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Speaker 2: Hey hurdlers, Emily Abadi Here you are listening to episode

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Speaker 2: three hundred and six of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast

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Speaker 2: where I talk to inspirational people about everything from their

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Speaker 2: highest ties and toughest moments to essential tips on how

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Speaker 2: go through our fair share of hurdles. My goal through

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Speaker 2: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 2: along the way. For today's episode, I am chatting with

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Speaker 2: will be if you're listening to this in real time

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Speaker 2: So all the good vibes out there Rachel, we are

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Speaker 2: rooting for you. In today's episode, we talk about so

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for Rachel. I'm so stoked for her. What

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Rachel Smith. She's a professional

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Speaker 3: You being really well?

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Speaker 1: Thanks? Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: need to give context about what's going on here. Rachel

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Speaker 2: Rachel is in her closet. It is the best place

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Speaker 2: And I also think that for myself, the gamification of

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I hope Headspace or whatever meditation app would

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Speaker 3: We gave people these tools to you.

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Speaker 2: You did mention earlier that you had to take some

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Speaker 1: I would be able to hopefully line up at the

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00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: trials and come back from it pretty quick, and even

443
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: even throughout the month that it took me to like

444
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: fully get rid of it. I was still able to

445
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: train quite a bit, but I just couldn't sprint on it.

446
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: So I had to unfortunately miss a lot of my

447
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: key racing for the season, which were all my opportunities

448
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: to kind of go after that the Olympic standards. But yeah, mentally,

449
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: I tried to stay really dialed in and like believe that, like, Okay,

450
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: next week, you know you'll be able to like sprint

451
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: on it again. And it's frustrating though. It's really frustrating

452
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: when you're on such a time sensitive schedule and like

453
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: need need things to be firing at a at a

454
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: certain time for that Olympic dream to stay alive. But

455
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: I have a great team of physios in this area

456
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: and they were so in it with me, and I

457
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: have a lot of gratitude for the ways that they

458
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: helped me get back fully. So I will be lining

459
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: up at the trials, which I'm so excited about. Just

460
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: a little bumm not to not to have more racing

461
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: under the belt and not to have had those opportunities

462
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: to really chase that standard.

463
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 3: How do you accept the things that you cannot change?

464
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Oh, not as well as I would like sometimes or

465
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: not as quick as I would like.

466
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: I love that your first response is actually like talking

467
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: to me about how it works for you, not like

468
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: practice putting into practice what the logistics are.

469
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wish, I wish I was someone

470
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: who just had immediate acceptance. Like for me, it's usually

471
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of an emotional process, like I get

472
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: like so sad, and then I'm like, okay, like have

473
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: got to like bring myself back to my center. Remember

474
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: why I'm doing this, Remember my values, Remember like to

475
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: keep gratitude at the center. And I love Buddhist philosophy

476
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: and so much of what resonates with me from Buddhism

477
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: is the art of letting things go and like non attachment.

478
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: So ultimately, after you know this process of trying to

479
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: process things, I can land on letting go of the

480
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: things outside of my control and trying to feel unattached

481
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: from outcomes and goals that are Yeah, like making the

482
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: Olympic team is a very outcome goal. Like I try

483
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: to let like be unattached to making the team and

484
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: be way more attached to you know, I'm going to

485
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: show up at the trials and how do I give

486
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: it my absolute best on that day and be really

487
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: proud of that because that's all I can do. So

488
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: it's it's a practice, and it's very unperfect.

489
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: You know what it makes me think of?

490
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: It makes me think of like goals and systems, right,

491
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: like goals typically, and I think it's James Clear that

492
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: said this, like goals are for people who care.

493
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: About winning only once.

494
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: But when you have a system, it's for someone who

495
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: either cares about winning repeatedly or has such a strong

496
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: sense of tie to their values that they can then

497
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: understand that the system is the point right. And so

498
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: for you, it's like you have these systems in place

499
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: that regardless of what happens with your goals, you can

500
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: come back.

501
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: To the system knowing that you're giving it your all.

502
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Yes, that's yeah, that's exactly how I want to be.

503
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: Like I a couple of times a year, especially as

504
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: championship season comes around, I really try to touch base

505
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: with the way that I personally define success, because so

506
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: many people will try to define success for you, and

507
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: especially in an Olympic year, success is making the Olympic team,

508
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: or getting an Olympic medal, or some very like objectively

509
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: measured thing by society, and I really don't define personal

510
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: success by that. To me, success is all about process

511
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: and ownership and the way I conduct myself on a

512
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: daily basis and the way I show up at these

513
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: competitions and the way like I evaluate, like did I

514
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: give it my best? And you know, am I in

515
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: touch with my values? And am I living that way?

