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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal verbal. Hull ah for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith state is that woo woo?

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Speaker 3: And no them and Tye, Welcome back to the solid

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Speaker 3: verbal Boys and girls, My name is ty hilden Brand,

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Speaker 3: joining me as always over there in the heart of

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Speaker 3: the Midwest, the one and only Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: Sir, how are you, Tye? Uh? Real quick?

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Speaker 2: I threw a wish in the well and don't ask me.

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Speaker 2: Don't ask me. I'll never tell. I looked at you,

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Speaker 2: Tye as it fell, and now you are in my way.

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Speaker 2: Anything is that Carly Ray?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 2: It's CRJ Saturday coming up here. Because I could not

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Speaker 2: find a single cohesive theme, I looked up celebrity birthdays

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Speaker 2: and Carl Ray Jebson is turning thirty four. And if

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Speaker 2: there's anything that that encompasses the center of the Dan

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Speaker 2: tie than diagram, it might be CRJ.

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Speaker 1: CRJ is up there. How old is that song? Now?

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Speaker 2: That would have been like twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twelve, twelve, Yeah through a wishin Yeah, CRJ. I've got

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Speaker 1: a different spin for this weekend, and I don't dislike

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Speaker 1: the CRJ Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's okay because I can tie it. I can

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Speaker 2: tie song titles into matchups, which is a nice little layer.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to deprive us of that conversation, though,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I want to hear more. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say Sicilian Saturday because we've been big on this

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Speaker 1: show called Queen's Gambit on Netflix. Oh, that's true. And

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Speaker 1: the Sicilian defense it's a very popular opening move. It's

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Speaker 1: an aggressive defensive opening move. I'll take your word for it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking off of a website. I don't know

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Speaker 1: this all the time. Yeah, I'm not any kind of

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking Sicilian defense. I'm thinking Sicilian pizza if

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Speaker 2: I do have a dough baby fermenting cold fermenting as

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Speaker 1: So maybe it's to choose your own adventure. You can

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Speaker 1: go CRJ, you can go Sicilian, whatever you're into. I

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Speaker 1: just I really don't want to deprive us that CRJ

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Speaker 2: I'm on one of these celebrity birthday sites and we

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Speaker 2: will get in preview. Let First of all, we've gone

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Speaker 2: podcasts that might encompass CRJ Satady. We got Bedlam yep, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we could connect Sicilian or CRJ to Bedlam.

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Speaker 2: Arizona, Washington, Iowa, Penn State, usually a barn burner, now

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Speaker 2: it's just sort of a burner. Wisconsin, Northwestern my backyard,

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Speaker 2: huge Big Ten West implications, perhaps the headline matchup of

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Speaker 2: Ten East. So you know, those are those games that

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about. But Ty, what I was

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Speaker 2: going to say is I went up on celebrity birthdays

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Speaker 2: and this is what hurts me so much. I go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go through the.

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Speaker 2: Famous people having birthdays and it's just YouTube star this

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Speaker 2: person's turning eleven tick took billionaire and I'd never heard

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Speaker 2: CRJ is way up there though, so that's cool. I'm goodbye, CRJ.

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Speaker 1: is college Football Week twelve. We have a sicilian a

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Speaker 1: college football news. The big news story even bigger than COVID. Dan.

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Speaker 1: South Carolina has fired Will mush Champ. He was their

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Speaker 2: It's about thirteen and change. It was lower than fifteen.

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Speaker 2: When he hired Bobo, they took they readjusted his buyout

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Speaker 1: Mike Bobobiah came over, he was the newly christened offensive coordinator. Notably,

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Speaker 1: it is the second time that must Champ's been fired

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Speaker 1: Then they end up with much Champ. Now they're kind

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Speaker 1: of back to square one here. Some early names being mentioned.

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Speaker 1: These are early names, Dan, I have no idea how

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Speaker 1: many of these are actually credible, but Hugh Freeze, Tony Elliott,

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Speaker 1: interesting name. Any of those Any of those names mean

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Speaker 2: All of those names mean something to me. But Billy

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Speaker 2: more and more with college jobs if he has upper

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think Carolina is currently starting PJ. Walker.

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Speaker 1: Over other news.

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Speaker 1: So South Carolina is looking for a coach. It shouldn't

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Speaker 1: We'll see which direction they go, but Carolina is on

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Speaker 1: All right, I think that's all I have for news. Dan,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think if I am forced to choose, the

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Speaker 1: these college football leagues, God, so dark, it's a dark time, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. True.

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Speaker 1: Deal with that. Wisconsin when the Northwestern, I think I could.

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Speaker 2: Go on apple picking. I would take the night block

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see Rutgers Apple the Michigan Wolverines.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Sicilian defense going on in that middle

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Yeah, that Penn State look

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Speaker 1: It's scary, just not in the context at Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Fans would hope. Let's let's start early here. We've got, okay,

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Speaker 1: a top ten matchup if you can believe it, Indiana

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Speaker 1: three touchdown favorite. They've won the last twenty four matchups

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Speaker 1: I think Indiana is chomping at the bit. They want

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Speaker 2: Give me Ohio State, big big, Okay, defend the pick

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Speaker 2: because I am actually taking Indiana and the points here. No,

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Speaker 1: Maybe you should be defending your pick. No, lock it up. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're looking at this matchup and you're saying

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Speaker 1: Let me just posit this. I am an Indiana fan.

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Speaker 1: I think this is an Indiana defense that's solid, but

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Speaker 2: So you believe Indiana is worse than Rutgers forty nine

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Speaker 1: Indiana is not worse than Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: But I think I'm just I'm hearing.

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Speaker 1: I think Ohio State wins this one going away?

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Speaker 2: Do you does it change your thinking at all that

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I don't think Ohio State defensively is We're

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Speaker 2: I think we are conflating twenty nineteen with twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's clearly the class of the Big ten. Clearly

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Speaker 2: flawed no, no JK. Dobbins changing the calculus of every

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Speaker 2: I actually think Indiana is competent enough to cover this spread,

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Speaker 2: they're giving up too many big plays, and Indiana's done

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Speaker 2: it was a down performance last week offensively against Michigan State,

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Speaker 2: but I still think Indiana has enough gamers. And they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think Indiana can play this Ohio State

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Speaker 2: even though they themselves have given up way too many

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Speaker 2: The offense has been very good situationally, third downs, red zones.

