.
Speaker 3: So the question is, is your contract guaranteed no matter
Speaker 3: whether you work or not, or it's guaranteed unless you
Speaker 3: get another job.
Speaker 1: So it probably wage. Yeah. Either the Colts probably were
Speaker 1: not on the hook for a lot he got signed by.
Speaker 1: Once he got hired by the Panthers, he probably an
Speaker 1: offset language depends.
Speaker 3: Yes, Sometimes sometimes those contracts do, sometimes they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but either way, I think most teams are
Speaker 1: interested in getting offset language for.
Speaker 3: High dollars or a coach and you know, and for Frank,
Speaker 3: he was, you know, the first quarterback for the Carolina
Speaker 3: Panthers when they were an expansion team, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like full circle coming back. Yep, Kerry
Speaker 3: Collins replaced him like three four games in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they drafted Carry Collins, but he was he got
Speaker 1: the first I believe or four starts. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: so kind of like often your dropping football knowledge that
Speaker 1: I don't know he's.
Speaker 3: Uh, he's gone full circle. But I you know, I
Speaker 3: I understand beyond full circle. Now, Yeah, I understand that
Speaker 3: the frustration of you know, you're one in ten, you're
Speaker 3: gonna make a change. I just don't know if it
Speaker 3: makes great sense to make it in the middle of
Speaker 3: the season. The only thing I can think of is
Speaker 3: that if there's so much cormorial in uh, internally that
Speaker 3: you have to make a move like that, and you
Speaker 3: don't know unless you're there, so and I'm not and
Speaker 3: you're not.
Speaker 1: No, that's true.
Speaker 3: And so now they become this, do this? Does the
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers rarely around like the Raiders did?
Speaker 1: Coach?
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, you get that.
Speaker 1: I wish they hadn't done this right before us, because yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what Rondi said today. That would galvanize them. That
Speaker 1: was a good word. The Raiders won their first two
Speaker 1: games after Josh mcdamm's right, we're a little bit of
Speaker 1: the difference there, because it became clear from a lot
Speaker 1: of Raiders players comments afterwards that they hated Josh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whether I doubt that's the way they filmed out. Frank Raich, No,
Speaker 1: and I did like what Todd had to say, It
Speaker 1: don't matter, you know what.
Speaker 3: We need to take care of our business. We take
Speaker 3: care of our business. It doesn't matter what you do,
Speaker 3: you know, And you have to go into those you know.
Speaker 3: It's like you said, whether you're you know, one in
Speaker 3: ten and or ten and one. We have to make
Speaker 3: sure we play our game. If we do our business,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what you do. If we do our business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what both coaches think. Is that
Speaker 1: always it's true? Probably in this case? Is that always
Speaker 1: true if you have a team, If you're the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals and you're about to play the Philadelphia Eagles this year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you go, we don't care about them as long
Speaker 1: as we'll be fine if we do take care of ourselves.
Speaker 1: Is that really true? Well, if is Carolina's best effort,
Speaker 1: I mean, is Arizona's best effort going to beat Philadelphia's
Speaker 1: best effort?
Speaker 3: That I don't know, but I will say their best
Speaker 3: effort beat the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They're still crazy. Yeah, so so yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: Carolina's one win came against Houston right, whose hot quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was their last loss until last week, which they that
Speaker 1: was a great game.
Speaker 3: And they lost it the last few seconds because fifty
Speaker 3: eight or fifty nine yard field goal didn't make it.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, and yet Philadelphia can hit a fifty nine
Speaker 1: yard field goal in the rain in overtime. They scored.
Speaker 3: They scored like twenty one points or something, you know,
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter on something crazy, I mean, or
Speaker 3: twenty it was.
Speaker 1: It was something crazy. Isn't it crazy that, speaking of crazy,
Speaker 1: that we are not knocked off our chairs anymore by
Speaker 1: like a fifty eight or a fifty nine yeard field goal. No.
Speaker 3: In fact, if you don't make it, what is wrong
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far. I'm saying, when a guy
Speaker 1: lines up for like a fifty one yarder, uh huh,
Speaker 1: you now expect him to make it right, right, you're
Speaker 1: surprised when he doesn't make it. I don't expect a
Speaker 1: guy to make a fifty nine yarder, uh huh. But
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, right. I mean Matt Gay he hit
Speaker 1: the upright right on a fifty eight yard trap yep
Speaker 1: this week, But that ball would have been good from
Speaker 1: sixty five if it was down the middle.
Speaker 3: He was kicking those during warm ups. So guys, you're
Speaker 3: watching that.
Speaker 1: So guys, you know, fifty nine yarder in the rain,
Speaker 1: you have to have it to force overtime, and he
Speaker 1: makes it. That's still a pretty amazing feat. But we're
Speaker 1: all like, hey, fifty nine yars field goal. I've seen it, sayes,
Speaker 1: I seen it. Yeah, and they're done that.
Speaker 3: You know, the winds blowing, it's cold, it's you know.
Speaker 1: To last year, the Bucks played the Panthers two games.
Speaker 1: It was their second game until they fired Matt Ruhle.
Speaker 1: I think they had just traded Christian McCaffrey and we're
Speaker 1: starting PJ. Walker at quarterback and we're I think, kind
Speaker 1: of banged up. And I remember being on your pregame
Speaker 1: radio show before then and trying to try to talk
Speaker 1: about it like it wasn't a foe gone conclusion. Right.
Speaker 1: We were three and three, they were one and five.
Speaker 1: We still had Tom Brady, they were starting PJ. Walker,
Speaker 1: and they just kicked our asses. Yeah, I remember he
Speaker 1: one to three.
Speaker 3: I think I remember talking to Carolina Radio and they
Speaker 3: were all going, this is going to be a blowout,
Speaker 3: this is going to be a blowout, and I'm not
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: And they were right. They were right. It was a blowout.
Speaker 3: This is the wrong side.
Speaker 1: So you can't take this team lightly. And now again
Speaker 1: they're coming off a change a coach. Will they rally
Speaker 1: around him. I think it's a little different than the
Speaker 1: last year because I think it was more like Josh mcdown's.
Speaker 1: I don't think Matt Rule was particularly well liked in
Speaker 1: the building, and so they did like Steve Wilkes. So
Speaker 1: when he got shot.
Speaker 3: They und he won five out of six games, something like.
Speaker 1: They won six of their last eleven. Yeah, so there
Speaker 1: you go. So it's just it's amazing. Well they went
Speaker 1: six and six overall with Steve Wilkes as the head coach,
Speaker 1: but they didn't weren't interested in keeping him.
Speaker 3: You know, it feels like it's been a long time
Speaker 3: since we played at Raymond James Stadium.
Speaker 1: It just feels like we played there once in the
Speaker 1: last five weeks, and we're gonna play there one time
Speaker 1: and then we're on the road again for two weeks,
Speaker 1: six six row games and then eight weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is this is you know, weird,
Speaker 3: very strange, but you got to win your games at home,
Speaker 3: and we won the last one at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Pretty, it would be very nice to get it again.
Speaker 3: And then, as the way the stars have been aligning,
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers, if they can pull off a win and
Speaker 3: then Atlanta and New Orleans looses, it's a three way
Speaker 3: tie in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Atlanta is at the Jets this week. Obviously the Jets
Speaker 1: have had their struggles, but they still have a great
Speaker 1: defense to you never know. New Orleans is at home
Speaker 1: but has a tough draw. Who they have the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they stumbled on Thanksgiving. H that's a
Speaker 1: good team. That's a good team. What was I gonna
Speaker 1: say before we stop? The Panthers and head coach thing
Speaker 1: I have. I just laugh when I see these articles
Speaker 1: about and sometimes it's just headlines and I don't even
Speaker 1: read them because I don't want to the fact that
Speaker 1: the Panthers have fired head coaches in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season two straight years and have gone through I
Speaker 1: think six coaches under their new owner, They're like, who's
Speaker 1: going to want to coach there? Who's who's going to
Speaker 1: take that head coaching job? I go, give me a break.
