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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: A twelve year old little girl takes the family car

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Speaker 2: and heads off with a little friend to meet someone

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Speaker 2: from online in Louisiana. How did this happen? I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 2: here at Fox Nation in SiriusXM one eleven. First of all,

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Speaker 2: take a listen to our friends at crime Online.

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Speaker 3: A missing runaway children alert out of Lake Butler, Florida.

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Speaker 3: Jake Gregory is twelve years old. Her best friend, Chloe Larson,

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Speaker 3: is fourteen and is known to wear glasses. The children

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Speaker 3: last seen in the area of Northeast County Road two

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Speaker 3: thirty seven in Lake Butler, Florida, and it appears they

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Speaker 3: are traveling in a twenty sixteen black Ford tours belonging

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Speaker 3: to Jade Gregory's father. Early investigation shows the girls are

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Speaker 3: possibly headed east on Iten between Florida and Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: There is no adult traveling with the girls and no

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Speaker 3: found play is suspected. You know when you have a

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Speaker 3: child alone in a car the way you heard it

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Speaker 3: phrase just then, no foul play suspected? How can anyone

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Speaker 3: be calm when a twelve year old is trying to

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Speaker 3: drive a car. A twelve year old little girl trying

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Speaker 3: to drive a car from Florida all the way to Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: With me an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 3: what we know right now. But first I want to

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Speaker 3: go to a special guest joining us, Captain Lynn Williams,

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Speaker 3: Chief Deputy Union County Sheriff's Office in Florida.

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Speaker 4: Captain Williams, thank you for taking time to be with us.

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Speaker 2: Could you just describe what that drive would be between

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Speaker 2: where they took off and Louisiana.

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Speaker 5: Well, when we go the call from the parents, it

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Speaker 5: obviously scared the parents. Scared us to death too. To

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Speaker 5: think about a twelve year old on the Interstate on

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Speaker 5: I ten headed west through multiple states.

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Speaker 6: It scared us.

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Speaker 5: The parent's original fault was that we were going to

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Speaker 5: call them to say that they've been in a tragic accident.

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Speaker 5: So we obviously took this very serious. We were under

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Speaker 5: the impression the twelve year old was the one that

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Speaker 5: was driving. You know, Interstate's a very serious highway going

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Speaker 5: you know, approximately eight nine hours.

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Speaker 4: Oh, dear Lord in heaven.

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Speaker 2: You know, the other day, Captain Williams, my children, John

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Speaker 2: David and Lucy have just gotten old enough to get

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Speaker 2: a learner's license, which I can't believe this.

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Speaker 4: Is even happening.

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Speaker 2: But I took my daughter out on I guess it

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Speaker 2: was a one, two, three, five lane, two lanes going

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Speaker 2: our way, a turn lane in the middle, and two

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Speaker 2: lanes coming against us. I didn't scream, but I nearly

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Speaker 2: had a heart attack when she had to change lanes.

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Speaker 2: She's never changed the lines before. Let me just say,

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Speaker 2: I think we need to practice some more. But she's fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and she's a very calm, calm and responsible person. I

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Speaker 2: cannot even imagine at age twelve. Guys, take a listen

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Speaker 2: to more from our Forensic Crime online.

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Speaker 3: A massive searches underway for Jade Gregory and Chloe Larson.

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Speaker 3: Investigators say twelve year old Jade took her dad's in

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen Ford Taurus and drove to fourteen year old

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Speaker 3: Chloe Larson's house. They were last seen in the area

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Speaker 3: of Main Street in County Road two thirty seven in

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Speaker 3: Lake Butler, Florida. But early investigation has led law enforcement

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Speaker 3: to believe the girls have been communicating with someone they

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Speaker 3: believe to be a teenage boy in the Baton Rouge,

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Speaker 3: Louisiana area. The girls are possibly traveling on Iten West.