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Speaker 2: I believe that I think Indiana can stretch this out

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Speaker 1: That I'll add here that I think it's you know,

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Speaker 2: You can't help but mention that for Indiana football.

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Speaker 1: Well right, because it does have the hallmark of a

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Speaker 1: team that's punching a little bit above its weight class

435
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Speaker 1: that they've gotten to obviously a top ten ranking. A

436
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Speaker 1: lot of folks are talking about Indiana football. I feel

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Speaker 1: great for Indiana football. Like I said, I'm a fan

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Speaker 1: of Indiana football, but I don't know if they are

439
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Speaker 1: as good as that ranking, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: the week that we find it out. So I'm going

441
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Speaker 1: to stick to my guns. I saw it. It was

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Speaker 1: the first thing that I reacted to. I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State lock them up minus the points.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, see, I'm looking at the in retrospect that

445
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Speaker 2: Ohio State should have really blown Penn State out given

446
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Speaker 2: what we have now seen out of Penn State. I

447
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: understand Penn State at home big moment, but yeah, I

448
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Speaker 2: don't know.

449
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Speaker 1: Let's stay in that noon block. Let's talk about the

450
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Speaker 1: sun Belt fun Belt. Dan App State on the road

451
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Speaker 1: at Coastal Carolina. Coastal Carolina last check was like five

452
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Speaker 1: six point favorite. Here there's seven to zero seven, and

453
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Speaker 1: it's sort of like an old school news school set

454
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Speaker 1: up here in the sun Belt because obviously Coastal Carolina

455
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Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of play. They're what year four

456
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Speaker 1: the schansar of being at the FBS level. Clearly, this

457
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Speaker 1: has been the most successful of all those campaigns. Led

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Speaker 1: by Jamie Chadwell, their coach, perhaps candidate for that South

459
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Speaker 1: Carolina job. He has gotten this team a little bit

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Speaker 1: better each year on the job. And it does seem

461
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Speaker 1: as if they found their freshmen freshman star quarterback that

462
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Speaker 1: is Grayson McCall, your boy, Grayson McCall. Oh. Absolutely so.

463
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Speaker 2: The Shans run a sort of pseudo option offense, a

464
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Speaker 2: lot of different option looks, and it's it's not an

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Speaker 2: amazing matchup given how good App State has been against

466
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Speaker 2: the pass. I would have liked the Shants to be

467
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Speaker 2: a little bit better on the ground, but it is

468
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Speaker 2: still a difficult offense to defend. I App State struggled

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Speaker 2: last week they needed to come back against. I think

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Speaker 2: was it Georgia State? Was it a look at was

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Speaker 2: it a look at it spot? It definitely could have been.

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Speaker 2: It's not a long voyage from Boone to I believe.

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Speaker 2: Was it Conway, South Carolina where Coastal plays Conway.

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Speaker 1: Just outside Myrtle Beach? I looked it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I think Coastal's too solid and too many places.

476
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Speaker 2: I know their defense is kind.

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Speaker 1: Of average at best, especially.

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Speaker 2: Against the run. I like Coastal here at home. I'm

479
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Speaker 2: gonna roll with the team. I'm gonna roll with the quarterback.

480
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: I know App stayeda Zach Thomas, and he's a nice

481
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Speaker 2: quarterback as well. I'm gonna roll with the momentum of Coastal.

482
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Speaker 2: That the sort of funky offense. They've been hyper efficient

483
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Speaker 2: all over the fields. Yeah, I'm going with Grayson McCall here.

484
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Speaker 2: Far be it from me to pick against the toughest

485
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Speaker 2: internship in America, completing seventy percent of his passes and

486
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Speaker 2: has only given up. I think he's thrown one pick

487
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: all year long, So I like that kind of line

488
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Speaker 2: going into a tough game.

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Speaker 1: Block of the week. I like app State a lot.

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Speaker 2: Here Dan double barrel already the first two games, two games,

491
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Speaker 2: two locks.

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Speaker 1: I might lock up every game this week. Okay, I

493
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Speaker 1: did not realize how skewed Coastal's numbers were. This is

494
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Speaker 1: really a team, as you said, that relies a lot

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Speaker 1: on that passing attack. And that's great. That is great.

496
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Speaker 1: It's been a great story and it works really well

497
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Speaker 1: against the Campbell fighting Campbells. It is not going to

498
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Speaker 1: work as well against app State, who is legitimately very

499
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Speaker 1: good as a pass defense. They're tough in the back seven.

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Speaker 1: I think app State's going to have their number on defense.

501
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to be able to run it

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Speaker 1: on offense against Coastal as well. And I think genuinely

503
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Speaker 1: they're the better team and they're getting points. They are

504
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Speaker 1: getting points.

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Speaker 2: What a weird world where you're super high on app

506
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Speaker 2: State for once. Okay, I mean Coastal did be raging.

507
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Speaker 2: Cajun's right.

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Speaker 1: If you want to abandon your longtime lover app State,

509
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Speaker 1: be my guest. I am all in on app state here.

510
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Speaker 1: I like them to win, outright, I like them certainly,

511
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Speaker 1: plus the points they are locked number two of this year,

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Speaker 1: week twelve for.

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Speaker 2: Me, and if and when, if and when Coastal Carolina wins,

514
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Speaker 2: call me maybe.

515
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Speaker 1: That's not bad. Did you have that plan? Did you

516
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Speaker 1: just come up now now, just in the moment. Some

517
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Speaker 1: other quick ones here that we do need to mention

518
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Speaker 1: in this noon block. A bunch of them. I don't know.

519
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Speaker 1: If any of them grab your attension, I'll rifle through them.

520
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Speaker 1: Then just let me know your thoughts. LSU a one

521
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Speaker 1: point favorite. Wow, wow, one point This one grabs my attention.

522
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Speaker 1: A one point favorite on the road against Arkansas. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine how folks would have laughed at us if

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Speaker 1: we said six months ago, three months ago, even that

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Speaker 1: LSU would only be a one point road favorite against Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: I think Arkansas may have opened as the actual favorite

527
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Speaker 1: in this game before it got bet in the direction

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Speaker 1: of LSU.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm on and this is not a sponsor whatever,

530
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Speaker 2: but I'm on Bovada in the current line in this

531
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Speaker 2: game is Arkansas minus two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's jumped around then. I've seen it

533
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Speaker 1: all over the place. But regardless, regardless, the point stands

534
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Speaker 1: that if you had thought about this six months ago

535
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Speaker 1: in current content and said, wow, Arkansas is going to

536
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Speaker 1: be the favorite or only a point off, that's just inconceivable.

