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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are

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Speaker 1: So stick around two minutes and we'll get into the episode.

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Speaker 2: I realized that my mute button wasn't muted during a

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Speaker 2: two hour meeting.

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Speaker 3: And nobody told you this.

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Speaker 2: Happened two hours ago, and I'm still hiding under my blankets.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: It was a massive all hands on deck meeting with

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Speaker 2: about forty people in it for a project launch. Usually

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Speaker 2: I keep my mind hard muted on my headset, but

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Speaker 2: today I was eating lunch, so I was double muted

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Speaker 2: software mute, headset mute, or so I thought. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this comes from Arma Mede And if you want to

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Speaker 2: speak old stories, go to the r slash Okay story

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Speaker 2: Time suber at it. I'm Riley, I'm Angie, and we

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Speaker 2: give good advice goofully. Mainly our thing here and your

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Speaker 2: thing is comment what you know down below because we

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Speaker 2: want to hear it. We don't really have that much information.

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Speaker 2: So op, He says about forty five minutes in the

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Speaker 2: project manager was explaining a delay in the timeline. I,

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Speaker 2: thinking I was safe in my cocoon of silence, let

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Speaker 2: out a very loud, very deep sigh and muttered, Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, just get to the point already. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, Remember that one scene in the office when

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Speaker 2: someone got a complaint for Darryl, like calling someone while

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Speaker 2: he was having spicy sleep. Remember that he got a

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Speaker 2: complaint from Kelly. Yeah, yeah, so there were one of

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Speaker 2: the episodes. That's what happened.

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Speaker 3: Was that, like a super fan episode or something?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Got it.

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Speaker 2: Turns out he was just eating spaghetti.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right, and he didn't want to tell

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Speaker 4: anyone that that was the truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was already worried that you're I don't know

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Speaker 2: if people moaned, but you said that.

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Speaker 3: Yikes.

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Speaker 2: You don't say that no meetings, do you out loud?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I have at some point.

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Speaker 4: There was one time where I I I didn't realize

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Speaker 4: I was muted, and I kind of I was like

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Speaker 4: on some meeting and they were playing music. It was

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Speaker 4: a weird training thing, okay, but we also weren't paid

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Speaker 4: to be there. It was weird, but my friends were there,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, this is the kind of music

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Speaker 4: I think your MIC's on. It's like, oh sorry.

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Speaker 2: The audio didn't just pick it up because of the

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Speaker 2: way Team Zoom prioritize active speakers. My face popped up

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Speaker 2: on the main screen first bit. Second. The silence was deafening.

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Speaker 2: The project manager stopped for a solid five seconds. Nobody

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Speaker 2: is how I feel working with everybody, because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of the guy that gets everything going. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'll be talking about something and they're

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Speaker 2: just like, just get on with him. Man, just shut up,

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Speaker 2: let's get going. Yeah, I mean you just got That's

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Speaker 2: how it goes though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of just the employee boss type. Yeah, dynamic,

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Speaker 4: you just have to you just hopefully it's not said.

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Speaker 2: I slowly reached up and tapped my headset it beaped

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Speaker 2: mute on. It had been off the whole time. I

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Speaker 2: have not checked my sack messages, and I'm considering faking

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Speaker 2: my own passing and moving to a farm. We have

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Speaker 2: some comments here, Comet one. I'm sorry my cat makes

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Speaker 2: noises sometimes that sound like frustrated complaints. Really good at talking.

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Speaker 4: Listen, Yeah, I just have a parrot and uh, I

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Speaker 2: Come it too unfortunate, life lesson. It's better to assume

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Speaker 2: everyone can hear you all the time in a big meeting,

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Speaker 2: especially when stakeholders are clients, or anything of the sort

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Speaker 2: is involved. It can be exhausting, but it really prevents

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Speaker 2: you from saying anything or doing anything stupid. Ope, he

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Speaker 2: says this can backfire too. I want to mute it

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Speaker 2: myself and a team meeting burped loudly and then unmuted.

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Speaker 2: Except I was already muted, So from everyone's perspective, I've

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Speaker 4: So funny if someone actually did that, if someone did

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my boss thanked me for my contribution.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully they take it as.

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Speaker 3: I don't know and have a sense of humor about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the burp is maybe a little easier to have

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Speaker 2: If I heard that complaint while giving a speech, ill

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Speaker 2: So next step. Yeah, yeah, because I know that person. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Something I learned over years of working in a call center.

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Speaker 2: Never ever talk crap while on a call. Even if

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Speaker 2: you think you're muted, the person next to you might

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Speaker 2: not be muted. The person that sent you an instant

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Speaker 2: message might be screen sharing. Don't talk crap unless you're

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Speaker 2: on a secure line aka not using a work device.

