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Speaker 1: Welcome to Desperately Devoted.

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Speaker 2: Think of us as your favorite neighbors as we chat

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Speaker 2: about life and relationships.

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Speaker 3: All while we revisit the iconic show Desperate Housewives together.

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Speaker 2: I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen.

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Speaker 4: And I'm Emerson Tenny.

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Speaker 3: Okay, welcome back everyone. I am so excited that we

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Speaker 3: are here. Can you believe it's almost twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: This is the end of a nine year cycle and

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Speaker 3: we were about to go into this new, expansive, abundant era.

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Speaker 3: I know, for me, I am really looking to make

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Speaker 3: this twenty twenty six about community and friendship and connection.

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Speaker 4: And we have just loved seeing all of.

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Speaker 3: Your likes and comments and questions coming through our Desperately

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Speaker 3: Devoted podcast Instagram, and we wanted to answer a few

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Speaker 3: more of them before the new year.

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Speaker 4: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: This one, I think is for Andrea. Okay, from I

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Speaker 2: am I Okay, So I think I'm reading this right.

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Speaker 2: So this is from Marcie. We hear and see so

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Speaker 2: much about being a child actor, especially in the nineties

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Speaker 2: and early two thousands with documentaries like Quiet on Set

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Speaker 2: The Dark Side of Kids TV. Did you have any

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Speaker 2: experiences similar to the kids on these shows.

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Speaker 1: Well, so I will say that I it took me

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Speaker 1: a minute to watch that documentary because I was bracing

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Speaker 1: myself for recognizing familiar experiences in my own life growing

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Speaker 1: up as a child actor and an actor on TV.

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Speaker 1: And I will say that I was fortunate to avoid

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Speaker 1: a lot of the super super dark, scary sides of

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Speaker 1: the industry. But that doesn't mean that I don't have

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Speaker 1: a crop of memories that now I look back on

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Speaker 1: as an adult and recognize that they were not safe

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Speaker 1: places for me to be. They were not safe people

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Speaker 1: for me to be around. And I think the one

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Speaker 1: distinguishing thing I've known, and I knew a lot of

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Speaker 1: those kids that are featured in that particular documentary or

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Speaker 1: who have had those experiences, I think that it's very

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Speaker 1: impossible to put a child in an adult world and

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Speaker 1: not leave them vulnerable to experiences happening to them that

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Speaker 1: they're not ready for. I think the difference between being

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Speaker 1: on a show like Desperate Housewives was that, yes, it

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Speaker 1: was a mostly adult show, and obviously my co workers

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Speaker 1: were mostly adult, you know, adults. It didn't attract adults though,

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Speaker 1: who wanted to be exclusively around children. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a distinction. Well, they're the shows that were on Disney

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Speaker 1: or Nickelodeon or these other child centric networks. You might

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Speaker 1: have some adults who are attracted to work in that

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Speaker 1: working space because there are so many children there, and

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Speaker 1: that I think leaves the door wide open for a

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Speaker 1: lot of scary things. I have said, I have strong

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Speaker 1: feelings about my future child wanting to be in the

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Speaker 1: business in a professional capacity before she's an adult, because

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Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to protect children. I have

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Speaker 1: amazing parents, I had amazing coworkers like Terry who were

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Speaker 1: looking out for me, and I still had unfortunate experiences.

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Speaker 1: I had experiences growing up with adult men who were

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Speaker 1: inappropriate with me, and I was it's because I was

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Speaker 1: in a I was in that environment. It can happen anywhere, obviously,

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Speaker 1: But I do think that.

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Speaker 2: I think I swore too much in front of you.

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Speaker 1: You do interesting.

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Speaker 2: I seem to recall trying to catch myself like, I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's the kind of unfortunate experience.

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't have that perception.

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Speaker 4: But I also was thinking of MJ.

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Speaker 2: There is I didn't give a shit about in front

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Speaker 1: I think it was a delicate balance for me too,

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Speaker 1: professional who was there to do a job. But when

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Speaker 1: inappropriate things would happen. I was on a series before

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Speaker 1: Desperate Housewives where one of the leads had made an

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Speaker 1: But I think there's a difference. Some people are really

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Speaker 1: Another question that came in was is TV work a

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Speaker 1: nine to five? How long were you on set? Was

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Speaker 1: That was on a set that was on Universal.

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Speaker 2: We're all on stage in the back, and the more

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Speaker 2: there would be stories where like you'll, you know, Mike

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Speaker 4: Julie's in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Julius there it's that was a stage. I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you say stages, I just think we

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Speaker 3: should clarify to use our sound stages on the Universal

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Speaker 1: So all of those doctors slash hospital scenes were in

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Speaker 2: Yes, there is no drama show, anything that is not

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Speaker 2: Saint Dennis Medical, and that show, she claims is a

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Speaker 2: the producers are like very clear about stopping at like

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Speaker 4: But she still goes to work.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean an eight hour workday, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: I mean it is. You are at least ten to

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Speaker 1: And there's a union that we're a part of. And

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Speaker 4: And now there's no yes.

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Speaker 3: To note because I think a lot of people who

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Speaker 3: like to sleep nine hours. Now, imagine you don't get

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Speaker 2: You have to you have to drive home.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of the time, I mean, you guys

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Speaker 3: Here's a question, a quick and easy one from Ace

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Speaker 3: of Bess to you, Mom. Okay, Ace of Best says,

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Speaker 3: I love Terry's glasses. Oh do you get them all

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Speaker 3: from the same place? You have so many fun frames.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's so cute.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you say that glasses are really Like,

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Speaker 1: Recently got into the glasses game myself after updating my

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Speaker 3: Well, I have one more question that I want to ask,

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Speaker 3: and it's to both of you.

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Speaker 4: It's a two hander.

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Speaker 3: This is from Georgia Kay, and she says, thanks so

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Speaker 3: much for listening and for watching the show so many

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Speaker 3: times with your mom.

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Speaker 4: That must be to me. Uh, she says, we love

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Speaker 3: Were there people that you knew in your life who

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Speaker 3: you put into your character? This is for Andrea and

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Speaker 3: for Terry. Did you have a mother figure that you

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Speaker 3: put into your character that you were emulating? Were there

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Speaker 3: mannerisms from people in your actual life that you felt

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Speaker 1: Unlike Terry, where we've said there's some really obvious differences

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Speaker 1: between Susan and Terry, like some really really clear ones.

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Speaker 1: I would say there's a chunk of crossover between Andrea

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Speaker 1: I felt like Julie's storyline was going in a really

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Speaker 4: But I thought that was a really cool question. Thanks

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Speaker 4: again for sending.

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Speaker 3: In your questions and for your kind comments, and for

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Speaker 3: your devotion to our podcast. We are desperately devoted to

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Speaker 3: all of you, our listeners, and we look forward to

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Speaker 3: being with you again in the new year. Let's have

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