Speaker 1: If you're saying, hey, Sean Payton's available and he can
Speaker 1: pick and choose Bill Belichick, an established coach. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it. They might go No, I'm gonna wait
Speaker 1: for the for the next opportunity. Everybody else that gets
Speaker 1: hired as like a coordinator, like the Eagles, both their
Speaker 1: coordinators got hired after last year. Yeah, those guys aren't
Speaker 1: gonna turn down the job. It's your chance to be
Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL, and by the way,
Speaker 1: probably make about five million dollars a year.
Speaker 3: And what's even better is there's no place to go
Speaker 3: but up, so you can.
Speaker 1: Be a hero. If if any team is gonna pay
Speaker 1: me twenty five million dollars over five years to be
Speaker 1: a coach of a football team, I'm taking that job
Speaker 1: because those contracts are guaranteed. J C.
Speaker 3: The rumor that Greg Olsen wants to he'd be interested
Speaker 3: in being the head coach the tight end the former
Speaker 3: Bucks offensive coordinator, No, the tight end announcer for following.
Speaker 1: He'd be interested in the Panthers job. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Greg Olsen is a sharp guy, and I also
Speaker 1: think he's pretty good on broadcasts. Right, But who is
Speaker 1: that really the route you want to go. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're going to want somebody, just like
Speaker 1: they did a year ago. If you take a quarterback
Speaker 1: with the first pick in the draft, every other decision
Speaker 1: you make for several years is based on maximizing that decision. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you traded away a draft pick to move up. Oh,
Speaker 1: they traded away several draft picks. My friend, Chicago is
Speaker 1: all excited, right, they got it. They got a two
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know who they used it on. Chicago.
Speaker 1: They got a one from Chico. They gave up Chicago
Speaker 1: one next year, which right now would be the first
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Yeah, that's a hard go, right Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they also got like a two and twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. So it's good news, bad news. The Bears
Speaker 1: have got a first round pick. The bad news, Oh no,
Speaker 1: what do we do with the pick? Says the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: If they have the first overall pick, they're taking a quarterback.
Speaker 3: You think you think they're going to give up on
Speaker 3: Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it even called given up. It's
Speaker 1: just like, can you can you do that? Can? If
Speaker 1: you have the first pick in this draft, which has
Speaker 1: two very highly regarded quarterback prospects. Can you really justify
Speaker 1: saying we're not gonna do that, We're gonna try one
Speaker 1: more year because you don't know when you're gonna be
Speaker 1: in that position. Again, that's true.
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully you're not in the number one pick position,
Speaker 3: because that means you're losing a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in this case, they could be winning and
Speaker 1: still have the number one pick.
Speaker 3: Well, that's true, that's very and they won last.
Speaker 1: Night that I have never seen so many screen passes
Speaker 1: in one game month. It was getting to the point
Speaker 1: where it's saying, like, no way, they're not throwing another
Speaker 1: screen pass, you know, another screen.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they realize the rules are you
Speaker 3: can throw it down the field.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's there yet. Justin Field's finally
Speaker 1: hit one. I think the DJ more towards the end
Speaker 1: that put them in a position for the game winning field.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, it was just an x
Speaker 1: bus got an ex field goal kicker for the Bucks
Speaker 1: Cairo Santos. Yes, it's it's funny because the Josh Dobbs story,
Speaker 1: I mean, they did. Their offense was terrible too, Josh,
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Dobbs, kirk cousin God's Hurt gets hurt.
Speaker 1: They trade for Josh Dobbs from the Cardinals. He comes
Speaker 1: right in and they win a couple of games and
Speaker 1: he plays really well, and it was like, see, this
Speaker 1: guy should be a starter in the NFL. It's funny
Speaker 1: because when it was first there, he didn't know the
Speaker 1: and so a lot of the players when they start
Speaker 1: to break down, he just take off and run. It's
Speaker 1: almost like the fact that he's learning the offense more
Speaker 1: is making him less effective as a player. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's obviously a very smart guy. We know all the
Speaker 1: rocket science stuff. Sure well. One other way that the
Speaker 1: dismissal of Frank frank Reich could impact this game this
Speaker 1: weekend is now that Thomas Brown, their first year offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: is going to get the play calling duties back.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Frank took away from him.
Speaker 1: He Frank had it, then gave it to him for
Speaker 1: three games, and then a couple of weeks ago took
Speaker 1: it back. But now it will go. But they've said
Speaker 1: it's going to go back to Thomas Rombi because the
Speaker 1: head coach was the former special teams quarters and Jack
Speaker 1: Codwell is he's as senior advisor, so he'll be and
Speaker 1: he's had he has head coaching experience, Yeah, with Indian Detroit.
Speaker 1: Uh So that's another way that it affects the game
Speaker 1: that's a little more concrete than whether or not they'll
Speaker 1: get this uh new coach bounce or not. All right,
Speaker 1: what again next? I don't know. Well, this is completely
Speaker 1: out of order compared to what we were talking about. But
Speaker 1: that was an interesting defensive lineup that we started with
Speaker 1: because we'd been wondering if if Yaya Diabi was going
Speaker 1: to get more and more playing time and thought that
Speaker 1: there were some rumors going around here that he was
Speaker 1: going to start this game, which would probably be him
Speaker 1: starting over Joe try On Shayenka. But he did start
Speaker 1: the game, but so did Joe. We started with three
Speaker 1: outside linebackers on the field and Yah yah was I
Speaker 1: think he was. I'm not saying he was playing defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't on the edge. Barrett and Joe Tryon
Speaker 1: were still on the edge. He was a little bit
Speaker 1: more towards the middle, which is an indication that he's
Speaker 1: kind of a versatile player, and I know he's strong
Speaker 1: and good against the run. But more telling than the
Speaker 1: fact that he was on the field was that he
Speaker 1: played the most snaps of all the outside linebackers, more
Speaker 1: than Shack quite a bit more and Joe. Actually Anthony
Speaker 1: Nelson played more than Joe. He played the most. So
Speaker 1: it's just come to the point where they're like, we can't.
Speaker 1: We got to put him on the field. He just
Speaker 1: makes impact plays. He didn't have. I can't think of
Speaker 1: a big Yaya moment in this game. Did he have
Speaker 1: a couple of sacks? No, that was two games ago.
Speaker 1: Klijah Cantsey had a sack, and so did Joe. Joe
Speaker 1: came around got him. So between Kellijah and Yah, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of those guys is making an impact player to
Speaker 1: every single game.
Speaker 3: Speaking of sacks, Baker Mayfield, I think he got hit
Speaker 3: they six.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that until I was looking at
Speaker 3: the stat sheet and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh geez, this is right along the lines of what
Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier, where problems are getting fixed
Speaker 1: and then other ones are crying out. Last week against
Speaker 1: Tennessee his Forte not Tennessee San fran the four times
Speaker 1: he got sacked was the most he'd been sacked in
Speaker 1: the game all season and now this now it's sicks.
Speaker 1: He's been sacked thirteen times in the last three games.
Speaker 1: Before that, the Bucks were like second in the league
Speaker 1: in sex allowed for past playing. Now we're down to
Speaker 1: like fifth, and now that's a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if Tristan's one hundred percent, So
Speaker 3: there's that and that that makes a big difference. But
Speaker 3: I would just happen to think of the durability that
Speaker 3: that Baker has been showing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see this week. This will be a test.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because like he said, started felt bad at first,
Speaker 1: started to loosen up, right, but then you know, everybody
Speaker 1: knows who's had like especially an ankle injury. Well, sometimes
Speaker 1: you keep playing and you're fine, and then the game ends,
Speaker 1: you take the tape off, the adrenaline ebbs and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, how oh oh.
Speaker 3: The good news is the MRI proved negative, so that's
Speaker 3: a pause, so no ligament damage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's good. He's very sore. I bet I
Speaker 1: bet that he's very sore. That's what I'm saying. Oh, okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna bet whether he's gonna play or no. No, no,
Speaker 1: I I am. I just know that.
