Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two ninety one,
Speaker 1: Episode three of Dally's Guys Yeah.
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Speaker 1: He is a best selling author. He is an Emmy
Speaker 1: winning writer for Last week Time Night with John Oliver.
Speaker 1: He co hosts the podcast Quick Question with Sworn and Daniel.
Speaker 1: Please welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2: Daniel O'Brien, Hello, thank you so much for that intro
Speaker 2: one for having me and uh, I really gosh, I
Speaker 2: don't want it to give you notes right off the top,
Speaker 2: but hopefully what a de escalation of excitement when you
Speaker 2: go from veterinary pathologists to Domino's pizza delivery driver.
Speaker 1: But he was so interesting. Oh okay, can I can
Speaker 1: I interest you in this fact? Once every couple months,
Speaker 1: people come to the door with their shirt on but
Speaker 1: nothing else. Really, Yeah, different groups of people, Like it's
Speaker 1: not always the same, you know, flasher and they don't
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. It's not because like his theory was that
Speaker 1: they're just too high and they're like they they forget
Speaker 1: they're not wearing pants, but they don't even like once
Speaker 1: they've had the transaction, they're not like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what have I done? You know again, that's like a
Speaker 1: stress dream for me, But like you always realize halfway
Speaker 1: through that you don't have the pants on it. But
Speaker 1: I think it's just where flashers and other kinds of
Speaker 1: you know, people with strange, you know, perversions have gone
Speaker 1: to get their kicks.
Speaker 2: There was that one episode of High Maintenance where a
Speaker 2: character was doing that over and over again, just as
Speaker 2: like I think it was Catherine Cohen, but don't quote
Speaker 2: me on that who played it. But she would just
Speaker 2: like hang an errand tit out to make people look
Speaker 2: at like in a convenience store like whatever. Someone was
Speaker 2: delivering something to her house, and it was clearly a
Speaker 2: thing that she just like loved doing, just like a fun,
Speaker 2: little little prank that she enjoyed at like someone a
Speaker 2: regular delivery person opened the door and saw her breast
Speaker 2: out and I'm just like, come on, like he's seen
Speaker 2: it all the time. He's just sick about it.
Speaker 3: To deal with it, please, I got a lot of tables.
Speaker 1: Man, how are you doing, Daniel. It's great to see
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell that lie. Yeah, it's good to
Speaker 1: see you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you. Thanks, I'm good, it's good to
Speaker 2: be here. I've been hanging out in Los Angeles for
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, and we'll continue for the
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. Just like a month trip back
Speaker 2: to my old stomping ground, and it's a complete betrayal
Speaker 2: of the promise of what LA is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: It's been really gloomy. Yeah, cold, it's very unfortunate.
Speaker 3: Well, it's going to turn up this weekend though, at
Speaker 3: least there's that Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be warm.
Speaker 1: I just I just checked that day's weather report. I
Speaker 1: like to be surprised, and I have Friday by House.
Speaker 3: Seventy four, Friday eighty Saturday in like high seventies next week.
Speaker 3: All right, Oh yeah, we're getting back to it, regressing
Speaker 3: to the meat.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Daniel, we're going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, a
Speaker 1: couple of the things that we're talking about. The Jack
Speaker 1: Smith merch is here. We are lionizing Jack Smith as
Speaker 1: a culture. There's T shirts, that's it's mainly T shirts
Speaker 1: at this point, but like T shirts with his picture
Speaker 1: looking like he's like an mm A fighter or something.
Speaker 3: So we're we're just.
Speaker 1: Gonna look at the latest idol of the neolibs to like,
Speaker 1: since Mueller, I think he's a little bit more He's
Speaker 1: gonna satisfy a little bit more than Mueller in terms
Speaker 1: of like who he actually is, So we'll talk about him.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about a TikToker who is like kind of
Speaker 1: pulling to George Bluth but sad. Yeah, where he's like
Speaker 1: teaching lessons to people, but the lesson is like I'm
Speaker 1: a narcissist.
Speaker 3: And you and your feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we might talk about Netflix finally opening a
Speaker 1: Netflix themed restaurant. What we've been we've been calling for
Speaker 1: it for years. And another thing we've been calling for
Speaker 1: for years, a comedy fantasy camp with Jay Leno and
Speaker 1: Adam Corolla.
Speaker 3: Got my tickets? You signed up?
Speaker 1: Jack?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's says so. The description
Speaker 1: says comedy fans aspiring stand up comedians and television writers
Speaker 1: take note. So Daniel eager to hear about, like which
Speaker 1: week you're going to as a television writer.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm teaching an entire masterclass about I don't want
Speaker 2: to give it away completely, but it's about how it's
Speaker 2: time to cancel cancel culture.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I just think it's time.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that they threw television writers. Television writers. You're
Speaker 1: gonna want to come hang out with Adam Carolla and
Speaker 1: Jay Leno. Yeah, well, we'll talk about all that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Daniel O'Brien, what is something from your search
Speaker 1: history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 2: Unkillable plants. I have recently moved to a new apartment
Speaker 2: in my home in Jersey, and it's a really nice space,
Speaker 2: and I want to make it look nice. And because
Speaker 2: I've been living in a different I've been out and
Speaker 2: ground for a while and I've been living in like
Speaker 2: a furnished house with somebody else's stuff for the last
Speaker 2: couple of years. So now i have, like my the
Speaker 2: apartment that I want to be my home for the
Speaker 2: foreseeable future, and I'm really committed to making it look
Speaker 2: nice and not shitty. And I'm taking notes from like
Speaker 2: other people's houses that I like a whole lot and
Speaker 2: one of the things that makes me feel really warm
Speaker 2: and positive when I'm in someone's house just like a
Speaker 2: whole lot of plants. I've killed every plant I've ever had, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't just like a reverse et you walk into
Speaker 1: the room and they yeah, crumble it.
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, And so I don't want to get fake
Speaker 2: plants because that defeats the purpose for me. And so
Speaker 2: I was just like tooling around, what are the hardest
Speaker 2: plants to kill? And I will either have nice plants
Speaker 2: or I'll kill these too. And that's kind of impressive
Speaker 2: in its.
Speaker 1: Own Yeah, yeah, is it? Are we looking at cacti?
Speaker 1: What's the internet's advice on the hardiest plant?
Speaker 2: First, A lot of people say snake plants.
Speaker 3: Doesn't say snake plant, that's hard.
Speaker 2: Number one on the list is seeming to go hard
Speaker 2: cast iron plant, which like by name alone excites me.
Speaker 2: That's I feel like that's what I should be working with.
Speaker 1: There are no leaves on it. It just looks like
Speaker 1: a dead shrub. But it's like the bristle cone pine.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen those?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What? Bristle cone pine are the oldest living things on
Speaker 1: the planet Earth, and like they've they've been around. There's
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Medusa up in like Bishop in California. I've
Speaker 1: seen some of them in person, and they look dead.
Speaker 1: They like the deadest plant you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like to the point where you're like,
Speaker 3: that can't be growing.
Speaker 1: But they're they're like alive on the inside. They're truly
Speaker 1: like beautiful things. But they look like beautiful like sculptures.
Speaker 1: They don't look like living plants.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there are those little gravy monsters that Ursula
Speaker 2: creates a Little Mermaid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the little gravvy monsters that she creates. Did
Speaker 1: you see the live action remake? By the way I did,
Speaker 1: it was so bad? What did you like it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't see it? Okay, it was surprised by that.
Speaker 2: Here's one of the the strange ways that the sick
Speaker 2: disease of nostalgia works on people is I get back
Speaker 2: to la where I used to live for a long time,
Speaker 2: and the first thing I did was like, what am
Speaker 2: I gonna What am I gonna do? What did I
Speaker 2: used to do here? And I went to a movie
Speaker 2: theater by myself to watch Little Mermaid because that was
Speaker 2: a thing I just love going to the movies. And
Speaker 2: the Westwood the IPIC in Westwood is so comfortable and wonderful.