537
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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you had already seen the story where at

538
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: Orgeron said most of ls who has already had COVID

539
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, what what's happening in Baton Rouge. Yeah,

540
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: it's a strange year. We've seen the depths of LSU.

541
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Speaker 2: We don't know how low they currently are within those depths.

542
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: They came up for air against South Carolina, but that's

543
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: apparently a thing that people can do now. Yeah, I

544
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: like Arkansas here. It's very awkward once again to pick

545
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Speaker 2: against a team because of not just how bad they've

546
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Speaker 2: looked on the field, but because of how uncertain things

547
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: have been off the field. And Arkansas is strangely enough,

548
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: the more stable, dependable program in this matchup. So yeah,

549
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the Hogs here to win

550
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: this game by a few.

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Speaker 1: I guess the question is what are you betting on

552
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: with LSU. They were kind of a mess to begin with.

553
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: Now they've had all these COVID issues to deal with.

554
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: They're on the road against a very capable and hungry

555
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Arkansas team that does have a good quarterback. So I

556
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Speaker 1: think I'm with you. I think I go Arkansas as well. Okay,

557
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: elsewhere in college football here in that noon block, Florida

558
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: minus thirty one and a half against Vandy, we've got

559
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Speaker 1: Clemson minus thirty four against Florida State, wake Forest minus

560
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: six and a half against Duke Maryland a five and

561
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a half point home favorite over Michigan State. Nebraska about

562
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: a fourteen fourteen and a half point favorite over Illinois,

563
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: and I guess that's it. Originally there was a Charlotte

564
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Marshall game here, but that one's been called.

565
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's too bad. I actually was watching a

566
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: bunch of Marshall game tape a couple of days ago,

567
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: just because I wanted to say, Brenda Knox and Grant

568
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: Well's a really nice one too in that backfield, must

569
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Speaker 2: win game from Maryland, and I think they will, just

570
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: because it's a winnable opponent that they can build up

571
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: on their year thus farther impressive year. I don't like

572
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: Nebraska as a double digit favorite, no matter how bad

573
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Speaker 2: their opponent is, just because this was I mean, Illinois

574
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: should have won this game last year. If I recall correctly,

575
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: it was like a phantom pass interference at the end

576
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: of a four point Nebraska win. I don't know what

577
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Nebraska has done. I mean, I know why Illinois is worse,

578
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: but I don't know what Nebraska's done to get that

579
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: much better than they were last year. Wake Duke is

580
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: not all that fun for me because of Duke. I

581
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: like watching Wake and it's a letdown spot potentially for

582
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: Wake after that shootout loss Clemson. Florida State doesn't do

583
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: much for me, though. I guess it's interesting to see

584
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: what Florida State can or can't do at quarterback. But

585
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: the return of Trevor Lawrence is certainly fun and hope

586
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: he has his physical faculties back after sitting out the

587
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: extended time that he did after testing positive Florida Andy.

588
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: I suppose it's interesting to see if Kyle Trask can

589
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: stay on pace to at least tie Joe Burrow's sixty

590
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: touchdown pass number from last year, because he's averaging like

591
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: four point eight touchdown passes a game, which here's my take,

592
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: that's good. That's a good pace to be on and

593
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: good company to potentially be And so yeah, that's that's

594
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: a window. I'm not all that excited to watch. I'm

595
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: excited to watch Indiana, Ohiose State and app State Coastal,

596
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm gonna toss back the rest here and

597
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: hope Maryland wins and builds upon things.

598
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Wake because outside of Duke's wins over

599
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Speaker 1: Syracuse and Charlotte, they haven't been within seven points of

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Speaker 1: anybody this season, So Wake minus the points and I'm

601
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Speaker 1: gonna go Maryland minus the points because Michigan State's been

602
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: putrid on offense and Maryland has been surprisingly capable of

603
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: this season. They got drilled in that opening game, but

604
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: came back strong beat Minnesota and Penn State, and it

605
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: does seem like they've found their quarterback Unti Leah. So

606
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: those are the two that jump out at me. I

607
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: would probably be inclinag to Arkansas as well, as I

608
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: said earlier. And Nebraska minus the points?

609
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: You do you actually like Nebraska? Like, do you actually

610
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Speaker 2: feel like Nebraska has its act together now that they

611
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: at least have started Luke McCaffrey once.

612
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: Not especially, Yeah, not especially, But I really don't like

613
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Illinois and I think that's the hang up for they

614
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: beat Rutgers.

615
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: They did, they did. Kickers is only bad, not embarrassing.

616
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: Right now, in the afternoon block, the big game here

617
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: is Wisconsin minus seven on the road in your backyard.

618
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: Are you going to this game? Are you taking the

619
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: solid toddler to this game? I don't know that fans

620
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: are allowed in Ryan Field? Will you be outside Ryan Field?

621
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: It's hard to get so close when there's so much

622
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: pandemonium in the streets around this Northwestern squad this year,

623
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: But we were always out and about weekend mornings, going

624
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: to parks and such in the Greater Evanston area.

625
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: So maybe, Yeah, I was thinking a lot this week

626
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: about a comment that you've been making, and you've been

627
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: doing this thing where you're talking about wins in a

628
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: losing effort. Yeah, it kind of feels like Northwestern has

629
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: three straight wins in losing efforts because this is not

630
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: a good Northwestern offense. It isn't an outside Hey.

631
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: Ramsey's fine, he's accurate, he makes throws, but you're right, continue.

632
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: He's fine, but the offense is not good. And outside

633
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: of that resounding win over Maryland to open the season,

634
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: it does feel like it's been a very underwhelming defense

635
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: first effort the rest of the way, and especially in

636
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: a game like this, I think I'm gonna be of

637
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: the mentality that two good defenses sort of cancel each

638
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: other out. I like the Wisconsint offense better in a

639
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: lower scoring game, maybe something like twenty four or thirteen,

640
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, just like an ugly defensive game. That

641
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: further justifies my window of opportunity being in this block.