Speaker 3: It's like anything else, you hurt yourself and that oh
Speaker 3: I'm okay, and then the next day you go, oh,
Speaker 3: that's not too bad.
Speaker 1: The third day it's like, holy smokes, I wonder how
Speaker 1: much swelling he has. I did see him in the
Speaker 1: building today walking around a little bit, so I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say I really paid attention to him. Was walking well,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. Yeah, he didn't walk. Yeah, you you
Speaker 1: didn't go I think actually I didn't see. No.
Speaker 3: Usually you notice that even if you're not looking, you
Speaker 3: notice it.
Speaker 1: What Well, Anyway, if I are a betting man, i'd
Speaker 1: say he which you're not, and you don't. I'm not
Speaker 1: because I can't. He probably fights through it, right, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: tap it up. He's gonna he's gonna give it a shot.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give it a shot.
Speaker 3: I did find it interesting that they had Kyle Trask
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: They kept him warmed up on the sideline every time.
Speaker 3: He was constantly up throwing the ball when when in,
Speaker 3: which sounds smart, which was very smart. That's what I
Speaker 3: was saying, is you know, don't wait until you know
Speaker 3: you need him to come in when you think something.
Speaker 1: Could be be wrong.
Speaker 3: You you know, you keep them ready, so you know, maybe.
Speaker 1: Go back on. Yeah, yeah, because I wasn't done with that. Sorry.
Speaker 1: And more even than the fact that he played the
Speaker 1: most snaps there, the Bucks put out their new depth chart.
Speaker 1: They put a new one out each week and sometimes
Speaker 1: there's no changes. Quite a few changes this week, and
Speaker 1: one of them was that Yahya is now listed first,
Speaker 1: really ahead of Joe yep. See, I didn't when did
Speaker 1: you let me see this? When did all those highlighted
Speaker 1: parts are things that changed, which I'll talk about here
Speaker 1: in a second. All right, So.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, Okay, Ryan Neil's back.
Speaker 1: Huh but that part never changed.
Speaker 3: Okay, the yellow or your orange is well, that's not right,
Speaker 3: give it back, yeah, explain it, I sees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this one is because Kim Jarrett was there
Speaker 1: and he's on I R. So he's gone. We all
Speaker 1: know that Aaron Stinny has replaced Matt Feiler as the
Speaker 1: starting left guard, but now they officially made that move
Speaker 1: on the depth charge. With David Wells also off and
Speaker 1: back to the practice squad. They for some reason moved
Speaker 1: Payne Durham from behind Kokeef to behind Kate Otten, and
Speaker 1: then they switched the last two running backs, so Seawan
Speaker 1: Tucker's back to third and Kishon Van is fourth, which
Speaker 1: makes sense because Shawn's been active the last three games
Speaker 1: and keisha On is not. Now Sewn hasn't gotten any
Speaker 1: carries or offensive snaps, but at least he plays on
Speaker 1: special teams, which is important. I told you we added
Speaker 1: j J. Russell and Keenan Isaac because they got promoted
Speaker 1: to the active Roskins past week. But the interesting another
Speaker 1: interesting one is that they finally Dee Delaney had been
Speaker 1: listed on one of the corner back lines even though
Speaker 1: he was primarily playing safety, and Christian Izzien had been
Speaker 1: listing with the safeties because that's what he was known
Speaker 1: now in college, but he's been playing nickel corner slot corner,
Speaker 1: so now they switch them and Christians listed as a cornerback.
Speaker 3: So I you know, I think it's interesting that everybody
Speaker 3: talked about who's starting, who's starting, and the way we
Speaker 3: rotate all the time. It just means you're starting, but
Speaker 3: it's not like back in the day where if you
Speaker 3: were starting, you were there all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of rotation here. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: teams play a lot more nickel too, because they have
Speaker 1: to because posing off is play a lot more right
Speaker 1: eleven personnel. But anyway, yeah, yeah, officially, even though they
Speaker 1: like to call depth charts unofficial, officially listed as the starter.
Speaker 1: So his great rookie season continues. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I thought was weird? Did you guys in your radio
Speaker 1: booth think it was weird? The pace that the Colts
Speaker 1: went on at the end of the first half, You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They got the ball back with
Speaker 1: what two minutes left, and they just didn't seem to
Speaker 1: be urged at all.
Speaker 3: And they were getting the ball after the half too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they were Yeah, they had no sense of urgency
Speaker 3: at that point.
Speaker 1: They got the ball with one forty four left at
Speaker 1: their twenty.
Speaker 3: And we still could it when we had timeouts and
Speaker 3: did not call a timeout, wasted.
Speaker 1: Twenty something until there were fourteen seconds left. It was
Speaker 1: third and ten at the forty seven. They had all
Speaker 1: three of their timeouts. Yeah, they didn't use any of them. No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they had only had two, but they had two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they snapped. They snapped the first play at one forty four, right,
Speaker 1: and then the next time they didn't snap it was
Speaker 1: a sixteen yard run. Didn't even snap the next one
Speaker 1: until one fifteen. That's twenty nine seconds. The play itself
Speaker 1: probably took eight seconds. Yeah, and then they didn't snap.
Speaker 1: Then they snapped again a fifty one converted a second
Speaker 1: and eight on third down pass. Now they're at their
Speaker 1: own forty seven and didn't snap again until twenty six seconds. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The first place started at fifty one, the second one,
Speaker 1: and they had two time outs left at that point. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they got to a point where they had just
Speaker 1: completed a fourth and three pass to Michael Pittman, but
Speaker 1: it was there was only two seconds left, right, so
Speaker 1: they just basically had to try a fifty eight yard
Speaker 1: field goal. And I didn't know if you guys were
Speaker 1: talking about that in your booth or not. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we were wondering why they were letting so much clock
Speaker 1: time go. I mean, I was glad they did. I
Speaker 1: just didn't get it. Yeah, No, we we did.
Speaker 3: We did, especially the one where it was like twenty
Speaker 3: nine seconds that they burned for no reason. You can
Speaker 3: always just snap the spike the ball or just call
Speaker 3: your time out.
Speaker 1: Us your timeout. So I'm saying, after you've used your timeouts.
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, their their field goal kickers
Speaker 3: got a pretty strong leg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made the distance that probably would have been
Speaker 1: good from fifty six because you curved the ball. Yep, yep,
Speaker 1: he'd goinked it. Yep.
Speaker 3: No question, which was, uh, yeah, I don't know anymore.
Speaker 3: You know, people get really upset that you go into
Speaker 3: the half with your with your timeouts, and I understand it.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't get to carry them over.
Speaker 1: Well, they did use them, they just didn't use them
Speaker 1: proper enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's their issue.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if you've heard me. I got
Speaker 1: on this rant again last week right here around the office.
Speaker 1: The NFL started a new rule and it's actually only
Speaker 1: being used for one year and then they'll decide if
Speaker 1: they want to keep it. That you can, like in college,
Speaker 1: on a kickoff, you can call for a fair catch
Speaker 1: inside the twenty.
Speaker 3: Five and get it on the twenty five, get it
Speaker 3: on twenty five.
Speaker 1: And I was saying, why aren't teams doing.
Speaker 3: That, because I don't think they understand it.
Speaker 1: So the first bucks, first ten games, I'm not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent sure of this, but my memory is that
Speaker 1: we did it once and our opponents did it once
Speaker 1: in ten games. Now, if you take all the teams
Speaker 1: in the league right now, the average kickoff drive start.
Speaker 1: Actually this was heading into last weekend, but I doubt
Speaker 1: it changed much. The average start of a drive after
Speaker 1: a kickoff was the twenty five point one yard line.
Speaker 1: You can achieve that just by fair catching it. And
Speaker 1: then you don't risk out fumble. You don't risk a
Speaker 1: penalty that makes you start at ten. Yep, you don't
Speaker 1: risk a crappy return where he stopped at the fifteen.