Speaker 2: They got the reclining chairs, you get food delivered right
Speaker 2: to your chair. And it was like less than twelve
Speaker 2: hours into my time in Los Angeles, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see Little Mermaid at two o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look good. I bet it's not good, and
Speaker 2: I was right good.
Speaker 1: This Yeah, that's where I saw the whole this whole
Speaker 1: movement kick off.
Speaker 3: That's where I saw the Jungle Book remake.
Speaker 1: Oh. For some reason, that theater, by the way, feels
Speaker 1: the least like a movie theater of any movie theater
Speaker 1: I've ever been. It Like it just I paid in general,
Speaker 1: that one and Brown with I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: been to other epics, but that one in particular feels
Speaker 1: like you're just in someone big living room. Like I've
Speaker 1: been to movie theaters that have the nice reclining chairs
Speaker 1: and like the food that gets delivered and like usually
Speaker 1: it doesn't fuck with me, but like that one in particular,
Speaker 1: I don't know if like they have low ceilings or something,
Speaker 1: but it just it doesn't feel like a movie theater
Speaker 1: to me, right.
Speaker 3: Like in like yeah, ikea lamps and stuff like on
Speaker 3: the ground it like, yeah, that's like the walk way.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Dan, there's like these I saw.
Speaker 3: There's like these businesses that are for people who are
Speaker 3: like I can't keep a fucking plant alive if my
Speaker 3: life depended on it. And it's basically now ushered in
Speaker 3: a business where like they've created the kinds of pots
Speaker 3: where it's like, dude, just keep the water level on
Speaker 3: the side to.
Speaker 2: This, are you talking about easy Plant?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not trying to give any promo, okay,
Speaker 3: but yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either they don't pay us, so we will we
Speaker 1: will not give them promo.
Speaker 3: But have you wait, have you killed an easy well?
Speaker 3: I mean all that's say you've killed with them? No?
Speaker 2: Not yeah, but that like that came up on my
Speaker 2: head first. Stupid more on Instagram at algorithm feed, right, right,
Speaker 2: you've done enough googling on this that like we think
Speaker 2: you will be interested in this, in this fool proof
Speaker 2: plant situation. Yeah, the science is you don't even put water.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna let you put water on the plant itself.
Speaker 2: You put the water in a little jar and we
Speaker 2: distribute it as we see fit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a trust for your water.
Speaker 1: And the little mermaid just going back to that, Sorry,
Speaker 1: is your problem with it?
Speaker 3: Was one of the problems with it.
Speaker 1: The cast, the fact that we have the lead characters
Speaker 1: is a crab, like an actual crab without the ability
Speaker 1: to emote or is it your whole anti cancel culture
Speaker 1: you know that thing and your issue with the casting.
Speaker 2: It's so it's it's crazy that you found the exact
Speaker 2: right thing that it was, specifically the crab. Have people
Speaker 2: been talking about the crab?
Speaker 1: Because I have been talking about the crab since they
Speaker 1: like talked about the concept of doing this as a
Speaker 1: live action thing. I've been like, how the fuck are
Speaker 1: you gonna make it? Because that was my problem with
Speaker 1: the Lion King one. Yeah, was that, like, the animals
Speaker 1: can't emote, so it's like a diminished version of every
Speaker 1: cartoon that has animals in it.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: There was so much chatter ahead of this movie about
Speaker 2: how off putting Flounder looked, and it's and it's true,
Speaker 2: Flounder looks, looks weird, he looks too much like a
Speaker 2: fish in a movie for children. Uh, and truly not
Speaker 2: enough chatter about how bizarre Sebastian the Crab looked. It's
Speaker 2: very unpleasant. He can emote, it's a it's a crab
Speaker 2: that looks like a crab with two cartoon google eyes
Speaker 2: on top of it. Yeah, and he's he's got two
Speaker 2: fucking songs. He's in so much of this movie, and
Speaker 2: it's it's really.
Speaker 3: Can even smile in this little crab mouth or no, no,
Speaker 3: so like what would you do for like raised eyebrows
Speaker 3: do like the little googly eyes on top get bigger?
Speaker 3: Or they just kind of like is it truly? Like?
Speaker 3: This is what we get when you look at it?
Speaker 2: This is what we get. Yeah, what you're saying is
Speaker 2: what we get.
Speaker 3: That's it so bad?
Speaker 1: From the This gives me such joy to hear you
Speaker 1: say that that was a major.
Speaker 3: Problem with the movie.
Speaker 1: Fucking crab, man, fucking crab. What is something, Daniel that
Speaker 1: you think is overrated?
Speaker 2: Will continue the thread of me being back in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles billboards. I again famously lived here for eleven years,
Speaker 2: and there are so many billboards in Los Angeles, and
Speaker 2: they just sort of become part of the background, part
Speaker 2: of the skyline. And I went from there to New
Speaker 2: York and then which also has a lot of billboards,
Speaker 2: and then New York to New Jersey where I live now,
Speaker 2: which has very few billboards. I live on the beach,
Speaker 2: there's really nothing. And when I when you come to
Speaker 2: LA after being away for a while, it's really jarring
Speaker 2: just how many billboards there are everywhere. If you were
Speaker 2: an alien landing here, you would think it would. We
Speaker 2: were all just completely insane because where I'm at now,
Speaker 2: Santa Monica, West, LA, there's just everywhere you look giant
Speaker 2: billboards for the Bear on FX or Hulu. It's not
Speaker 2: an effective advertisement. Yeah, I think both actually okay good
Speaker 2: And it's like on buses And there's this thing that
Speaker 2: happens in LA where there's always constant construction on everything,
Speaker 2: and so they board things up with these giant wooden
Speaker 2: walls and then they put billboards on those walls. So
Speaker 2: you're just seeing the same images from the Bear over
Speaker 2: and over again everywhere you look. I don't know who
Speaker 2: any of this is for. It's not the hottest take
Speaker 2: in the world to say that LA has too many
Speaker 2: industry billboards, but you forget about it when you're away
Speaker 2: for so long.
Speaker 3: And oh it's so jarring. Yeah, especially when award season
Speaker 3: rolls around and everything's like for your Consideration and it's
Speaker 3: like you're talking to like a half percent of the population. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And it's also this award.
Speaker 2: Season is like the for your consideration campaigns are always
Speaker 2: for shows that are not on currently. It's it's except
Speaker 2: you know, July will roll around and they'll be like
Speaker 2: remember White Lotus, Like, yeah, yeah, I do, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: I will say I feel a little so I used
Speaker 1: to drive from the West Side to our Hollywood student
Speaker 1: to record this show, and it and a big portion
Speaker 1: of my drive with Sunset, which is the most like
Speaker 1: just billboard ridden stretch of road that I think possibly
Speaker 1: in the Western world, Like there's so many billboards, but
Speaker 1: they put a ton of effort into like the billboards
Speaker 1: and the designs, and I feel like I was more
Speaker 1: up on like what was happening in pop culture, Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised when someone was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: have you seen like the this is the Last of Us?
Speaker 3: Or you know, like the mash up between.
Speaker 1: This is Us and the Last of Us. I would
Speaker 1: know about that like two months before it came out,
Speaker 1: you know. And now I just feel blindsided by popular cultures.
Speaker 1: So I'll say billboards in theory very dumb, but they
Speaker 1: were helpful to me because I'm so unplugged from a
Speaker 1: lot of popular that you.