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Speaker 3: Pictures of both girls are posted online through social media,

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Speaker 3: on TV and electronic billboard. The girls are traveling without

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Speaker 3: adult supervision. Foul play is not suspected, but being twelve

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Speaker 2: Has anybody heard about the murders off the Delphi Bridge?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what does everybody have?

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Speaker 2: Their head in the sand and their tail and the

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Speaker 2: air like an ostrich. Those two little girls, Liberty and Abby,

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Speaker 2: thought they were talking to a teen boy, a Justin

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Speaker 2: Bieber look alike. Well, as it turns out, they were

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Speaker 2: talking to a guy down in the basement, a grown man,

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Speaker 2: texting them and trying to get them to send them nunes.

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Speaker 2: That's who they were talking to, a grown man, and

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Speaker 2: they weren't special. He was casting all the little girls

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Speaker 2: with them, posing as a teen joining me right now.

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Speaker 2: In addition to Captain Lynn Williams, chief Deputy Union County

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Speaker 2: Sheriff's Office is Shauna Burns. You may remember the name

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Speaker 2: Haley Burns. This is her mom, her daughter lured by

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Speaker 2: an online predator.

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Speaker 4: As a young teen.

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Speaker 2: Shauna tell us how Haley was lured online.

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Speaker 7: She met him in a chatroom for people that wanted

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Speaker 7: to be inorexic. It was an anorexia chatroom, and he

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Speaker 7: tended to stay in that chatroom because he found a

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Speaker 7: and within twenty eight days of meeting him, he had

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Speaker 2: And isn't it true, Haley, your little girl was held

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Speaker 2: captive by this online predator for thirteen.

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Speaker 7: Months, three hundred ninety nine days.

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Speaker 4: And during that time, what did she endure? Horrific torture.

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Speaker 7: She was starved, She was assaulted in ways that I

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Speaker 7: cannot explain that I'm not allowed to explain. Graphic horrible

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Speaker 7: abuse is what she endured every.

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Speaker 2: Single day, lot in a dog cage, yep, and starved

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Speaker 7: When she came back, she weighed eighty six pounds. We

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Speaker 7: had to go to a special therapist to introduce foods

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Speaker 7: slowly because she had not had any meat or vegetables

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Speaker 7: or dairy for the entire time that he kept her.

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Speaker 7: So you can't just not eat dairy and meat for

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Speaker 7: those amount of times and then introduce it back. You

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Speaker 7: have to do it very slowly. And it was like

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Speaker 7: so hard for her to go through that because it

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Speaker 7: was just like re going through it again and again

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Speaker 7: and again. Every time we had to go to learn

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Speaker 7: how to re eat meat. It was just it was

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Speaker 7: like so difficult, Like you wouldn't even think that that

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Speaker 7: would be a thing, but it was so hard for

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Speaker 7: her to even learn how to re eat vegetables again.

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Speaker 2: Shawna, I know a lot of people have expressed so

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Speaker 2: much sympathy and empathy for your daughter, Haley, but just

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Speaker 2: hearing you talk, I'm just so sorry what you have

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Speaker 2: gone through. Because last week, my son John David got

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Speaker 2: hit in the head with a discus at track practice.

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Speaker 2: It's a long story. My point is it knocked him out.

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Speaker 2: We were in the er half the night. He has

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Speaker 2: a level three concussion. He wanted to go back to school,

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Speaker 2: and when he got in the car, the sun was

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Speaker 2: so bright it immediately triggered a horrible, splitting headache. And

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Speaker 2: there he was, all dressed for school. We had to

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Speaker 2: just like I want to vomit. Worried about him and

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Speaker 2: your girl was gone. You said three hundred how many days?

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Speaker 7: Three hundred and ninety nine days, And I'm going to

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Speaker 7: be honest with you, it was torture. You we have twins.