Speaker 1: Just take the twenty five yard line. It's funny.
Speaker 3: Gene talked about that a couple of times, like, hey,
Speaker 3: why aren't we doing this?
Speaker 1: There's been two kickoff returns for touchdowns this entire year.
Speaker 1: The average kickoff return across the entire NFL is about
Speaker 1: twenty two yards, So unless you're catching the ball at
Speaker 1: the ten, you're not getting past the twenty five. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I get it. If like when we played Houston and
Speaker 1: dari Ogumbawale had to come in and kick, and at
Speaker 1: least one of his kickoffs was kind of a line dry,
Speaker 1: so you figure, okay, I got time to get up
Speaker 1: some speed here. I get that I'm not saying never returning, right,
Speaker 1: but almost ever return Just you won't get injured, you
Speaker 1: won't fumble, you won't get a pillion. It makes you
Speaker 1: start to ten. You just waste clock time and you'll
Speaker 1: be right where you would have been anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the twenty five yard line, and you're saving yourselves.
Speaker 1: Clock time too. I didn't even think, Yeah, there you go,
Speaker 1: you're welcome. That's my rant. So in this last game
Speaker 1: we bill each team called one yes, so I'm like, okay, progress, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those quirky rules that I
Speaker 3: don't I just don't think the players remember it well
Speaker 3: they're I mean.
Speaker 1: You should be reminding out there as you walk out.
Speaker 3: Say oh, by the way, if you're fair catching it.
Speaker 1: If it's if, if it's a high kick, if it's
Speaker 1: a fair catch catch, because they make the decision, don't
Speaker 1: don't return it unless it's a low hang time kick,
Speaker 1: if it's a average, if it's a good hangtime or
Speaker 1: a great hangtime kick, just call the fair catch.
Speaker 3: What did you think about the almost not fair catch
Speaker 3: fair catch that everybody wasn't that close. I don't know
Speaker 3: he was playing with fire. Yeah, because that's a penalty.
Speaker 3: That's a penalty if you claim fair catch and then
Speaker 3: and then take the.
Speaker 1: Ball and run. Well, why didn't he get a penalty?
Speaker 3: Then that was why the fans were booing. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: why the Colts fans were booing because they.
Speaker 1: Couldn't want to say, hey, I was just running towards
Speaker 1: the sideline.
Speaker 3: Parent over apparently did. But that was it was. That
Speaker 3: was a questionable.
Speaker 1: Oh he called it at the last second and then
Speaker 1: took you Well, no, he he had it like and
Speaker 1: then he pulled it down and took the ball and ran. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he called it, but it was really late.
Speaker 3: It was a question, no question.
Speaker 1: My theory was that he wasn't sure if if they
Speaker 1: had given him the fair.
Speaker 3: And the fans that's why they were booing and yelling. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, always something.
Speaker 1: Fans always think the call is wrong mis against thirteen.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it is, there's no question. That's that's how it works.
Speaker 3: So anyways, what else you got.
Speaker 1: Did you see? Well, I guess we could talk about
Speaker 1: Carolina a little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, we can save that. I want to know your
Speaker 3: elevator story.
Speaker 1: It's not that great of a story. It's just there's
Speaker 1: if we've if you've never heard us talk about this before.
Speaker 1: At a lot of stadiums, there's a certain there are
Speaker 1: certain elevators where that are. So there's a coach's booth
Speaker 1: right and half your staff or whatever is up there,
Speaker 1: and they want those guys to be able to get
Speaker 1: down quickly to the locker room after the game. So
Speaker 1: most stadiums will have an elevator to where they've you've
Speaker 1: got it. You can't get on if you're not a coach.
Speaker 1: They got it blocked off. They wait for the coaches
Speaker 1: and they go down. So if you're a media member
Speaker 1: or something and that's the only elevator, you just have
Speaker 1: to wait. There was a set of elevators right by
Speaker 1: the press box, that's what we came up it was,
Speaker 1: and it also emptied out very close to the locker room,
Speaker 1: but they were very slow. There's like nine floors and
Speaker 1: they would commonly stop at all of them. And so
Speaker 1: I knew of another elevator that was past your radio booth.
Speaker 1: If you kept going and going almost all the end zone,
Speaker 1: there was two more elevators down there because they have
Speaker 1: an auxiliary press box by the end because they had
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl there, so I'm like, okay, I bet
Speaker 1: you I could go down there and that'll be faster.
Speaker 1: So I did, and this is at I left, like
Speaker 1: two minutes left. I left right after the fumble that
Speaker 1: ended the game to get down to the locker room
Speaker 1: in the press conference room. I get there to those
Speaker 1: two elevators and they're holding one of them for coaches.
Speaker 1: I don't know why there were coaches down there too,
Speaker 1: but there were. I guess the panther. I guess the
Speaker 1: Colts coaches went that way and maybe the Ducks coaches
Speaker 1: went the other way, so they don't share the elevator.
Speaker 1: So there was only one elevator, and it took about
Speaker 1: eight minutes to arrive. And then I get on and
Speaker 1: it's stopping at every floor. And then we get down
Speaker 1: like we were on like floor eight, and it stopped
Speaker 1: at five, and there was one straggler of a coach
Speaker 1: who hadn't made the original group so was on our
Speaker 1: elevator and wanted the elevator operator to take it straight down,
Speaker 1: which she should have, which you're all about, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I wanted to. And it goes down a fire
Speaker 1: and then suddenly, for some reason, goes back up a
Speaker 1: level and opens up again, and there's people at every
Speaker 1: floor that want to get on, but the were packed
Speaker 1: so they can't. So that whole ordeal, it probably took
Speaker 1: me twelve or thirteen minutes to get down to the locker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did make it in time to get to Baker's
Speaker 1: interview and then the but it was close. Man.
Speaker 3: No, it is uh, that is a very very.
Speaker 1: That is there. It's a hard part of this judge well,
Speaker 1: trying to get down to the locker room.
Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of a lot unfortunately. Some
Speaker 3: you know, most of the time it's not just a
Speaker 3: press elevator. Some stadiums will have just a press elevator,
Speaker 3: but this particular.
Speaker 1: Thing, it's and everybody elevator.
Speaker 3: Now, there is a freight elevator to the other side,
Speaker 3: but this is also a suite holder's elevator because it
Speaker 3: stops at the street level and then and then then
Speaker 3: the last place you stop is event level, event level,
Speaker 3: which is under locker rooms underground.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, that that particular stadium. I've learned to
Speaker 3: know wet elevators are fast and slow in each stadium.
Speaker 3: But you're right, it is frustrating and you're just trying
Speaker 3: to get it done.
Speaker 1: Ours at our Stateium. It's not really that big of
Speaker 1: a deal because the elevators that the coaches go down
Speaker 1: are Sweet elevators.
Speaker 3: Yes, and there's six of those.
Speaker 1: And most of the people trying to know there's three.
Speaker 3: Three were the Sweet elevators.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's correct. Think of the lobby. The people that
Speaker 1: are most of the people that are trying to use
Speaker 1: those elevators are Sweet holders or people from the with
Speaker 1: club seats, and they're just as important as anybody else.
Speaker 1: But they're not necessarily in a huge hurry, right, So
Speaker 1: it's not that big of a deal if they have
Speaker 1: to wait a few minutes, whereas if you're trying to
Speaker 1: get to the locker room or the press comings room
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be kind of nerve wrecking. I've actually
Speaker 1: gone down the stairs on the other side of the fact,
Speaker 1: you really want to go. I didn't enjoy that experience though. Anyway. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was That wasn't a great elevator Story's sure. Sure
Speaker 1: it wasn't the Superdome, No, but it made.
Speaker 3: You think of the Superdome. You longed for the Superdome
Speaker 3: after that.
Speaker 1: Look at this that I found on the play by play,
Speaker 1: what's that did? Right here? Look? Look look right here, Fries.