Speaker 3: Just need a just need a big square sign to
Speaker 3: be like, hey, hey, they tell me what to think. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: I will say, if you're gonna do it, if you're
Speaker 1: going to just have a physical sign that you put
Speaker 1: in front of people's faces. The Jersey Shore where it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're living now that when they have those
Speaker 1: dragon behind planes, I feel like that's that's a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1: And like it's the plane like it's one of those
Speaker 1: old fashioned planes that looks like it's barely staying up there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, am I just remembering the nineteen twenties when
Speaker 1: I was a child?
Speaker 2: No, you're correct, it's still those old Wright Brothers planes
Speaker 2: carrying billboards for live music and five dollars beers and
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of smoke coming out. I do
Speaker 2: like my advertisements to have like a little slight taste
Speaker 2: of danger, like this couldn't go wrong exactly.
Speaker 3: Someone's taking their lives into their hands. Someone's flying an
Speaker 3: original Leonardo da Vinci ornathal to tell me that the.
Speaker 1: Beer is still four dollars in Sea Isle City?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesus, what is something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Ready, yes, working. I wouldn't be doing my job right
Speaker 2: now if I didn't take this and every opportunity to
Speaker 2: mention the ongoing writers strike. I'm a proud member of
Speaker 2: the Writer's Guild of America and we have been on
Speaker 2: strike since the beginning of May because we want a
Speaker 2: fair contract and the studios refuse to even sit down
Speaker 2: with us and discuss it, let alone give us what
Speaker 2: we're asking for. It's very frustrating. I a lot of
Speaker 2: people when this started in my life, we were like
Speaker 2: sympathetic to this cause and everything. They're like, you'll probably
Speaker 2: enjoy a little vacation. It's not a vacation. I really
Speaker 2: like working, uh And I writing specifically is the thing
Speaker 2: that I'm very good at it, and I just want
Speaker 2: to do it and the studios won't let me. And
Speaker 2: it's maddening.
Speaker 3: Who had that take that was, like, I think the strike.
Speaker 1: Fans of Zaslov on the show Dangel and his his
Speaker 1: take was that he was like, the strike's gonna end
Speaker 1: because of a love of working. People love to work,
Speaker 1: and we're just will welcome them back with open arms.
Speaker 1: So he's using the fact that you are a creative
Speaker 1: machine against you right now, which is so so devious
Speaker 1: and shitty.
Speaker 3: How much of it do you think? You know? I've
Speaker 3: seen that take of like how there's like a big
Speaker 3: there's that big obscure thing about like Netflix numbers or
Speaker 3: streaming numbers and how's that could affect things. Do you
Speaker 3: think that's playing a huge part or it's just general.
Speaker 3: Obviously there's the overarching theme of greed on behalf of
Speaker 3: the networks and streamers. But like you, I've seen that
Speaker 3: take going around Twitter. I was curious if you had
Speaker 3: any thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: I don't have any extra insight into this than anyone
Speaker 2: else who doesn't, you know, read Twitter and variety in
Speaker 2: Hollywood Reporter and all the other trades and everything. But
Speaker 2: that does make a whole lot of sense because that's
Speaker 2: something that the streamers won't even they don't seem to
Speaker 2: want to budget on the data data transparency. And it
Speaker 2: makes a whole lot of sense because that number could
Speaker 2: either be very very large and they don't want us
Speaker 2: to know that because then it would reveal just how
Speaker 2: much money we should be getting in residuals, or which
Speaker 2: seems slightly more likely, that money could be very the
Speaker 2: number could be very very low, which they don't want
Speaker 2: Wall Street and investors to know about. It's all anyone
Speaker 2: who has spent any time in tech or Silicon Valley
Speaker 2: startups like It all sounds very familiar to every single
Speaker 2: Silicon valley startup that eventually burst because they go big
Speaker 2: and they go fast, and they invest, invest, invest, and
Speaker 2: they talk about growth, growth, growth, and have very little transparency,
Speaker 2: and then when eventually they have to reveal their numbers,
Speaker 2: everything falls apart because they don't they inflated their own
Speaker 2: importance and impact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds familiar to also the ones that succeed,
Speaker 1: like Facebook. Facebook was that, and then like this year
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that like Facebook's having like an amazing year,
Speaker 1: like at the stock market, Like really, at the stock market,
Speaker 1: we're all the I'm going to together and just throw
Speaker 1: stocks back and forth. Yeah, like Facebook's stock is like
Speaker 1: doing well or there.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, how how are we still here?
Speaker 3: After meta?
Speaker 1: After the pivot to video bullshit?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah? And then the listener was saying that, like
Speaker 3: the Twitter video views, it's I think it's like two
Speaker 3: to three seconds is what triggers a view. Yeah, really,
Speaker 3: we're right back where we started where people are like,
Speaker 3: you got to see the fucking numbers we're doing here, folks,
Speaker 3: give us your ad dollars. Wait, what it's all, it's
Speaker 3: all an illusion.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're bad. And the Jack Smith merch
Speaker 1: is here. The liberals are really trying to like top
Speaker 1: conservatives when it comes to churning out cringey merchandise.
Speaker 3: I don't think they ever will.
Speaker 1: But the Robert Mueller craze was like, I still have
Speaker 1: my Robert Mueller action figures inbox dead stock and the
Speaker 1: price just is not budgeting.
Speaker 3: Man. Oh yeah, Jack, here, the pull the cord on
Speaker 3: the back of it. Let's hear some of the quotes.
Speaker 3: What Donald rum? He's fine? Okay? Why are there so
Speaker 3: many flies in here? I did this.
Speaker 1: This article made me like go and look at a
Speaker 1: video because I didn't want to be burned twice because
Speaker 1: I was burned by Mueller by like, you know, him
Speaker 1: never talking and everyone's like, oh, he's so like stoic
Speaker 1: and tough and.
Speaker 3: That's why he doesn't talk.
Speaker 1: And it turns out he doesn't talk because like when
Speaker 1: he did finally did, like a a like elderly muppet
Speaker 1: voice came out of his head.
Speaker 3: He was like, well, this guy's really done it this time.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck no no.
Speaker 1: And Jack Smith has a pretty normal voice. He just
Speaker 1: seems like a like first, he reminded me of Frank Vogel,
Speaker 1: the former Lakers coach.
Speaker 3: I mean, for people who haven't heard his voice, here
Speaker 3: is it just give you a little taste of what
Speaker 3: old Jack Smith sounds like. He just sounds like a dude.
Speaker 1: This indictment was voted by a grand jury of citizens
Speaker 1: in the Southern District of Florida.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, pretty standard. He's not pulling.
Speaker 1: He's not giving Mueller or like DeSantis or Jared Kushner,
Speaker 1: you know these people who we saw a lot, and
Speaker 1: then when you finally hear them, you're like, wait, that's
Speaker 1: the voice that comes out of that head. Like that
Speaker 1: is totally not what I was expecting. This guy seems
Speaker 1: like somebody that liberals will be able to credibly jerk
Speaker 1: off to after having heard him speak and like seen
Speaker 1: him in court.
Speaker 3: Hey man, he's been trying people at the Hague. Just
Speaker 3: not the US, just not the US, just not the US.
Speaker 2: Uh shut.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Definitely means theirs are like so they look like they
Speaker 1: were designed by the people who like design the mm
Speaker 1: A like tap out shirts like karma is Jack Smith. No,
Speaker 1: I mean the puns suck too, like at least Muller
Speaker 1: there was Muller time, Like that was kind of stupid enough.
Speaker 1: And that's like mister Smith goes to Washington unisex short
Speaker 1: sleeve T shirt. Yeah, okay, can we do have any
Speaker 1: other good puns for Jack?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't understand the impulse. I want to meet one
Speaker 2: person who sincerely and ironically wants a Jack Smith T
Speaker 2: shirt and like plans to hold on to it and
Speaker 2: wear it. It's just like, and this happens every election cycle.