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Speaker 2: Comp at four. Just own it. You meant what you said,

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Speaker 2: and the reply is this is the correct answer. Like

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Speaker 2: it or not. You are now the bearer of honesty.

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Speaker 2: Embrace it. We have an update.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think that could be part of it.

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Speaker 4: You can't just be like, oh, I didn't mean it,

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Speaker 4: I didn't do that, you know, Like that's just gonna

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Speaker 4: make it worse if you kind of have to own

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Speaker 4: it and then apologize, just like, yeah, unfortunately I was

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Speaker 4: feeling a little annoyed. But it's not something I would

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Speaker 3: Big of a deal.

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Speaker 4: Like I speak my mind past, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I know that that's not my place, and I know

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Speaker 4: that you had a reason for your talking, and that's

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Speaker 4: just my impatient self coming out, and I apologize for

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Speaker 3: I just that's so that does suck though.

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Speaker 2: My next question, m M, can you get fired over this?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It probably wouldn't get you fired alone, but it might

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Speaker 4: put you on like list. Yeah, you'd be on some

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Speaker 2: You're on the list. You tell me I pissed my

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Update. First of all, thank you to everyone who suggested

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Speaker 2: I fake my own passing and moved to a farm.

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Speaker 2: You suggested that, Opie. I spent last night looking up

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Speaker 2: potato farming tutorials on YouTube, but unfortunately I have a mortgage,

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Speaker 2: at eight fifty nine am. My heart was beating so

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Speaker 2: Twelve unread messages.

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Speaker 3: From who, from who? From who? I'm so scared.

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Speaker 2: Most were from my work friends, sending me skull emojis

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Speaker 2: and gifts of people digging graves. But there it was

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Speaker 2: a direct message from the project manager himself. Sit at

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Speaker 2: four thirty pm yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh.

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Speaker 2: The message says, hey, I'm project manager. Do you have

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Speaker 3: I guess they're like this morning.

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Speaker 2: I almost threw up. Quick sync is corporate speak for execution.

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Speaker 2: I joined the call, no video. I wasn't ready for

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Speaker 2: him to see the fear in my eyes. He joined

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Speaker 2: silence for three seconds. Then he laughed a dry, tired

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Speaker 2: leve and he said, so yesterday. I immediately started apologizing.

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Speaker 2: I at least a word salad of technical difficulties, bad days,

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Speaker 2: audio glitch and I'm so sorry. He cut me off

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Speaker 2: and said, look, honestly, you weren't wrong, okay. I realized

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Speaker 2: about deadlines. I stopped breathing. Was this a trap? He continued. However,

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Speaker 2: let's maybe keep the commentary to the internal monologue next time.

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Speaker 2: My boss was on that call. He thinks it was

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Speaker 2: a unprofessional, but I told him that you were just

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Speaker 2: frustrated with the audio issues. You owe me one the result.

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Speaker 2: I'm not fired, yay. However, officially, the mute guy not

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Speaker 2: a bad nickname.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not too bad.

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Speaker 2: I'd take it if I got a mortgage to take.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that does kind of make sense, like if

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Speaker 4: I mean, depending on how long you've been a boss

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's more nerve wracking somehow, dude.

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Speaker 4: But I could understand if like that made you be

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Speaker 3: Was that wrong? You know?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Probably best case scenario would just happen, though.

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Speaker 2: I'm just glad I'm cool with my bosses. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: and I cannot do this. Yeah, you guys gotta call

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Speaker 2: me some salah or yeah, I'm ready for more stuff.

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Speaker 4: There's a level of communication that you kind of unlock

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Speaker 4: when you're friends with your bosses.

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Speaker 2: During the stand up meeting today, when I joined, another

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Speaker 2: coworker typed in the chat, careful everyone, the truth teller

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Speaker 2: is here. I have taped a physical piece of cardboard

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Speaker 2: another little update. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: I mean we can joke about it. That's if people

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Speaker 4: This is so funny, especially if your other friends were

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, like you're you're in the clear.

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Speaker 2: The thing that's stuff for me is I'll be on

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Speaker 2: calls with like brands like iHeart or other things. People

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Speaker 2: I'm always afraid that they'll hear me.

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Speaker 3: Even though you're answering their questions.

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Speaker 2: So, like with the uncle grandpa Dad's story, do you

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Speaker 2: want to read that first? Or do we want to

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Speaker 2: like go with the cheating son that cheated on their mom?

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Speaker 2: Which one do you want to pick first? And it's like, oh, maybe,

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Speaker 2: like I had, that's kind of like my job is

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Speaker 2: like which title sounds better? Your grandpa cheated on my

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Speaker 2: wife or grandpa stole my dog? You know something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like crazy stuff like crazy?

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Speaker 3: So what are you nervous about? With all that?