Speaker 1: Look look at the name above it.
Speaker 3: Oh, French Fries, French Fries.
Speaker 1: That's the Indianapolis Colts. I don't know. Might be pronounced freeze,
Speaker 1: but with their starting center out the center for the
Speaker 1: game was Wesley French and the right guard is Will
Speaker 1: it's spelled Fries. So right here on the play by play,
Speaker 1: it says French Fries. I told Max that this morning
Speaker 1: when I discovered it, and it took him two seconds
Speaker 1: to find a picture of them standing together. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: Sick it off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'm just saying that you never can
Speaker 3: go wrong with French Fries.
Speaker 1: So I'm betting it's pronounced freeze, but you could be
Speaker 1: Fries the Salty Dogs. I'm sorry, we're changing your name.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I think I'm done. Man, you got you
Speaker 1: got that much this see my note.
Speaker 3: A little bit of Carolina Panthers again.
Speaker 1: This is a big game.
Speaker 3: It's a oh we got moved from one o'clock. So
Speaker 3: oh yeah, in the Bay Area, don't don't look at
Speaker 3: your schedule. Well, if you look at the Bucks app
Speaker 3: to get we'll have the correct time, but we are
Speaker 3: we are at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you print if you printed out a schedule
Speaker 1: earlier this year, you have to trust I did that.
Speaker 3: I reached out my counterpart to grab one of their
Speaker 3: people to do our pregame show, and I wrote, yeah,
Speaker 3: need them at ten forty five and no, no, no, And
Speaker 3: he came back and goes, you mean, oh, yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1: Would be it, that would be the Yeah, we got flexed.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this last week though.
Speaker 3: We don't so, But anyways, it's a big game.
Speaker 1: It's a game that it's big game for us.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, as you know what, when you're
Speaker 3: one in ten, it's a big game for them.
Speaker 1: Too, But it's not necessarily the biggest game on the
Speaker 1: schedule for the network. No, no, that would be my point.
Speaker 3: Right, And what time? What time does everybody else plays
Speaker 3: at once?
Speaker 1: So we'll know New Orleans, New Orleans and Atlanta Atlanta
Speaker 1: they play early, I think. So okay, So that's that.
Speaker 1: So Mike Evans gets the two touchdowns, right, gets him
Speaker 1: to ninety on his career. Ninety. Yeah, he's the fifteenth
Speaker 1: player in the entire history of the NFL to get
Speaker 1: to ninety touchdowns get to fourteen, he is one more.
Speaker 1: Tied at thirteenth right now is DeVante Adams and Isaac Bruce.
Speaker 1: Two more.
Speaker 3: He's getting two this week.
Speaker 1: Well, Davante is still playing, so he could conceivably also
Speaker 1: improve his total.
Speaker 3: All right, well, Mike's gonna get three.
Speaker 1: Oh, so that would make him tied for thirteenth with
Speaker 1: those two if Davante doesn't get anymore, but he would
Speaker 1: at least be a tied with It's pretty, pretty darn
Speaker 1: and impressive, Isaac. It's amazing the names. Every time he
Speaker 1: takes another spot out. It's like another holiday, it is.
Speaker 1: But people, a lot of people don't remember that. Mike
Speaker 1: Evans also scored on a fumble recovery in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: I believe. So he has ninety one career touchdowns, which
Speaker 1: is about I don't know if the top of my
Speaker 1: head thirty sixth or something, because we're talking all touchdowns now.
Speaker 1: You got guys like guys like that running back. But
Speaker 1: the group that Mike is tied in right now with
Speaker 1: for total touchdowns. Listen to these names, Devonte Adams, Isaac Bruce,
Speaker 1: Tony dor Set, wow Edgrin, James, Bobby Mitchell, and Ricky Waters. Wow,
Speaker 1: two bads.
Speaker 3: You don't have any good players there.
Speaker 1: Wow, man, I know that's great company Tony dor Set
Speaker 1: and Edgerrin James. You scored as many touchdowns as those guys.
Speaker 1: Ricky Waters was a fantastic player for a long time,
Speaker 1: very much so a company that he's talking about.
Speaker 3: Tony dor Set, I mean said they were winning back
Speaker 3: then too, So you know, holding smokes.
Speaker 1: As far as Carolina, there's an interesting vagary in their rankings.
Speaker 1: You'd probably be surprised to hear the Carolina ranks sixth
Speaker 1: in the league in defense, really allowing three hundred and
Speaker 1: four point five yards per game. Wow. However, what about scoring?
Speaker 1: They're thirtieth in points allowed twenty six, which is more
Speaker 1: important obviously, How does that work? I guess from looking
Speaker 1: at this you would deduced that one there near the
Speaker 1: bottom and turnover differential at negative seven. So they've probably
Speaker 1: created some short fields for opposing offenses, so you know,
Speaker 1: you get a thirty yard touchdown drive. You don't get
Speaker 1: a lot of yards, but you get the points right.
Speaker 1: And then also the fact that their red zone defense
Speaker 1: is second to last, so when teams get down there,
Speaker 1: they almost always score a touchdown. Okay, but that's a
Speaker 1: weird split. Yeah, very strange, but it does indicate they
Speaker 1: do have a pretty good amount of defensive talent. Brian
Speaker 1: Burns is very good, Derek Brown is pretty strong. Frankie
Speaker 1: Louvu has turned into a the next great Panthers linebackers.
Speaker 1: They've always had great linebackers. This guy kind of came
Speaker 1: out of nowhere last year. I think Jeremy Chin's been
Speaker 1: an IR, but he might be coming back. They should
Speaker 1: be getting jac hornback from IR pretty soon. They've they've
Speaker 1: got some talent on defense, they probably need some more
Speaker 1: cast catchers. Adam Thielen is first on the team with
Speaker 1: seventy seven catches, although he's only averaging nine point five
Speaker 1: because they're really just not getting the ball downfield much.
Speaker 1: The next guy on the list has twenty eight. Wow,
Speaker 1: there's two guys wons, a receiver on a running back,
Speaker 1: so they don't have a great second option beyond theland,
Speaker 1: and Delan's only averaging a career low nine point five
Speaker 1: yards per catch. So I think it's fair to say
Speaker 1: they could use some more pass catching talent on offense,
Speaker 1: and they probably will be addressing that this offseason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when you talk about Derek Brown, Shy Tunnel's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Brian Burns is good, Frankie Luvu's good, Von Bell is good,
Speaker 1: Dante Jackson, They've got some good players. It's Troy Hill
Speaker 1: the safety. You know, this is not there. The Bucks
Speaker 1: aren't just going to walk over this team. Nobody has.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they beat them. I'm I'm not claiming I know
Speaker 1: they will, but they're definitely not just gonna walk over them.
Speaker 3: You gotta take care of your own business and you
Speaker 3: got to play the game. And that's and that seems
Speaker 3: to be the message right now is take care of business.
Speaker 3: Let's get it done.
Speaker 1: All right, you're ready for some emails? Okay? If he
Speaker 1: didn't seem sure, no I am.
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of stretching there.
Speaker 1: I stood a lot. I stood the whole.
Speaker 3: Game, this game, so it always messes up.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, last week we read a question from our
Speaker 1: friend in Brazil, Alexander, and he was saying he made
Speaker 1: kind of a cute wordplay about how the Bucks were
Speaker 1: refusing to hit their quarterback. I thought he meant they
Speaker 1: didn't sack him. Yeah, but he says, oh my, I
Speaker 1: forgot to wish you guys are happy Thanksgiving. This came
Speaker 1: in on Thanksgiving, and.
Speaker 3: Do we remember Thanksgiving is an American.
Speaker 1: Yeah holiday, it's not a Brazilian Yeah no, So it's
Speaker 1: nice of him to wish yes, thank you And about
Speaker 1: hitting the QB. I was referring to a play where
Speaker 1: Perty was running to the sideline for a first down
Speaker 1: and three Bucks players. I recall Josh Hayes being one
Speaker 1: of them running towards him but not going to the tackle.