516
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, when I'm like,

517
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: all right, if I really stay true to my definition

518
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: of success, it's so separate from some outcome or some

519
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: destination and that makes me feel I don't know, way

520
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: more excited to just like do what I can and

521
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: let go of the rest.

522
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and still easier said than done, right, Like, yes, yes,

523
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: you can feel and be successful if you perform at

524
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: your best at the Olympic trials, But that doesn't mean

525
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: if you don't make the Olympic team that you'll be

526
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent jumping for joytal.

527
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's I was talking about that with a

528
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: friend of you can feel like both things at once, right,

529
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: like really proud. Like so back in twenty twenty one,

530
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: when I was really doing some evaluation on how certain

531
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: outcomes might feel and how I like could stay true

532
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: to my definition of success. Like I was like, okay

533
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: if I got fourth place, but I know that was

534
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: everything I could do, Like I hope I would feel

535
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: super proud and would define that as success, but I

536
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: also know there would be some sadness that I like

537
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: miss making the Olympic team by one place, and and

538
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: I think that's totally there's space for that, right, Like

539
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: you can feel everything all at once, but ultimately, like

540
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I do think that the way I want to always

541
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: like define my personal success is based on like my

542
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: values and the way that I see the way that

543
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: I performed and conducted myself. But don't get me wrong,

544
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: like the joy and the excitement and the honor that

545
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: comes from making the Olympic team, and just that like experiences,

546
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: it's okay to feel sad if you just miss it.

547
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: That word both, right.

548
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: There have been so many instances for me personally lately

549
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: where I am living in duality.

550
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: I just had a birthday.

551
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: I was so happy and grateful to celebrate it with friends,

552
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: many of which traveled very far to come, which was

553
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: completely unexpected and unnecessary because it wasn't like a big, round,

554
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: shiny number. But with that said, so blessed to have

555
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: their support and love. And also I got home at

556
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: the end of the weekend and walked in alone by

557
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 2: myself and felt like this deep sadness. I was like,

558
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm alone, all my people are gone, and

559
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: it was like I was both so grateful for my

560
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: experiences and also like profoundly sad about being home alone.

561
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

562
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: It's like, I can recognize that I have so much

563
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: excitement and joy and beauty and wonderful things happening for

564
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: me right now, and I can also experience completely normal

565
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: human emotions of feeling lonely and wondering what else is

566
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: going to happen in my life.

567
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: And so it's that word of both.

568
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: It's the sentiment of knowing that both is okay and

569
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: both is entirely normal to experience. You just have to

570
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: have compassion for yourself knowing that it's okay, it's okay

571
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: to experience both, and no one gets to articulate or

572
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: tell you like what emotion or path is right, that's

573
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: completely up to you.

574
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, one hundred percent. I love I love

575
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: that story you just shared, because that really is like

576
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: the human experience and capacity and It's the beauty of

577
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: being human that we can experience so many emotions all

578
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: at once, and they can be really contrasting emotions. One

579
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: of my favorite books is written by an author named

580
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: Steph Katchidall, and her book's called Everything All at Once,

581
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: And it's like her journey of navigating grief and tragedy

582
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: but also joy and becoming and you can feel all

583
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: those things all at once, Like you can feel like

584
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: your life is so rich with friendship, and you can

585
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: also feel lonely, and you can experience that right at

586
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: the same time.

587
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: Right at the same time, right at the same time.

588
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: I would love, if it's okay with you to go

589
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: back and double click a little bit on your journey

590
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: to having your daughter. I know that it was complicated

591
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: and certainly had many hurdles. Now you're so happy to

592
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: be in this role, in this stage of your life.

593
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: We were chatting about themes of grief before.

594
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about how it felt

595
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: for you after you did miscarry the first time, knowing

596
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: that you did really want this so badly for your family.

597
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was, honestly, that was the hardest and darkest

598
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: period of my life, because, yeah, I just I wanted

599
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: and wanted to meet that baby so badly, and I

600
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: wanted to be come a mom and I couldn't wait

601
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: to see my partner become a dad. And to experience

602
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: that loss was just, oh it was. It was traumatic,

603
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Like it was a very physically and emotionally traumatic experience.