Speaker 2: This happens all the time. There's always insane merchandise for
Speaker 2: whatever the hot new political figure is. And I just
Speaker 2: want to fast forward in time, like fifteen years for
Speaker 2: someone to be caught in a sleep shirt and they're like,
Speaker 2: who the fuck is Beto o' rourke. Why do you
Speaker 2: got a clearly photoshop shirt of him shirtless, like riding
Speaker 2: a horse? Like, oh yeah, I was really excited about
Speaker 2: this perpetual Democrat loser.
Speaker 3: Always Betto and oh Rourke, Wait, what's what's four seasons
Speaker 3: total landscaping? Now that one?
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, I want to meet those people too,
Speaker 1: because I'm fucking upside down on these karma is Jack
Speaker 1: Smith's shirts. I've got crates of them here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you, Jack, Helvetica like maybe would have
Speaker 3: been a better font than using I think was that
Speaker 3: curls empty is the font that you're using.
Speaker 1: Curls empty, Yeah, not a great one. I have to
Speaker 1: look up that font. You haven't seenanuel. You're you're a
Speaker 1: funk guy, right.
Speaker 2: That is one of the most insulting things you've ever
Speaker 2: said to me.
Speaker 3: I thought you don't know curls yeah, this one. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: curls yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like for little kid's birthdays that like where
Speaker 1: you're doing the decorations on a dot Matrix printer.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think it's so funny too, because
Speaker 3: like there's such a trend right now with just bad
Speaker 3: just like merch in general, not even to do with politics.
Speaker 3: Like everyone's doing the old like sort of what is
Speaker 3: cash money wreckers, like nineties Southern rap album kind of
Speaker 3: esthetic like on a T shirt or like old wrestler
Speaker 3: t shirts. Yeah, he couldn't even do a Jack Smith
Speaker 3: like that where he's like in a Rolls Royce you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, no limit style T shirt? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Jack Smith, these suck. The ones that they've released so far,
Speaker 3: this one features the slogan Somebody's gonna get jacked up, which,
Speaker 3: what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I mean I might buy just for myself like that.
Speaker 1: It's a cool slogan for me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just.
Speaker 1: Irrespective of political kind context, that's a cool thing for
Speaker 1: me to be saying.
Speaker 3: The only way to catch a jack off is to
Speaker 3: have jack on the case. I think, Yeah, I'm that
Speaker 3: one to tea public now, Yeah, I guess that's.
Speaker 1: Good now now that I think about it, Trump's a
Speaker 1: real jack off.
Speaker 3: Thanks. The real problem with this guy real jack off?
Speaker 3: Am I right? Foot?
Speaker 2: What is I get that?
Speaker 3: Like we that I get. I get that we have
Speaker 3: to that people in their minds, these fucking like Muller
Speaker 3: or Smith or you know, Alvium Bragg or whatever, they
Speaker 3: become like these savior figures. But like to the point
Speaker 3: of making just the most low energy merch. I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess that that's the point. Is like just like
Speaker 3: how there's grifters on the right. There's like some asshole's
Speaker 3: gonna buy this stupid shirt that I just mad designed
Speaker 3: in two seconds, and I can just make money off
Speaker 3: of that enthusiasm. When oh shit, when in the end,
Speaker 3: it's like let's just fucking get off this stuff like that.
Speaker 3: These people are gonna save us. It's the problems are
Speaker 3: so much bigger than what fucking Jack Smith can do.
Speaker 3: Miles just dropped his handgun.
Speaker 1: By the way, he likes to play with his handgun
Speaker 1: while it's not loaded.
Speaker 3: Okay, I learned my lesson, all right, Well, speaking of
Speaker 3: real jack offs, let's talk about this guy, Belgian TikToker.
Speaker 3: Do we have his name? I don't. It's it's not
Speaker 3: even worth saying his name. We won't even His name
Speaker 3: is David Barton, and if you really want to fucking
Speaker 3: waste your time, he's at Ragnar Lafu and there's underscores,
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to give you that information. So anyway,
Speaker 3: I think fans of Arrested Development, yes we bring this up,
Speaker 3: they will surely remember the patriarch's penchant for teaching lessons
Speaker 3: to his children. George Bluth in the most intense and
Speaker 3: fucked up ways where he would get his friend and
Speaker 3: former employee, J. Walter Weatherman, who was an amputee had
Speaker 3: he had one arm, be the shock value focal point
Speaker 3: to get his kids to do things like leave a
Speaker 3: note or stop yelling and things like this where they
Speaker 3: would get in these terrible accidents and freak the kids out,
Speaker 3: and then Jay Walter Weatherman would be like, and that
Speaker 3: that's why you always leave a note. Well, this guy
Speaker 3: is taking a page straight out of that book when
Speaker 3: he faked his own death, and he got his wife
Speaker 3: and daughters to all promise that they would all just
Speaker 3: pretend grieve the loss of their father and family member,
Speaker 3: so you know, daddy can do a TikTok, right, And
Speaker 3: once like words spread of his death quote unquote, people
Speaker 3: gathered like in Liaisse or whatever for this fucking funeral.
Speaker 3: When the service began, this guy fucking descends in a helicopter. Yes,
Speaker 3: to surprise the morning family and friends, and most people
Speaker 3: were fucking confused because they're like, wait, what the fuck
Speaker 3: And then they're like, oh, okay, this asshole really just
Speaker 3: faked his death. Some people were like relieved and in tears,
Speaker 3: but overall, I think it was just a surreal moment
Speaker 3: that was just totally unnecessary. And this is the best part.
Speaker 3: So when he talked about why he did it, it
Speaker 3: sounds pretty much like George Bluth. He says, what I quote,
Speaker 3: what I see in my family often hurts me. I
Speaker 3: never get invited to anything. Nobody sees me. We all
Speaker 3: grew apart. I felt unappreciated. That's why I wanted to
Speaker 3: give them a life lesson and show them that you
Speaker 3: shouldn't wait until someone is dead to meet up with them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then he glowes on to talk about like some
Speaker 3: of the people his like family members that reached out
Speaker 3: to him. He was like, yeah, proofs who really cares
Speaker 3: about me? And those who didn't come. You know, I
Speaker 3: guess I know what's going on, but I did like
Speaker 3: and those always said. And then also those who didn't come,
Speaker 3: they did contact me to meet up. So in a
Speaker 3: way I did win.
Speaker 2: I would say, your relatives not showing up to your
Speaker 2: funeral is not a win.
Speaker 1: I would not shown up to the funeral, finding out
Speaker 1: you did a like hoax to show them up, and
Speaker 1: then texting you and being like, hey, we should hang
Speaker 1: out sometimes.
Speaker 3: Got I didn't know he was this bad man. Sure.
Speaker 2: When I started reading this story, and you know, the
Speaker 2: headline very clearly spells it out that a man faked
Speaker 2: his death to teach a lesson, I was really I
Speaker 2: went into this thinking that's misguided, that's stupid. Also, assuming
Speaker 2: that the lesson was going to be like climate change
Speaker 2: or something important, some kind of statement about something important.
Speaker 2: The fact that the lesson is and that's why you
Speaker 2: should invite me to more parties. Family, That is the
Speaker 2: saddest possible reason to take your own death.
Speaker 1: True, why you should stop not inviting me to party?
Speaker 3: Right? You like actively shunned. You're just letting everybody know
Speaker 3: why no one invites you to shit because you're the
Speaker 3: guy who does you know all this wild shit just
Speaker 3: for TikTok use. Then you'll pretend you're dead and then
Speaker 3: be like, did I guilt you?
Speaker 2: Mom?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, good? Can I come to my niece's christening? Now?