Speaker 1: You know, I would. I can't picture that play in
Speaker 1: my mind, but I'm sure they were trying not to
Speaker 1: draw a penalty, correct, although there nobody was throwing the
Speaker 1: penalty in that game as we discuss. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: this one is from Patrick from Landa Lakes. We know
Speaker 1: where that is. This could be a first time email er.
Speaker 1: I don't recognize the name or remember. Ohoy. I hope
Speaker 1: you both had a great Thanksgiving. I did when sitting
Speaker 1: at the dinner table and thinking about what I am
Speaker 1: most thankful for. At the top of my list had
Speaker 1: to be the fact that the Bucks are in the
Speaker 1: NFC South. It is such a weird feeling. As soon
Speaker 1: as the clock hit zero on Sunday and the Bucks
Speaker 1: had officially gone one and six in the last seven games.
Speaker 1: That the first thought that went into my head was, well,
Speaker 1: we're still only one game back from first place in
Speaker 1: the division. I like, I considered myself an optimist, which
Speaker 1: can be a blessing and a curse. But honestly, he
Speaker 1: said that on me. But I honestly believe the Bucks
Speaker 1: could go on a run here in the upcoming weeks
Speaker 1: and could be seven and seven by the Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: game with the Jacks. Jacks, that would mean wins. I'm
Speaker 1: interjecting here, that would mean wins over Carolina, Atlanta and
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Yeah, the latter two on the road. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My question to you all is, of all the issues
Speaker 1: that have hindered the Bucks during this stretch, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: is the thing that needs to be corrected the most
Speaker 1: or the quickest I think. I think one of the
Speaker 1: biggest issues is costly drops, especially in the red zone.
Speaker 1: I know it was just outside, but from the camera
Speaker 1: angle with his speed, I felt that drop by Trey
Speaker 1: Trey Palmer on that post route in the second half
Speaker 1: could have gone for six had he brought it in.
Speaker 1: Enjoy listening to your podcast and said, since you did,
Speaker 1: thanks for reading this. Patrick from Landelakes. Thanks Patrick. It's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to pick the biggest one, right. I
Speaker 1: would have said, no running game, but now we got it.
Speaker 1: You had a great one. You had a great running
Speaker 1: game in that game, and it didn't didn't change the outcome.
Speaker 1: We haven't had a too many turnovers. We've had a
Speaker 1: big turn of a problem. Red zone I guess right,
Speaker 1: red zone offense. Red zone offense is you gotta score
Speaker 1: the you gotta score the seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I I don't know how you fix it,
Speaker 3: but I just not concentration. But it just seems like
Speaker 3: someone takes to turn a being out of place. And
Speaker 3: Jack Barrett was talking about that, which is you know,
Speaker 3: you got eleven guys on there. One person messes up
Speaker 3: on a play and changes everything.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he This isn't a bad choice
Speaker 1: by Patrick. Drops have been an issue, right, especially if
Speaker 1: you consider both sides of the ball and not holding
Speaker 1: on interception.
Speaker 3: Not only are they drops, but there drops on big
Speaker 3: plays that your team needed at that time, which you
Speaker 3: can isolate out of sixty five plays or whatever, those
Speaker 3: few you go, wow if you would have made those,
Speaker 3: But that's the game, you know, So yes.
Speaker 1: Tough to put. Tough to pick one, but maybe red
Speaker 1: zone for me, red zone offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with I'm going with everybody, stay on
Speaker 3: the same page.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna So, just an inability to go
Speaker 1: through a whole game without too many crucial mistakes.
Speaker 3: Correct, Okay, don't beat yourself.
Speaker 1: All right. This one is from Don Little in Orlando.
Speaker 1: All right, ahoy ye, old salty dogs. I was concerned
Speaker 1: that you might be short of questions after getting the loss,
Speaker 1: so I'm offering this email. Thank you winky emoji. I
Speaker 1: like this isn't really a question, but more of a
Speaker 1: follow up to a pass question, mostly for Jeff all right.
Speaker 1: Sunday was one of those days for me living in
Speaker 1: Orlando where the Jacksonville Jaguars were televis on CBS over
Speaker 1: the Bucks. As a result, I had to listen to
Speaker 1: the game on Bucks radio. Well, thank you. I did,
Speaker 1: like Jeff instructed and went to the Buccaneers, went to
Speaker 1: Buccaneers dot com on my PC and ultimately ultimately selected
Speaker 1: then a rock listen live button. The radio stream worked
Speaker 1: fine for me on what was Shirley On what Sureley
Speaker 1: was a black dot game in my area. I'm unsure
Speaker 1: if this bypasses the geo fencing issues Jeff has discussed,
Speaker 1: but thought you might like the feedback. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, well it's interesting and I'm glad you brought this up.
Speaker 3: Is I found out through the league that if you'd
Speaker 3: come off of your desktop, it's not geo blocked, so
Speaker 3: he would still be in. The good news is because
Speaker 3: if he was on the app, he would have been
Speaker 3: geo blocked, but because he was on his desktop it
Speaker 3: is not.
Speaker 1: Does this mean the guy in Germany the test about
Speaker 1: this could be so so he needs to try it.
Speaker 1: I think he wanted to watch the game though. Oh
Speaker 1: well that's another thing.
Speaker 3: But it's better and what's happening what's unfortunately, what's what's
Speaker 3: happening here is we've had a number of games this year.
Speaker 3: We have half of our games on CBS, So if
Speaker 3: the Jags are playing at the same time, the Orlando
Speaker 3: market is grabbing that game because that TV station can
Speaker 3: choose which one of those they take. Had we been
Speaker 3: just a Fox game, we would have we would have
Speaker 3: made it. So that's that's very frustrating and I'm sorry
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, This one's from Daniel Dan Da Maria
Speaker 1: and Palm Harbor. Okay O, Hoy salty dogs. I hope
Speaker 1: you guys had a great Thanksgiving just like I did.
Speaker 1: I want to give a praise to Baker Mayfield for
Speaker 1: being a trooper and playing out of ban ankle and
Speaker 1: finishing the game. I'm with you, I'm totally with you. Also,
Speaker 1: I want to praise Mike Evans for another great game.
Speaker 1: He just gets better every game. There's still six games
Speaker 1: to play and four in the South, so there's still
Speaker 1: a chance to win the division, yes, and make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: My question is who holds the Bucks record for most
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns in a season and who holds the record
Speaker 1: for most receiving yards in a season? And all I
Speaker 1: will say is, don't think don't overthink this. Don't overthink this, bro,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, who do you think it is? It's even yeah.
Speaker 3: I started to I started to run through different wide
Speaker 3: receivers and then I was like, no, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: that's that's gotta be Mike.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the exact numbers off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, and you can you can verify I'm
Speaker 1: not looking anything wrong. No, I understand. I think his
Speaker 1: record for receiving yards is fifteen twenty four. Huh, And
Speaker 1: I think his record for touchdown catches is thirteen and
Speaker 1: so the answer is fifteen twenty four in twenty eighteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: and oh I was wrong. He had fourteen touchdown catches
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Wow, he had thirteen and twenty
Speaker 1: twenty and twelve each and sixteen and fourteen. Wow. Those
Speaker 1: are the four top The next on the list is
Speaker 1: Mike Williams of eleven in twenty ten. Those are the
Speaker 1: four top touchdown receptions seasons in team history. So he
Speaker 1: not only has the record, he has the three. That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got one more thing with our buddy in Orlando.
Speaker 3: There is a radio station that carries it. It's it's
Speaker 3: oh gosh, well.
Speaker 1: Job, good job. I mean I talked to. Is there
Speaker 1: somewhere on the site where listening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you go to Buccaneers dot com, it'll show
Speaker 3: you where where it is.
Speaker 1: It's the game. It's that's the nickname, that's the name
Speaker 1: of the of it. It's it's the four point two
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's on an FM and an AM real
Speaker 3: where would this be on our website?