642
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: Is it Northwestern? You're like, is there a better example

643
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: for you of your favorite? Like, you know, not great,

644
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: but one hundred and eighty straight down the faraway every time.

645
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean they're playing five iron off the tee right

646
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: pretty much exclusively.

647
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Northwestern not explosive. Northwestern has not lost against the

648
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: spread this year. Correct Correct, Vegas has not figured out

649
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: Northwestern and aligned to set to pick against Northwestern successfully,

650
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: so they're four to zero against the spread. Northwestern is

651
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: arguably arguably the best team in the nation at both

652
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: bending and not breaking great red zone defense and making

653
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: other teams bend and break. They score when they get

654
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: into the red zone. When they get into inside their

655
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: opponents forty, they're putting up points it's just sort of

656
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: a given. So they're in a year where we are

657
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: rewarding consistency, where rewarding dependability. We fully know who Northwestern is, right,

658
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: I think we fully know that they're good on third downs,

659
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: Like they just come through. They're there for you, They're

660
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: gonna help you move, They're gonna take you to the airport.

661
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: A conversation might be weird.

662
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you will make your flight.

663
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: You will make your flight. They will drop you off

664
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: at the correct terminal. I think what I know about

665
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Northwestern is that legitimately the front seven is good. Patty

666
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: Fisher a very good. Like we know, we know what

667
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get from that side of the football from Northwestern.

668
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: But to your point of Vegas not figuring them out

669
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: that kind of you can play that both ways, right,

670
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: and especially now as they're clearly going up a much

671
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: much better opponent than anyone they've seen so far this season,

672
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: Like there's a really good chance at this number is

673
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: way off the mark, and that Wisconsin wins by two touchdowns.

674
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: But now that we know more about Illinois and about Michigan,

675
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: are you as impressed.

676
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: No by Wisconsin at the moment, No, of course not

677
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: of course not.

678
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: And I think the way you actually beat Northwestern, if

679
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm watching these games correctly and looking at the numbers correctly,

680
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: is you've got to run on them, right, You got

681
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: to push Northwestern around up front. And weirdly enough, this

682
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: is not a Wisconsin team that is all that you know.

683
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: I like Nikia Wattson, I like you know, Garrick Roeschek,

684
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: whatever his status is, but this is not a flattening

685
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: Wisconsin team.

686
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: And the way that we're used to.

687
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: Thus far, okay, I just I don't see that high

688
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: level talent like we're used to it. Maybe that that

689
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: talent will emerge, maybe it'll emerge this week. But I'm

690
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: going with the good defense at home as the home

691
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: dog of the week. And it's not the Yako's Home

692
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: Dog of the week because there is a place I

693
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: discovered outside of runnel, not a sponsor, Mustard's Last Stand.

694
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: Mustard's Last Stand Dog of the way. It doesn't ring

695
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: quite like Yako's. But you can play the Yackos sound use.

696
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.

697
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: The Yakos home dog of the week, Mustard's Last Stand.

698
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: That's very difficult to say quickly.

699
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a pun and that's what happens in

700
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: the Midwest. A lot of punny restaurants.

701
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: We're disagreeing on a lot of games this evening. I

702
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: like it. I love it. I like it.

703
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: Okay, are you feeling that emotion, Charlie rad jebson.

704
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: Three point thirty. I'm feeling emotion about this one, Okay.

705
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: Iowa minus two and a half on the road against

706
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Penn State. When I saw this line at the Open,

707
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: I think it was something like Penn State minus two

708
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: and a half, which blew my mind. Blew my mind.

709
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: The last three meetings in this one have been one

710
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: score game. Penn State's actually won something like the last six.

711
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: I was a tough team to read, Dan, they really are.

712
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: They lost to both Purdue and Northwestern to open the year,

713
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: then they had two dominant wins over Michigan State and Minnesota.

714
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: The defensive numbers are skewed a bit because they haven't

715
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: really played a good offense. But you know, with Penn

716
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: State on the schedule, why start now. I guess my

717
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: only trepidation here is that I don't know what to

718
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: expect from Penn State at quarterback. If it's Seawan Clifford,

719
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Shawn Clifford's been a mess, a mess. We saw will

720
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: the thrill. Levis come in last week against Nebraska, and

721
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: he did provide a spark, But he's a runner, he's

722
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: not a great thrower. His career completion percentage is something

723
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: like fifty three point eight percent. I think I saw

724
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: so they be limited on that side of the ball

725
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: and the rushing attack for Penn State's really an open question.

726
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Given you know some of what we've seen happen so

727
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: far in the earth, I have some answers. Yeah, I

728
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: think the answer here is Iowa. I really like Iowa. Here.

729
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: We had some folks give us suggestions and options for

730
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: the mail it in Teams of the Year. I present

731
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: two to you. Here's one mailing it that's rom Van

732
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Wilder classic movie. We also have this one, which is

733
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: much more of the standard play that got sent in.

734
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: So whichever sound you like better doesn't matter to me.

735
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: I think Penn State still falls in that category. I

736
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: do think if they go to Levis they get a

737
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a lift, But I'm just not confident

738
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: taking them over anybody right now. So I'll go Iowa

739
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: minus the number.

740
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, why wouldn't you just the ball to a running

741
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: back in the entire game, Tyler Goodson and Makay Sargent,

742
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: if they're available. I assume they're available playing Penn State.

743
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: They can run the ball well enough. They're not like

744
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: home run threats. But if you pick up six yards

745
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: at a time against Penn State, you're gonna win that

746
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: game twenty.

747
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Eight to seven, right, Yeah, I think so.

748
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: I know it's been a one score game all these years,

749
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: and I still think it will be. I just think

750
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: it will be Penn State scoring once. So I'm gonna go. Yeah,

751
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: Iowa by double.

752
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: Digits, we agree, Okay, two other quick ones here and

753
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: then we'll rifle off a bunch of other matchups in

754
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: that mid afternoon block. KSE State on the road at

755
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: Iowa State. Last I saw it was Iowa State by

756
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: about eleven. Really like the clones here. Dan off last

757
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: week getting ready for that final push in their schedule

758
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: starting this week with k State, and they've got Texas

759
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: and West Virginia. Meanwhile, Case State's lost to in a row.

760
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: They muddied up that game two weeks ago against Oklahoma State.

761
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: They did have a shot there, but now they're back

762
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: on the road. I don't care for their quarterback situation.