604
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'll never really forget how tough and just

605
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: just challenging that was. And it paired with me as

606
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: a professional runner. It really highlighted that, you know, the

607
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: loss of this baby coincided with the loss of my

608
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: ability to pursue my passion because I couldn't I couldn't

609
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: race that season. I had just come off a year

610
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: where I made the Olympic team and I was at

611
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: the peak of my career and felt like I was

612
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: ready to run faster than I ever had, and we

613
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: got the pregnancy. Was a surprise, but it was the

614
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: happiest surprise, and I was like, all right, like, you know,

615
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to sit out this next season, and

616
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: which was already like sad in a way because I

617
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: was like so like love love love competing, So I

618
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: was like sad to miss to miss the racing season,

619
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: but it was for the best reason, you know, we

620
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: were growing a family. But when we lost that baby

621
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: or lost that pregnancy, it just also made me grieve

622
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: not being able to like do my job and to

623
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: do what I love even more So I really struggled

624
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: during that time. And I did some things well, and

625
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: I didn't do some things well, Like we talked earlier

626
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: about like really leaning on your people, and and I

627
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: did that, but I also think I needed to like

628
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: probably stick with myself and my feelings more like I

629
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: tried to just pour myself into other people and wasn't

630
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: probably like allowing myself to feel my pain in the

631
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: healthiest way, and it would come out in ways that

632
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: probably wasn't as healthy. And yeah, grief is Grief is

633
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: a really tricky thing because it can come up in

634
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: ways that we don't even understand and can affect relationships

635
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: in ways that we don't mean it too. So I uh, yeah,

636
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: I look back on that time and just acknowledge that

637
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: it was a super painful time in my life and

638
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: for my partner as well obviously, But it really made

639
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: me also see how much I wanted to pursue starting

640
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: our family and yeah, my husband and I, where is

641
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: that first pregnancy was a surprise. We were like, you know,

642
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: let's be all in on starting our family, and fortunately

643
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: we were able to get pregnant pretty quickly. And fast

644
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: forward to another year later. We welcomed Nova Nova to

645
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: Nova to the world in April of last year. You know,

646
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: so last year I also missed the track season, but

647
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: this time is for the best reason, and it has

648
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: been just the biggest gift and the biggest joy to

649
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: have her with us.

650
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

651
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: Wow, what a what a beautiful you know, commemoration of

652
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: what you've been through, and thank you for sharing that.

653
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: I think that it's so not only relatable to hear

654
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: about the struggles that you experienced, but also that really

655
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: intimate reflection that you have knowing that, hey, I handled

656
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: some things at times during this really difficult time for

657
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: me in a way that maybe looking back, I'm not

658
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: actually that proud of. But knowing that, recognizing that, and

659
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: then again learning from that, and I think that that

660
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: is what the important lesson is always from our most

661
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Speaker 2: difficult moments. It's like, if you have the opportunity to

662
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Speaker 2: at least learn from something, then it is up to

663
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: you to grab hold of that. It is entirely understandable

664
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Speaker 2: that when you're going through something that's extremely traumatic and

665
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: you're dealing with grief, that you might not act in

666
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: a way that always makes you proud. That happens, that's

667
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: being women. But what happens when you do have the

668
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: time to come back into yourself, do you have the

669
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Speaker 2: know how to look back and at least reflect on that?

670
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: I think that is really where the beauty is in

671
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: the most difficult things that we go through.

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Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, thanks, thanks for saying all that, because

673
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: it's so true. I really I think I'm not a

674
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: fan of the phrase like everything happens for a reason,

675
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: but you can give meaning to the experiences that happen

676
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: or to the tragedies that occur, And that's like, that's

677
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: kind of the way I always want to navigate through things,

678
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: is not so much like looking for the reason behind,

679
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: Like you know, I really struggle with the idea that

680
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: children get cancer for a reason, or I mean, there's

681
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: so much, so much tragedy on this planet every day,

682
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, that is I don't think there

683
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: is necessarily a reason behind all of it. But how

684
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: can we make meaning from these really hard, traumatic things?

685
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: And hopefully we can you know, move forward in a

686
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: way that gives meaning to whatever tragedy happens.

687
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, thanks, yeah, of course, and also like reflective

688
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: in the way that you move forward of the person

689
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: that you are and your values. We're going back to

690
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: the way that we determine success, like success after grief,

691
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: success after trauma is then you understanding how do I

692
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: move forward in a way that serves me and the

693
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: people that I care about. For you, now, a year

694
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: plus into motherhood, give me the peach and give me

695
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: the pit.