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Speaker 7: We also, we have seven year old twin girls, and

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Speaker 7: I thank God that I have them because I had

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Speaker 7: do those things. But I was a zombie doing them

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Speaker 7: because I was so lost. Both it was so hard

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Speaker 7: That entire length of time that she was missing was

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Speaker 7: torture every single day. And my husband cried so much

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Speaker 7: that he wore contacts and the saline from his tears

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Speaker 7: burnt holes in his eyes, and he had get lasick

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Speaker 7: because he cried so much. And it was just this

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Speaker 7: like buffocating fear that there's nothing you can do. There's

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Speaker 7: nothing there's in the FBI and the police, and everyone

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Speaker 7: does their best to assure you that they're doing their best.

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Speaker 7: But ninety nine days is a really long time. And

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Speaker 7: did not lose faith in that time. It's very difficult,

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Speaker 7: but we did not. We maintained our faith the entire time,

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Speaker 7: and because of that, we believe that our daughter, which

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Speaker 7: was returned to us as a miracle, a miracle.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it is a miracle. It is a miracle. Mss Burns,

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Speaker 2: could could you tell me who did Haley think? With

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Speaker 2: Whom did Haley think she was communicating?

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Speaker 7: She knew she was talking to someone that was a man,

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Speaker 7: but she thought he was eighteen to twenty one. She

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Speaker 7: he's thirty six, and at Alheim he was thirty. It

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Speaker 7: thirty six now. So she thought she was talking to

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Speaker 7: someone closer to her age. I think she thought eighteen

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Speaker 4: Be twenty one.

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Speaker 7: But he told her he was older, and that was

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Speaker 7: part of it, was I'm older and I can help

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Speaker 7: you with your mental illness.

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Speaker 4: Her mental illness.

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Speaker 2: She had an eating disorder, she had an eiding disorder,

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Speaker 2: and he totally played on that and then got her

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Speaker 2: in his closes and then starved her, starved her in

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Speaker 2: a dog cage and assaulted her. I mean, and I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking about these two little girls, Jade and Chloe. I'm

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Speaker 2: hearing what Miss Burns Haley's mom was telling us she

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Speaker 2: went through while Heley was gone. Three hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Alexis Tereschuk joining US Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter

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Speaker 2: and mom of a little boy. I just feel like

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Speaker 2: it's like two little cherubs going into a dark forest

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Speaker 2: full of lions and tigers and bears.

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Speaker 4: That's what the internet is.

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Speaker 2: These two girls are talking to who they think is

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Speaker 2: What did they think, Alexis it was a sixteen year

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Speaker 2: old boy.

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Speaker 9: Yep, a teenage boy. But sixteen is still too old

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Speaker 9: to be talking to a twelve year old.

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Speaker 2: But in any event, getting into a car and going

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Speaker 2: off to meet a boy that you think is sixteen

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Speaker 2: years old, how did they get the car?

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Speaker 4: Let's just start at the beginning.

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Speaker 9: So Jade Gregory, who is twelve, she I guess, got

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Speaker 9: the keys from her parents and in the middle of

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Speaker 9: the night, took their car, drove it over to her

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Speaker 9: friend's house. Her friend's fourteen picked her up, and that's

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Speaker 9: Chloe Larson, and they hit the road in the middle

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Speaker 9: of the night. She just quietly snuck out of the house,

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Speaker 9: took dad's keys, backed out.

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Speaker 6: Of the driveway, and left town.

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Speaker 2: Captain Lynn Williams joining me Chief Deputy Union County Sheriff's

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Speaker 2: office there in Florida where the girls go missing. It's

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Speaker 2: late Butler, Isn't that right, Captain Lake Butler, Florida.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's correct.

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, just trying to take this in.

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Speaker 2: How they even got out of the house, and not

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Speaker 2: one but two because the twelve year old gets out

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Speaker 2: and gets the car. Did they not have a burglar

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Speaker 2: alarm that would go off if a door opened.

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Speaker 6: No, they're at about one am.