Speaker 2: Is this not a crime?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't know. I think if
Speaker 1: he had fulled the filocal authorities, maybe, but yeah if
Speaker 1: he just like had them post on social that he
Speaker 1: was dead and then like invite to a fake funeral
Speaker 1: like probably not. Oh yeah, the daughter, this is what's
Speaker 1: really fucked up. Like in the post that was about
Speaker 1: his death, his daughter wrote this caption, rest in peace, Daddy.
Speaker 1: I will never stop thinking about you. Why is life
Speaker 1: so unfair? Why you you were going to be a
Speaker 1: grandfather and you still had your whole life ahead of you.
Speaker 1: I love you, we love you, we will never forget
Speaker 1: you now, I think obviously he wrote that, but like
Speaker 1: this is the level of deception you're going to just
Speaker 1: to get the people to gather and let out an
Speaker 1: exasperated sigh when it's like, Aha, yeah I didn't die, folks,
Speaker 1: I'm actually still alive.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. I think this like goes
Speaker 3: on just we've seen this like really bizarre need. Like
Speaker 3: the content creation era is just like affecting everything from
Speaker 3: like parents being like, oh you thought my top we
Speaker 3: thought my toddler really got a prison tattoo. No, I
Speaker 3: just pretended up until that point and then made you
Speaker 3: believe that. And it's this kind of like tangent right.
Speaker 3: Alexander Salmon in Slate was observing just the shit that
Speaker 3: has happening outside of the courthouse in Miami when at
Speaker 3: Trump's arraignment, and their observation was like so many people
Speaker 3: were just there to live stream or capture content, Like
Speaker 3: even the Maga people, they were all there to promote
Speaker 3: like a Twitch and Instagram, a TikTok account, whatever, so
Speaker 3: not so much that they were really pissed about what
Speaker 3: was going on with Trump, but like his arraignment was
Speaker 3: an opportunity for like their own personal like enrichment and
Speaker 3: brand building.
Speaker 1: I mean even January sixth, Like you know, I had
Speaker 1: my notes on how how they went about that thing,
Speaker 1: and they just seemed more focused on like live streaming
Speaker 1: the whole thing than any you know, strategic objectives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should be absolutely clear that I wooed at
Speaker 2: January sixth. I should add some context. That's it happens
Speaker 2: to be my birthday. Yeah, that is, it's now been
Speaker 2: co opted by this whole other situation. Oh man, but
Speaker 2: that's I just wanted to explain that wu very quickly.
Speaker 1: That's fine, you'll show them all though one day. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll know January sixth for the right reasons. What was
Speaker 1: that like on your birthday?
Speaker 3: When like did you start off being like being like this,
Speaker 3: some shit could go left today, or you're like I
Speaker 3: don't know and you just focus on my birthday, or
Speaker 3: because you were there right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My main thing was like I can't believe they let
Speaker 2: us just walk right in here, put my feet on
Speaker 2: everyone's desk. The day. It sounds like a lot of
Speaker 2: people I was like completely glued to my TV and
Speaker 2: absent mindedly fielding birthday texts from friends and family. The
Speaker 2: funny thing about January sixth now is every year on
Speaker 2: my birthday I get calls from relatives that start out
Speaker 2: with happy birthday and then inevitably turn into like, I
Speaker 2: still remember where I was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: I just I thought the country was falling apart. I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. What were we gonna do? I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: thanks Aunt Kathy, Yeah, great, dare for you.
Speaker 3: Wait, but do you remember where you were when I
Speaker 3: was born on January sixth? No, no, not at all,
Speaker 3: But my god, what a bleak day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My birth is the second most important January sixth
Speaker 2: in my family now, which is a huge, huge hit.
Speaker 2: But speaking of people turning everything into content, this reveals
Speaker 2: how old I am. And because I have old man
Speaker 2: concerns now. And I've talked about this before on my
Speaker 2: own podcast, Quick Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, one
Speaker 2: of my biggest fears and sources of anxiety that I
Speaker 2: live with every day is I don't want to be
Speaker 2: some kind of collateral damage in some young Tiktoker's prank.
Speaker 2: It's like a real concern. Anytime I'm in a target,
Speaker 2: We're just out in the wild and I see a
Speaker 2: youth with a phone. I'm like, he's gonna fucking kick
Speaker 2: me in the balls, and if I get mad, he's
Speaker 2: gonna say it's a prank, and then I'm gonna get madder,
Speaker 2: and then that's gonna be the thing that gets views too.
Speaker 2: It's like it's just one of those things that's hanging
Speaker 2: over my head, Like I know, any minute now, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be on some sixteen year olds prank show and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be made to look very foolish by some
Speaker 2: team millionaire.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think I've talked about this, but
Speaker 1: I I think I was collateral damage and uh like
Speaker 1: plank thing. I was in a target and these teens
Speaker 1: kept turning like putting on the bluetooth speakers like they
Speaker 1: were somehow hijacking like the speaker, like all all the
Speaker 1: speakers in the audio visual like section of the department
Speaker 1: of the target to like play like really filthy like
Speaker 1: rap songs, and like I was with my kids, so
Speaker 1: you like my instinct was to like literally like shake
Speaker 1: my fist at them. And cover my kid's ears, just
Speaker 1: be the exact person they So I haven't gone and
Speaker 1: searched for it because I don't know how I would
Speaker 1: do that. But uh yeah, if anybody sees a prank
Speaker 1: video of me, you meant to do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly what's the worst like prank, like Daniel
Speaker 3: that you are envisioning? Like, because I know the fact
Speaker 3: that you've thought about it this far, I know that
Speaker 3: there's probably levels of the kinds of pranks you want
Speaker 3: to be in, but there's probably one that you saw
Speaker 3: on TikTok, and like, that's the fucking kind I absolutely
Speaker 3: never want to fucking be in.
Speaker 2: There's the kind where they'll be in a mall and
Speaker 2: they will steal someone's purse or their bag and run away,
Speaker 2: and then if you catch them, they say it's just
Speaker 2: a prank. Roach is a prank, and they point to
Speaker 2: all the cameras around right right. Sometimes it's it feels
Speaker 2: good because the pranker will get like kicked in the
Speaker 2: face by some person who's helping out, But very often
Speaker 2: the person who gets mad because their purse was stolen
Speaker 2: is made to look like some some dork skull loser. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I fear that. I fear, like every time I'm
Speaker 2: out walking with my girlfriend that someone's gonna take her
Speaker 2: purse or do something to mess with her, and I will,
Speaker 2: in a misguided attempt to defend her, humiliate both of
Speaker 2: us in the process, right.
Speaker 3: Or like you're like, no, Daniel, don't fall for it,
Speaker 3: and you let him take off.
Speaker 2: Rightw What the fuck he's just stolen purse.
Speaker 3: It could be a fucking prank. I'm not getting us
Speaker 3: involved in that ship. That's just so yeah, this time
Speaker 3: Twitter say that phrase so much. All right, let's take
Speaker 3: another break and we'll come back and talk about the
Speaker 3: eagerly anticipated Netflix restaurant. And we're back, and you know,
Speaker 3: with it, with these writers going on strike, Netflix gotta
Speaker 3: make some money somehow, won't Won't people please think of
Speaker 3: of the Netflix executives of the world.
Speaker 1: So they're finally doing what everyone's been asking them for
Speaker 1: paying their writers affair. No, actually, wait, they're they're opening
Speaker 1: a restaurant called Netflix.
Speaker 3: Bites isn't going to fire bomb this place, brick and
Speaker 3: mortar restaurant in Los Angeles. Presumably you will need to
Speaker 3: use a password to enter that you can't remember and
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to tell your family members without getting
Speaker 3: in trouble. But it will feature food from Netflix shows
Speaker 3: and not like sloppy steaks or like that's the only
Speaker 3: thing I'd go for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was likega, like brother, they got sloppy steaks.