696
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it is better than I ever imagined. She is, like, yeah,

697
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: I can't I can't even put it in words, like

698
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: the feelings of Like I've heard people say like you

699
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: can't understand love like that until you experience it, and

700
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: I always thought that was like very cliche, But I'm like,

701
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I didn't know my heart could expand

702
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: and like feel the depth that it does just just

703
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: watching her and you know, she's almost fourteen months now,

704
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: and she just has such personality and is like so

705
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: playful and so goofy, and I could just like the

706
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: joy I get from watching her explore the world and

707
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: learn how to walk and interact with animals and it's yeah,

708
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: like she is the like if I'm ever feeling sad,

709
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: I like spend a couple of minutes with her and

710
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: snuggle her, and I'm like, oh man, my life is

711
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: it's this is the best, Like I yeah, like being

712
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: a mom will always be like the most important thing

713
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: I'll ever be And yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: That's the peach.

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Speaker 1: The pit is. Uh, it's challenging, like especially as a

716
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: professional athlete, Like you know, I used to like really

717
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: protect my sleep and be like all right, like I am.

718
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: Sleep is such a performance enhancer, and this past year

719
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: my sleep has been so compromised and so all over

720
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: the place. And that is challenging when it comes to

721
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Speaker 1: trying to train and and perform at an Olympic caliber

722
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: level level. And then yeah, there's just other like minor

723
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: challenges that that don't feel I don't know, they're not

724
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: that big of a deal, but you know, like traveling

725
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: with a baby is definitely a very like different thing

726
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: than when you're just traveling on your own. And and

727
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: like you know, she's going through developmental stages that can

728
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: be like hard and confusing for her, like when she

729
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: gets teething pains or when she gets a cold, like

730
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Speaker 1: it's just you can like see she's uncomfortable and like

731
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: can't explain it. So yeah, anyways, I could like ramble

732
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: on and on and on about this past year and

733
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: the joys, the highs and and the hardships, but it

734
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: is it is, oh man, I can't imagine life without her.

735
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Speaker 3: It's it's the best. It's the best, you know.

736
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Speaker 2: It's so interesting also hearing about all of the different

737
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: things that you need to take into account or now

738
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: that you experienced because you've chosen to expand your family

739
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: and also continue to.

740
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: Compete at this level.

741
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: Not all that long ago, I was at Campstrava and

742
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: Gabby Thomas gave the keynote, and she's talking about how

743
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: it is without negotiation that every night she does get

744
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: between eight and nine hours of sleep. And this is

745
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: someone who has had her own fair set of challenges,

746
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: but very different than yours. And so it's interesting to

747
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: think about the choices that many women make, especially within

748
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 2: running as they get older, and the fact that these

749
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: days it is not all that common to see many

750
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: mothers showing up towing the line to compete in their

751
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: chosen event. Whether we're talking about someone like Alison Felix

752
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: who did it in the shorter distances, or you know,

753
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: all the way up to the marathon and beyond with

754
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Kira Demato. For you being in such good company, now,

755
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: how does it feel for you to see other mothers

756
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: out there going after it alongside you.

757
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you asked that it is. It's then

758
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: so beautiful to do this alongside so many other phenomenal

759
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: professional runners. Like it really does feel like there's kind

760
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: of been this like shift in the way that we

761
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: are supporting mothers and female athletes, and it's not the

762
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: end of our careers, Like it's actually just it's a

763
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: it's a chapter and we can come back stronger and

764
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: we can we can pursue both, and we can pursue

765
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: both at a really high level. I really look up

766
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: to like Ellie Saint Pierre and Abby dou Gastino and

767
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: people that came before us to like Steph Bruce and

768
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: Sarah Hall and so many, so many women faith Kippie Hagen.

769
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Speaker 1: I mean, there are countless female mother athletes who have

770
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: paved the way and who are choosing to like put

771
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: their running career on hold very temporarily and then continue

772
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: to like pursue it at the highest of levels, and

773
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: I love that I am not unique in this like

774
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: it is. It is like you're saying, like, there's a

775
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: lot of other women who are doing this, and it's

776
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: been really fun to share share our journeys together. Just

777
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: the other week, Abby Augustino and Ellie Saint Pierre and

778
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I all got our babies together because they were in

779
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: flag staff training and we just had so much fun

780
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: seeing our kids like in the park and talking about

781
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: motherhood and a little bit about running. But it's a

782
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: gift to share it and to be influenced by them.