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Speaker 5: They noticed their dog was barking, but again they didn't

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Speaker 5: think a whole lot of that, So we're thinking it

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Speaker 5: could have happened around one am. So when the parents

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Speaker 5: woke up about six am, they noticed the car was gone,

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Speaker 5: and they noticed the keys were gone obviously, and noticed

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Speaker 5: their daughter was gone. And that's when they called us

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Speaker 5: with a lot of concerns and panic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you hear a mom like you just

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Speaker 2: To you, Dean Carson joining me out of the Florida jurisdiction,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at Jay Gregory right now in a picture

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Speaker 10: Federal law enforcement warns parents and families to pay attention

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Speaker 13: Platforms that children are getting onto, the encryption abilities, the

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Speaker 4: What does that mean? Grooming?

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Speaker 14: Grooming is the perverse courtship the predators use to gain

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Speaker 2: Interesting back to you, Captain Williams, hearing what Anna Sonoda

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Speaker 4: I'm taking a look.

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Speaker 2: At County Road two thirty seven in Lake Butler. This

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Speaker 6: There is nothing, yes, ma'am, that's correct.

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Speaker 4: Just curious.

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Speaker 2: Captain Lynn Anderson, chief deputy there in Union County, how

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Speaker 2: Trake is one of the first places you stop pit

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Speaker 17: The police say she snuck away to meet this man,

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Speaker 2: You know, it never ends to doctor Dan Anderson joining

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Speaker 2: to become a school teacher as I plan, but to

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Speaker 2: become a prosecutor. But it affects the way I couldn't

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Speaker 2: even consider remarrying for over twenty years. It's the way

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Speaker 2: I look at the world now like something can and

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Speaker 2: very likely will something bad happen. I have to watch

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Speaker 2: the children like a hawk because what happened before, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it changes everything. So you think your child is doing fine,

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Speaker 2: but it will be there the rest of her life.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I have a devastating emotional impact obviously not just

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Speaker 8: for the victim or the victims that we're talking about today,

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Speaker 8: but the family and the loved ones that experienced that trauma. Recently,

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Speaker 8: I listened to thirty seven molestation stories as part of

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Speaker 8: a civil lawsuit, and that was traumatic. Each story that

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Speaker 8: you intensely listen to or experience or try to understand it,

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Speaker 8: you have trauma, and it can take It's a lot

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Speaker 8: to handle, and even just hearing one experience, but the

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Speaker 8: emotional attachment.

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Speaker 6: You have for your loved ones.

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Speaker 8: I know I have seven siblings and I've had several

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Speaker 8: that have been you know, sexually abused or raped or

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Speaker 8: things that have happened, and that it is so traumatizing

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Speaker 8: and so horrific because you feel so connected to those people,

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Speaker 8: you love them so much, and it feels like it

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Speaker 8: also kind of happened to you because you love them

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Speaker 8: so much and are so deeply connected. So I sympathize

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Speaker 8: with the mothers here today and the families that is

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Speaker 8: held on to hope as their little girls were out there.

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Speaker 8: I can't even imagine the type of trauma that that

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Speaker 8: feels like. And all I can say is that it

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Speaker 8: takes time, but it is. It is a lasting scar

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Speaker 8: that goes very deep.

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Speaker 2: You are hearing forensic psychologist doctor Dana Anderson at psychologydoctor

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Speaker 2: dot com. You know, so, it's hard to fathom how

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Speaker 2: far and to what lengths online predators will go to

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Speaker 2: snare their child victim to have sex with them. Take

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Speaker 2: a listen to our cut nineteen from WISN. You're never

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Speaker 2: gonna believe what this pedophile did to get to his victim.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 19: Tommy Lee Jenkins' first conviction on child sex charges was

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Speaker 19: in twenty eleven. Now he's charged In a new investigation

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Speaker 19: document show Jenkins used Facebook to communicate with someone he

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Speaker 19: thought was fourteen. It was actually an undercover deputy who