Speaker 1: They're they're doing it all with like unscripted food shows
Speaker 1: like Chef's Table, Iron Chef quest Ah, sorry, Iron Chef
Speaker 1: quest for an Iron Legend. Oh yes, you may know that.
Speaker 1: I may notice I am not familiar with any of these.
Speaker 1: They're also having food from Nailed It, which is a
Speaker 1: fun show where people are bad at cooking. Is kind
Speaker 1: of the point of.
Speaker 3: That one, so you can eat like a malformed Elmo cake? Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: this this looks like this looks like maybe one of
Speaker 3: their worst ideas ever. Yeah, but I'd love to see that.
Speaker 3: In the midst of it all, they're like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: We're gonna have shitty cakes that you can't even describe
Speaker 3: and old like Dale old barbecue.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, I kind of understand. I don't even
Speaker 2: think I understand the impulse of you've seen this food
Speaker 2: on Iron Chef, have you ever wanted to eat it?
Speaker 2: At a restaurant and I don't. I don't watch a
Speaker 2: lot of cooking shows, but I've never the point is
Speaker 2: watching them do it and and and getting caught up
Speaker 2: in like the excitement of the competition of it. It's
Speaker 2: not like it doesn't make me hungry. I like it
Speaker 2: for the reality TV.
Speaker 3: Aspects of it. I think, right, it's and like unless
Speaker 3: you're like being like, hey, the whole thing is a
Speaker 3: show that you're in there and you see it all,
Speaker 3: it's like then you're just going to a restaurant and
Speaker 3: someone brings you food and like, and that's from Iron Chef, right,
Speaker 3: And yeah.
Speaker 2: That's the other part of it, because it's from what
Speaker 2: I gather. These these shows make all kinds of food
Speaker 2: all the time, and I'm never when I go out
Speaker 2: to eat, it's like I think I want sushi tonight,
Speaker 2: or let's do American or let's do Mexican. It's never like,
Speaker 2: let's do whatever the Netflix algorithm has programmed into their menu.
Speaker 3: This was shit.
Speaker 1: This dish was created by somebody who was just eliminated
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. Actually, so yeah, I think what is
Speaker 1: the most iconic thing from film or TV to eat
Speaker 1: in general? Like that you felt because I remember it.
Speaker 1: Like there's that YouTube channel like Binging with Babbish where
Speaker 1: like that guy just like makes stuff from like film
Speaker 1: and TV like, but the real life version, I feel
Speaker 1: like all Italian restaurants are kind of based on like
Speaker 1: Goodfellas and like Suppran, you know, like some of the
Speaker 1: Italian food, Like there's something where that those like kind
Speaker 1: of tie back into each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, there's in the first Home Alone, when
Speaker 2: well Kevin is waiting for all this traps are set
Speaker 2: and he's just waiting for the Wet Bandits to to
Speaker 2: show up. He makes himself macaroni and cheese in the
Speaker 2: microwave and sits down and he's about to eat it,
Speaker 2: and then the criminals show up, so he never gets
Speaker 2: to have one bite. It's the best looking macaroni and
Speaker 2: cheese I've ever seen in my fucking life, and I
Speaker 2: want it every time. If there was a restaurant Netflix,
Speaker 2: if you sold that macaroni and cheese from Home Alone
Speaker 2: strikes Over, you get whatever you want.
Speaker 3: If you gave me that dessert spread in Jurassic Park,
Speaker 3: you kids are eating and she's got that jello and
Speaker 3: his hands all burnt up. Oh man, that dessert spread.
Speaker 3: I'm ast, like, what the fuck do I gotta do
Speaker 3: to get in there right now? Yeah? Those are That's
Speaker 3: where I'm at. What about you, Jack, I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: Yeah the.
Speaker 1: Thought I thought I already answered this with the Italian restaurant.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, that's your answer, meat balls. You can also
Speaker 1: see like the marketing meeting like that came up with us,
Speaker 1: where they're like Netflix is like a food brand. People
Speaker 1: watch Chef's Table on Eric because Chef's Table is basically
Speaker 1: like food porn at this point, like it or at
Speaker 1: any point like it. It is just watching chefs make
Speaker 1: delicious looking food.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can completely see the marketing meeting where they came
Speaker 1: up with this pitch, and I it's a very depressing
Speaker 1: feeling to be able to see that.
Speaker 3: I think there's also like there's a very cynical edge
Speaker 3: to it, because we talk about how with the writers strike,
Speaker 3: they're all they're going to go all in on unscripted,
Speaker 3: like that's just what the plan is, so like to
Speaker 3: do something that elevates and brings more attention to their
Speaker 3: non scripted products. I think it's also a thing to
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, and this is what's cool man. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all reality based, not that shit that's written by
Speaker 3: creative people. What if you got to see this shitty cake.
Speaker 2: It's also a really interesting move for Netflix to do
Speaker 2: right now, where they're basically just saying, hey, writers, are
Speaker 2: you sick of protesting in the same studios. Well, here's
Speaker 2: a new location you could protest that. Here's a brand
Speaker 2: new spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah you can be Yeah, you're scabbing by going in
Speaker 3: in their asshole. All right.
Speaker 1: And finally, this next story is not really a story.
Speaker 1: It's just a thing like what I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you guys, what your plans were for this, like whether
Speaker 1: you were going it sounds like Daniel, you're gonna be involved,
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a comedy fantasy camp with Jay
Speaker 1: Leno and Adam Carolla. The ad for it looks like
Speaker 1: it's it was designed in nineteen ninety eight. Adam Carolla,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to describe what he's doing in
Speaker 1: this picture. He looks like he just caught somebody, Like
Speaker 1: he's scolding. I think he's scolding.
Speaker 3: You for being woke. Yeah, that's probably true, because he's
Speaker 3: doing like a finger wag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's asking you triggered much, That's what.
Speaker 3: He's He's like, you've got pronouns. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah? Sorry?
Speaker 3: Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So comedy fans, aspiring stand up comedians and television writers
Speaker 1: take note. Adam Carolla and Jay Leno have partnered with
Speaker 1: the producers of Rock and Roll Fantasy Camps to launched
Speaker 1: the first ever comedy Fantasy Camp, a four day event
Speaker 1: which offers participants the opportunity to work with some of
Speaker 1: the most successful talent in the comedy industry.
Speaker 3: I mean they're headlining it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that. One of the guest speakers
Speaker 2: is a writer from the show Friends, and like, no
Speaker 2: disrespect to any sitcom writer in the nineties, but teaching
Speaker 2: a class today, well, the secrets of success is you know, right, friends,
Speaker 2: write a show back in the time when writers were
Speaker 2: getting paid ninety million dollars to make.
Speaker 3: That easy, folks, it's that easy. Just get on a
Speaker 3: good gifts, getting a good writer, zoom to a couple
Speaker 3: of seasons, and then you can own a house. You can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's my what's my path to success? I wrote
Speaker 2: one episode of Spin City nineteen years ago and now
Speaker 2: I'm a millionaire.
Speaker 3: Yeah have you? Who is Alonzo Bowden? That's another Alonzo
Speaker 3: Boden is like he's one of the panelists on that show.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, don't tell me. And he's a stand up comedian. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine.
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, at the camp you're gonna receive the following.
Speaker 3: You will get to do it. You'll develop your own
Speaker 3: stand up routines and perform them on a real comedy stage.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 3: Depressing.
Speaker 1: Also, it's happening in Hollywood, which like that's where our
Speaker 1: studio is, and it is just always full of tourists
Speaker 1: looking like bewildered by the fact that Hollywood is like
Speaker 1: just the worst part of Los Angeles. Like it's just
Speaker 1: everything is caked in dirt.