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Speaker 2: I have to like hear it and with zero context

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Speaker 2: and be like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: Like other people who are not on the call will

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Speaker 4: My coworker wants my vacation revoked because it's unfair for everyone.

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Speaker 4: Every year, my husband and I take several long vacations

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Speaker 4: She said that I hate kids based on remarks that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's too new to be talking like this. Both

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Speaker 4: I also overheard her telling a team member that I

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Speaker 4: A coworker she complained to said he felt that I

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Speaker 3: We obviously know who these coworkers talk to.

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Speaker 2: Then if someone doesn't ask for your point of view,

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Speaker 4: I admit I used the buzzwords intimidation and slander to

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Speaker 2: Think protect your vacation, Tom when you can git hard?

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Speaker 2: Because the way we're set up is you got to work, work, work, work, work.

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Speaker 2: You don't really get that much time off. Sharpening the

440
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,959
Speaker 2: saw is a very very very undervalued thing that we

441
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 2: I feel like people don't practice all the time.

442
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's very the The idea is like, hustle, hustle, hustle, Yeah,

443
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 4: do as much as like if you have to like

444
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,439
Speaker 4: hurt yourself over it, and like that's what you gotta do.

445
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: That means that you're a good worker.

446
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 2: If I didn't have the week of Thanksgiving off, I

447
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 2: don't think i'd be, you know, running around as much

448
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,719
Speaker 2: as I have.

449
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been running around? Yeah yeah, yeah, you needed

450
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 3: to break.

451
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like, dude, because beginning of this, I

452
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 4: was kind of thinking like, oh, if I was Haley,

453
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 4: like I would kind of think like, oh, that does suck,

454
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 4: Like maybe this year since I just started, Like that's okay,

455
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 4: But like if that happened every year and you just

456
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 4: couldn't ever get that time off, which is a typical

457
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 4: holiday time to get time off because someone else already

458
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 4: had it, like that would suck, you know what I mean?

459
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 4: Like I would understand that. But the way she went

460
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 4: about it is like not cool, dude. You gotta understand

461
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: the hierarchies of experience in a job, you know. Comment

462
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 4: number one says, not the a hole that is not venting,

463
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 4: that is creating a hostile work environment. She only started

464
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 4: in October. How much time does she think she's entitled to.

465
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: A lot of companies don't even allow PTO usage in

466
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 4: the first ninety days. Tell the coworker they could have

467
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 4: volunteered to cover for the new person. Comment number two says, yeah,

468
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 4: I've had jobs where you wouldn't even be in the

469
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 4: running for time off after two months. It's often based

470
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: on seniority. I think this girl resents your freedom. Opie says,

471
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 4: that is what another coworker said. But I also want

472
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 4: to make it clear that I've never said a word

473
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Speaker 4: to anyone about how great it is to be child free.

474
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: Oh well, of course I would think.

475
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 4: That that's why I don't have kids, But I've never

476
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: once rubbed it in her face or even told people

477
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Speaker 4: about my life. I'm nice, and I tell people where

478
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 4: I'm going if they ask what my plans are.

479
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 3: And I really don't even have to do that. Ps.

480
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: I am not the only one off.

481
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Speaker 4: We are a team of five people, and two other

482
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 4: coworkers are off during the time that she wants, but

483
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: they have children. And the remarks she asked me when

484
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 4: she started, why I don't want kids?

485
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: And I said, I.

486
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: Like coming home to a cleaning, quiet house. That's the

487
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 4: extent of the remarks.

488
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: And you hate children.

489
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Speaker 4: Thank goodness, ed it's I am the US Midwest and

490
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 4: my company is huge on work life balance due to

491
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 4: burnout in our field. You're eligible to use PTO after

492
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Speaker 4: thirty days, and it occurs fast.

493
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Speaker 3: After looking, Haley is eligible for fifty two hours of

494
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Speaker 3: PTO to date.

495
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Speaker 2: What and she started in October?

496
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: I guess, so, yeah, whyccurs fast?

497
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Speaker 2: If I had that? Oh my gosh, if I had that,

498
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: I would have so many days off, so many days

499
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: because I'd plan it out during the holidays so I

500
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Speaker 2: get like an extra day or so.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd strategize it fort Oh my dude.

502
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: And a number two A lot of questions about my

503
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 4: vacation time during the FD. My company allowed us to

504
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: roll over all PTO from twenty twenty to twenty twenty

505
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 4: two because of travel restrictions. In twenty twenty three, they

506
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: moved the bar from one hundred and fifty hours, which

507
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: is four ish weeks up to two hundred and fifty

508
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 4: six ish weeks rollover because many people complained about losing

509
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: time when they didn't travel. Interesting, so I wonder, it's

510
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 4: not twenty.

511
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Speaker 2: Four it's not twenty four hours. So I miscalculated too.