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Speaker 19: asked do you care I'm fourteen and drink Jenkins reply,

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Speaker 19: According to the records, No prosecutors claimed Jenkins initiated the

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Speaker 19: topic of sex and wanted the undercover to send a

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Speaker 19: picture with no shirt no pens, asking when you get here,

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Speaker 19: would you like to have sex with me? The undercover

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Speaker 19: responded yes, and Jenkins allegedly told the undercover he planned

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Speaker 19: to walk nearly four hundred miles from Whitstown, Indiana, to

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Speaker 19: Wisconsin to meet for sex. On the way Prosecutors claim

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Speaker 19: Jenkins documented the trip with selfies and pictures of exit signs,

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Speaker 19: and on Thursday record show, Jenkins told the undercover he

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Speaker 19: made it to Wisconsin and wanted to have five hundred

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Speaker 19: kids before we are with God. Instead, Jenkins found investigators

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Speaker 19: waiting to take him back to jail.

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Speaker 2: To Annistonota child grooming expert and author of Duck Groom, Anna,

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Speaker 2: did you hear that this known sex offender walks walks

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Speaker 2: four hundred miles to get to a fourteen year old

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Speaker 2: girl for sex and then immediately announcing.

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Speaker 4: I want to have five hundred kids with you.

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Speaker 2: Translation, I want to get you and the cheapest motel

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Speaker 2: I can find and rape you.

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Speaker 6: That's what that means, Nancy.

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Speaker 14: It's an appalling example of how intentional and determined predators are.

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Speaker 14: They are patient hunters, and oftentimes, especially in these adolescent situations,

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Speaker 14: they've capitalized on adolescent angst anger or animosity in their.

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Speaker 6: Lives or caregivers.

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Speaker 14: And that is an incredibly vulnerable place for any adolescent

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Speaker 14: girl to be in.

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Speaker 6: And I think this.

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Speaker 14: Case gives us an example for every family to learn

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Speaker 14: from about what parents can do about having conversations about

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Speaker 14: making sure devices are open, and that we're regulating use,

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Speaker 14: and that we're monitoring and not only just using and

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Speaker 14: relying on software, but that we're following up. We're checking

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Speaker 14: through all communications, all text messages. We know that the

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Speaker 14: majority of young girls online produce content in their bathrooms

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Speaker 14: and their bedrooms, the two most private places in your home.

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Speaker 14: So we need to be having and encouraging parents to

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Speaker 14: be engaged and fully aware of all online use, including

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Speaker 14: solitary contact that may be happening through DMS or through

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Speaker 14: online chats.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just the threat of the person you're

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Speaker 2: communicating with. At the other end of the line, there

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Speaker 2: is the specter of sex trafficking, not just one rapist,

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Speaker 2: but many. Take a listener to our friends at kfor

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Speaker 2: and CUT twenty two.

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Speaker 12: There were a number of people involved with not only

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Speaker 12: this girl, but others.

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Speaker 6: But we did everything we could define this girl.

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Speaker 20: The list keeps growing and the number of people arrested

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Speaker 20: in a sex trafficking ring. Oklahoma City Police have announced

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Speaker 20: five more arrests in connection to the Missing Texas Team

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Speaker 20: found Safe in Oklahoma City that now brings the total

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Speaker 20: to eight people in custody.

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Speaker 18: This girl is a juvenile and she was in the

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Speaker 18: company of sex traffickers.

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Speaker 20: The fifteen year old was seen leaving a Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 20: basketball game with men two weeks ago. A week later,

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Speaker 20: naked photos of a team appearing on a website known

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Speaker 20: for prostitution.

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Speaker 12: Last Thursday, a number of these people played a role

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Speaker 12: in trying to get this girl trafficked for purposes of sex.

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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: To you, Alexis Tereschuk, it's not just the threat of

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Speaker 2: whoever you're.

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Speaker 4: Communicating with them online.