783
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: And I've also just want to give a huge shout

784
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: out to the other like amazing, amazing moms in my

785
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: inner circle who have been the biggest source of inspiration,

786
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: like my own mom, my mother in law, my sister,

787
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: and my sister in laws are like the strongest, most

788
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: incredible women who have also pursued careers throughout their motherhood

789
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: journey and like shown me that you can you can

790
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: do both, and you can do both really really well.

791
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: And I just have so much appreciation for having such

792
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: amazing role models in my life.

793
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: So many amazing women to look up to and to

794
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: lean on as well.

795
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the word chapter.

796
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: Have you had to give this chapter of your life

797
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: right now a title?

798
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: Rachel, what would you give it?

799
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: Love that question?

800
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: Man? I would?

801
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: I want to spend some time on that.

802
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: But man, looking from the outside, looking in, like I

803
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: just feel as though there's so much tenacity, and you

804
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: have such a tenacious nature about you. I hear about

805
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 2: your passion and your drive, and it's like as many

806
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: hurdles that have been thrown your way since the last

807
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: Olympic cycle, you've shown up time and time again with

808
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: such a persistent and optimistic lens when it didn't always

809
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 2: feel that way for you. And so I guess that's why,

810
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: at least from my pov, I look at this chapter

811
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: as tenacity.

812
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: I like it. We'll go with that here. I am.

813
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: I love it tenacity.

814
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm not planning on writing a book, but if I ever.

815
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: Was, I'm here to help. I'm here to help first

816
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: writing at a call, all right, the Tenacity chapter. The

817
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: question then comes whether or not you make this Olympic team,

818
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: and obviously we're rooting for you to do. So what

819
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: do you foresee the plan to be after this summer?

820
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, I probably almost live in the present to

821
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: a like fault. My husband and I are not the

822
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: best at like planning too far ahead. But I missed

823
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: racing so so much while I was Yeah, from the

824
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Glass Olympics to hear, I really missed it. So I

825
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: am looking forward to some really good racing throughout the

826
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: summer in the fall. Whether that's on the track or

827
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: the road's probably a combination of both, but looking forward

828
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: to that, looking forward to a lot of quality time

829
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: with family and friends. I definitely am, yeah, craving that

830
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: this summer. And Mike already has an athlete and he's

831
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: a dear teammate of mine. Luis Garhalva has already made

832
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: the Olympic team, and they're a handful of others that

833
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: we work with who have really awesome shots at making

834
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: it to Paris. So whether I'm on the team or not,

835
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: I really hope to be in Paris, supporting, supporting friends,

836
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: and supporting my partner. He is like the most amazing,

837
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: selfless coach and father and partner of Yeah, it's a

838
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: huge gift to witness his work and I would love

839
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: to be there, like on the sidelines, if not on

840
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the track. So yeah, looking forward to Paris looking forward

841
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: to personal racing, and yeah, you.

842
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: Know that's a really interesting attitude because yes, I would

843
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: also want to go to Paris support my partner. Totally understandable,

844
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: But depending on what happens, could that be a difficult

845
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 2: thing for you?

846
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

847
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: The last two years have had actually quite a bit

848
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: of practice in that, in like really being able to

849
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: feel these two things at once, like genuine joy and

850
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: excitement and just like pride for what my partner and

851
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: my friends are doing, and like I feel like their

852
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: successes are in some ways like my successes, like I

853
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: can feel them so deeply as even though they're not mine.

854
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: But then there's also sometimes the sadness of oh I

855
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: so want to be out there and this heartbreak of

856
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: not getting to do what you want to do. So

857
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: it can be both at once, but I'm sure it

858
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: would have its hard moments of like, you know, I

859
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: got so close to being back on the Olympic stage,

860
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: and if I'm not there, There'll probably be some sadness,

861
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: but then also some really really genuine deep joy for

862
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: my friends and for my partner.

863
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: Genuine deep joy.

864
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Speaker 2: You know, you have been so eloquent in talking about

865
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: the highs and the lows from the last year. When

866
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: you think about these friends that have helped carry you

867
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: through this journey, what would you say some of the

868
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: best advice has been that you've been offered as you

869
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: got back into the swing of things.