Speaker 1: I don't know where that. Wow.
Speaker 3: Anyways, it's easy. It's the sports station in Orlando.
Speaker 1: There you go. How's that?
Speaker 3: It's called the game. You'll find it, Okay, just google
Speaker 3: it and it'll pop up.
Speaker 1: Great, googlely, movelely. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, but you could listen to them in your car
Speaker 3: or you know, if you're out and about, you're not
Speaker 3: tied to your computer. So that that is the plus
Speaker 3: side about in Orlando. We have affiliates in Orlando, and.
Speaker 1: They got them all over the state, don't you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fort Myers games ninety six point nine. There you go,
Speaker 1: ninety six point ninety six point nine. There you go.
Speaker 1: The game, the game. So yeah. Mike Evans is the
Speaker 1: all time leader for the Bucks and touchdowns, touchdown catches, catches,
Speaker 1: yard receiving, yards, yards from scrimmage. Uh, the the single
Speaker 1: season leader and catches yards, touchdowns. He's the greatest offensive
Speaker 1: player in the mysteries. I think you could go with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's as much as I love guys
Speaker 1: like Mike alstot No. I got you, I got you. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, what else? Next question? Your next question? All right? Wow?
Speaker 1: Coming in strong. He finishes by saying, I hope we
Speaker 1: went on Sunday. Yeah, me too, to get some winning
Speaker 1: mojo back. Yeah, I'm with you, Mojoe.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't have a streak unless you get one.
Speaker 1: Go all right? Uh This is from Jerry uh in Maryland.
Speaker 1: I keep getting emails that are popping up. In front
Speaker 1: of the emails, I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To read, Oh well you're a busy man.
Speaker 1: Greetings dogs. Not the result we were hoping for against
Speaker 1: the Colts on Sunday, but I still have hope that
Speaker 1: we can win the South. I believe this team has
Speaker 1: the fight talent a death to turn it around. Great
Speaker 1: to see the young guys flying around making plays. Also
Speaker 1: loved seeing the all pewter uniforms. Yeah, I like that too.
Speaker 1: I like them too, but I will admit that I've
Speaker 1: heard some people who are not fond of them.
Speaker 3: Really, I thought they was pretty cool internally, You're no,
Speaker 3: just outside Definitely not internally. They didn't like them.
Speaker 1: They like it, just didn't like them. Man. Wow. So
Speaker 1: my question for this week is based around that I
Speaker 1: always thought that teams cannot both wear dark color jerseys,
Speaker 1: so of course the Coles wore blue jerseys. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: that change when the NFL started doing the color rush
Speaker 1: games or was it never rule? And I'm tripping one time?
Speaker 1: One time it was r right, it did change because
Speaker 1: of color rush, right, yes, Like remember we played the
Speaker 1: Condiment game where we were in all red and the
Speaker 1: Rams were in all yellow.
Speaker 3: The reason, and we've talked about this before, the reason
Speaker 3: why one team was in a dark uniform and one
Speaker 3: team was in a light uniform is because games were
Speaker 3: on black and white TVs and that's how you could
Speaker 3: tell the.
Speaker 1: Difference between the two teams. So I'm serious, that's why
Speaker 1: I know you explained that multiple times. Yeah, so I guess.
Speaker 3: That that would be I still I still go with
Speaker 3: the advent of color But other than colour rush games,
Speaker 3: teams do.
Speaker 1: So you're told at the beginning of the year what
Speaker 1: the home teams are wearing, and you have to wear
Speaker 1: the opposite. So if they if we're going to play
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they're wearing blue, we can't.
Speaker 3: Wear now maybe that maybe they got away with it
Speaker 3: because they're wearing white pants.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's the jersey that matters. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure this is only acceptable when a team is wearing
Speaker 1: a color rush. It did look weird. We talked about
Speaker 1: the before the game, and some guys I was sitting
Speaker 1: here was like, this would look better if the Colts
Speaker 1: had white jerseys on.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it was weird that it was on
Speaker 3: the road and.
Speaker 1: Not at home. That is weird, right, Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: that was that was But maybe they could and I
Speaker 1: don't know anyway. Next question is from Phillips Squadron. It
Speaker 1: was in California, Okay, dear s Dogs. What can a
Speaker 1: Bucks fan salvage from a one in six records since
Speaker 1: starting three and one? What positives can we extract from
Speaker 1: such a disappointing couple of months. The answer is Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: Watching this guy play at an elite level for ten
Speaker 1: years now, no matter what the win loss record is,
Speaker 1: is our privilege to watch. He played his hard last
Speaker 1: week as he did in the Super Bowl, and he
Speaker 1: played his herd in the super Bowl as he did
Speaker 1: in his two and fourteen rookie season. I find myself
Speaker 1: celebrating his catches, touchdowns and climb into the top ten
Speaker 1: all time receivers with as much enthusiasm enthusiasm as if
Speaker 1: we were ten to one, ten and one. Keep on
Speaker 1: focus on Mike Salty ones. This is a time for
Speaker 1: his individual achievement. Phil Squadron, Woodland Hills, California. I'd like
Speaker 1: to be able to do both. Can we do both?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's time we do both.
Speaker 1: I mean, we are celebrating Mike. I'm gonna write and
Speaker 1: we might even do a video highlighting the catch assuming
Speaker 1: he gets to a thousand, because he's one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty more, which, barring injury, he will definitely make it.
Speaker 1: I'll probably get it this game. The catch that sends
Speaker 1: him over one thousand in every season. I already pinpointed
Speaker 1: all of them. Some of them are more interesting than others,
Speaker 1: like the one couple of years ago. Was that the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl year when he slipped on he got to
Speaker 1: one thousand and one right before halftime and then he
Speaker 1: was thrown passing the end zone and he slipped and
Speaker 1: hurt his knees and was out for the rest of
Speaker 1: the game. And it was a good thing he made
Speaker 1: it over on the previous catch because it but some
Speaker 1: of them he goes by in week eleven and it's
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. But anyway, we will continue
Speaker 1: to celebrate Mike. You can bet you can bet that. Yep.
Speaker 1: I mean It's just it's just good business because, like
Speaker 1: like Phil here, people want to hear about Mike. They
Speaker 1: want to think about Mike, they want to talk about Mike.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's your team, and when your team's
Speaker 3: not winning, you want to you want to find something
Speaker 3: to feel good about.
Speaker 1: The silver running. Yeah, and that is a silver. I
Speaker 1: like it because you've been thinking for a few years
Speaker 1: that Mike Evans is Hall of Fame worthy, right right,
Speaker 1: But you don't know is that going to happen? And
Speaker 1: now when he keeps like passing Hall of famers on
Speaker 1: certain lists, you haven't. Yeah, it's like is this even
Speaker 1: a question anymore? So it's nice to feel like there's
Speaker 1: no way he's not making the Hall of Fame. There's
Speaker 1: no way. I don't know he's going to get to
Speaker 1: at least one hundred touchdowns in his career.
Speaker 3: How many articles did you write about Ronde Barber trying
Speaker 3: to get it?
Speaker 1: He got in, He got in, but I didn't say
Speaker 1: necessarily make first ballot, Okay, but I had to write
Speaker 1: more about John Lynch. Rondey gotten quicker than John.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we lot right, right, right right?
Speaker 1: All right? One more from Sam and Nashville Okay, dogs.
Speaker 1: Never thought I'd say this, but thank goodness for the
Speaker 1: Falcons for keeping the division from getting out of hand.
Speaker 1: He means because they live in New Orleans. Even though
Speaker 1: it's stunk that we lost, it was nice to see
Speaker 1: Mike move up the charts with two more tea catches.