763
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if they kept this one close, because

764
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: that seems to be their mo. But I really feel

765
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: like Iowa State is a much much better team in

766
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: this spot, so I'm I'm hesitant to go clones, but

767
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: I do like the matchup for them, and I'm gonna

768
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: lay the eleven.

769
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure what there is to like about

770
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: Kansas State right now, just because I think they're going

771
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: to exit the field quickly more often than not on offense.

772
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: Between the guys that they've lost, you mentioned Will Howard,

773
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: they're beat up on offense. I'm just out. I think

774
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 2: they like there. I have this stat their third three

775
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: excuse me, three and out percentage right now, thirty seven

776
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: percent of their drives and in a three and out

777
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: it's one hundred and third nationally in the in the

778
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: wrong direction. And I just think they put their own

779
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: d defense. It's such a bad alley oop. It's the

780
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: alley oop is ending up in the fourth row of

781
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: their offense, just leaving their defense out to drive far

782
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: too often. It's actually an interesting defense. But they've rushed

783
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: the passer relatively well. They've I believe forced turnovers pretty well.

784
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: I just you gotta score points and Kansas State isn't

785
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: and I don't think they can mucket up enough. So yeah,

786
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: I like I always stayd by a couple of touchdowns here,

787
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: two in a row that we agree on, indeed, get

788
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: a new world. Let's go to three point thirty and

789
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: talk about Cincinnati minus four and a half on the

790
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: road at UCF.

791
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: Dan. Cincinnati has been killing teams. They have been killing teams,

792
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: and this presents a much different matchup. I still think

793
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: I go Bearcats here. I think they're good enough on

794
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: defense to get a couple stops. They're good enough offensively

795
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: to keep this one, you know, out of reach, I'd

796
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: say from UCF for long enough period of time. I

797
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: think it's lower scoring than we've seen as of late,

798
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: really from both these schools. But if you're giving me

799
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: a chance to take Cincinnati for like more than four

800
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: and a half, I feel like that's doable, totally doable.

801
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: Give me the Bearcats.

802
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: I still very much like UCF's offense, but even with

803
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: the opt outs on both sides of the ball, UCF

804
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: the Knights defense has been pretty pedestrian this year. They've

805
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: given up far too much whereas Cincinnati is actually finding

806
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: its rhythm offense. Even though Desmond Ritter isn't necessarily a bomber,

807
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: He's completing more passes, he's keeping the offense on track,

808
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: and they run the ball well enough. I like Cincinnati

809
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: here comfortably. I mean, if I'm looking at the Bearcats

810
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: in the eye right now, I'm saying, I really really

811
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: really really really like you.

812
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Crja jebson there it is some other games

813
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: quickly here in that three point thirty four o'clock whatever slot.

814
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: Is UCLA in Oregon playing in the spot.

815
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 2: Okay, So the latest I know about this kickoff time

816
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: very strange to say, Tuesday before a Saturday game that

817
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: was actually going to be Friday night, it was moved

818
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: to Saturday. Is I saw a report from The Oregonian

819
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: that perhaps the conference was waiting on cancellation or postponement

820
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: blocks to open up to make a final decision. Which

821
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: is where you want to be. We'll put it on

822
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: our YouTube channel. Sure, if you can send us the RTMP,

823
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: we'll put it on our YouTube channel. Well, we'll figure

824
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: something out. We'll tech tech humor TI tech humor. So

825
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: the rumor I had heard was it's going to be

826
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: in the seven eastern block, but that nothing is As

827
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: of the time of this recording five oh eight Eastern time, Tuesday,

828
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: nothing is in stone yet publicly, so uh, I'm going

829
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: to roll with that timing for that game. I have

830
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: the list to here that you have put forth of

831
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: the other games. Then we can talk to you Cla

832
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: Oregon after Kentucky Bama. I actually like the points here,

833
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: thirty points.

834
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: Is that what.

835
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: Kentucky does a really really good job of limiting bigger

836
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: plays on both sides of the ball. They limit on

837
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: offensive them for themselves, and they limit other teams. Of course,

838
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: arguably Alabama's best explosive player, and it's really tough to

839
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: say for sure, but Jalen Waddle, of course out in

840
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: this game, I think Kentucky keeps it close.

841
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Points. I'll go points there.

842
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they can lose this game by twenty four, right, sure,

843
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: thirty four to ten.

844
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

845
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech PITT. I like Pitt here.

846
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't like either of these teams. I'm abstaining from

847
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: making a pick here because I have been.

848
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: You're opting out of mid level acc picking.

849
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm opting out of both teams for the remainder of

850
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: the year. I just have no feel for either.

851
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 2: I mean, they're certainly better with Kenny Pickett in there

852
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 2: than Joey Yellen, right, yeah, sure, Okay, so that's helpful.

853
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: They beat Florida State, it's what Vinnie Davis, it's double Davis, right,

854
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: double Davis backfield, Ajdave Vinnie Davis for pitt Virginia Tech.

855
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: Nice step forward on defense last week, but they lose

856
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: that game late, perhaps a letdown spot having Miami in

857
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: its clause. Okay, I don't have any thoughts about Ablin,

858
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: Christian Virginia, Oregon State. I'm going to take against Cal

859
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: another road game on short rest for CAL playing a

860
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: Sunday morning game now traveling to Corvallas, Texas minus anything

861
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: against Kansas, because that's just how I roll with the Jayhawks.

862
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: Ragent Cagn's big over Central Arkansas BYU big over North Alabama.

863
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: And I think that is the rest of the Afternoon

864
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: Windows slate and all of my related thoughts.

865
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in on the Texas minus anything against Kansas

866
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: and also Oregon State plus the points against Cal. Cal.

867
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 1: It's just such a weird situation for Cal right now.

868
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: They did not look good against UCLA, and it's obviously

869
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: due in part to circumstances. But now to go on

870
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: the road. Carvallis is always a weird place to play,

871
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: and Oregon State is many things, but they are I

872
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: think a well coached team.

873
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't love Jebia right now. I mean

874
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: I like Jamar Jefferson. I like the defense a little bit,

875
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna roll with the home team as

876
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: a dog. Why not.

877
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: And finally, let's go to the nightcap here, let's talk

878
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: about Bedlam. Dan, Okay, what do we do? Just for

879
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: the record here, it is a big rivalry. We do

880
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: have a thing that we do in a big rivalry game.