Speaker 3: It's a mess.
Speaker 2: Reading that part about how over this this week long
Speaker 2: or four day process whatever, you're going to develop your
Speaker 2: own standard routine. That is the loudest like grift signal
Speaker 2: I've ever heard in our entire life. It's so clearly
Speaker 2: like no one if the if the comics were trying
Speaker 2: to teach you how to be a stand up in
Speaker 2: good faith, they would first and foremost say you you
Speaker 2: starting out cannot write a competent stand up routine in
Speaker 2: four days. It's an assignment for class. That's not where
Speaker 2: it comes from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, but there's like, I feel like there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some good, you know, gritty talent coming through
Speaker 1: this camp because it only costs three thousand up to
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars if you pick the VIP mentorship package.
Speaker 1: The VIP, Yeah, this is going to be a bunch
Speaker 1: of very wealthy people getting together to right stand Like
Speaker 1: I kind of almost feel like we need to send
Speaker 1: somebody to this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel Jack, I think we I I can't
Speaker 3: do it. I don't think my mental health is like
Speaker 3: stronger to this. I think I would do it and
Speaker 3: just do some really wild shit up there, like get
Speaker 3: naked and just see it, like just fuck with everybody
Speaker 3: there and just see what the fuck happens. But like,
Speaker 3: but to your point, like Daniel, like it really is
Speaker 3: doing the thing where they're waiving this like it's a grift,
Speaker 3: because the whole thing is basically you're gonna get a
Speaker 3: video of yourself on stage at the MPT by the
Speaker 3: end of it, and I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: are gonna be like I need that for my fucking
Speaker 3: reel just to be up there saying my weird shitty jokes,
Speaker 3: learning how to write, you know, alienating comedy. It's all
Speaker 3: going to be wonderful.
Speaker 2: And it's based on the popular, long running like rock
Speaker 2: and roll fantasy camp where you do the similar thing
Speaker 2: where you go and you learn from like other famous musicians,
Speaker 2: and you maybe play somewhere on stage at the end
Speaker 2: of it. And if any of your listeners are thinking
Speaker 2: of going to comedy fantasy camp and spending the three
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to do it, just before you do that
Speaker 2: to become a successful comedian, ask yourself if any rock
Speaker 2: star you know said that they got their start in
Speaker 2: the rock fantasy camp. If there is one successful story
Speaker 2: from there, then sure, go for it. But I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure the answers no, man, oh Jack.
Speaker 1: That's where Freddie Mercury came out of it. We just
Speaker 1: know that part out of part of Bohemian Rhapsody.
Speaker 3: Do we just go to the like the performance, like
Speaker 3: to grad suation show, because I think that's really what
Speaker 3: you want to see, is the culmination of this three
Speaker 3: thousand to five thousand dollars grift to hear them just
Speaker 3: tell a bunch of like Rinston reused shit jokes.
Speaker 1: There's a before and after I just went to my
Speaker 1: son's last day of kindergarten and on the wall they
Speaker 1: had first day of kindergarten pictures and last day of
Speaker 1: kindergarten pictures and it was a really cute.
Speaker 3: Great idea.
Speaker 1: He looked hella grizzled compared to you to how he
Speaker 1: did at the beginning of the year. But like, I
Speaker 1: feel like in the four days of this comedy fantasy camp,
Speaker 1: like if we did like before and after pictures, like
Speaker 1: they would just like so just the light will have
Speaker 1: left their eyes, like on the way out and yeah,
Speaker 1: just be like but yeah, exit interviews would be fucking amazing.
Speaker 3: There's something called the groupie package. Oh no, no, and
Speaker 3: that just that's an add on, which basically means you
Speaker 3: can bring your spouse or significant other access to all
Speaker 3: the meet and greets and headliner jams and get take
Speaker 3: a picture with Jay Leno and Adam, get much a
Speaker 3: joy for them, but you cannot go to any of
Speaker 3: the comedy workshops. Those are those are lockdown just for
Speaker 3: the paying dufass.
Speaker 1: Highly proprietary private information that not everybody has access to.
Speaker 3: That you're gonna learn here. There's a podcasting workshop, a
Speaker 3: voice acting workshop, improv workshop. Oh my god. Oh man.
Speaker 1: I mean sure, I don't begrudge anyone forgetting the paycheck,
Speaker 1: except for like fucking Adam Crowl and Jay Leno. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just picturing the like UCB, you know, talent,
Speaker 1: like talented improvisers who are like collecting a paycheck for
Speaker 1: doing this and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, good for you. Awesome.
Speaker 1: I also I love the like writers that they have.
Speaker 1: They have like this guy from Friends, Liz Astro from
Speaker 1: King of Queens, Kevin Hench, just Tim Allen. Yeah is
Speaker 1: that a show or he's just he's just generally a
Speaker 1: Tim Allen guy. Good for him, just hanging with Tim
Speaker 1: Man with's this big thing. Yeah, the paychecks must be
Speaker 1: fucking huge if they have like a friends, right, If
Speaker 1: it's worth it for a friends writer to do this,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean it makes sense right because the first the
Speaker 3: first thing was just grifting on people who had this
Speaker 3: like repressed wanna be rock star shit from the seventies
Speaker 3: and eighties. They could never get out, so they're like, man,
Speaker 3: I can like Hammy say Sammy, Hammy Segar who is
Speaker 3: an off brand impersonator, but like Sammy Hagar, like I'll
Speaker 3: jam with him with my like terrible guitar playing. And
Speaker 3: I think with this one, now we're in the era
Speaker 3: of like wanna be comedians and hot take artists that
Speaker 3: this is almost seems like the perfect grift for this
Speaker 3: era of lonely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is irresponsible. Like I'm sure the rock star
Speaker 1: people get up there and immediately like realize like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this this kind of sounds like shit, you know, like
Speaker 1: when they're up there or along with like really talented musicians.
Speaker 3: But this is just going to.
Speaker 1: Create like middle aged millionaires who think they're actually could
Speaker 1: be stand ups. Yeah, if they had chosen that path.
Speaker 2: Are you guys worried at all that this is going
Speaker 2: to steal some clientele away from your upcoming podcasting fantasy camp?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 3: Is that anounce? Well, I'm glad you bring that up,
Speaker 3: because yeah, we are having our Zeitgang fantasy camp. No,
Speaker 3: I mean I am a little worried. I'm not. I
Speaker 3: will show my hand here. I am a little worried
Speaker 3: that it's going to eat into our podcast. Is the
Speaker 3: Sour Grapes? No, it's not. It's absolutely not. I just can't.
Speaker 3: But again, you know, kudos to the people who found
Speaker 3: that like market and are like, this is where we're getting.
Speaker 3: You can for five hundred dollars, you can have a
Speaker 3: photographer like like follow you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Disney World in photo. It's like, just yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why we no relation to any other market in
Speaker 1: the world. Five I get pictures.
Speaker 2: I don't feel too terrible about it because it's such
Speaker 2: a loud drift and it's I don't want to completely
Speaker 2: call it a victimless crime, but if it's someone who's
Speaker 2: going to spend four thousand dollars for Jay Leno and
Speaker 2: Adam Corrolla's comedy, yeah, it's like, yeah, you're I'm okay
Speaker 2: if you lose that four thousand dollars. You seem okay
Speaker 2: to lose that four thousand dollars. Yeah, you have that
Speaker 2: with you know, no one is like having a fundraiser
Speaker 2: in their small town so they can get sent from Dixon,
Speaker 2: Illinois by their friends and family to Hollywood to learn
Speaker 2: to make.