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Speaker 2: It's the possibility of the child getting sex trafficked and

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Speaker 2: also ending up dead.

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Speaker 6: Alexis, it is and that's the thing.

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Speaker 9: And I want to point out that it's not just

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Speaker 9: on like the dark web where these girls are going.

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Speaker 9: They're not sophisticated to internet girls. They're just like on

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Speaker 9: video game chat rooms, you know, where they're playing games.

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Speaker 9: You know the man that we spoke about, he was

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Speaker 9: on a Yashoo chat room.

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Speaker 6: It's so easy for these girls. We don't so.

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Speaker 9: Yes, many of these men are sex trackers. So they

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Speaker 9: will take these.

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Speaker 6: Young, young, young girls.

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Speaker 9: They will abuse them, immediately, assault them, torture them, and

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Speaker 9: that just breaks their souls and then they just pass

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Speaker 9: them around to all of these different people and the

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Speaker 9: discussing motels. And this is something that the police are

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Speaker 9: working on so hard to stop because once these girls

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Speaker 9: get into a system like that, it is so hard

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Speaker 9: to get them out. They're so sophisticated at hiding them

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Speaker 9: that they often can never be heard from again.

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Speaker 2: The horrible truth is that once they get into the

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Speaker 2: sex trafficking ring, they're practically lost. It's very hard to

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Speaker 2: find them because sex traffickers. Isn't this true. Let me

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Speaker 2: go out to the sheriff chief Deputy of Union County.

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Speaker 2: Once the child is sex trafficked, one of the goals

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Speaker 2: of the six traffickers are to hide the child. They

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Speaker 2: go from motel to motel, they go from town to town,

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Speaker 2: like from one part of LA to another part of

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Speaker 2: LA to another city in California, and the child becomes

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Speaker 2: so disoriented, front drugged and beaten.

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Speaker 4: They don't even know where they are.

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Speaker 5: Oh sure, they want to hide the crime. They want

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Speaker 5: to hide themselves. They want to hide the victim. Definitely, yes,

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Speaker 5: they want to be off the map.

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Speaker 4: And they do it.

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Speaker 2: They get the child so drugged and beaten, the child

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Speaker 2: has no idea where they are anymore what hotel they're in,

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Speaker 2: They're moved during the night, and the child only knows

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Speaker 2: that they are being raped and sodomized by a series

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Speaker 2: of men. Okay, twelve year old sounds pretty young to

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Speaker 2: be twelve year twelve year old girl driving through the night.

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Speaker 2: What about eleven years old trying to meet an online predator?

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our cut eighteen from WLTX Charleston.

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Speaker 21: Polies have now reunited an eleven year old boy from

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Speaker 21: Simpsonville with his family after the boy drove two hundred

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Speaker 21: miles throughout the night.

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Speaker 6: Please say that.

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Speaker 21: The boy was going out to the coast to meet

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Speaker 21: a man he met on Snapchat. Around midnight, the boy

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Speaker 21: pulled up alongside an officer and told him that he

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Speaker 21: had just driven three hours and he was lost because

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Speaker 21: his GPS signal didn't work. Fortunately, the officer was able

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Speaker 21: to connect the child with his father, who then came

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Speaker 21: to pick him up. Authority say that the boy used

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Speaker 21: his older brother's car to make the trip and that

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Speaker 21: his father was in the process of reporting him missing

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Speaker 21: to police. Police have not identified a suspect yet and

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Speaker 21: this case remains under investigation.

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Speaker 2: So this little eleven year old boy meets a predator,

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Speaker 2: and it was a grown man, as it turned out

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Speaker 2: online who convinces the little boy to steal a car

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Speaker 2: and drive all the way through the night. And some

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Speaker 2: would call it a coincidence. I call it a miracle.

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Speaker 4: Out of the blue.