Speaker 1: I liked everybody. I like everybody's following that. This is
Speaker 1: a this is a pretty This is kind of a
Speaker 1: tough question. You might enjoy this since reality has been
Speaker 1: kind of sad lately. I have a hypothetical quest. I
Speaker 1: hope you mean that only in terms of football. Sam, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a hypothetical question for you both. With the
Speaker 1: news coming out of SAP joining the Colorado coaching staff
Speaker 1: next year, is that a definite done deal?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a rumor. No, he I actually spoke with
Speaker 3: SAP and yeah, he is. He's gonna be going out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Keenan mccardoll coaching the Vikings receivers, he's been coaching
Speaker 1: for a few years, yeah, number of years. And Lynch
Speaker 1: being the GM for the forty nine ers. It seems
Speaker 1: like a lot of former players have continued their football
Speaker 1: careers past their playing days. If you were thrown into
Speaker 1: an alternate reality and had to build a coaching staff
Speaker 1: from scratch, but you could only hire former Buccaneers players.
Speaker 1: What would be what would your coaching staff look like? Wow,
Speaker 1: let's say you can't use John Lynch, said he since
Speaker 1: he would probably be our fictional GM. Yeah, thanks to
Speaker 1: bring great podcast and let's go Lions, Jets and of
Speaker 1: course Bucks. Wow. Okay, so who's the head coach? See?
Speaker 1: I always thought of Rondi as a GM type.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of go with that.
Speaker 1: I don't know who. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call an audible here and say Ronde's our fictional GM,
Speaker 1: and that means John Lynch is available because he's our GM.
Speaker 1: Because I think he would make a good coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's smart and smart and it seems like he
Speaker 1: wants to work hard. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, d line, I would say.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like the best players either,
Speaker 1: the guys that you think.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they he's a pretty smart.
Speaker 1: What about Brad Johnson to coach the quarterbacks? That's a
Speaker 1: good choice. He's very far Tom Brady. Tom Brady doesn't
Speaker 1: want to coach? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: I'm just saying but he said he could be a
Speaker 3: head coach. It said, It didn't say who wants to
Speaker 3: It said if you had a team, so.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pick a guy that doesn't want to coach
Speaker 1: to be a coach. It's a hypothetical world, and hypothetically.
Speaker 3: It's a different, you know, reality of He just said.
Speaker 3: He didn't say who we thought wanted to be coaches?
Speaker 3: He said who.
Speaker 1: Would we pick? Yes, And I wouldn't pick a guy
Speaker 1: that I know doesn't want to be a coach. That
Speaker 1: seems I guess Derek Brooks. Derek Brooks, could he be
Speaker 1: your head coach?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got the talent.
Speaker 1: Would you think Dave Moore would be a good coach?
Speaker 3: Dave Moore would be an excellent.
Speaker 1: He knows the game. Also, just coach the tight ends
Speaker 1: he could ye, well, he could make He'd be a
Speaker 1: good head coach. Believe it about Paul Gruber, Oh O line, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's give him the line. Give him the O line.
Speaker 1: Tony Mabery is a very smart man, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like he would want to coach.
Speaker 3: Uh work done running backs?
Speaker 1: For what reason? Because he's very smart? That's true. I
Speaker 1: don't want my silence too. Yeah. No, make that seem
Speaker 1: like I was just screened. No, I mean it was
Speaker 1: just a thought process there. Now, your half back would
Speaker 1: have to be uh, Mike Halstatt, you're half back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't mean you're half back.
Speaker 3: Don't they have half backs anymore?
Speaker 1: No? Halfback is it's just the same thing as a
Speaker 1: tailback or running back.
Speaker 3: Well, but it used to be used to be a
Speaker 3: person who was just a half back.
Speaker 1: Continue, they were called that be based on where they
Speaker 1: lined up in the backfield.
Speaker 3: So but there were some guys that that specifically all
Speaker 3: they did.
Speaker 1: Continue, nobody's called him halfbacks in years. Dude.
Speaker 3: Okay, but this isn't This is not reality, right, you
Speaker 3: keep forgetting this is fantasy land right now?
Speaker 1: Keep going?
Speaker 3: Who else you got?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to think of a good
Speaker 1: head coaching candidate. I'm looking at this list of players
Speaker 1: of our best players. Doesn't have to be our best players.
Speaker 3: You have to say guys that were really really football smart.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess since Keenan mccardial is already or
Speaker 1: receivers coach in the NFL, I would choose him. But
Speaker 1: do you do you? I mean, a head coach who's
Speaker 1: gonna who's gonna have the gravitas. Yeah, that's why I
Speaker 1: think Derek Brooks could be sure bring the troops together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that that might work. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: think of of guys that were were teachers as they
Speaker 1: were players. That's kind of where you have to go
Speaker 1: with that. That's a hard question.
Speaker 3: You know, who do you remember who played, but also
Speaker 3: you know, helped other guys out. It was a good
Speaker 3: teammate in that ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. I'm just having a hard time
Speaker 1: to kind of answer it is. It's very very difficult.
Speaker 1: I don't even you know a guy who was always
Speaker 1: very concerned with wanting to be a leader, Jerald McCoy. Oh, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and he's also very smart. He is he could be
Speaker 1: a head coaching candidate in this hypothetical conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's possibility there.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good one too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's something that you would have
Speaker 3: to kind of just really as other people are naming names,
Speaker 3: as with Joey Galloway.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joey Galloway would be excellent. I think he'd be
Speaker 1: a good from a personality standpoint, and he's.
Speaker 3: A you know, again a football guy doing it on TV.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't think we're gonna sit here and fill
Speaker 1: out an entire No, you can't. We don't have all day.
Speaker 3: Well, we would have a small staff because we want
Speaker 3: rooms on the airplane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're running the show now, we're running the
Speaker 1: show at a streamline.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's an interesting question because
Speaker 3: if you look at the Detroit Lions, he has more
Speaker 3: former players as coaches than I think anybody. Oh really, yeah,
Speaker 3: what about Chris Godwin?
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, they're I mean he's still playing right now,
Speaker 1: so you'd have to he could be a player coach maybe,
Speaker 1: But wow, that's okay. That's one of the smartest guys around.
Speaker 1: Very and I feel like he'd be a leader, yeah,
Speaker 1: very even, very very uh but also a hard worker,
Speaker 1: so rub off, yeah, very methodical. I think he could
Speaker 1: speak in front of an auditorium full of players. Oh,
Speaker 1: no question, no question.
Speaker 3: But yeah, interesting that That is a good question though,
Speaker 3: that I mean, that's something that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how well we've answered that. That could be.
Speaker 3: You know, that could be like a you know, a
Speaker 3: bar question. You know, you're sitting having a couple of
Speaker 3: beers and just rattling off names.
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't know if I've hit
Speaker 1: upon the Williams. Yeah, but I mean he went into
Speaker 1: personnel coaching, that's true, although no, he did coach at
Speaker 1: college level.
Speaker 3: Well head coach, yeah, grappling, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's definitely a an option.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean those those are the things that.
Speaker 1: That I'm just randomly looking through the all time roster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're cheating, You're looking at it. I'm just thinking of, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm cheating, you am I Yeah, because you're looking and.
Speaker 1: Remember that there were rules to this. Well, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's I'm cheating. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, you're just not using your brain like you always do.
Speaker 1: I can't remember all twelve hundred or whatever it is
Speaker 1: players have played for us. I'm trying to get trying
Speaker 1: to jolt my memory here. Is that how many you
Speaker 1: have played for us? Is it really in all the years?
Speaker 1: In all the years? But yeah, I'm giving up. I
Speaker 1: am too. I think we've given some decent answers. I
Speaker 1: think I think that is a question.
Speaker 3: I think that is the question that continues to give
Speaker 3: answers because everyone's going to happen, and a big.
Speaker 1: Is the question that continues to give answers. Yes, we
Speaker 1: maybe should just stop talking now. I'm done because these
Speaker 1: words aren't coming out right. Yeah, it does. That's that's
Speaker 1: our last question, is it. We've answered it adequately, if
Speaker 1: not wonderfully, So I'm done. I did too, I'm out
Speaker 1: of here since you did. Thanks for listening. Mm hm