512
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Speaker 2: Hundred fifty divided by eight because eight is a work.

513
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Speaker 3: Day, work day, okay, okay, okay.

514
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: That's thirty one days. Wow, so you get thirty one.

515
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 4: Well it's probably business days too, because this says it's

516
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: about six ish weeks.

517
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Speaker 3: That would be about four weeks, four or five maybe.

518
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh so that's thirty one business business days, I think. Yeah,

519
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: so that that would be like thirty one divided.

520
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that would be six weeks.

521
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh my god. Where do you work?

522
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: Where do you work?

523
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm Bertel.

524
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Speaker 4: It's amazing you were not required to bank you time.

525
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: Some people took theirs and traveled. We stayed home mostly

526
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: from twenty twenty to mid twenty twenty two, and started

527
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: traveling again in October twenty twenty two. I banked two

528
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty hours, and since I'm still occurring, I

529
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 4: have a lot of hours built up. I do snow

530
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 4: activities in the winter, so we barely travel and don't

531
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 4: start traveling until May, by which time I've.

532
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Speaker 3: Accrued more time. Hope this helps h well and we

533
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: do have an update. This is wild, so update now.

534
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: Some things to clear up before the update.

535
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it wasn't a cap fight.

536
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: To recap vacation time. I am not the only person

537
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: off every December. There are two other people off as

538
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: well who Haley did not ask to cancel. They are

539
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 4: both mothers. There's no seniority involved. It's first come, first

540
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: served for time off. Lastly, I am not monopolizing the

541
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 4: Christmas holiday in January. We all take one of the

542
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: slower days and have a two to three hour lunch

543
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 4: to go over the calendar for the year of proposed

544
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: vacation time. I live in a very outdoorsy state, so

545
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 4: coworkers into local outdoor activities like hike, camping, and backpacking

546
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 4: prefer spring and summer off. I prefer domestic and international travel,

547
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: so December works for me and supports the team.

548
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, it sounded like it's worked for you

549
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: for the last nine years.

550
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

551
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 4: Right, Like I feel like she would be much not

552
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: respected if she just kind of snatched up all the.

553
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: Hours that she could.

554
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: You know, this was a collective decision, and I've always

555
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 4: been flexible with my team. At my company, PTO can

556
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: be used after thirty days during probation, but supervisors have

557
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 4: discretion to deny requests. I was cold to Haley because

558
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 4: she said, since you don't have kids, I figured you could.

559
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: Cancel your vacation.

560
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 4: Because I immediately shut her down because it's a dangerous precedent

561
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 4: to suggest child free people always work when parents have

562
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: kid related obligations, I replied, I'm busy, sorry, no, and

563
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: turned back around.

564
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: That was my full statement.

565
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 4: I did not give a reason because I didn't owe

566
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: her details, and she rubbed me the wrong way from

567
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Speaker 4: the start.

568
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: No, I heard under your breath that you hate kids,

569
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: and especially her effing kid. I heard that Opie.

570
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 4: You name dropped her children and said I hate them

571
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: individually and personally.

572
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: That's how Hale man, honestly it is.

573
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: Lastly, Haley is not a younger girl with a toddler.

574
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: Her son is sixteen.

575
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 2: What I literally thought she had a three year old

576
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: or so say the same.

577
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: I truly was expecting him to be like five to seven.

578
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: Maybe that is.

579
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: Hilarious, said you can watch himself at home.

580
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 4: I didn't know this when we talked, but it doesn't

581
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 4: change my actions. She started in October and was still

582
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: in training, so we didn't have a personal foundation laid

583
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: out yet.

584
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: So yesterday morning.

585
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: I received an email from HR asking to interview me

586
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 4: before Haley's meeting, and my manager also got one. Lisa

587
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: called me in to talk about it. She asked why

588
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: I got up and left so fast. I told her

589
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 4: we know child free people are sometimes stereotyped as a

590
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: child hating monsters, and I felt Haley took it too far,

591
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: claiming I said things that I didn't about kids. Lisa

592
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: said it was fair, but suggested that I could have

593
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 4: tried talking more and hearing her app I was honest

594
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: and said I wasn't willing to continue after she told

595
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 4: a few people that I'm difficult to work with. Lisa

596
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: was taken aback and said Haley claimed that I reacted

597
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: that way as soon as she mentioned her son. I

598
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 4: said that was wildly untrue, and Lisa could ask Graham,

599
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 4: who sits next to me. He confirmed that I didn't

600
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 4: cut her off and that I was nice about saying

601
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: no Lisa said she would check with three other people

602
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: that Haley spoke to before the meeting on Friday. Oh

603
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: my god, this is such a hassle for like, this

604
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: is such a small problem that is being blown up

605
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: because of Hailey.