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Speaker 2: Out of the blue, the little boy's GPS quits working

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Speaker 2: and he pulls over. I believe it's at a Burger

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Speaker 2: King to try to reboot his GP. Y in sitting

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Speaker 2: right there in the Burger King parking lot was a

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Speaker 2: deputy sheriff, a cop ellie law enforcement, much like Captain

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Speaker 2: Lynn Williams who sees an eleven year old at the

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Speaker 2: wheel at two o'clock in the morning and investigates and

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Speaker 2: saves the boy's life. The other case is that our

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Speaker 2: similar transactions to this do not end as well, with

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Speaker 2: the child raped, sodomized, sex trafficked, or dead. Take us

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Speaker 2: now to our cut nine. David Snyder, WCJB.

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Speaker 22: We have new details tonight about the two young runaways

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Speaker 22: from Lake Butler who drove themselves to Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Union County.

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Speaker 22: S Sheriff's investigators say the pair left hone to meet

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Speaker 22: someone on the internet. The missing childer was issued one

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Speaker 22: week ago for twelve year old Jade Gregory and fourteen

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Speaker 22: year old Chloe Larson. Deputy say Gregory stole her dad's

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Speaker 22: car and started driving to Louisiana with Larson. The two

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Speaker 22: girls were stopped before they could destination.

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Speaker 6: The next day.

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Speaker 22: FBI agents are now trying to find out who they

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Speaker 22: were supposed to meet.

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Speaker 2: Straight back out to Captain Lynn Williams, chief deputy there

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Speaker 2: in Union County, tell me about your search for these

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Speaker 2: two girls and how you found them.

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Speaker 5: All right, So, we contacted numerous agencies that were involved,

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Speaker 5: everyone from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to the FBI,

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Speaker 5: because you know, again given the time frame, we were

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Speaker 5: afraid that they were going to cross over state lines

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Speaker 5: by the time again we're talking about a five hour

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Speaker 5: delay before we were even notified that they could be

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Speaker 5: possibly missing when they were discovered. So we had the

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Speaker 5: FBI involved in this. We had again the Missing Endangered

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Speaker 5: Children Unit. We contacted the Florida Highway Patrol since they

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Speaker 5: were on the interstate, believed to have been on the interstate.

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Speaker 5: We contacted Bache and Rouge Police Department in case they

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Speaker 5: did make it to the location that we thought they

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Speaker 5: were going to and we had everybody would put them

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Speaker 5: into our local, state national computers. We immediately started doing

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Speaker 5: media releases, getting their photos out there, getting everybody notified,

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Speaker 5: just trying to trying to flood the internet with their

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Speaker 5: picture to look for them. And that's what ended up

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Speaker 5: their rescue, getting them.

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Speaker 4: Tell me about the rescue itself.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 5: So due to the success of having their photo out

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Speaker 5: there in so many states and all the way across

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Speaker 5: to iten, we were under We understood that the girls

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Speaker 5: went to a convenience store. When they went in the

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Speaker 5: convenience store again, Jade left without her phone. Chloe didn't

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Speaker 5: have a phone, so we were not able to do

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Speaker 5: traditional means of tracking them through through that type of stuff,

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Speaker 5: so we had to get creative to try to try

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Speaker 5: to find them and locate them. With all of that,

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Speaker 5: we understand that they did have a device with them.

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Speaker 5: We had the IP address, and we were trying to

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Speaker 5: ping different social media accounts of them, and they went

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Speaker 5: into a store in Alabama and made contact with some

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Speaker 5: friends who said and showed them their picture. And once

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Speaker 5: they realized the national coverage of all of this, they

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Speaker 5: ended their journey and went and turned themselves into the

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Speaker 5: local police department in Alabama.

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Speaker 2: You know what you're reminding me of, Captain Lynn Williams

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Speaker 2: joining us from Union County Sheriff's office, and Alexis I

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: recall you and I discussing it at the time, the

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Speaker 2: case of Dylan and Shasta Grownie who were kidnapped by

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Speaker 2: a predator in cour Delaine, Idaho, which is all rural.