881
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: You got to toss those records.

882
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: I don't even keep them near you anywhere.

883
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Throw those records out. Not even talking records here, Dan, Okay,

884
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: what are we talking. We're talking a game in which

885
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is about a seven point home favorite, but they've

886
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: lost twice.

887
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: The records are out there, throw out, Okay, gotta throw

888
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: them out.

889
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: The Sooners have won the last five matchups. Stance, throw

890
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: the records up, just throw them out, doesn't matter them out. Yep,

891
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: this is a much different Bedlam than we are accustomed

892
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: to seeing. Oklahoma is still very good, but they are

893
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: very flawed, very flawed. I'm glad you said probably because

894
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 1: I think that's how I feel about them as well.

895
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: The offense has not been consistent enough so far this

896
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: season to paper over some of the flaws that we've

897
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: seen on defense, and I guess with that kind of

898
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: in mind, you have to try and figure out where

899
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 1: do you stand on this team because the last three

900
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: games have been dominating, probably the best three games they've

901
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: played all year, their last three wins. Not the toughest

902
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: of competition, mind you, right, but Oklahoma has seemingly improved,

903
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: seems like they've gotten better. So I've got that in mind.

904
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: I've also got Oklahoma State in mind because I think

905
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: if you're the Pokes, you've got one of two templates

906
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: that you can use if you want to try and

907
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: win here. Either stifle Oklahoma with your defense, hold them

908
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, twenty eight points, hope you

909
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: can get hold them to what thirty three? Yeah, you

910
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: like you take that approach, hold them to like twenty

911
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: eight hope you can get the thirty. Or you try

912
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: to go score for score and you beat them in

913
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: a shootout. My issue is that the Pokes aren't built

914
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: to win a shootout. That's not that's not the kind

915
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: of team that I'm seeing out there. So it falls

916
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: entirely on the defense to contain Oklahoma, and that feels

917
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: like a losing proposition to me. So I'm going Oklahoma

918
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: minus the points.

919
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go State here. I'm gonna take the defense

920
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take. I'm gonna bet against a team who

921
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: has turned the ball over still in too many high

922
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: leverage moments. If we think this is going to be

923
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: relatively close, I don't see this as being a blowout.

924
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: I know Oklahoma has improved on the ground. I think

925
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler is still quite promising, big arm, but still

926
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: a little bit too mistake prone, still a little bit

927
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 2: too tentative at times and second halves. Uh Yeah, they've

928
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: put up points, but his numbers are far from gaudy, right,

929
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: He's not. He hasn't been nearly as accurate as I

930
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: would have hoped from him given a red shirt, ear

931
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: given the system he has entered into. So yeah, I

932
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: like Oklahoma here, but I like them to just sort

933
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: of come through at the end, not distance themselves from

934
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: a I think still it'll be the best defense right

935
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: Oklahoma has faced in terms of like interesting defenses, Kansas State,

936
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: Iowa State, Texas, and TCU ish and haven't performed like

937
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: they lose to Kansas State, I mean, make plays but

938
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: lose late. They lose to Iowa State, make plays lose late.

939
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: They they beat TCU, but they don't pour on a

940
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: ton of points. Texas was four overtimes to get to

941
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: their point total. I think Oklahoma's good. I don't think

942
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: they're amazing, So I think nine points feels like too

943
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: much against a good defense. I'll take them like thirty five,

944
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: thirty one.

945
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: What do you see in it? You say you said

946
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: nine points. I got it down here. I think I

947
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: wrote nine on our initial sheet. I'm seeing it down

948
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: at seven spots, so it's.

949
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: It's jumping around Seventyeah, I'm saying, yeah, it says seven

950
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: here on Bovada. Yep, it's a touchdown or more regardless,

951
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: But I think the point still stands.

952
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: It's a valid point. And the whole thing about Oklahoma

953
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: being good but not great is just new. It's new

954
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: given where we've been the last couple of seasons and

955
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: that is, of course our pet charity, the cause for pause.

956
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. The other game I want to talk in

957
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of detail about in the nightcap? Is

958
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: it thirty? It is USC favored by a what three?

959
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm seeing here? Three? Okay? On the road against Utah.

960
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: How do we even score this one? Utah hasn't played yet.

961
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: No, they haven't. Uh, and I hope this game happens.

962
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: I hope it does. Two.

963
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm taking Utah here because USC second straight week on

964
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: the road feels like galro moments needing to come through

965
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: in the crazy way that they came through against ASU

966
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: and now Arizona and consecutive weeks, and I don't I'm

967
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: not still all that high on either one of those teams.

968
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take Utah altitude second straight road game. Yeah,

969
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: Utah is probably gonna have a rough start to their season,

970
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: but I don't know how much you need to be

971
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: smooth to beat USC right now.

972
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: I am going USC. I am going USC. Under normal circumstances.

973
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: I would one hundred percent of Utah getting three at home.

974
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: But this whole thing about starting your season late because

975
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: of COVID, odd circumstances against a team that's gotten a

976
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: little bit of a running start, even if it hasn't

977
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: been impressive. Right, I gotta go Trojans. Gotta go Trojans.

978
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: It goes against every fiber of my being. Yeah, have

979
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: fun with that. I'm not going to watch the game

980
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: ten thirty. Are you kidding me? I'm not watching this.

981
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: I'll watch this Sunday morning.

982
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: If only USC had recent history losing to a team

983
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: at altitude in Utah.

984
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: Okay, oh oh, all right, all right, have your fun,

985
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: do your worst. Okay, some other matchups here that we

986
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: need to dissect. Let's talk about Michigan minus eight against Rutgers.

987
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tennessee, about a ten point dog on

988
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: the road at Auburn, Georgia twenty four points a favorite

989
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: at home against Mississippi State. Missouri minus five on the

990
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: road against a interim Mike Bobo led South Carolina squad.

991
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: Any of those four games jump off page for you.

992
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: I think Michigan can get a net crack game in

993
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: against Rutgers.

994
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: I think.

995
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: We have seen that Michigan can perform against the bottom,

996
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: the very bottom of the conference.

997
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: Right.