606
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: The boss knows, boss knows, he said. She said.

607
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: She asked if I'd be willing to meet with Haley

608
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: in a conference room.

609
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: I said yes.

610
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: Haley asked why I needed all the vacation time that

611
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 4: I had. I told her that I don't want to

612
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: discuss why I'm taking off because I don't even tell

613
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 4: our boss why I'm gone. She scoffed and said she

614
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: felt like I didn't care. She wanted to make memories

615
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: with her son. I said I didn't think about it,

616
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: and that she misled me, as her son is sixteen,

617
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: not a toddler, as implied.

618
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like I need I have my son, I

619
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: have a son to take care of it.

620
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: It's like, not that it's not worked still take care

621
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: of a sixteen year old, but like it's definitely they

622
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: can take care of themselves a lot more than a

623
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 4: three year old can't.

624
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: Hopefully they know how to cook themselves food.

625
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: They can, Yeah, they can be left alone at home.

626
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they can drive probably, Like yeah, they're a

627
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: young adult.

628
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: About self efficient, self sufficient.

629
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

630
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: If you're gonna let a coworker stop you, Hayley, from

631
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: making memories with your son, yeah right, you gotta check yourself.

632
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: Is this really the only time that you can make

633
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: memories with your son?

634
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, was maybe a wedding happening, maybe like some

635
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: other big event happening that you were like, oh, pee,

636
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: please help me out right, that's not here on the table.

637
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't see that.

638
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: It's like totally, uh, there's some sort of falsity name

639
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: that this is called.

640
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: But it's like you're twisting the words and it's like, oh,

641
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: so you don't want me to make memories with my son.

642
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: It's like I literally literally we didn't even say that,

643
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: like yes, yes.

644
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: Not at all.

645
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: She asked me not to speak about her son because

646
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: he has crippling anxiety and needs care when she isn't home.

647
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: I didn't speak further, but said that I was sorry

648
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: to hear that.

649
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: She just stated at his age, he's sixteen, I thought

650
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: you had a baby. I thought you literally had someone

651
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: that's learning to walk.

652
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: Right right until him.

653
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you needed to wipe someone's butt after

654
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: they went to the bathroom, like, like, that's a very

655
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: different situation here.

656
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: She then asked what days I would be giving her.

657
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: I asked if she called the meeting to talk about

658
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: what days I would work.

659
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: She said yes, which set me off. I stayed calm because.

660
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: The meeting was being recorded. I said, I thought we

661
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Speaker 4: were meeting for a formal apology, not to ask for

662
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Speaker 4: a switch. I wasn't interested, and suggested ending the.

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Speaker 2: Meeting, I'm be real, might set some people off here.

664
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Speaker 3: We have some more left, right, Yeah, there's a little

665
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Speaker 3: bit more.

666
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Speaker 2: The reason your son has crippling anxiety, Oh, probably because

667
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: of the way you've been treating him.

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Speaker 4: We have no information on that, but I wouldn't be

669
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: surprised from the information we do have, Like if she's

670
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Speaker 4: so freaking out and making such a mountain out of

671
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Speaker 4: this mole hill, Like, I would not be surprised if

672
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: he was raised like that. And it's like every teacher

673
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: he had was talk to about how they're not coddling

674
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Speaker 4: her son, you know, which, again this is all speculation,

675
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: but you know I could see that happening. Oh, you

676
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 4: can't stay at home alone until you're fourteen, because I

677
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: need to take care of you. I need to do

678
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: this and that because you're not ready for that. You

679
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 4: can't do this on your own all speculation.

680
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: Are you cool with just like not solving your kids problems?

681
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: You just let them figure it out.

682
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: I mean, depending on what it is. It's like a

683
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: problem with friends, then.

684
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm on the top shelf at grocery store physically.

685
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 3: They just can't do that night.

686
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: And there's two of them.

687
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Speaker 4: If it's super important and we're like crunched on time,

688
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: I'll grab it. If there's two of them, they need

689
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 4: to have fun and problems al together, go ahead.

690
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: Nah. If we're crutching on Tom and they can't get it,

691
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: they're being left the store not getting it figured out.

692
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: They have to grab their own groceries.

693
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're saying, their own money.

694
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: There is a little bit more to this story.

695
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Speaker 1: Hey, Sam, we're gonna get back to the stories. But

696
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors.

697
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Speaker 4: She was upset, asked if I wasn't giving her any days,

698
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: and I said no, then left.

699
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: She accused favoritism. I told her it was fine and

700
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: ended the recording on my phone for protection.

701
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: She said, our state is a consent recording state, and

702
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: you do not have my consent.

703
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: I told her to check the email and moved past her.

704
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: There's more, but I'm gonna pause with that really quick,

705
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: because why does she know that.

706
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: I really think that she might she might know that.