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Speaker 2: A convenience store worker recognized Shasta from the coverage, much

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Speaker 2: like the coverage you generated, Captain Williams, and it saved

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Speaker 2: Shasta's life. Dylan had already been murdered by the perpetrator after.

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Speaker 4: Non stop rapes.

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Speaker 2: And sodomies, but Shasta's life was saved, you know, Captain Williams.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine what would have happened if some man

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Speaker 2: had picked them up at a gas station or truck

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Speaker 2: stop in the middle of the night while they go

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Speaker 2: in to get a soda or a candy bar. Can

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Speaker 2: you even imagine?

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Speaker 5: It scares us to death to think about it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: just like you said, at their age twelve and fourteen,

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Speaker 5: out on their own, yeah, I mean that was our

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Speaker 5: biggest fear. You know, we again, we said, no foul

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Speaker 5: play expected. At the time, we were not sure of

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Speaker 5: who they were planning to go meet, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we had a potential city of Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 6: I know that that's a.

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Speaker 5: Long ways for two young girls on their own again

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Speaker 5: in the middle of the night, to go out there.

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Speaker 5: I can't even imagine my daughter, you know, trying to

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Speaker 5: make a journey like that. So yes, we treated this

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Speaker 5: very serious.

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Speaker 2: To Shawna Burns, Hailey Burns's mother, her daughter lured by

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Speaker 2: an online predator. Ms Burns, what is your message to

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Speaker 2: Jade and close parents and to all the other moms

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Speaker 2: and dads they're listening right now.

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Speaker 7: First of all, I want to say how important it

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Speaker 7: is that the law enforcement work together, because the exact

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Speaker 7: same thing happened in our case. If we had not

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Speaker 7: had the FBI and the Georgia Bureaus investigation and the

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Speaker 7: local police, if they had not worked so well together

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Speaker 7: so quickly, we would not have been able to rescue

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Speaker 7: our daughter the way that we were. And that is

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00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 7: so integral that law enforcement works with each other. I

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Speaker 7: just want to say, like that is that is the

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Speaker 7: difference I think in our story and other stories is

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Speaker 7: in law enforcement works together because it's very, very very important.

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Speaker 7: In our case, we had the first message we received

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Speaker 7: was at eight forty seven, and then by twelve oh

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Speaker 7: nine we had her. So within four hours of the

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Speaker 7: first message we have found her, but only with the

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Speaker 7: help of all of the people involved. And I want

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Speaker 7: to say to any other parents out there, the number

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Speaker 7: one thing that I always say is we lost sight

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Speaker 7: of Hayley. We only saw Hailey's behavior problems. We only

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00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 7: saw her getting in trouble at school, we only saw

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Speaker 7: her failing, We only saw her being a problem. We

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Speaker 7: lost sight of the little girl that's still in there,

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Speaker 7: that still wants her mom and still wants her dad

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Speaker 7: to love her and be proud of her. And when

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Speaker 7: you stop doing that, that is when they can come in. So,

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Speaker 7: no matter what, you have to make sure that your

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Speaker 7: kids know that they love them, no matter what, you

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00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 7: were always going to be there for them, because it's

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Speaker 7: not That's how those predators grew them, that's how they

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 2: This was a miracle. This was a miracle. These two

741
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: girls were saved. Captain Lynn Williams. If you never do

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Speaker 2: another good thing for the rest of your tenure, which

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Speaker 2: I highly doubt, I'm pretty sure you got your angels wings.

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Speaker 12: Uh huh.

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Speaker 5: Well, we made a promise to the parents that we

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Speaker 5: were going to find them and bring them back safe,

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Speaker 5: and we fulfilled that we brought them back safely.

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Speaker 2: For everyone listening right now, I hope you hear the

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Speaker 2: words of Shawna Burns to never leave sight of that

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Speaker 2: little child.

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Speaker 4: Goodbye, friend,