WEBVTT - Happy New Year!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Desperately Devoted.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of us as your favorite neighbors as we chat

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<v Speaker 2>about life and relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>All while we revisit the iconic show Desperate Housewives together.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm Emerson Tenny.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, welcome back everyone. I am so excited that we

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<v Speaker 3>are here. Can you believe it's almost twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the end of a nine year cycle and

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<v Speaker 3>we were about to go into this new, expansive, abundant era.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, for me, I am really looking to make

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<v Speaker 3>this twenty twenty six about community and friendship and connection.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have just loved seeing all of.

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<v Speaker 3>Your likes and comments and questions coming through our Desperately

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<v Speaker 3>Devoted podcast Instagram, and we wanted to answer a few

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<v Speaker 3>more of them before the new year.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>This one, I think is for Andrea. Okay, from I

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<v Speaker 2>am I Okay, So I think I'm reading this right.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is from Marcie. We hear and see so

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<v Speaker 2>much about being a child actor, especially in the nineties

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<v Speaker 2>and early two thousands with documentaries like Quiet on Set

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<v Speaker 2>The Dark Side of Kids TV. Did you have any

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<v Speaker 2>experiences similar to the kids on these shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so I will say that I it took me

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to watch that documentary because I was bracing

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<v Speaker 1>myself for recognizing familiar experiences in my own life growing

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<v Speaker 1>up as a child actor and an actor on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say that I was fortunate to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the super super dark, scary sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the industry. But that doesn't mean that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a crop of memories that now I look back on

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult and recognize that they were not safe

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<v Speaker 1>places for me to be. They were not safe people

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<v Speaker 1>for me to be around. And I think the one

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<v Speaker 1>distinguishing thing I've known, and I knew a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those kids that are featured in that particular documentary or

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<v Speaker 1>who have had those experiences, I think that it's very

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to put a child in an adult world and

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<v Speaker 1>not leave them vulnerable to experiences happening to them that

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<v Speaker 1>they're not ready for. I think the difference between being

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<v Speaker 1>on a show like Desperate Housewives was that, yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a mostly adult show, and obviously my co workers

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<v Speaker 1>were mostly adult, you know, adults. It didn't attract adults though,

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted to be exclusively around children. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a distinction. Well, they're the shows that were on Disney

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<v Speaker 1>or Nickelodeon or these other child centric networks. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have some adults who are attracted to work in that

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<v Speaker 1>working space because there are so many children there, and

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<v Speaker 1>that I think leaves the door wide open for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of scary things. I have said, I have strong

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<v Speaker 1>feelings about my future child wanting to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>business in a professional capacity before she's an adult, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really hard to protect children. I have

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<v Speaker 1>amazing parents, I had amazing coworkers like Terry who were

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<v Speaker 1>looking out for me, and I still had unfortunate experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>I had experiences growing up with adult men who were

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate with me, and I was it's because I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a I was in that environment. It can happen anywhere, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I swore too much in front of you.

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<v Speaker 1>You do interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I seem to recall trying to catch myself like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's the kind of unfortunate experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't have that perception.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also was thinking of MJ.

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<v Speaker 2>There is I didn't give a shit about in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you, but like I think was five, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, I shouldn't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a delicate balance for me too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to be seen as an equal. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to feel like I was babied. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to feel like I was treated as not a

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<v Speaker 1>professional who was there to do a job. But when

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate things would happen. I was on a series before

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<v Speaker 1>Desperate Housewives where one of the leads had made an

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<v Speaker 1>offhanded comment about the porn Debbie Do's Dallas. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>this really, really well, and it went over my head

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I didn't get it, but they felt

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<v Speaker 1>so terrible afterwards that they went to my mom and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry that I made that comment in

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<v Speaker 1>front of your daughter. And I was so confused. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like what was going on because I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>get it at the time, and that certainly was not

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<v Speaker 1>a damaging thing. It didn't land with me. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a difference. Some people are really

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<v Speaker 1>aware when there's a child on set, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people aren't, and a lot of people don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's their job just because there's a child on

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<v Speaker 1>set to change their behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Another question that came in was is TV work a

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<v Speaker 1>nine to five? How long were you on set? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it Monday through Friday or did you come and go

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the week? Also, where are all the doctor's office

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<v Speaker 1>scenes filmed?

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<v Speaker 4>Vanessa? You had so many questions A lot the.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor's office scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe there's maybe the hospital, because we did use that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was on a set that was on Universal.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all on stage in the back, and the more

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<v Speaker 2>there would be stories where like you'll, you know, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>ends up in the hospital, or Susan's in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>or Rex's in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>Julie's in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Julius there it's that was a stage. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember the name, but it's kind of down close to

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<v Speaker 2>where like the Transformer ride used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and when you say stages, I just think we

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<v Speaker 3>should clarify to use our sound stages on the Universal

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<v Speaker 3>studios a lot. Yeah, where they build sets inside of

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<v Speaker 3>a large room and then they're able to bring in

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<v Speaker 3>camera crew and light it and film it like it's

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<v Speaker 3>an actual space.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of those doctors slash hospital scenes were in

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<v Speaker 1>the same sound stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is no drama show, anything that is not

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<v Speaker 2>a sitcom, and even a sitcom, there is not anything

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<v Speaker 2>that shoots between nine and five as true. Like my

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend right now is doing hair on what's it called

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Dennis Medical, and that show, she claims is a

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote easy show because the everyone's really nice and

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<v Speaker 2>the producers are like very clear about stopping at like

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<v Speaker 2>ten to twelve hours, like that's they don't do any

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<v Speaker 2>of the crazy overtime sixteen hour days.

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<v Speaker 4>But she still goes to work.