998
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: We saw them perform against Minnesota. So sure is track

999
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: record for Michigan coming through. You got to score points

1000
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: against Auburn a little bit, and I don't know how

1001
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: Tennessee is fully doing that. So I like Auburn by

1002
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: a couple touchdowns there. There's nothing much to like about

1003
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: Mississippi State, though George is good. They're not invincible, But yeah,

1004
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 2: I still like Georgia there, Miszoo against the interim South

1005
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: Carolina feels fine to me, And I guess that rounds

1006
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: out that well, not fully that window. We have what Liberty,

1007
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: NC State, Arizona, Washington, Wazoo, Stanford late and UCLA Oregon somewhere.

1008
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: Around there somewhere on Saturday. Yeah, I don't.

1009
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: Again, the offer stands OURTMP hit us out pack twelve.

1010
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm gonna go Rutgers plus the points.

1011
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 3: I am.

1012
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: You have to defend this. You have to defend this though.

1013
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: You can't just go with the momentum of the universe.

1014
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: Well I can if I want to.

1015
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: It's my damn show. But vowed point. Why is this

1016
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: line only eight?

1017
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: Because Michigan's not that good at college football?

1018
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Only eight points against Rutgers. That doesn't strike you. That

1019
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: doesn't strike you as Vegas whispering into the world Rutgers

1020
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: take the scarlet kites.

1021
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: Uh you think bow Melton's gonna light up the Michigan secondary.

1022
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: You big Noah vegrol.

1023
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: Fan, I am all bored Noah's ark here, Dan, I

1024
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: am okay. I am on board with a Chiano sat

1025
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: day h.

1026
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: Rutgers can run ish pretty well. Don't make me some

1027
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: balls downfield, don't make me defend this. I'm giving you

1028
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 2: something I'm trying here.

1029
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Rutgers plus the eight at home. Let's

1030
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: make them home dog of the week. Why not wow

1031
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: the Yockers home dog of the week. I don't get

1032
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: the line that's usually the cue to steer into it.

1033
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: I like Auburn as well. I think Tennessee is approaching

1034
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: meil at in status. I will go Georgia minus the

1035
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: number and Missouri minus the number as well the other

1036
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: matchups that you mentioned here. I kind of like Liberty

1037
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: plus the points against NC State. Liberty is playing well

1038
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: a while they're playing well right now.

1039
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: I don't like Malik Wellis. I just also don't like

1040
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: the laboring talking Liberty football Arizona.

1041
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: I'll go Arizona plus points against Washington and I'll go

1042
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: Washington State plus points against Stanford. I like both of

1043
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: those picks.

1044
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: Washington State extremely fun to watch, and you know, the

1045
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: collection of people watching this game what they're going to

1046
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: be called ty Late at night eleven pm Eastern Owl

1047
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: City featuring Carly ray Jepson. Because Washington State's offense, that

1048
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: run and shoot's always a good time.

1049
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow.

1050
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington quarterback Dylan Morrison. That just the entire passing

1051
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: game for Washington. It might improve. It wasn't all that

1052
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: fun to watch last week. So I'm gonna take Arizona

1053
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: in the points here. I think they can run on

1054
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: Washington a little much like Oregon State did. I actually

1055
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: did go back and forth with UCLA Oregon, and I

1056
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: do that because the back half of Oregon's defense is

1057
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: because of those opt outs, right. They lose three of

1058
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: their four guys in the secondary. They lost Samson Knew

1059
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: not playing this year. He was an inside linebacker who

1060
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: contributed a bunch. One of their prize inside linebackers is

1061
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: now out for the season. I saw a report on

1062
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: Twitter justin Flow at five star, one of their five stars,

1063
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: and they're tackling has been pretty awful in that back end.

1064
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: There are definite guys to pick on, and Chip Kelly,

1065
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: if nothing else, is exceptional at finding dudes to pick on.

1066
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: And I don't love Ucla, but they've generated some big

1067
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: plays against not amazing competition, and Oregon should comfortably win

1068
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: this game. I'm just I'm more and more worried about

1069
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: the lack of dudes on Oregon's defense in that back seven,

1070
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: essentially other than Diamidor Lenor who returned. So I actually

1071
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: had Ucla. But it's a short week on the road

1072
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: at odds and it's gonna be cold. I'm gonna go

1073
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: Oregon here to comfortably croc pot this game because they're

1074
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: wins this year, as comfortable as they've been have been

1075
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: in spite of turning the ball over a bunch, and

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Speaker 2: I think the randomness of turnovers is going to bounce

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Speaker 2: Organ's way this week. So I'm gonna go with Oregon here,

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Speaker 2: Like forty seven to twenty, I like Oregon as well.

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Speaker 1: I like them big, although Ucla I think has been

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: better in the early going then than I expected. They

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Speaker 1: looked more capable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you take away those the crazy turnover

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01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: short fields against Colorado, we're probably singing a different tune

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01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: about Ucla at now two and zero rather than that

1085
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: shootout loss to Colorado. But listen when your clunkers, and

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Speaker 2: Ucla most certainly did not.

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Speaker 1: Three other really quick ones. We generally talk about these

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the show because we don't know

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Speaker 1: when you're listening to the show. There's a Thursday game

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Speaker 1: where Tulsa's a four and a half point home favorite

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01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: over the two lane Green Wave, and then there are

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Speaker 1: two Friday games Perdue on the road minus two and

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Speaker 1: a half three points against Minnesota and Louisville at home

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Speaker 1: against the Syracuse Orange.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if Delane could throw the ball more impressively, I

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01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: think I would like them against Tulsa. But it's a

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Speaker 2: really nice matchup for Tulsa's defense, one of the absolute

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01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: better defenses in the country. So I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 2: Tulsa to avoid the letdown spot after beating SMU. I

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Speaker 2: like Purdue against Minnesota, even though the line seems a

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01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: little bit weird considering the depths to which Minnesota has fallen.

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Speaker 2: I'm still gonna go with Purdue here and Syracuse. Interestingly enough,

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01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: they've played one road game since mid September. Just an anomaly.

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Speaker 2: I suppose of scheduling and COVID and everything like that.