Speaker 3: It okay, But what's the percentage? That's why, like, God,
Speaker 3: I don't want to go, but I would love to
Speaker 3: infiltrate and just talk to other people, and like, how
Speaker 3: many are like retired people, like retired men who are
Speaker 3: just VISs men. Yeah, they always told me I was funny, man,
Speaker 3: I've always been saying stuff and I hate woke stuff,
Speaker 3: and I just want to learn from the best. And
Speaker 3: how many really are kind of misguided? What would the
Speaker 3: two of you as people who have you know, launched
Speaker 3: careers in common, helped others do so and are successful?
Speaker 3: What actual what would you tell somebody if they said,
Speaker 3: I think this is the way for me, man, right,
Speaker 3: I mean right?
Speaker 1: Or if they I would tell them honestly, like I
Speaker 1: would be like, yeah, it sounds like it, it sounds good.
Speaker 3: That's fucking leno. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're practically giving that shit away. That's great, Yeah, yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3: Just be like everybody else, you know, start from the bottom,
Speaker 3: you know, or the five grand to be truly.
Speaker 1: If you want to start from this would be the
Speaker 1: lowest bottom that you could start from. Like if there
Speaker 1: is somebody who comes out of this camp to be
Speaker 1: a successful comedian, like truly, nobody else will ever be
Speaker 1: able to say that they started from the bottom compared
Speaker 1: to that person.
Speaker 2: That's right, I think I would tell that person this
Speaker 2: seems like a great networking opportunity. You could take one
Speaker 2: picture with Jay Leno and then meet a bunch of
Speaker 2: other people who also aren't successful in this industry. People
Speaker 2: like that. This would be a great opportunity to meet
Speaker 2: un fun, inexperienced people.
Speaker 3: Get a crew, you get and get your crew. Who
Speaker 3: are your guys?
Speaker 1: You know that's the question. That's the first question you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to answer when Mark Maren inevitably interviews you.
Speaker 1: Who are your guys? And this is a good chance
Speaker 1: to meet your guys?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my Matt Rushmore has got to be Corolla Leno,
Speaker 2: the guy who wrote Tim Allen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we're waiting for that fourth face and
Speaker 1: it could be you. Oh my god, Daniel O'Brien, Such
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you all the good stuff?
Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at dal b Underscore
Speaker 2: I NC. The show I worked for is last week tonight,
Speaker 2: but you can't watch it right now, So go and
Speaker 2: yell at the sas Man and all the other studios
Speaker 2: if you want that show back. I would get in
Speaker 2: trouble if I didn't promote the podcast that I do
Speaker 2: Quick Question with Soren and Daniel Soren. If you know
Speaker 2: me from Cracked, you know Soren from Cracked. We've been
Speaker 2: doing this podcast for a while while it's uh sucks,
Speaker 2: but you should listen to it anyway, and we uh,
Speaker 2: I guess I can announce this here. We're making a
Speaker 2: dramatic return. We're pivoting to video. Sore and I we've
Speaker 2: we've started filming the podcast, the two of us in
Speaker 2: a room together, laughing and having fun with each other,
Speaker 2: and that'll be out on YouTube sometime in the future.
Speaker 3: Amazing. I got started doing that. I was saying that
Speaker 3: to you. I was saying that too.
Speaker 2: The fuck off my shit.
Speaker 3: Well, no, to be fair, I was just.
Speaker 1: Telling a person about the podcast and they were mystified
Speaker 1: by podcasts podcasting as a concept, and we're like, you're
Speaker 1: not on YouTube, Like that's the I've seen podcasts on
Speaker 1: YouTube or.
Speaker 3: Right, They're like they're talk shows on YouTube, right, Like,
Speaker 3: I guess that is how most people ingest them now.
Speaker 3: But to be fair, Daniel, I I actually got the
Speaker 3: idea because that is one of the slugs of the
Speaker 3: things you'll learn at the Fantasy Comedy Camp. Right about
Speaker 3: getting into comedy and digital media. With the rise of
Speaker 3: platforms like tiktoking YouTube, comedy is taking a new so
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, oh shit, we should take it
Speaker 3: off from that. But yeah, I guess, I guess I
Speaker 3: saw that idea from you, Jo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Is there a work of media that you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying, Dangle.
Speaker 2: There's three real quick ones. I saw Spider Verse for
Speaker 2: the second time in theater yesterday and that movie rules
Speaker 2: so much. I'm obsessed with it. Friend of the Pod
Speaker 2: Jamie Lofts's book Raw Dog incredible. I finished that a
Speaker 2: few days ago and I just love that book. And
Speaker 2: everyone who listens to this show knows how funny she is.
Speaker 2: So get that book if you didn't already New York
Speaker 2: Times bestseller.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My favorite tweet and it lives within a family of
Speaker 2: tweets is I don't know if you guys talked about
Speaker 2: this on your basketball show or not. Did you see
Speaker 2: Joker getting interviewed at a press conference and they asked
Speaker 2: him if he is excited about the parade coming up.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing that the interviewers are like, you
Speaker 2: were saying that you were surprised that you didn't feel
Speaker 2: much of anything, but you feel more now? And are
Speaker 2: you excited about this parade? And Joker looks off camera
Speaker 2: and says when he is paid? When he's paid, I
Speaker 2: say say Thursday, and he goes no, and like his
Speaker 2: face drops, I have to go home.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Yeah, I was hoping. The only thing I
Speaker 1: said is that I was hoping he would ride down
Speaker 1: the middle of like in the parade on one of
Speaker 1: his little horse drunk care horses. Yeah, which are I
Speaker 1: I realized that I was assuming they were little horses,
Speaker 1: but it's they are normal sized horses.
Speaker 3: He's just giant. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He is someone that that I obviously don't get a
Speaker 2: ton of Denver games in Jersey, so I didn't get
Speaker 2: to watch him play too much. Reading about him all
Speaker 2: year long, I was very upset that he might get
Speaker 2: his third m v P and I didn't want that.
Speaker 2: There was just something in me that didn't want that
Speaker 2: to happen. And once he didn't get it, I was
Speaker 2: rooting for him. Now.
Speaker 3: I like him.
Speaker 2: I like this big, goofy guy who seems to hate basketball.
Speaker 3: Relationship. I think it's like he's just financing his love
Speaker 3: of horses throughout basketball, because, like I feel like that.
Speaker 3: Groan was like, I gotta go back to Serbia to
Speaker 3: my horses.
Speaker 1: Man, the most big, grudging energy that any superstar has
Speaker 1: ever had. Yeah, I was like on our basketball podcast,
Speaker 1: was like workshopping this idea of like, you know, Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, they like have this like personality that it
Speaker 1: feels like you like need to be a superstar, like
Speaker 1: just this you know, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. And then like he just he like
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be there at all the whole time,
Speaker 1: and somehow it just works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's really like who is back in Serbia holding
Speaker 2: a gun to your horse's head? Who's making you do this?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? Yea? The best?
Speaker 1: All right, Miles, where can people find you? What's working?
Speaker 3: Maybe you've been enjoying at Miles of Gray, where you
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Speaker 3: HBO is now a horse Amazing.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't think I have anything.
Speaker 3: I've been enjoying it.
Speaker 1: So lives, past lives I enjoyed.
Speaker 3: I think I talked about it. Oh yeah, that's a
Speaker 3: good movie. Go check that out.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to see Spider Man with my kids
Speaker 1: this weekend for the.
Speaker 3: First time, for the first time.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so funny by that, I mean Spider Man
Speaker 1: on Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 3: W What were you guys talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wait wait, Daniel, who's your what was your favorite plake? What?
Speaker 3: What was your favorite thing? Well, who's your favorite spider
Speaker 3: person from the I.
Speaker 2: Mean I'm gonna join almost everyone and say Spider Punk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel, Mollia fild Uh.
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