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<v Speaker 2>At like five thirty in the morning and doesn't leave

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<v Speaker 2>until like six o'clock at night.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean an eight hour workday, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>exist in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it is. You are at least ten to

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<v Speaker 4>twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're on a scene and you're right thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>because you take away the hour for lunch, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a union that we're a part of. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that union has rules and structure that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to adhere to, so you have to get things that

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<v Speaker 1>are called like a twelve hour turnaround, so that there's

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours between when you wrap and when you're back

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<v Speaker 1>on set.

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<v Speaker 4>And now there's no yes.

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<v Speaker 3>To note because I think a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 3>aren't maybe familiar with the industry. The twelve hour turnaround

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<v Speaker 3>is like this big built in grace cushion. But think

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<v Speaker 3>about how many hours you sleep at night, like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like to sleep nine hours. Now, imagine you don't get

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<v Speaker 3>to leave your office building, and you leave your office

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<v Speaker 3>building at I don't know, five pm. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>be back at five am, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to you have to drive home.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact the travel time, you have to take a shower,

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<v Speaker 1>you have.

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<v Speaker 2>To like eat dinner, you have to deal with your life,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to sleep, and then you have to turn

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<v Speaker 2>around and come back like it's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of the time, I mean, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>were shooting eighteen hour days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were. They tried to pull that back to

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen max. But even still the fifteen hour days

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. And is it Monday through Friday? It usually

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<v Speaker 2>is Monday through Friday, but you usually finish Friday at

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<v Speaker 2>like four in the morning, and you usually have to

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<v Speaker 2>be back Monday at like five in the morning. So

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of like jip you of your time over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend. And they do that on purpose because they

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it works. It's a listen. It's not an

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<v Speaker 2>easy it's not an easy gig, but you're grateful to

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<v Speaker 2>have you.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a question, a quick and easy one from Ace

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<v Speaker 3>of Bess to you, Mom. Okay, Ace of Best says,

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<v Speaker 3>I love Terry's glasses. Oh do you get them all

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<v Speaker 3>from the same place? You have so many fun frames.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that you say that glasses are really Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something might I tell Emerson all the time, read

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<v Speaker 2>all the books you want to read before you turn forty,

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<v Speaker 2>because after you turn forty and you can't see anything anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a pain, like, you know, the simplest thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you look at this like, oh I can't read

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<v Speaker 2>that without my glasses, you know anyway. But at least

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<v Speaker 2>you look good, dude, Oh thank you? And I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Typically there is one shop in Los Angeles that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been going to for a long time and seeing them

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. I have a lot of Chanel,

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<v Speaker 2>and typically I don't I'm not like a you wouldn't say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like a snooty brand. No, you're not really

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<v Speaker 2>sign I'm not a designer person. But I do have

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<v Speaker 2>a few pair of Chanelle's I do love showing my

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<v Speaker 2>personality through my glasses since I'm stuck with I.

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<v Speaker 1>Recently got into the glasses game myself after updating my

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<v Speaker 1>prescription for the first time in a decade and finding

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<v Speaker 1>out that my vision is not so good anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>I agree it's really fun to express your fashion through

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<v Speaker 1>your glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I have one more question that I want to ask,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's to both of you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a two hander.

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<v Speaker 3>This is from Georgia Kay, and she says, thanks so

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<v Speaker 3>much for listening and for watching the show so many

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<v Speaker 3>times with your mom.

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<v Speaker 4>That must be to me. Uh, she says, we love

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<v Speaker 4>that question.

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<v Speaker 3>Were there people that you knew in your life who

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<v Speaker 3>you put into your character? This is for Andrea and

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<v Speaker 3>for Terry. Did you have a mother figure that you

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<v Speaker 3>put into your character that you were emulating? Were there

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<v Speaker 3>mannerisms from people in your actual life that you felt

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<v Speaker 3>yourself imbuing into your character.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike Terry, where we've said there's some really obvious differences

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<v Speaker 1>between Susan and Terry, like some really really clear ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say there's a chunk of crossover between Andrea

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<v Speaker 1>and Julie, and so I didn't necessarily draw on a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of other people to bring into that character, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did kind of let myself come into that character

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<v Speaker 1>a lot as we continue to rewatch. I do remember

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<v Speaker 1>there being a real departure at a certain point where

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like Julie's storyline was going in a really

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<v Speaker 1>different way than what I would ever do, but also

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<v Speaker 1>than what I thought Julie would do. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe when that happens, Yeah, because you feel so

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<v Speaker 2>connected to your character and why you acting that way,

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<v Speaker 2>feel ownership of yeah, your character, But.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think did you bring in other people

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<v Speaker 1>into the crafting?

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<v Speaker 2>But I understand that question. I mean it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>something that I haven't thought of or sort of applied

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe other characters. But I don't think I felt

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<v Speaker 2>that I needed to do that here. Well, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>pretty locked in and familiar with the vulnerability of Susan

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, being a mother, being a single mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I'm a very different kind of mother, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt really locked into that, and I also just

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciated finding the comedic moments in it. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the one thing I just want to add this

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<v Speaker 3>was a question to me from Rita H. That we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to get to, but I think it is

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<v Speaker 3>important to say that Rita H. I was actually never

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<v Speaker 3>jealous of Andrea and the time she got to spend

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<v Speaker 3>with my mom. As an only child, it was really

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<v Speaker 3>special for me to feel like I had some version

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<v Speaker 3>of a simulated sister, and my mom gave me so

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<v Speaker 3>much of her attention when she wasn't on set.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought that was a really cool question. Thanks

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<v Speaker 4>again for sending.

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<v Speaker 3>In your questions and for your kind comments, and for

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<v Speaker 3>your devotion to our podcast. We are desperately devoted to

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<v Speaker 3>all of you, our listeners, and we look forward to

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing twenty twenty six