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01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, that Clemson game that they actually made a

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01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: little bit interesting around the halfway point was the one

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01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: time they've played on the road since September nineteenth, when

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01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: they traveled to Pittsburgh, Georgia Tech. No game Duke Liberty

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01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: at Clemson Wake Forest, Boston College, no game at Louisville. So, Louisville,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I guess I'm gonna go with the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals here. Javian Hawkins opted out of the season, so

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01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: certainly Cardinals less explosive. But yeah, there's my Tracy Chapman

1113
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: matchup of the week. Just I needed I need a

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01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: reason beyond Syracuse's interesting enough defense that kept it close

1115
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: against Boston College. So I guess I go Louisville here.

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: I kind of hate it. I kind of hated it.

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: I didn't give you a lock. Did I know which

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01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: game did we disagree on that we've disagreed, particularly like

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: what was what was especially spicy Wisconsin Northwestern. I already

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Speaker 2: took Northwestern as my mustard's last stand home dog of

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Speaker 2: the week.

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Speaker 1: Well, I locked up both Ohio State over Indiana and

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Speaker 1: app State over Coastal Carolina, and you disagreed on both

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Speaker 1: of those. If you're really looking to go extra spicy

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Speaker 1: with it, you could go a lock on one of

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Speaker 1: those two.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Screw that? I am shouting out our

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Speaker 2: old producer, Taylor Maryland lock of the week against Michigan State,

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: because sometimes there it is, there, it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes I see numbers that I can't shake. And I

1132
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: saw that Rocky Lombardi's QBR last week against Indiana was

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: zero point three. And I don't think that defines who

1134
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: Rocky Lombardi is, fully as a quarterback and fully as

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: a human and fully as a college student. But here

1136
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: we are a few days later, and that's that number

1137
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: still bouncing around my head. So give me Maryland with

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01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: an improved offense as my lock of the week against

1139
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: Michigan State at noon in College Park. Hopefully they play

1140
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: this game after Maryland had issues last week that canceled

1141
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: the Ohio State matchup. So there's my lock of the week.

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: How about that? Ah? Well, I mean there's always a

1143
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: chance that Peyton Thorne will come in Dan in relief

1144
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: of Rocky Lombardi. That is true. Talk about Rocky, Oh

1145
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, all right, Thank you so very much for downloading,

1146
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,600
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1147
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1148
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1150
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1155
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: their progress. We pop in a bunch during the weekends

1156
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: talk college football sometimes literally talk college football and a

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Speaker 1: over to our friends with the college football Blitz Dan.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've they've been life savers for me driving around. Yeah.

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1167
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Speaker 1: like one hundred hours a day. They're just doing the

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Speaker 1: whole thing throughout the course of College Football Saturday from

1170
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: start until finish. You will enjoy it. It's sort of

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Speaker 1: the secret weapon for us as we try to carry

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01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: on our normal lives and still do this podcast. So

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Speaker 2: Are you now looking back now that you have seen

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01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: this entire preview episode and all of the e mo shin.

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Speaker 1: Involved so bad?

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 2: It was Carle Ray more of a CRJ Saturday, More

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Speaker 2: of a Sicilian Saturday. And also give me your thoughts

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: about Sicilian pizza.

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: I love Sicilian pizza, huge fantasy.

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01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: So's it's not like a deep dish, but it's a thicker, square,

1183
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: rectangular cut.

1184
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could ever get her on

1185
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: the record to admit it, but I think it's mom

1186
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: H's chosen pizza style.

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01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, she makes it in a like a pan

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: with edges and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Right, you need to make it, Yeah, you need to

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: make it in a pan with edges. And she does

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01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: make a Sicilian style pizza. But I'm just saying in general,

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Speaker 1: if you're ordering pizza from Oh Okay, that's her go

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: to from the timeless Marios Pizza mm hmm down the

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Speaker 1: street in North Antia, Pennsylvania, Sicilian would sort of be

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Speaker 1: the go to.

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Speaker 2: You've long talked about how when you go to an

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: Italian restaurant you use I think Pennela vodka as like

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: this is well, let's see what they can do when

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Speaker 2: you order penne vodka.

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01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: Right, yep, yep.

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01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: So do you do that with pizza? Do you ordered

1202
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: like straight cheese? To get a real fine concept of

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Speaker 2: the abilities of the restaurant to master the basics.

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Speaker 1: I generally will just go straight. Yeah, we'll go straight.

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01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: We'll go great cheese, We'll go pepperoni. We've talked straight cheese.

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: We've talked it just depends on moot them in. You know,

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01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: we've talked about the value of PEPs as a as

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Speaker 1: a measuring stick for pizza. I must say I did

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Speaker 1: try at a local establishment, a place that put vodka

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Speaker 1: sauce on pizza, and that was just a bad experience

1211
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: that my stomach did not, oh no, respond well to

1212
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: that choice.

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: I think you just need to go somewhere that has

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01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: a good vodka pizza.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's possible. That is also possible. What will you?

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01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: Will you cover your pizza and parmesan cheese or regano

1217
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: red pepper flakes?

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: Do you do that? I've gotten, Yeah, I've gotten. As

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: I've gotten older, I've gone a little bit more crushed

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Speaker 1: red pepper, a little spice to it, okay, add a

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01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: little bit of zaz yeah, okay, Yeah.

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: I should point out CRJ has a single. It's not

1223
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: Christmas till somebody cries came out a couple weeks ago.

1224
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: All right, well right in, let us know is it CRJ?

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: Is it Sicilian? You can tweet us, you can fleet us.

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01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing. Now, I did see that.

1227
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: I just checked our Twitter. There's a million fleets out there,

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01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: are there?

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: People are already fleeting.

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Speaker 1: People are fleeting, yes, fleet, fleet fleet.

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01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I have. I don't know what I'm

1232
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: gonna do for dinner. I will, I'll figure it out

1233
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: because I have that dough baby fermenting.

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: That's dough baby fermenting.

1235
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's.

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: All I have. Time. We should really let people go

1237
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: for that guy over there my good friend Dan Rubinstein

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01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: for myself Tye hilden Brand, thank you so much for

1239
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: playing along with us. We'll be back on Friday for

1240
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: another UFO show. To get ready for the weekend. In

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: the meantime, don't forget to give us a call four

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Speaker 1: to eight verbal one. That's four eight eight three seven

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Speaker 1: two two five one. That's the Reaver Blind this weekend

1244
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: where you can call in stream of consciousness Dan, let

1245
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: us know what's on your mind as you're watching the games.

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: We will catch you all soon. In the meantime, stay

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Speaker 1: safe and as always, stay soft peace. Carly Ray