870
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: Honestly, the best advice sometimes comes from people not in

871
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: the sport and not in the circle, and they're like

872
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: the ones that can like really almost have like this

873
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: refreshing perspective and help you step outside of it and

874
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: really just offer wisdom that I so need to hear,

875
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: because when you're in it, it's hard to see that. Like,

876
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: sometimes it really is so smart to just like remind

877
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: yourself that, like you're on your own journey or not

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Speaker 1: on anybody else's, and all you can do is, like, folks,

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Speaker 1: on the things in your control. And that's honestly, some

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Speaker 1: of the best advice is to just like not compare

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00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: yourself to previous versions of yourself and not compare yourself

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Speaker 1: to anyone else, and to just focus on what you

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Speaker 1: can do each day, and then ultimately to just really

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Speaker 1: like have deep appreciation for it and remember that it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a gift to be able to do this,

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Speaker 1: and especially to be able to do this with my

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Speaker 1: husband and my daughter and my extended family and friends

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Speaker 1: all in it with me.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: Now someone comes to your Instagram page, they see a

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Speaker 2: professional runner and a mom and someone who has big

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Speaker 2: Olympic dreams. When you look in the mirror, Rachel, what

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Speaker 2: is it that you see looking back at you.

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Speaker 1: I see someone who's trying, like I I think when

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Speaker 1: I see myself, I say, it's it's far far from perfection.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, oh, man, like you could be doing

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Speaker 1: this and this and this better or but you know,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm trying, and I'm trying hard, and I'm

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Speaker 1: trying in a way that I I feel really proud of.

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Speaker 1: Like I really feel like this past year, I've put

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Speaker 1: my daughter and my family as my number one priority

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Speaker 1: and I'm really proud of that. And then I have

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Speaker 1: tried really really hard to get back to my passion

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Speaker 1: and to do it at a high level. And I

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Speaker 1: feel really proud of the way that, Yeah, I've poured

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Speaker 1: my heart into things I value.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so special to hear.

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Speaker 2: And also, like I hear in the way that you speak,

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Speaker 2: like the amount of effort that has gone into that try, right,

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Speaker 2: Like it hasn't been easy, but you didn't sign up

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Speaker 2: for easy.

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Speaker 3: For so many.

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Speaker 2: People who can sympathize with that, I'm really trying here

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Speaker 2: and sometimes feel like they get knocked down by how

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Speaker 2: difficult it is. How do you keep trying? Where do

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Speaker 2: you feel like that resilience comes from?

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Speaker 1: Ah, that's an awesome question. I really feel like I've

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Speaker 1: learned that and seen it modeled in my family ever

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Speaker 1: since I was young, and I I really think there's

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Speaker 1: so many examples of resiliency in my siblings, in my parents,

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Speaker 1: in my partner, in my friends who I almost don't

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Speaker 1: know any other way but to try and to pour

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Speaker 1: my heart and my effort into the people and the

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Speaker 1: passions that I'm pursuing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, comes from family. I absolutely love to hear that well.

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Speaker 2: As you know, we are excited to cheer you on

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Speaker 2: this episode is coming out on the day of the

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Speaker 2: final I am going to be in Eugene and I'll

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Speaker 2: be cheering for you. So I'm so excited to not

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Speaker 2: only follow you along in this chapter of your journey,

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Speaker 2: but continue to follow along as we progress, not only

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Speaker 2: in this summer but beyond. For those that don't follow

933
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Speaker 2: along with you, just yet Rachel give us the info,

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Speaker 2: how do they keep up with you?

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Speaker 3: Tell us everything?

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for all the support and the cheers.

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Speaker 1: I'll take all the good vibes I can get heading

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Speaker 1: into the trials and hopefully fingers cross in that final.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at rach Schneid eighteen and outside of that,

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Speaker 1: I'm really not on any other platforms.

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Speaker 3: I'd feel like Instagram is my go to right now.

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Speaker 2: If you had to offer yourself a piece of advice

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Speaker 2: looking back on the toughest moments within the last few years,

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Speaker 2: knowing what you know now, what would you say to yourself.

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Speaker 1: I would really want myself to be super present at

946
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Speaker 1: the trials and to soak it all in because I

947
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Speaker 1: wasn't able to race at the last two outdoor ussays

948
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Speaker 1: and I so badly missed it and I wanted to

949
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Speaker 1: be out there. So even though I know I will

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Speaker 1: be feeling all the nerves on that start line and

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Speaker 1: in the lead up to it, I keep reminding myself,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, make sure that you like just take

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Speaker 1: moments to soak it in and appreciate it and to

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Speaker 1: just like actually feel the joy and the yeah, all

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Speaker 1: the good stuff that comes from getting to be out

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Speaker 1: there and not get consumed by the nerves or the

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Speaker 1: anxiety or any of the tough stuff.

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Speaker 3: Like all the good stuff, all the good stuff ahead

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Hurdle Podcast and at Emily Abodi another

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Speaker 2: hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.