707
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: I would be willing to bet that she knows that

708
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: because multiple people have recorded a Karen in a store

709
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: that is her. And she's like, well, actually, you can't

710
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: do that because I have been recorded and I looked

711
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: it up and it wasn't allowed, and I'm gonna press charges.

712
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?

713
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: Probably right? She does sound very Karen right, like, come on,

714
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do this anymore.

715
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Speaker 4: All our meetings notes this meeting is being recorded. By

716
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 4: accepting the invitation, you are giving consent to being recorded

717
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: for necessary purposes. I felt this recording was necessary for

718
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: my protection. This morning, Haley.

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Speaker 3: Is out sick.

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Speaker 2: Oh no.

721
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: Lisa got an email from HR to reschedule because Hailey

722
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: said that she has the VID and hopes to return

723
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: next week.

724
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: The jury is still out and hopefully next week this

725
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: is behind us.

726
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm looking for an up date. I'm looking for for

727
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: an update.

728
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: Look for an update, no update, Oh, it was deleted.

729
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: The account was deleted.

730
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Speaker 3: But then obviously she turned crazy.

731
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: And made it so She's like, there's no redeeming qualities

732
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 4: in this situation, because like, I mean, what is it like,

733
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: is there something that we're missing? Is there something that

734
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 4: Hailey like, is this a really meaningful traditional trip that

735
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: they always take every year with the family that he's

736
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: not allowed to see for some reason, and this is

737
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: like the one time of the year that he's.

738
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: Allowed, Like, is that the case.

739
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: If that's the case, then I feel like that might

740
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: be able to be explained in a very nice way

741
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: if you're nice to the person that you're trying to

742
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: get days off from.

743
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Speaker 3: But clearly that's not the way she went.

744
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm so freaking mad because they deleted their account and

745
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: there's there's no more, no more.

746
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: She honestly probably just wanted to like go vacation herself

747
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: and it probably does something separate with her kid.

748
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could, I could see that.

749
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, Right, that's the end of the story.

750
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: We've got another one come in right up.

751
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: I think my new coworkers have it out for me.

752
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: Well, they might.

753
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: I joined this business early last year and was so

754
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: happy because it was my first big job. I had

755
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: come from working part time on benefits due to severe

756
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: health issues, and finally I was able to get off

757
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: benefits as my workplace is super considerate and flexible like that.

758
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Interesting Drafts sixty five

759
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Speaker 2: And if you want to spit your own stories, who

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Speaker 2: are the rsash Okay stories? I'm subbered where this story

761
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Speaker 2: is from.

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Speaker 4: What?

763
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Speaker 2: No, it's one of our own but and we're here

764
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: to give good advice. Goofily, but we don't know much.

765
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: Whatever you know, put it into atomized lists down below

766
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Speaker 2: in the comments and I will read those in bullet

767
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Speaker 2: point form. Please sure, Opie says, I'm super keen on

768
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: progressing and I am passionate about what I do and

769
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Speaker 2: know where I want ahead. I have had unfortunate situations

770
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: throughout my life. I've struggled with my mental health and

771
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: now I'm in a really good place in my life.

772
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 2: So story time, any projects, I say yes. I'm quick

773
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: to help everyone, to the point of my managers having

774
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: to tell me to have time off because I'm working

775
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: too hard and don't take leave. I'm known to be

776
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: the first person to help and do things and be

777
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: super nice. But this is where the problem started. When

778
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: I first started, it was not fun at all. My

779
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: first week I had to be trained and a colleague

780
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: was call her. Claire wouldn't train me. One day she

781
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: blew up on me at the office. Most people work

782
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: from home, so there was just me and Claire. This

783
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: was number one no witnesses, and I had to raise

784
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: it with management. It went nowhere anyway. I continued working

785
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: and within a year I had already been promoted and

786
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people started to know who I was.

787
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: I love getting to know people and understanding what others

788
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: do in their roles. It helps me explain to staff

789
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: when things aren't quite going right, or to decrease tensions

790
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: between departments. Yeah, that's like my uncle. I worked with him,

791
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: he used to work for UPS. He's like, don't do

792
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: this in your job.

793
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: Don't be television Like all I do is host? Yeah,

794
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 5: all I do is commentate. It's like no, no, no, Yeah,

795
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 5: what do the editors need for me? What does you

796
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Speaker 5: know operations need for me? What can what can I

797
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 5: do best to help people out?

798
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Speaker 3: Where do I want to be in the future?

799
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and you put yourselves to become legit undisposable

800
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: because you know so much information in the company and

801
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: you know how to help out. Yeah, and that's what

802
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: I've done here.

803
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

804
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great and it's a you know, good advice. Yeah,

805
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: it helps you a lot, and it sounds like this

806
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: is what you've done Opanuary. I had to have a

807
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: discussion about moving offices because I had ended my five

808
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: year relationship. It had gotten really toxic. I couldn't wear

809
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: what I wanted to do the office, and I could

810
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: not go on work nights out.

811
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

812
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is getting tough.

813
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: It cannot go out on work.

814
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to talk to people. It was really bad.

815
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: I know how that feels.

816
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're not like that.

817
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: Sometimes in the office. I don't know who said I

818
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: was lying about moving, so I didn't have to go

819
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: in and raise to complain against me. Ridiculous, I know.

820
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: And it went no further because it was stupid. Two

821
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: months ago, Jamie micro managed me to the point I

822
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: got someone to speak to this person because I couldn't

823
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Speaker 2: do a thing right. It was causing me so much

824
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: stress and I didn't want to work. Now the big

825
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: ones welread he got like two instances. Yeah that seem

826
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Speaker 2: or four. I don't know, how did you count?

827
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Speaker 3: I wasn't counting.

828
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: There was so many, yeah, yeah, just so many little

829
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: things enough to.

830
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Speaker 3: Create a hostile work environment.

831
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Speaker 4: I mean even just that one when they were the

832
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 4: only ones in the office and she like flew up

833
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 4: at you.

834
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what is that about?

835
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: Weird?

836
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: We need to start recording things.

837
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: As much as I've wanted to yell at certain people here,

838
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: just don't do it well, Like you know, it's like

839
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: not like yelling at them because like they're bad. It's

840
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, the computer. Oh yeah, right right,

841
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: and it's like it's like just a thing.

842
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 4: Even if you're like yelling at technical issues, it still

843
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 4: creates kind of an uncomfortable work environment.

844
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

845
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 4: No one wants to be around yelling, even though they

846
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: even if it's not at them, you know.

847
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: It's hard not to.

848
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, some days, some days sometimes we do.

849
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Speaker 2: I had a complaint raised against me three days ago

850
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: for bullying in the workplace where you're the bully. Susan

851
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: told management that I said she couldn't do her job,

852
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: that she didn't know how to manage her team, and

853
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: other stuff that hasn't been disclosed to me. The situation

854
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: a member of her team breached data due to an

855
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: error from another employee. I'd like this was Susan, and

856
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: Susan asked for a call. We called and I explained

857
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: what had happened and how I had supported the team member.

858
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: Susan was super happy with outcome. Susan then advised me

859
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: that this person had no support and had spent the

860
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: last three months on her own as she started later

861
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: than the new group and was in the office alone.

862
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: Then I spoke to a few people about how we

863
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: could provide her better in person support as her confidence

864
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: had lowered due to the data issue and other issues

865
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Speaker 2: that occurred. On the same day, I had messaged Susan

866
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: and I said I had an idea. We called again

867
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Speaker 2: and I said I'd be happy to go in on

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Speaker 2: the days the tim member was in since I'm based

869
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: in the office she was in and everyone else in

870
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Speaker 2: the other office, which is three hours away. I said,

871
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 2: I don't want someone to be away from the team

872
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: while you're learning and building confidence. The call was good,

873
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: So it sounds like you're brainstorming and bringing good ideas.

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00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're trying to problem solve this problem. Yeah, that

875
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: sounds great.

876
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: We were laughing about things happening at work and our

877
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: other plans for the weekend. It ended on a really

878
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: strong note. The next day, Susan wasn't in and then

879
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Tuesday this week, I got a call from my manager

880
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: tell me Susan had raised a complaint against my conduct.

881
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: I was baffled. A fake friend.

882
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: What she was a spy?

883
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: This is weird, mesh.

884
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: She was just a minion for Claire.

885
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: I was asked to provide all evidence I could regard

886
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: In the call. I sent screenshots from the conversations with

887
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: her colleagues and a message I had sent about calling

888
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: to provide support. I detailed what was disclosed and the outcome.

889
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: False accusations have a big impact on people, so I

890
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: even drafted a policy change to protect others from what

891
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: is happening with me. From there, I had nothing, no communication,

892
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: zero support, and just sting on this complaint. I have

893
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: been told not to speak to anyone at work about it.

894
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: Yet Susan is getting all the support and I'm just

895
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: sitting there wondering how this is going to impact me. Ah,

896
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm speechless.

897
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's frustrating.

898
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: You're doing everything right. Claire is the one who started

899
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: all of this.

900
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: Susan, you thought was on your side, and now you've

901
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 4: been sabotaged, betrayed.

902
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: John Here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story,

903
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: but a quick three minute of break of ads from

904
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: our sponsors.

905
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: My manager says it won't because there is not enough

906
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: evidence of the interaction. Will it still be on my record?

907
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: I spoke to a friend. How is it fair to

908
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: keep this all in and she gets to talk about it?

909
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: She attacked me as the person I am under false accusations.

910
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: The friend I spoke to said she has done it

911
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: because I'm a threat. No one has progressed as quickly

912
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: as me, apparently, even though I'm not sure how to

913
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: handle it, and I'm not sure what to do now.

914
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: Do I just keep away from her and communicate with

915
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: my manager if I need to speak to her. Do

916
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: I avoid all contact? I've been offered another role. Should

917
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: I take it? It removes me from the department, but

918
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 2: I love my job. I don't know what to do. Wow,

919
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let it ride for a little bit. Yeah,

920
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: and as a professional note in your young age, I

921
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: would just soak up as much information as you can.

922
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: Don't worry about getting as much money. Wherever puts you

923
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: in a exponentially learning environment. Yeah, stay there, because as

924
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: soon as you hit you know, your thirties, you can

925
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: then transition to making money off of all the things

926
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 2: you've learned.

927
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: Totally. Yeah, you might really just need to keep your

928
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: head down for a bit. And then if if you get.

929
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: A chance to where something else happens and it's like

930
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: you can actually say something or you have it, you

931
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: have proof of your conversation or.

932
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Something, then maybe you can bring it up again.

933
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: And this sabotage may maybe even when you think you're

934
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: talking to a friend, you'll have to record your conversation.

935
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 4: I think some of this happened via email or text

936
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: or something, so like, I'm sure you could screenshot something.

937
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I don't know. She got a little bit

938
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: of evidence, but not a lot. Yeah, yesterday people were

939
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: talking about how great it is to work here and

940
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: how everyone gets along with everyone. Why am I the

941
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: only one facing these issues? I did think maybe I'm

942
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: doing something wrong. A few people have said people feel

943
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: threatened by nice people because they think people can't be

944
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: as nice as me. The fact is that's just naturally

945
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: how I am. I naturally care about everyone, So I

946
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: guess it's good to know people see me as a

947
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: nice and caring person. I would love to give you

948
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: my thoughts about who you are personally so we can

949
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this. Yeah, but sadly you're

950
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: not here for me to do, so.

951
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 3: I don't know you personally.

952
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: Because you can you can kind of get a vibe

953
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: of someone and who they are by just meeting them

954
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: over texts a little hard, but yeah, you can get

955
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: a vibe of who someone is. It just sounds like

956
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: you're doing a great job and people just feel threatened.

957
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really want to know, like what field of

958
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 4: work you're in, Yeah, because if it's like a high stressed,

959
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 4: high competitive work environment, like I could I could see

960
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: that happening where people like this are kind of like

961
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: on edge by everyone, Like oh, if you're new and

962
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: you're already so good, like I gotta watch out for you.

963
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: Or if you're being nice, Oh my gosh, you probably

964
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: mean that in some sort of passive aggressive way, because

965
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: no one here is that nice, you know, like if

966
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 4: they're used to a bunch of like really honest people

967
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: or something, and like blunt, harsh.

968
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: I really wonder that would just explain some things.

969
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: I've asked if we can have a meeting including my

970
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: manager and a manager, so I can make any reasonable

971
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: adjustments on how we communicate so she doesn't feel attacked.

972
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 2: Although I know one hundred percent that what I said

973
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: couldn't have any implications to affect her. I never even

974
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: mentioned her. I just said solely my idea to provide

975
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: additional support to the team member, which as a manager

976
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: is acceptable to do. It could in no way be misconstructed.

977
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: I have no support. I'm on my own on this one.

978
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: Why do people keep having a problem with me? What

979
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: should I do? I'm worried this will impact me trying

980
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: to progress, And as Taylor Swift says, take it off

981
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: and hatero's gonna hate?

982
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I did not know where you were going with that.

983
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's so many lines that you could use.

984
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: She's a wonder of many hits. I don't know. I

985
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna, you know, upset you your progression.

986
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: You got offered another role.

987
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just in the people that you meet,

988
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 4: just try to be nice to them, try to open communication.

989
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: If they think there's some sort of problem if they

990
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: think you insulted them somehow and just.

991
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: Kind of keep your head down. There's at a certain point.

992
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it sucks because it's in your literal workplace,

993
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 4: but at a certain point there's kind of not really

994
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: anything that you can do.

995
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: If your coworkers just don't like you. Just make sure

996
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: you know that your boss is chill with you.

997
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: That's just so so snake of Susan.

998
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Do that, y slipper a little snake?

999
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 2: Okay, man, Yeah, I could play those guys that I wanted,

1000
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: but it just it doesn't get you anywhere. This will

1001
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: not impact Susan at all. Yeah, the truth will be found, right,

1002
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: guys that seen in this episode, I love you. If

1003
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,719
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1004
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Speaker 2: and see you tomorrow.